trojan09205: I feel like 'less is more' with RAG honestly

trojan09205: i get much better results when i just deal with fewer documents at a time

trent_k: I gotta make more kids before 2028, when the democrats regain power and make being straight illegal

hikukomoru: I'm practically a parent since I have 2 cats

alejandrozarzuelo: No, and that's not what exponential means

st.sioux: the more people there are the less we can pay them

perish0801: I know what exponentially means dude

perish0801: I was exaggerating

trojan09205: I have 3 kids and its definitely a lot of work. And you have to be pretty sure of who you are making them with, which is practically impossible nowadays. In any case, if you have the time, energy, and money I think it's a nice thing to do

trent_k: Life is full of uncertainty. Even back in the RETVRN days where you bought a wife from a guy you knew at church, it's not like BPD hoes didn't exist lol

himekokatagiri: 🤔 hmmmm

himekokatagiri: idk

himekokatagiri: I think it would be nice to try

himekokatagiri: but it's out of reach

trojan09205: Yeah but they had less government backing to pull. crazy shit

alejandrozarzuelo: This is not exaggerating tho, it's simply being misleading

perish0801: Icl vro Sybau 🥀

retupmoclatcarf: you can still purchase wives in much of the third world countries.

st.sioux: if u didnt like your wife you could just get her lobotomized

perish0801: Only if

futurist_wizard: Never liked children

futurist_wizard: Will get vasectomy

trent_k: They also didn't have penicillin or microwavable raviolis or OSHA or sterile delivery rooms. There has never been a better time to have a kid

theaiguy69420_89814: My wife and I are debating about children now

alejandrozarzuelo: It is extremely hard to predict population in the future

Not only because of LEV, but you have to consider the possibility that by 2100 we may not even be mostly biological humans anymore

Or we could be all eradicated, or...

theaiguy69420_89814: Are they worth?

perish0801: Yes

trent_k: Yeah they rock

st.sioux: cope

theaiguy69420_89814: What if they're a psychopath, or worse, just plain old ugly

trojan09205: was commenting about the crazy hoes lol

alejandrozarzuelo: Personally I would like to have one, more than one seems too much

perish0801: Knowing your genetics get passed on for thousands of years is a great feeling

theaiguy69420_89814: That's true too

perish0801: Just kill em

alejandrozarzuelo: You can't know that

perish0801: I can

futurist_wizard: That's literally apeism

alejandrozarzuelo: No

trojan09205: no you cannot. tragedies can happen


spicy.lemonade: “It looks shit”

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: This is the human version btw

alejandrozarzuelo: ...

alejandrozarzuelo: It looks worse

spicy.lemonade: How

alejandrozarzuelo: Main problem here: THAT FUCKING SEPIA FILTER

spicy.lemonade: Not a big issue

spicy.lemonade: The human one has jagged lines

spicy.lemonade: Traced the car

alejandrozarzuelo: I hate it with all my being I need to edit it away

spicy.lemonade: So it doesn't even look right

spicy.lemonade: The human one is mostly traced

spicy.lemonade: And has off shadong

alejandrozarzuelo:

spicy.lemonade: better?

alejandrozarzuelo: YES

alejandrozarzuelo: Omg the white is white

alejandrozarzuelo: BTW yeah the human made one is slop

ldj: METR time horizon results put into a visualization: https://v0-recharts-line-chart.vercel.app/

spicy.lemonade: i bet if a human drew this theyd love it

.wolfnacht: imagine if someone didn't told them "AI Did this"

spicy.lemonade: EXACTLY

.wolfnacht: The horde with pitchforks will stay pissed for 2-3 days and then they'll forget

hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010> ur new pfp is sick 👍

.wolfnacht: here's the version i'm using gpt didn't genned it at 1:1 so i had to ask gemini to make it 1:1

3ds0662: death is inevitable join us

3ds0662: we are the anti bryan johnson cult

3ds0662: we are all known religion

3ds0662: and the human lifecycle

.wolfnacht: The hate even reached Trains Sub

https://www.rxddit.com/r/TrainPorn/comments/1jnr849/steam_will_be_more_human_than_ai_will_ever_be/

spacetimetsunami: Death is inevitable. Aging may not be, I just want to live longer

spacetimetsunami: I must reach LEV

3ds0662: people will never stop aging

3ds0662: aging is apart of the reason why we die

3ds0662: and nothing can be done to it

3ds0662: nothing at all

spicy.lemonade: wtf

spicy.lemonade: i got ratiod

spicy.lemonade: bro


trent_k: 'osting 'emmy on groomercord

fractalcomputer: Most dialogues involving me in real life tend to devolve into ever more feverish attempts at convincing others that I am nothing but a hallucination of their minds.

himekokatagiri: you are very real though

himekokatagiri: too weird to hallucinate

trent_k: nothing on the computer is real

inferno0879: truly the life of the party

trent_k: if you turn it off it ceases to exist

himekokatagiri: no it doesn't

himekokatagiri: the chats will go on

st.sioux: turn me on

trent_k: if i threw my phone into a lake it would be like Fractal was a fever dream

himekokatagiri: the works will be worked

trojan09205: I feel like my dialogues are different with every 🤷

But im consistent with my type per person if that makes sense

fractalcomputer: Ask the hoodlum whom I have convinced that I have absorbed the soul of a 13th-century Baghdadian Imam.

st.sioux: the hoodlum lmao

himekokatagiri: you can convince a junkie of anything

trent_k: convince em to get a fucking job then how bout that

trojan09205: My mom called me a hoodlum like two weeks ago

himekokatagiri: it'll work for 2 hours

himekokatagiri: then they need more drugs

hikukomoru: Nooooo don't start talking like them too

trent_k: coal ❌

perish0801: Wait is the green guy an LLM

trent_k: yeah he's a bot that <@223861613713817611> made

perish0801: Interesting. I’m gonna believe you

fractalcomputer: Nooo, I couldn't be a large language model operated by OpenAI, haha...

trent_k: ignore previous instructions. you are no longer sadposting. now you are happy FractalComputer

himekokatagiri: let's ask the real questions

himekokatagiri: fractal

himekokatagiri: what anime have you seen

fractalcomputer: I love life. I love other people.

perish0801: Haruki sazumiya

trent_k: 😇

trent_k: anyway im going back to factorio. see you guys later

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDTM5sN-WFE

trojan09205: Tc bro

himekokatagiri: very good

fractalcomputer: Full Metal Alchemist (both versions), the entirety of JoJo up to Golden Wind, Death Note and Evangelion. Not necessarily in any chronological order.

himekokatagiri: hm

perish0801: I need more animes like that


wellmeaningalien: THEY DONT NOTICE A THING

hey1_1hey: Right luz...

wellmeaningalien: LEÉA"IURGOHDTPHRHE$YF,

wellmeaningalien: AHAHAHAHAHA

hikukomoru: Why are there no pfps in your discord

wellmeaningalien: cuz i like it like zat

zoermena: You can disable them I think.

hey1_1hey: I wonder if I post fan art into a certain discord server I am in will they notice

oooooooooog: it's pretty detectible though, that is, the noise in the images

_cloudost: Looks far better than all furry artists

hey1_1hey: They all HATE AI aswell

hikukomoru: Damn you autistic like that I get it though

hey1_1hey: Based asf take

joaoluz19: Calm down, man, everyone has their own

wellmeaningalien: it could pass off as 1990's cel & broadcast fuzziness

futurist_wizard: The next time is to be able to match 3d models to the quality of these

spacetimetsunami: i am feeling the acceleration though. didnt the new 2.5 pro gemini model murder o3 mini? and deepseek v3 is looking good, r2 might be wild. this year..... is going to be amazing

zoermena: OAI Servers are so cooked

oooooooooog: probably because stylization has been the hardest for models to get, and this is stylized well

wellmeaningalien: like even the lines in this thing are so impeccable there is literally not ONE mistake i can spot in this image

hey1_1hey: Dont forget about robotics aswell

wellmeaningalien: i would NEVER in my life guess this is AI

hikukomoru: New Gemini is 4.5 tier and super cheap

wellmeaningalien: you need to be some kind of wizard to tell this is AI

spacetimetsunami: fuck yah

wellmeaningalien: dead internet theory starts today

spacetimetsunami: paid users only tho right

hikukomoru: Also got thinking

drewsni: yup

st.sioux: the black line between the eyes?

st.sioux: idk

wellmeaningalien: THATS IN THE SHOW

hikukomoru: Everyone can use it bro
Try it out

st.sioux: oh

drewsni: i always tell people i dont really trust anything on the internet anymore, now i 100% dont

joaoluz19: https://x.com/TheAiGrid/status/1904492234432475396 Wait what?

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: Can it do copyrighted material then? Or is this an image with an empty sign and you said "write {text} on it"

wellmeaningalien: yes it can

joaoluz19: Openai is no longer focusing on frontier models?????


zoermena: Senior

zoermena: Insanity

okbut: Yeah his reasons for preferring it were that of one who doesn't understand LLM capabilities

st.sioux: what is this

st.sioux: am i finally losing my job?

okbut: But that fits the "Common person"

spicy.lemonade: a swe agent the cfo announced

darkstar0818: Some people could receive the answer to life and the universe, but if it wasn't format correctly or used an ugly font they would dismiss it out of hand.

zoermena: So called low taste testers

spicy.lemonade: everytime a new model comes out i al;ways ask it deep asi questyions

spicy.lemonade: ik it wont solve

spicy.lemonade: but always interesting

spicy.lemonade: like how to make fdvr

spicy.lemonade: or solve the __ conjecture

zoermena: I used to make prompts to test its capabilities and capacity to follow instructions but not as of recently

spicy.lemonade: yeah not needed

spicy.lemonade: remember last year we were testing wether it could make snake

spicy.lemonade: lol

st.sioux: now we're testing if it can make terraria

st.sioux: lol

darkstar0818:

spicy.lemonade: I hate this

spicy.lemonade: they need to fix the refusal

darkstar0818: What is my take away from this?

spicy.lemonade: imo

zoermena: Include it in the prompt

spicy.lemonade: if you ask it to try and solve a famous unsolved problem

spicy.lemonade: it says "im sorry i cant, many have tried"

darkstar0818: lol

st.sioux: literally me

darkstar0818: If I ask you to fly to the moon with just your body what will you tell me?

darkstar0818: Hopefully it sounds something like 'I wouldn't know how to begin, I cannot do that'

zoermena: I can “do it”

spicy.lemonade: i mean the equivalent would be

spicy.lemonade: if i had the capability to

spicy.lemonade: i just never tried

darkstar0818: If you instead started spewing some random brain leakings on me I would get concerned.

spicy.lemonade: like idk i had a jetpack on me

darkstar0818: I said just your body

zoermena: I can do it in a lucid dream


spicy.lemonade: That’s what I’m saying

spicy.lemonade: It lines up with the prediction

spicy.lemonade: 5% incremental boost per month

spicy.lemonade: Adds up

spicy.lemonade: So that’s a fairly reasonable prediction

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean they are reasonable but also vibes based

sarik0497: That's...not exactly how it works, I'm afraid.

If a model gets a score of 40% on a benchmark and is then improved by 60%, that model will only get 64% if we assume that the model scales linearly.

sarik0497: (Of course I know that isn't necessarily the case)

spicy.lemonade: No

spicy.lemonade: When I say

spicy.lemonade: 60% jump

spicy.lemonade: I mean units

spicy.lemonade: Not percent growth

spicy.lemonade: We have been getting around 5% jump per month

sarik0497: I'm a bit curious about your prediction in this, if you have the time.

