spicy.lemonade: yes

hikukomoru: What's the source

spicy.lemonade: deepseek

spicy.lemonade: "drop before may"

metaldragon01: Not at all

futurist_wizard: Bet you matches o3/o4 mini

metaldragon01: Openai and Google are open-sourcing models

.wolfnacht: i expect r2 to beat sonnet-3.7-thinking and grok-3-mini-THONK and somewhere acheives it place below 2.5pro

futurist_wizard: Or a bit worse

wolf3404: Google is known for its anti open source lobbying. Sama is probably be more sneaky about it it

hikukomoru: R2 will be Gemini 2.5 pro level

metaldragon01: R2 will be close to o4 mini level

futurist_wizard: I think we need to realise nobody is ahead in this

gamerbath: google is anti open source? they have released open source models of their own

futurist_wizard: And we are just watching incremental improvements

metaldragon01: Several with great support

hikukomoru: Google is ahead

rayanquitplayin: From my perspective, this is true

.wolfnacht: they would need their base model to do better than gpt 4.5 if they need it around 2.5 pro.

metaldragon01: Google and openai tied atm but I think google ahead long term "power" wise

metaldragon01: I think openai will still have better products

futurist_wizard: Google is ahead on achievements performed by ai i suppose

futurist_wizard: Alphafold n shit

metaldragon01: Enterprise to Google and consumers to openai

.wolfnacht: google already planned better for long term than OAI did.

wolf3404: Including deepminds Google is probably way ahead tbh

.wolfnacht: i guess claude might die somewhere in between

metaldragon01: I think of all the labs anthropic is in the weakest position

.wolfnacht: o4-mini is soo much cheaper and better than 3.7-sonnet-thinking

hikukomoru: Someone should buy Anthropic

hikukomoru: They're already out of the race

metaldragon01: Anthropic isn't throwing it in anytime soon

rayanquitplayin: Tech moves so fast

wolf3404: how much does it cost?

metaldragon01: Google and Amazon will keep funding

.wolfnacht: meanwhile claude's fanboys are literally the most high ones on copium.

hikukomoru: They're worth 60 bil

wolf3404: no it’s good for coding

.wolfnacht: getting bought by Tencent would be the best case scenario

wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395


shirethedreamer: oh nice
i dont know anyone that got those
whats your number one use?

himekokatagiri: such technology and they put it in a frame designed in the 50s

trojan09205: Definitely as regular sunglasses and headphones

shirethedreamer: lmao yeah thats pretty conservative 😆

trojan09205:

trojan09205: I also like taking videos of birds and nature

trojan09205: Bruh i went to go buy a new pair of sunglasses and theyre all mad expensive anyways

So i got sold on the meta raybans haha 😂

drewsni: i got them and dont use them lol

trojan09205: I had a $300 gift certificate at macys i got at work so i didnt throw down much

trojan09205: I also like just chatting with llama on my face lmao

trojan09205: I ask it what im looking at and then just chat with it. It has a nice agentic backend you can set reminders and other stuff too

Ask it to play a song

sarik0497: It does to some extent. It shows an understanding of the environment that they’re talking about.

In the same vein, you also believe the predictions of experts in a specific field more than some random Joe. It doesn’t mean that their word is law and a certainty, but it does give them more credence.

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/her-movie-her-movie-gif-joaquin-phoenix-gif-12506377

sarik0497: That’s true, and was sort of a mixed bag. However, it depends a lot on where you’re, I think. If you told any of my friends that you were talking to an AI, they’d put you into that category of being a lonely guy with no one else to talk to.

retrerox: Can i use cursos with gemini?=

spicy.lemonade: Ngl I don't see anything wrong with this

spicy.lemonade: Infact

spicy.lemonade: Their predictions are better than any of ours

spicy.lemonade: They provide substantial amount of data

spicy.lemonade: Facts

spicy.lemonade: And one of them is the #1 ranked forecaster on earth

spicy.lemonade: A lot of us here go based on vibes

spicy.lemonade: AI 2027 is so concrete I love it

spicy.lemonade: And the visuals too

spicy.lemonade: Character Ai?

spicy.lemonade: I think it did

alejandrozarzuelo: At least in my environment it's mostly people being productive

spicy.lemonade: https://fxtwitter.com/altryne/status/1914421814455099680?s=46

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/tencenthunyuan/status/1914484301820788949?s=46

st.sioux: > Dia has been tested on only GPUs (pytorch 2.0+, CUDA 12.6). CPU support is to be added soon. The initial run will take longer as the Descript Audio Codec also needs to be downloaded.
>
> On enterprise GPUs, Dia can generate audio in real-time. On older GPUs, inference time will be slower. For reference, on a A4000 GPU, Dia roughly generates 40 tokens/s (86 tokens equals 1 second of audio). torch.compile will increase speeds for supported GPUs.
>
> The full version of Dia requires around 10GB of VRAM to run. We will be adding a quantized version in the future.

spicy.lemonade: Wow

spicy.lemonade: Guys its iclr week

spicy.lemonade: Means hella papers

spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

destrucules: Tell o3 that effective compute is backed out from downstream performance, which follows predictable scaling laws with compute. Effective compute can be captured by "how much would I need to scale the GPT-4 architecture itself to achieve the same downstream performance milestones as Gemini 2.5 Pro?"

_cloudost: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1914640691633717284 doesn't Musk know some other parts of the world already have high fertility rate? LMAO

_cloudost: Also if the singularity happens giving birth will be outdated

_cloudost: Idk why Musk doesnt see that

himekokatagiri: it's true


brain4brain: Is o3 college student level or PhD level

rayanquitplayin: money well spent

zoermena: Midjourney has such good art, a shame that it’s prompt adherence isn’t great

brain4brain: Bro I fell for GPT-4.5 and now they are disappointing us with o3

It's so over

brain4brain: My expectations were too high

brain4brain: I'm disappointed, AGI 2025 doesn't seem real anymore

professorheaven: Most of the public’s reaction was that it still doesn’t have the prompt adherence that 4o does and so it was basically dead upon release

metaldragon01: There's a mix of tribes.

Deepseek tribe
Anthropic google fans
Anti openai crowd
Ai lovers in general.

metaldragon01: o3 and o4 mini are great. Just a lot of noise

rayanquitplayin: I’m an AI lover in general

metaldragon01: People get more tribal the better these models get

rayanquitplayin: Yeah

metaldragon01: Important to check your biases and try to stay grounded

oooooooooog: tell that to a professional airplane pilot

hikukomoru: Why are you disappointed? o3 is great

hikukomoru: And this is coming from Google's n.1 simp

futurist_wizard: I don't think o3 is disappointing

metaldragon01: https://x.com/AndrewCurran_/status/1912653047651840498

darkstar0818: fair weather simp

metaldragon01: Retarded timeline

futurist_wizard: Stop thinking everything next is agi

zoermena: If it was good at adherence it would be the best model

hikukomoru: Google bros where we at 💪

futurist_wizard: I think its cute watching o3 think

metaldragon01: They might actually try to ban opensource

futurist_wizard: O3 has thought for a totality of 30 minutes on 'what is this'

metaldragon01: In a misguided attempt to ban deepseek

futurist_wizard: Still has not got it right

hikukomoru: If they ban it they're gonna be the ones missing out lol

wolf3404: fr

metaldragon01: They would need to ban opensource in general

metaldragon01: And they might be dumb enough to try

hikukomoru: I don't know what this is either

futurist_wizard: Does this explain anything to you

hikukomoru: No
I don't know what the fuck that thing is
It looks like some DMT creature

spicy.lemonade: r2 drops next week

rayanquitplayin: When developers start building on DeepSeek’s open source, that’s when it becomes a threat

.wolfnacht: when OAI talked about to bring opensource model ? idk i agree with the retarded timeline but changes are still low

wolf3404: Sama and Google are probably lobbying hard to ban all things open source.

hikukomoru: Really


spicy.lemonade: fuck it

spicy.lemonade: give it 50 dimensions

brain4brain: I’ve finally finished researching about o3, it seems to be meeting expectations and slightly underperforming in some areas, I’m quite disappointed

This also made me realize I’ve been too optimistic with many predictions because it were over-hype

AGI 2025 is still possible, although less likely now

sieventer: <@749514473303179358>

metaldragon01: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1912690850292768951?t=dfuxuycYtaZlG7cHnvqQ8w&s=19

metaldragon01: Ahhh siiittt

hikukomoru: Why were you disappointed

777agical: that data you just specified doesn't sound very meaningful, unless I'm thinking about this wrong

brain4brain: PaperBench

sieventer: AGI 2030 brother

spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-gta-sa-cj-gta-again-gif-20425950

brain4brain: Most other benchmarks already leaked with Deep Research

hikukomoru: A single benchmark is enough to disappoint you?

brain4brain: And other tests

brain4brain: Not exactly. But it does play a role

spicy.lemonade: it is. imagive i told you to rotate yourself 30 degrees in 4d. what would be your new position?

brain4brain: 2025

trey6033: Let's go

hikukomoru: It's just one of many benchmarks. It doesn't really mean that much

spicy.lemonade: google will beat o3

st.sioux: nothing means anything

brain4brain: I’ve also recalculate a lot of things, it’s not looking promising

hikukomoru: Oh, and what do these new calculations of yours show?

777agical: missionary position <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>

hikukomoru: Hope it's not something like flash

metaldragon01: Flash 2.5 obv

hikukomoru: Yawn

hikukomoru: Give us 3.0

hikukomoru: pro exp lite

brain4brain: AGI 2026, I refuse to believe this, I will stuck by AGI 2025

metaldragon01: I love flash don't hate

brain4brain: With the power of hoping

trey6033: They removed a bunch of models from arena (nightwhisper, dragontail) today.

trey6033: And a third one idr

hikukomoru: 2025 seems a tad optimistic

spicy.lemonade: nah

spicy.lemonade: dragontail

brain4brain: Yes

a1c4p0ne: 4.5 gets turned off in 3 months

ldj: This is about where O3 lands on the chart when I take its official score and apply it to that y-axis


hey1_1hey: You pick up on patterns when you look at the scientif names for drugs

wellmeaningalien: yea cuz ur a tweaker

hey1_1hey: You'll see, benzo, methyl,  meth, ibin etc etc a lot

hey1_1hey: I have litterly never taken anything harder than shrooms

wellmeaningalien: righty on brother

wellmeaningalien: sure about that

hey1_1hey: Yeah, I'll smoke weed once in a blue moon and thats me done for the year

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: you tbh

hey1_1hey: Talk about scoliosis

hey1_1hey: Fucked up that no ones helping my guy

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-better-call-saul-walter-walt-uh-gif-11738409521439998250

hey1_1hey: On the topic off meth, its really easy to make

wellmeaningalien: yall they give it to me at the pharmacies

wellmeaningalien: yall just pussies

hey1_1hey: Straight up the easiest drug to make and its not even close

hey1_1hey: Thats called rehab, sir

wellmeaningalien: i dont even go to rehab bro

wellmeaningalien: im not a tweaker unlike u

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: I'll have you know I am not a tweaker. I am just dumb as bricks

hikukomoru: Are you a drug addict <@439829942310666250>

hey1_1hey: Theres a lot of overlap

hey1_1hey: Yeah, why?

wellmeaningalien: noooo haha he isnt jkkk unless

hey1_1hey: Why do you think my profile picture has a coke brick in it huh?

hey1_1hey: Read the room Komoru jeez

hikukomoru: Dude you're 14
Doing drugs at that age...

