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10ywslw | j80lp37 | 0 | 1,676,047,915 | CMV: The use of beans as dessert is the most challenging ubiquitous East and South East Asia cuisine for Western audiences | Beans and legumes in dessert is a common ingredient in East and South East Asian cuisine. For example, [Red bean paste](https://redhousespice.com/red-bean-paste/) is common in [Chinese](https://www.chinasichuanfood.com/homemade-red-bean-buns/) and [Japanese](https://cookingwithdog.com/recipe/mushi-manju/) steamed buns.... | ["Have to disagree. To a point it is true that it's an odd use from the westerners perspective, but it's not something that's hard to find, and if my personal experience counts for anything, people react positively when they try it. There's bubble tea stores that serve it, there's snacks available in asian stores. You ... | [catchmelackin]: Have to disagree. To a point it is true that it's an odd use from the westerners perspective, but it's not something that's hard to find, and if my personal experience counts for anything, people react positively when they try it. There's bubble tea stores that serve it, there's snacks available in asi... | 4.762174 | 907 | unchanged |
1khnpds | mr8glxh | 0 | 1,746,703,594 | CMV: if a man does a women a favor she should have sex with him in return | Oh boy idk where to begin I’m probably gonna public enemy number 1 after this…. Well here goes nothing
Listen up men too many of you are getting screwed over you keep doing stuff for a women helping her move listening to all their problems, doing the hardest work and yet that same women will go fuck the guy that ain... | ["I've seen at least two counterarguments to your post.\n\n1. I understand that we live in times saturated with pornography, which is why sex is less and less often associated with intimacy. However, reducing sex to payment for a favor is nothing more than a form of prostitution.\n\n2. Would you be willing to consider ... | [sh00l33]: I've seen at least two counterarguments to your post.
1. I understand that we live in times saturated with pornography, which is why sex is less and less often associated with intimacy. However, reducing sex to payment for a favor is nothing more than a form of prostitution.
2. Would you be willing to cons... | 4.882802 | 1 | unchanged |
1f0aj6r | ljqtzdk | 0 | 1,724,520,014 | CMV: In the "would you rather fight 100 duck-sized horses or one horse-sized duck" question, picking one horse-sized duck is a strikingly stupid choice | I know I'm like 8 years late on this meme, but I feel like it faded away without reaching much of a consensus and it made me feel like an insane person because the answer seemed so incredibly obvious. So here I am dredging it up again, like an insane person. First, some priors about the hypothetical I'm addressing:
*... | ["Okay, let’s have a crack at this. Fundamentally I agree with you, but I think there’s a counterpoint. \n\n\nYou’re trying to kill each other, but you can simply run away from the duck until it starves to death, there is no way it will be able to graze enough to survive. Ducks are terrible at walking, and would be eas... | [ride_whenever]: Okay, let’s have a crack at this. Fundamentally I agree with you, but I think there’s a counterpoint.
You’re trying to kill each other, but you can simply run away from the duck until it starves to death, there is no way it will be able to graze enough to survive. Ducks are terrible at walking, and ... | 4.969813 | 630 | unchanged |
1ey1qpg | ljaxqr9 | 0 | 1,724,276,130 | CMV: It is not repetitive to say ‘Chai Tea’ | Chai might be the word for 'Tea'in some languages; however 'Chai Tea' refers to a specific type of tea when used in English, at least in the US. The same goes for Na'an Bread and Queso Cheese. You don't sound clever ignoring this simantic fact. You just sound as cloying ignorant as an obnoxious teacher who responds to ... | ["Im sure someone in the comments has already said this, but you could say 'marsala chai' and be more accurate and understood. Im not pedantic about this sort of stuff though, 'chai tea' is fine if your in a western country, but in india you could end up with plain black tea unless you say marsala chai"] | [LikesTrees]: Im sure someone in the comments has already said this, but you could say 'marsala chai' and be more accurate and understood. Im not pedantic about this sort of stuff though, 'chai tea' is fine if your in a western country, but in india you could end up with plain black tea unless you say marsala chai | 4.060443 | 94 | unchanged |
1ewaz4x | lixbrwe | 0 | 1,724,096,333 | cmv: Professional sports should stop having teens involved | This is not for all sports. But I’ve noticed in the olympics and other sports like the X games,ANW, etc. that children (in their teens)are competing professionally. I am all for kids playing sports but to put them position this early feels like we’re pushing a lot on them to succeed. Some adult athletes can’t even take... | ["Lebron James at 16 was easily good enough to play in the league. Even at that age he had to deal with all the hype that surrounded him. Never before was ESPN following around a HS team like that. If he was able to go pro he would have been able to start collecting cash and building himself up. Instead he had to wait.... | [Thorlolita]: Lebron James at 16 was easily good enough to play in the league. Even at that age he had to deal with all the hype that surrounded him. Never before was ESPN following around a HS team like that. If he was able to go pro he would have been able to start collecting cash and building himself up. Instead he ... | 4.934474 | 1 | unchanged |
kw54rr | gj2cay7 | 0 | 1,610,499,026 | CMV: Strawberries and apples always taste worse when cooked versus fresh | Over the years I have tried various ways to change strawberries and apples when cooking/baking and have found these fruits to be most enjoyable when they are fresh. From making pies to jams and dehydration, nothing has come close to the delicious flavor of fresh strawberries and apples. I find that the changes in text... | ["Some people don't have the ability to taste, so in their situation, neither would be worse than the other."] | [SOFDoctor]: Some people don't have the ability to taste, so in their situation, neither would be worse than the other. | 2.995732 | 22 | unchanged |
p2w05b | h8oqt5y | 0 | 1,628,758,660 | CMV: Punishing a child for swearing is a stupid and outdated thing to do. | NOTE: I’m not including slurs, as those are tied to trauma and are a completely different league from “Fuck”, “Shit”, “Ass”, etc as they were made to demean certain demographics.
Edit: Perhaps the better title might be “The current social standards regarding swearing need a serious overhaul, as currently they’re only ... | ["Challenging \"your right\" to say fuck and other curse words is almost a rite of passage.\n\nAnd look, we already have your bias to look at.\n>NOTE: I’m not including slurs, as those are tied to trauma and are a completely different league from “Fuck”, “Shit”, “Ass”, etc as they were made to demean certain demogra... | [usernametaken0987]: Challenging "your right" to say fuck and other curse words is almost a rite of passage.
And look, we already have your bias to look at.
>NOTE: I’m not including slurs, as those are tied to trauma and are a completely different league from “Fuck”, “Shit”, “Ass”, etc as they were made to demean c... | 5.659482 | 347 | unchanged |
6lj2wf | dju98fl | 0 | 1,499,310,845 | CMV: Cannabis has no negative impacts in any area of life. | I personally don’t see that cannabis has any negative impacts. I don’t use it but because of the fact my parents and society often says that using it can effect you negatively but I personally don’t see any negative impacts. Although i’ll be honest, a lot of the people in my life who have used it have not been successf... | ["Heavy marijuana use over a prolonged period of time [will adversely effect your short term memory](https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/01/what-happens-when-you-get-stoned-every-single-day-for-five-years/). It be wrong though if I didn't also note that studies have shown moderate usage can pre... | [kublahkoala]: Heavy marijuana use over a prolonged period of time [will adversely effect your short term memory](https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/01/what-happens-when-you-get-stoned-every-single-day-for-five-years/). It be wrong though if I didn't also note that studies have shown moderate ... | 4.736198 | 3 | unchanged |
l1q9bi | gk0y3ie | 0 | 1,611,200,740 | CMV: Student loan debt shouldn’t be completely forgiven. | Yes, I do admittedly fall into the category of “I’m paying off my debt, others should be too”
However - I support a minimum wage increase. I think that the majority of people should be making $20 an hour. This includes all non-college-educated people.
I also believe that teachers, first responders, etc. should be ma... | ["\"why should an unemployed film major get their debt paid while a doctor who worked twice as hard but liked it half as much have to pay it off?\"\n\nOne very good reason for this is that an unemployed film major (say) *can't* pay off their debt, whereas a doctor can. \n\nWhat you're asking here is akin to the questio... | [LandOfGreyAndPink]: "why should an unemployed film major get their debt paid while a doctor who worked twice as hard but liked it half as much have to pay it off?"
One very good reason for this is that an unemployed film major (say) *can't* pay off their debt, whereas a doctor can.
What you're asking here is akin t... | 4.304065 | 2 | unchanged |
8lv1td | dzj354u | 0 | 1,527,187,326 | CMV: If NFL players were kneeling for veterans, it would be a non-issue. It's not the kneeling that has so many upset, it's the cause. | The act of kneeling is typically viewed as a humble show of respect. People kneel in prayer, athletes kneel when a player is injured on the field, service members kneel before graves of fallen soldiers, etc. In fact, it was the later that convinced Colin Kaepernick to kneel in protest after a conversation with a vetera... | ["I am someone who is against the kneeling. \n\nI agree with you, it is not the kneeling, it’s the cause/ statement. Also as a veteran, if they knelt during the anthem my other vet friends and I would look at each other and say “I mean just stand and put your hand over your heart.”\n\nThis issue also gets conflated bec... | [AlanDSchaefer]: I am someone who is against the kneeling.
I agree with you, it is not the kneeling, it’s the cause/ statement. Also as a veteran, if they knelt during the anthem my other vet friends and I would look at each other and say “I mean just stand and put your hand over your heart.”
This issue also gets co... | 4.795791 | 4,547 | unchanged |
181bp6m | kacc2t5 | 0 | 1,700,666,948 | cmv:20’s are a very tough period of life and not the “best years of your life” | All my life I’ve been told that 20’s are one of the happiest years of your life and your “peak” and your “prime” and so on and so forth…
20’s are actually SO stressful?
Nothing is figured out, you don’t know who you are, what you want, what will be in the future…
I was the most outgoing extroverted person and as soon a... | ["I'm feeling this so hard rn, like finishing my degree finding a job in this dogshit market, trying to buy a house in this dogshit market, trying to buy a car in this...you get the idea. These are like the setup years of our life and it feels so stressful knowing you could stumble any moment and feel the effects years... | [8a19]: I'm feeling this so hard rn, like finishing my degree finding a job in this dogshit market, trying to buy a house in this dogshit market, trying to buy a car in this...you get the idea. These are like the setup years of our life and it feels so stressful knowing you could stumble any moment and feel the effects... | 4.158883 | 250 | unchanged |
g9kaoc | fotx3vy | 0 | 1,588,066,944 | CMV: People are too dumb to self-govern and anyone who claims that they know what is best for them is delusional | I believe that people (me included) are too dumb to decide what is right for them, how their taxes should be spent or what decisions government should make.
