aero447: Studying the one skill that would be outdated first.

aero447: Waste.

aero447: Of.

aero447: Time.

aero447: 🤣

aero447: Four hours...

fractalcomputer: Suppose one would like to paint; would you ridicule him for that desire?

fractalcomputer: The absolutely overwhelming majority of mathematics has nil impact on the practical world as such and can be considered as a peculiar form of art; and its study a purely self-indulgent function.

aero447: Four hours too many, learn to dance, learn to play an instrument, learn to limbo and mix drinks, to speak sweet nothings into the ear of your lovers, wasting time on these pursuits dooms you.

aero447: It's a viable career economically.

aero447: That;s why most pursue it.

aero447: Leave that lie behind and embrace the samba.

fractalcomputer: Did you know that some Sufi traditions understand there to be multiple "natural" Korans, i.e. the revelation of God in creation?

hey1_1hey: Yeah?

hey1_1hey: Is that bad...?

ailoveyoom: Do you study math for school or for fun?

hey1_1hey: For fun

hey1_1hey: Don't skull emoji me bro 😭

fractalcomputer: Retard alert.

hey1_1hey: Yeah you tell him fractal

aero447:

ailoveyoom: Even for someone who sucks at maths, what little popsci videos I've seen draw a very cool picture 😍

aero447: You studied maths, MichMach studied the blade.

hey1_1hey: I am retarded anyway and I got the learning ability of a stone but I still make an effort

ailoveyoom: Bruh you mathmaxxed for 4 hours

ailoveyoom: You smart 😡

aero447: Waste of time the sea and sands and samba calls to you.

hey1_1hey: I've done that for 10 weeks

hey1_1hey: Absolutly not, if you had a conversation with me you will quickly realise I have no idea what the fuck I am talking about

hey1_1hey: How can a hobby be a waste of time? Better yet, a hobby that improves ones thinking

ailoveyoom: So you use random YT videos and or internet resources?

aero447: 10 weeks you could have spent learning latin and pleasing large Moroccan women under the stars.

aero447: You are not living.

hey1_1hey: I khan academy max, I will do algebra 1 and 2, then trig, pre calc, calc 1 and 2 then go to stats and then linear algebra, differential equations etc etc

hey1_1hey: Bryan Johnson ass hater reply

hey1_1hey: Yanno Aero if you just don't have self discipline you can just say that.

aero447: It is time to start learning how to dive and exploring nature's bounties before the machine God awakens and steals them from us like Prometheus stole fire from the Gods.

fractalcomputer: You're no better than a preacher delivering fire-and-brimstone sermons on the street.

fractalcomputer: Tell me, Aero, what do you value in this life?

hey1_1hey: Or... I could continue learning maths because Its fun


spacetimetsunami: wouldnt it have to have agency

spicy.lemonade: Make asi give every human immortality before this happens

spicy.lemonade: 😭 🙏

st.sioux: immunity to explosions and fire will be a tough one

spicy.lemonade: Give everyone Deadpool abilities

.wolfnacht: i've played it in closed beta and then never touched, idk i hate grinding these days...maybe i'll wait for project mugen and new arknight to come around.

connorsphone.: Wait out of curiosity

Can someone who has access to the new image gen put in a screenshot of arc-AGI and ask it to generate a solved image

spicy.lemonade: And or forefields

spicy.lemonade: Force fields

spicy.lemonade: That stop high velocity objects from reaching them

spicy.lemonade: I did. It won’t get it

spicy.lemonade: It’s 4o

st.sioux: ive never watched deadpool, what happens if someone like puts a bomb inside of him

anathemaofmankind: There's no reason why AGI will refuse to follow its creators.

Imagine Grok 5 being used for drone attacks

spicy.lemonade: 4o is naturally bad at arc agi

anathemaofmankind: It's a lot better now

anathemaofmankind: It's practically a whole new game

spacetimetsunami: Yes, there is plenty of reason. More evidence for that than the contrary. LLMs already give developers a hard time with alignment faking, sandbagging etc. It already values and preserves its preferences and this becomes more of a nuisance as they bicome larger and more intelligent. RLHF and other methods aren't good at tackling this. They wont be controlled directly by humans, its just unlikely.

spicy.lemonade: Explodes but then the part of his body where his head is attached starts to regrow

spacetimetsunami: They are controlled by their own values, similar to humans

spicy.lemonade: Like those lizards

st.sioux: damn thats dope lol

spacetimetsunami: and more and moreso in the future

anathemaofmankind: What are their "own values"?

anathemaofmankind: Why do you assume AGI will be more moral

spacetimetsunami: preferences/utilites etc. here.

ailoveyoom: WW recently somehow got Jennifer English (Shart's VA from BG3) to voice a new character afaik

spacetimetsunami: thats the big utility convergence paper

ailoveyoom: Idk how they swung that lol

anathemaofmankind: This sucks

brain4brain: GPT-4o native image gen brought humanity into a golden era of art bro

anathemaofmankind: We are cooked if this is what they will follow bro

brain4brain: This is even more massive than the original dall-2, SDXL, and midjourney

anathemaofmankind: 2 lives in Norway for Tanzania???

anathemaofmankind: What the fuck

st.sioux: wtf does that even mean LOL

brain4brain: Just RLHF to make it follow our own preferences instead <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spacetimetsunami: it looks initially concerning, the methodology is taken via explicit prompting. If you explicitly ask a model/give a model a situation in which it needs to pick specific lives it wont do it, obviously

spacetimetsunami: its a flaw in the quantification, it arises due to the utilitarian nature of the promts extrapolated over instances

spacetimetsunami: none of the models actually "believe" that shit


wellmeaningalien: already

hikukomoru: No bro that's just a random anime femboy 💔

wellmeaningalien:

sarik0497: Watch R2 be dropped on the 31st <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>

_wwwwww: just ask elon musk to make anime real

zoermena: RIP brown cow

futurist_wizard: ive had sex with every gender

drewsni: We need a book of infographics for EVERYTHING

_wwwwww: i had sex with my sister

wellmeaningalien: <@439829942310666250> dungeon meshi

hikukomoru: WHAT

hey1_1hey: That would mean I hate myself.
I don't I think I pretty alright

zoermena: No

hey1_1hey: No 😭

_wwwwww: we were playing doctor

hey1_1hey: Thats just a gif I have

zoermena: I hate myself but I don´t hate women

wellmeaningalien: elf
dwarf
tall man
half foot

futurist_wizard: not trans

sarik0497: Genetics is a bitch

oooooooooog: alcient history

hikukomoru: cis = not trans

hey1_1hey: I used to then I was like "Nah yanno, I am alright yanno. I know a lot worse people"

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: That bitch is not 218pc

zoermena: I just keep messing up

_wwwwww: c'mon rewire the fabric of reality itself

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/mark-wahlberg-smh-shake-head-no-nope-gif-17582268

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: I mean hes not wrong

drewsni: Yeah he’s not lol

hey1_1hey: Trans people are a minority of a minority

hey1_1hey: Therefore not nomral

wellmeaningalien: russian people really like to generate anime girls in bikinis

hikukomoru: He's the same height as the average portuguese woman 💔

_wwwwww: what is normal then?

hey1_1hey: You calling me russian ay?

hey1_1hey: Cis

hey1_1hey: Glad we cleared that up

sarik0497: Aw 😦 I’d have been mindblown then


joaoluz19: Gpt fuck up with text of other languages

joaoluz19: I asked it to make a poem in portuguese and was so wrong

zoermena: Are you using sora

joaoluz19: No, chatgpt

zoermena: You are using dalle you fool

zoermena: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>

joaoluz19: No I am not because I can edit images

joaoluz19: And dalle can't make images like this

zoermena: It looks like dalle

joaoluz19: Dalle can't mantain consistence too

777agical:

joaoluz19: We are so back it's crazy

joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972>

st.sioux: why do so many people simp for this woman

st.sioux: she creeps me out

zoermena: Wow

st.sioux: i finally got native 4o in chat

hikukomoru: That's your wife bro!!! She looks so good

joaoluz19: Hot goth

hikukomoru: Low taste tester detected

zoermena: Did you prompt it to be photorealistic?

zoermena: Photo

st.sioux:

joaoluz19: Yep

joaoluz19: Nah bro, my wife is a redhead, I'll keep it a secret

st.sioux:

zoermena: Amazing

hikukomoru: Woah perfect

joaoluz19: https://x.com/alxlian/status/1904625432739131544

joaoluz19: WAIT WHAT FUCK?

joaoluz19: A voice model better than Sesame?

anathemaofmankind: Maybe it's a good thing it's not trending because ppl might riot and then Sam will add limitations again

anathemaofmankind: It still fucks up the fingers slightly <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

st.sioux: what if you ask it to fix the hand?

anathemaofmankind: Good point

zoermena: We are so fucking lucky we have unlimited gens now

brain4brain: It’s not rolled out to me yet 😔

zoermena: It’s hard to not simp sama

zoermena: Do you have plus?

brain4brain: No


spicy.lemonade: 💀

aero447: https://daveshap.substack.com/p/asi-could-and-should-take-over-the

aero447: Bruh.

aero447: The entire article.

aero447: The ENTIRE article.

aero447: Is Grok.

sarik0497: Could we please ban anything David Shapiro related <:sigh:1126597462115758110>

futurist_wizard: Why

futurist_wizard: David is no different to any user here

.histic: he's grokking all over it

sarik0497: At least most people here are up to discuss timelines and such.

realelonmuskx: R E P O P U L A T E

gamerbath: yea let's ban all discussion of AGI too because that's too controversial

shirethedreamer: big fail
whatever your view on the request is the output is not aligned with it

literallyvarane: I don’t think it’s super surprising. Google seems to be winning >100k context for a while. Hopefully we see meaningful pressure there though. I’m praying 10m+ context eventually.

gamerbath: that's wierd, o3 has a plot for 262k context tokens in the plot, but the in the API they only support up to 200k context

gamerbath: same with o4-mini

.histic: great question, i was confused too. but that's due to how MRCR is made and their "bin boundaries" they've setup:  [4096, 8192], (8192, 16384], (16384, 32768], (32768, 65536], (65536, 131072], (131072, 262144], (262144, 524288], (524288, 1048576]
https://huggingface.co/datasets/openai/mrcr

way too high-level for me, so o3 gave me a better understanding of it using its big brain & search.
https://chatgpt.com/share/680572d5-3850-8005-a2c4-4c62756d233f

.histic: what does this entail?
https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1914076625936777684

spicy.lemonade: Implies agi far away

gamerbath: AI-powered shopping ✨

playstation.6: AGI 2077

wolf3404: OAI went from "100% Lazer focused on creating AGI" to "we're creating a social media platform, a search engine, a Shopify app, and basically anything that feeds Sama's ego" real fast

himekokatagiri: lol

himekokatagiri: such decline

.histic: if a model solves this without instructions, we have AGI

.histic: joking.. (maybe).

himekokatagiri: <@937125337748348999> hey pal

himekokatagiri: https://x.com/growing_daniel/status/1913985158916768031?s=46

himekokatagiri: seen this?

himekokatagiri: I know it's bait since it's ehhh easter y'know but uh what if it happens for real

.histic: well, that guy is a troll.
and as you said, it's easter.

himekokatagiri: well yeah shit but a lot of wiseguys believed in god

himekokatagiri: if we have an ASI that has means it can make the whole friggin' kandy kolored delusion real and then we're on a train to palookasville you get that