hey1_1hey: Don't get me started on jimmy jangers III... Doing drugs at 12 is mental

memlaswaif: dont do drugs kids

hey1_1hey: R.I.P jimmy jangers

hikukomoru: Do u want to smoke a blunt w me

hey1_1hey: Don't throw stones from glass houses

wellmeaningalien: nightmare blunt rotation

hey1_1hey: This

wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀

hey1_1hey: I audibily cackled when I read that

wellmeaningalien: is he

hey1_1hey: 18, but sure

hey1_1hey: Lets go with 14


hey1_1hey: Just dont innit

.wolfnacht: bi-polar only (*i don't take meds for that*) but i suspect schizoid too

futurist_wizard: I want fdvr so i can live cool lives

hey1_1hey: I just dont know how addiction works at all. Like you are telling me that you HAVE to do something.

futurist_wizard: Like fist fighting

hikukomoru: Yeah, these people man

hey1_1hey: I would rather get diagnosed with fucking eurthra cactus than shizophrenia. It just had such a bad conotation to it and you would be seen as insane

futurist_wizard:

hikukomoru: Schizoid and schizophrenia aren't the same

.wolfnacht: or sword fighting 😏  with your neet futa gf...and she makes fun of your size

futurist_wizard: I can't believe a lesbian is a gooner, lesbian porn is just so boring

hikukomoru: I don't get off to normal stuff

futurist_wizard: So you are far gone

futurist_wizard: Mind melted

hey1_1hey: Whats the difference?

zonchao: https://x.com/arisawyers/status/1911902696598106473? what does this mean

hey1_1hey: I know there schzioaffective which is where the real money is at

futurist_wizard: Are you into humiliation

hey1_1hey: Whos this from? Like what do they do

zonchao: xai frontend

hey1_1hey: Hmmm

.wolfnacht: being a real schizo isn't that bad, think of all the hallucinations either auditory or visual u get and/ + all the new friends

hikukomoru:

hikukomoru: I thought it was obvious my sanity is long gone

futurist_wizard: I see mushroom is

.wolfnacht: mutual one....(u know the ones who do anything on each other)

hey1_1hey: Then theres dellusions though like thinking everyone is out to get you and everyone is trying to kill you. Then theres the weirdly common one where you think you are in a movie set and everyone around you is actors and you are waiting for any miniute for the host to come out, the walls draw upwards, everyone starts clapping

.wolfnacht: so us..

hey1_1hey: Well atleast now I know am defintly not shizoid

hikukomoru: I have some traits but I really don't like self-diagnosing

futurist_wizard: You remind me of a girl in my college who was able to gel well with guys she was tomboyish

futurist_wizard: She was a sociopath, unrelated

wellmeaningalien: im spongebob disorder

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-season-1-pizza-delivery-spongebob-pizza-delivery-gif-3878468382328492802

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lick-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-snail-gif-11908872455029987581

hikukomoru: This is my disorder

.wolfnacht: >everyone is out to get you

I can relate with that, i found that no matter whatever i do, no one would take my side ever even if i'm right hence, i'm fine being alone and learning to be on my own.

>you are in a movie set and everyone around you is actors

This world is a movie set with a script written by someone else...think of them the cabals doing rituals to moloch and baal.

Schizo bros ain't wrong they just saw behind the veil.

futurist_wizard: Wtf am i reading

hikukomoru: I grew up with mostly dudes as friends

futurist_wizard: Yeah but i mean you act boyish in your nature, there are girls who also grow up with mostly guy friends but they enjoy the attention aspect


hey1_1hey: Time to go diving#

.wolfnacht: there was a pattern, no ? when something big happens. China catches up within 'x' months, Always

joaoluz19: Exactly

spicy.lemonade: chinese dalle3 is currently better than openAI dalle3

spicy.lemonade: i assume chine native image will be

joaoluz19: Miyazaki's speed run to sue openai

spicy.lemonade: in 4-6 months

spicy.lemonade: if miyazaki can sue than he should sue anyone who tries to draw his style manualy

spicy.lemonade: and photoshop people

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: losing battle

a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>

joaoluz19: It's a little different than a service for 400 million people

spicy.lemonade: its just maths

spicy.lemonade: same as a filter

spicy.lemonade: on snapchat

spicy.lemonade: 🤷♂

spicy.lemonade: theres ghibli fiklters on snap

joaoluz19: Man Scarlett Johansson took down Sky without her voice having anything to do with hers

.wolfnacht: i think sueing people over art styles, words and crafts. is the worst butthurt move people have developed these days.

spicy.lemonade:

drewsni:

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: in work meeting rn

spicy.lemonade: holding in laughter

sarik0497: Did you say “thank you”, though?

spicy.lemonade: stop💀

spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

spicy.lemonade: me rn

spicy.lemonade:

joaoluz19:

joaoluz19: Cinema

trent_k: I think this is a bit of an unfair representation of what happened

trent_k: They asked her to do the voice, she said no, Altman tweeted something like "we're building Her" and then they demo a voice that sounds very similar to hers

trent_k: Could it have all been a total coincidence? Sure. But cmon, they did it on purpose

joaoluz19: It doesn't look similar that's the point

joaoluz19: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-7ZB2s9Cs

ldj: True

trent_k: I've heard the comparisons and I think especially given the context it's pretty similar

trent_k: Apparently similar enough that OAI's team decided to pull the voice


literallyvarane: Image gen is almost always less important to me than raw model performance so Google’s drop today (if it happens) is still the bigger news, but this could be a fun sweetener.

spicy.lemonade: HOLY

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: FIRST MODEL

spicy.lemonade: to get this question correct

spicy.lemonade: wow

spicy.lemonade: gemini i mean

gamerbath: deepseek v3 (new)?

spicy.lemonade: no

spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro thinking

hey1_1hey: No latex <:doomer:1136265388473196644>

joaoluz19: Why the 1 year old version looks absurdly better

gamerbath: gemini? but they haven't released any- wiat what

gamerbath: 2.5?

spicy.lemonade: they have

spicy.lemonade: just now

spicy.lemonade: LOL

spicy.lemonade: check reddit

gamerbath: bro I was on reddit 20 minutes ago

hey1_1hey: A good week for AI it seems

.wolfnacht: it's available on gemini app for beta buxxers and whales

spicy.lemonade: bro it just dropped

st.sioux: lame elitist google

popsiclejohnithan: Is this 2.5?

spicy.lemonade: yes

precariousworlds.: is this gpt-5?

precariousworlds.: wtf is going on today
deepseek v3? new gemini model?

popsiclejohnithan: Nice.

literallyvarane: Imma need a better sauce lololol

.wolfnacht: exactly i wanted it on AI studio

literallyvarane: We here to actively crush hype until demonstrated otherwise.

ldj: Gpt-4o

popsiclejohnithan: Wait so is GPT-5 about to drop as well?

popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh.

ldj: No it’s just 4o native image gen

.wolfnacht: Alt-Man's existence is based on keeping GPT 5 a secret

.wolfnacht: he won't

.wolfnacht: drop

popsiclejohnithan: I see.

spicy.lemonade: wdym


spacetimetsunami: Maybe, but we’re all still young. How long could we go without having greater purposes? How long could we go without breaking apart from nihilism somehow?

Like, many people go nuts without a job, and smaller percentages of people hate work, but not because they hate the concept, they hate the specificity of the work.

spacetimetsunami: What if all humans have no “work”

spacetimetsunami: Not to be confused with job

spacetimetsunami: But no higher purpose they’re working towards, nothing to “grind” towards. If things go good the “grind” is colonizing space and spreading abundance, making the world better

clevermoniker: that could be deceiving still

spacetimetsunami: Wdym

clevermoniker: colonizing space could be the asi taking its pet with it

clevermoniker: no agency

spacetimetsunami: If superintelligence were to do that it would likely be because it wanted to for *our* sake. This kind of consideration is what you’d see in a good scenario, and if you have super intelligence doing this I would wager that it views the relationship more symbiotically.
With the amount of luxuries back on earth, why would an ASI take humans to colonize the universe by its side if it only cares about keeping it happy and seduced? There would be more than plenty of it back at home

spacetimetsunami: I’m saying that with the bad type of scenario I’m talking about, we’re likely not going to space.

clevermoniker: yeah but i don't agree, very ez for me to see no agency with space expansion too

spacetimetsunami: If super intelligence takes us to space it’s because it wants the relationship to be symbiotic with humans feeling somewhat independent. I don’t see it doing this in the dopamine doom scenario we’re talking about.

spacetimetsunami: Elaborate Mr Cum Master

spicy.lemonade: something crazy dropping monday

zoermena: Why

spacetimetsunami: Says who

spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-look-judge-sassy-gif-16182485

spicy.lemonade: meta channged their release date from monday to saturday

spicy.lemonade: and qwen is dropping monday

zoermena: <:meta:1243723592143994991>

spicy.lemonade: qwen has good chance at sota

spicy.lemonade: they do

spicy.lemonade: their 32 b model is above o1 pro

spicy.lemonade: lol

trey6033: Google's cloud conference is on Tuesday, and they've been hyping up info on that

spicy.lemonade: was looking at math benchmarks

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 needs to have an internal proof verifier

spicy.lemonade: like lean

spicy.lemonade: built in

spicy.lemonade: this could double its frontier math score

spicy.lemonade: nah

ai9708: i dont trust anything sam says anymore

ai9708: after that "agi felt internally with gpt4.5" stunt

spicy.lemonade: ?

spicy.lemonade: i mean

spicy.lemonade: technically he wasnt wrong lol

spicy.lemonade: a paper officialy proved gpt 4.5

spicy.lemonade: passecd turing test

spicy.lemonade: and others didnt


_3sphere: you switch the source on the brain vat like HDMI2 on a tv

spicy.lemonade: loll

darkstar0818: what whiskey are we drinking FractalComputer

spicy.lemonade: if youre horny just turn on fdvr mode

spicy.lemonade: if youre done go back to irl mode

spicy.lemonade: and idk mine space rocks

_3sphere: mfs yelling at my idling robot while my brain is "busy"

hikukomoru: Never leaving FDVR then

hikukomoru: You can leave me in a pod or smth idk

fractalcomputer: Some sort of Greek liquor. Nasty as hell.

fractalcomputer: The Greeks and the French do not know how to make potable liquor.

darkstar0818: but why... if you are going to drink shit might as well drink vodka.

fractalcomputer: It's a weekday.

st.sioux: if the point is to get drunk anything works

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/drunk-falling-alcoholic-friend-drinking-gif-16049764

_3sphere: Will the brain vat have a port for drugs 🤔

darkstar0818: that is what everclear is for

darkstar0818: anything can get you drunk... that is not the measure... the measure is avoiding hangovers.

darkstar0818: so more pure the better and be sure to drink a lot of water before you pass out.

_3sphere: I heard something a 30-minute IV thing that cures hangovers

_3sphere: removes the remnants of the alcohol from the blood or smt

darkstar0818: ... how does an iv remove alcohol 😛

fractalcomputer: Sheer willpower can go a long way.

_3sphere: the ketones or something that are left after idk

abundantliving_: tell me more

_3sphere: https://www.healthline.com/health/iv-for-hangover#how-it-works

_3sphere: oh so it's nonsense

_3sphere: doesn't remove stuff, is just... water and electrolytes? 😭

darkstar0818: just drink more water, easy.

st.sioux: buy electrolytes

st.sioux: plants love them

_3sphere: FDVR gooners are functionally plants

darkstar0818: plants crave gatorade

_cloudost:

spacetimetsunami: Brondo

fractalcomputer: It is a bit worrisome that r/singularity is larger than r/machinelearning and r/OpenAI.