Now I make distinction between value-based decisions and fact-based ones. Question is chocolate or strawberry ice cream better is value-based and about personal p... | ["I think you fundamentally misunderstand what the case for self-governance is. The average person isn't claiming to be an expert, they simply understand that intelligence is no guarantee of having other people's best interests in mind. If politics is determined by an unelected political class of experts, then you've c... | [Glory2Hypnotoad]: I think you fundamentally misunderstand what the case for self-governance is. The average person isn't claiming to be an expert, they simply understand that intelligence is no guarantee of having other people's best interests in mind. If politics is determined by an unelected political class of exper... | 4.248495 | 0 | unchanged |
1i5zlr2 | m881vtn | 0 | 1,737,403,599 | CMV: The reaction to the TikTok ban shows why TikTok needs to be banned | I was ambivalent about the whole thing until I saw the hysterics on reddit following the ban. It was absolutely fucking insane. People considering killing themselves. Saying they feel lost and cut off from the world and society. That they don't know where they'll get their news or information now, and complaining that ... | ["Don't use social media and I think it does a lot more damage than benefiting society.\n\nHowever, I do believe in free speech in the public forum.\n\nI wouldn't (within reasonable limits) ban any of the social media sites.\n\nI mean you say this about TikTok, why not Facebook and IG?"] | [Old-Tiger-4971]: Don't use social media and I think it does a lot more damage than benefiting society.
However, I do believe in free speech in the public forum.
I wouldn't (within reasonable limits) ban any of the social media sites.
I mean you say this about TikTok, why not Facebook and IG? | 3.951244 | 387 | unchanged |
56vh2o | d8msi99 | 0 | 1,476,147,162 | CMV: It is perfectly reasonable for poor people, even homeless people, to have smart phones and it doesn't mean that they are making poor choices about money. | I so often hear people complain about poor people's smartphones as if that somehow means that they deserve to be poor or are keeping themselves in poverty. Yes, some phones and plans can be exorbitant, but a quality used smartphone can be gotten for about $40 on ebay and minimal service plans are not that expensive. ... | ["> but that people should not assume that someone having or using a smartphone means that they are spending lavishly or unwisely.\n\nA generic Android smartphone? No, they are probably not spending lavishly. The newest iPhone on the other hand? There is excessive spending no matter what. Even if they got it \"free\... | [InternetUser007]: > but that people should not assume that someone having or using a smartphone means that they are spending lavishly or unwisely.
A generic Android smartphone? No, they are probably not spending lavishly. The newest iPhone on the other hand? There is excessive spending no matter what. Even if they... | 4.727388 | 518 | unchanged |
dy7ofz | f7z2jbx | 0 | 1,574,103,916 | CMV: You can't ban vaping without banning cigarettes too. | Vaping is new (\~10 years old) and when using the legally acquired (lab made) liquid/cartridges, has proven to have some health effects, but fairly limited. Understandably, the research can only be as old as the tech, but I feel \~10 years is a decent amount of time to determine health affects. Most of the news headl... | ["You shouldn’t look for logic when it comes to banning stuff.\n\nBottom line... they **can** ban vaping without banning cigarettes. End of discussion. \n\nIs it hypocritical? Absolutely! Does it make sense to ban something that is inherently more dangerous? Yeah! \n\nYour point is?\n\nYour view should be something alo... | [Joosie-Smollet]: You shouldn’t look for logic when it comes to banning stuff.
Bottom line... they **can** ban vaping without banning cigarettes. End of discussion.
Is it hypocritical? Absolutely! Does it make sense to ban something that is inherently more dangerous? Yeah!
Your point is?
Your view should be somet... | 4.406719 | 90 | unchanged |
11djhdz | jab1i80 | 0 | 1,677,523,834 | CMV: Americans who work in the military are not admirable or heroes | I am not an American, so when I visited the US I was pretty surprised to find out the general attitude towards veterans and soldiers.
Special discounts and services at certain businesses, people respecting them more than the average person and even here on Reddit when someone says they are a veteran sometimes the comm... | ["A big part of the answer is simply social and political virtue signaling. Supporting the militarily loudly and with special perks and discounts equates you to being the most patriotic of patriots. It started out as mostly a right wing thing but it’s pretty much bipartisan at this point. The right is currently doing t... | [ArterialVotives]: A big part of the answer is simply social and political virtue signaling. Supporting the militarily loudly and with special perks and discounts equates you to being the most patriotic of patriots. It started out as mostly a right wing thing but it’s pretty much bipartisan at this point. The right is ... | 5.961005 | 787 | unchanged |
2had69 | ckqv0pe | 0 | 1,411,522,423 | CMV:Without first redefining marriage, the claim that same-sex marriage bans are discriminatory doesn't hold water | So not to get hung up on technicalities, but people cite the equal protection clause of the constitution as a basis for the claim of discrimination inherent in same-sex marriage bans. (Personally I don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all). But, semantically (if that is the right word to use) ma... | ["The definition *is* the discriminatory part of the law. Just because it's written down (and clearly understood, applied equally, etc...), doesn't mean that it is nondiscriminatory."] | [ulyssessword]: The definition *is* the discriminatory part of the law. Just because it's written down (and clearly understood, applied equally, etc...), doesn't mean that it is nondiscriminatory.
[gradstudent17]: Granted. Does the natural order of procreation have a place in the definition? It does seem that's the a... | 3.295837 | 0 | unchanged |
egwkqg | fcago5a | 0 | 1,577,568,652 | CMV: We should have open borders. | Almost nobody seems to like the idea of open borders— Republicans claim Democrats do, but no Democratic candidate actually has that as their policy platform. And Republicans themselves are obsessed with “border control” and making it more difficult for people to immigrate.
I think open borders is a fine idea and if a... | ["Are you arguing in favour of abolishing the concept of citizenship?\n\nAlso, which country in the world has open borders?", "So you'd be stepping into a vast unknown but want people to support it regardless?", "I'm confused. You want right wingers to support it but don't actually want it to happen?", "Just so we're ... | [JohnReese20]: Are you arguing in favour of abolishing the concept of citizenship?
Also, which country in the world has open borders?
[chanseyfam]: 1. Yes.
2. None of course.
[JohnReese20]: So you'd be stepping into a vast unknown but want people to support it regardless?
[chanseyfam]: Just a hypothetical. Obviou... | 3.044522 | 0 | unchanged |
14e47si | jot7ll7 | 1 | 1,687,246,183 | CMV: Decentralized anarchy would be better compared to career politicians entrenched in power in a elected goverment. | Okay, we know that most societies have a centralized elected government. The problem with such a government is that sooner or later, they tend to entrench themselves and become de-facto dictators or fall into infighting amongst political parties.
I think we should decentralize our political systems with not one govern... | [">I think we should decentralize our political systems with not one government in power for all districts in a single country and all districts have all responsibility for governments\n\nWhat would be the point of sharing a country anymore? If pretty much every city functions as an autonomous government, then there's ... | [Love_Shaq_Baby]: >I think we should decentralize our political systems with not one government in power for all districts in a single country and all districts have all responsibility for governments
What would be the point of sharing a country anymore? If pretty much every city functions as an autonomous government,... | 5.913503 | 1 | changed |
i64v43 | g0tesc9 | 0 | 1,596,913,873 | CMV:There should be a distinction between a game and a sport. | This is not meant to demean any activity, or fans of the activity. It is meant more to define the basis and ruleset. Distinctions should be as follows:
A sport should be defined as an activity(both individual and team) where parties work to best one another and can impede the other party, and effect them directly IE a... | ["So Chess and video games are a sport?"] | [puja_puja]: So Chess and video games are a sport? | 2.197225 | 3 | unchanged |
1s344f | cdtic1n | 0 | 1,386,174,399 | I think Bitcoins will never be a widespread consumer currency that rivals traditional money. CMV | Reasons why Bitcoins will never be a widespread consumer currency that rivals traditional money:
1. **Institutional Theft**: Hackers have [already stolen](http://www.informationweek.com/security/attacks-and-breaches/bitcoin-thefts-surge-ddos-hackers-take-millions/d/d-id/1112831) millions of dollars worth of bitcoins f... | ["1. Institutional Theft -- you mean totally unlike [JP Morgan](https://www.google.com/search?q=jpmorgan+scandal), [HSCB](https://www.google.com/search?q=hcbs+scandal) or [Co-op Bank](https://www.google.com/search?q=co-op+bank+scandal)? Can I have some of what you're smoking?\n2. & 3. Both are perfectly tractable w... | [mathrick]: 1. Institutional Theft -- you mean totally unlike [JP Morgan](https://www.google.com/search?q=jpmorgan+scandal), [HSCB](https://www.google.com/search?q=hcbs+scandal) or [Co-op Bank](https://www.google.com/search?q=co-op+bank+scandal)? Can I have some of what you're smoking?
2. & 3. Both are perfectly tr... | 5.164786 | 330 | unchanged |
16zmklx | k3fne6h | 0 | 1,696,424,297 | CMV: the way that conservatives have got in line behind Trump shows that they never really believed in anything in the first place, apart from belonging to a tribe and beating the other tribe. | As things stand, Trump has already been chosen as a presidential candidate once and is massively in the lead to be chosen again. Yet he seems to go against traditional conservative values in so many respects.
* Family values: he's a known adulterer, "grab 'em by the pussy" etc.
* Religion: clownishly ignorant about t... | ["*The way that leftists have got in line behind Biden shows that they never really believed in anything in the first place, apart from belonging to a tribe and beating the other tribe.*\n\nFamily values: He's a known nepotist. Using his political connections to help out his son. \nManagerial competence: Cannot speak ... | [felidaekamiguru]: *The way that leftists have got in line behind Biden shows that they never really believed in anything in the first place, apart from belonging to a tribe and beating the other tribe.*
Family values: He's a known nepotist. Using his political connections to help out his son.
Managerial competence:... | 5.117994 | 1 | unchanged |
1i2ubf | cb0k46b | 0 | 1,373,549,758 | I believe too many people are going to college nowadays, and the idea that everyone should go to college is preposterous and bad for society, CMV | **Point 1: Too many people are going to college**
I should start this off my saying that I lived in a town in which most (i'd say at least 90% of all students) went to college after high school, whether it be community college or a liberal arts college or university.
The dumbest of the dumb in my high school class, k... | ["\"I believe too many people are going to high school nowadays, and the idea that everyone should go to high school is preposterous and bad for society, CMV\" <---- If you rewind to the early-mid 1900s, this would have been a plausible argument to make too.\n\nIf we were to actually get to the point that the major... | [downvote__please]: "I believe too many people are going to high school nowadays, and the idea that everyone should go to high school is preposterous and bad for society, CMV" <---- If you rewind to the early-mid 1900s, this would have been a plausible argument to make too.
If we were to actually get to the point ... | 4.905275 | 388 | unchanged |
2pd63l | cmvkrbj | 0 | 1,418,657,350 | CMV: That pre-orders and season passes are leading to poorer quality games | Recently there have been numerous games that have been full of bugs, poor stories and have been overly hyped before release (2 publishers come to mind). I believe that it is the modern gamer's pre-ordering based on trailers and "believing the hype" that has led to this. The developers, in my opinion, have taken advanta... | ["Let me make sure I understand your position:\n\n1. Publishers should not hype games prior to their release.\n2. Gamers should not buy games on the day that they are released.\n3. If more of #2 occurred, then less of #1 would occur.\n4. This would result in publishers spending more time to polish games for release.\n\... | [skacey]: Let me make sure I understand your position:
1. Publishers should not hype games prior to their release.
2. Gamers should not buy games on the day that they are released.
3. If more of #2 occurred, then less of #1 would occur.
4. This would result in publishers spending more time to polish games for release.... | 4.624973 | 81 | unchanged |
4sevox | d58r6pz | 0 | 1,468,292,452 | CMV: Beginning a Reddit post with "______ here" is an appeal to authority | Often people begin a comment or post with _____ here. Where the blank is a credential, profession or other position of authority or knowledge. I believe this is an appeal to authority (roughly) and only serves to stroke the ego of the poster.