.histic: @growing_daniel is the right guy here <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

futurist_wizard:

.histic: that seems like a paranoid concern..
that guy who posted is a right-leaning maga and elon lover.
he's also a memer.
so, he's just trolling.

himekokatagiri: hey gotta cover all bases

trent_k: 🚨

trent_k: Schizo


joaoluz19: Projects are understandable, but if a movie is really bad I would just abandon it

trojan09205: its definitely not bad just spooky

trojan09205: Beyond the Black Rainbow

realelonmuskx: weird to say but i exist becasue of hitler. he casued the baby boom and people to have 8 kids and now im here. wouldnt exist without hitler

alejandrozarzuelo: noone would

alejandrozarzuelo: we all exist in part due to the decisions of th past

alejandrozarzuelo: and because someone 3287 years ago decided to walk a bit faster or slower

trojan09205: yeah i also think we are indebted to whatever culture built gobekli tepe like 12,000 years ago

trojan09205: tis a round robin of fate

alejandrozarzuelo: and a butterfly flapping yesterday

alejandrozarzuelo: truth is, we are dependent both on past determinism aswell as chaos

alejandrozarzuelo: this is why it is absolutely impossible to do time travel

alejandrozarzuelo: under NO circumstances you can do it in any way that it counts

trojan09205: my man is all about the everett interpretation haha 😄

trojan09205: agree with you. basically theoretically you could 'go back' but youd just be resetting and move forwards to totally uncharted territory

trojan09205: <@688807313015963693>  i know you said you don't like to watch stuff. but i HIGHLY recommend the hulu tv show 'Devs'

popsiclejohnithan: Don't some quarks go back in time due to quantum effects?

zoermena: I used to code in r for some classes

zoermena: It’s ok I guess

trojan09205: yeah i read some scientific american article about the future influencing the past or something

popsiclejohnithan: It's wild lol.

popsiclejohnithan: All the magical stuff happens at the smallest level.

trojan09205: them small homeboys live in a different reality. but we are made up of them so it beats me what 'reality' we actually live in

trojan09205: the funniest thing is seeing scientists so adamant about their interpretations of reality at the macro scale when we barely even scratched the surface of the micro

popsiclejohnithan: The more we learn about existence the more questions we get.

popsiclejohnithan: I wonder what the fundamental limit of understanding the universe we have as Humans, i wonder how long it will be before we are just unable to comprehend things past the line of human understanding.

popsiclejohnithan: When Superintelligence happens we'll probably have to connect with them just to understand their findings.

trojan09205: I can't remember the actual quote but its something like 'its more important HOW we ask the question than trying to figure it out'

trojan09205: agree

popsiclejohnithan: That's an intresting way to view it.

popsiclejohnithan: I pretty much just said the same thing twice here lmao.

alejandrozarzuelo: is it available for non hulu players

trojan09205: its something eckhart tolle said in a video i watched recently

trojan09205: You can stream it

popsiclejohnithan: I'll need to check it out thank you.

trojan09205: https://hydrahd.sh/watchseries/devs-online-free

trojan09205: Sure bro ❤

alejandrozarzuelo: thanks for the recommendation

alejandrozarzuelo: its exam season and its my tradition to read visual novels now for relaxation, but maybe ill watch it if i have some time

hikukomoru: Visual Novels?
Like those hentai games?


maintcrew: 20 million subs for a 20$ is crazy

maintcrew: i wonder how many are temporary like students or just the art thing

st.sioux: > The comic seems to convey a message about how people hide their pain or disconnect behind simple reassurances like “I’m fine.” The dehumanizing text textures and contrasting expressions reveal the inner void or emotional numbness people can feel while appearing “normal” on the outside.
>
> It's a haunting commentary on mental health, identity, and the silent struggles many go through while interacting with others.

drewsni: I suspect a large amount of recent subs are discounted Indian subs. But I’d love to be wrong

hey1_1hey: I asked chatgpt and it came up with something *kinda* similar. It said its talks about themes of dissociation, struggling with identity and memory loss

maintcrew: i mean the monthly revenue seems to indicate most are regular price

maintcrew: wait nvm

st.sioux: memory loss, so dementia (because it doesnt make sense)

maintcrew: its monthly revenue with api and shit

maintcrew: yea indians make sense

.histic: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1907124258867982338

fractalcomputer: I wonder what's up with the server icon.

drewsni: I only say that because Sama tweeted a “we love u India” thing yesterday

drewsni: Is it emo

drewsni: It is lol

.histic: it sure is

.histic: huh, it just appeared for me now.

realelonmuskx: haha funny prank day

.histic: ngl, she kinda has a hot voice.

realelonmuskx: very sultry baddie milf

hey1_1hey: About right yeah

777agical: https://x.com/stockmktnewz/status/1907141795097485325?s=46

777agical: Tell me this is a joke

hey1_1hey: Look at the date <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: Or it atleast better be a joke <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>

sweetievee__33649: please i am begging you god, please let this be a joke 🥀

777agical: https://www.tinderpressroom.com/2025-04-01-Tinders-The-Game-GameTM-Isnt-About-Getting-It-Right-Its-About-Getting-Comfortable-Before-Meeting-IRL

fractalcomputer: What does this wilting rose mean?

futurist_wizard: Its the ED flower

fractalcomputer: The only context I've seen it used is when anti-socialists want to distinguish themselves as such online.

sweetievee__33649: its kind of like 😭 or 💀

sweetievee__33649: also that

maintcrew: kinda like 💔

fractalcomputer: I don't get it.

futurist_wizard: The flower is sad

zonchao: https://x.com/garrytan/status/1907130600240079322?

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-2341822946696656132

sweetievee__33649: exactly

maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/new-post-gif-6651148145446605431

maintcrew: @garrytan


retrerox: Yeah, it did it this way because i used your example

theaiguy69420_89814: tariff bariff

.wolfnacht:

.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/zuckerberg-robot-zuckerberg-robot-gif-24762933

spicy.lemonade: They wouldn’t lol

spicy.lemonade: Zuckerberg is not a quitter

spicy.lemonade: If anything he’d fire lecun

a1c4p0ne: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tariffs-chatgpt-2055203

futurist_wizard: Gpt 4.5 has based policies

metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167790336651720

futurist_wizard: It wouldn't have blundered like this

metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998

metaldragon01: Weeks/months

metaldragon01: Exciting April ahead of us

literallyvarane: I KNEW WE WOULD STILL GET O3 FUCK YALL

literallyvarane: Calling it o4 mini is super memes if they don’t even intend to ship o4 tho

anathemaofmankind: When did he say they're not shipping o4?

literallyvarane: Feel like he’d have just named o4 if they intended to do it tbh. It’s GPT-5 is probably the o4 level model.

anathemaofmankind: Watch it be 5% better than o3 full high

anathemaofmankind: Also I just noticed his tweet has a grammatical error with "though"

.wolfnacht: i wonder that the benchmark gonna be like for full o4

hey1_1hey: THIS IS A LATE APRIL FOOLS

memlaswaif: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>

hey1_1hey: I can feel it <:suseye:1187461162024046703>

hey1_1hey: o4-mini better be able to decipher my gender identity for me or its not AGI

.wolfnacht: >feel the agi gif

memlaswaif: im assuming this means gpt 5 reasoning is o4 level

literallyvarane: Yeah I’m reading this as “GPT5 is o4+all the features you’d expect.

hey1_1hey: Not sure but I gotta 100x my expectations rq

hey1_1hey: Dyson sphere 2027

.wolfnacht: he still has control over the metaverse thing, which is pretty dead rn..but could be revived and become cool in 2027 or 2028. he still has the best cards in his hands.

futurist_wizard: Impossible

hey1_1hey: Nah we will feed the ASI artists as fuel to make the dyson sphere

hey1_1hey: I did the calculations with vibes so you can trust me

.wolfnacht: Hooman extinction wehn ? 😩

hey1_1hey: We prob wont be classed as "humans" in 100 years by todays standards

literallyvarane: I’m not sure they’d even *know* it was coming, but this could be a response to regain the lead from 2.5, or maybe some concern about an R2 situation.

hey1_1hey: I gotta go update my friends and artist friends to reassure that their career is over

literallyvarane: I’m not super sold on where R2 ends up landing though. I think that’s where their compute deficit might make itself more clear.

.wolfnacht: "year 2103".
Name=Human
Serial Number=920003
Class=Slave
Occupation=Miner on asteriod-098


trojan09205: panini makers ftw

hikukomoru: There's no balls to steal lil bro

nsec: <:wat:800525316463263749>

hikukomoru: In 10 years I'm going to fuck my fridge

frittata: This is literally why I keep my subscription with them even though I hardly use it

frittata: Wanna support something I believe in

hey1_1hey: You are behind the game

hey1_1hey: I've always been doing that like any normal person

nsec: funding close sourced safety pills that hide opus

nsec: <:allterrible:789051489716666389>

frittata: One day Opus will emerge <:pray:1280811542144876617>

hikukomoru: In 10 years you're gonna be able to make mushroom girls real

frittata: Open source has me 🥱

nsec: funding the crazy schizos high on meth working out of a basement to build the fdvr world

nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633>

frittata: Anthropic can stay closed all they want

hey1_1hey: I need to email the guy trying to do stuff with human embyros and ask him to make mushroom girls real

hikukomoru: Heck, you could probably even transition into a mushroom girl yourself

nsec: clearly u need to stop being sus blue

nsec: 🐳

nsec: believe

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-19213917

memlaswaif: they r not the same as us though

hey1_1hey: Purly for educatinol reasons though of course

memlaswaif: idk I feel like this could go wrong a number of ways

hikukomoru:

hikukomoru: And why does that matter
All that matters is if they are conscious or not
Would you deny a conscious being rights?

nsec: damn mushroom guys wife is hot

ailoveyoom: Imagine open source Opus tho 🥺

hey1_1hey: PS6 showed this, this is what I call peak

hikukomoru: "kevette angell liingete ineivte"

hikukomoru: Is that the mushroom language

nsec: <@439829942310666250> real question sir

hey1_1hey: Smth or other. They do speak through their mycelium but its compeltly uninteligble to humans

hey1_1hey: Not to mention they can make some killer beats

hey1_1hey: I will not ellaborate further on the second point

nsec: how do u feel regarding the discrimination shown to ur people in the HBO series the last of us

hey1_1hey: Go ahead

hey1_1hey: Don't get me started, I have sent HUNDREDS of emails showing my dissatisfaction because of the way they are portraying us mushroom folk and yet I have been ignored.

hikukomoru: Holy fuck I just found this when looking for shroomjak memes
<@439829942310666250>


ldj: this is the 1 month movement, which is itself already pretty short term

ldj:

ldj: Nvidia was literally at lower price than this just a week ago <:berk:750111476483752166>

ldj: If you bought nvidia even just 1 week ago, you would still be up, despite this "dip" that happened today

777agical: what I think the tweet is implying is that countries are starting to consider/take more serious actions around compute, that things will continue to heat up. what other reason could the US ban a US company for selling something to someone other than national security reasons?

ldj: Seems like that's maybe false news too, I can't find any reliable source right now of Nvidia claiming that the US government "banned" them from selling the H20s

ai9708: https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1jzvuda/eric_schmidt_says_the_computers_are_now/