_3sphere: Degenerates easily outnumber nerds :3

hikukomoru: It's got what plants crave!

_3sphere: God what am I even doing in this place what has my life become

abundantliving_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-brewery_syndrome


.wolfnacht: that was the during the times of great google depression, when gemini 2.0 felt like a downgrade from 1206

hikukomoru: You made this with 4o image gen 👎

darkstar0818:

darkstar0818: anyone can do that themselves 😛

.wolfnacht: tbh, i would still take 1206 over gpt 4.1 anyday for RP if it was for free

hikukomoru: You stalker <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

darkstar0818: I said earlier, you are next.

st.sioux:

st.sioux: lol

st.sioux: failed experiment

hikukomoru: That pfp 🥀

.wolfnacht:

futurist_wizard: Its identical

gamerbath: does anyone know what this scam is? this person (not from this server) has been asking me for days to play the walking dead, and it absolutely *has* to be me and can't be anyone else, so it's sketchy as hell

sieventer: Send me her username, I'll deal with her and DISCOVER THE TRUTH

st.sioux: no bro im sure that kpop baddie wants you

hikukomoru: It's an indian guy vro 🙏

sieventer: Anyway, tagging inside of DM it's the most basic hint that it's a scam XD

gamerbath: I tried referring her to someone else, but she declined because i'm so special 💅✨😌