Good ideas/arguments/comments should stand on their own. In the case of fac... | ["An appeal to authority isn't always a fallacy. \n\nIf our topic was brain surgery would you value the opinion of a trained neurosurgeon or someone who shovels manure. \n\nWould you want to get your vaccination advice from a doctor or from Jenny McCarthy?\n\nYou can't really have a conversation on this topic and then ... | [forestfly1234]: An appeal to authority isn't always a fallacy.
If our topic was brain surgery would you value the opinion of a trained neurosurgeon or someone who shovels manure.
Would you want to get your vaccination advice from a doctor or from Jenny McCarthy?
You can't really have a conversation on this topic ... | 5.056246 | 6 | unchanged |
1imq4oe | mc553ur | 0 | 1,739,247,310 | CMV: The fact that so many view the American flag as a symbol of the right is a failure of the left. | I have heard many American young people on the left say that they view the American flag as a symbol of hate and oppression. Ive heard them say that they would never publicly display an American flag. I would even admit that if I see a group of people flying American flags, I automatically assume they must be republica... | ["Performative patriotism has always been an authoritarian hallmark. The pledge of allegiance is a perfect example. Students, required to stand and recite a promise that they're allied and loyal to the State, before they're truly old enough to understand whether or not that's a good thing.\n\nI encourage you to not get... | [Talik1978]: Performative patriotism has always been an authoritarian hallmark. The pledge of allegiance is a perfect example. Students, required to stand and recite a promise that they're allied and loyal to the State, before they're truly old enough to understand whether or not that's a good thing.
I encourage you t... | 5.673323 | 3,360 | unchanged |
2wo796 | cosy6uz | 0 | 1,424,540,114 | CMV: Muslim here. Change my view on why cohabitation is NOT immoral. | Hello there. Excuse my bad grammar, English is not my native language.
Anyways, I am a Muslim (although not very religious) and I am from Bangladesh. Its a *very conservative* Islamic country compared to much of the world. Cohabitation is seriously frowned upon and may even result in extrajudicial killing (with varyi... | ["So when it comes to relationships, there are lots of different levels of relationship to consider.\n\nOnce upon a time, the number of people around to marry was pretty limited. You and your entire villiage of like 10 guys currently looking for partner has like 10 girls to pick from. And if you don't pick one that is ... | [Oneofuswantstolearn]: So when it comes to relationships, there are lots of different levels of relationship to consider.
Once upon a time, the number of people around to marry was pretty limited. You and your entire villiage of like 10 guys currently looking for partner has like 10 girls to pick from. And if you don'... | 6.167516 | 734 | unchanged |
1hdrjcc | m1z1atu | 0 | 1,734,138,979 | CMV: Friends with benefits almost never works out in the long term | I’m against the idea of friends with benefits, which seems to be fairly common in the US. My main argument is that, in the long run, most people (I’d guess 99%) wouldn’t be comfortable with their partner being friends or hanging out with someone they were previously sexually active with.
Sex often leads to feelings be... | ["My friend who had a friend with benefits is now getting married to them. How long are we talking for long term?"] | [The_Confirminator]: My friend who had a friend with benefits is now getting married to them. How long are we talking for long term? | 3.135494 | 35 | unchanged |
wpzja3 | ikkl0q0 | 0 | 1,660,669,254 | CMV: All guns sold in the US should be hot pink | Pink is invisible to most game, just like orange.A pink gun would be easier to see for everyone involved.It might deter some people from buying guns.It would be completely legal within all interpretations I can find of the 2nd amendment.
Not picking pink because of the relationship with feminine traits. It is a bright... | ["Oh man, if only there was paint!", "If only the crimes committed with them weren’t crime!"] | [S00thsayerSays]: Oh man, if only there was paint!
[PuckSR]: Part of my idea is that painting guns is a crime
[S00thsayerSays]: If only the crimes committed with them weren’t crime! | 2.079442 | 3,311 | unchanged |
18fx9zx | kcxf5ef | 0 | 1,702,309,010 | CMV: If switching the gender/race/any demographic group in a statement makes that statement sound bigoted, then it was bigoted in the first place. Always. | EDIT: I was wrong to use the word "sound" in the title. I meant to make it more understandable, but it detracts from my point. Let me rephrase: If switching the demographic group makes it bigoted, then it was bigoted before the switching too. I used "sound" because a lot of people can instinctively recognize some forms... | ["One aspect of your statement that's worth considering is the concept of \"punching down\" vs \"punching up.\" Either way we're talking about \"punching,\" which sounds mean, but it captures a difference that needs to be taken into account.\n\nIn a society with an underclass, and therefore a privileged class (überclas... | [GlamorousBunchberry]: One aspect of your statement that's worth considering is the concept of "punching down" vs "punching up." Either way we're talking about "punching," which sounds mean, but it captures a difference that needs to be taken into account.
In a society with an underclass, and therefore a privileged cl... | 5.587249 | 1,740 | unchanged |
7dpoji | dpzm48v | 0 | 1,510,968,994 | CMV:Mods ruin a games design and stops you from fully enjoying the original product | I am of the opinion that a Video game designers vision for a game and more specifically how you experience and play that game are extremely important.
The inclusion of mods that even change minor details of the gameplay, commonly called "Quality of life mods", fractures the gameplay experience and will ruin the origi... | ["The developer added the ability to mod the game, therefor modding is in the developers vision as a form of art. What can the users do to modify the vision is part of the art IMO. \n\n&nbsp;\n\nFor games that do not allow modding I am in agreement with you. The Long Dark, as an example."] | [tolakram]: The developer added the ability to mod the game, therefor modding is in the developers vision as a form of art. What can the users do to modify the vision is part of the art IMO.
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For games that do not allow modding I am in agreement with you. The Long Dark, as an example. | 4.043051 | 0 | unchanged |
n9yxqj | gxriccg | 0 | 1,620,745,092 | CMV: Rice Krispies are a deceptive product | Rice Krispies (and generic "crisped rice" cereals) are deceptive in that they appear to be whole grains of rice that are crisped, but are actually rice flour that is formed into the shape of rice.
Why is this issue particular to Rice Krispies? Because other cereals generally do not mimic the shape of the grain. Corn... | ["By definition of what a deceptive product is, it isn’t since “rice cereal” just needs to be made of rice. The company obviously can’t be sued for deception, so this is just your personal opinion. I’m sorry you felt deceived.\n\nI can see some people assuming rice kripsies are just crisped rice, but that’s technically... | [th3empirial]: By definition of what a deceptive product is, it isn’t since “rice cereal” just needs to be made of rice. The company obviously can’t be sued for deception, so this is just your personal opinion. I’m sorry you felt deceived.
I can see some people assuming rice kripsies are just crisped rice, but that’s ... | 4.26268 | 13 | unchanged |
1d1ysnp | l5x88au | 0 | 1,716,835,684 | CMV: Cloning is perfectly ethical and we should allow research in cloning as a way for LGBTQ+ couples and people with infertility issues to have children |
Like the title said i think it would be **just as ethical as biological childbirth** to allow for willing individuals to clone themselves and raise that clone as their children.
Think about it, cloning would be much better than adoption or using sperm/egg donors, since the child would actually have your genes instea... | ["You still need a donated egg in order to clone. Might as well skip a step and just use that egg as-is, there are fewer ethical concerns too.", "Sperm donations are a heck of a lot cheaper and easier than cloning."] | [Various_Succotash_79]: You still need a donated egg in order to clone. Might as well skip a step and just use that egg as-is, there are fewer ethical concerns too.
[Lancer_lot_X]: What about lesbians though.
[Various_Succotash_79]: Sperm donations are a heck of a lot cheaper and easier than cloning. | 3.367296 | 1 | unchanged |
j70j9p | g81rfbx | 0 | 1,602,108,431 | CMV: White people who care about equity should be on the front lines of the BLM protests | I am a white woman who was raised in Hawaii and now lives in Georgia. I’ve been so fortunate to have been exposed to many different points of view. At this point I am more comfortable in spaces where no one looks like me. I don’t think I have faced the same discrimination of people assuming I’m a threat just by looking... | ["In my area, it’s mostly college students who are blocking traffic, protesting, etc. most of who are predominantly white and are from out of state, and probably don’t live in state for 60% of the year so naturally, it’s a sticky situation, and just not received with positivity by a lot of people."] | [Confused_Fangirl]: In my area, it’s mostly college students who are blocking traffic, protesting, etc. most of who are predominantly white and are from out of state, and probably don’t live in state for 60% of the year so naturally, it’s a sticky situation, and just not received with positivity by a lot of people. | 3.988984 | 0 | unchanged |
in94mk | g460s67 | 0 | 1,599,340,435 | CMV: You should have to live in an area for a certain amount of time before being allowed to vote for local issues. | In the US, the majority of the power is suppose to be in the states and cities hands even though it isn't anymore you should have to live there for at least a couple years before you can vote on their issues. If you move to the US, it takes so long to become a citizen anymore that it doesn't need to supply to the feder... | ["You just said that there are tons of cultures in the US and you are right.\n\nSame to be said on the local level... not as many but not just one. So how do you expect people to learn about all of them?\n\nDo you think people who have lived in the area their whole life are aware of the history & problems? \n\nWhat... | [Babou_FoxEarAHole]: You just said that there are tons of cultures in the US and you are right.
Same to be said on the local level... not as many but not just one. So how do you expect people to learn about all of them?
Do you think people who have lived in the area their whole life are aware of the history & pro... | 4.532599 | 7 | unchanged |
1hwxb87 | m64pu98 | 0 | 1,736,376,351 | CMV: Human limb regeneration, severed spinal cord regeneration and advanced regeneration of brain tissue will never be possible | I think the only way we could manage that in future will be either cybernetics or growing parts of tissue and try to fuse it together. But full regeneration when a person lost a limb or every debilitating trauma occurred? I don’t buy it. I think it goes against our biology sadly. I don’t see our selves having anything ... | ["My only argument is forever is a long time and The first powered flight and the first crewed mission to the moon were only separated by 66 years"] | [henningknows]: My only argument is forever is a long time and The first powered flight and the first crewed mission to the moon were only separated by 66 years | 3.367296 | 1 | unchanged |
k8e8v0 | gexj8qn | 0 | 1,607,337,146 | CMV: School bus traffic stop laws are too strict in the US, and cars should be allowed to slowly/safely pass a stopped school bus. | Whenever I browse the frontpage of reddit, I often find posts like [these](https://www.reddit.com/r/instantkarma/comments/k7wlk1/passing_a_school_bus/), showing cars passing a school bus, and the following fallout (police chases the offending car to hand out a $500+ fine, demerit points, etc.).