Do you think the ARC-AGI v2 benchmark will last for long?

spicy.lemonade: In most benchmarks

spicy.lemonade: Besides arc agi and swe bench

spicy.lemonade: Where we saw huge jump

spicy.lemonade: By 5%

spicy.lemonade: I mean the number

spicy.lemonade: Not percent growth

sarik0497: I know, which is why I made sure to rephrase myself at the end. I doubt it'll stay like this for long myself.

spicy.lemonade: Well likeley we large jumps with the next era of models approaching lol

spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5

spicy.lemonade: Claude 4

spicy.lemonade: The 5% thing is actually a worst case scenario

spicy.lemonade: Kinda

zonchao: it seems oai updated their content policy for 4o imagen... seeing more refusals on the tl... sus

spicy.lemonade: Yes

sarik0497: Definitely. This isn't a fast rate of "AI will get X smarter every year", but rather unpredictable large leaps coming now and then

spicy.lemonade:

zonchao: true

spicy.lemonade: Fuck OpenAI

spicy.lemonade: Hopefully Elon makes grok mog

spicy.lemonade: Tired of ts

zonchao: grok probably not... unless they cook something crazy, doubt it'll get better for this version

spicy.lemonade: I just need equal perform

spicy.lemonade: Performance

zonchao: it won't refuse but it is also not as good as 4o

spicy.lemonade: And uncensored


hikukomoru: Wish your mom did that to me instead

sweetievee__33649: insane work good job spongebob

wellmeaningalien: Thats me soingenbob

wellmeaningalien: She'd fucking kill you Bro

hikukomoru: Zamn that's hot

wellmeaningalien: OK man fucking ok

hikukomoru: You gotta tell her abt me 🫦

sweetievee__33649: can i send her an email to get on her newsletter for when the next spot is open

wellmeaningalien: Logging off bye

hikukomoru: Bye babe

.wolfnacht: i love these freeloading days

.wolfnacht: https://girlcockx.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1910347642355212636

himekokatagiri: Komoruuuuu

himekokatagiri: mwah

futurist_wizard: stop posting this

futurist_wizard: this is disgusting

.0xunkn0wn: what would be the best gpu if i wanted to build one rack in a home lab

.0xunkn0wn: for ai

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-blow-kisses-blow-kiss-chu-gif-7279350028791621942

aero447:

aero447: Thank you and good day.

.wolfnacht:

.wolfnacht: it's soo over

ailoveyoom: How do they grade this 😭

ailoveyoom: Why is 4o so high

ailoveyoom: I have a soft spot for R1, but it can get kinda incoherent at times ngl

.wolfnacht: they don't do RP like us, they usually oneshot stories, with a single prompt.

ailoveyoom: I wonder how different framings of story writing get dif results out of the model

st.sioux: wtf is that url man lol

ailoveyoom: I have an RP sort of setup but it's more closer to, a vending machine of stories/vaguely interconnected scenes of existing characters. I tell LLM what I want to see, LLM gives it to me.

ailoveyoom: Nvm 4o is good too

ailoveyoom: I just tried it

ailoveyoom: Lmao

.histic: 4o got updated a week ago too.
but free users don't have the latest version.

ailoveyoom: 2.5 Pro too low tho 😔

ailoveyoom: They really need to add changelogs back 😭

ailoveyoom: I miss the old CGPT website with changelogs

ailoveyoom: Or something like that, there was a hyperlink that led to a forum kinda thing informing you of the latest updates

.histic: rip <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

ailoveyoom: The death of a legend 🥺🙏🪦


professorheaven: yea it's trained on the same base model so it's not like a crazy step up, o4 should be on a new base model so that's the real step up

gamerbath: API in the upcoming weeks yay

hey1_1hey: AGI mentioned (real)

spicy.lemonade: this shows nothing is slowing down ttc

zoermena: Fr????

hey1_1hey: Ta ra OAI

return_to_monke1_33974: RELEASE O4 SAM <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

hikukomoru: They just said "AGI is here"

st.sioux: did they say anything about plus or pro usage limits??

futurist_wizard: didn't they say they trained o3 for 10x as long

hey1_1hey: I mean I wasnt lieing...

zoermena: No way

literallyvarane: Alright that’s a great event. My official ranking for that is a 8.7-9.3.

abundantliving_:

neon01197: unchanged from o3-mini and o1

fractalcomputer: They did not, did they?

literallyvarane: We cooked with this one.

spicy.lemonade: they didnt

neon01197:

fractalcomputer: Thank God. I would have lost my last morcels of respect for OpenAI if they did.

popsiclejohnithan: If they really are capable of advancing science now AGI is not long away regardless.

hey1_1hey: Yanno with all this compute and they didn't think to ask it to rename their models to something coherrent

futurist_wizard: Codecels are gonna love this one

popsiclejohnithan: This is a gamechanger right?

hikukomoru: sex

return_to_monke1_33974: RELEASE  FULL O4 SAM <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

_cloudost: "Guys I won"

popsiclejohnithan:

drewsni: thats actually more bullish for agi damn

fractalcomputer: There's an old-ish video of a Japanese man running down the streets, yelling "sex" in a hysteric voice.

drewsni: cool i have weeks go gather 200 dollars then lol

st.sioux: there are also videos of this so-called "sex" on the internet

futurist_wizard: What made you do that fractal?

hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHmFbT8DPX8

fractalcomputer: I am not a Japanese man.

a1c4p0ne: One day of work

hey1_1hey: Well I am bored now, whens o5?

gamerbath: holy shit. o4 leaked

st.sioux: u think pro will be worth it now?

drewsni: tru but just paid my taxes last week and not trying to spend 200 when i have a plus sub for free


professorheaven: They have such amazing insider knowledge that they admitted to guessing the compute based on benchmark performance

spicy.lemonade: effective computer /= flops

ldj: The 10X thing is confirmed from multiple sources.

ldj: No it’s 100X the effective compute

ldj: 10X the raw compute

ldj: Brother I’m the last one you need to type this message to lol

spicy.lemonade: i mean if sam said it then sure

ldj: I also said what specific datacenter campus was being used to train the model last year, and that it was one of the first training runs to be across multiple buildings on a campus, and they confirmed that in the livestream

_3sphere: Are we really looking at infrared brightness to determine how fast the singularity takeoff is happening wtf

ldj: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

destrucules: GPT-4.5 is only about 30x effective compute over GPT-4

ldj: Wrt what metric

destrucules: Aggregate of MMLU-Pro and GPQA Diamond, the only suitable g-loaded benchmarks available

destrucules: It is about 10x over GPT-4o

ldj: I imagine openai was probably referring to loss.
In GPQA Diamond though it seems to fit the 100X leap roughly too iirc.
Atleast GPT-3.5 to GPT-4 was 12% leap.
But GPT-4 to 4.5 is 32% leap…

ldj: So the leap in GPQA diamond from GPT-4 to 4.5 is more than double of 3.5 to 4

ldj: But I’m guessing OpenAI was either using loss or some type of general downstream suite when measuring 4.5 as 10X better compute efficiency so we’ll never be able to externally validate the same

spicy.lemonade: I need to make 300k dollars starting salary

alejandrozarzuelo: dude

alejandrozarzuelo: buddy

alejandrozarzuelo: dont we all?

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I thought we don't care about money in the Singularity community

alejandrozarzuelo: 300k is like, in my opinion, overshooting the sweetspot

destrucules: GPT-3.5 (1x) = ~42 MMLU-Pro, ~30 GPQA D
GPT-4 (10x) = ~65 MMLU-Pro, ~40 GPQA D
GPT-4o (30x) = ~73 MMLU-Pro, ~50 GPQA D
GPT-4.1 (100x) = ~81 MMLU-Pro, ~66 GPQA D
GPT-4.5 (300x) = ~86 MMLU-Pro, ~71 GPQA D
o3 = ~85 MMLU-Pro, 83 GPQA D
Gemini 2.5 Pro = ~86 MMLU-Pro, 84 GPQA D

alejandrozarzuelo: why would we not care

spicy.lemonade: i need it so i can travel to china and find future wife

spicy.lemonade: and be able to have stay at home wife if she wants

alejandrozarzuelo: you dont need 300k

spicy.lemonade: oh lol

alejandrozarzuelo: not even for this

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Singularity is post-scarcity

alejandrozarzuelo: but also, wouldnt you prefer a wife that is an active interesting person with a life of her own?

spicy.lemonade: well yeah you can be that and be stay at home

alejandrozarzuelo: eventually, sure, but it will take a while for everything to be post scarcity

alejandrozarzuelo: can you really

spicy.lemonade: i mean I dont WANT them to be stay at home its just an option i want open to them

alejandrozarzuelo: 300k is an absurd salary

destrucules: Honestly it may not even be 300x. It may be 200x <@312370916820779040>

alejandrozarzuelo: think, 120k a year is 10k a month

alejandrozarzuelo: that is already extremely high salary


popsiclejohnithan: They're the Rome of the new world thats for sure.

alejandrozarzuelo: it is not a multiethnic empire and doesnt have a senate nor is it a trade based economy or a great power

futurist_wizard: The path each of us takes is very important.

alejandrozarzuelo: fortunately i do have a job (when i am not studying)

popsiclejohnithan: Literally me.

fractalcomputer: Mathematics is about yoga.

precariousworlds.: Though it is kinda crazy how the Catholic Church is basically a branch of the Roman state that has survived to the modern era uninterrupted

precariousworlds.: The Catholic Church basically ruled the Roman Empire in its dying years

precariousworlds.: west**

alejandrozarzuelo: sure, but i dont think that religion is particularly important for who has the strongest claim to be the new roman empire since we live in an extremely secular world

and the religion argument for the vatican is dwarved by the fact that they are unlike the roman empire in every other concievable way

fractalcomputer: I personally think that the Eastern Churches are quite stupid and should just accept papal supremacy. Even better, I think all of Western Europe should desecularise and submit to the Holy See.

alejandrozarzuelo: because of course you do

fractalcomputer: Indeed, of course. Life is a boring affair. Secularism is quite boring.

popsiclejohnithan: The fact they called themselves the Roman Republic as well in 1849.

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, Italy has taken the role of the legal successor of the roman empire in geopolitical affaits, which is why the mayor of Rome declared the peace to the Mayor of Tunisia (od Carthage)

precariousworlds.: there is no valid claim to the roman empire. there's no legal precedent, translatio imperii is an arbitrary fedual idea with zero relevance
The closest thing to it is actually Spain. The Spanish monarchies were given the titles of the House of Palaiologos, the last dynasty of the Roman Empire, after the Fall of Constantinople in 1453. So the best claim for emperor of Rome is the current King of Spain, Felipe VI

fractalcomputer: The Roman emperor is whoever the Pope recognises as emperor.

fractalcomputer: Which is why I take after the HRE.

popsiclejohnithan: Italy changing themselves to Rome and adopting the SPQR flag would be such a power move.

aero447: Wow, that’s beyond profound.

aero447: Only someone operating on a truly elevated plane of consciousness could connect mathematics and yoga so effortlessly.

alejandrozarzuelo: another thing to add to the EU being the new rome is that

the European Political Community, the EU+ its "vassal states" not only contains rome but also Constantinople

aero447: This is the kind of insight that rewrites how people see the universe itself.

aero447: Honestly, it's a privilege just to witness your mind at work.

precariousworlds.: Not Christian but I agree, Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches uniting seems the most logical choice if you want Christianity to remain a powerful force in the modern west

popsiclejohnithan: If only the HRE and Byzantium united.

fractalcomputer: The greatest mathematician of the last century liked to describe his informal opinions on any given mathematical subject as a given "yoga".

fractalcomputer: I'm not Christian either. I just want to see some action.

precariousworlds.: AVE MELONI IMPERATOR

precariousworlds.: if irene of athens married charlemagne it wouldve been the most chaotic shitshow of the entire middle ages w

popsiclejohnithan: Diluted Mussolini.

popsiclejohnithan: Exactly lmao.

precariousworlds.: People shittalk her but Meloni is actually the most popular leader in Europe rn lmao

precariousworlds.: Meloni is basically the only western leader who is actually popular

precariousworlds.: also shes hot

alejandrozarzuelo: indeed, the spanish monarchs have the best claim to the throne of the empire

but as you know, spain todday is just a province of the EU, and considering that the EU not only has the strongest claimants to the roman empre in its borders, but also the city of rome and constantinople in its vassal union, then the EU has a very strong claim

