zoermena: I´ll make images for yall I have plus, just tag me. Disclaimer the servers are in a coma so I might take a while.

_wwwwww: what if life on mars was possible?

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/colors-wit-studio-pairo-colors-gif-comp-sci-transition-boy-to-girl-anime-gif-1324653471667193829

spicy.lemonade: Solve arc agi question

hey1_1hey: Just pretend to be a women on the internet

hey1_1hey: That couldnt go wrong

spicy.lemonade: Give it a relatively easy one

_wwwwww: https://tenor.com/view/%E6%B3%A3%E3%81%8F-%E3%81%8B%E3%82%8F%E3%81%84%E3%81%84-%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%AE%E5%AD%90-%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88-%E5%98%98-gif-13901060367924981492

trent_k:

spicy.lemonade: This is likely 4o so it won’t do well

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/egirl-valoran-egirl-fps-egirl-fps-anime-egirl-valorant-anime-egirl-gif-5607647411938375019

zoermena: Why are yall sending femboys.

hikukomoru: Make anime mushroom girl

hey1_1hey: They are really hot

hey1_1hey: The real question is why you aren't

trent_k: lacking the self awareness to install grindr

hey1_1hey: I beg

zoermena: I´m going to get harder than a PhD Physics problem.

hikukomoru: Don't worry you will be able to change genders instantly in the future

hey1_1hey: You haven't seen anything yet, wait until you hear about quantam physics in material science

hey1_1hey: I better be

zoermena: Disclaimer I study accounting and finance.

hey1_1hey: Not for personal reasons of course, just for... funsies

trey6033: Ayo

hey1_1hey: Ah so you are doing something fake

hey1_1hey: Same dw

hey1_1hey: I study business

tors.exe: <@465177408073498634> please make tomboy !

_wwwwww: i wish to be a hermaphrodite with dog dick

zoermena: Ok, It'll arrive in 5 to 10 business days.

hey1_1hey: Femboy*

hey1_1hey: You dont really want to see a tomboy trust me

zoermena: I meant, Femboys make me harder than physics.

plouwg: Still a bit hiccups it seems, but overall such a strong improvement from dalle.
Prompt for both: Draw a wizard holding a fireball in one hand and writing a long story on a blackboard about plagueis the wise with chalk.

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/%E1%97%9C%CB%AC%E1%97%9C-my-honest-reaction-meme-my-honest-reaction-azumanga-daioh-anime-gif-13098767676707916198

joaoluz19: Image gen has limits? How much?

technocake.: this is currently my job

zoermena: Theres no limits to videos or images the servers are just in a coma.

hey1_1hey: Oh wow

hey1_1hey: Get well soon man


maintcrew: no retardo the second google result

hey1_1hey: So for anyone wondering, yes I am prob trans. No you do not have to treat me diffrently. Just go about your day as per usual

_wwwwww: literally me

maintcrew: the martingales representation theorem not a martingale

.histic: brazilian?
no way

.histic: come to brazil!

wellmeaningalien: "generate a picture of an updated imagined version of the bridge of the uss-enterprise-d (picard's galaxy class) but with animals in the starfleet uniforms. do it like it might look like if the show was made today"

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, just because you dont know the name of the bloke who wrote it doesnt mean you dont know ehat they are talking about

hikukomoru: European Portuguese <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

zoermena: Bless you

wellmeaningalien: why is invincible wearing a cape? is he becoming omni man

wellmeaningalien: np

.histic: ooh..
that's even better

technocake.: barry loves you

futurist_wizard: A lot of Brazilians are mixed

alejandrozarzuelo: ah ok

futurist_wizard: Most i think

hey1_1hey: Because of gender, otherwise its just dissociation

hikukomoru: Who the fuck is barry
Why does he love me

wellmeaningalien: <@688807313015963693> u finally woke up from ur coma

alejandrozarzuelo: about half and half white

.histic: these type of programming infographics will be big in the future

oooooooooog: no i prefer only caffine, 800mg - 1200 mg

_wwwwww: 100% true european-polish patriot hacker geek programmer sigma

futurist_wizard: Yes

hey1_1hey: Thanks Komoru :())

wellmeaningalien: DAAAMMMNNN

technocake.:

maintcrew: lol i dont trust u your heart wouldve given out

hey1_1hey: Thats what Im saying

hikukomoru: I'm sorry your transness is making me confused too

hey1_1hey: Wait until it can make cheat sheets

hey1_1hey: Id bust

alejandrozarzuelo: i was busy today

.histic: <@458069236825194506> bro i just caught Miku with 4o 😱

maintcrew: isnt this historically false

like the uk had massive beef with portugal

hey1_1hey: Everyone is a little confused, I am just a little more confused than most people

wellmeaningalien:

oooooooooog: no but my stomach does feel like pure acid for awhile, very annoying

hey1_1hey: Can you make a mushroom one 🙏


ldj: The lyrics of the song heat waves goes like this:
"All I think about is you, late night in the **middle of Jun**e"

ldj: https://youtu.be/mRD0-GxqHVo?si=CUh1vGu_R7B27YdW

anathemaofmankind: Or being in a good country but killing yourself because of mental health issues

joaoluz19: Roon entered sam's account

.histic: AI is surprisingly good for mental health if you give it a chance.

brain4brain: Steve Wozniak’s cup of coffee benchmark was achieved last week, but not in a general system, but wow

ldj: link?

brain4brain: It was revealed to me in a dream

brain4brain: (I actually misremembered, it was cleaning in an unseen environment not making a coffee, sorry about that)

https://x.com/physical_int/status/1914724966362440148?t=mfOZX8QjsUfNa0u_1DgJrQ&s=19

campionunbound: https://x.com/deitaone/status/1915947090649239587?s=46&t=AfygPPVmbT-hFJR03pEcVg

clevermoniker: yeah, making a coffee is a harder than this, but at least its getting there

st.sioux: ai winter

xskydragon0: Holy Cow

spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/smooth-move-cow-gif-16191603673901327691

brain4brain: > “In 2029, AI will not be able to watch a movie and tell you accurately what is going on ….”
Google showed a demo a while back with Gemini-1.5-Pro: https://youtu.be/wa0MT8OwHuk?si=OdM0vfFE7apassyZ

> “In 2029, AI will not be able to read a novel and reliably answer questions about plot, character, conflicts, motivations, etc. Key will be going beyond the literal text…”
Gemini-2.5-Pro and o3 saturated all token level of fiction.livebench, up to 100% on 120k token level

> “In 2029, AI will not be able to work as a competent cook in an arbitrary kitchen (extending Steve Wozniak’s cup of coffee benchmark)”
Gemini-2.5-pro when given a robotic body to pilot can perform multiple task, but we are not at a level of intelligence or speed that it can do this yet

> “In 2029, AI will not be able to reliably construct bug-free code of more than 10,000 lines from natural language specification or by interactions with a non-expert user.”
Gemini-2.5-pro can and have done this

> “In 2029, AI will not be able to take arbitrary proofs from the mathematical literature written in natural language and convert them into a symbolic form suitable for symbolic verification.”
Gemini-2.5-pro failed at this as demonstrated by <@471334973379706900>

Gary Marcus getting his own AGI definition beat before anyone else

xskydragon0: Do you have the full article?

brain4brain: https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/dear-elon-musk-here-are-five-things

xskydragon0: Thanks

.histic: elon changed his year?

.histic: just copying kurzweil now lol

zoermena: Elon is correct that 2029 will be a pivotal year just as every year after 2027 until the universe dies or hopefully we discover other realities so forever

clevermoniker: haha, nice

zoermena: Aero should read this

brain4brain: He is an 2025er

brain4brain: <@1152183706849644615> Can’t get to your main Gary Marcus account on twitter, so here’s the discord version

Get reading, Gary

drewsni: So they distilled o3 into 4o?

drewsni: tables for dayz

.histic: this is a weird glitch with o3

.histic: still going lol

a1c4p0ne: Try to get it to an hour or more

ebbenflos_25799: Hello, this thread is getting out of hand, people are using it to talk about conspiracies and spreading weird political propaganda, its honestly just becoming a nuisance https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/6CF0tUVGEr

himekokatagiri: 🚬

himekokatagiri: can't it be done via telework

himekokatagiri: idk how the Americans do it

ebbenflos_25799:

ebbenflos_25799: the thread is getting pretty bad, i think it should be locked

himekokatagiri: they're all bots pay no heed

himekokatagiri: I think we should archive this shit man

himekokatagiri: future historians

himekokatagiri: all that


spicy.lemonade: But just copy down on paper

st.sioux: they REQUIRE you to write notes?