I can see why people wa... | ["I can't imagine anyone is bothered enough by stopping a minute for a school bus so often that it would be worth any more kids killed in traffic. Sometimes children who are mentally ill put themselves in dangerous situations. I guarantee US police generally do not have much better things to be doing, outside of certai... | [OrangeyUnicorn]: I can't imagine anyone is bothered enough by stopping a minute for a school bus so often that it would be worth any more kids killed in traffic. Sometimes children who are mentally ill put themselves in dangerous situations. I guarantee US police generally do not have much better things to be doing, o... | 4.110874 | 0 | unchanged |
16urx2j | k2nnite | 0 | 1,695,935,776 | CMV: Saying that "Full planets are unnecessary" in starfield is completely missing the point and just flat out wrong. | So, starfield has gained quite a bit of controversy with some people because of some of the systems in the game feeling... lackluster. the one im going to focus on here are planets.
now first of all, if you like starfield thats perfectly valid. i can see the appeal, and i can understand why to some people full planets... | ["Having seven procedurally generated miles on a planet is not interesting. I'm sorry but if you think the area for having seven things to see is interesting then you are a NPC."] | [Hemingwavy]: Having seven procedurally generated miles on a planet is not interesting. I'm sorry but if you think the area for having seven things to see is interesting then you are a NPC. | 3.496508 | 1 | unchanged |
e81yoh | fa939us | 0 | 1,575,850,558 | CMV: Having a kneejerk reaction to sex with / sexualization of minors leads to some people having logically flawed views | 1. The pedophile fallacy
I've been seeing increasingly often that people use pedophile as a catch all term to describe someone who is attracted to minors. This simply isn't true. The different chronophilic terms exist for the reason to discern the age group someone is attracted to. Sadly, it's not just that people use... | ["the border of 17 and 18 is admittedly arbitrary. but even if the cutoff point was 15/16 or literally anything else you'd still have the same concern. we need a static answer and it just happens to be 17/18.", "it only matters when the age crosses the minor line. i don't personally care if an 18 year old dates a 50 ye... | [spectrumtwelve]: the border of 17 and 18 is admittedly arbitrary. but even if the cutoff point was 15/16 or literally anything else you'd still have the same concern. we need a static answer and it just happens to be 17/18.
[BoredOfYou_]: And I agreed with that in my post, I was just addressing people who take ethica... | 3.688879 | 0 | unchanged |
aot1ig | eg3ha1u | 0 | 1,549,724,567 | CMV: Caution and concern for one’s safety should outweigh concerns about being discriminatory | I (a white male) have walked through lower-income neighborhoods that are populated most by minority groups and homeless people. Although I am walking during the day when there are other people relatively close by, I get nervous when I pass people on the streets, because the area is known to have higher crime. I will ad... | ["I’m just going to switch the words around.\n\nWhen I walk down the street and see a group of Asian people I takes steps to protect myself. While I’m perfectly aware the most Asían people aren’t martial artists there is a chance that this group of Asian people might be espically if their well dressed with tattoos, and... | [NetrunnerCardAccount]: I’m just going to switch the words around.
When I walk down the street and see a group of Asian people I takes steps to protect myself. While I’m perfectly aware the most Asían people aren’t martial artists there is a chance that this group of Asian people might be espically if their well dress... | 4.51086 | 16 | unchanged |
bjlv6r | em979l4 | 0 | 1,556,741,591 | CMV: Walmart pays their employees more fairly than Costco | In terms of an employee's actual value to a company, I have concluded that Walmart pays their employees more fairly than Costco. To start off, the calculations I use are somewhat assumptive and may not be paint the full picture; however, based off of my data, I hope you can see where I am coming from.
Net Income = (P... | ["I'm not following why you would divide net profit by employee wages. Profit is not necessarily a direct function of employees - if a company's leadership is aggressively expanding then they might not show a profit at all, but that doesn't mean the employees are not generating value.\n\nWhat do the numbers look like b... | [IlluminatusUIUC]: I'm not following why you would divide net profit by employee wages. Profit is not necessarily a direct function of employees - if a company's leadership is aggressively expanding then they might not show a profit at all, but that doesn't mean the employees are not generating value.
What do the numb... | 4.077537 | 0 | unchanged |
pqsr42 | hdelcmy | 0 | 1,631,993,116 | Cmv: People should stop getting mad when someone is being racist towards them. | Am probably going to get hate for this but this, and am african, to put it further am Nigerian.
This is probably going to also sound stupid but I will try my best put put the same thing I had in my mind.
And when I mean abused, I don't mean physically abused it's in terms of words.
Now it's not just black people... | ["It's fine to say that we shouldn't let other people's words get the better of us. No point risking an assault charge because an old man said something racist on a bus.\n\nBut it's also perfectly fine to feel upset when someone says something upsetting or hurtful. And in many cases (e.g., workplace, among friends) it ... | [KokonutMonkey]: It's fine to say that we shouldn't let other people's words get the better of us. No point risking an assault charge because an old man said something racist on a bus.
But it's also perfectly fine to feel upset when someone says something upsetting or hurtful. And in many cases (e.g., workplace, among... | 4.330733 | 0 | unchanged |
4scp9f | d58g8ub | 0 | 1,468,264,404 | CMV: I like America's two-party system, and prefer it to the parliamentary systems more common in Europe. | I know a lot of people dislike our two-party system, especially on Reddit, because they feel it forces everyone to vote for one of two sets of ideologies that very few people will fully agree with. They say it creates an endless series of elections between the lesser-of-two-evils, and makes it likely that people will v... | ["You are correct that the two-party system marginalizes the political fringe. Sometimes this may be good (such as with the Nazi and Communist parties), but fringe parties can be positive as well. Several European countries have strong green parties that fight for the environment, which doesn't happen in the US. The... | [cld8]: You are correct that the two-party system marginalizes the political fringe. Sometimes this may be good (such as with the Nazi and Communist parties), but fringe parties can be positive as well. Several European countries have strong green parties that fight for the environment, which doesn't happen in the US... | 4.060443 | 5 | unchanged |
puuabo | he5h9i1 | 0 | 1,632,523,438 | CMV: If cycling, running, swimming, skydiving or base jumping is totally moral, then driving without seat belt for special occasions is also totally moral | Base jumping: Odds of dying: **1 in 2,317**
Swimming: Odds of dying: **1 in 56,587**
Cycling: Odds of dying: **1 in 92,325**
Running: Odds of dying: **1 in 97,455**
Skydiving: Odds of dying: **1 in 101,083**
https://www.rulesofsport.com/faq/what-is-the-world-s-most-dangerous-sport.html
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Auto accident deaths:... | ["None of these are immoral. To ask if something is moral is not the same as asking if something is smart. Your asking the wrong question here. No one will call you a bad person for driving without a seat belt or riding a motorcycle without a helmet. They will call your choice a little dumb however.", "Not accurate bec... | [Puoaper]: None of these are immoral. To ask if something is moral is not the same as asking if something is smart. Your asking the wrong question here. No one will call you a bad person for driving without a seat belt or riding a motorcycle without a helmet. They will call your choice a little dumb however.
[nowthats... | 4.060443 | 0 | unchanged |
4rfi9d | d50ozk3 | 0 | 1,467,760,815 | CMV: Women who post nude/sexy pictures to social media are not "empowered" | I don't get why so many young women aspire to be Instagram "models" or post sexual pictures to social media for nothing more than likes. I do think paid modeling like Playboy or porn can be empowering because at least they are getting paid, but I can't understand why so many young women are willing to strip down for fr... | ["They're doing it go get exposure (no pun!) for themselves. By getting more followers they're more likely to be [hired by modelling agencies](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/04/09/attention-aspiring-modelsbuild-up-that-instagram-following.html). It's that simple.\n", "OP is talking about Instagram \"models\"... | [RustyRook]: They're doing it go get exposure (no pun!) for themselves. By getting more followers they're more likely to be [hired by modelling agencies](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/04/09/attention-aspiring-modelsbuild-up-that-instagram-following.html). It's that simple.
[RustyRook]: OP is talking about... | 3.295837 | 3 | unchanged |
b8r7d3 | ek00joa | 0 | 1,554,251,443 | CMV: Incels aren’t ! | &#x200B;
When people go shopping, they pick the nicest of the items available. They skip the damaged packages and pick the sealed packages. They would even go home before taking a damaged package. They skip the crappy wrapping for the bright nice colors. Product sellers know this so they make their product nice ... | ["Thank you OP for letting me realize that getting back in school, learning to take care of myself, practising self care, and more was actually my way of choosing not to improve myself and instead demanding that others pick me up. How would I instead start improving myself?"] | [IndependentBowler]: Thank you OP for letting me realize that getting back in school, learning to take care of myself, practising self care, and more was actually my way of choosing not to improve myself and instead demanding that others pick me up. How would I instead start improving myself? | 3.89182 | 0 | unchanged |
1p76w8 | cczkszy | 0 | 1,382,716,208 | I think capitalism is horrible. CMV. | I consider myself to be politically far left (obviously).
In my opinion, intentionally making some people's lives better at other people's cost is immoral.
I should mention that I consider a deterministic world view to be the best description of our universe (basically: no free will).
Therefore I don't think anyone d... | ["Are you talking state-capitalism or anarcho-capitalism? And please don't go angry an-com on me and say an-cap is a contradiction of terms.", "In what way is anarcho-capitalism \"horrible\"", "That's both \n\na) not accurate of anarcho-capitalism; thats what the neo-cons believe \n\nb) wishy washy"] | [monkyyy]: Are you talking state-capitalism or anarcho-capitalism? And please don't go angry an-com on me and say an-cap is a contradiction of terms.
[Krylos]: Don't worry, I won't go angry on you :P
I'm mainly talking about anarcho-capitalism. (And I actually think anarcho-communism is more of a contradiction than a... | 3.135494 | 2 | unchanged |
9u4e2q | e91dkxg | 0 | 1,541,347,023 | CMV: Donating to local charities is a poor use of resources | I hear a lot of people saying you need to give back to your community. I am 100% for the idea of charity, but why only those nearby?
Why give your money or time to a nearby food pantry when that money is better used to help children get malaria nests? Or schistosomiasis treatments? Or vitamin A enriched food so childre... | ["Technically, any act of giving (or taking) can be rationalized as totally immoral if you weigh it against the opportunity cost of what all else you could do with that money, even if it's the same number of people helped in either case. Scenario: you have two kids, A and B, who are in equal need, but you can only affo... | [pordanbeejeeterson]: Technically, any act of giving (or taking) can be rationalized as totally immoral if you weigh it against the opportunity cost of what all else you could do with that money, even if it's the same number of people helped in either case. Scenario: you have two kids, A and B, who are in equal need, b... | 5.560682 | 2 | unchanged |
h7nwoi | fumiagy | 0 | 1,591,979,170 | CMV: It is ethnically indefensible not to kill in self defense. | This ones pretty simple. If someone physically attacks you, you **should** kill them. I’m not saying it should be legal to kill them, or even that it’s defensible as a last resort, I’m saying that if someone attacks you than you are morally obligated to kill them.
My reasoning is such. If someone physically initiates ... | ["> If someone physically initiates violence with another human being, they demonstrate a lack of ability to solve there issues in more constructive ways. \n\nYelling at someone is also not a constructive way to solve issues, so does yelling warrant death?\n\n> By killing this person, one would be preventing fu... | [Rainbwned]: > If someone physically initiates violence with another human being, they demonstrate a lack of ability to solve there issues in more constructive ways.
Yelling at someone is also not a constructive way to solve issues, so does yelling warrant death?