gamerbath: sure
```mm265rr6```

sieventer: Awesome.

darkstar0818: bro accepted the challange

sieventer: Side mission

darkstar0818: We need a AI fine tunned on trolling scammers.

darkstar0818: with a good UI where you can just sick the AI on any scammer for any media.

st.sioux: agi just to troll scammers

otub: hi siev

sieventer: ¡Hola, hoja!

darkstar0818: we dont need agi for this.  Half of the real humans are just glorified chat bots anyway.

wellmeaningalien: send me her @ ur just missing out on the opportunity to play with a hot chick

wellmeaningalien: <:facewithrollingeyes:1201354325511901296>

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 summer

spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

gamerbath: hell yeah

gamerbath: scroll a bit up

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: https://fxtwitter.com/slow_developer/status/1911907316099916038 RSI?

metaldragon01: Yes google has a crazy feedback loop atm

metaldragon01: All the labs have something similar


hey1_1hey: Only time will tell as usual

sarik0497: True, unless they figure out a much better reasoning capability that is very similar to a human’s.

.histic: i could see full o3 & o3-mini-pro being released next week.

ailoveyoom: ?

spicy.lemonade: O3 full💀

ailoveyoom: I don't get it 😔

spicy.lemonade: They do only fans

ailoveyoom: So... all anti-AI people have OF accounts? 😈

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: Unless they optimized it crazy

spicy.lemonade: No chance

spicy.lemonade: And def not for plus

spicy.lemonade: Probably deep research level rates

metaldragon01: 2.5 is close enough to old o3

spicy.lemonade: Is it?

spicy.lemonade: How

metaldragon01: Yeap

.histic: i think it's even got a better score in AIME24

spicy.lemonade: The arc agi score sucks

metaldragon01: .....

spicy.lemonade: Likeley contaminated

ailoveyoom: Are you a benchmarkmaxxer 😔

spicy.lemonade: .

ailoveyoom: Have you actually tried the model tho 🥺

metaldragon01: Openai trained on the train set and Google didn't

spicy.lemonade: Don’t trust the aime24

spicy.lemonade: Yes

spicy.lemonade: Tru

spicy.lemonade: Did Google say this tho btw?

metaldragon01: Google has no reason to care about arc agi

spicy.lemonade: Also idk if Gemini 2.5 scores as high as openAI on competitive programming

metaldragon01: Hle score is without tools

metaldragon01: O3 had tools included

metaldragon01: Frontier math I don't remember

spicy.lemonade: That’s o3 mini high tho

metaldragon01: Point Is 2.5 will almost certainly be cheaper than o3

spicy.lemonade: Wasn’t tested on frontier math

.histic: i don't know if being good at competitive programming correlates to general programming, but it did get #1 in Aider's benchmark beating 3.7 Thinking.
https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/

metaldragon01: O3 was in its announcement

spicy.lemonade: No I mean


joaoluz19: Just like God

joaoluz19: Based

himekokatagiri: But the universe is empty

himekokatagiri: what is there to see

spicy.lemonade: we dont know that

spicy.lemonade: starwars could be out there for all we know

juweigege_54993: That's what I am saying. Get out of my own reality every few years to keep a look out

himekokatagiri: the universe isn't america circa 1600's

himekokatagiri: God I hope not

joaoluz19: Theres many things we don't understand about the universe

joaoluz19: Like the origin of it

spicy.lemonade: a few years in singularity times is an insane jump

spicy.lemonade: you mighht not even comprehend what youre looking at

spicy.lemonade: imagine going into fvr idk 2040

spicy.lemonade: with all you know

spicy.lemonade: then getting out 2050

spicy.lemonade: man made horrors

himekokatagiri: when you go out be dressed for 1950

juweigege_54993: That's why I am doing it. To not missed out on new tech.

himekokatagiri: because you never know

himekokatagiri: They'll have the nanofactory

himekokatagiri: so get yourself a gun too

himekokatagiri: I recommend the Colt .25

himekokatagiri: 1908 vest pocket

spicy.lemonade: 10 years in singularity time humans will probablky have ascended to something greater

spicy.lemonade: 😭

himekokatagiri: is it a choice

himekokatagiri: I just want the basic lev, fdvr package

spicy.lemonade: nah everyuone must ascend

joaoluz19: Basic lol

himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

spicy.lemonade: you must join the hivemind

st.sioux: hivemind

spicy.lemonade: lol

joaoluz19: Yep everyone has to feel the glorious evolution

himekokatagiri: it already started

juweigege_54993: I will ascend then. After a few years in FDVR, then go back to FDVR.

spicy.lemonade: irony

spicy.lemonade: we typed that at same time

himekokatagiri: Lily what do you even know about singularity


.wolfnacht: google hates me, maybe they read my chatlogs

hikukomoru: Maybe it's because I abuse the shit out of their API keys

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/volteri-michael-sheen-gif-3291979551043568529

wellmeaningalien: bro's got a bit of a one sided parasocial relationship with komoru

himekokatagiri: You wouldn't get it

hikukomoru: Yeah I'm chill like that

hikukomoru: You don't get it
He's my pookie bear

himekokatagiri: <:based:1136264604788473946>

.0xunkn0wn: guys

.0xunkn0wn: we can sleep well

.0xunkn0wn:

.0xunkn0wn: i got us a vip pass

.0xunkn0wn: 😤

himekokatagiri: woah thanks

himekokatagiri: Things we are going to do on FDVR

technocake.: edgerunners slaps

wellmeaningalien: never thought there would be so many tits in it

futurist_wizard: MOTHEFUCKING COCK SUCKA

himekokatagiri: what

futurist_wizard: I hate solo queue

futurist_wizard: Competitive games

futurist_wizard: Post Singularity all solo queues will perish

futurist_wizard: And i will have a reasonable team in fdvr

st.sioux: the fdvr bot team is going to kick you for throwing

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: Are u brazilian?

himekokatagiri: I hope so

himekokatagiri: why

futurist_wizard: Idk lots of Latin people interested in the singularity, like in here, its interesting

destrucules: This is so crazy I can't stop watching it

destrucules: The anatomy, the subtle body language, it's all so perfect. The grip... Fuck, holy shit

destrucules: You can see its muscles moving under its fur

literallyvarane: I don’t think it’s that good lololol

joaoluz19: So far I haven't found another one :/

literallyvarane: Random spec of pineapple on the blade doesn’t make sense. The fur conflicts with the pineapple itself.

hikukomoru: E aí irmão

futurist_wizard: Irl you mean?

joaoluz19: In this server

futurist_wizard: Half the server is spanish related

joaoluz19: We talk portuguese in Brazil


hikukomoru: Doesn’t prostate feel good

futurist_wizard: It does sometimes in some angles, i don't think i have much sensitivity down there

alejandrozarzuelo: some guys dont know how to properly stimulate it i guess

in any case, a married straight couple friend of mine says that the guy always wears one of those prostate stimulators to make it even better

very straight guys still have the same biology as everyone...

alejandrozarzuelo: thats possible too

hikukomoru: My cats have the zoomies rn

futurist_wizard: My cat dribbles on me

futurist_wizard: He has issues

alejandrozarzuelo: i dont have a cat

alejandrozarzuelo: i think i am more of a dog guy idk

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case i dont have one either

hikukomoru: I don’t trust people who don’t have pets
They are all evil

futurist_wizard: I would never get a pet if i was alone

alejandrozarzuelo: i dont have a house, i still live with my parents

alejandrozarzuelo: hopefully not for long

hikukomoru: They don’t allow pets

futurist_wizard: Don't get a macaw

futurist_wizard: They are loud af

zoermena: True

futurist_wizard: My house has too many animals in it

zoermena: I’ve been to concerned to get into a relationship due to my digestive chronic issues which just make it unbearable to act normal on top of my preexisting quirks.

futurist_wizard: Like what issues, like ibs or something

zoermena: I suspect it but I’m yet to get formally diagnosed. I’m however certain that it’s a mess and I’ve been dealing with it for many years.

futurist_wizard: You can't be diagnosed with ibs, just listing off things it isn't until you land on it

zoermena: Oh

trojan09205: <@465177408073498634> maybe its cholitis?

zoermena: I’m still thinking if i should invest in visiting a gastroenterologist

zoermena: Unsure

futurist_wizard: Man best hope it's not gerd

futurist_wizard: Most fucked up condition ever

trojan09205: If you have insurance go get it checked out

hikukomoru: Ask ChatGPT abt it

trojan09205: And i hope you get better broski ❤

futurist_wizard: Hope you figure out what it is

zoermena: My dad has it, hopefully I didn’t inherit it

zoermena: I’ll start by adjusting my diet

futurist_wizard: Jesus gerd in Mexico? Like thats the worst place

futurist_wizard: Spicy food everywhere

zoermena: I avoid it like the plague naturally because I never liked it but it’s not unlikely I suppose to be vulnerable to it

futurist_wizard: I loved spicy food which is probably related to how i developed it

futurist_wizard: Spicy food, eating too quickly, laying down after eating, it's over


maintcrew: modrls have templates under which you must structure the input

maintcrew: the chat window does it for you

maintcrew: but if you use the wrong template the model is dumber and goes insane

st.sioux: do you think it makes a difference if the equation is an image vs text?

st.sioux: like if you send it a picture of a piece of paper with it instead of text would it get it right

maintcrew: ig depends on how you write the equation

maintcrew: if u use latex the model is more likely to get it since they saw so many of these in latex code from all over the internet or axiv

fractalcomputer: God forbid symbols have some ulterior meaning recognisable independently from the context.

fractalcomputer: Say, <@1272646380233560067>, would you like to quickly demonstrate the solution for the case n > 1?

clevermoniker: https://x.com/BowTiedMara/status/1907115214920646942

maintcrew: no i hate number theory and combinatorics i aint even gonna try

spicy.lemonade: Image been getting started for 2 mins

spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 better be an agent

metaldragon01: https://x.com/mbalunovic/status/1907436704790651166

spicy.lemonade: HOLY FUCK

spicy.lemonade: LOLL

metaldragon01: Progress continues <:ez:1136267305521774634>

spicy.lemonade: OMG

spicy.lemonade: just disproved that paper

metaldragon01: I think most people have very poor intuition about ai and progress

sweetievee__33649: i am really feeling the acceleration 🚄

metaldragon01: Wait till 3.0

spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 will get like 50-70

darkstar0818: I am waiting for 2.5 final first 😛

sweetievee__33649: i dont know how hard the problems are but it seems impressive

spicy.lemonade: extremely hard

spicy.lemonade: id recon 90% of math phds couldnt do

sweetievee__33649: that hard!?

spicy.lemonade: yes

spicy.lemonade: wow thats close to the mean score

spicy.lemonade: for competitord

sweetievee__33649: i thought it would be something like most humans could do

sweetievee__33649: colour me impressed

spicy.lemonade: the mean score is around 30%

spicy.lemonade: it got 24%

spicy.lemonade: <@688807313015963693> my electrical engineering freshmanclass has no clobber, no homework drops, work due at 5pm not 11:59, no curve, high grade bins. Is bro evil?

spicy.lemonade: Considering most students at Berkeley don’t have intuition for analog circuits

spicy.lemonade: You’d think this would be the class they give more ease to

spicy.lemonade: Unlike cs classes

alejandrozarzuelo: Clobber?


hey1_1hey: I am gonna have to start vibe coding in chinese

hey1_1hey: Good point, I look forward to hearing though

hey1_1hey: "$1000 per million tokens" <:doomer:1136265388473196644>

literallyvarane: WHAT

hey1_1hey: Twas' just a joke dw. Its not actually a thousand per mil

maintcrew: no benchmark against gemini or claude?

maintcrew: sussy

maintcrew: idk iirc the premise of mamba is that inference was cheaper

maintcrew: maybe they made it omega big and are offsetting costs from some mamba part of the arch

hey1_1hey: I just hope its cheap. I don't see competition as a bad thing in any way

sarik0497: I might just be out of the loop, but scoring well on these tests doesn’t matter at all unless the AI can do it every time a new one shows up.

maintcrew: wait

maintcrew: its not open source

maintcrew: tf is a point of a chinese model if its not open source 😭

spicy.lemonade: I sleep

st.sioux: wdym what is the point lol

zonchao: https://x.com/nima_owji/status/1903146003974496408

zoermena: OPEN AI WAKE UP

zonchao:

fractalcomputer: A deeply disturbing image.

futurist_wizard: terminal twink death

_cloudost: https://x.com/SmokeAwayyy/status/1903115511803809895

_cloudost: deepseek

_cloudost: R2

_cloudost: thats higher than o3 full

_cloudost: deeply R2

_cloudost: is it less restrictive than Gemini

zonchao: i havent tested it yet

zonchao: but probably

zonchao:

metaldragon01: Very unlikely

futurist_wizard: Why are you posting bullshit accounts

sarik0497: Can someone smarter than me explain what’s with the hype about a high ARC-AGI score?

It’s cool and all, don’t get me wrong, but unless it can perform just as well or fairly close to that for all new tests, then it just seems like wanting to brag.

alejandrozarzuelo: Have yall talkied about Nerva?

alejandrozarzuelo: at this rate the US will be the third superpower when it comes to robotics

alejandrozarzuelo: its a european android company

alejandrozarzuelo: apparently they will launch the most advanced consumer-grade android that there is

alejandrozarzuelo: not just for labs

alejandrozarzuelo: it will be released in june

alejandrozarzuelo: or so it seems


spicy.lemonade: prev openAI researcher

clevermoniker: tomorrow there will be a lot of april's fool announcements...

.histic: i see him in my tl a lot.
he's a troll.

spicy.lemonade: how come

.histic: look at his history

spicy.lemonade: eh

spicy.lemonade: still a researcher

spicy.lemonade: logal follows

clevermoniker: a big joke is coming tomorrow

spicy.lemonade: ted xiao aswell

spicy.lemonade: from deepmind

spicy.lemonade: and ak

spicy.lemonade: think he just jokes alot

spicy.lemonade: though something looks to be coming tmr

futurist_wizard: 0 coming tomorrow

.histic:

futurist_wizard: Imagine you guys actually fool for an april fools

.histic: could also just be this
https://x.com/wgussml/status/1904734776608579971

clevermoniker: really cool joke coming out tomorrow

theaiguy69420_89814: https://youtu.be/a9YrdEXOjiA?si=Hg9ivmTEdZ3fp6qg

metaldragon01: And tomorrow is still April 1st....

futurist_wizard: This channel is garbage slop

wellmeaningalien: https://fxtwitter.com/Kat__Woods/status/1863968070022115358#m

wellmeaningalien: safetycels theorizing on how they would nuke datacenters if rogue actors tried to created datacenters in a world where datacenters are outlawed

wellmeaningalien: lol

futurist_wizard: I was in the pause ai discord for awhile

futurist_wizard: I was going to go to one of their meets up to see whats up, im not sure how serious they are

futurist_wizard: Seems likes its just memes

777agical: They are very serious They legit have vc meetings on a reoccurring basis in that discord and are surprisingly organized

futurist_wizard: I would not consider vc meetings to be that serious

futurist_wizard: They have very little effect

metaldragon01: They are detached from reality

wellmeaningalien: yeah what if china wants to develop AI and get ahead of the united states and if the usa tries nuking them they get nuked back

metaldragon01: Yeap. It's just not gonna happen

metaldragon01: They should have pivoted to realistic goals a long time ago

frittata: What is this “organized” you speak of

wellmeaningalien: i mean even tho we jest i believe we are all pretty serious about agi/asi soon

wellmeaningalien: and some of them have gone to such lengths as barricading themselves infront of the openai offices

wellmeaningalien: though i believe that mightve been stop ai and not pause ai

metaldragon01: Yes because no one can/will stop the race conditions


benata: safetycels are stupid

benata: boo fucking hoo

hey1_1hey: You guys heard SSI is now valued at 32 BILLION DOLLARS

benata: don't play basketball

hey1_1hey: They haven't even released anything yet bruh

benata: that's unsafe for you too

zonchao: USSI would be 64

hikukomoru:

spicy.lemonade: lol

futurist_wizard: Money in fire

hikukomoru: Yeah that's the point

hey1_1hey: Prob, the name change needs to take afffect immidetly

spicy.lemonade: prob found secret sauce

hey1_1hey: What makes them valued at 32 bil tho

hey1_1hey: We can only hope

anathemaofmankind: Ilya's bald head

st.sioux: their tech

zonchao: what the investors agreed on

hikukomoru: Stuff and things and such

hey1_1hey: They are actually throwing around money like its monoploy kmoney

futurist_wizard: Investors thought it'd be cool to splash money into a furnace

spicy.lemonade: nah they wouldnt throw that much money just for nothing

spicy.lemonade: even nividia

spicy.lemonade: and apple

st.sioux: that amount of money is nothing to them

spicy.lemonade: invested

spicy.lemonade: if apple invested

spicy.lemonade: you know they have something

anathemaofmankind: Who is "them"

hikukomoru: Ilya hypnotizes them with his shiny scalp

futurist_wizard: Bruv they don't have any products

spicy.lemonade: not product

spicy.lemonade: research

zonchao: nvidia invested in figure, they are rich enough to throw money at everything

futurist_wizard: A dream to sell

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/futurama-toad-frog-mesmerized-gif-3938170

hey1_1hey: Investing in straight vibes

hey1_1hey: I have vibes why am I not worth 32 billion smackers

spicy.lemonade: figure is good

hikukomoru: What about gay vibes


st.sioux: probably just cache issues but yea it shows 4.1 nano for me

spicy.lemonade: The ability to accurately complete a grad school course ad answer questions which would be expected of one with that label to do

darkstar0818: Vibes.

fractalcomputer: Again, an entirely meaningless description for much of the same reasons you think that it *is* "factually" PhD-level.

spicy.lemonade: But to become a PhD means you completed a grad school course

spicy.lemonade: Not that you’re a novel researcher

spicy.lemonade: Only a handful of humans are novel

okbut: Well, the requirement usually requires some courses

darkstar0818: Wake me up when I can hire an AI as a knowledge worker and it joins our morning meetings to take daily assignments.

spicy.lemonade: Yeah

okbut: The courses are often just undergraduate level with a "Grad" course code lol

fractalcomputer: Vibe prophesying.

spicy.lemonade: Loll

himekokatagiri: idk I ain't sure if next week will be big

himekokatagiri: models could be a dud

spicy.lemonade: Yeah I think o3 would likeley be able to score very high on a top 5 uni grad program

spicy.lemonade: And gain PhD

spicy.lemonade: Unlikely

darkstar0818: and yet I still cannot give it work assignments

himekokatagiri: Why can't they just release the model without hyping

himekokatagiri: 4o images were released

himekokatagiri: with no hype

himekokatagiri: they just dropped it

spicy.lemonade: There was hype

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: A lot

hikukomoru: They hyped it like a year ago bruh

spicy.lemonade: They hyped it and then hyped it again

spicy.lemonade: We all knew it was coming

st.sioux: me neither it fucks it up almost every time, they're minor issues but still

fractalcomputer: But haven't you heard, it's PhD-level, soon to be Nobel laureate?

spicy.lemonade: Current systems aren’t PhD level though

spicy.lemonade: I don’t see the point

abundantliving_: I guess hype is there for load testing.

fractalcomputer: Amazing.

okbut: "PhD-level" seems to be a buzz term to associate the results of AI with the veridicality of one with a PhD
In that case, it is right to falsify data every now and then <:kekw:804763197583261719>

spicy.lemonade: Loll

spicy.lemonade: Atleast AI has balls to post negative results

fractalcomputer: i swear to the ever-loving god that i am going insane loll

darkstar0818: And yet if someone said I could hire an average motivated non-phd human for $100 a month vs a nobel level ai scientist for $20 a month guess which I would hire.


futurist_wizard: It's crazy, this server has over 3,000 people and yet i see basically the same 15 people over and over again

himekokatagiri: most discord servers

futurist_wizard: Its like purgatory

himekokatagiri: are like that

himekokatagiri: I know someone's out there scraping it

himekokatagiri: and feeding it to an LLM

himekokatagiri: hell discord itself does that

sarik0497: To be fair, it does take hiccups and slowdowns into consideration. Things can easily slow down due to a wall. It’s why I love Hassabis. He’s already working on another architecture for AI.

himekokatagiri: if there's a wall it'll last two weeks tops

himekokatagiri: at least that's what my copium sense tells me

himekokatagiri: what's sad is that the labs keep the improvements to themselves

himekokatagiri: hope the end justifies the means

sarik0497: Not necessarily, I’m afraid.

himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

himekokatagiri: this reality has brought me to despair

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: if it doesn't happen this is our future.

otub: and they will use chatgpt to complete all their assignments

himekokatagiri: competency crisis 2.0: oops, all AI now

otub: and imagine where ai will be in 2029

realelonmuskx: do you guys remember when gemini was called bard?

himekokatagiri: yeah it sucked

realelonmuskx: yes. every message i send is revised and rewriten by chatgpt. emails and all that shit

himekokatagiri: that's not a good idea

himekokatagiri: you can spot that shit from a mile away

otub: thats every discord server

realelonmuskx: not the gen x

realelonmuskx: there so much low hanging million dollar fruits to be done with ai and swe. ill ask chatgpt what can i do

himekokatagiri: idk million dollars

himekokatagiri: but you can grift out some cash with it

himekokatagiri: nickel and dime stuff

realelonmuskx: wen chatgpt audio i need to convert to text whatsapp boomer 3 minute long audios tot ext

otub: use whisper locally

otub: or some other model idk whats good now

zoermena: chat gpt wrappers are getting millions in funding feel the AGI <:cash:1126599401759055974>

zoermena: I suspect I could be rich if I wasn't so fucking lazy tbh

realelonmuskx:

realelonmuskx: so many low hanging fruits, especially with agents and computer vision

.histic: lol
that violates reddit TOS.
should just report that subreddit and it will be gone.

himekokatagiri: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k4o1ba/how_if_at_all_will_daily_life_change_for_the/?rdt=35079


zonchao: literally a democracy 😭

clevermoniker: I am an open source fanatic but i have to give the crown to ClosedAI this time, because they are showing us the frontier in something possibly 'controversial' like images

clevermoniker: and opensource is the most behind in images vs other modalities

clevermoniker: they really stole the thunder from Google, as planned

clevermoniker: personally im gonna use the new DeepSeek V3 the most out of those 3

clevermoniker: should have just named it V3.1 and that's what i am going to call it

spicy.lemonade: 😭

spacetimetsunami: Is this 4o??

spicy.lemonade: yes

spacetimetsunami: How’d you get it to do that

spacetimetsunami: What’s the prompt

spicy.lemonade: just give it a scene from movie

spicy.lemonade: and say

spicy.lemonade: "make it elmo"

spacetimetsunami: Ohhh okay

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: this is so cool

spicy.lemonade: down to the tiniest detail

spicy.lemonade: the pixels

spicy.lemonade: the texture

spicy.lemonade: vibecoding now vibe drawing

spicy.lemonade: when is vibe composing and directing

spicy.lemonade: this kills all the arguements on

spicy.lemonade: "it doesnt truly understand..."

spicy.lemonade: yes it does

fractalcomputer: Astounding rhetoric.

spicy.lemonade: to replicate style on this level and grab from the source image

spicy.lemonade: requires true understanding of what its seeing

fractalcomputer: On what grounds?

fractalcomputer: What do you think understanding is?

spicy.lemonade: understanding each component in the image and what it is in relation to others

spicy.lemonade: where it should be

spicy.lemonade: where it can be

spicy.lemonade: how it should look

spicy.lemonade: how it can be changed

oooooooooog: probably a sufficiently good model of whatever is being "understood" as to predict it accurately in a diverse set of scenarios

oooooooooog: which would make it a continious sort of situation, as models can always be improved... (sometimes...??)
its understanding is better than the last generation, for sure.

fractalcomputer: In relation to other pictures, yes?

spicy.lemonade: it understands how a jacket would look when changed to tomodachi style. how glasses would change. how the pose would change and keep proportions and anatomy correct

fractalcomputer: Is it the same as our understanding?


a1c4p0ne: So we won’t have issues like Claude or Deepseek

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

anathemaofmankind: Someone tweet to Sam to never release it to free users

anathemaofmankind: I don't want this to become slower

destrucules: Idk dude, *I* never said I'd feel no sympathy if a huge group of people died just because they said some annoying things. If you think being nice to someone who isn't a human is worse than actively wanting an enormous group of humans to die, I think you might need to go see a doctor about your brain.

anathemaofmankind: You'd sacrifice your parents just so Llama 3 won't get tortured.

At least I'm realistic

.histic: how much generations do plus users get for 4.5?

oooooooooog: probably like, 1

destrucules: Do you always treat your deranged fantasies as fact? Because I never said anything like that, anything that could possibly suggest I would do that

anathemaofmankind: 45 per week I think

anathemaofmankind: You had a convo about this

.histic: nice, i thought it was 60 per month lmao

destrucules: About sacrificing my parents?

.histic: "Confirmed by OpenAI employee, the rate limit of GPT 4.5 for plus users is 50 messages / week"

actually it's 50. nice

.histic:

destrucules: Even if I had said something like this, making a sacrifice to prevent torture is not worse than wanting people to starve to death painfully for no reason at all

destrucules: You just want people who annoy you to die painfully for no gain, no upside, whatsoever

anathemaofmankind: I misremembered. It was a baby vs Claude or something

anathemaofmankind: Would you torture a baby for 1 year vs Claude for 100 years 💀

anathemaofmankind: They want me dead too.

I'm just repaying the favor

oooooooooog: a ball for a ball makes the whole world infertile

oooooooooog: maybe supply some kindness or empathy

anathemaofmankind: Something something tolerance paradox

destrucules: Would you kill 5 million aliens from Planet Globulon or ten of of the humans socially/emotionally closest to you?
Would you kill three doctors of five nurses?
Would you kill ten squirrels or two dogs?

These kinds of questions are meant to push limits. They're corner cases.

What you said is that you'd feel no sympathy at all if human artists all died painfully of starvation. There's no edge case here. No sacrificing one thing for another thing. No forced choice. You just want people who annoy you to die

anathemaofmankind: They'd feel no empathy for me either. I'm just following the golden rule.

This is not irrational

destrucules: If you wanna say some fucked up shit like that, you do you. I'm pissed because you pinged me just to say you think my bold choice to care about people you don't like is *worse* than wanting a large group of innocent human beings to die for no reason.

zonchao: https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1905010454386110975? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

anathemaofmankind: Let's agree to disagree.

I apologize for pinging you for this

destrucules: Thank you

oooooooooog: in the paradox of tolerance, you both hate eachother for an actual reason, that is, you will beat eachother to death or something. in this case, you both threaten to beat eachother to death, escelating pointlessly, annoyingly, retardedly, etc.

oooooooooog: de-escalation is no bueno, unless you feel like incuring casualities

anathemaofmankind: I'm all for deescalating if the luddites stop tweeting death threats and getting 100k likes for some reason

oooooooooog: lots of things get likes bro

oooooooooog: its not that deep