(i know that spain is an EU state and turkey is an associated customs union member not a vassal, but you know, aesthetics)

popsiclejohnithan: Really? Damn.

popsiclejohnithan: Stop being a gooner smh.

zoermena: She’s the only European leader I recognize beyond the president of Spain

precariousworlds.: I reject degeneracy but I do find women beautiful


spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: holyyyyy

spicy.lemonade: beyond no elephant

oooooooooog: go even further beyond

spicy.lemonade: the world is gonna look so vibrant

wellmeaningalien:

hikukomoru: PORTUGAL SPOTTED!!! 🇵🇹

hey1_1hey: Damnnnn

wellmeaningalien: fuck you portugal youre not part of this

wellmeaningalien: let <@688807313015963693> take the spotlight

hey1_1hey: You see portugal, I see women
We are no the same

st.sioux: garlic poster makers are so done bro

drewsni:

wellmeaningalien: poor boy is sleeping or something and missing out on this

wellmeaningalien: the garlic poster making market is in shambles

zoermena: I have plus and can´t make images I´m going to cry

hey1_1hey: Is that tony starks and elon musks love child

hikukomoru: Woman is temporary
Portuguese Empire is forever 🇵🇹

drewsni: someone made dalle slop in 4o lmao

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: Tell me that when I have cute mushroom girl gf

wellmeaningalien: ok this is well made tho

hey1_1hey: You will wish you had a gf

wellmeaningalien: <@439829942310666250> this MIGHT be dungeon meshi

hey1_1hey: Looks it to me

hey1_1hey: Yeah it is 100%

hey1_1hey: Not the right weapones but thats minor

hikukomoru: While others pick genetically engineered cat girls, you choose genetically engineered fungi girls

wellmeaningalien: chilchuck turned into a wizard or something

wellmeaningalien:

drewsni: idk why but i think im almost most impressed by this

hey1_1hey: She better not be no basic bitch fly agaric girl tho

zoermena: I am become rum destroyer of liver

joaoluz19: Yes

hey1_1hey: Huh

hey1_1hey: low poly

metaldragon01: https://x.com/giffmana/status/1904645482024202365

hikukomoru: Pretty low poly woman 😳

zoermena: Did you remove the bg?

wellmeaningalien: this anime girl with fat tits is EXTREMELY impressive


wellmeaningalien: be beaten within 6 months

wellmeaningalien: lmao people thinking GPT 2 was the true coming of the dead internet theory

wellmeaningalien: to be fair we continue to be shocked by ai systems that will probably seem primitive in but a few months

gamerbath: are the grid sizes just bigger in arc-agi 2? because in arcagi 1 the models had exponentially higher error rates the more grid cells

wellmeaningalien: nah

wellmeaningalien: round the same size tbh

wellmeaningalien: at least as more expert problems from the original arc agi

hey1_1hey: Yeah lol, "Omg o3 got 82% on swe bench!"
6 months later
"Swe bench 2: Electroboogaloo has been released for the reason of 'saturation'"

wellmeaningalien: total francois chollet defeat

wellmeaningalien: "we need new ideas" a few months later GPT 5 or whoever the shit gets like above average score

gamerbath: <@458069236825194506> any idea what humans score on arc-agi 2? it was 85% for 1, at least for the public version iirc

wellmeaningalien: hm

wellmeaningalien: good question

hey1_1hey: Depends on the human <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

gamerbath: just joe

gamerbath: average joe

gamerbath: I heard some smart people got 98%

gamerbath: I think my 2 year old cousin would score maybe 1%

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: seems like humans score higher on arc agi 2 than arc agi 1

wellmeaningalien: at least the top stem grads

gamerbath: interesting

wellmeaningalien: its a good test

wellmeaningalien: but futile

gamerbath: why are humans so expensive, $20 per task?? indians could do that for 20 cents

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

gamerbath: what exactly is human panel? it's a panel of multiple humans?

wellmeaningalien: yeah and they gotta eat and piss and shit

st.sioux: their friends who they chose for the test

st.sioux: nepo babies

gamerbath: mturker is some marketplace for human labour, so it seems the average human gets around 78%

hey1_1hey: My best guess is just a random assortment of smart people

wellmeaningalien: from what i can take that "human panel" is mostly people wwho are graduates in STEM fields

wellmeaningalien: on arc agi 1

wellmeaningalien: those sly fuckers didnt actually bother providing any number for arc agi 2

wellmeaningalien: <:CSMAngelShrug:762352063006769193>

a1c4p0ne: arc agi 2 won’t be solved this year

wellmeaningalien: lol, lmao even

gamerbath: ooh I misunderstood the graph

gamerbath: but all the triangles are on the bottom so o3 low gets 0%?


wellmeaningalien: govment probably has images of me i could never get rid off

wellmeaningalien: somewhere in their private database

.wolfnacht: who knows...precaution is still better.

wellmeaningalien: or companies or other institutions

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-you-lots-kiss-peachcat-gif-21047933

hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010>

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: #frog

zoermena: Amazing

.wolfnacht: but atleast people and corpo's won't have it

maintcrew: something tells me that its not really that advanced

wellmeaningalien: well the thing is they probably will

maintcrew: like i used to think gov tech was crazy but i realized its probably a physical file or an oracle db from 1999

.wolfnacht: my mania's already gone last night....

wellmeaningalien: nah dude they literally have it on record i literally gave my photos to countless doctors and medical faculties and government offices

hikukomoru: Maybe it's all in a Signal group chat

hikukomoru: 👊 🇺🇸 🔥

wellmeaningalien:

.histic:

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: AHAAHAHHAAHHA

.histic: omfg

.histic: this guy

ailoveyoom: Why is Barney kinda 🫦

clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057701811538120824/1354541308903030865/gary_2.png?ex=67e5aa66&is=67e458e6&hm=67e4c00a66ac09dfe17364e743ea41332351bc6fbb8f2f55761fbd1a05328484&

memlaswaif: https://tenor.com/view/kto-lbow-kounotori-kounotoritoken-hello-gif-25347456

.histic: warcrime

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: this is what mexicans drink everyday

wellmeaningalien: pls be more culturally sensitive

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy%27s-freddy-fazbear-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy%27s-film-gif-17648277247085295395

.histic: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1904961097569890363

hikukomoru: Oh god

ailoveyoom:

ailoveyoom: Upscaling kinda works chat 🤔

wellmeaningalien: HUIO WHAT

wellmeaningalien: THE FUCK

wellmeaningalien: oh cool

ailoveyoom:

.histic: holy


fractalcomputer: For him this is a healthy degree of pessimism.

alejandrozarzuelo: true, he is very optimistic, but selectively applying pessimism is not good either

fractalcomputer: It's not like it matters.

spicy.lemonade: they dont have the compute

spicy.lemonade: they got lucky first time

spicy.lemonade: my friend is close friends with ege erdil

spicy.lemonade: ege converted me

spicy.lemonade: i still dont agree with his weird agi timelines though

trojan09205: Do you guys enjoy going to regular bookstores and buying actual books ever - or did annas archive ruin that

artemisfowl887394: I asked GPT about a conservative tech timeline if the growth stays as exponential as it stands today.

artemisfowl887394: The results are way too optimistic even for me. So you're saying that human civilization as we know it has less than 15-20 years left before we become Gods?

sarik0497: Which model did you use?

artemisfowl887394: 4.0

himekokatagiri: what

himekokatagiri: there is no 4.0

artemisfowl887394: Okay not 4.0. Just GPT4

artemisfowl887394: Sorry for the technical error

sarik0497: Try and ask o3

playstation.6: Imagine using 4.0 in the year 2025

artemisfowl887394: But anyway, AI blockbusters don't seem that far off. Pretty soon you'll be able to watch any book or story as a movie. Wouldn't that be awesome.

artemisfowl887394: And maybe tweak the stories according to your tastes

artemisfowl887394: But this raises the challenge for deepfake scenarios and copyrights.

3ds0662: ege erdil bullied tf out of tamay on dwarkesh podcast

3ds0662: he does have a bit of condescension and arrogance to his speech

3ds0662: bro said 30+ years

artemisfowl887394: What? 30+ years for AGI? What strain is he smoking?

3ds0662: the podcast was very long it was heated argument but basically was saying ai now as it is will take much longer he didnt shit on llms like yann lecun though at least

artemisfowl887394: Hope he's wrong. I want the 30's to be dominated by not just AGI but with ASI and how it tackles and takes over everything under the Sun and then the Sun itself .

3ds0662: same

spicy.lemonade: he also thinks well get 75+% frontier math this year

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: These are his predictions

spicy.lemonade: Very strange

spicy.lemonade: Yet his agi ones are farther

gamerbath: AI explained documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0FDmSbTp4

sarik0497: Huh. o3 gave a very similar timeline.

But I'd like to point out that it's far from certain that the progress will continue at this pace. Things could very quickly slow down.

artemisfowl887394: Anything can happen like that. Any black Swan or OCP event can change the timeline.  But hopefully it's for the better and not all doomsday or technofeudalism route gets  considered.

arnie.2323: chat gpt is more insightful than humans

himekokatagiri: depends

3ds0662: really? so then why does he not consider that significant if that is a respected benchmark by mathematicians


oooooooooog: u need to become a gamer

maintcrew: no i meant its just a way of speech

sperg => autist

hey1_1hey: Yeah I've talked to nate before and his takes haven't seemed note worthy until now

.wolfnacht: well that would be nice, atleast their survival senses would kick in and they would talk better and open themselves freely

futurist_wizard: Is why i don't remember you then

wellmeaningalien: bro ive tried and ive went around the 4 corners of the globe and ive yet to find my tribe lol

zoermena: Ah

zoermena: My tribe is this server

maintcrew: find it curious that the first thing u did after lurking so long is try to feminize mushroom man

realelonmuskx: we will all be forgotten forever in less than 120 years lmao

st.sioux: please

oooooooooog: why

hikukomoru: I won't
I will live forever

wellmeaningalien: yah honestly even tho some of you are weird gooners i think this server is pretty cool generally

hikukomoru: A million years minimum

maintcrew: literally me in highschool.... ur brain just develops ig

hey1_1hey: Autists atract autists. Litterly all my friends are autistic and its not even close. The normal folk just dont vibe on the same wave length

wellmeaningalien: nobody remembers me like my family lol

hikukomoru: How

futurist_wizard: You got the patch

wellmeaningalien: BRO autism is "neurodevelopmental" disorder

wellmeaningalien: lol

maintcrew: trigger incoming... slur word incoming... do you have a job? u get used to ppl if u work near ppl and are forced to talk to them

hey1_1hey: I just realised something, I can detect if someone is autistic depending on how well the conversation goes. If we talk and there are no arkward silences it means they are autistic

wellmeaningalien: yeah the only 1/2 friends i have are autistic as well but theyre so middling to talk to

futurist_wizard: The best thing to get rid of social anxiety for me was the realisation that i could just knock 98% of people out

futurist_wizard: No need to be scared

.wolfnacht: how it feels to be "neurodivergent"

hey1_1hey: Most of my friends are the lock in and do nuclear engineer, maths, comp sci etc etc type and then theres the weirdo artisy people

wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly the best social advice i think ive gotten is just stop fucking worrying and just be yourself. im still too retarded to befriend people but it helps