> By killing this person, one would be preven... | 4.382027 | 0 | unchanged |
azk6xb | ei8o61f | 1 | 1,552,250,668 | CMV: Rotten Tomatoes/Disney are justified in removing bad reviews of Captain Marvel, and the outrage over Brie Larson makes no sense | So I would like to preface this post by saying that I am typically on the other side in debates like this. I typically am outraged when companies censor people's views, and hate when celebrities try to force diversity into their movies, especially when they try to target white males. However, I find this situation to b... | ["I'll approach your CMV in what I think is the weakest point, your summary on what she said.\n\nShe said and I quote here;\n\n>\". . . I do not need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about A Wrinkle in Time. It wasn’t made for him,..\"\n\nAnytime you are making a decision about someone ba... | [missmymom]: I'll approach your CMV in what I think is the weakest point, your summary on what she said.
She said and I quote here;
>". . . I do not need a 40-year-old white dude to tell me what didn’t work for him about A Wrinkle in Time. It wasn’t made for him,.."
Anytime you are making a decision about someone... | 5.075174 | 40 | changed |
117pwk2 | j9fz5fu | 0 | 1,676,940,614 | CMV: your partner’s body count doesn’t matter |
I don’t believe that it matters. Once someone’s with you, they already chose you and love you. This is assuming that this is a serious relationship and that the person seems decent. A lot of people seem bothered by this but I don’t understand why. I guess it can make some people insecure and feel like they don’t measu... | ["The Maximum you can ask for is what you are. If you have a low body count you have the right to want the same of your partner."] | [Any-Ask-3384]: The Maximum you can ask for is what you are. If you have a low body count you have the right to want the same of your partner. | 3.367296 | 224 | unchanged |
1gjy758 | lvgznw4 | 0 | 1,730,779,582 | CMV: It’s better for Democrats to vote Green this election and end the duopoly and show Neoliberals we won’t buy into their bullshit than for Democrats to keep using Trump or the next “Red Scare” as a way to scare voters into electing Blue. | I think the majority of well educated Americans can agree that we have a Duopoly, a hegemony, our own Oligarchy within American society. We have to stop letting media and celebrities trick us once again and vote in a Democrat that will more likely than not change much of the US. The US by the world’s definition is Cons... | ["> The US by the world’s definition is Conservative.\n\nLol, there are military dictatorships, theocracies, and monarchies all around the world. The US is not conservative by a global standard. \n\n>For the true bleeding heart Liberals, we can do better than Kamala. \n\nI mean that's true, but only because Kamala is t... | [IbnKhaldunStan]: > The US by the world’s definition is Conservative.
Lol, there are military dictatorships, theocracies, and monarchies all around the world. The US is not conservative by a global standard.
>For the true bleeding heart Liberals, we can do better than Kamala.
I mean that's true, but only because K... | 5.849325 | 1 | unchanged |
1c719fa | l04qogp | 0 | 1,713,440,724 | CMV: It is wasted time to care about politics at all. | My lifetime is valuable. I have many interesting and, more importantly, uplifting things to care about: my family, my hobbies, my friends, my company. I really love spending time on all of this. Quality time with my partner and my kids, creating things, socializing with people I love, and growing my company in playful ... | [">Smoking weed illegal? Okay, so I smoke only in my own garden where nobody cares.\n\nYou think the police won't care if you are in your garden? They will. They'll care so much they'll kick down your front door and thrash your house before taking you to jail. A friend of mine back in the illegal weed days smoked a joi... | [destro23]: >Smoking weed illegal? Okay, so I smoke only in my own garden where nobody cares.
You think the police won't care if you are in your garden? They will. They'll care so much they'll kick down your front door and thrash your house before taking you to jail. A friend of mine back in the illegal weed days smok... | 5.030438 | 1 | unchanged |
1c9wvq6 | l0od86d | 0 | 1,713,744,591 | CMV: High body count does not mean someone is low-value | There are multiple arguments I've seen online about why body count matters, and I think they all have flaws.
**1. "Ran through"**
One argument I have seen online is that a women gets "ran through", or used up. I think this premise in itself has flaws. What about her is getting used up? Is it the physical aspect? Get... | ["I am assigning value in the terms of how likely am I to have a long term relationship with a woman. Within this construct, if I find out that a woman has a body count of 100, I would not even try for a relationship. This is simply because if she could not have a lasting relationship those last 100 times, I am not sur... | [lwb03dc]: I am assigning value in the terms of how likely am I to have a long term relationship with a woman. Within this construct, if I find out that a woman has a body count of 100, I would not even try for a relationship. This is simply because if she could not have a lasting relationship those last 100 times, I a... | 5.472271 | 1 | unchanged |
17lny9p | k7fh1qt | 0 | 1,698,877,145 | CMV: Voting Republican should be illegal, and it would be a good thing. | Hear me out before you start getting mad at me, this is not dumb, what im trying to say is that voting republican should be illegal, just for a short period of time, my thesis is that once the democrats get elected and obtain total power on the goverment, they would fix all the common problems they can't right now, for... | ["Do you want to start a war? This idea is how you start a war.\n\nYou don't disenfranchise half of the country without massive consequences. You are literally taking away to core right to self determination *because you know better*. \n\nYea. Hell no. And this does not even touch on the wholesale abandonment of the US... | [Full-Professional246]: Do you want to start a war? This idea is how you start a war.
You don't disenfranchise half of the country without massive consequences. You are literally taking away to core right to self determination *because you know better*.
Yea. Hell no. And this does not even touch on the wholesale aba... | 4.859812 | 1 | unchanged |
2i74db | ckzh5vf | 0 | 1,412,351,895 | CMV: College cafeterias do not offer good enough healthy options for students | College cafeterias all claim to have ‘healthy options’ for students but I believe that a) the options aren’t any better for you than any other meal option available, and b) the healthy options need to be improved. Some college students, like myself, normally eat foods that are minimally processed have great health bene... | ["I agree with you on the processed meat-part. But while fresh produce is healthi*er*, frozen vegetables are not *un*healthy.\n\nIt is probably necessary to balance cost and nutrition. If it is cheaper to buy frozen produce I don't think it is too bad. When the vegetables are frozen you also save man-hours in the kitch... | [millol]: I agree with you on the processed meat-part. But while fresh produce is healthi*er*, frozen vegetables are not *un*healthy.
It is probably necessary to balance cost and nutrition. If it is cheaper to buy frozen produce I don't think it is too bad. When the vegetables are frozen you also save man-hours in the... | 4.430817 | 13 | unchanged |
1bygvzz | kyj9495 | 0 | 1,712,527,521 | CMV: We should take the contents of shows and movies very seriously, not just say ‚its just a show‘ | Pleasd note:
Just a headsup, if I say show and not show + movie, I still mean both mediums.
So, I find it so weird how people just say ‚its just a show, relax‘ and leave it at that when people bring up debatable topics in a show/movie.
I mean for one: movies/tv shows are there for entertainment, part of that is tal... | [">in fandoms like TBBT, many like to debate about the many debilitating jokes that are being made abt a wide range of people, and while I do still love the show, this should not be ignored.\n\n\nSo what action do you take? You love the show so it's not like you'd boycott it over the negativity you think it contains. \... | [Dry_Bumblebee1111]: >in fandoms like TBBT, many like to debate about the many debilitating jokes that are being made abt a wide range of people, and while I do still love the show, this should not be ignored.
So what action do you take? You love the show so it's not like you'd boycott it over the negativity you thin... | 4.248495 | 1 | unchanged |
5umbwz | ddvo6zw | 0 | 1,487,341,094 | CMV: Tau is greater than pi | For the uninitiated, read [The Tau Manifesto](https://tauday.com/tau-manifesto). The [parable](https://tauday.com/a-parable) is also amusing and illustrative.
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I believe that tau is the logical choice for a circle constant, not pi. A circle's essential feature is its radius, not its diameter, and the circle consta... | ["I think the problem with this view that tau would be easier to learn is that multiplication is a much more intuitive and easy to mentally calculate/visualize operation than division.\n\nHence, because there are times when tau is more convenient, and times when pi is more convenient, it is easier to have pi be primary... | [hacksoncode]: I think the problem with this view that tau would be easier to learn is that multiplication is a much more intuitive and easy to mentally calculate/visualize operation than division.
Hence, because there are times when tau is more convenient, and times when pi is more convenient, it is easier to have pi... | 4.532599 | 34 | unchanged |
18wr7wk | kggu8df | 0 | 1,704,207,215 | CMV: Nikki Haley cannot win the General Election because she bungled the Civil War question... | I'm surprised at the minimal news coverage of this AWFUL screwup on her part, but a little research shows she really does have problems understanding basic American History (Not the first time she's fumbled this basic issue), or she feels like she has to pander to a certain portion of the GOP Base, which I guess she fe... | ["I have only started really looking at whose running this year on the republican side. As far as a bungled question, it doesn't matter. Trump destroyed that whole thing on the republican side. As for Nikki Haley, I don't know if she can win it all. First let me be clear, being president is almost entirely a popula... | [Bobbert84]: I have only started really looking at whose running this year on the republican side. As far as a bungled question, it doesn't matter. Trump destroyed that whole thing on the republican side. As for Nikki Haley, I don't know if she can win it all. First let me be clear, being president is almost entire... | 5.743003 | 1 | unchanged |
4edbdm | d1zax9p | 0 | 1,460,415,992 | CMV: The vast majority of poor Republicans are not voting for their own best interests. | Let me preface this by saying I am referring to voting in the US and primarily for economic issues, as there are obviously some people in the deep south loves their guns and hate gay people. Furthermore, I am only saying this in terms of lower/lower-middle class Americans. I myself lean conservative because I come from... | ["I imagine that poor people who vote republican for economic reasons are doing so because they believe that they are focusing on the big picture. The republican message (which I'm not saying politicians actually adhere to) is that less government intrusion will allow the free market to improve the overall quality of l... | [LegatoBlue]: I imagine that poor people who vote republican for economic reasons are doing so because they believe that they are focusing on the big picture. The republican message (which I'm not saying politicians actually adhere to) is that less government intrusion will allow the free market to improve the overall ... | 5.549076 | 636 | unchanged |
113u5un | j8sd5e5 | 0 | 1,676,563,783 | CMV: News channels should not censor brutality/gore, ESPECIALLY when reporting on war. | I find the entire tone of conversations about war far too casual. For example: "I support Russia's invasion of Ukraine because (...)" or "We should send more weapons to Ukraine..."
Side note: this is not a CMV on the current war. It is a CMV on the reporting on it.
The tone, which reflects people's views on this top... | ["there are more disgusting atrocities being perpetrated around the world and capable of being photographed than i have time in a day.\n\nby what metric do you propose that the news guarantee it is providing me unfiltered access to the \"truth,\" which as you've defined it is people's limbs being torn off?", "your cent... | [Alternative_Letter95]: there are more disgusting atrocities being perpetrated around the world and capable of being photographed than i have time in a day.
by what metric do you propose that the news guarantee it is providing me unfiltered access to the "truth," which as you've defined it is people's limbs being torn... | 3.970292 | 136 | unchanged |
18xr16u | kg5xy0k | 0 | 1,704,308,628 | CMV: Real estate agents add very little value as a profession and would not be missed. | Real estate agents as they exist in the United States take a significant percentage cut of every home sale split between buyers and sellers agents. I would argue that this is essentially a waste based on a custom and societal expectations in the industry. Maybe in the past a realtor was necessary for advertising your h... | ["Have you actually bought/sold a home without going through a realtor?"] | [Hellioning]: Have you actually bought/sold a home without going through a realtor? | 2.484907 | 1 | unchanged |
2rmwcd | cnhcoug | 0 | 1,420,645,097 | CMV: Freedom of speech is being taken too far | In the last few weeks we've had two huge events happen in the world, both of which were caused by matters relating to "freedom of speech." The first being the hacking of Sony over The Interview, and today the shooting at the offices of a satirical magazine in Paris. I certainly value our free speech but to me there is ... | ["> ...there is a clear line between exercising your first amendment right and doing things that are known to be offensive to other cultures...\n\nThis is the error you've made, and it's a common one. \n\nThe First Amendment protects against *governmental* interference with your speech. It doesn't give you consequen... | [dtsjr]: > ...there is a clear line between exercising your first amendment right and doing things that are known to be offensive to other cultures...