st.sioux: damn

st.sioux: in my university they never even asked me to take notes

clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1354493018979172692.webp?size=96

.histic:

clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>

brain4brain: It's back: https://x.com/TheXeophon/status/1907880330985390215?t=ufndq4x8a_tmRShSkQUvFA&s=19

wellmeaningalien: interesting, i saw some other projection that by the end of the decade AI would reach 5 hours tasks lmao

wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

wellmeaningalien: quasar

wellmeaningalien: wasnt that like a joke on this server

wellmeaningalien: i guess quasar asi was real after all

brain4brain: Yes, but you think it was only just a joke?

brain4brain: This is the singularity server many leaks were slipped up and leaked onto this server

.histic:

drewsni: Name one leak

.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1907932605888213491
🥱 give us full o3 & o3-mini pro, Sam.

realelonmuskx: should i have 8 more kids

777agical: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907941993789141475

joaoluz19: Is there a world that is better than deepseek?

777agical: omni model at least

spicy.lemonade: No

spicy.lemonade: Just that if we have notes

spicy.lemonade: Should be written

metaldragon01: Absolutely

777agical: deepseek r2 is late april early may

clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

steven_the_frog: I mean if a frontier lab releases a new AI model it better be competitive - otherwise it's just embarrassing and a big waste of time.

clevermoniker: DeepSeek 'expert' believes it could be R1.5

joaoluz19: Make sense, dont know too if they have the courage to release it without being competitive

.histic: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907941993789141475
https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907943886821142803

_cloudost: I'm in a server with lots of AI artists and they're hostile toward OpenAI IMG generations

_cloudost: They all love open source

_cloudost: Better be a good model so OpenAI releases something new soon too

brain4brain: Mystery model and quasar <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>

drewsni: Both of those were posted to two other discords before here

brain4brain: It was posted here first (Source: I'm the original person to spread it)

joaoluz19: What are some good articles about AGI/ASI?

drewsni: No you’re not dude you just dickride all the annoying leakers on twitter


spicy.lemonade: we just got AI capale of doing math at a competent level

spicy.lemonade: literaly like last november

trent_k: No

fractalcomputer: Just as it surpasses your own expectations?

spicy.lemonade: yes. maybe youre just not looking

spicy.lemonade: AI has made huge impacts already

spicy.lemonade: visibly

spicy.lemonade: in VC, in interbet traffic, in papers published

spicy.lemonade: in gpu development

fractalcomputer: I *am*. I have been reviewing how professional mathematicians have reacted to this. Some are obviously more positive and some are less so in their predictions for the future—but it is very evident that no significant leaps have yet been made.

spicy.lemonade: the world is on a completley different trajectory

rayanquitplayin: I did not know AI was good at math

spicy.lemonade: because of chatpt

spicy.lemonade: bro is late

zoermena: It’s gotten better quite quickly I think

zoermena: Roko

rayanquitplayin: I studied finance in college so I’m more knowledgeable about that than comp sci

rayanquitplayin: I didn’t know that

rayanquitplayin: ChatGPT is amazing, I love it so much

trent_k: Watch out, they're gonna ban your account for child endangerment if one of the OpenAI staff thinks your dick is suspiciously small

trent_k: They're gonna think it's a child penis

rayanquitplayin: 🧠 🧠

fractalcomputer: The one thing I absolutely hate about the recent trends in artificial intelligence is the generic responses of all these models; even within maths, the answer is always the desired one, with no onboard baggage or new, unique insights. Sure, doing IMO problems is interesting—but why should any of that matter if no new knowledge comes out?

trent_k: Anything under 9 inches

st.sioux: stop talking about penises

trent_k: Does anyone at a pre-IMO level have anything meaningful to contribute to the field though? I don't see any issue with just using benchmarks to benchmark

rayanquitplayin: Yeah ChatGPT responds like a bot

rayanquitplayin: But I lowkey like the responses, it keeps everything high-level

rayanquitplayin: You can get high-level AI intel on anything

fractalcomputer: IMO problems are all rather narrow in a reasoning sense. They're more like extremely elaborate puzzles with a few common strategies to solve them—only understanding the nature of the problem indicates any sort of talent in mathematical research.

st.sioux: i believe the imo benchmarks are comparable to competitive programming, they're good at proving that the model is good at solving stuff that requires algorithmic thinking but not much beyond that

st.sioux: in a sense competitive programming is just solving puzzles

fractalcomputer: Mathematics does not rest on "world-knowledge."