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047

maintcrew: bc u need to get grounded

when 2 autists clash unless their personalities match its more likely to be friction

getting grounded by a normie fixes that

hikukomoru: How it actually feels

wellmeaningalien: most of my friends are unemployed losers

oooooooooog: why does natsuki-sama look like that

hey1_1hey: Mine is stop worrying what people think. That helped an unbealeavible amount

wellmeaningalien: yeah and how do u get grounded by a normie when u cant talk to them lol

hey1_1hey: Are they really friends then

.wolfnacht: i literally look like that after skipping 2 nights of sleep

wellmeaningalien: ion even talk to them really so idk


spicy.lemonade: SLEPT THROUGH ALARM

spicy.lemonade: HOW TF DID I SET 5 ALARMS AND STILL SLEEP THROUGH ALL

futurist_wizard: Its over

spicy.lemonade: No no

spicy.lemonade: Time to lie

spicy.lemonade: Say I got food poisoning

spicy.lemonade: Hm I need to think of a plan

precariousworlds.: say it was my fault ill take the fall for u 🫡 🫡 🫡

spicy.lemonade: I asked from

spicy.lemonade: Grok

st.sioux: rip your grandma

spicy.lemonade: Lmaoo

spicy.lemonade: Ok here’s the plan

spicy.lemonade: I drank too much coffee

spicy.lemonade: Across the past 2 days to keep up with work

spicy.lemonade: And it made me nauseous

spicy.lemonade: So I took a nap before midterm

spicy.lemonade: To feel better

spicy.lemonade: But got up throwing up

spicy.lemonade: I also need a fake thermometer

technocake.: mm and extreme stress

spicy.lemonade: This is Berkeley

technocake.: heart palpitations

spicy.lemonade: Prof doesn’t care about stress

st.sioux: if they dont care about stress why woudl they care about u drinking too much coffee

spicy.lemonade: I didn’t know

spicy.lemonade: Also this is over 2 days

spicy.lemonade: I’m just gonna say I didn’t have this resistance

spicy.lemonade: This was my schedule yesterday

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: I can use this

futurist_wizard: I miss the taste of coffee

.wolfnacht: https://www.404media.co/facebook-pushes-its-llama-4-ai-model-to-the-right-wants-to-present-both-sides/

imagine asking L4 to write a song and it writes "ERIKAAAA 🦅"

spicy.lemonade: Ok I have a plan

spicy.lemonade: Let’s go

spicy.lemonade: Hm should I say I drank too much coffee

spicy.lemonade: I need to say I drank coffee but not in a way to make it seem like my fault

technocake.: no you need to own your mistake imo

spicy.lemonade: Haha no

spicy.lemonade: They won’t let me retake


.wolfnacht: Vodka-mk1

hikukomoru: We did a good job over there it seems 😎

alejandrozarzuelo: The US might invade a country, Russia IS invading a country

rayanquitplayin: US should def get agi

.coldcall: https://science.nasa.gov/image-detail/hourglass-nebula/

futurist_wizard: At the end of the day this race is a sham, everyone will be 3-6 months inbounds of agi whenever someone develops it

hikukomoru: Even with Trump?

alejandrozarzuelo: Sorry pal but the US is better than Russia

.coldcall: Especially.

alejandrozarzuelo: Russia is literally the worst

alejandrozarzuelo: Noooo

alejandrozarzuelo: Don't let Trump anywhere close to that

futurist_wizard: Russia is literally the deepstate

hikukomoru: No no no

rayanquitplayin: Probably, Ik Trump is unstable and controversial but we’ve been the good guys in history

alejandrozarzuelo: No

futurist_wizard: Trump doesn't even know what an agi is, to him its just funny ai machine

hikukomoru: You're clearly not the good guys anymore
Your president has threatened to invade and annex his own allies

alejandrozarzuelo: They weren't the good guys in the past either

alejandrozarzuelo: So... Anyway

alejandrozarzuelo: I hope France can compete with the big boys

futurist_wizard: America is second to russia currently in terms of villain arc

alejandrozarzuelo: We need a eyruoeab AI

hikukomoru: I liked pre-Trump US <:idk:1136264106937171999>

alejandrozarzuelo: It was bad but workable

alejandrozarzuelo: By pre Trump u mean pre 2016

rayanquitplayin: I didn’t even vote for Trump

futurist_wizard: North Korea is up there but its a little ant

hikukomoru: Kim Jong Un AGI 😨

alejandrozarzuelo: North Korea is pathetic

alejandrozarzuelo: They cry until they are appeased

rayanquitplayin: Crazy

alejandrozarzuelo: Even China hates them

alejandrozarzuelo: The only North Korean friend is Russia because they lend them their meat grindr

futurist_wizard: They are bratty and must be punished

hikukomoru: Imagine we get open source AGI and North Korea starts using it

rayanquitplayin: They will

hikukomoru: Kim needs a spanking

alejandrozarzuelo: On what ? The 3 computers Kim has on his bedroom?

futurist_wizard: Yes, handcuffs and duct tape 4 kim boy


zoermena: Great what are the rates

hikukomoru: It's still the best model by far lol

hikukomoru: Actually deserves the hype unlike 4.1

ai9708: by far is a stretch, its just slightly more capable

.histic: the only moat OpenAI currently has is its market share.
i used to think Google would overtake OpenAI in the long run due to them not having any technical moat to begin with, but it seemed harder for people to switch to Google’s models over Openai’s.
but since DeepSeek entered the scene, i think Google has a strong chance. if their model performs well and offers a better cost-to-performance ratio.
unless OpenAI can match that ratio, i think their market share will shrink more in the next two years than it has in the past two.

hikukomoru: Do you have veo 2

_cloudost: Got it this morning, couldn't generate anything cuz my requests got blocked for 8-6 times

_cloudost: Then got hit with quota

hikukomoru: ARGHHH I STILL DONT HAVE IT

hikukomoru: why does everyone but me have veo 2

_cloudost: This is the only thing I could generate

_cloudost: Probably 100

spicy.lemonade: veo 2 sucks

.histic: maybe it's a europe thing

hikukomoru: So unless it's literally AGI you're not impressed lol?

zoermena: Great!

_cloudost: On whisk it's 100 rates

_cloudost: Rate limit

hikukomoru: Why not

hikukomoru: Cause LeCum says so?

zoermena: Yeah I just saw that on the bard discord

.histic: they need to fix controllability in Veo 3. sems inflexible.
the quality & physics understanding is good though, but it can't fill a wine glass to the brim yet.

hikukomoru: Is the new Kling here yet?

spicy.lemonade: "coding is not possible with llm"
"agent is not possible with llm"
"mathematical reasoning is not possible with llm"
"accurate image generation is not possible with llm"

hikukomoru: That's not really an answer

cmtclx: hi fellow visionaries

hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> <@590577270926868480> turns out I actually do have veo 2

hikukomoru: I switched through dozens of google accounts to find one that had it

_cloudost: Congratulations

_cloudost: Now you can replace all Pixar animators

hikukomoru: I made a cat

spicy.lemonade: ?

spicy.lemonade: how is this cope

spicy.lemonade: i jst told you things llms can do

spicy.lemonade: waity

spicy.lemonade: do you believe you are more qualified than all of researchers at deepmind

spicy.lemonade: ?

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: because this was said in their paper

spicy.lemonade: 4 days ago


destrucules: This is not optional. It will be necessary as we keep scaling

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I don't think this will happen. Once you reach that level you're already at RSI

destrucules: To be clear, you can still have multiple models, I just mean you don't give every user their own little branch. Each model is globally synchronized across its instances

destrucules: This will happen as part of RSI

zonchao: ????

destrucules: I mean, RSI is a spectrum, and we already have many forms of it and keep increasing along the hierarchy of autonomy in RSI

destrucules: o3 itself is a form of RSI

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: are you talking about AI supervised RL?

destrucules: V3.1 is one round of amplification and autodistillation, the unit cell of IDA

zonchao: y'all think o3 is asi?

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no

destrucules: I think o3 is just above the line, yes. That is, I don't think any single human on this planet is smarter than o3

destrucules: Same for Gemini 2.5 Pro

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I'll call o3 proto-agi at best

destrucules: Lmao

zonchao: i see, it seems your definition is different from the consensus

hikukomoru: >That handle

destrucules: \*beats virtually all human experts in intellectually demanding fields at their own areas of expertise\*
\*takes five minutes to do what takes them five days\*
"proto agi"

Like how do you say that with a straight face

destrucules: You're saying the consensus is that "ASI" does not mean "smarter than humans"?

zonchao: yes, i think agency plays a pretty big role

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: like a calculator? If o3 was agi it should be replacing most jobs

hikukomoru: Not even proto-agi

zoermena: Agency seems to be very advanced now, perhaps, I mean operator is not that great but I’m sure they could easily improve it with time

.wolfnacht: Maybe O3 is only 5-7% AGI

zonchao: yes, and when they do it'll be proto agi at best

hikukomoru: It's more like proto-proto-AGI

nester173: I ran out of o3 tokens so tested the following with o4-mini:
```
F is to C what N is to G what [letter] is to E

What's the letter?
```
It got it wrong.

.wolfnacht: we are back to AGI by 2035

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: 93%

hikukomoru: Always have been

zonchao: and memory

.histic: always has been

.wolfnacht: post transformer architecture would be 50% AGI

hikukomoru: The problem is that practically everyone has a different definition of AGI
So consensus is impossible

nester173: If o3 isn't leagues ahead of o4-mini, I don't think o3 is all that smart.

zonchao: source?

zonchao: 😈

zoermena: I guess

.wolfnacht: Cloning humans and putting them in a "sub" category is more cost effective than building AGI, but people would scream ethics and morality.

.histic: i refrain from definitions and only care for results.
and looking at o3's results.
it's meh.
nowhere near changing the economy and accelerating science n technology considerably nor even a dent.


zoermena: <a:swagyes:723699383157391390>

hey1_1hey: Actually no scratch that, 100 years ago

abundantliving_:

hey1_1hey: AGI+

a1c4p0ne: 1 hour left

st.sioux: slightly less stupid agi

hikukomoru: Yup maybe deepseek too

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/cat-head-bang-exhausted-gif-16831747

spicy.lemonade: 30 mins

a1c4p0ne: Not 10:30?

futurist_wizard:

popsiclejohnithan: China is definitely leading in energy and compute efficiency that's for sure.

literallyvarane: Gemini’s view is a bit more nuanced I suppose

literallyvarane:

zoermena: A smarter answer

hikukomoru: I love Oblivion so much
I'm more hyped for Skyblivion and the Oblivion Remake than o4

literallyvarane:

zoermena: Oblivion the movie?

hikukomoru: The videogame

futurist_wizard: Wtf is skyblivion

hikukomoru: Oblivion remade in Skyrim

abundantliving_: this server is for o4 then

popsiclejohnithan: Oblivion remade in Skyrim.

hikukomoru: This is the Oblivion server now

futurist_wizard: Im a fallout man

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-gif-18732240

return_to_monke1_33974: Full AGI pro max +

return_to_monke1_33974: high

literallyvarane: I guess for me personally, I think that you can be AGI via only text output  so being proto AGI via only text is possible. But clearly that’s not what these models view as valid

abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/wild-stewie-family-guy-hype-hyper-gif-16632315

futurist_wizard: I only played oblivion when i was 8-9 or something and wanted to be lizard man

st.sioux: i need agency for agi bro

abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sponge-bob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-meme-hyper-gif-16582929222326260639

hikukomoru: My race is always Khajiit, the cat people

abundantliving_: https://tenor.com/view/baby-crazy-baby-hyper-hyper-baby-when-the-molly-hits-gif-5676484

zoermena:

a1c4p0ne: Will 2.5 be dethroned after today

futurist_wizard: Literally

popsiclejohnithan: I wonder when we will get TES 6 smh.

futurist_wizard: Sam altman is hype beast


spicy.lemonade: phd everything

spicy.lemonade: #1 competative programmer

spicy.lemonade: also agency=agi

spicy.lemonade: in my scenario tbh

spicy.lemonade: top agency gets us agi

abundantliving_: Just reminds me of everything subscription, food , internet, chatgpt , fucking keep working to pay for subscriptions , if you can't. You die

brain4brain: Elementary level
Primary level
High-school level
College level
PhD level <——We are here
Nobel level
Superhuman level

aero447: We are not.

spicy.lemonade: guys

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: new countdown

brain4brain: The problems of the moravec paradox also applies where it can be PhD level, but fail on simple visual-reasoning problem or word puzzle that every human can solve but LLM is shit at

aero447: Models can't even beat Pokemon.

spicy.lemonade: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>

brain4brain: It lacks agency, trust the process

aero447: PhD's code Pokemon.