This is the error you've made, and it's a common one.
The First Amendment protects against *governmental* interference with your speech. It doesn't give you conseq... | 5.129899 | 0 | unchanged |
ik9dfj | g3jc4sp | 0 | 1,598,917,312 | CMV: The is no such thing as "Cancel Culture". You're just an entitled child. | This isn't saying that people don't get canceled. But it's usually for actually doing something objectively terrible or being an unapologetic racist or something similar. I always hear people say "but what about so and so celebrity who said something on Twitter?" Those people usually just apologize and are perfectly f... | ["My objection to cancel culture is that is represents how simplistic and childish society is becoming. \n\nIs Kevin Spacey an excellent actor? Yes. Were his reported sexual deviances bad? Yes. \n\nI dont have to just view him as a good or a bad person. I can appreciate his work while condemning his personal actions. \... | [Bojack35]: My objection to cancel culture is that is represents how simplistic and childish society is becoming.
Is Kevin Spacey an excellent actor? Yes. Were his reported sexual deviances bad? Yes.
I dont have to just view him as a good or a bad person. I can appreciate his work while condemning his personal acti... | 4.919981 | 0 | unchanged |
qmt2he | hjbr2t9 | 0 | 1,636,055,763 | CMV: Colleges should consider IQ when accepting students | IQ is a strong predictor of dropout rates.
"A person with average academic ability has a higher than 50 percent chance of dropping out of college. For the general population, the average IQ score is 100. Research has found that, among white, American college students, those with a 105 IQ score have a 50-percent chanc... | ["So the obvious question is, what would IQ predict that we don't already have more direct ways of predicting? IQ would just give you the likelihood of the student having achieved the academic scores you're already looking at."] | [Glory2Hypnotoad]: So the obvious question is, what would IQ predict that we don't already have more direct ways of predicting? IQ would just give you the likelihood of the student having achieved the academic scores you're already looking at. | 3.663562 | 0 | unchanged |
15396do | jsi0zox | 0 | 1,689,711,543 | cmv: I have built up resentment towards America lately, and I feel biggoted because of it, anyone care to shed light on the good things of America |
Idk what it is, most likely because I spend significantly more time on social media for the past few months.
Don't get me wrong, but crazy shit from all over the world is posted, reddit being pretty unfiltered I spend most time on here.
I see a lot of fucked up shit you Americans post, like shit you don't see othe... | ["> Idk what it is, most likely because I spend significantly more time on social media for the past few months.\n\nThat would do it. Are you even American?\n\nI’m going to assume you’re not while I read this.\n\n> American content is far more fucked up than those posts I'm talking about from elsewhere, you guys have s... | [myboobiezarequitebig]: > Idk what it is, most likely because I spend significantly more time on social media for the past few months.
That would do it. Are you even American?
I’m going to assume you’re not while I read this.
> American content is far more fucked up than those posts I'm talking about from elsewhere,... | 5.777652 | 1 | unchanged |
t9uwv0 | hzwqyzc | 0 | 1,646,785,073 | cmv: online platforms should be subject to free speech | Edit: okay people I've accepted now that the only way to do this and still maintain Free speech would be by creating a more complicated way for everything to be the same so I'm done arguing.
Edit 2: can people please stop commenting asking questions that I've already answered?
To be clear I understand that Free spee... | [">I don't understand how you can argue that it's okay for companies to be allowed to censor any kind of speech on their platforms. \n\nWell, because that's free speech. Presently, online platforms are subject to free speech, and as a result they can say and publish and _not_ say and _not_ publish what they want. In... | [yyzjertl]: >I don't understand how you can argue that it's okay for companies to be allowed to censor any kind of speech on their platforms.
Well, because that's free speech. Presently, online platforms are subject to free speech, and as a result they can say and publish and _not_ say and _not_ publish what they ... | 4.553877 | 0 | unchanged |
1budyrd | kxs1140 | 0 | 1,712,101,867 | CMV:If you don’t let your kid play football even if they say they will be a kicker/punter/long snapper you are making a mistake | I completely understand if you don’t want your kids to play football as an offensive or defensive position because it’s dangerous and we’ve all heard of CTE and that sort of thing,but if they say they’ll become a kicker or punter or long snapper and you still don’t let them play,I think you’re making a mistake. These p... | ["You live outside the USA. /thread.", "No...i mean, if you live outside of the USA. There are about 8 billion people on this planet, and about 8 billion people live outside of the USA.", "You mean like the sport that only one country in the world really cares about. I'm talking about how important the real game of foo... | [ilivalkyw]: You live outside the USA. /thread.
[Straight_Toe_1816]: No, I live and played football in the USA
[ilivalkyw]: No...i mean, if you live outside of the USA. There are about 8 billion people on this planet, and about 8 billion people live outside of the USA.
[Straight_Toe_1816]: Oh my bad I’m sorry I didn... | 1.94591 | 1 | unchanged |
ctjmuc | exms7xk | 0 | 1,566,406,773 | CMV: The world would be a much better place without alcohol | Disclaimer - I'm not saying prohibition would work. Clearly it didn't and won't work. I'm just talking purely hypothetically.
EDIT - I'm talking purely alcohol consumption, meaning drinking beer, wine, etc. Yes, it has many benefits like cleaning and baking cookies. :-)
Pros of alcohol - tastes good; social lubric... | ["Alcohol consumption is correlated with longer life. Light / moderate drinkers are best off, but even heavy drinkers have a slight edge over people who do not drink at all. You can do a quick Google search for studies, but here is a page that popped up immediately for me.\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/51665... | [Delmoroth]: Alcohol consumption is correlated with longer life. Light / moderate drinkers are best off, but even heavy drinkers have a slight edge over people who do not drink at all. You can do a quick Google search for studies, but here is a page that popped up immediately for me.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.... | 4.744932 | 52 | unchanged |
922j0l | e33aoce | 0 | 1,532,613,791 | CMV: Identity politics is a dangerous political strategy, unless you have a lock on the dominant identity | Identity politics is a zero-sum game.
In order to support women, you have to suffer being perceived as opposing men (although that may not actually be true).
In order to support immigrants, you have to suffer being perceived as opposing Americans (again, although that may not be true).
There's even a recent exam... | ["Out of the 7000 languages and presumably at least that many cultures, which ones fit on the pedestal?"] | [DieSystem]: Out of the 7000 languages and presumably at least that many cultures, which ones fit on the pedestal? | 2.944439 | 46 | unchanged |
131733w | jhzupl4 | 0 | 1,682,629,812 | CMV: Mobile phone games were never good | [Inspired from here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/12t4cxp/cmv_there_have_been_no_classic_or_even_good/)
Even before microtransactions/loot boxes were the norm with mobile games today, I thought mobile phone games were never good to begin with. First, in the flip/feature phone days, these games (and ... | ["Play Retro Bowl. That will change your view."] | [Zakmin77]: Play Retro Bowl. That will change your view. | 2.197225 | 123 | unchanged |
2qbpbi | cn4rc4u | 0 | 1,419,467,215 | CMV: People should not be looked down upon for perceived "poor" tipping. | (*Disclaimer:* I am **not** against tipping. This has mainly to do with tipping as it takes place in the USA but is not limited to there.)
I constantly hear and read about people who are *perceived* to be poor tippers in restaurants, bars, hotels, etc are looked down upon or some *servers* will go as far as spitting o... | ["To not tip means that you are stating that the job the server did was absolutely atrocious. If that was the case then not tipping is fully justified, but if that is not the case you are insulting someone on purpose without cause and that does make you a bad person and someone to be looked down upon. ", "Not in the US... | [cdb03b]: To not tip means that you are stating that the job the server did was absolutely atrocious. If that was the case then not tipping is fully justified, but if that is not the case you are insulting someone on purpose without cause and that does make you a bad person and someone to be looked down upon.
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2auibi | ciyyrwo | 0 | 1,405,505,992 | CMV: Pre-determinism, there is no free will and everything is pre-determined. | Let me first explain my reasoning:
Starting with just simple physics, you could model the movement of a ball that is shot out of a cannon. Assuming you knew all initial and boundary conditions, you could hypothetically create a perfect mathematical model to describe the motion of the ball.
This is perhaps a leap of ... | ["How do you define free will?"] | [thiazzi1]: How do you define free will? | 1.94591 | 0 | unchanged |
97wj2d | e4bi4su | 0 | 1,534,456,210 | CMV: "Right-Wing" politics are basically a justification for selfishness. | According to Wikipedia:
> Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal or desirable,[1][2][3] typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics or tradition.
For the purposes of this discussion, that is the definition I will use, and wa... | ["Those hierarchies may not be a good thing, but they are a necessary thing for many reasons. \n\nFor example, some people are richer than others -- that's not always fair and not always warranted. But, for the most part, money is an economic motivator. If everyone were to have the exact same amount of money no matt... | [BroccoliManChild]: Those hierarchies may not be a good thing, but they are a necessary thing for many reasons.
For example, some people are richer than others -- that's not always fair and not always warranted. But, for the most part, money is an economic motivator. If everyone were to have the exact same amount ... | 4.59512 | 59 | unchanged |
1epkubq | lhpwn4l | 1 | 1,723,382,996 | CMV: Dance and performative events like 'Breaking' shouldn't be in the Olympics | With all the Raygun crap and discussion around Breaking in the Olympics, I don't understand how creative/subjective performative events like Dance and Dressage are part of the Olympics. They don't seem like sports.
I heard that Ballroom dance has been petitioning for a long time to be considered an Olympic 'sport' bu... | ["Honestly my issue with break dancing is that they’ve already removed a type of dancing once because it’s too reliant on style not execution of set skills, and the only way to make break dancing truly standardised scoring will push it closer and closer to just a form of gymnastics \n\nIt could have a place but it woul... | [NoobOfTheSquareTable]: Honestly my issue with break dancing is that they’ve already removed a type of dancing once because it’s too reliant on style not execution of set skills, and the only way to make break dancing truly standardised scoring will push it closer and closer to just a form of gymnastics
It could have... | 4.574711 | 400 | changed |
kzahq1 | gjmn8g4 | 1 | 1,610,904,084 | CMV: Many of the insurrectionist and/or rioters are getting lighter charges than their actions deserved. | I am with everyone who is EXTREMELY upset with what happened at Capitol Hill. At first, I was in denial how wide spread and violent the event was. But after watching footage and reading reports, it's so clear that many protestors who STORMED the Capitol were insurrectionists trying to use terrorism to disrupt our democ... | ["It looks like what you're missing is that the disorderly conduct charges are being charged because they are a near slam-dunk for a conviction and are readily proven from even a surface glance at the evidence, while other elements of the more serious crimes might require serious investigation.\n\nTake, for instance, U... | [Arguetur]: It looks like what you're missing is that the disorderly conduct charges are being charged because they are a near slam-dunk for a conviction and are readily proven from even a surface glance at the evidence, while other elements of the more serious crimes might require serious investigation.