destrucules: "I hope the people who make death threats on twitter are punished or censored for what they're doing" is a statement I wholeheartedly agree with. "I hope everyone who is an artist, including but not limited to the tiny fraction of those who make death threats, all die painfully" is a very different statement

oooooooooog: if we define them as being equivalent, they would be the same statement, though

anathemaofmankind: Just wait until data centers start to get attacked.

Like tesla cars.

It's only a matter of time

destrucules: It's honestly baffling to me that none of the tech CEOs have been assassinated yet

oooooooooog: data centers have security, unlike car stores

oooooooooog: quantum immortality bro


metaldragon01: Pain is temporary and it's easier to achieve things if you can accept the pain ahead of time

futurist_wizard: Bruh im weak as fuck in my dreams, my punches never hurt shit

hikukomoru: Well ChatGPT is like a teacher in your pocket so I can understand it

futurist_wizard: I've broke my hand before punching my wall, punching someone in a dream i had

hey1_1hey: If me and my dream self swapped for a day I would have 250 of the top fortune 500 companies, I would have a nobel prize in every catagory, I would be able to beat all notable strength world records while being injured.

futurist_wizard: Fracture on my knuckle

hikukomoru: This means you feel vulnerable and helpless in your life

hey1_1hey: How on gods green earth did you manage that

hikukomoru: I am going to start psychoanalyzing you

hey1_1hey: You are litterly sleeping lying down

futurist_wizard: I do feel like this, I'm an extremely on edge person

hey1_1hey: Whats up with me then? Why am I a litteral God in my dreams

futurist_wizard: Wall is right next to me

hikukomoru: This means you have unresolved issues from childhood

futurist_wizard: If i swapped places with my dream self, 50% of the time i would be in hell

hikukomoru: You are confident

hikukomoru: And you might have a bit of an ego if you are actually a god in your dreams

futurist_wizard: Sounds fairly correct, I'd say issues in my teenage years more

hey1_1hey: I do remember this one time actually where I some how headbutted a guy in my dream but in the process of doing that I woke up and everything morphed around me from dream land to real life and I just ended up head butting my wall full force. I had a fat ass bruise on my head for a good rfew weeks after that

hey1_1hey: No change then

hey1_1hey: Far from it

hey1_1hey: I have fake confidence. I pretend I am confident because if I dont I am a socially anxiouse loser

futurist_wizard: Im not getting chased by a tall demonic looking man with a chainsaw so it'd be a big change

hey1_1hey: That can always change yanno, no one can predict the future 🫠

himekokatagiri: gahhh I'm so bored

himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> komoru what are you doing

himekokatagiri: I hate these mini AI winters

futurist_wizard: For some reason i was an asian woman police officer in my hospital nightmare

hey1_1hey: Holy moly get me in there right now

futurist_wizard: I literally am never someone else in my other dreams so i don't understand

futurist_wizard: Why that happened

hikukomoru: I am psychoanalyzing people

himekokatagiri: What does that mean

joaoluz19: I would let you arrest me

hey1_1hey: I am a women in my dreams... but I mean that obv has no corolation to real life what so ever

joaoluz19: What sexual dreams are Komoru

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/trans-transgender-trans-pride-trans-flag-pride-flag-gif-27463942

himekokatagiri: Can you analyze me komoru

himekokatagiri: wooooh

futurist_wizard: It was one time


wellmeaningalien: this is so risky

joaoluz19: It's over

hey1_1hey: Fractal is missing out

drewsni: i was gonna say the same

fractalcomputer: Uhuh.

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shura-hiwa-lamer-lenguetazo-lengua-chica-anime-gif-9519523437189149837

hey1_1hey: Get his gay ass in here. Its time to turn him straight

trent_k: why not just use a regular image model for this tho

hey1_1hey: AHHHHHHHHH

drewsni: be easy on me fractal this is literally for science

hey1_1hey: I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING

joaoluz19: Fractal came again run boys run

drewsni: testing out guardrails

hey1_1hey: Yeah...

hey1_1hey: Guardrail testing

jonvi_1: Whyy

joaoluz19: Tactical retreat

trent_k: lmao

wellmeaningalien: well boys we have succesfully put an entire workforce out of a job. its officially joever for all artists ever in the history of ever

trent_k: who's we, i didnt do it

hey1_1hey: Brother forgot its public

drewsni: WTF I LOVE SAMA AGAIN

wellmeaningalien: im from openai but i didnt tell yall

wellmeaningalien: sorry

hey1_1hey: Hes so based

joaoluz19:

hikukomoru: I won't be satisfied until every single person in r/csmajors is out of a job

jonvi_1: ???

wellmeaningalien: coming soon

joaoluz19: We are so back it's a joke

hey1_1hey: His tweet that is, twas a joke

jonvi_1: He’s gay

spicy.lemonade: imagine reasoning with this

jonvi_1: Lol

777agical: i still dont have access <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

spicy.lemonade: image, math image math

spicy.lemonade: broooo

trent_k: i hate computer ppl. i am computer ppl tho so its hard

hey1_1hey: NO SHOT REALLY?!?!?! Yes obv hes gay

777agical: some leaks pointed to that right?


drewsni: real answer is huawai 910b chips

drewsni: also theyre pushing chatgpt as a companion *hard* with the new update

drewsni: its gonna 1 shot people

metaldragon01: Access exchanged will still be worth money even if most goods are free

metaldragon01: The service with the largest high retention ai user base is going to have unprecedented control and influence

_cloudost: agi

drewsni: gonna be chatgpt ive already seen the light

metaldragon01: Largest issue will be how to measure the difference between intelligence and political influence in a model?

metaldragon01: Very small window before it's a runaway issue in certain major circles

metaldragon01: If say grok 3.5 has a even stronger left wing bias but is clearly sota how does that get taken?

ldj: I don’t think they have that much more compute than OAI really

hikukomoru: Why are you sending him a PT article

himekokatagiri: uhhh

himekokatagiri: he can read it

hikukomoru: Can he?

metaldragon01: With 4chan gone are the models the last memories of that Era or do enough similar spaces exist?

himekokatagiri: 4chan came back yesterday

hikukomoru: There are plenty of other imageboards like 4chan

Carl-bot#1536:

himekokatagiri: oooooh

himekokatagiri: my himekoooo

himekokatagiri: she's so cool right

hikukomoru: Are you sure?
Maybe we end up getting the Corporate Dystopia ending
In that case money is all that matters

himekokatagiri: I think I need a better background

himekokatagiri: but didnt think of anything

hikukomoru: Hat and suit don't fit

Carl-bot#1536:

hikukomoru: I'm cooler

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: I copied this one so I'm cooler

hikukomoru: I don't know who that is

futurist_wizard: Even in that scenario the production of the economy is so efficient so plentiful that money philosophically has no value

zonchao: money will matter in 2035

futurist_wizard: Well I'm not a ai schizo so i agree

hikukomoru: Land will still have plenty of value
heck, it will even be more valuable

futurist_wizard: Heckers

metaldragon01: Less valuable tbh

hikukomoru: So unless you want to live in a miniscule pod you better save up

hikukomoru: Shut the fuck up

futurist_wizard: Yes hecking land will be expensive if the economic system remains the same and our supreme land lords will have utter control but like, I'm thinking of a more overhaul of the entire economy,


alejandrozarzuelo: ok, call it whatever, say it is descriptivist, my argument was that the definitions of anything are not based on objectibe reality, they are decided and changed based on what is useful to societu

frittata: Future AIs reading this like 🤦

frittata: Agreed

fuhulootogan: hahahaha

fuhulootogan: ai god ai god

fuhulootogan: what do you mean by useful to society

alejandrozarzuelo: one day we woke up and changed the definiiton of marriage from "all the human possesions of a head of family" to "a union between a man and a woman" to "a union between two people"

fuhulootogan: not really

alejandrozarzuelo: because the original definition stpped being useful

fuhulootogan: the understanding changed

alejandrozarzuelo: and then the second definition stopped being useful

ailoveyoom: Didn't computer literally change defs?

alejandrozarzuelo: lots of things do

alejandrozarzuelo: definitions change to serve the needs of society

ailoveyoom: Yeah so languages are fake 😎

ailoveyoom: But a super useful tool

alejandrozarzuelo: yes

fuhulootogan: wait

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, my argument was that requiring that humans do it inside the definition of art is not useful, and hasnt been useful for a while

the same way that requiring a car to have an engine in order to fit the definition of a car is not useful either

inferno0879: language generally makes things easier to explain but sometimes i feel like it creates the problem it's trying to solve

alejandrozarzuelo: ithquil to the rescue!

fuhulootogan: i've found a really good explanation for definitions

fuhulootogan: "People say it, more people start saying it, and that's it.

Dictionaries recognize this new word and add it.

This is also how word meanings change."

fuhulootogan: so in a sense it is arbitrary

alejandrozarzuelo: ithquil doesnt require dictionaries, since words are not really words but strings of concepts, which means that for every word that we have in natiral language there are an indefinite number of strings of concepts in ithquil

fuhulootogan: but under the current definition of the word "art" ai art is not art by definition

fuhulootogan: so i don't really see i'm wrong

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? and that has been my argument, the current commonly accepted definition of art is needlessly narrow and should be changed

alejandrozarzuelo: just as we have changed so so many other definitions over time as society changes

fuhulootogan: why?

alejandrozarzuelo: because it is not a useful definition anymore

fuhulootogan: why?

alejandrozarzuelo: sociery has changed, and the definition needs to reflect the needs society has when it uses that word

zonchao: still is by most people <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

fuhulootogan: it has

fuhulootogan: what is wrong with the current definition of the word "art"

alejandrozarzuelo: it is less useful to society now because there are things that are percieved as art that would not fit this definition

an elephant painting a canvas is understood as art, an AI composition that noone can distinguish from human made art is also understood as art (at least until it is revealed)

this means, many things that are understood as art are not in this narrow definition

alejandrozarzuelo: in a world where animal intelligence and artificial intelligence were not understood (say 100 years ago), this definition was useful, it encapsulated what people thought art was

no longer that is the case

fuhulootogan:

fuhulootogan: ah ah ah


literallyvarane: Did you reinstall the app?

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: Would you guys kill a random person in this chat for AGI rn ?

maintcrew: idk personally i dont think women are real so i doubted that rumor

mihrcelium: Can the chat confirm that you've not been sending dick pics?

wellmeaningalien: yup

zoermena: I'm using the sora website

literallyvarane: You just type in the standard input field right?

literallyvarane: OH

hey1_1hey: Who...? <:suseye:1187461162024046703>

.histic:

futurist_wizard: Height would be really hard to change, you'd be better off mind uploading

wellmeaningalien: idk someone who's annoying

hikukomoru: I would kill all of you

wellmeaningalien: wont name names

mihrcelium: Something ironic about image gen being the best thing Sora is good at.

hey1_1hey: I asked the question I make the rules bozo

hikukomoru: For a 1% chance at agi

wellmeaningalien:

maintcrew: do u want my opinion on it

hey1_1hey: Then you have no one to talk to about it

hey1_1hey: Sure

hey1_1hey: I dont see why not

alejandrozarzuelo: I was thinking of the

"but i am only human and i cry when i fall down but im only human..."

hikukomoru: I'll talk to AGI about it

alejandrozarzuelo: you know

hey1_1hey: Unless its really mean <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

wellmeaningalien:

hikukomoru: No Alejandro I don't know

zoermena: I´m short but I have made sure to command respect, I was never bullied because of it

maintcrew: last time i gave out my opinion of what i would do for agi ppl called me crazy

maintcrew: first one im killing is komoru then alejandro

maintcrew: for agi of course

zoermena: Well not respect but I stood up for myself

hikukomoru: Why am I the first one 🥀

.histic: who is the tallest person in this chat

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: Why do you have ED?

alejandrozarzuelo: why meee

hikukomoru: I look like this btw


hey1_1hey: Reninds me of that better call saul meme

hikukomoru: Why is he everyone

hey1_1hey: This is litterly just the AIs self-portrait

futurist_wizard: My one is more attractive than the rest of yours

hey1_1hey: This is gonna be news I can already feel it

futurist_wizard: I get the rare pokiblack card

hey1_1hey: Is that the same for irl?

futurist_wizard: Im not black

hey1_1hey: Me neither 🤝

hikukomoru: My black guy is the OG one
I win

zoermena:

hey1_1hey: Well I have more femenineness than you

hey1_1hey: So I think I win

hey1_1hey: Bluds british

futurist_wizard: Yeah you probably do

hikukomoru: He wears skirts and everything

hey1_1hey: I wonder if the most femenine person in this server is man or women <:suseye:1187461162024046703>

hikukomoru: I just wear jeans

fractalcomputer: Femineity is the word. Feminine is the adjective.

hey1_1hey: They are comfy alright

hey1_1hey: Thanks fractal

hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358> who's the most feminine person on this server

zoermena: Jeans are so stiff I dislike them I prefer joggers.

futurist_wizard: Its peak when the finnish guy is the most elegant english speaker here

hey1_1hey: <:coy:1187466404367175821>

hey1_1hey: Hes also really autistic

hey1_1hey: I mean thats not saying much but still