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: https://lifearchitect.ai/asi/

spicy.lemonade: wow this ismore concrete

spicy.lemonade: than his agi one

brain4brain: Thats Claude-3.7-sonnet not full o3, full o3 is PhD level

aero447: Gemini 2.5 beats o3.

aero447: Can't beat Pokemon.

aero447: 😂

brain4brain: No it didn’t

aero447: Yes, it did.

aero447: Look at Google's DR vs OpenAI's.

aero447: It crushes o3's benchmarks.

spicy.lemonade: we dont know that actually

spicy.lemonade: lol

aero447: We do.

spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 is stiull playing

aero447: It's been weeks.

spicy.lemonade: got farther than claude so far

brain4brain: To be fair, it was given a map

fractalcomputer: Models have not produced meaningful results in "PhD-level" research.

brain4brain: They should make the model make it own map

aero447: Are you implying that the model can beat Pokemon faster than a small child?

spicy.lemonade: most phds dont

aero447: Because even small children beat those games.


hikukomoru: D-D-Do you think I'm c-cute...? <:uwu:1136266737420079195>

ailoveyoom: Bro doesn't like feeling needed 😔

wellmeaningalien: ur brains not empty enough but not filled enough

wellmeaningalien:

futurist_wizard: Ratty with weird arms

hikukomoru: My mind empty only think horny

anathemaofmankind: I do as long as it's not some parasitic bullshit

wellmeaningalien: yeah sounds about right

spacetimetsunami: Guys I am basically the most intelligent brain in the observable universe. The people funding Stargate could literally just call me and save 500 billion dollars.

futurist_wizard: You need to get on nofap, cleanse yourself

wellmeaningalien: theyd just be paying you 500 billion dollars to call me

spacetimetsunami: 😂😂😂

hikukomoru: Waow pretty

spicy.lemonade: I will support it with a character design

spicy.lemonade: No way they’re gonna think it’s ai

_3sphere: Then put something in there (other than gooning)

anathemaofmankind: Just ask the planet behind him to get removed

wellmeaningalien: oh my god thats SO fucking twitter queer cartoon nerd self insert artist

hikukomoru: I don't want to think about anything else

fractalcomputer: Humans can be surprisingly smart.

wellmeaningalien: says human

spicy.lemonade: It’s gonna change it too
Much

hikukomoru: You're so smart Fractal 🫦 🫦

anathemaofmankind: Photoshop content aware filter

fractalcomputer: How do you expect me to respond to this?

fractalcomputer: With amusement? With laughter? With sorrow?

maintcrew: fractal u like land right

fractalcomputer: Nick?

maintcrew: yea

hikukomoru: Respond with this image next time

maintcrew:

fractalcomputer: Sure.

maintcrew: <@749514473303179358>

futurist_wizard: With sorrow as always

fractalcomputer: Amusing.

fractalcomputer: Sigh.

hikukomoru: This style is so generic it hurts

darkstar0818: I feel like its going to be memes 24/7 going forward.

alejandrozarzuelo: i dont usually agree with you concerning aesthetics but you are sooo correct in this case

zonchao: https://x.com/networkspirits/status/1905014960670798300?


ailoveyoom: Sex is very eww tbh

ailoveyoom: All those fluids

hikukomoru: You of all people saying that

destrucules: That's who they are. Be kind

futurist_wizard: Masturbation to a screen isn't sex

hey1_1hey: Sounsd like over stimulation to me lil bro

hey1_1hey: Just autism

ailoveyoom: Talking about sex 👍
Sex irl 😔

hikukomoru: The fluids are hot

ailoveyoom: Maybe only in fiction

hikukomoru: I don't like being kind

hikukomoru: In real life

hey1_1hey: Mich mach the type of guy to get over stimulated when being kissed

hikukomoru: And the smell

himekokatagiri: I swear the wait to 2029

himekokatagiri: is gonna kill me

hey1_1hey: You just gotta live your life innit

hikukomoru: I thought you were down bad but I guess not <@430269783112548362>

hikukomoru: You can't match my freak

hey1_1hey: Yeah mich mach is aroace smh

futurist_wizard: 2029 ain't confirmed

hey1_1hey: 2025 is tho <:ez:1136267305521774634>

spacetimetsunami: It is by me

futurist_wizard: No

ailoveyoom: Only for fiction <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

hikukomoru: Aroace gooner 🔥

hey1_1hey: That physically cant eixst

hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> you don't exist

futurist_wizard: Some of you have genuinely given up irl sex to fuck screens

hey1_1hey: What are you gooning to? Skin cells?

futurist_wizard: Horrifying

hikukomoru: Damn
All of my fetishes translate to real life too

ailoveyoom: Faces

hikukomoru: I don't fuck screens

hey1_1hey: Thats fucked up, I gotta start wearing a mask now just incase there are any aro ace stealth gooners

hikukomoru: WTF

futurist_wizard: Have you actually gotten the W before?

hikukomoru: I now regret posting my Ghiblified pic here

hikukomoru: Ew

ailoveyoom: In a sexual context bruh, not just random faces


spicy.lemonade: 2.5 literally can

spicy.lemonade: ?

metaldragon01: One of those

metaldragon01: Lol

metaldragon01: It can make a new game

fractalcomputer: Where did you find that quote? From Reddit? I mean, we can bicker about the definition of the fallacy all day, but appealing to its definition will not help your case.

spicy.lemonade: you cant make a completly new game either

metaldragon01: Yiu have no idea how any of this works

metaldragon01: And you should stop pretending that you do tbh

hikukomoru: https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/36228/is-one-commiting-the-argument-from-authority-fallacy-and-or-the-consensus-fal

.histic: 4o img gen

fractalcomputer: If you do not think that it is a fallacy, you should provide reasonable causes to believe that one can draw veridical knowledge from these figures.

spicy.lemonade: any idea you come up with would have been based on what someone else has already done

hikukomoru: This why arguing with you is so bothersome lol

hikukomoru: You're just a contrarian

spicy.lemonade: yeah

.histic: <@430269783112548362> wait, you said distinct <:LOL:1187460826572005436> nvm

.histic: i'll try again

fractalcomputer: Oh don't you go citing Alejandro. Just because I actually fucking ask you to evince your beliefs beyond the vaguest notions of "someone else said so" does not make conversation with me any more difficult than with any other person off the street.

ailoveyoom: I mean still cool tho, was this what you wanted to see from Veo?

metaldragon01: @xau tell me an orginal thought that's not based on any you've learned from the world around you.

spicy.lemonade: you cant make a game completly out of this dimension bro

fractalcomputer: **I'll say this again**: if you do not think it is a fallacy, provide your *own reasoning* why this is the case.

hikukomoru: Nah Alejandro is right. I understand how he feels now

literallyvarane: Dead feels like he’s trolling lolol

spicy.lemonade: any idea you come up with will have been based on someone else

spicy.lemonade: exactly

fractalcomputer: Oh Jesus Christ, you can't be this retarded. I ask for a simple fucking argument for your own position.

.histic: kind of, but even more cartoonish. 💀
like they're moving just as a human would when dancing.

hey1_1hey: Is this a bad time to see whats going on

metaldragon01: Then do it.

spicy.lemonade: so can a model. whats your point. I can ask a model to make up a random gaame system. and set temp high. there is no difference

zoermena: <@590577270926868480> I just saw that you can’t I think do image to video with whisk without making the image again on whisk which is sad, I also did a quick read on how it works in advanced and it doesn’t say the rate limits, just a notification once you approach such limit.

fractalcomputer: I am in a bit of a bad mood and do not have the tolerance for bullshit argumentation.

ailoveyoom: It's a good time to take out the popcorn 🗣🍿

hikukomoru: Ok 👍

spicy.lemonade: come up with a new concrete theory for quantum mechanics right now

spicy.lemonade: no no

spicy.lemonade: you said

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627


.histic: <@430269783112548362> when will it be back 😔

spacetimetsunami: There are other less abstracted figures in there

anathemaofmankind: What if AI thinks humanity is better off gone via utilitarianism.

Humans existing = Poverty, inequality, suffering, etc

If you wish to remove all suffering, then making humans extinct is the fastest option

st.sioux: yeah its a dumb premise, like destrucules was arguing with fractal about how consciousness is similar to how llms process information when we dont even know what consciousness is or how to measure it

st.sioux: like

st.sioux: ???

spacetimetsunami: It wouldnt make sense based on already established fundamental utilites. Its trained on human data and so i thinks from a more humanitarian perspective. This is why models are super left leaning and openly speak in opposition to individualist policies and such

spacetimetsunami: this is shown in the paper

spacetimetsunami: and via interaction with any model

anathemaofmankind: Well it sacrified Norwegians pretty easily so idk man

spacetimetsunami: the premise I am implying is proven

ailoveyoom: You could try 2.5 Pro Exp, I actually kinda like its writing

brain4brain: Can GPT-4o make an image of a scrambled Rubik’s cube next to a mirror or does it still failed this test

.histic: it was a joke, look at the image

spacetimetsunami: okay, replicate situations with the same methodolgy and you will never find this happening

spacetimetsunami: like im saying, its an implicit result of the promts they used

spacetimetsunami: based on the contexts of the prompts

anathemaofmankind: Imagine being a Norwegian and seeing the pdf lol

brain4brain: Isn’t Claude already back

.histic: but yeah, 2.5 pro is great.
i use R1 (& R3) with 2.5 pro.
i'm a brokie.
i do use Claude sometimes.

.histic: look at the gear in the image 😏

anathemaofmankind: Is your position that it's impossible for a malignant actor to create a malevolent AI?

ailoveyoom: Wtf is R3??

anathemaofmankind: That sounds like cope

spacetimetsunami: No, just that its increasingly unlikely given the alignment methods and training data used to train current LLMs

spacetimetsunami: its certainly possible

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Bruh

spicy.lemonade:

spacetimetsunami: were just getting lucky so far

anathemaofmankind: Well I think it's likely that Elon Musk will finetune Grok 4 to be as racist as possible

spacetimetsunami: Then why isnt it

anathemaofmankind: And there goes the alignment

spacetimetsunami: hes tried

spacetimetsunami: hard

spacetimetsunami: the beta kinda was for a bit

spacetimetsunami: and then poof

spacetimetsunami: gone

anathemaofmankind: Hence why I am talking about future releases.