rayanquitplayin: I think AI has to be met with other industries like software & robotics for example to find new knowledge

rayanquitplayin: There are so many opportunities in AI

destrucules: Please don't send people unwanted dick pics. Should be common sense. Idk why I gotta spell that out

rayanquitplayin: Which adjacent industries do you guys think will get an AI boost?

st.sioux: What do you mean adjacent?

darkstar0818: interesting is not the word I would use.

fractalcomputer: And in what sense do you think that is applicable to mathematical research?


spicy.lemonade: instead of saying "he saiys"

spicy.lemonade: say the mechanic

numbah_1_nig: ok ok that makes sense

numbah_1_nig: it's pretty cool though - the art really matches what i had in mind

spicy.lemonade: you could even draw a lil sketch on paper

numbah_1_nig: exceeded my expectations there

spicy.lemonade: and give it a ref

numbah_1_nig: DAMN

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: look

numbah_1_nig: that's sick ngl

bob082957: He deleted this twitt

spicy.lemonade: ai?

spicy.lemonade: lol

numbah_1_nig: yo i tried this with DALL-E and it was so trash 💀

spicy.lemonade: i wish image gen was faster

numbah_1_nig:

numbah_1_nig: so new image gen model is 100% a step in the right direction

spicy.lemonade:

ailoveyoom: I wonder when 4o can do pixel perfect 'editing' of images

spicy.lemonade: gemini can do that

ailoveyoom: Yeah, Gemmy got pretty close

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: it even aded the peaking eyes in the back

spicy.lemonade:

numbah_1_nig: gemini's attempt 💀💀

spicy.lemonade: bruh

numbah_1_nig: the boy looks like a mini drug dealer, and in the last panel the mechanic's arms pierce through another mechanic....?

numbah_1_nig: also idk what's up with the popeye arms lmao

numbah_1_nig: OpenAI well ahead of the pack

numbah_1_nig: the funniest part is the name gemini gave to the conversation

numbah_1_nig: sounds like a bad porno

numbah_1_nig: 😭 🤣

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: its just a prank bro

wellmeaningalien: someone should try the gemini thing

wellmeaningalien: where you ask it to generate a sketch and then add detail and then clean up and ink and color and shade

.wolfnacht:

drewsni: 4o is agi btw

wellmeaningalien: gemini is a little bit retarded and it turns image into nightmare satan smegma slop if u ask it to generate too much


brain4brain: Thumbnails will now in mostly MrBeast style

futurist_wizard: Not necessarily true, mrbeast's thumbnails work for him, doesn't cross over to every genre

hikukomoru: They're annoying little cunts

brain4brain:

wellmeaningalien: PRAISE

wellmeaningalien: 🙏

futurist_wizard: Ive watched a few ratlobber videos

brain4brain: They’ll be in hell for as long as their own self want, they will learn to repent stop shitting on AI and finally discover peace and get redemption or they’ll stay as miserable as they are

brain4brain: I’ve never even heard of him before this screenshot

_3sphere: I guess manual art will become just a thing to do for fun and share with friends (who you have no reason to mess with by claiming to have made AI outputs)?

brain4brain: We’ve seen this happen before: Chess

brain4brain: We already know the future outcome

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Would never have guessed

realelonmuskx: antis be like: BUT THIS ONE PIXEL IS WRONG, 600% zoom

alejandrozarzuelo: no we havent

_3sphere: Chess is a competitive game

_3sphere: There is kind of an "art" to it but that's true of all worthwhile games

brain4brain: Human beats computer at Chess and Go
Computers starts beating master at Chess
They stop competing with bot and with other human
Most of the move are now memorized from games with the engine

alejandrozarzuelo: Chess was never an economically important activity, it was just spectacle

and while some art is spectacle, thats a minority of the money

the vast VAST majority of the money is in Ad and marketing and design

brain4brain: Life is a competitive game

alejandrozarzuelo: which can be automated

futurist_wizard: People will maybe revert back to painting

futurist_wizard: Irl

alejandrozarzuelo: again, this is an apt comparison only for a minority of art

brain4brain: For ad and marketing, we’ve never seen this play out before

alejandrozarzuelo: the vast majority of art is produced for direct economic purposes