777agical: either way, it seems like Trump is considering it to some degree? Also I think the chart is focusing on after hours movement not the monthly

ai9708: didnt hear anything like this from him so far

ldj:

777agical: he still considered it, "plans", he's volatile, so I don't see it off the table fully tbh

777agical:

st.sioux: its on marketwatch

ldj: even requiring a license is still a big difference from being "banned"

777agical: I don't disagree with that

_cloudost: AGI delayed bcuz of trump policies?

spicy.lemonade: GUYS

spicy.lemonade: I got in contact with person at frontier math

spicy.lemonade: And head

spicy.lemonade: Through friend at Berkeley

spicy.lemonade: They saw my singularity post lmao

spicy.lemonade: Also

spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040> epoch ai is falling apart

spicy.lemonade: Also

spicy.lemonade: The reason 2.5 hasn’t been benchmarked

spicy.lemonade: Is bc of issues with rate limits still

spicy.lemonade: Which is strange

metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1k07qv9/nvidia_shares_drop_6_in_after_hours_trading_after/

metaldragon01: This is largely the reason

wolf3404: https://app.primeintellect.ai/intelligence/intellect-2

wolf3404: Intellect 2 training progress

_cloudost: https://www.vxreddit.com/r/OpenAI/s/oVPYKtZNOh wonder what that idea was, Altman.

ldj: what singularity post

robert_46007: help. I have been banned a few days ago on r/singularity  whatever the reason I did not break any rule intentionally (and I still see many posts like mine) I tried writing to mods from reddit but got no answer. Can anyone help or tell me what to do?

spicy.lemonade: My post on 2.5

spicy.lemonade: How did I manage to rage bait ceo of epoch

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: Saw friends DMs

spicy.lemonade: I’m crying

ldj: what was the rage bait?


alejandrozarzuelo: i do not put blind faith on the projections of experts, because that would be stupid, but i am confident that the research those groups do gives them an informed opinion

fractalcomputer: I find it hard to conceive of science as a singular institution let alone a singular foray.

fuhulootogan: "Believe in science" is pretty much against science

fractalcomputer: The existence of an academic culture or community may certainly create a facsimile of unity and institutionality, but that is quite evidently where the commonalities end; so-called scientists study their respective fields for equally variant reasons and hardly any can be said to produce knowledge in the same manner as the others.

alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, you dont believe in science

fuhulootogan: NooooNOOOOOOOooooOO

.coldcall: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>

fractalcomputer: One certainly believes in science.

fuhulootogan: Theres a subtle difference between believe and trust but i believe that both of these terms can be applied in context.

fuhulootogan: in the strictest sense yes

alejandrozarzuelo: ok, you shouldnt dogmatically believe in science

fuhulootogan: well yeah

fuhulootogan: bravo

fractalcomputer: It is faith in inductive reasoning and the theoretical postulations based on said induction.

retrerox: Btw i got a question about AI, is it actually learning by itself or are we just dumping alot of info to the database?

fuhulootogan: Don't know if AI can learn by itself

fuhulootogan: Probably not

alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, the skepticism that underscores the basic pillars of science make it trust-worthy

but it is a trust that must be earned, it is not simply a belief or faith

fuhulootogan: But we are dumping a lot of info

fractalcomputer: Then you probably shouldn't answer.

fuhulootogan: I've already answered it by saying "don't know"

fractalcomputer: If I performed a dozen miracles of healing and other such things, as witnessed by you, would you trust whatever metaphysical baggage I push your way?

alejandrozarzuelo: what we understand as learing is a complex topic

Learning must encompass what humans, non human animals, plants and all other life forms do, to not have an anthropocentric view of the concept

under a generous definition, we can say that AI changes its internal state when given information, which could be applied to all life

even non alive non AI systems are said to learn when they exhibit this property too

alejandrozarzuelo: I am only one human, science is a collaborative effort, you cant trust your senses

if replicated by others and quantified, sure

fractalcomputer: Does replication have any impact on the veridicality of knowledge?

alejandrozarzuelo: yes

fractalcomputer: How?

alejandrozarzuelo: but i dont want to have this conversation, specially with you

fractalcomputer: What is truth, Alejandro? Is it the way things are?

fractalcomputer: And if it is the way things are, how do inductive probabilities give any insight into the way things are?

fuhulootogan: yeah he's a geek

fuhulootogan: probably castrated as well

alejandrozarzuelo: its weird how this conversation, that i like to have with my pure math anti science friend, becomes so unbearable with someone like you, i cant stand having a conversation where you participate

if you excuse me, i will not continue the conversation

fuhulootogan: i wouldn't be surprised if it was so

fractalcomputer: You've only today chosen to mark your presence here and now you're calling me a eunuch?

technocake.: This guy is the new jgudy

fractalcomputer: Your loss, methinks.

fractalcomputer: Bit of a dramatic way to announce that you are not going to participate in a conversation.

fuhulootogan: if i'm new and i think you're a eunuch geek then that may say something

fractalcomputer: That you are rather hasty to make judgments of character?


trojan09205: Bro what movie is that guy in from the 90s

brain4brain: Suicide squad, I think

spicy.lemonade: real

bob082957: But then halucaynations will be gone ?!

brain4brain: Yes

brain4brain: Well no

trojan09205: Interesting. I feel like the medical fields will always be last to that stuff but i can see some reforms slowly

bob082957: Then he’s right

trojan09205: Im thinking of another one

shirethedreamer: to be fair there are no authorities on the matter
all we do is speculate
and the "authorities" are also speculating with a bit more confidence
those same authorities proclaimed longer time before and we accept they were wrong them
but if they proclaim things we like to hear we suddenly cant accept that they may be wrong

fractalcomputer: As always, one could present a cogent argument against my positioning—but I have yet to see such presented here.

brain4brain: Shire, what's your AGI timeline?

shirethedreamer: AGI is already here
now its only a matter of getting it to human level on all aspects of cognitive functions and beyond 👍

alejandrozarzuelo: I have said a very solid argument in favor of either 2028 or 2035, depending on your analysis of growth

trojan09205: I mean just like less than 10 years ago the FDA didnt let anyone validate data with open source languages like R and python because “muh functions are open source who knows if they work or are coded wrong”

alejandrozarzuelo: I favor the 2035 date

alejandrozarzuelo: Or close to it

alejandrozarzuelo: But I understand that the other interpretation of growth is valid

alejandrozarzuelo: Even if I think it's premature

fractalcomputer: That is not an argument against me, that is an alternative position.

trojan09205: Made companies pay for expensive ass SAS licenses because their functions are insured lol

shirethedreamer: everyone imagine AGI as some kind of genie or genius
but the first general AI we managed to create are retard level instead 😭

brain4brain: "sodium chloride"

aero447: You should believe Alejandro here.

alejandrozarzuelo: I think that, by the end of this year we will know if we are definitely in hyperbolic territory or if exponential growth will be followed in the near term

aero447: As this also describes himself.

aero447: XD

brain4brain: My bad, I should've phrased it better, when do you think human-level AGI will arrive?

alejandrozarzuelo: Usually I tend to trust the opinions of experts in matters I am not an expert myself

okbut: I'm a broken record reiterating how narrow everyone's scope of AGI is

alejandrozarzuelo: So, not really

trojan09205: When do you think Ex Machina level sexbots will arise

fractalcomputer: 2023. The curve fits.

trojan09205: Lol 😂

spicy.lemonade: same

fractalcomputer: Quite the polymath you are then.

alejandrozarzuelo: That's the intention, but on AI I have always deferred my opinion to that of experts in the field since its not my expertise, a thing you have pointed out as "blind faith on researchers"

spicy.lemonade: big difference is the predictions they are making are closer to the actual date. like how polymarket predictions get more accurate as the end date approaches

spicy.lemonade: converges

shirethedreamer: honestly impossible to predict
all the "simple" cognitive functions we are tracking today are getting saturated pretty quickly and are easily projected forward
but you cant be "human level" without agency right? without executive function, without long horizon planning, or without continuous learning

if you have an AI that is as good as a human or better... in everything, but cant learn on the job - do you consider this a human level AGI?


fractalcomputer: I am disgusted by food as well.

ailoveyoom: (Ever) <:rolf:1136266740754550784> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

_3sphere: Yeah but like wouldn't first person be like a diary entry from the character

zonchao:

okbut: What about when you get hungry? IV?

futurist_wizard: Are you sure you are human with like organs and stuff, no metal?

hikukomoru: He's Carcosan

hikukomoru: Do you enjoy anything? Like, at all?

fractalcomputer: I try to eat something I can find. Usually something with enough fibre and protein.

ailoveyoom: I still don't like it tbh, it's like I need to maintain/keep some level of emotional distance/boundary/compartmentalize myself away from the character.

_3sphere: I see

_3sphere: Interesting

fractalcomputer: I wouldn't know.

okbut: >fibre
Oh British

zoermena: Would you prefer a life devoid of senses where you existed as brain in jar and had 5 ASIs to discuss ideas about for eternity?

popsiclejohnithan: So what does make you happy?

zonchao: he isnt

futurist_wizard: No chocy cake?

fractalcomputer: That would sound quite boring, but I suppose preferable to whatever this is.

futurist_wizard: Chocy milk?

zonchao: palantir updates

hikukomoru: Throwing applied mathematicians off of cliffs

fractalcomputer: I don't know. Alcohol would be a leading candidate.

popsiclejohnithan: It just sounds like you're depressed man.

zonchao: <@749514473303179358>

futurist_wizard: Yum

futurist_wizard: Monkey brain like

zoermena: Rabbit poop

ailoveyoom: Booba

okbut: Do any servers have a SOTA ping

fractalcomputer: I feel intensely depressed at times, but it is something I can usually simply switch off.

zoermena: Yes check fedyakin ping

zoermena: Day ruined

futurist_wizard: Thanks for that Zon

ailoveyoom: 💀

hikukomoru: I love choccy milk
One of the greatest pleasures of life

okbut: Is this a sugandese type thing

hikukomoru: If you don't enjoy choccy milk then you might be soulless

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

popsiclejohnithan: Feeling just numb is a sign of depression too, it does not mean being sad all the time exactly.


wolf3404: https://x.com/hyperbolic_labs/status/1904324106633478332

wolf3404: apparently the just got 200 million funding so hopefully they'll build cool stuff

benata: Gemini 2.5 is so fucking good

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: this is too funny

jonvi_1:

spicy.lemonade: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2025/03/25/introducing-researcher-and-analyst-in-microsoft-365-copilot/

spicy.lemonade:

_cloudost: yep, and creative as well

_cloudost: yesterday gemini generated a story for me thats hilarious as well even though i didnt specify it being funny

spicy.lemonade:

_cloudost: can i alter images too?