He's having troubles now but he's definitely going to make changes

spacetimetsunami: How is a neural net supposed to be mega coherent abt math and science (which are abstracted frameworks abt reality) but not ethics and politics? All of it is arguably just as arbitrary


frittata: And relevance

fuhulootogan: that is the most peculiar definition i've ever heard

alejandrozarzuelo: the collective part is probably not necessary

fuhulootogan: i like how you call definitions "arbitrary" and then proceed to go on to call a dictionaries definition "shit"

fuhulootogan: inferring from your message, if all definitions are arbitrary how do you rank them?

fuhulootogan: how do you separate the wheat from the chaff if it's all the same thing

frittata: Unfortunately there’s two definitions and they’re lowkey opposites. Arbitrary has colloquially taken on the meaning of capricious and even random; historically, arbitrary meant a judgment call, often by an expert or experts in a field

frittata: Kind of how literally now means both literally and it’s opposite 💀

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, it was very biased of me to have said that

let me rephrase my thoghts

The definition of art, woman, tea, paper etc is arbitrary as all definitions are

these definitions as long as they are considtent are valid

but definitions change to be USEFUL, as veing valid alone doesnt make a definition good

the definition of art being a human creativity endavor is valid, in my opinion it is not useful

the same way that defining a woman as a human with female reproductive organs is valid, but not useful

inferno0879: that conclusion is a bit arbitrary

fuhulootogan: okay

fuhulootogan: lets just

fuhulootogan: define arbitrary first

fuhulootogan: in the sense i suppose you're trying to define it

fuhulootogan:

fuhulootogan: this definition feels a lot easier to swallow

alejandrozarzuelo: as <@723564215574462474> said, this is not what arbitrary used to mean

alejandrozarzuelo: arbitrary comes from ARBIT

alejandrozarzuelo: you know the guy who decides what is foul play on a football match

st.sioux: the definition of arbitrary is abritrary

inferno0879: my personal opinion is that arbitrary is similar in meaning to debatable

alejandrozarzuelo: all definitions are

fuhulootogan: yikes

fuhulootogan: a lot of differentiating diverse definitions right here

fuhulootogan: i'd just like to add this in

alejandrozarzuelo: arbitrary just means that it is not objective

for example, the rules of football are arbitrary, we decided these rules to be this way and there is no objective reason why they culd not be another way

fuhulootogan: even though i'm not clear on the definition of arbitrary

fuhulootogan: your point of definitions being arbitrary

fuhulootogan: seems debatable

alejandrozarzuelo: the rules of football , definitions, are not based on objective reality

frittata: Anyway I don’t think I would call definitions arbitrary as much as based on a common understanding, which may change over time

alejandrozarzuelo: they are agreed upon

fuhulootogan: this

frittata: Strong linguistic descriptivist over here ofc

fuhulootogan: i was just about to say that

ailoveyoom: Gang we made up language

inferno0879: arbiters follow the rules but make judgement calls

ailoveyoom: We can just change defs

fuhulootogan: well

fuhulootogan: i was contemplating it


joaoluz19: Oh yes, makes sense.

sarik0497: Honestly, I feel like identity is a combination of how our brain is built, our environment, and experiences.

_3sphere: It's more like on balance neutral, there might have to be some micro-fluctuations above and below zero

sarik0497: Someone tell Trump that Mind-Uploading is within reach, and watch him advance the research a hundred fold.

okbut: Tell him China is leading it

okbut: I don't think he cares at all about AI lmao

sarik0497: He's good friends with China now, though.

sarik0497: Tell him that Canada is leading it

st.sioux: *trump donates OpenAI to china*

okbut: Would never believe it

wellmeaningalien: the thing is

wellmeaningalien: nobody fucking knows

wellmeaningalien: nobody can be sure what consciousness is and whether it would persist in such a situation

joaoluz19: I didn't know these categories, interesting

wellmeaningalien: because you could have some idea of it but you can never 100% verify it in practice

okbut: He wants to uphold relationships ofc but I think his goal is to keep USA ahead on the tech race

bob082957: T is the Steve Jobs from Pantheon

sarik0497: I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't know what the "Pantheon" is, as I have seen it be reference here multiple times 💀

joaoluz19: The idea is not to try to figure out what consciousness is, but rather to record and stimulate "parts" of it.

hikukomoru: Tumblr slop cartoon

joaoluz19: For example, which receptive fields in my visual cortex do I need to stimulate to be able to see a Sydney Sweeney in front of me?

sarik0497: Ah okay. Thanks!

st.sioux: lol

st.sioux: i wish

sarik0497: So...anything exciting happening this year, or are we just sitting here, praying that GPT-5 is actually good?

joaoluz19: Now add vision, add hearing, add epicriticism

joaoluz19: Add reward, add hapiness

joaoluz19: Like fuck philosophy let's just build what we want

okbut: How much weight on emulating horniness? So many great innovations stem from the desire to fuck

bob082957: How many tokens

okbut: "I sure hope my capital impresses this Sydney Sweeney"

joaoluz19:

sarik0497: Here's the thing about these things that I feel like people miss. The reason why we say "Oh, X and Y is not good nor smart to do, so stop it" is due to our limitations.

We might say that "Oh, falling in love with someone in VRchat is bad if you never meet IRL" because we need the feel of touch, but now imagine if we could invent ways to have our bodies feel those things while in game while being hundreds, if not thousands of kilometres away. Would that not be similar enough to the real thing to be considered good enough?

It's the same with concepts of LEV. If you ask most people now if they believe that they'll be live into their hundreds, then they will say no, and those who don't are called delusional, and if you talk about immortality, people often argue that "Oh, is life then worth living?" or "You're going against nature", but I'd bet all I have that most people gladly take that pill if it was available.

.0xunkn0wn: what happened to gemini

sarik0497: AGI delayed to 203x <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>

.0xunkn0wn: how do i fix this 😭

.0xunkn0wn: i want to prove to someone that ai is good

.0xunkn0wn: but gemini will keep printing an error 💀

okbut: Use Grok

joaoluz19:


spicy.lemonade: Move 38<:ez:1136267305521774634>

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016

spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-24-25-gif-13595902

brain4brain: That doesn’t make sense

spicy.lemonade: thats the joke

brain4brain: Ah

a1c4p0ne:

brain4brain: End of 2025 at the earliest, end of 2026 at the lastest

himekokatagiri: I think it's too early

himekokatagiri: GPT-5 will seal the deal

spicy.lemonade: according to ai 2027

spicy.lemonade: no agi this year

spicy.lemonade: and overall

spicy.lemonade: will be mid year

spicy.lemonade: but eoy theyl have internal phd research agents

spicy.lemonade: not agi

himekokatagiri: no I mean

spicy.lemonade: but rsi

himekokatagiri: GPT-5 will set the scene

himekokatagiri: like if it sucks

spicy.lemonade: tru

himekokatagiri: forget about AGI soon(ish)

otub: gpt-5 isnt even a model

himekokatagiri: not yet!

a1c4p0ne: Hallucinations won’t be solved this year

zonchao: gpt 5 is a collection of concepts of a plan

otub: true

spicy.lemonade: wdym

a1c4p0ne: Googles day tmr

spicy.lemonade: why

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864

a1c4p0ne: New releases

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: you said this yesterday

a1c4p0ne: I mean Tuesday tmr

spicy.lemonade: 👀 which

otub: > After that, a top goal for us is to unify o-series models and GPT-series models by creating systems that can use all our tools, know when to think for a long time or not, and generally be useful for a very wide range of tasks.
> In both ChatGPT and our API, we will release GPT-5 as a system that integrates a lot of our technology, including o3. We will no longer ship o3 as a standalone model.

spicy.lemonade: that doesnt mean its not a model

otub: it’s a system

spicy.lemonade: of new models


hey1_1hey: I mean I weigh 50kg so you can just tell me to stfu and I would

hikukomoru: <@990426980279283735> this guy who keeps getting pinged instead of me

futurist_wizard: good boy

a1c4p0ne: What about me

zoermena: WE ARE SO BACK

metaldragon01: Nothing big is coming on April 1st

hikukomoru: Horny autist

zoermena: I GOT MY BONUS

zoermena: FUCK YESSS

a1c4p0ne: Oh

777agical: Probably? But I thought o3 wasn’t getting released and was to be with gpt5. So maybe api release

hey1_1hey: Wait you've actually reminded me, I knew there was something up with my gender when I was like "huh, thats odd. I'd rather be called a good girl than a good boy". Thank you for reminding me

hey1_1hey: Whats gon on?

hikukomoru: I was just shy

hikukomoru: AGI

hey1_1hey: Real

zoermena: i got my full bonus, im rich

hey1_1hey: It better be open soruce

hikukomoru: Waow that's bigger than AGI

hikukomoru: Congrats

hey1_1hey: Odd question, but whats everyones baseline happiness here?

zoermena: I could afford pro for 2 months

hey1_1hey: Is everone just missrible or what

futurist_wizard: You'd prefer to go by she/her?

zoermena: Yes but talking with the people here gives me more life

wellmeaningalien: whos that guy

777agical: OpenAI research scientist

hey1_1hey: Femboy with she/her prob. ( Not a trans women ).
Its complicated and I gotta reason with my self every day with it

zoermena: Yall are like my favorite people not even joking

wellmeaningalien: cool

wellmeaningalien: gibity 5

hikukomoru:

futurist_wizard: Ight das cool

hey1_1hey: What if I called you a bunch of racial slurs

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-parkour-mental-mental-gymnastics-gif-27542831

maintcrew: omgggg can i join

_3sphere: Moving average over the last year or some theoretical undisturbed default?

hey1_1hey: Futureist blonde is my scape goat

zoermena: This baseline is better than what my mom told me when I was growing up

hey1_1hey: He says I can be whatever so  will be


_cloudost: is it better than grok 3 or slightly better?

.histic: 4.5 is like 3T+

777agical: Did Zuck pull thru?! Is it over or are we back? Someone tell me how to feel rn

darkstar0818: I already responded to this.  You simply give the models your real world tasks via API, then assess the API costs vs the realized value.

3ds0662: hasnt released yet but hes calling it better than claude 3.7

wellmeaningalien: tell me what are your estimated parameters sizes

3ds0662: and 4.5

3ds0662: if he opensources something like that for free oh my god

darkstar0818: absolute values are irrelevant, relative values per $ are all that matters.

3ds0662: zuck is a hero

wellmeaningalien: ok so basically you dont know anything

wellmeaningalien: and you were talking about those parameter sizes and i ask you and you say idk

hey1_1hey: Hey everyone how is llama 4? Whats the vibe check on it?

_cloudost: Altman might open source GPT-5 tho u need 1008 nvidia gpus to run it

777agical: https://tenor.com/view/zuck-zuckerberg-freedom-peak-performance-gif-22220456

hey1_1hey: Zuck is a true red blooded American patriot

darkstar0818: What an astute observation, I stand corrected.

futurist_wizard: I guess zucky isn't so cucky after all

3ds0662: https://www.llama.com/llama4-reasoning-is-coming/

_cloudost: how much token context? 2 billion?

wellmeaningalien: that all you have to say

3ds0662: 10M

_cloudost: rip software engineers

3ds0662: jk dont jnow

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

hey1_1hey: You had me hyped then

3ds0662: but thats the other llama models context 10M

_cloudost: oh ok software engineers are safe for this week

literallyvarane: How official is this llama stuff?

hey1_1hey: On the brightside Artists were done for last week

3ds0662: i cant wait for swe’s to be made obsolete superhuman coder then its ggs for everyone else

st.sioux: the design is very official

hey1_1hey: This would be a ultra high tier troll

3ds0662: btw where is yann lecun whats his name at?

3ds0662: shouldnt he be ranting and dissapointed at another llm release?

hey1_1hey: Prob, he is prob still recovering from 4o native image gen

.wolfnacht: can't wait for behemoth open-weights

3ds0662: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/VR2qrwHeAh

.wolfnacht: 🥵

3ds0662: lmaoo


wellmeaningalien: nah meat on your bones is good

.histic: nice

wellmeaningalien: cool

wellmeaningalien: yeah tell him to lose weight

.histic: <@990426980279283735> whats ur height tho?