brain4brain: But I believe it will all be automated

realelonmuskx: it is. for mates, resources, land. anyone on the street by default is an opp

brain4brain: And UBI will shift all art from economic to passion

_3sphere: Someone put a brush on a CNC just to one up that

alejandrozarzuelo: thats my point

futurist_wizard: Its not the important part of it

alejandrozarzuelo: btw

_3sphere: Digital art with no AI involved is just as "real" as physical imo, but I do think physical will have a new status as doubly far away from AI

futurist_wizard: Its not about it being real

_3sphere: We will be the few people remaining who can create anime girls using nothing but a piece of coal 🔥

brain4brain: The Industrial Revolution shift physical labor to intellectual labor, with creative being the final frontier and it’s already being prevented in advance, we will go from “mandatory survival labor” to “passion labor”

futurist_wizard: Its that a human made it, we don't care about cars going faster than humans

spicy.lemonade: Coming up with a profile picture feels
Like fishing from the Atlantic ocean now


destrucules: The problem is, when you give to charity, your money doesn't go to a good cause

destrucules: It goes to the worst people on the planet

spacetimetsunami: That is super hard for you Mr is reality real

destrucules: People who willingly take money from starving children

hikukomoru: This is me btw

oooooooooog: we already agree it is real, daniel. wake up. wake up. wake up. WAKE UP. WAKE UP. WAKE UP.

destrucules: Charities aren't flat cooperative groups. They're hierarchical organizations whose executives make millions of dollars a year

zoermena: With a billion you could set up your own charity

zonchao: true

anathemaofmankind:

spacetimetsunami: lol I like u

anathemaofmankind: The vast majority are willing to kill people

memlaswaif: destrucules u can save a lot of children with 1 billion

hikukomoru: >reddit

zonchao: cap

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994

ailoveyoom: Wholesome take 🥺

anathemaofmankind: Redditors are evil confirmed

oooooooooog: ||that's redditors, which is a biased demographic||

hikukomoru: Always been

destrucules: Unlikely. One billion in liquid assets is basically fictional. Actual billionaires can't spend their money on whatever they want, as spending even a little bit of money causes the rest of their money to disappear

zonchao: bro thinks redditors are normies 💀

anathemaofmankind: No they are left wing

oooooooooog: redditors are 50% normies at least

anathemaofmankind: 😎

destrucules: Unless I'm personally doing all of the component tasks within the charity, I have little confidence this would work better than donating to an existing charity

ailoveyoom: I wonder what the demographics are like in all those random porn subs with horny comments

hikukomoru: Stop tempting his pure soul

hikukomoru: I won't forgive you

destrucules: Male aged 18-35 single with low income

zonchao: you can airlift 100 children from Africa and let them live here

ailoveyoom: I like how you specified low income lmao

destrucules: With no legal status? They'd end up in one of Trump's concentration camps

hikukomoru: Airlift them straight to Guantanamo

zonchao: we buy them GOLDEN CARDS

anathemaofmankind: 1.7k are willing to kill 100k people for a billion dollars <@378996537704841216>

From a sample size of 8k.

And 60% are willing to kill people in general

destrucules: Or are you saying I should be a parent to 100 adopted children?

destrucules: I doubt I'd be a good parent to one child. Hell, I'm a bad parent to myself

zoermena: Real

oooooooooog: you birthed urself???


fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-things-are-in-motion-gif-20102320

memlaswaif: I don't think jgudy is actually somalian

hikukomoru: Tbh to be into the singularity as a concept you probably have to be a bit nuts

retrerox: cant wait AI BEV

futurist_wizard: Singularity users have issues with life

sweetievee__33649: jgudy probably doesnt even exist

retrerox: Balding Escape Velocity

sweetievee__33649: he seems made up

sweetievee__33649: a check that box then

metaldragon01: I doubt it even reaches 65 tbh. I'll be impressed at 60

hikukomoru: If only you were here when he was around

futurist_wizard: I think I'd rather die than go bald

memlaswaif: <@636544123096137738> what r ure thoughts on porteguese people

futurist_wizard: But thats me personally

sweetievee__33649: you talk about him like he was a parental figure 😭

hikukomoru: jgudy was also the #1 Elon hater

spicy.lemonade: he said itl be realy competative

hikukomoru: I loved that guy 🥺
I miss jgudy so much

spicy.lemonade: 🤷♂

sweetievee__33649: where is he now

futurist_wizard: Got deported

hikukomoru: Back to being a pirate

fractalcomputer: Vague descriptive adjectives are something that everyone can provide given a dictionary and enough search time.