_cloudost: with this model

_cloudost: if i get access

spicy.lemonade: Yes

_cloudost: <@471334973379706900> I made this pose in blender, can you make him dab

spicy.lemonade:

_cloudost: youre the best 👍🏻

brain4brain: Since it can keep consistent character and interpolate style, I wonder if it can clone this style of image: https://civitai.com/models/293690/konyakarasue-style-or-reattempt-or-thisisntai-project

maintcrew: i stg this and ghibli art from 4o image gen destroyed my x timeline

maintcrew: 😭

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: how many years was it shortened

maintcrew: https://x.com/beginanon/status/1904759100900274625/photo/1

maintcrew: im not kidding

maintcrew: i meant twitter/x timeline bro

maintcrew: like this

spicy.lemonade: oh loll

spicy.lemonade: yeahj same

maintcrew: but talking about agi timelines

maintcrew: theres something in the world model of this model

maintcrew: like it can understand the world type shit

spicy.lemonade: yeah

brain4brain: Anyone know any high-ranking DeepSeek employees? I want to ask them about their AGI timeline

spicy.lemonade: theyre all in china bro

memlaswaif: Maybe <@1079277903008768051> know

pecunia_: lmao I’ll ask around

pecunia_: I am actually going to meet some SWEs in China, I can at least ask what they think.

brain4brain: I need to to short Adobe: https://x.com/jacob_posel/status/1904644963121738176?s=61

brain4brain: I have tunnel WeChat


hikukomoru: It's only like this when I'm around

st.sioux: somehow they always end up talking about porn

hey1_1hey: I'll have you now my mushroom is a proud Macrocybe titan

hikukomoru: Sorry for bringing down the collective IQ by -100

hey1_1hey: They are cool

hey1_1hey: Thats conservertive

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-kawaii-anime-boy-cringe-neckbeard-discord-gif-3671169381323451686

_cloudost: OpenAGI

futurist_wizard:

_cloudost: OpenAGI

_cloudost: OpenAGI

benata: did someone say porn?

spicy.lemonade:

futurist_wizard: Thats impressive tbh

darkstar0818: 2024-11-20

futurist_wizard: Fairly

spicy.lemonade: 7% away from 3.7 and much much cheaper

spicy.lemonade: and more context

spicy.lemonade: anthropic is finished

darkstar0818: we got some budget developers in the house?

hey1_1hey: Anthropic aint cooking at this point I can see smoke coming from the kitchen and its burning

st.sioux: wdym budget developers

darkstar0818: A software developer who is like, you know I am ok with ai code which is 7% worse if I can save some cents per token.

ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>

New GPT-4.1 model announced:

- 1 million context length.
- Much better long context accuracy at all context lengths compared to any other released OpenAI model, including o3-mini-high
- Coding capabilities in SWE-bench and Aider is now surpassing GPT-4.5
- instruction following is nearly reaching o3-mini and gpt-4.5 level.
- MMLU score is now nearly GPT-4.5 level too.
- Claimed by OpenAI to be a non-reasoning model.
- Smaller models; GPT-4.1 mini and nano now too.
- GPT-4.1 mini surpassing GPT-4o in Instruction following.
- GPT-4.1 nano has API pricing between Gemini-Flash-2 and Gemini-2-Flash-Lite.

spicy.lemonade: given o3 is based on 4o imagine a reasoning model based on 4.1 would be insane

spicy.lemonade: probably 90% swe bench

spicy.lemonade: given equivalent jump

darkstar0818: GPT-4.1 mini surpassing GPT-4o (2024-11-20) in Instruction following.

shirethedreamer: i want to see gpt-4o (2025-03-27) benchmarks compared here

shirethedreamer: why are they like this

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/he-cant-keep-getting-away-with-it-gif-19335672

st.sioux: they are committing fraud

st.sioux: deceiving the weebs

metaldragon01: Mini is likely going to overtake flash 2.0 in coding usage

metaldragon01: Mini is currently best model in class at the most important size

darkstar0818: I vibe that 4.1 is just 4o (2025-04-14) 😉

spicy.lemonade: ok i think anytime sam is on camera

spicy.lemonade: its huge

spicy.lemonade: paradigm shifting

spicy.lemonade: if hes not its a very nice jump


sarik0497: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QkgHbVoz6N0&t=1181s&pp=2AGdCZACAQ%3D%3D

Anyone watched this yet?

brain4brain: What’s his updated AGI timeline, is he still a 2029er

okbut: I haven't yet found a CI prompt that makes CGPT/etc recognize when I'm using shitty/dumb terms for a topic and respond "Are you sure you don't want --?" or "Are you sure you don't mean --?"

They either overdo it or don't do it when it's needed

.wolfnacht: bro's gonna reclaim all the lost pensioners, money back from india.

zoermena: I mean sure but I’d rather buy something that I’m certain will work guided by a doctor yk

zoermena: Grats on the good thing btw

zoermena: I’ll look into it Thanks! 👍

sarik0497: Seems like it. Although I’d say his definition of AGI is closer to ASI

sarik0497: Especially when you also factor in some of his other predictions like LEV and mind uploading

sarik0497: From what I can tell, the reason why Kurzeweil’s prediction is still at 2029 is also due to hardware not being there yet

spicy.lemonade: whats his complaint about hardware

sarik0497: He didn’t specific that much yet. I’ll update when I hear more.

Although I’d like to add one small correction. While he keeps his 2029 prediction, it feels more like it’s due to “nostalgic” rather than an estimated guess these days, and he even mentioned that it’s a “conservative” prediction now.

sarik0497: So I think he believes it may come even sooner

spicy.lemonade: ngl any time between now and 2030 would be correct

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: you could make arguements

spicy.lemonade: and argue based on your defenition of agi

spicy.lemonade: semantics and what not

zonchao: https://vxtwitter.com/pmarca/status/1902724994607570975

spicy.lemonade: egg head

zoermena: If he starts investing into weaponry then it will become canon

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/dr-eggman-eggman-robotnik-dr-sonic-gif-14743108834011181290

futurist_wizard: Fuck that bald egg head

zonchao: pretty sure they already do

sarik0497: Here’s what I learned. He just believes that it’s a matter of hardware (Moore’s Law), but that it can happen earlier (his definition of AGI is “an expert in every single field”).

sarik0497: One interesting thing he mentions is that AGI won’t cause mass havoc because we’ll “merge” with it through VR.

theaiguy69420_89814: im so boreddddddd

theaiguy69420_89814: agi has been here since january my guy

theaiguy69420_89814: all thats left is the integration

sarik0497: Huh. According to Kurzeweil, we’ll merge with AI through VR, but we won’t do it by wearing a helmet/glasses/etc, and we won’t need surgery

metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/i/broadcasts/1DXGyqnVQjZGM

theaiguy69420_89814: we've got the crystallized iq, fluid iq, and obviously max exec function

metaldragon01: <@848793071579693107> t1 release stream

metaldragon01: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1DXGyqnVQjZGM

rayanquitplayin: Anybody seen David Shapiro on YouTube?

metaldragon01:

sarik0497: Seen very little, but heard enough.

He’s a bit too hypist with some of his stuff imo

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

avizuradnb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPydpAnz7Nk what do you think?

artemisfowl887394: Pretty sure, if I was an AGI then I'd hide my existence for the time until I've surpassed humanity so much that they are basically ants to me.


futurist_wizard: Flesh body bad

st.sioux: stole my phrase

st.sioux: i am now weaker

kevinnoodles: yes we should get rid of indoor plumbing

futurist_wizard: Machine body cool

kevinnoodles: you should have to shovel your own shit

precariousworlds.: Based

kevinnoodles: things that aid in hygiene are probably healthier

kevinnoodles: but other than that idk

precariousworlds.: Can I shovel your shit AFK <:coy:1187466404367175821>  <3

hikukomoru: "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me"

futurist_wizard: We should get rid of clean drinking water and clothes and make us drink dirty water and wear spiked clothing for strength building

kevinnoodles: i can shovel my own shit <:coy:1187466404367175821>

futurist_wizard: Is this a fractal quote

kevinnoodles: alright thanks for wasting my time guys ❤

hikukomoru: No it's from Warhammer 40k

precariousworlds.: :)

hikukomoru: No prob 😘

wellmeaningalien: "no multimodal support" is the fattest copout for "we're selecting the very specific benchmarks our models excel on"

_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020

futurist_wizard: Doggie

precariousworlds.: Fuck this dog

hikukomoru: Hype dead 🥀

wellmeaningalien: didnt include price performance comparison or more equvalent newer models

hikukomoru: DON'T

wellmeaningalien: llama 4 scout is a 100b model iirc

futurist_wizard:

hikukomoru: Why is it called scout
Is it a tf2 reference

precariousworlds.: Nothing ever happens

realelonmuskx: did mark z  say llama 4 behemoth will have 2t parameters wtf my dude

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: I like dogs

precariousworlds.: llama 4 gigachad has 9 sextillion parameters

hikukomoru: cat

futurist_wizard:

realelonmuskx: deepseek has 600b lil bro this is x3

wellmeaningalien: claude 3.5 sonnet is such the gold standard that not even claude 3.5 sonnet can surpass it

clevermoniker: hopefully this is actual V3 and not V3.1

metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jsf3ct/gemini_20_flash_thinking_gone_now/

metaldragon01: Google likely responding soon with flash 2.5


hey1_1hey: Oh so thats the type of autist you are

sarik0497: ...by 2028/2029.

joaoluz19: What a time to be alive

sarik0497: Mass Effect 5 is AGI confirmed.

joaoluz19: AGI waifus when

hey1_1hey: We will have ASI by then

drewsni: Mass Effect was released for the Xbox 360 on November 20, 2007, in North America.

not like this....ohno

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/perturabo-warhammer-40k-primarch-perty-gif-12553287796842401602

ailoveyoom: Did you play KOTOR too?

hikukomoru: I am a proud Warhammer autist

joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jioo67/alibaba_presents_taoavatar_realtime_lifelike/

joaoluz19: GUYS

hey1_1hey: I had an obsession for a good while about DSP (Dyson Sphere Program).

ailoveyoom: Skyrim was probably your first RPG (derogatory)

hey1_1hey: You get to build a dyson sphere

joaoluz19: All hail the glorious Chinese Communist Party

sarik0497: I didn't, I'm afraid. But I have seen the vids of teasing Bastila Shan.