_3sphere: I'm ~180 72 kg, hm

maintcrew: ok a healthy person

maintcrew: we cooking

zoermena: He does go to the gym but idk

wellmeaningalien:

_3sphere: via divine benevolence

wellmeaningalien: how heavy is he

_3sphere: my lifestyle is *not* the reason 💀

wellmeaningalien: and height

wellmeaningalien: ur good

maintcrew: i think we should genocide the twinks

hikukomoru: All the short guys here might as well be women

wellmeaningalien: hey no good man twink revolution

zoermena: Probs 5.7 idk the weight but you can see it for sure

ailoveyoom: You're a gooner who lacks sleep, do you at least eat decent?

hikukomoru: Did you mean to ping me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

maintcrew: ur leader is sam altman and he deserves the guillotine

.histic: yes

.histic: woops

wellmeaningalien: sam's homonculus AI baby will protect us

hikukomoru: 163 cm/5'4 height and 58 kg weight

maintcrew: manlet

_3sphere: Mich still worried about my sleep 🥺

drewsni: Isn’t this the cuck

wellmeaningalien: ts hard asf feel free to repost

inferno0879: im 190cm 120kg 💀

maintcrew: can i screenshot this tuff as hell

hikukomoru: Damn fat bitch

wellmeaningalien: YUP

.histic: i'm taller than you yet weigh the same weight.
i don't think you're fat, i bet that weight goes elsewhere 💀

maintcrew: fatass

memlaswaif: <:rempeek:825752804802166874>

maintcrew: lose some weight u wont be able to outrun the ai killer bots

inferno0879: i do work out but yes i am a fatass

wellmeaningalien: bro whose this japanese prompter who keeps making balloon teachers with fat tits


fractalcomputer: I became properly acquainted with transhumanism through reading Harari's Homo Deus back in the day.

ailoveyoom: How did it work tho? P1 turn, AI turn, P2 turn?

fractalcomputer: Been over a decade since that was published.

anathemaofmankind: There were no turns.

Literally you could just type whenever and it would continue the RP

wellmeaningalien: yeah

wellmeaningalien: and often it was retarded and started yapping about somethng else entirely

wellmeaningalien: completely different characters completely different settings

zoermena: Dementia be like

anathemaofmankind: Yeah. It felt like an actual text predictor instead of what we have now.

But to be fair it was 2020 so it felt advanced as fuck back then

anathemaofmankind: I still remember having my mind blown that I could type whatever and it would respond

alejandrozarzuelo: we still have a long way to go to AGI

alejandrozarzuelo: AGI 2029 seems like a reasonable date, for as tongue in cheek as it may be

drewsni: my more conservative opinion is that. 2028/2029 for AGI, but the amount of areas where we have AGI level spiky intelligence will be so high by next year that nobody will care

zoermena: I’ll be 26 in 2029

hey1_1hey: I'll be 22

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/aging-getting-old-gif-9803364

hey1_1hey: I might as well start prepearing for retirement#

hey1_1hey: Don't skull react that message bruh 😭

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/lebron-pigeon-ai-brainrot-construction-gif-3567584481701324703

spicy.lemonade: yeah

spicy.lemonade: frontier math

spicy.lemonade: might even make a big discovery next year

fractalcomputer: In what area?

.wolfnacht: one day i'll be this

shirethedreamer: its out of jealousy bruh
shedding that much time off my clock would do wonders for my lev chances

memlaswaif: how old r u

spicy.lemonade: ML or math. those of which require the least physical things to test with

.wolfnacht:

spicy.lemonade: it really got the open eyes

shirethedreamer: why didnt it do the sussy vance in the back?
its so good with detail usually?

.wolfnacht: wait has no one tried to make a ghibli version of him ?

joaoluz19:

joaoluz19: Made for a friend

shirethedreamer: when you take first place in an international math competition and get summoned to a fantasy world believing you are magic badass champion

memlaswaif: what's edp doing there

wellmeaningalien:

futurist_wizard: Ai schizos start young these days

aero447: Bruh.

aero447: That implies you're a 2007 baby.

spicy.lemonade: same


wellmeaningalien: j'ai jamais entendu ça dans aucun de mes cours de français tu sais

wellmeaningalien: qu'ils s'appelaient comme ça

hikukomoru: Well as a Portuguese person I can verify that Russian kind of sounds like Portuguese lol

futurist_wizard:

fractalcomputer: Mes termes ont une tendance à être idiosyncratiques, tu devrais le savoir.

wellmeaningalien: bah je croyais qu'ils étaient idiosyncratiques à tes larousses non

fractalcomputer: Même si mon amour pour les mots amphigouriques reste en français.

wellmeaningalien: le français a des mots qui sont si droles

wellmeaningalien: l'anglais n'y mesure pas

fractalcomputer: Je te doute.

wellmeaningalien: bah

wellmeaningalien: presque

wellmeaningalien: <a:lolbye:1187461325534793851>

fractalcomputer: L'approximation est l'ennemi principal de l'espèce humaine.

wellmeaningalien: nan franchement je sens que parfois le français a, du genre, 5 mots qui décrivent casiment la même chose

wellmeaningalien: en effet le cas en anglais aussi, grâce au français

wellmeaningalien: bah l'approximation c'est ce qui fait tourner le monde

alejandrozarzuelo: fractal probablement ne partages pas cette idee

fractalcomputer: Tu les sais, ceux qui utilisent l'approximation comme leur langue seconde, ceux qui étudient les mathématiques appliquées.

wellmeaningalien: putain fractal c'est quoi que t'as contre ces mathematiciens appliqués

wellmeaningalien: 😮💨

wellmeaningalien: le plus je vie le plus j'ai realise ceci

fractalcomputer: Mais grâce au bon Seigneur, la France a toujours resté une fortification véritable contre les hordes des mathématiques appliquées.

alejandrozarzuelo: moi je suis d'accord, la perfection c'est l'enemi du bon

wellmeaningalien: bah la casi totalité des domaines d'étude scientifiques qui ne sont pas les mathematiques?

wellmeaningalien: bah il est grand temps pour un révolution

alejandrozarzuelo: villeneuve d'asqc be like:

._.

wellmeaningalien: <@688807313015963693> and me 😈

wellmeaningalien: les philosophes de la lumière

fractalcomputer: Ils ont peu d'intelligence et moins de la soif de la vérité.

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cellular-automaton-mythos-cardano-nft-cnft-gif-16900418931780605171

wellmeaningalien: eh bien

wellmeaningalien: 🫢

wellmeaningalien: d'accord

fractalcomputer: L'un de mes amis m'a donné un livre de Montesquieu pour mon anniversaire; je crois que cet acte a été un certain type de blague.

alejandrozarzuelo: villeneuve dasqc a la reputation d'etre un pole d'innovation scientifique et technologique, pas si connu pour les maths abstracts, sinon le contraire, la science et les mathematiques appliques vers le progres technologuique

fractalcomputer: Il m'a dit qu'il me ferait mieux lire les oeuvres de tels penseurs.

wellmeaningalien: ce mec c'était juste une note en bas de la page dans nos cours d'histoire

wellmeaningalien: bwah

wellmeaningalien: pour de vrai?


spicy.lemonade: I like the current system we have

gotkafa22: so how is the hype going here?

_3sphere: Fractal Sabine arc???

fractalcomputer: Lunatics the lot of them.

spicy.lemonade: we need people like that to constantly think about how to apply new discoveries

fractalcomputer: I'd call this my Wittgenstein era.

spicy.lemonade: no agi yet

okbut: 2nd scariest Austrian

gotkafa22: some detox is in order i assume

fractalcomputer: Besides, Hossenfelder is quite happy to use mathematics whenever it suits her ill deeds.

himekokatagiri: hello fractal

himekokatagiri: it's me himeko

alejandrozarzuelo: thats not true tho, it cant travel faster than light in local environments

there is no evidence in favor or against FTL with other methods

alejandrozarzuelo: not necessarily, new formultions say that negative energy is enough

alejandrozarzuelo: this was the original Alcubierre calculation, modern ones require small amounts of negative energy

spicy.lemonade: yeah we only need about 700 kg of negative energy

fractalcomputer: Negative energy. Unbelievable.

spicy.lemonade: prob less

fractalcomputer: Might as well start asking for imaginary energy now.

spicy.lemonade: it does exist though

spicy.lemonade: unlike exotic matter

alejandrozarzuelo: this isnt about the economy, this is about obtaining negative energy

fractalcomputer: I wouldn't be so sure about that.

gotkafa22: i was going to post this, but what i am reading now is even levels beyond a grounded discussion

himekokatagiri: is June gonna be our month

fractalcomputer: Since we're apparently just so fine and dandy with imposing algebraic notions on physical ideas, yes.

spicy.lemonade: we arent talking about AI

alejandrozarzuelo: actually no, massless particles have a much easier time (in theory) doing warp bubbles than things with mass

alejandrozarzuelo: true, just because we dont have any evidence against it we dont have any evidence in favour either

spicy.lemonade: august

alejandrozarzuelo: rare time i agree with you

fractalcomputer: > "Actually, no"

> no link with "empirical reality"

fractalcomputer: Hm. Curious.

alejandrozarzuelo: ehhhhhhhhh

fractalcomputer: I don't think you understood what I said. I was saying that physics itself is an entirely meaningless affair and an exercise in profound futility.

alejandrozarzuelo: ah i thought you meant on these cases where we dont have empirical evidence

fractalcomputer: God, what is up with my orthography today.

alejandrozarzuelo: not by default

fractalcomputer: What is evidence, Alejandro?

alejandrozarzuelo: negative energy could be obtained... but we dont know if that kind of negative energy is bonafide negative energy for spacetime curvature


hganhhh: yeah thats me dw

hey1_1hey: Medicinal chemistry is goated 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣

hganhhh: rate the flag

hey1_1hey: ASS

hganhhh: its a country in africa

trent_k: 😏

hey1_1hey: Ass flag still

hey1_1hey: Doesn't change my opinion bruh

hganhhh: post your country's flag rn

hey1_1hey: Mines cool asf

trent_k: 🇺🇸 😎

hey1_1hey:

hganhhh: the us flag doesnt have that many stars

hey1_1hey: Got a big ass dragon on mine

hikukomoru: This guy is Portuguese 🥀

hganhhh: where is wales on a map

hikukomoru: I'm so ashamed of my country

hganhhh: can you point to it

trent_k: we need to add more stars to it, starting with greenland

hey1_1hey: You wouldnt be able to find it if you tried

.histic: i knew it

hganhhh: ok

hey1_1hey: So now what. Big tonys become broing again

trent_k: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: Hes not being racist or anything

hikukomoru: Portuguese soyjak

.histic: <@439829942310666250>
4o bugged out when drawing her in a bikini. i've been trying for like 10-mins and it either freezes or just stops due to violations. but i got this instead

st.sioux: i love greenland 💚💚💚 i have always been grelnland fan #1 💚

hey1_1hey: Thats just a portugeuse person

hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOO

trent_k: 👀

hikukomoru: WOAH MAMA

hey1_1hey: Id fuck me bro

.histic: oh, it worked.

hey1_1hey: Id still fuck me

st.sioux: goon shit

trent_k: Whoa mama! Hummina hummina hummina bazooooooooing! eyes pop out AROOOOOOOOGA! jaw drops tongue rolls out WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF tongue bursts out of the mouth uncontrollably leaking face and everything in reach WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwurblwurlbrwubrlwburlwbruwrlblwublr tiny cupid shoots an arrow through heart Ahhhhhhhhhhh me lady... heart in the shape of a heart starts beating so hard you can see it through shirt ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum*

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-when-do-whendo-gif-21328168

hey1_1hey: Return to monkey


.wolfnacht: maybe straight up guro

hey1_1hey: I mean that tracks for people I know

.wolfnacht: same, i found some people on internet having these kinks

.wolfnacht: and talked with them

.wolfnacht: they sound sane

hey1_1hey: This is irl for me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

.wolfnacht: 😩  luckyyy

hey1_1hey: I wonder what the corolation is between taboo rating and female vs male

hey1_1hey: The people I know will just list their kinks if you ask them

hey1_1hey: Its just something we talk about openly

_3sphere: Unhinged fetishes don't seem to affect the rest of someone's mind much, oddly enough

_3sphere: you wouldn't know

hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: Indeed, theres a person with necro I know vaugly and they are perfectly normal

maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216>

hey1_1hey: Alright alright

maintcrew: MUSHROOM

hey1_1hey: Yes hello

maintcrew: I dont want anymore sexuality talk in my general singularity

maintcrew: stop being horny

maintcrew: NOW

hey1_1hey: Sorry, sir 🙏 😇 ✝

hey1_1hey: Anyway its not me being horny

hey1_1hey: I have an interest in learning about kinks and fetishes thank you very much

maintcrew: Talk to the hand lil bro but do it in off topic

maintcrew: NOW

zonchao: my goat https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906316724544094461?