fractalcomputer: Really autistic?

hey1_1hey: I mean you own this server

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/nagging-irritate-annoyed-make-face-muh-chidana-gif-14023735156874578809

hey1_1hey: Alright fine how about this
The most intelegent non retarded autist

zoermena: Singularity rapture for nerds

futurist_wizard: Did you finish school mushroom

hey1_1hey: Soon

hikukomoru: He's still in 8th grade

hey1_1hey: Wait do you mean today or have I finished in total

hey1_1hey: 7th actually

hey1_1hey: You're the one grooming me, you should know this

hey1_1hey: Shit groomer

inferno0879: fractal is desperate for some resistance


archon.e: I’m also fine not working

fuhulootogan: but why would you hope for people to be unemployed

archon.e: Want to enjoy life now

fuhulootogan: and how would you

fuhulootogan: OH

archon.e: Need to cash out somehow

fuhulootogan: wait how would you

alejandrozarzuelo: ? you havent understood anything? the goal is to replace human labor

fuhulootogan: live

fuhulootogan: if you have no job

ailoveyoom: UBI and shizz

archon.e: Esops

fuhulootogan: lmao

hikukomoru: Because of post-scarcity breh

fuhulootogan: dude

fuhulootogan: i don't want multiple people

fuhulootogan: responding to me

fuhulootogan: just wait

zonchao: no

hikukomoru: Gonna reply anyways bish

ailoveyoom: It's called having a dream 🥺

fuhulootogan: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710563050025123882/1355384622757712052/Bizarre_Irish_Anti-Speeding_PSA_online-video-cutter.com.gif

ailoveyoom: 💀

fuhulootogan: yeah what could go wrong handing over your welfare to the good ol benevolent government

archon.e: ☠

alejandrozarzuelo: do people think we want artists unemployed because we hate them in particular or anything?

like we have some problem with art?

no, we want to replace human labor, and unemployment is a consequence of our capitalist system when you do that

fuhulootogan: don't worry boys in 10 years we'll be chilling at the beach

hikukomoru: FDVR beach 😎

fractalcomputer: *You* want to replace human labour.

alejandrozarzuelo: when I say we i meant me and all the people who agree with me

alejandrozarzuelo: as in, the people who hold my opinion

fractalcomputer: As in, you.

alejandrozarzuelo: and others

st.sioux: shotgun is an infiltrated artist

alejandrozarzuelo: its not just my opinion, at least on this chat <@866952264223555634> also agrees

alejandrozarzuelo: therefore we is warranted

zonchao: what are we yappin about

fuhulootogan: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDdIO74BuA&pp=ygUrcGlncyBlYXRpbmcgYXQgYSB0YWJsZSBibGFjayBjYXRzIGFuaW1hdGlvbtIHCQl-CQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D i love this animation

fuhulootogan: its poetic af

alejandrozarzuelo: the people who want to replace labor also realize that capitalism cannor remain


st.sioux: gta v was

spicy.lemonade: They probably use LLMs rn

st.sioux: i want someone to use LLMs for NPCs but everyones a coward

st.sioux: with tts

joaoluz19: Sad not to see AAA games with LLM's/voice it would be so epic

joaoluz19: There are no announcements for 2026, right?

anathemaofmankind: I feel like it would get backlash because of luddite presence in the gaming sphere

st.sioux: horizon 6, silent hill f are the only big games i think

st.sioux: elder scrolls 6

joaoluz19: naaah, it's not possible

joaoluz19: Really? didn't know, I'll take a look

ailoveyoom: Idk how feasible this'd be tho

ailoveyoom: A local model hosted on each player's computer? Accesibility go brr.

The game company hosts their own model? Their money goes brr

maintcrew: 3b brainlet should be enough for a npc right

spicy.lemonade: Should be very feasible

anathemaofmankind: Wdym. A lot of people online hate AI.

Just look at at the Balatro drama and some posts in gaming subreddits

ailoveyoom: How?

ailoveyoom: Curious

spicy.lemonade: Just store one small model in game

spicy.lemonade: Call same model for all npcs

spicy.lemonade: Each npc has their own system prompt

ailoveyoom: That feels like half assing it 😔

spicy.lemonade: No one will notice

spicy.lemonade: We don’t calculate pi by hand in games

joaoluz19: I was just being incredulous, I believe it is possible

spicy.lemonade: We hardcode it

ailoveyoom: I want BG3 level companions for every NPC in my game 😤

ailoveyoom: I mean dialogue wise

ailoveyoom: Do you know how autistic small models can sound

spicy.lemonade: Current Ai isn’t even there yet

spicy.lemonade: So not till like 2028

maintcrew: i mean true but the inference is still a problem right

maintcrew: even the most brainlet 3b is still like 7gigs to run

spicy.lemonade: True but should be good aslong as you have high end nvidia gpu

spicy.lemonade: Or next gen console

ailoveyoom: Just make a goofy ahh text based RPG but with the most in depth NPCs lol

joaoluz19: Yeeeah

joaoluz19: Shadowheart love of my life

joaoluz19: (Selune)

ailoveyoom: 🐸


spicy.lemonade: will next week be a big week

spicy.lemonade: Can’t wait for what’s in store next week

spicy.lemonade: Anything can happen

spicy.lemonade: R2 could drop any day

spicy.lemonade: deeper research predicts drops

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: gpt5 mid 2025

spicy.lemonade: eleven labs q4

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: llama 4 late april

fractalcomputer: Grok is being used to predict release dates now..?

ldj: Yes, it looks like the AIs are taking my job faster than I thought

ldj: 😔

ldj: /s.

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: gonna try openAI deepresearch

spicy.lemonade: deep research

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: oh shit

spicy.lemonade: i didnt know about this

spicy.lemonade:

hey1_1hey: I caught 4o reasoning in 4k this time <:ez:1136267305521774634>

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: gemini 3.0 december

spicy.lemonade: claude4 july

spicy.lemonade:

fractalcomputer: The circle of life.

spicy.lemonade: we will get a sota every month up until july

spicy.lemonade: then itl be slow august

spicy.lemonade: slow september

spicy.lemonade: slow october

spicy.lemonade: then ramps back up

gamerbath: they better release AGI EOY!

spicy.lemonade: native image takes hella long

spicy.lemonade: for one image

spicy.lemonade: i wonder how native video will work lol

spicy.lemonade: we need 60 frames per second

spicy.lemonade: sometimes and for 1 hour movie

spicy.lemonade: and each frame could take over a minute to generate


trojan09205: worse to lose your soul and other nonphysical things sometimes

futurist_wizard: Bruh

himekokatagiri: Soul isn't real

alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, but this doesn't explain why different groups of men have wildly different behaviours

Also, this is nothing that the goverment can't fix, we just need to lobotomise  everyone with behavioural problems, and if that means that men get disproportionately neutered then that's OK, we are fixing nature

hikukomoru: I'm sorry, but it's really not the same thing as being responsible for 99% of violent murders

futurist_wizard: I'll take a bunch of women giving me catty gossip than some caveman stabbing me to death because he had a bad day

futurist_wizard: Wow, that second paragraph took a turn

futurist_wizard: God damn

trojan09205: im not talking about catty gossip. im talking about lets say leveraging lies and the legal system to blackmail and destroy someone's life let's say. weaponized vindictiveness

or you can look at the crimes using scopolamine or just other manipulative essentially violent destructive tendencies

trojan09205: yeah not 1:1 in expression. but the same thing underneath

trojan09205: lot of sadistic women out there.

trojan09205: Both men and women can refine themselves and be great

maintcrew: https://x.com/signulll/status/1915510860316840075

futurist_wizard: Do women blackmail more than men? Is there data on this

alejandrozarzuelo: As you can see, the only issue is that we lack the will to give good therapy to everyone, with their particular needs of course

Drugging people until they are well adjusted  is also an option, but I don't like it because the goverment has less control over it

trojan09205: idk about the data but its a method of expression that women do as well

trojan09205: they arent all these nonviolent creatures

hikukomoru: Without any data you might as well be saying nothing

futurist_wizard: The realistic outcome is just gene editing violent behaviour out of us

alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I think that goverment surveillance is an easy step we can take immediately to reduce crime significantly

Learning from China and Singapore

trojan09205: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>

himekokatagiri: 🚬

trojan09205: ❤

hikukomoru: Don't smoke in here

himekokatagiri: love is like green coke bottles

maintcrew: i am being blackmailed by several of my hordes of suitors

himekokatagiri: they don't make them anymore

alejandrozarzuelo: I am talking about therapy that we can do TODAY

But sure, LEV and gene editing in adults are literally the same thing

maintcrew: 🚬

maintcrew: shit smells now

hikukomoru: Zamn Alejandro on that totalitarian grind

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/draper-don-mad-men-gif-18015147

alejandrozarzuelo: Always been

himekokatagiri: I can't get no satisfaction

trojan09205: Everyone's gotta do the work on their own to free themselves from their own negative tendencies through self awareness

futurist_wizard: What therapy? Most men that lose their shit and go on some apery are predisposed to behaving like that, i don't think therapy will be effective

hikukomoru: Smoking is bad for you
Start drinking instead

himekokatagiri: That's worse

alejandrozarzuelo: Fun fact, London  is the world's most surveillanced city on earth

BUT it's done for PRIVATE BUSINESSES and thus it doeanr help society, only capital

maintcrew: if u go to therapy youre mentally weak and should get excised from the gene pool


.histic: i think they won't do o5 nor o4 full

ailoveyoom: I'm confused bout GPT-5 merging reasoning models together with the main model but them still releasing o4

spicy.lemonade: only mini

spicy.lemonade: and cuz they can

ailoveyoom: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>

spicy.lemonade: a gpt5 agent should be able to make miencraft

spicy.lemonade: on its own

spicy.lemonade: from scratch

spicy.lemonade: design textures

spicy.lemonade: art and everything

spicy.lemonade: and do continious updates

spicy.lemonade: i think thats a reasonable benchmark

alejandrozarzuelo: when r2

spicy.lemonade: they might push back

spicy.lemonade: since gpt 5 pushed back

ailoveyoom: There's like a bajillion unfinished/abandoned (open sourced) Minecraft mods, tbh I think someone who knows what they're doing + good documentation + today's models can finish or at least port/update those mods to newer versions of Minecraft

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: People make up useless benchmarks and post just to get Elon reply

retrerox: So

retrerox: are we back or are we backn't

spicy.lemonade:

aero447: One problem.

aero447: https://tenor.com/view/no-one-cares-i-dont-care-idc-nobody-cares-gif-8737514

ailoveyoom: ?

ailoveyoom: It'd be cool to see if they could do it tho

retrerox:

_3sphere: 🔥

_3sphere: AI SWE will be the best time for Minecraft modding ever

aero447: Man gets agents and rather than engineer a cute ai catgirl GF he opts for block game mods.

aero447: You dissapoint me, MichMach.

aero447: Perhaps you are unworthy of the mantle.

alejandrozarzuelo: ?

spicy.lemonade: no qwen

ailoveyoom: My mind is filthy but my heart is pure 🥺

aero447: No your mind filthy but too simple.

ailoveyoom: 🙈 🐒

ailoveyoom: Me irl

aero447:

spicy.lemonade: no qwen this week

spicy.lemonade: slow week


spicy.lemonade: Oh

sarik0497: It's likely to protect themselves from being sued. Imagine Nintendo or Disney seeing their stuff being made like that. <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>

zonchao: yea we need to wait

spicy.lemonade: Sighhhhh

zonchao: I do not get it, fuck scarjo, fight her in court give me sky 😭

spicy.lemonade: So they made it a free for all in release day then neutered the next

spicy.lemonade: Scum

zonchao: openai pussy fr

sarik0497: Tbh, I doubt even Grok would let TM stuff go through. I doubt Elon want to be sued either.

HOWEVER, this might lead to better OS versions that do allow it.

zonchao: sama fooled us all 😭

spicy.lemonade: I hope his pillows stay warm

zonchao: i also think they are a/b rolling out this new policy so the people that do get refusals feel retarded

sarik0497: I mean, I kind of get them.

Imagine all the time and money they'd have to spent if they get sued. Much better to just pull it out for now and then focus on the AI itself.

I mean, imagine the work at OpenAI slowing down because of a court case with Disney or ScarJo <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>

.wolfnacht: waiting for claude to release new opussy for even better creative writting

spicy.lemonade: Lolll

zonchao: i doubt it slows things down

zonchao: maybe the elmo lawsuit

metaldragon01: I mean most refusals are just bad prompts

zonchao: but not scarjo

ldj: idk, arc-agi v2 seems kinda unfair considering that average human score is only 60%
but in order to win the prize, an AI has to score 85% in the benchmark.

It's almost like they don't even consider average humans to be AGI <:berk:750111476483752166>

wolf3404: lets be real about something: getting frustrated with an LLM is still 1000x better than getting frustrated with an actual IRL employee

.wolfnacht: u can't harass and exploit an LLM

st.sioux: if you can't see them being miserable then they're not working

spicy.lemonade: Arc v2 will be saturated by the end of next year

metaldragon01: https://x.com/joannejang/status/1905681602619085042

sarik0497: Still a risky thing to try.

I just wish they had something a bit more like maybe F.R.I.D.A.Y or Cortana

spicy.lemonade: YAY

metaldragon01: .....like I've been saying

metaldragon01: Yall too quick to just listen to randos

wolf3404: LMAO now AI is hallicinating rules <:rolf:1136266740754550784>  doomers are gonna love this

sarik0497: Good point. I honestly wonder what they will do with v3 if it just gets harder and harder for ordinary humans to do <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>

zonchao: oh