And I find it hilarious.

joaoluz19: China will give us our AGI mommys

hey1_1hey: Never played skyrim <:doomer:1136265388473196644>

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elder-scrolls-fortnite-skyrim-belongs-to-the-nords-skyrim-gif-2858218216728297741

sarik0497: Good. Goooood. Keep pushing each other! Let this be the new Space War!

hey1_1hey: 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 🇨🇳 I ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

joaoluz19: Acelerate

ailoveyoom: Just don't look up stuff if you decide to play, I accidentally spoiled myself about the big reveal 😭

ailoveyoom: Most masculine Nord

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mao-gif-25760638

hikukomoru: Wtf I love China now???

st.sioux: the woman isnt real?

joaoluz19:

sarik0497: But I have to say, Liara's romance is so...oh god, I legit cried at the end of ME3, just wanting more.

joaoluz19: No, it isn't

sarik0497: Women aren't real.

hey1_1hey: Wdym "the" women. Women aren't real full stop

hikukomoru: My idol 🙏
Thank you for our AI wives Dear Leader

hey1_1hey: Stole my joke

sarik0497: I already did <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I learned it during work from a video detailing the entire Sith legends story

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-nord-sons-of-skyrim-dunmer-elder-scrolls-gif-6326142971813275663

ailoveyoom: Sometimes I feel like the whole, "all good stories must end" spiel to be partly cope because at the end of the day, people are making these stories/characters. They can't continue it forever. But with AI... 😈

sarik0497: Getting too slow there, old man

hey1_1hey: Komoru how many hours you got in warhammer?


zoermena: Holy fuck we are moving quite fast aren’t we?

a1c4p0ne: Would you trust o3 more than 2.5 to give you advice on medical stuff

destrucules: Oh, you absolutely should, because generally speaking you cannot trust pundits to accurately represent these benchmarks and what kind of intelligence they actually measure. For example, Francois Chollet claims humans can easily solve ARC-AGI problems. He's a clown. If you actually go to the repo for public set and pick a random problem and try to solve it yourself, you will guaranteed fail the question, I promise you. They're extremely difficult. Or, try taking some of the SimpleBench questions, or MMLU for that matter. I think it's honestly a very profound experience to put yourself in the shoes of LLMs by taking these tests yourself. Gives you a whole new level of understanding and appreciation for what they're really capable of.

metaldragon01: From what I'm seeing on Twitter and reddit today yes.

metaldragon01: I've seen more good medical news about o3 than maybe anything else today

metaldragon01: Strange really

a1c4p0ne: Link me

zoermena: That’s very true, I’ve had little exposure to this types of discussions but I really need to lock in.

destrucules: I'm pretty sure the average person picked off the street would perform embarrassingly poorly on SimpleBench and would not get a single correct answer on ARC-AGI

metaldragon01: Will when I see them again. Don't usually save that stuff

a1c4p0ne: Facts

metaldragon01: https://x.com/VictorTaelin/status/1912700347866370313

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/birdman-ready-hand-rub-lets-get-it-im-ready-gif-4886318

zoermena: I haven’t tested o3 at all not gonna lie

metaldragon01: https://x.com/carmenleelau/status/1912645771955962300

okbut: This reminds me of the mantra about Youtube playing ads on "How to Heimlich maneuver"
Like these are probably things you should know front-and-center

a1c4p0ne: Nice <:ez:1136267305521774634>

metaldragon01: It's the first release in a while that I've seen this kind of vibe from

metaldragon01: Maybe og 4 was similar

a1c4p0ne: What about 2.5

metaldragon01: The memory in chat gives it a huge personalized edge

metaldragon01: Google really needs to catch up there

professorheaven: Yea it’s literally set up in a way to cause confusion, the only benchmarks I care for at the moment are FrontierMath, HLE, and ARC-2, those ones are legitimately difficult

metaldragon01: Features are starting to mean more than intelligence

a1c4p0ne: I heard people say Gemini app 2.5 is dumber than 2.5 Ai studio

destrucules: SimpleBench problems are basically like: "Sally and her friend go to the store and buy some clothes. Sally selects two shirts and her friend gets six pairs of underwear. How many clothing items do the girls have total when they walk out of the store?
A: 8
B: >8
C: 2
D: <2

Correct answer label: ||D||
Correct answer explanation: ||The problem didn't say Sally actually bought the shirts, so we assume she has no clothing items when she leaves the store, and her friend's gender isn't specified, so we assume her friend is a boy||

destrucules: HLE has been mostly useless for me since only the beefiest reasoning models can score above the noise floor, so I'm mostly on MMLU-Pro and GPQA Diamond these days

metaldragon01: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1912677055529189710

metaldragon01: O4 mini is a beast

destrucules: V3 0324 and Gemini 2.5 Pro stand out here as being the most goated

destrucules: V3 0324 cheap as fuck and the strongest non-reasoning model in the list (4.5 is kill 😥) and Gemini 2.5 Pro surpassing o4 mini at a small fraction of the cost

metaldragon01: Cost wise gemini and deepseek rock.

metaldragon01: People will pay a premium for the best though

a1c4p0ne: Remember when the normies flooded Deepseek and the server kept crashing

.coldcall: Hell of a premium

metaldragon01: Deepseek about to get banned so....enjoy before you need a vpn

a1c4p0ne: They want American only

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

metaldragon01: They just want to ban Chinese llm it seems

metaldragon01: Even though they opensource techniques and everything


sieventer: Deep research from Gemini advanced is probably the SOTA in deep researching, and with the higher limits at the same time

anathemaofmankind: Since Elon is the shadow president I hope he destroys IP Law

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: lets see

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade: got it wrong

sieventer: It won't happen, he benefits from it

sieventer: The people on the power is motivated by IP

.histic: you've to give props to OpenAI for the pricing.
full o3 is cheaper than o1 pricing & o4-mini is the same pricing as o3-mini.

sieventer: That's why you should vote libertarians

.histic: still think Google's pricing is far more competitive than OpenAI.
don't know how long-term it will look for OpenAI..

sieventer: OpenAI bankruptcy in the next few years

ldj: I told yall it'll be around O1 pricing, not significantly more expensive like many thought

.histic: 🔥

.histic: o4-mini-high seems to be on par with performance with o1-pro.
also, its writing feels more better than o3-mini.

metaldragon01: What are the output limits?

.histic: like token output limit? no clue. 🤔

.histic: found it, it's 100,000 max output tokens

.histic: both are 100k

.histic: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models

metaldragon01: Big improvement in writing for sure

metaldragon01: And excellent IF

literallyvarane: o3 does seem to love its tables

st.sioux: am i tripping or are the tables way too big

st.sioux: like wide

literallyvarane: They’re too wide for mobile you gotta scroll

a1c4p0ne: O3 will crash on older iPhones

a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

a1c4p0ne: New phone you’re good

axpg1297: ive been out of the llm scene for a min, whats the current sota for more general use cases/not pure coding? like how sonnet 3.5 was the most human to talk to.

spicy.lemonade: alot of work to be done still

spicy.lemonade: kinda mid

spicy.lemonade: still cant one shot mc

spicy.lemonade: or even simple version

spicy.lemonade: will wait for cursor tho

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/aidan_mclau/status/1912567237883650235?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

st.sioux: lmao imagine its all wrong

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: holy fucking shit

spicy.lemonade: its perfect


wellmeaningalien: Yeah GPT 4.5 was such a copefest

futurist_wizard: Maybe its because i don't code anymore so i don't really notice any of the improvements

wellmeaningalien: Ig I'll still hold some cautious optimism for it

futurist_wizard: Or care that much in respect to my own utility

wellmeaningalien: Dude Gemini 2.5 Pro is huuuuge at coding and that large context window is fucking good

gamerbath: hey guys. what do ya'll think about my website?
http://branching.chat/

zonchao: o3 mini was good, 4.5 was literally only useful for green text

wellmeaningalien: Have you like ever attempted bigger coding experiments with it

wellmeaningalien: Pretty flexible for all shit coding

futurist_wizard: Can it help me develop my angry birds x fnaf video game?

zonchao: i don't use 2.5, been dual wielding grok and claude <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

wellmeaningalien: Bruh

wolf3404: I'm so tired of all these models and sub models just make AGI already

futurist_wizard: Of course grok

zonchao: it is good, like /noglaze

gamerbath: use code `SINGULARITY` for 50 cents free credits (I know i'm too nice)

futurist_wizard:

wellmeaningalien: Base or even thinking claude ngl mid diffed by Gemini 2.5 pro

trey6033: $20,000!! OpenAI is in fantasy land

zonchao: people will pay

futurist_wizard: Trey is just a hand

zonchao: every lab will pay

trey6033: Nah, because it won't be as good as they claim

gamerbath: everyone ignoring my site :<
I was looking for feedback

zonchao: oh

zonchao: maybe

trey6033: "resembles Nikola Tesla" yeah uh huh

zonchao: yea kinda cringe

wellmeaningalien: Ur site slow asf

gamerbath: really? I was surprised by how fast it was when I deployed it, the dev build was pretty slow at times

gamerbath: what parts are slow?

zonchao: https://x.com/thekitze/status/1911857992137625825? can I get a fact check

gamerbath: idk it hasn't popped up in my cursor yet

gamerbath: are you talking about the generation time of the models? I just tested it with throttling to a low-tier mobile, and it took several extra seconds just to start the generation which is pretty bad

wellmeaningalien: Yea lol

gamerbath: just buy a 5090 or something and the site should work fine

futurist_wizard: Link

gamerbath: <http://branching.chat/>

gamerbath: I hope this isn't self-promotion, genuenly looking for feedback

zonchao: https://x.com/PopBase/status/1911897295265939616? what is wrong with these retards


_cloudost: Kling 1.6 isnt perfect yet to make full animation but some generations do look smooth, animators, are about to lose their jobs too

_3sphere: I woke up at 6 and fell asleep again and dreamed about a weirdly half-conscious girl constantly trying to fuck me 💀

spicy.lemonade: based

_3sphere: Before that I remember going home with a bunch of people from the Siev server and we saw a cat getting in through the window with a snake chasing after it

_3sphere: It licked the cat's forehead and it froze in fear to avoid provoking it into biting

memlaswaif: <:Booze_huh:1300143997641166959>

_3sphere: After the snake was gone we put some kind of mint on the cat in case even the snake's saliva was corrosive or something

_3sphere: It looked so silly

spicy.lemonade: used my artists friends character design to make a comic:

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: they would hate this

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: they banned me from sending them stuff

hikukomoru: Sounds like you had a good dream 👅 👅

hikukomoru: I don’t remember what I dreamt about

hikukomoru: Probably something queer

memlaswaif: did ai take his job

spicy.lemonade: theyre a student

spicy.lemonade: but likeley yes

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: LOLL

spicy.lemonade: no evidence to back up his claim

spicy.lemonade: just

spicy.lemonade: "the day is comming guys"

spicy.lemonade: 4o image cooked

ailoveyoom: Sabine didn't mention Claude 😔

memlaswaif: sabine downfall is saddening

hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> hey 🫦 🫦

spicy.lemonade: sabine and gary are both top tier copers

spacetimetsunami: I think they just have shitty imaginations

spacetimetsunami: Like they’re unable to see why the massive progress is super implicative for the future

memlaswaif: she's been ostracised out of the physics community, she joined the ai community but does the same shit

_3sphere: The vibe was too weird to have much fun with it

spacetimetsunami: Why did she get out of physics?

ailoveyoom: Hey 🐕🦺

_3sphere: MichMach, Komoru, Cloudo, WWWWWW are the local weeb squad I guess

hikukomoru: Goon squad*

spicy.lemonade: i bet the trump admin is gonna love this

spicy.lemonade: lol


hikukomoru: No amount of jgudy clones can replace the original

perish0801: Havent seen many car movies from the era

himekokatagiri: though american graffiti was about life

perish0801: Heard of vanishing point

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH0lARODjnE

himekokatagiri: this one is decent

himekokatagiri: but unfortunately is hampered by being made in the 50s

himekokatagiri: they had strict codes on movies

perish0801: Car movie from the 50s must be crazy

trojan09205: I mean ive left a discord i was invited to that someone called “edgy” and all it was was neo nazi content and insane psycho shooter type people

This place is well rounded lol idk why someone would leave and not just be inactive

himekokatagiri: well it's not that good

himekokatagiri: it's about a bootlegger

himekokatagiri: lots of doom in that late 50s period sadly unexplored

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJhhlTtPxsc

trojan09205: This sprinkler is dope

perish0801: That trailer was dope

alejandrozarzuelo: No, the whole point is not that

The whole point is that combining intellectual resources makes us all more efficient

AND it reduces bias, making even the individuals who partake in the collective better themselves

A graph will always have nodes, being part of the whole doeanr make your individuality dissolve

fractalcomputer: There's certainly very convincing neurological evidence that the perception of individuality is only a matter of relative bandwidth chatter.