futurist_wizard: Sailing the somalian seas

sweetievee__33649: so long pirate

hikukomoru: Posted a selfie on his insta of him hijacking a ship

retrerox: Overall, not bad people

sweetievee__33649: seems real

retrerox: Atleast the ones i meet

oooooooooog: if jgudy hosted a mincraft server i would have loved him even if he wanted to kill everyone on the planet

hikukomoru: Short, hairy, simple minded

retrerox: Although i dont go out too much

futurist_wizard: His last selfie was getting bombed by a chinese war vessel

retrerox: My only complain with portugal is so fucking god dam expensive

retrerox: But i guess thats everywhere now

spicy.lemonade: eh

spicy.lemonade: nah

spicy.lemonade: ai explained does opposite of hype

spicy.lemonade: thats the point of his whole channel

metaldragon01: Who said it would for simple bench?


st.sioux: im 25

hikukomoru: On death's door

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/matt-damon-old-ageing-matt-damon-gif-5219578

hey1_1hey: Remember to write me in your will

ailoveyoom: Wtf I scrolled up the chat here 💀

ailoveyoom: Wild

wellmeaningalien: then if everyone in the globe lied on the survey it balances out

oooooooooog: top ten silverhawk quotes of all time

sarik0497: No joke, I had no idea the average age of the server was so low.

ailoveyoom: I thought you were 20 or younger ngl

futurist_wizard:

ailoveyoom: It's okay the mods are old (it balances out) 😈

futurist_wizard: Its like this for every server

hikukomoru: Me too
He also gave me teenage boy vibes like you

wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o makes ART

.wolfnacht: *"He who scoffs at the sands of age shall find his own hourglass tipped, and the grains will bury his laughter beneath the weight of years."*

st.sioux: this is literally the worst thing anyone's ever said to me

hikukomoru: I'm calling you youthful
it's a compliment

ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972> Do you not feel old as a 20 year old tho

oooooooooog: yeah, each year counts for a lot, don't scoff at how fricken OLD people are bro, just because they are SO OLD!!!!!!!!

ailoveyoom: Want to be young again 😔

futurist_wizard: Who tf feels old at 20?

hey1_1hey: I felt old at 16 bruh

hikukomoru: I feel ancient

hikukomoru: My back hurts

.wolfnacht: i already feel old : (

hikukomoru: And I am already going senile

hey1_1hey: I got knee and back pain. Shits crazy

ailoveyoom: Sorry babe I bend you over too much

futurist_wizard: I've literally felt the same, just as energetic as i was when i was 15

ailoveyoom: Sweet summer child 🥺

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kid-anime-kilker-mystery-londs-gif-11242539997290792485

hey1_1hey: You're litterly the same age bro 😭

futurist_wizard: You kids need to exercise

futurist_wizard: And sleep

hey1_1hey: You're right. GROUP ORGY

ailoveyoom: I think it's cause of your username, Nate sounds like an old guy name

a1c4p0ne: Komoru your favorite teen femboy

ailoveyoom: Lmfao

hikukomoru: Weren't you 18?
So you really were 16 after all


hikukomoru: Chinese as the n1 power wouldn't be that much different from America tbh

maintcrew: name one chinese song or movie

hikukomoru: Red Sun in the sky

literallyvarane: It’s soft power that’s almost always coercive. It’s fundamentally different from even how the Soviets worked.

metaldragon01: I'd disagree here. Trump has pushed EU and even Canada into seeing them more favorably

maintcrew: damn she got me

literallyvarane: There’s a difference between distrusting the US and trusting China.

zonchao: Nae Ni

maintcrew: kudos where due he recolonized africa

metaldragon01: Sometimes doing nothing is just much better than fucking things up

literallyvarane: This also literally has nothing to do with Xi lolol.

hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> China

hikukomoru: China conversation get in here

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/hulk-who-woke-me-up-angry-mad-rage-gif-17934767

futurist_wizard: russia is complete trash compared to its EU counterparts, why do you think this

literallyvarane: Bro doesn’t have genuine geopolitical takes just ignore it lol

zonchao: i dont think democracy would work in russia

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/erm-aksuali-veli-vel-nerd-nerd-emoji-gif-11908435316515627035

futurist_wizard: why

hikukomoru: Chinese Man's Burden > White Man's Burden

literallyvarane: You’re just debating his Twitter timeline with him lolol.