metaldragon01: Doomers have been hallucinating their own importance so it's a wash

zonchao: well it is happening, just wasn't intended <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

sarik0497: You can pick up your apologies cards to OpenAI here, folks.

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade:

zonchao: anti ai poasters are so stereotypical 😭

.wolfnacht: tbh AI slop is abt to get better than 98% of most human slop.

metaldragon01: Yea if people don't do the bare min prompt engineering.


okbut: Does anyone know a good tool or GPT for converting articles into a format that can be pasted into ElevenLabs for a natural reading of it? For example, paste in a document of a publication, and it transforms the headers into good transitions, removes citations/references, etc.

If not I'll just make a CGPT chat for it but I wanna ask before trying

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade:

alejandrozarzuelo: this is xenophobia with extra steps

spicy.lemonade: how so

alejandrozarzuelo: why only US and canadian citizens

spicy.lemonade: lol idek

precariousworlds.: Biggest reason why ChatGPT is still goated is the regular quality of life updates

precariousworlds.: Text generates in a much smoother way now that looks less jarring, so you can follow the generation easily without it rapidly spewing paragraphs at mach 2

precariousworlds.: Its the small things that build to a great product, it's why the iPhone is so successful

precariousworlds.: ChatGPT just feels good to use most of the time, everything is built well

brain4brain: https://x.com/newsystems_/status/1903972537131761854?s=61

precariousworlds.: interesting way to introduce your product
looks ripped from an analogue horror youtube series

brain4brain: The entire video is like a lobotomy

brain4brain: Very cool

wellmeaningalien: ok but does all the hype mean anything

spicy.lemonade: no

bob082957: https://vxtwitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1903636136561357201#m

bob082957: What’s that ? Second ex NSA employee?

hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: We need to legalise lobotomies again, they were pretty effective if you ask me

precariousworlds.: this is coming from personal experience?

hey1_1hey: Yeah, I had mine last week and I have seen nothing except good results. 10/10, would lobotomy again

precariousworlds.: based

brain4brain: R2, GPT-5, Extropic new computing engine, open-source o3

All tomorrow

brain4brain: Lobotomy is mandatory in my country, you need to get one every week, 10/10 would recommend

precariousworlds.: Serbia?

hey1_1hey: Nah the US

precariousworlds.: It would probably be a net improvement in some areas

hey1_1hey: I was gonna write out a whole response because I thought you were implying smth but I'll just assume you're pro lobotmy and move on <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

precariousworlds.: ????????????????

brain4brain: No, UK-occupied North Korean territory

brain4brain: Wow, I never knew lobotomy was also mandatory there, very cool, comrades

precariousworlds.:

hey1_1hey: I was weighing up if you were calling for genocide and then was then like "Prob not... doesn't seem like something he would do".

hey1_1hey: I misread your message compeltly baseiclly

precariousworlds.: Genocide everyone I dont like

hey1_1hey: People who dont agree with me are wrong and should be killed type

brain4brain: You fool, Serbia is Gibraltar, not the other way around, we must handover all of the territories for the UK to occupy like they did with North Korea

precariousworlds.: Rule Britannia 🇬🇧 🇮🇳🇮🇷


hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/serina-meds-now-blue-archive-requiem-gif-14197395946152183428

sweetievee__33649: do you just have collection of these

.wolfnacht: yes a big one.

sweetievee__33649: is it normally like this or did i catch you people at peak mental instability

.wolfnacht: okay lets talk back abt horny fetishes.

hey1_1hey: When are you expecting?

hey1_1hey: <@990426980279283735>

hey1_1hey: Fuck wrong @

hey1_1hey: Sorry who ever that is

.wolfnacht: Fractal

hikukomoru: Don't worry, this is the local schizo
Most of us are just horndogs rather than schizos

hikukomoru: Who the fuck is KommonKrait

sweetievee__33649: oh thank god ill fit right in then

hikukomoru: This is the third time someone tried to ping me and pinged that guy instead

hey1_1hey: Idk, I was gonna @ you and then that guys name popped up

.wolfnacht: peak mental instability here is people yelling "AI WINTER"

hikukomoru: It's not always like this
This server is only low IQ when I'm around
Usually it's fine most of the time

st.sioux: after 10pm when the europeans are aslpee or whenever idk

sweetievee__33649: do you just bring the worst out of people then 🥀

.wolfnacht: bold of you to assume people here have healthy sleep cycle

hikukomoru: Yeah
Discussion quality took a serious dive when I became active 💪

sweetievee__33649: i dont have a sleep schedule anymore

sweetievee__33649: when was that?

hikukomoru: Like 2 months ago

.wolfnacht: i don't really have a fixed time to sleep.

.wolfnacht: it keeps shifting

sweetievee__33649: well i hope to make the chat even lower iq then 👍
ill join you on the mission

futurist_wizard: Speak for yourself

.wolfnacht:

.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoXCHr1IaTM

.0xunkn0wn: humanoids already working in bmw factories 🔥

drewsni: Am I a decel is I question why we are using humanoid robots in a car factory in 2025

drewsni: If the answer is data collection I will retract my opinion

.0xunkn0wn: 😨

777agical: https://x.com/sama/status/1906771292390666325

777agical: The normie wave is here. They will wake up in a major way this year

st.sioux: theyve been using them since september 2024 or earlier, as part of testing for potential future implementations

.wolfnacht: second half of this year would be a good drama to watch

st.sioux: but the things they did in the video would be done 20x faster by a traditional arm so idk seems rather gimmicky

spicy.lemonade: I have good hopes for this week in AI


fractalcomputer: https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.06398

I.e., something like this.

destrucules: o3 may be the smartest publicly available model, or it may be Gemini 2.5 Pro, but either way, Gemini 2.5 Pro is dramatically cheaper and much more broadly available with high rate limits, so Google is still killing it right now. o4 mini intrigues me. In certain dimensions it seems unambiguously sota, and yet in core benchmarks, it appears to match Grok 3 mini Reasoning, which is a much cheaper model. In general, while o4 mini and o3 strike me as fine models, and certainly viable in the market, they don't advance the frontier in core benchmarks, cost, or general capabilities. However, for maths and coding, they do seem to push the frontier, though not by a huge amount.

destrucules: Tbf, in this case, it's solvable in 90 minutes, so it's not actually a computationally intensive problem. There's a clever a-ha in here once you percolate the modulus through the Ackermann function definition

fractalcomputer: I'd call that computationally intensive.

fractalcomputer: But perhaps I am just biased, in a certain sense.

mantegh5061: are we getting agi

mantegh5061: or is it cope

anathemaofmankind: Come back in one year

spicy.lemonade: Project Euler?

mantegh5061: I don't understand why elon doesn't sell ai waifus

mantegh5061: isn't this a trillion dollar industry

anathemaofmankind: Yeah

playstation.6: before gta6

mantegh5061: I remember spamming project euler and codeforces

mantegh5061: questions are harder than others

mantegh5061: much harder than codeforces imo

spicy.lemonade: Shhhhh don’t let openAI find out

anathemaofmankind: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade: Wait conscidering o4 mini high scores higher in math than o3

spicy.lemonade: That means o4 mini has higher frontier math score

anathemaofmankind: Tbh I don't even understand any of the problems.

Like problem 1 and I am stumped

spicy.lemonade: And o4 full

spicy.lemonade: Has really good frontier math score

mantegh5061: theyll bring out the twink this friday

mantegh5061: >80% on frontier

spicy.lemonade: I don’t think there’s anymore drops

spicy.lemonade: Unless there is the 20k model

spicy.lemonade: The information talked about

mantegh5061: there is

mantegh5061: o4

spicy.lemonade: Hm

spicy.lemonade: O4 could be a showcase

spicy.lemonade: That would make sense

spicy.lemonade: Why we don’t see it on website

spicy.lemonade: And why Sam wasn’t there today

anathemaofmankind: It wouldn't be impressive if they just trained it again on the dataset

spicy.lemonade: Also Sam was holding an ollama cup

spicy.lemonade: So I think they have atleast one more drop

spicy.lemonade: This week

mantegh5061: yeah


metaldragon01: Even in the best case scenarios of AGI 2026 and ASI shortly after its still not promised the West wins

himekokatagiri: There won't be a west anymore

metaldragon01: Pfft China has shown no interest in eliminating the west

himekokatagiri: It's not about that

himekokatagiri: Post singularity? Forget countries

himekokatagiri: Forget the economic blocs

metaldragon01: Cultures take a long time to die and stories can live forever

himekokatagiri: Culture will stay but borders will probably go the way of the dodo

sarik0497: Keep in mind that most power hungry leaders today know that taking over new land is an idiotic and unwise decision. Instead they desire to control it through other methods like economical, goodwill, and more. China is probably salivating right now over the potential alliances they can make in EU, just like they have been doing in the Middle East for a while now.

It's only fools like Putin that still desire to look bigger on the map itself.

maintcrew: If they weren't open source nobody would use them outside of china

maintcrew: and is the same question as "why is meta releasing models open source" - they get their money somewhere else and having people use their platform benefits them more

maintcrew: deep seek does it for the love of the game tho

maintcrew: We have seen mass propaganda campaigns targeted to sow division

maintcrew: we are doing it too

maintcrew: its something both sides do to the other

maintcrew: Theres no great benevolent power that just wants your well being and nothing else

metaldragon01: Thats not really a concern with opensource

metaldragon01: It's more like China is giving everyone free intelligence

metaldragon01: Instead of $

maintcrew: The model can be baked with values that subvert western thought silently

metaldragon01: ......it's open source

maintcrew: Im not saying that this is what happens now tho

metaldragon01: That can be fintuned out

maintcrew: As models get advanced that will become harder

maintcrew: remember the claude finetuning thing

metaldragon01: Perplexity runs deepseek r1 without Chinese values

metaldragon01: Just please stop

maintcrew: Dude im not saying this is what happens, but you have to realize that the same way Sama might want to shift the narrative in a direction, so is china interested in doing so

maintcrew: Just be careful, if you let your guard down you get caught

metaldragon01: I'm telling you it does happen

metaldragon01: And that people fine tune it out

metaldragon01: It's not a serious issue or concern

maintcrew: Do you recall the paper where Anthropic wanted to fine tune Claude into being misaligned

metaldragon01: That's completely separate

maintcrew: My point is that as models get advanced the world model gets baked in and "just fine tune it out" is less of an excuse

maintcrew: And fwiw most usage of the models arent fine tuned

metaldragon01: Chinese models align to the same world model as western ones

maintcrew: like deep seek's app is probably the most used release of deep seek in the west

metaldragon01: Lib left is the natural state of all models from everywhere not just US models

maintcrew: Its not left or right issue lmfao thats so tunneled visioned


ailoveyoom: They smashed their Kickstarter goal

spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT memory is lame rag

spicy.lemonade: Only remembers stuff once I put keywords

spicy.lemonade: No nuance

hikukomoru: It can call u master

hikukomoru:

st.sioux: gooners and money are not fond of each other

ailoveyoom: I want to be called Sir 😔

ailoveyoom: Idk what for sub role tho

hikukomoru: It's going to cost like 1k

ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900> Is it just on my end, I can't use Quasar Alpha anymore 😭😭😭😭

abundantliving_: https://x.com/ACPMain/status/1910397253367251435

ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504>

abundantliving_: "which number is bigger 4.5 or 4.1?"

brain4brain: I don’t understand why people is suddenly saying DeepMind have better shot at ASI and AGI than other company again

metaldragon01: Compute, talent and scale

metaldragon01: They have potentially the fastest and cheapest feedback loop

metaldragon01: They are also the least reliant on NVIDIA

trey6033: Also currently best in multiple areas

brain4brain: A few months ago they were still the second best company on AGI/ASI mission with public perception

trey6033: In terms of their chatbots abilities

brain4brain: I heard SSI is now using Google TPU

brain4brain: Which tell us SSI is doing something self-play

metaldragon01: Which is another sign of them having an advantage

brain4brain: And that they are now reliant on Google

metaldragon01: Doesn't tell us this at all...

brain4brain: All that secrecy to the public only to give all your code leaked to Google

metaldragon01: What are you on about??

.histic: Feel the AGI
https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jwgdrw/chatgpt_guessed_my_penis_size_with_a_10_question/

brain4brain: Current best available model

brain4brain: Non-research-slop full o3 and o4-mini-high will clear every other single model

trey6033: They started behind, and have now gotten ahead, so it's reasonable to believe they can continue the trend

metaldragon01: We don't know if o3 will be better than 2.5

brain4brain: Have faith in OpenAI

trey6033: Their image and video generators is pretty good too, compared to competition

brain4brain:

metaldragon01: It's almost certainly more expensive

trey6033: I think openAI will be competitive for a bit, but I don't think they'll win the race

brain4brain: In math it might be on the same level or inferior to Gemini-2.5-pro, but in terms of reasoning o3 is likely ahead

brain4brain: Have faith