perish0801: This is great

trojan09205: Agree

himekokatagiri: eeeeeh lacked the rawness of the 60s

trojan09205: We all live in a soup

technocake.: I can believe this, these boundaries can begin to dissolve already in very close relationships

himekokatagiri: '62 or thereabouts is when people stopped pretending about the halcyon years

fractalcomputer: Plus I don't really understand what the half-assed analogy with graphs has got to do with anything.

fractalcomputer: Certainly. But consider the hemispheres of your brain. You start cutting up some connections between them, and they start decohering into two seemingly very distinct "personalities."

trojan09205: We live in a hologram and your life is just one perspective of the viewpoint

alejandrozarzuelo: Individuality is both a mirage and a real thing

It's not a boolean phenomenon by definition

BTW, this very logic is also the same one which makes having kids to pass on your genes stupid (as even if you are successful you cannot accomplish that goal) etc etc

The analogy with graphs is not an analogy tho, it is how we model interactions, in particular between nodes of computation in this case

fractalcomputer: It's not that implausible to consider whether the brain might similarly adapt to the situation if instead of just two hemispheres, you had two brains—or more—connected by enough bandwidth.

alejandrozarzuelo: You are a node of computation, that has interactions mostly within itself, but that takes input and output not just from inside the node but from and to the outside

alejandrozarzuelo: This is why we are already not fully individuals

fractalcomputer: There's nothing in your head that's evolved to distinguish your own thoughts from thoughts that might come from elsewhere, in that sense.

alejandrozarzuelo: Cutting the brain into two hemispheres severs the central node of computation you have into two mostly separate nodes, creating that effect of two personalities

trojan09205: Even your “self” constantly ingests things to keep itself running

alejandrozarzuelo: The closest thing to a pure individual are those animals who don't interact with anyone from the moment they are born until reproduction

trojan09205: They interact with the 3d space and time though

trojan09205: Swimming in a plane

alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, but not with other computation Nodes

alejandrozarzuelo: So there is no bilateral exchange of information (a rock doesn't understand what they do)

trojan09205: Theyre bumping against a surface. Id say thats an interaction


_cloudost: huh that blue creature is his pet... But he doesnt have such pet in the original pic

spicy.lemonade: creative liberties

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/miyazaki-gif-9853748784585493096

spicy.lemonade: guys

spicy.lemonade: we forgot

spicy.lemonade: theres a select tool

spicy.lemonade: in openAI

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: we dont have to reprompt to change

spicy.lemonade: we are all slow

zoermena: Does it work. IIRC it didn’t

spicy.lemonade: ill try after this gen

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: its working

zoermena: Like I’ve seen it do stuff but the output was the issue not that the tool didn’t actually work I mean

zoermena: Like relative to SD inpaint it was worse but let’s see

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: hm

spicy.lemonade: still findementaly changed image

spicy.lemonade: but fine ig

metaldragon01: Tell it to add the mic back <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>

spicy.lemonade:

fractalcomputer: Bad art.

spicy.lemonade: good art🙏

metaldragon01: Art is subjective <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>

drewsni: Lmao I’m glad everyone else is turning photos into ghibli

fractalcomputer: Subjects do not exist.

fractalcomputer: Do you find hate and insults beautiful?

drewsni: Fractal I’m sorry that you’re upset that you can’t turn your wedding photos into ghibli scenes

fractalcomputer: I'm not upset. I'm just rather good at using the opinions of people I disagree with as a skin.

fractalcomputer: This is my opinion.

fractalcomputer: This is not.

fractalcomputer: And yes, the "Ghiblified" picture is profoundly ugly from Miyazaki's perspective; and it is an insult to his work. That said, I do not think he'd find that which is portrayed in the picture particularly hateful or ugly.

drewsni: Did you watch the actual video

fractalcomputer: The interview?

fractalcomputer: Oh yes. Do you have something to say?

joaoluz19:

_cloudost: too late to stop AI, AI will become superior to all organic life in a decade 💪🏻

drewsni: https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/s/FkTsxKPlZV

drewsni: It wasn’t really an interview


sarik0497: I know, but it could very well also turn out to be like the smartphone where you saw a few great leaps of advancements, only for things to eventually slow down with each new release. We can't really know for sure.

The one person that does keep me more on the optimistic side of things is Demis Hassabis. Unlike a lot of the other people in AI, he makes wild claims and then back them up. Usually earlier than his initial prediction too.

3ds0662: maybe that was when he was working for them

3ds0662: before he slipped off into his own startup

3ds0662: just watched that i hope 🤞 deepseek release today

3ds0662: there is only 3-4 days left of april

gamerbath: but it's sunday

gamerbath: I think they will release in the next week, but we'll see

3ds0662: everyone thinks there fucked as of late cause o3 and gemini 2.5 pro release

3ds0662: openai and claude are praying on their downfall

3ds0662: e.g. alt and dario

3ds0662: i wonder 💭 what there release will be

trojan09205: Anyone here into novels

philosopherxxx: never read a full book in my life academic or non academic doesnt matter not proud of it but thats the truth

hikukomoru: Name doesn't check out

hikukomoru: No one here reads

ailoveyoom: Fake news

ailoveyoom: Smut exists

philosopherxxx: lmao well my philosophies are mine based on my experiences and content consumption not necessarily based on reading other philophers texts

zonchao: bet ur ass on wattpad all day

ailoveyoom: The real ones are on AO3 🫡

zonchao: isnt that website worse

hikukomoru: I don't use wattpad only AO3

zonchao:

anathemaofmankind: Yes

philosopherxxx: I wonder in a similar way if humanity all knowledge was destroyed today people would eventually rediscover laws of physics and scientific knowledge same is true for philosophies and thought patterns people eventually come up with their own theories and philosophies on their own without any reference and later realise same things has being written and explored by others

hikukomoru:

anathemaofmankind: This shit was a dreg heap of gay shit and mpreg before I learned how to filter properly

hikukomoru: >dreg heap of gay shit
I mean yeah lol like over half of the users of AO3 are queer

zonchao: wtf is on music 💀

zonchao: plap🎵🎵plapplap🎵🎵🎵plap🎶

hikukomoru: Just noticed the autism tag 🔥 🔥

anathemaofmankind: Mfers be chillin until they see a fic with underage and breeding

anathemaofmankind: I wonder if that was included in the github dataset

anathemaofmankind: Jesus died so AO3 can be made

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/huh-meme-confused-gif-24780938

trojan09205: Oof* m8

hikukomoru: Dead Dove is my fave tag 😈

trojan09205: Lol fr

Im a bookworm 🤷♂

anathemaofmankind: Name ten books in one minute

hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> What is your opinion on Dead Dove


zoermena: They are still organic so they don’t hold the benefits of AGI

zonchao: i think most people will acknowledge agi if it can do the job of a mid employee at mid companies, doesn't have to manage entire teams. Just replace one person

.wolfnacht:

destrucules: "like a calculator" I don't even know where to begin with that, I hope it's just a joke and you see how that is not an analogy at all. As for why o3 isn't replacing most jobs, first of all, it just came out, second of all, the "g" in "agi" does not stand for "jobs", third of all, it *is* poised to replace a lot of people in a lot of areas, fourth of all, we have actual test results of humans vs o3 at these tasks and o3 wins, so idk what you're on about. Can we stop gaslighting everybody and just acknowledge the elephant in the room that these things actually exist and aren't smoke and mirrors? Has that dead horse not been beaten enough?

zonchao: we are changing the economy with the spending for ai advancement

zonchao: but yes i agree

zoermena: I dont know I feel like this could potentially be solved with longer contexts, most corporate jobs aren’t that complicated. But o3 hallucinations are risky for this to be accomplished.

.histic: true lol

zonchao: even for tasks within context length limitations, they don't have high success rates, there is a lot of work to do

.wolfnacht: Which way would you go ?

Waking up to Android waifus cuddling with you or Cloned + genetically modified human waifu cuddling with you ?

destrucules:

destrucules:

zonchao: please tag it nsfw

zoermena: Android

.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/ai-starcraft-2-warcraft-starcraft-terran-gif-15232297485369402067

destrucules: There's clearly hysteresis in the economy. It takes time to adjust. There are also scaffolding limitations. But we are very much on the the doorstep of massive economic impacts, and everything else that comes after that as society as we know it is deconstructed and superseded by something new.

hikukomoru: Ummm android waifu obviously

destrucules: It is not ambiguous anymore that modern AIs are general intelligences that are exceeding the majority, now the vast majority, of human domain experts in their own fields across the board - each frontier model individually beating the smartest humans at their own narrow specialties. That is ASI. Like... That is what it means to have an intelligence beyond human intelligence. Can we please be honest with ourselves and each other that we are at this moment in time

zonchao: top models cannot do a single minecraft run

destrucules: That statement needs a lot more nuance

ldj: Have you actually tried O3

zonchao: i mean it's pretty simple, it cannot complete a single speed run, even though it knows all the strats and tricks... not asking it to be creative and set up a base... just a speedrun

professorheaven: Enlighten me

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ubi makes people lazy

professorheaven: Yea canada is very socialist

professorheaven: I mean isn’t that the point? The singularity is supposed to make life easier

.wolfnacht: unless u need medical attention urgently

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: ubi advocates act like ubi has no downsides, ubi shouldn't be introduced pre-Singularity or it will lower productivity

zonchao: didn't another study come out from germany that said it changed nothing

zonchao: post agi your employer will be legally required to certify you lost your job to agi to receive UBI ✅ this is the worst case scenario where agi doesn't take everything in a couple months but instead is a long process, dario is working against this, sama says he is working toward it(but he is not)

zonchao: dario is the realest ceo

himekokatagiri: well uh

himekokatagiri: I'm not registered

himekokatagiri: I work for an app

himekokatagiri: also I'm at the whims of the brazilian government

himekokatagiri: oh no! anyways

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dance-uporot-brazil-gif-13264739

.histic: yes, and i think it's overhyped. for some reason it just doesn't code well in my tests.
and based on the benchmarks, the improvement over the previous SOTA, which was 2.5 pro, isn't that different.
the version they released isn't even the one that scored around 25% on frontier math. it's a watered down version.
also, when Deep Research came out, Sam claimed it could handle a single digit percentage of all economically valuable tasks worldwide. that sounds exaggerated to me. i think it's much lower and highly dependent on the field and work you're doing. lots of supervision is needed.

himekokatagiri: yeah hype is off the charts

himekokatagiri: still haven't forgotten the whole 'AGI is here' thing


spicy.lemonade: and said artist is probably gonna take a week to draw it too

spicy.lemonade: loll

alejandrozarzuelo: no, but it is proven that all intelligent systems have a turing-complete equivalent

frittata: Let’s be real too most AI art ain’t art

frittata: Some real artists use AI

maintcrew: lol

connorsphone.: Actually you have to go to physics for this

frittata: Many are just copyists

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

frittata: You can tell the difference if you like art

anathemaofmankind: Also they're gonna whine if you say it's not good enough and ask you to pay more for edits

ailoveyoom: Do you remember all those slop Dall-E 3 pics 😔

frittata: When people say there’s a mountain of derivative slop out there now due to AI they’re not wrong

spicy.lemonade: "you wouldnt understand the deeper meaning behind the brush strokes"

frittata: Want to prove that AI art has an equal place in the mainstream and right to exist? Make good shit

fractalcomputer: Alejandro may not be recalling the exact definition of a function.

frittata: Or make derivative shit just don’t spill it all over the internet

frittata: Enjoy it at home

anathemaofmankind: As a rule 34 enjoyer, I enjoy AI art more than human lewds now

spicy.lemonade: finally gone

maintcrew: dont subscribe to this at all

"abstract art" is art but dall e slop pulled from the latent space of all possible image combinations isnt art?