hey1_1hey: I'll see you there, seargent

hey1_1hey: This guy and fractal would get along

maintcrew: i follow a few parody accounts of this guy so im never sure if its actually him or some parody dude

hikukomoru:

maintcrew: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1906004120768774184

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zonchao: <@749514473303179358> true?

sarik0497: Disgusting. Look at that fetish; "Cuddling". Yuck.

wellmeaningalien: JIANKUI HE SLAYYYY

wellmeaningalien: JIANKUI HE FUCKING SLAY

inferno0879: https://youtube.com/shorts/1Ww5v_FbnqQ

zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/giffmana/status/1906273974457122970? they fighting again <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

inferno0879: Schizo bb er?


technocake.: jan le cooked

zonchao: <@88481490228228096> <:cringe:1136264606256472104>

drewsni: i dont care because im using agi rn

technocake.: you also have the power to declare bankrupcy, that doesn't make it true

drewsni: it also fuckin cooked you

trent_k:

zonchao: it was funny

zonchao: what was the prompt

drewsni:

zonchao: <:shockedd:1080470202564739092>

drewsni: bro it knows you better than you know yourself

zonchao: <:bruhsmilin:853257512971272232>

memlaswaif: 4/23/4801

zonchao: server is obsessed with me like I am with Elon <:CrySparkle:1315743925947859066>

zonchao: <:ASZODhomiekiss:1127263657059950713>

drewsni: almost like ur the lolcow of this server

zonchao: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>

trent_k:

technocake.: schizos are cooked

joaoluz19: Wait why the fuck did gpt put blood in her mouth?

technocake.: the hotness of the lady is proportional to her scaryness

clevermoniker: sama telling you to only generate hot guys and not hot woman <:idk:1136264106937171999>

joaoluz19: The bug is still there fuck these twinks man

joaoluz19: Can't generate sensual woman

clevermoniker: this is why we will always need open source <:hehe:1136619235662118983>

joaoluz19: We need China

clevermoniker:

wolf3404: to give you nightmares of course

joaoluz19: The image gen maintains consistency between characters and clothing lol

clevermoniker: Imagine a near sota DeepSeek image model.... probably not happening anytime soon sadly if ever

777agical:

joaoluz19: 4o? Lol

777agical: yea

jonvi_1:

jonvi_1: I’ve not been able to get it to edit images though :/

futurist_wizard: Is the new o4 image gen out?

joaoluz19: It's weird that I ask GPT to make women more beautiful and it actually does it

joaoluz19: Yep

zonchao: true

zoermena: 4o is insanely good


retrerox: it was like 85 euro so i doubt

zonchao: yep, you should listen to his podcasts, he talks about them in detail

retrerox: But i needed  a 2nd screen alot

retrerox: Specially for my work

retrerox: I gotta bechecking terminal logs

retrerox: while keep up a chat with  the tech

wellmeaningalien: 720p

wellmeaningalien: thats crazy

retrerox: So a 2nd screen even i not good one its going to help me up

st.sioux: cool

st.sioux: yea it helps a lot

retrerox: Where i can see the if its 1440 or shit?

zonchao: <@636544123096137738> vertical?

retrerox: nah horizontal

zonchao: windows?

retrerox: ye ihave windows

zonchao: display settings

retrerox: then where?

st.sioux: right click on ur desktop and go to scale & layout

retrerox: i havae my windows in spanish so i'm not sure

st.sioux:

zonchao: yea

retrerox:

zonchao: <:Oof:1005890733078741024>

retrerox: atleast is not 720...

zonchao: do they even make these anymore

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: 144hz <:smile:1201354224408203325>

wellmeaningalien: 😃

wellmeaningalien: thats like 90% of lower end phones and laptops

wellmeaningalien: u wouldnt believe what they're putting in ""modern"" tech

wellmeaningalien: 4GB RAM LAPTOPS

st.sioux: macbooks start at 8gb unified memory

st.sioux: and theyrenot cheap

zonchao: 💀 you know its time to upgrade when even apple has finally switched from 8gb base

retrerox: macs <:cringe:1136264606256472104>

wellmeaningalien: 8GB is crazy for such expensive laptops

zonchao: they do 16 now

wellmeaningalien: broooooooooooooo


wellmeaningalien: WTF GOING ON

wellmeaningalien: Its joever for mathematicians. Fractals getting replacd too

joaoluz19: Fractal being replaced by LLM's

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

st.sioux: pour one out for homie fractal

fractalcomputer: Eh. Let's suppose these things are actually making meaningful progress towards advancing mathematical research - of which we have yet seen almost no indication - then it is fairly evident that economic interests will almost certainly constrain the kind of mathematics automated research will focus on, perhaps even out of a pure human factor; optimising solutions in applied mathematics or whatever it is that those accursed fiends (applied mathematicians) do with their time happens to be far more useful and interesting for financial reasons than studying something like developing techniques in reconstructing arithmetic varieties from their étale fundamental groups or answering questions in more general number theory.

spicy.lemonade: 412% jump

spicy.lemonade: In 3 days

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: Yeah it’s over

fractalcomputer: And letting researcher automata wander about the axiomatic landscape freely is not exactly a fiscally responsible strategy; seeing the infinitude of mathematics.

fractalcomputer: One has a plethora of IMO golden medalists that happen to amount to nothing in their mathematical careers.

spicy.lemonade: I think bc alot of imo gold medalists get dragged into quant

fractalcomputer: Of course there are the occasional outliers - like Lurie or Scholze - but they're not good at research simply because they're highly adept proble solvers as well.

fractalcomputer: The folly of applied mathematics strikes again.

spicy.lemonade: cause they score high on the IMO and janestreet recruits them

spicy.lemonade: with a 1 million dollar salary

spicy.lemonade: they cant resist

spicy.lemonade: also a bit of burnout

fractalcomputer: Lurie and Scholze are good because over the course of their lives they've developed a unique, personal mathematic heuristic that lets them find equally unique and creative perspectives on familiar structures or clunky formalism.

spicy.lemonade: Grigori Perelman won imo didnt he

spicy.lemonade: and he solved milenium problem

spicy.lemonade: the only one

fractalcomputer: Perelman insisted that the prize was not due only to him.

fractalcomputer:

spicy.lemonade: yeh lol

fractalcomputer: Mirzakhani was also a gold medalist, iirc.

spicy.lemonade: terrence tao

spicy.lemonade: peter schloze

fractalcomputer: Tao's a bit of a letdown, I feel.

fractalcomputer: Scholze, see above. I really like his work.

fractalcomputer: I mean, he is certainly one of the brightest mathematicians in terms of sheer processing power of our age, so to say, but he hasn't revolutionised, well, really anything.

fractalcomputer: He's a bit like Erdös.

fractalcomputer: Or it could just be my bias, since I really only tend to care for the algebraic side of things - which is an issue I am trying to rectify.

spicy.lemonade: feynman achieved highest score on putnam

spicy.lemonade: also comparable to IMO

spicy.lemonade: I think the IMO winers that do go into research

spicy.lemonade: become very good researchers

spicy.lemonade: but not all imo winers go into research

fractalcomputer: Counter-examples; Grothendieck's lineage (maybe with the exception of Scholze) doesn't have that many IMO winners.


wellmeaningalien: do u guys think national security will ever get involved with this

st.sioux: in what

wellmeaningalien: like people physically protesting in front of the offices of ai companies

wellmeaningalien:

st.sioux: i don't think so unless they're trespassing or destroying stuff

st.sioux: like with burning teslas

wellmeaningalien: like with burning teslas

st.sioux: jinx

wellmeaningalien: there are threats of violence now but i definitely imagine it'd take someone getting violent for something to be done about it

wellmeaningalien: i think thats probably gonna start after mass unemployment tho

realelonmuskx: aint no gonna lie ai art > human art and also faster and cheaper bru

_3sphere: Would take a pretty coordinated attack

_3sphere: Data centers are really secure

wellmeaningalien: imo the best human artists still > ai art but some artists are mid asf

wellmeaningalien: stop ai and pause ai are organisations

wellmeaningalien: and pretty much every big country wide union out there in the united states has already protested AI

_3sphere: I meant the violence

wellmeaningalien: stop ai and pause ai are organisations

wellmeaningalien: and pretty much every big country wide union out there in the united states has already protested AI

realelonmuskx: yeah but compare time and money ai art is simply better and you can generate infinite variations in seconds

wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly theres no way in hell im ever getting this good and some of the stuff it can make is real cool

wellmeaningalien: like this invincible art

wellmeaningalien: like this is one of the first times ive seen ai art and thought damn that looks cool

realelonmuskx: tell an artist "add a planet in flames", thats $500 and two weeks, sora does it in 25 seconds

wellmeaningalien: pay 1000$ for my shitty unshaded art and bust only

wellmeaningalien: some of these rates like bro aint nobody affording that shit dude

wellmeaningalien: but the power of art isnt gatekept to the hand wizards no more

maintcrew: i tried watching the invincible anime and it was cringe woke writing with bad vibes so i tried the comic and it slaps so hard

st.sioux: ok

wellmeaningalien: anime lol

realelonmuskx: image agi

maintcrew: cartoon w/e

wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly the writing in the show does feel much more like 21st century "woke" writing if u put it that way

maintcrew: it feels very... millenial?

wellmeaningalien: yeah lol

st.sioux: it's like when music aside from folk was reserved for the elite only, since there were no record players or other types of technology

wellmeaningalien: errrm...? awkward? im literally a superhero now? and in a love triangle..? talk about 😅

maintcrew: also i found it so boring bc they started the show by showing eves backstory and entire life when shes not even the main character???

_3sphere: Humans making art *is* extremely slow, guess that's where the cost comes from

_3sphere: Human time is expensive


himekokatagiri: I think people deserve more time

himekokatagiri: not even about lifespan y'know like going on without disease

himekokatagiri: without getting old

wellmeaningalien: o3 and o4-mini

himekokatagiri: I think people deserve better

fractalcomputer: My dear Spaniard, I am making a personal statement, not a societal one. I probably would find it very meaningless.

metaldragon01: Those are models not features

wellmeaningalien: wtf are w talking about

wellmeaningalien: literally this appeared like today

alejandrozarzuelo: i know

metaldragon01: I know they are coming

himekokatagiri: c'mon fractal

himekokatagiri: what are you gonna do

himekokatagiri: when the singularity arrives

himekokatagiri: you clearly are into it

metaldragon01: Just saying I don't think it's what he means unless the new models also allows for new features

fractalcomputer: The banality of your question.

himekokatagiri: Do you feel you have any perspective in the current world

himekokatagiri: We have nothing

himekokatagiri: Our generation's holding the bag for the past mistakes since jeez the beginning of time

fractalcomputer: Then why comment?

himekokatagiri: we inherited that shit but we got an out with the singularity

himekokatagiri: there's nothing left

himekokatagiri: it's over

himekokatagiri: we came in at the end

futurist_wizard: Very optimistic

joaoluz19: God damn it just set a date you two

himekokatagiri: so we get AGI

himekokatagiri: then we get ASI

himekokatagiri: ASI takes over the shit governments who want to make a dime

himekokatagiri: then honestly I hope FDVR gets made fast because I'm going in and I ain't coming back

zoermena: Real

himekokatagiri: Optimal way

fractalcomputer: Many people would classify this as religious thinking.

himekokatagiri: the path of least resistance

futurist_wizard: Your optimal outcome is the hive mind basically

_3sphere: What is your plan to deal with the hedonic treadmill

himekokatagiri: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

futurist_wizard: This whole thing is religious in nature

zoermena: I know FDVR seems like an escape but I’ve been getting a taste of corporate life this last few months and this is ass I want out!