Take, for ins... | 5.493061 | 4 | changed |
4xiktc | d6g34we | 0 | 1,471,084,681 | CMV: In the interest of not being sexist, either circumcision should be rebranded as "male genital mutilation" (and also to give circumcision the frightening name it deserves), or FGM should be rebranded as "female circumcision" | First off, to clarify, I believe that *both* male genital mutilation and female genital mutilation are absolutely horrid, barbaric, archaic practices (at least when done on non-consenting babies) that shame the concept of consent. If you want to do it as an adult or a teenager old enough to consent, then that's your ch... | ["> So, why is it that slicing off a third to a half of the tissue of the penis (which yes, I've verified this, is a genital) is called \"circumcision\" and is not called \"male genital mutilation\"...\n\nWhoa, whoa. **Whoa.** What?\n\nIf that's actually what happened, that would indeed be mutilation! Half the penis... | [arcosapphire]: > So, why is it that slicing off a third to a half of the tissue of the penis (which yes, I've verified this, is a genital) is called "circumcision" and is not called "male genital mutilation"...
Whoa, whoa. **Whoa.** What?
If that's actually what happened, that would indeed be mutilation! Half the... | 5.147494 | 96 | unchanged |
1ad5zer | kjyvd8r | 0 | 1,706,458,072 | CMV: In capitalist meritocracies, certain unproductive people should be killed by the state. | It's me. I mean me. So before anyone goes "gee I wonder what sort of person YOU are OP", let's just nip that in the bud.
Second, this is specifically aimed towards people who actually believe in capitalism, free markets n' such, people who believe that an unproductive welfare underclass is morally repugnant– **Why do... | ["Anyone could be in a rut. You think 'going on a decade' in your 20s is enough to prove you'll be a leech forever? I don't. Like you said, you have those pesky instincts...hunger/thirst are strong motivators. What would the criteria even be for the state to kill a lazy bum? If they don't gross X amount of money by X a... | [SnooPets1127]: Anyone could be in a rut. You think 'going on a decade' in your 20s is enough to prove you'll be a leech forever? I don't. Like you said, you have those pesky instincts...hunger/thirst are strong motivators. What would the criteria even be for the state to kill a lazy bum? If they don't gross X amount o... | 5.164786 | 1 | unchanged |
dj8hl3 | f42o1d0 | 0 | 1,571,328,342 | CMV: it is insane that the teachers are striking in Chicago when the City already offered 16% raises and for the average teacher to make 6 figures | Just saw this on the news. I really don't get it. It appears insane to me that a strike is going on when the city is offering 100,000 salary to the average teacher. What world am I living in when that isn't good enough? I know plenty of professional service people slaving for 60 hour work weeks (and not getting the sum... | ["1. I'd like to see median, not average. Our company tried that same nonsense when we were on strike earlier in the year to portray the average worker as earning more than $20/hr, when that number is massively inflated by a segment of people who have worked there for 25+ years(meanwhile, the salary cap for most full t... | [OpelSmith]: 1. I'd like to see median, not average. Our company tried that same nonsense when we were on strike earlier in the year to portray the average worker as earning more than $20/hr, when that number is massively inflated by a segment of people who have worked there for 25+ years(meanwhile, the salary cap for ... | 4.644391 | 119 | unchanged |
140q37f | jmx15o2 | 1 | 1,685,912,189 | CMV: The existence of incels is ultimately a good sign for feminism | In human history we’ve gone through different eras of different styles of mate selection. Throughout each era there has been incels just not called that. In primative Hunter and gatherer times, the incels were men who were not strong enough to hunt. As a result they were likely killed by animals or by the elements.
If... | [">For women, incels mean that their survival is no longer dependent on the presence of a man in their life.\n\nAgreed\n\n>It means that men who refuse to get with the times will die alone and the continued growth of the incel population means a shift in breeding patterns to favor women over men.\n\nThis I have a probl... | [GameProtein]: >For women, incels mean that their survival is no longer dependent on the presence of a man in their life.
Agreed
>It means that men who refuse to get with the times will die alone and the continued growth of the incel population means a shift in breeding patterns to favor women over men.
This I have ... | 5.01728 | 0 | changed |
ljn6ka | gnfde8r | 0 | 1,613,304,090 | CMV: age of criminal responsibility should be the same as age of consent. | I have always wondered why in many western countries the age of consent is so far out of line with the age of criminal responsibility (for the UK it’s 10 for criminal responsibility and 16 for age of consent)
Before anyone jumps to assuming I am advocating for younger children to be having sex; my view is the age of c... | ["You fundamentally misunderstand the age of consent. You state several places that someone under the age of consent is ‘not allowed to have sex.’ That’s not how it works. There is NO punishment for the child under the age of consent. Age of consent laws aren’t designed to prohibit teens from having sex, they are m... | [merlinus12]: You fundamentally misunderstand the age of consent. You state several places that someone under the age of consent is ‘not allowed to have sex.’ That’s not how it works. There is NO punishment for the child under the age of consent. Age of consent laws aren’t designed to prohibit teens from having sex... | 4.912655 | 44 | unchanged |
b8clp2 | ejx2ve5 | 0 | 1,554,168,607 | CMV: Racism is a social construct that will never be "defeated." | Hear me out. I respect those who do try to fight racism, and i understand that you want no racism. i agree with you, and i wish racism didnt exist in modern society, however we just cant get rid of it.
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Racism - prejudice, di... | ["Right off the bat, why do you cite the dictionary definition of “racism”?", "I should have been clearer, my bad.\n\nWhy do you cite a dictionary definition of racism rather than an alternative definition? ", "But you could look elsewhere, like to experts who study racism as a social construct. ", "Then why start off ... | [QueggingtheBestion]: Right off the bat, why do you cite the dictionary definition of “racism”?
[crazyKrouton1]: so we can have a clear, concise understanding of what that word means. racism is often defined diferently by many people, wanted a uniform definition
[QueggingtheBestion]: I should have been clearer, my ba... | 2.639057 | 0 | unchanged |
8zwf55 | e2lxkkk | 0 | 1,531,927,330 | CMV: Most of what General Practitioners do can either be done adequately by nurses if regulation was loosened or ought to be done by specialists, western health care systems ought to move away from a GP-based system | What brings this about is that I have a Japanese friend who had to get some care recently, and I was chatting with her and she told me she was at a specialized ear-throat clinic. Being a Canadian, where getting there requires going to a GP and convincing him you have a big enough problem to give you a referral to such ... | ["No. You don't get to extol the virtues of the Japanese health care system without pointing out the massive, massive built-in advantage of it; it's socialized.\n\nIn Japan, if the government decides they want to buy 10 million bottles of penicillin, they can find a drug company willing to give them a bulk discount, a... | [toldyaso]: No. You don't get to extol the virtues of the Japanese health care system without pointing out the massive, massive built-in advantage of it; it's socialized.
In Japan, if the government decides they want to buy 10 million bottles of penicillin, they can find a drug company willing to give them a bulk dis... | 4.890349 | 6 | unchanged |
13tf8sv | jlv3b9z | 0 | 1,685,213,819 | CMV: Compatibilism (Free will coexisting with Determinism) Makes No Sense | Compatibilists will say free will is compatible with determinism because we could have done otherwise than what we did.
But you can never know if you could have done otherwise because you only ever know what you have done.
Everything we know about observable reality indicates that everything has a cause and effect. ... | ["> Compatibilists will say free will is compatible with determinism because we could have done otherwise than what we did.\n\nI don't necessarily object to this definition, but based on the rest of your post I think you're interpreting this differently than what's intended. Wikipedia gives the compatibilist definition... | [themcos]: > Compatibilists will say free will is compatible with determinism because we could have done otherwise than what we did.
I don't necessarily object to this definition, but based on the rest of your post I think you're interpreting this differently than what's intended. Wikipedia gives the compatibilist def... | 5.762051 | 5 | unchanged |
cbn3ba | etgxa8q | 1 | 1,562,795,867 | CMV: There's no reason besides tradition to take my future husband's name | Struggling with adjusting to the concept of taking my husband-to-be's last name (I'm female). We've had many open discussions on this, and he finally arrived at 'if this is what makes you happy, I'm open to whatever you decide (keeping my own name, hyphenating, not changing to my name obvs). He doesn't say it with rese... | ["You mentioned generally being open in talking about gender norms and such. Maybe a place to start would be where you both fall on this. Are you both in camp “gender norms are 100% socially constructed and any generalization about men and women is either false or *only* true because of culture’s influence through patr... | [MagiKKell]: You mentioned generally being open in talking about gender norms and such. Maybe a place to start would be where you both fall on this. Are you both in camp “gender norms are 100% socially constructed and any generalization about men and women is either false or *only* true because of culture’s influence t... | 6.137727 | 36 | changed |
elg9m5 | fdhocyt | 1 | 1,578,425,032 | CMV: There's nothing wrong with going to a restaurant just before close. | It is totally ok to go into a restaurant close to closing time as a customer. Workers complain that it makes them stay longer and that it's rude, but my opinion is that the real beef should be with management. The restaurant could close sooner, could close the kitchen before the closing time, or just simply not seat pe... | ["> \"Sorry we aren't seating any more people at this time as we're about to close,\"\n\nAnd they often do that. You're just putting them in a really awkward position. Even if they're allowed to say this to you, it still puts them in an awkward position to have to kick you out. It is still an imposition. Just be... | [AnythingApplied]: > "Sorry we aren't seating any more people at this time as we're about to close,"
And they often do that. You're just putting them in a really awkward position. Even if they're allowed to say this to you, it still puts them in an awkward position to have to kick you out. It is still an imposit... | 5.204007 | 0 | changed |
9tfvbj | e8w059f | 1 | 1,541,123,624 | CMV: The beliefs that mental health should be destigmatised, LGBT+ people are disadvantaged, and LGBT+ people are not mentally ill cannot all be rationally held simultaneously. | >A mental disorder, also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, is a behavioural or mental pattern that causes significant distress or impairment of personal functioning.
That's the definition for mental disorder that I found, and it seems to match how people talk about it, so it's the one I'll be using u... | ["Being lgbt does not cause distress any more than liking blonds causes distress. The mental pattern that is the problem is people stigmatizing and hating lgbt people. So the disadvantage that they face is external not internal and thus not a mental illness."] | [ifellows]: Being lgbt does not cause distress any more than liking blonds causes distress. The mental pattern that is the problem is people stigmatizing and hating lgbt people. So the disadvantage that they face is external not internal and thus not a mental illness. | 3.78419 | 0 | changed |
hn9ym4 | fxbwpkd | 0 | 1,594,180,392 | CMV: Cancel Culture does more harm than good | Ok I’m cancelling this post because most people who have made comments on here are solely focused on attacking a set of political beliefs I don’t have.
Seriously this is a forum for serious debate.
You won’t change someone’s mind being a prick which is why cancel culture does not really work.