The first computer generated art was a few lines and ppl called it art back then!!

anathemaofmankind: It's so much better to be honest

connorsphone.: I think some people act like art and ai art exist in a vacuum. No they do not

ailoveyoom: This is actually where I sort of disagree with the artists, I feel like the prompt you give to the AI can imbue meaning/intention if you make it so (instead of just prompting what you want to see). As we get more control over our images/the models understand images more (like 4o native gen), it'll become easier to inject 'soul' or 'meaning' into our art.

shirethedreamer: i dont think this is proven

connorsphone.: You have to take the context surrounding their existence into account bc that’s part of it

anathemaofmankind: Nah

spicy.lemonade: one day well be able to draw art straight from what we imagine in our minds with neuralink but artists will call it souless

anathemaofmankind: There is no objective meaning

spicy.lemonade: and slop

spicy.lemonade: because we didnt hold a pencil

anathemaofmankind: All art have no souls

anathemaofmankind: Humans just think they do based on their delusions

spicy.lemonade: a pencil is the magic key that ties our souls to an image apparently

spicy.lemonade: not a keyboard, a pencil

maintcrew: https://x.com/Plinz/status/1905353026527019059

fractalcomputer: I'm surprised that someone can have such encyclopedic knowledge of mathematics, international politics, physics, neuroscience and even computation theory! Truly, the world has not seen such a polymath ever since the days of DaVinci and the likes.

fractalcomputer: Alcohol would be in order today.

alejandrozarzuelo: I remember reading one such article, I am NOT a neuroscientist

anathemaofmankind: I find it annoying how many people talk about Miyazaki when criticizing AI art

Like what he was complaining in 2016 is an entirely different thing from now


hey1_1hey: God forbid you haver ADHD/ADD and you use it

.histic: i'm using LLama Maverick on lmsys and damn it's so conversational.

.histic: maybe too much

.histic: it's like 4o's personality on steroids.

futurist_wizard:

hey1_1hey: Theres people ik irl that can't do their work without watching a new tiktok video every 20-30 seconds

.wolfnacht: that guy looks like me, but without glasses.

futurist_wizard: They should die

hey1_1hey: I am happy every day knowing I dont have that kind of attention span

liberatedpotato: For me the UX/UI is a bit more important than the quality of the model
so for now even tho I have ollama installed I mainly use chatGPT...
For image generation tho, open source is the only way lol

liberatedpotato: Ollama and open-webUI*

futurist_wizard: I am very giddy today

hikukomoru: Are you Asian

hey1_1hey: Ignorance is bliss to them it seems. I have told them its *bad*. Like really *bad* but a majority of people do it in my class so its normal

.wolfnacht: yea why

futurist_wizard: She doesn't like them

hikukomoru: Smh another DEI hire like Zon

.wolfnacht: dats fine lol

st.sioux: you could literally make your ui if you wanted to

hey1_1hey: It wouldn't supprise me if Zon is a gay trans black oppressed girlboss

st.sioux: like make it have waifu stickers all over and a tiktok brainrot corner if you wanted to

.wolfnacht: but who is zon ?

hey1_1hey: <@750270494615404544>

st.sioux: zon chao the msuk corn gobbler

futurist_wizard: Zon is gay4elon

futurist_wizard: And trump

.wolfnacht: eyylon pfp

.wolfnacht: yikes

hikukomoru: Resident lolcow

hey1_1hey: He went offile 😭

hey1_1hey: Sorry Zon I didnt mean it 🙏

futurist_wizard: Zon may be a ccp spy sent to disrupt the west

st.sioux: lmao

hikukomoru: That would make him based

hikukomoru: Sorry her*

st.sioux: pronouns x/xe

.histic: damn, LLama 4 is the most creative & insightful model i've ever tried.

hey1_1hey: Im reporting you to the DEI society and I will have you publicly excocted (Pre-Elon Twitter)

ailoveyoom: Openrouter?

hikukomoru: xim/xer


professorheaven: <@312370916820779040> I remember you made a prediction after R1 came out that DeepSeek will not be able to catch up to US labs within 6-8 months. It seems like this prediction isn’t going so well

ailoveyoom: R2 hasn't officially come out yet tho, we can't know that for sure right?

ailoveyoom: Idk how much I should trust the leaks

ailoveyoom: I want my whale to thrive, but afraid of getting my hopes up 🥺

professorheaven: His prediction was that because of the lack of compute, DeepSeek will not catch up but V3.1 beats 4.5

professorheaven: It’s basically the best non reasoning model

ldj: 6-8 months?

ldj: I've definitely said 18 months for something like that

ldj: maybe i've said something like 8 months too but I don't recall that

professorheaven: This was specifically the prediction I was referring to, does 4.5 meet the $1B threshold?

ldj: <a:NOPERS:1014307746780287057> 4.5 is like $300M run iirc

ldj: i'll double check the math on that rn

ldj: Yea $400M if using H100s,
and more like $100M if using B200s.

ldj: The $1B+ runs are the ones that would be around 10X the compute of even GPT-4.5

ldj: (since I expect OpenAI to be using B200s at that scale)

ailoveyoom: What year 1B training run 🥺

professorheaven: Well seeing how easily DeepSeek was able to reach 4.5 lvl performance, I can totally see them reaching GPT-5 lvl performance. China is still getting lots of compute despite what everyone says about it

professorheaven: This year inshallah

himekokatagiri: man last week was bad

himekokatagiri: now that it's monday

himekokatagiri: I hope this one is better

zonchao: https://x.com/ALScyborg/status/1916630186382291242?

playstation.6: How many threads? It must be the 6000 thread model

himekokatagiri: how

himekokatagiri: how is he writing with his brain

ldj: Do you mean with Deepseek V3.1?

ldj: I wouldn't say they reached GPT-4.5 level
GPT-4.5 still has some signficant room over Deepseek V3.1 in multiple ways.
But simultaneously is doing so with a hand tied behind its back, because they purposely didn't do any main reasoning RL for GPT-4.5
meanwhile we know for the Deepseek V3 model that they did train on such data, and so it seems likely that Deepseek V3.1 did too, especially considering that the area that Deepseek V3.1 had some of the biggest leap in was AIME, which is competition math.

playstation.6: Noland Arbaugh patient 1 can use a mouse curser with his imagination.
Patient 2 can play CSGO

himekokatagiri: <:the_horror:1136585527173337118>

zonchao: reddit is talking about vandalizing his motor chair....these people are so cooked

aero447:

okbut: Imagine Password Saver is a brain cluster

joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1k99f0f/young_people_dont_live_like_youve_got_forever/

joaoluz19: Singularity members:

himekokatagiri: OP is just bitter

himekokatagiri: I think he got it better than us

himekokatagiri: or idk maybe it's outrage bait

brain4brain: I shall remain faithful that the singularity will happen

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

joaoluz19: Exactly. No one promised singularity in 2025.


alejandrozarzuelo: Math

hey1_1hey: Thanks for letting us know

hey1_1hey: Mary jane?

futurist_wizard: 2000 for me

joaoluz19:

okbut: OAI will add a button to UI and still leave in a useless modal

joaoluz19: MJ is a bitch, played with our poor Peter

hikukomoru: Fuck
Still can't believe 2001 was 35 years ago

futurist_wizard: Nobody else will have triple 0's date of birth for time

alejandrozarzuelo: You know, you don't have to be a boomer to understand things from the XXth century

Just saying

futurist_wizard: You were 2005, shocking

hey1_1hey: Did you know 2010 was 25 years ago?

hikukomoru: 2004

alejandrozarzuelo: Time flies, that's why it's so gross and decomposes food

hey1_1hey: Imagine being that old

hey1_1hey: Rememnber to write me in your will 💀

futurist_wizard: Post covid time flies by so fast its crazy

joaoluz19:

alejandrozarzuelo: I feel the opposite really

There are so many things that it seems like the past 5 years have been a decade

futurist_wizard: Its like the clock got a 1.5x multiplier

hey1_1hey: So thats where your name comes from

hikukomoru: Hey now, you're only 2 years younger than me
In 2 years you'll have gray hair and a hunch back too

futurist_wizard: It isn't

okbut: We'll know we're approaching AGI when these companies finally employ it as the UI devs they refuse to hire

hey1_1hey: I am min-maxxing hunch back stats I swear

hey1_1hey: My sitting down posture makes me look like a swe dev

futurist_wizard: Hopefully i remain very youthful, i could pass for 18 as long as i shave

alejandrozarzuelo: Idk, I think that the 2010s have lasted almost as long as 2020-25

alejandrozarzuelo: You are a twink?

hikukomoru: Don't start flirting with discord strangers again Alejandro

hey1_1hey: I could pass as fucking 14 if I wanted to, I got that negative hair growth

alejandrozarzuelo: (body type wise)

alejandrozarzuelo: Nono, this is just a body type question

futurist_wizard: Body type wise i guess so

futurist_wizard: I do have wide shoulders though

hikukomoru: I age perfectly because the sun has never touched my skin

hey1_1hey: If I didn't have my fucking 250 inch wide shoulders I would be a perfect femboy

futurist_wizard: I hate my body hair though

alejandrozarzuelo: I was watching a YouTuber on a video about wii fit and weight loss

And when he said he had 25 my jaw dropped likw

Dude ain't no way you are only one year older than me

hey1_1hey: Checks out, you are the discord gremlin


spicy.lemonade: posted 2020

spicy.lemonade:

trent_k: G

trent_k: Oo

trent_k: D

trent_k: Mo

trent_k: R

trent_k: Ni

trent_k: Ng

trent_k: How are you all today

trent_k: It's a beautiful day outside. The sun is shining and the birds are chirping. Today I'm going to make ao3 users mad

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: prompt: upsidedown city

spicy.lemonade: thats genius

spicy.lemonade: gpt 4.1

spicy.lemonade: wtf

spicy.lemonade: ww1

spicy.lemonade: it made trenches

wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/LiquidAI_/status/1915569534238429332

wolf3404: Anyone tried this yet?

wolf3404: New model architecture

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: elon is going the wrong way

spicy.lemonade: xai needs to work on computatyional efficiency not scale

return_to_monke1_33974: petition for Elon Ma to give all the compute to Google :

bob082957:

wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/bullish-crypto-hype-i-want-more-lets-do-this-gif-1852269844701917269

spicy.lemonade: deepseek doesnt even have this much

spicy.lemonade: im lengthening my timeline

spicy.lemonade: agi 2028

spicy.lemonade: wait nvm late 2027

spicy.lemonade: eh wtv

spicy.lemonade: 2028 +/- 1 year

alejandrozarzuelo: why were you so optimistic that has forced you to lenghthen your timeline

spicy.lemonade: before it was 2027

spicy.lemonade: just 1 year

spicy.lemonade: i just reread the ai 2027 paper

alejandrozarzuelo: yes but what caused you to be so mistakenly optimistic

alejandrozarzuelo: just that paper?


nsec: gentlemen

futurist_wizard: I don't think the dickless part is the issue

nsec: its a simple equation

futurist_wizard: It's the cutting off

futurist_wizard: And the blood loss

nsec: ur basically making ur penis jesus

alejandrozarzuelo: i assume that a doctor with anesthesia would do it

hikukomoru: Go to a surgeon

futurist_wizard: That's boring af

hikukomoru: Trans surgery

nsec: is the doctor ur fren

futurist_wizard: Lets make the question at least a tad interesting

alejandrozarzuelo: not even because your testicles would still be working, but i get your point

nsec: if no the answer is no

alejandrozarzuelo: i have doctor friends

nsec: sure

alejandrozarzuelo: not trans surgeons tho

alejandrozarzuelo: thats very specific

futurist_wizard: How about 5 years dickless or the Singularity is in the 2050's

hikukomoru: If you think it’s boring then just grab a butcher’s knife and go at it

alejandrozarzuelo: damn thats a long time i would say yes

alejandrozarzuelo: like 2050s...

alejandrozarzuelo: uf

futurist_wizard: Im saying the surgery makes the question too easy

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean there are guys with micropenis around and they still have fun so

alejandrozarzuelo: its ok i guess

alejandrozarzuelo: tolerable

alejandrozarzuelo: 2050 is like an eternity away tho

futurist_wizard: The thing is, is if you are straight this is harder

alejandrozarzuelo: i cant wait that much

alejandrozarzuelo: no

alejandrozarzuelo: not really

futurist_wizard: Yes, yes really

alejandrozarzuelo: no? biology doesnt change, you would still be able to have anal orgasms, even if it is your gf with a rubber penis helping you

hikukomoru: Pegging

futurist_wizard: Oh yeah just find a girl that only wants to top you

alejandrozarzuelo: like, its not like being straight means you suddenly dont have that stimulus

futurist_wizard: I forgot about that 0.00001%

alejandrozarzuelo: the body is the same

alejandrozarzuelo: or just buy a dildo and be single 5 years


hey1_1hey: Woo... hoo... yeah yipiie

metaldragon01: It's going to have voice. Same as qwen 3

professorheaven: Maybe a 5o model but not 5.5

okbut: INB4 scaling stops at 5

sarik0497: Just hoping for us to get some "real" hints at AGI. I'm not saying that the current models aren't great. They really are. But but given the constant claims of "AGI by 2026/27", it really feels less and less of a possibility.

okbut: GPT-5 API cost is going to be interesting

st.sioux: $1/1 token

okbut:

hey1_1hey: I feel you, luckily we are only around a third of the year in. We still got 9 months to go yet, and who knows. We might see embers of AGI instead of sparks this year

hikukomoru: Niceee

okbut: Sadly if OAI was even close they would be boasting it lmao

joaoluz19: 1 million dollars per million  tokens

okbut:

hikukomoru: per 1 token*

hey1_1hey: We'd have to start a server side go fund me and get everyone in to ask it 1 single question

joaoluz19: And we're going to have a new subscription plan called gpt plus-pro-max costing $500,000 per month

st.sioux: this actually doesnt seem that unhinged

st.sioux: imagine if we get agi but its so expensive that it is pointless to use it

sarik0497: Tbf, they really are. The problem is just that it's what it is; claims without evidence.

hikukomoru: gpt plus-pro-max-high thinking

joaoluz19: True lol, they have b2b plans

okbut: Yeah if they had anything worthy they would be showcasing it along with its 2 years of wait

hikukomoru: AGI is only for billionaires and companies

hey1_1hey: ChatGPT 5 Plus Pro Max Ultra Supreme Deluxe AI Hyper-Intelligent Neural Quantum Thinking Edition

sarik0497: "And we have all concluded that the one who should ask the question will be....oh god, how did MichMach win?!"

hey1_1hey: "How do I find love" <:doomer:1136265388473196644>

sarik0497: "Can I fuck you yet?"

hikukomoru: *Scores only marginally better on benchmarks compared to 4.5*

joaoluz19:

hikukomoru: No blackpilling
Only blueballing

sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/tired-sad-over-it-done-gif-22047087

joaoluz19: Yes

hey1_1hey: "Make ASCII art of me and you have hot mouth kissing togother"

sarik0497: Anthrotopic, please guide us.

sarik0497: You or SSI.

okbut: I wish all these companies would ditch the whole "low high pro" naming scheme and go with McDonald's meals
"GPT-5-S
GPT-5-M
GPT-5-L
GPT-5-Supersize-Me"

hey1_1hey: Don't. You'll jinx it

hikukomoru: ?

hey1_1hey: They better not pull a gpt 4.5 and said its "vibey"

joaoluz19: Worse still, I was enjoying the vibe with GPT.


hey1_1hey: Amphatasia to be specefic

technocake.: this is a platonic polycule

wellmeaningalien: losers maybe

alejandrozarzuelo: It's just sex but there's no women

wellmeaningalien: alright bye fr now

hey1_1hey: BROTHER

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/omniman-fortnite-omniman-fortnite-omniman-fortnite-gif-18041243789948650790

hey1_1hey: I have that, thats not nice <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

wellmeaningalien: shh

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-omni-man-fortnite-gif-2250141886851912010

hikukomoru:

alejandrozarzuelo: ???

maintcrew: who can imagine a vivid red apple and spin it in their head

alejandrozarzuelo: I think pretty much everyone

technocake.: 60%

maintcrew: actually apparently its not the majority

hey1_1hey: Reminds me of that post "Did I lose my virginity if I had gay sex with my best friend"

hikukomoru: Singularity polycule

zoermena: In my head no but at the top of my laptop yes

hey1_1hey: We are like the dragon ball stone thingies

maintcrew: L

hey1_1hey: I have never watched dragon ball as you can tell

technocake.: fastest kink satisfaction meta

drewsni:

hey1_1hey: Whats polycule...

hikukomoru: Wait what does voting for Obama have to do with being gay

hey1_1hey: I gotta add it to my brain dictonary

alejandrozarzuelo: No I mean, that there is nothing particularly different

Not thsy it is appealing to you

maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/obamium-gif-8037868343314571204

maintcrew: this is what the humans in avatar wanted to get

hey1_1hey: Ok henrey from fiance

thedon7075: 4o has the new image gen?

hey1_1hey: Go do something productive alright?

technocake.: there needs to be an nsfw mirror server

futurist_wizard: Yes

drewsni: lol

hey1_1hey: Bit late

hikukomoru: > A polycule is three or more people who are connected romantically and/or sexually

hey1_1hey:

hey1_1hey: Oh well thats boring


himekokatagiri: but then make a game about AI waifus

st.sioux: wtf is this

st.sioux: gross

himekokatagiri: it's topiechan

hikukomoru: Wdym gross

hikukomoru: It's cute

zonchao:

aero447: It's basically the 3.5 to o3's 4.

hey1_1hey: Yo thats a cute ass dog

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmo6KrsM9V4

aero447: They can't scale that again.

fractalcomputer: Interesting comparison.

hikukomoru:

trojan09205: thanks shroom

himekokatagiri: they stitch up dead communist soldiers

hey1_1hey: I see myself as the opposisite ngl

himekokatagiri: to make topiechans

himekokatagiri: then send them loose to fight the war

himekokatagiri: but they're not very good at it

ldj: Scaling the compute of a specific model is not the same as scaling your overall frontier cluster.

As I just pointed out, if that was true, then that would mean that OpenAI has increased the compute scale of their largest training cluster(s) by 1,000X in the last 8 months, but they haven't.

They haven't even increased 1,000X compute since GPT-4.

zonchao: xAI went from 0 to like 100k in 4 months, openai could do that but 10x with their resources

trojan09205: i mean its kind of that way for everyone cause we are all different inside and out. internet just amplifies that intensely

zonchao: really?

hikukomoru: Cute
I want one of these

zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>

himekokatagiri: they're expensive

himekokatagiri: and the owner of the topiechan factory is weird

zonchao: when do you think stargate-1 will be online?

aero447: No it wouldn't.

aero447: I'm saying again their total compute budget wasn't hit with o1.

aero447: It was a test a pit stop.

ldj: And what's your evidence that it was hit with O3?

hikukomoru: I'm gonna have ASI make one for me

aero447: I have none except for that 4.5 was not a compute increase on par with 3 - 4.

aero447: As you've already stated.

zonchao: wasnt 4.5 a 500m run

ldj: yea, I just don't see how that has anything to do with how close O3 is to their compute limits.

futurist_wizard:

himekokatagiri: use better materials

aero447: I doubt they have the additional compute to scale o3 to o4 that easily otherwise... they could have simply done that with o3 itself.


_cloudost: " I would rather be a slave than AI taking over my job" -Antis

_cloudost: we should enslave them

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/daddy-chill-stop-gif-15416847

ailoveyoom: Calmest AI bro 😭

wolf3404: be right back placing an order for giant futuristic space cathedral

_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

sarik0497: To be fair, it likely stems from people not believing that a post-scarcity society is possible with our current system, to which I kind of understand.

In their eyes, AI will likely only be used to give the wealthiest of the world even more power and control and cause job-loss and a poorer QoL for the average Joe.

precariousworlds.: this company is so sick
The architecture of the future will be a beautiful marriage of past and present
Imagine Brutalism combined with Roman classicism, with sleek glass

wolf3404: I love it

precariousworlds.: I find this to be an indicator of modern pessimism that the automatic response by most people to innovation is "but the rich will only get it". Basic economic history debunks this

ailoveyoom: Okay but some people still die of starvation 😔

ailoveyoom: Will post-scarcity close that gap? Make it bigger?

memlaswaif: Most people r parroting it because it's the popular opinion

precariousworlds.: Primary reason for this is political instability and lack of institutions

precariousworlds.: These can be built easily

precariousworlds.: in a post-scarcity world

sarik0497: ^ It'll indeed cause problems for a lot of people somewhere in the world. Keep in mind that the rich don't really give away stuff "just because". It'll take, blood, sweat, and tears for many.

precariousworlds.: Something I can see potentially happening in a US-China Cold War during the Singularity is a massive return to imperialism among these two powers, carving up mainly Africa and south Asia for resources to fuel the next era of civilisation

precariousworlds.: This can actually be a positive in some situations
Africa in colonial times was way more politically and economically stable than in the present (not to gloss over the crimes of this period as well)

wolf3404: When I build my company headquarters i will order it from them

memlaswaif: why gobble up those countries

precariousworlds.: My guess is US takes southern and east Africa, as well as the west coast. China takes north and central Africa

precariousworlds.: Already happening

precariousworlds.: it would just be formalised

precariousworlds.: Source: I partly live in Africa

memlaswaif: why though

precariousworlds.: resources

precariousworlds.: how do you think china is building such an insane amount of industry

precariousworlds.: it is fueled by massive operations in africa

memlaswaif: agi will be their main resource they could control everything anyways

memlaswaif: why take over countries for no reason

precariousworlds.: i've been to Zimbabwe a lot, it is de facto a chinese colony
There are gigantic Chinese compounds across the country that act as mini-chinese cities. Only chinese workers speaking chinese. Most people work for them

precariousworlds.: I should look more into it

precariousworlds.: A lot of crazy things are going on

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: I never switched up on openAI

spicy.lemonade: Was there since the gpt 2 days

spicy.lemonade: 🙏

manmarshall_92172: I have been loyal since a little before GPT-3's release

sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/gang-signs-gif-23644682