Cancel culture: the ... | ["The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a viable alternative. You say you'd prefer a rehabilitating alternative; I think we all would. But there's no mechanism for that. I have the power to call someone out on Twitter, but I don't have the power to make them enter \"shitty person rehab\" or whatever. Powerfu... | [towishimp]: The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a viable alternative. You say you'd prefer a rehabilitating alternative; I think we all would. But there's no mechanism for that. I have the power to call someone out on Twitter, but I don't have the power to make them enter "shitty person rehab" or whatever.... | 4.875197 | 47 | unchanged |
35ruv5 | cr77qp7 | 0 | 1,431,475,563 | CMV: Reverse racism is a real thing. | So, I'm confused about this whole, *"appropriation of white supremacy"* and *"reverse racism"* not existing thing.
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From what I understand: ethnic minorities cannot discriminate because of their skin color and/or nationality. Meaning, minorities/persons of color/foreign nationals cannot be racist because th... | ["A person's *beliefs* determine whether they are racist - racism is a determinist philosophy, the idea that an individual's character is predetermined by his racial genetics. A common *consequence* of that belief is that therefor some races are superior/inferior to others. It doesn't matter if you believe your race is... | [swearrengen]: A person's *beliefs* determine whether they are racist - racism is a determinist philosophy, the idea that an individual's character is predetermined by his racial genetics. A common *consequence* of that belief is that therefor some races are superior/inferior to others. It doesn't matter if you believe... | 4.51086 | 12 | unchanged |
17yc9hr | k9sk0bj | 0 | 1,700,331,000 | CMV: The two state solution to the Israel Palestine conflict is a terrible idea and would lead to many more innocent deaths |
The general consensus in many places seems to be that a two state solution is the correct solution going forward, but I have a question I was wondering about. How would Jews in Israel be safe under a two state solution? If you ask almost any Palestinian in Palestine, they will say that all of the territory currently ... | [">The general consensus in many places seems to be that a two state solution is the correct solution going forward, but I have a question I was wondering about.\n\nOnly solution that doesn't include ethnic cleansing or unarguable apartheid for either Palestinians or Israelis.\n\n>How would Jews in Israel be safe under... | [Holyfrickingcrap]: >The general consensus in many places seems to be that a two state solution is the correct solution going forward, but I have a question I was wondering about.
Only solution that doesn't include ethnic cleansing or unarguable apartheid for either Palestinians or Israelis.
>How would Jews in Israel... | 6.285998 | 6 | unchanged |
130qryn | jhxi9m3 | 0 | 1,682,608,535 | CMV: Women are mainly meta-attracted to men. | I think heterosexual females (and a few MtF transes and most FtM transes) are mainly attracted to how men that are reasonably reproductively attractive (with a lot of variation due to childhood development) make them feel sexually attractive/desirable, aka meta-attraction. Most homosexual males on the other hand are ma... | ["I remember I went down the whole black pill lookism path a few years back. I have retracted most of those beliefs since. Because I found them to be too narrow and inconsistent with that I observe in the real world.\n\nWhat my dad once said appears to be the most consistent with what I have observed. \"Not everyone ca... | [Enzo-Fernandez]: I remember I went down the whole black pill lookism path a few years back. I have retracted most of those beliefs since. Because I found them to be too narrow and inconsistent with that I observe in the real world.
What my dad once said appears to be the most consistent with what I have observed. "No... | 5.433722 | 0 | unchanged |
3npbkp | cvqdtbl | 0 | 1,444,137,031 | CMV: I think the old argument "You cant judge Islam by the action of those few extremists, because there are also a lot of peacefull muslims" is invalid. | I think an ideology or religion should be judged by the rate of violent extremists that emerge from it. If the rate is higher than in other religions or ideologies, then there actually is something wrong with the religion itself.
Just pointing at a loving muslim father who just tries to feed his dauhters and live his l... | ["The problem with the claim that \"Islam\" ought to be viewed as a more fundamentally violent and oppressive religion is that we use the word 'Islam' as if we can point to one single category of individuals who fit the qualification of being Muslim. \n\nThe problem with generalizing anything of such cultural scale is ... | [jarickman2]: The problem with the claim that "Islam" ought to be viewed as a more fundamentally violent and oppressive religion is that we use the word 'Islam' as if we can point to one single category of individuals who fit the qualification of being Muslim.
The problem with generalizing anything of such cultural s... | 6.030685 | 452 | unchanged |
8hjury | dykewc8 | 0 | 1,525,656,013 | CMV: National parks are not justified by the public interest | I'm very much into camping and the outdoors. I personally benefit from the parks, and have spent months of my life exploring many national parks. My own life is much richer thanks to the national park systems. I know I'm not alone.
But I'm troubled when I consider whether the benefits to all of us interested in recre... | ["The National Parks Deparment has a budget of 3 billion - or 0.1% of the US budget. And yes, much of that money goes towards employing people. They get a paycheck, and then they spend the paycheck, pumping money back into the economy.\n\nIf private company owned the Grand Canyon, and charged thousands of dollars admis... | [kublahkoala]: The National Parks Deparment has a budget of 3 billion - or 0.1% of the US budget. And yes, much of that money goes towards employing people. They get a paycheck, and then they spend the paycheck, pumping money back into the economy.
If private company owned the Grand Canyon, and charged thousands of do... | 5.429346 | 8 | unchanged |
bm77yo | emuco2l | 0 | 1,557,332,232 | CMV: Organised proselytisation is genocidal in nature | Just after my maternal grandfather died, some missionaries appeared at my grandmother's doorstep, and actively tried to put the reason of my grandfather's death on his non-belief in their messiah. They active-passively tried to convert my grandmother to their religion. She did not, but I think of countless cultures get... | ["The United Nations Genocide Convention, which was established in 1948, defines genocide as \"acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group\", including the systematic harm or killing of its members, deliberately imposing living conditions that seek to \"brin... | [Tibaltdidnothinwrong]: The United Nations Genocide Convention, which was established in 1948, defines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group", including the systematic harm or killing of its members, deliberately imposing living conditions... | 5.293305 | 5 | unchanged |
glindt | fqxnn7y | 1 | 1,589,733,940 | CMV: Tech companies are taking away users rights and abilities to control their software and hardware in order to give themselves more control over us, our data and our devices. | I’ve been using Apple products for the last 10 years. I used to buy a MacBook pro with minimal specs and add ram and storage I’d buy elsewhere for cheaper. This is no longer an option as everything is glued together now.
New MacBooks turn on when you open the lid, or press any key. Seems like a normal thing, but just ... | ["Apple represents less than 10% of the laptop market. You've _selected_ a minority player in the space that is exactly what you say it is - a closed system that is willing to sacrifice your flexbility for it's ideas about user experience. It works great for many people, but not for you. You've got options, so damni... | [iamintheforest]: Apple represents less than 10% of the laptop market. You've _selected_ a minority player in the space that is exactly what you say it is - a closed system that is willing to sacrifice your flexbility for it's ideas about user experience. It works great for many people, but not for you. You've got o... | 4.143135 | 93 | changed |
6sn34h | dlfavnz | 0 | 1,502,300,131 | CMV: Police issuing PBA cards and other credentials to their friends, family, and donors is wrong | A [PBA card](http://imgur.com/tUMmzHw) is issued by police unions for officers to give to their friends or family members. The recipient can later present it when he interacts with another officer—typically when pulled over in his car, where the card may get him just a warning instead of a ticket. It’s not a get-out-of... | ["I was given a police association car sticker with my uncles badge number. He told me that it would assist in identifying me or my vehicle in the event that it's stolen or I die and become unrecognizable in an accident. The police know to immediately contact that badge number and report the accident to that officer. \... | [tomlets]: I was given a police association car sticker with my uncles badge number. He told me that it would assist in identifying me or my vehicle in the event that it's stolen or I die and become unrecognizable in an accident. The police know to immediately contact that badge number and report the accident to that o... | 4.615121 | 1,042 | unchanged |
1h5mnhm | m07d0op | 0 | 1,733,230,170 | Cmv: People should appreciate rich people starting businesses more | I always find it interesting that 99% of the time when asked if you had X millions what would you do, the answer always seems to be along the lines of “buy this, do nothing, enjoy life and travel etc”
Rarely if ever have I seen a response that is I’m going to risk it x% of it for this business idea that I have.
You h... | ["Culturally, Americans are very supportive of people starting businesses. If you start a business and ask your first customers for feedback, you'll find a lot of them are very eager to help you succeed. This is part of the reason why businesses like Crumbl cookies grow so quickly here. This support doesn't really exte... | [Hothera]: Culturally, Americans are very supportive of people starting businesses. If you start a business and ask your first customers for feedback, you'll find a lot of them are very eager to help you succeed. This is part of the reason why businesses like Crumbl cookies grow so quickly here. This support doesn't re... | 4.820282 | 1 | unchanged |
gr3h1u | frwgas4 | 0 | 1,590,520,365 | CMV: The environmental movement is elitist and tone-deaf to the needs of working class people. | Climate change and its associated impacts present major threats to global biodiversity, major ecosystems and human life.
The current environmental movement has been led by the middle-class with the free time and resources available to change their lifestyles to afford expensive, "eco" alternatives. I look at Extincti... | ["So, I’m going to try empathizing with you since I grew up in oil country up north. \n\nYou’re not wrong that the environmentalist movement isn’t overall positive, job wise, for the people who rely on those industries that it negatively affects. \n\nHowever, I don’t think it makes much sense to consider it an objecti... | [ImpressiveBusiness2]: So, I’m going to try empathizing with you since I grew up in oil country up north.
You’re not wrong that the environmentalist movement isn’t overall positive, job wise, for the people who rely on those industries that it negatively affects.
However, I don’t think it makes much sense to consi... | 5.488938 | 300 | unchanged |
1ds43fd | lazonp6 | 0 | 1,719,761,420 | CMV: Trump will win after that debate. | Let's start with the obvious: Biden's already trailed in a majority of polls, and Thursday's debate likely caused him to lose a few more points. There are many calls for Biden to be replaced, and mainstream media keeps releasing stories about how party insiders and delegates are calling for him to step down. There are ... | ["he WONT win. the Est. Dems will come to their senses before the convention and select a winning and capable commander in chief. \n\n \nright???"] | [Anything_4_LRoy]: he WONT win. the Est. Dems will come to their senses before the convention and select a winning and capable commander in chief.
right??? | 3.218876 | 1 | unchanged |
jvmicp | gckws30 | 0 | 1,605,587,091 | CMV: The political divide in America is dangerous and will continue to endure in the near future | [Since 1994, the general public and especially engaged voters have moved more towards the positions of either the Republican or Democratic party.](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/political-polarization-1994-2017/)
[Nearly 3/4 of Republican, Democratic, and Independent Foreign Policy Opinion Leaders... | ["I'm not quite sure how you see it as dangerous, if your taking about politicians. I agree it's dangerous in the social sense (rioting and hate). But In the policiy making sense, wheeling and dealing happens all the time, even now. They say bad stuff about eachother on Twitter, then meet for lunch to discuss the give-... | [threeSJE]: I'm not quite sure how you see it as dangerous, if your taking about politicians. I agree it's dangerous in the social sense (rioting and hate). But In the policiy making sense, wheeling and dealing happens all the time, even now. They say bad stuff about eachother on Twitter, then meet for lunch to discuss... | 4.110874 | 195 | unchanged |
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