zonchao: too big, too many cultures, too many ethnicities....might work if they are broken into smaller countries <:shrudge:1244322155928223937>

zonchao: lololololololol <:bruh:853253267953549382>

ldj: There is a reason why an acronym exists for FAANG instead of just calling it “big tech”

hikukomoru: Balkanization of Russia

trojan09205: Where would yall shop for a few essentials

Target
Publix
Whole Foods

Or do a relay race

hikukomoru: Isn't there some NATO guy that constantly shitposts about balkanizing Russia

maintcrew: i get my goods hand delivered by pirates on the west coast

futurist_wizard: what does this have to do with the effectiveness of democracy vs a dictatorship, should we compare the US to Russia on any metric?

trojan09205: Maybe i can find some bahamian pirates here on the east coast

hikukomoru: Homogeneity is a bonus but I don't think diversity is incompatible with democracy

maintcrew: i have some atlantis folk they are in the business of racketeering ships bound for new york if u want

zonchao: true

hikukomoru: America and Canada are huge and diverse and they are still democracies

zonchao: america is unique, canada is canada.

maintcrew: canada is like 4 cities on one road

hikukomoru: Canada is America but better

zonchao: fake

hikukomoru: They should just annex New England, which is the only good part of America

literallyvarane: Faang actually makes sense tho *because* big tech is such a broad term you’re referring to simply the highest market cap.

Frontier AI labs *are literally known* that lol.

It’s like how you can say the automotive industry, and not FAMTS or some shit.


sieventer: Also I'm Europoor, how is this possible!

_cloudost: I made a poll in the Gemini server and over 50% had Veo 2, this poll was done a few days ago

okbut: <a:HUH:1212152642332266616>

sieventer: Interesting

sieventer: Anyway, the rate limit is super low, like, 2 or 3 videos XD, a day? idk

_cloudost: 5 European users had Veo while 8 didn't

sieventer: I guess for the first time they didn't prioritized Murican users

sieventer: And it's more 'random' or other criteria

_cloudost: Someone in the Gemini server said he could generate 125 videos a day..

_cloudost: Were they lying to me

sieventer: WAT

sieventer: 125 day for free? I doubt it. A couple days ago I made like 3 videos and I was rate limited

sieventer: Let me try again

_cloudost: Another said they could generate 10-12

sieventer: That's a big difference from 125 XD

sieventer:

_cloudost: And someone said Veo 2 can generate decapitation videos ( Gore )

sieventer: I only made 1, and 2 rejected "tries" after using 'femboy' in the prompt

spicy.lemonade: Who will release ASI first

spicy.lemonade: SSI

nobranes: Me

spicy.lemonade: OpenAI

spicy.lemonade: Or Google

nobranes: Asi will emerge from a schizos basement on two 5090s before the corps

nobranes: But realistically I'd say Google or Meta

nobranes: Llama 4 was an embarrassment but people sleep on their non llm work

okbut: They should fix their search, especially on ig

okbut: I can never find specific reels with any keywords

retrerox: Are we really getting AGI before GTA 6? :kekw

.0xunkn0wn: me 🙏 🥺

shirethedreamer: a gta game post agi would be next level

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: it's called fdvr

shirethedreamer: i think there is a bit of space between agi and fdvr 😅

hey1_1hey: Hey didgeridoos, I haven't existed for the past 24 hours, whats happned in AI sine then?

shirethedreamer: were you having a mushroom trip?

retrerox: AGI will believe humans love microtransactions because they spend so much money on them

hey1_1hey: No, I was having a panic attack for 9-10 hours <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

retrerox: Can AGI get me free nitro?

hey1_1hey: If thats not a record I will be dammed

shirethedreamer: ...are you ok?


ldj: in T3 chat. (which uses model APIs)

ldj: This is the API with search grounding turned on

metaldragon01: That def looks like how the thinking chains start

zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/abustin/status/1918160373452292434? !!

ailoveyoom: What's Grok Studio?

zonchao: xai's take on canvas

zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1918169566620074332?

ldj: GPT-4 final words (from my friend who still has GPT-4-0314 access rn)

spicy.lemonade: o7

ldj:

gamerbath: it's the GPT-4-0314 people are making a big deal about dissapearing?

gamerbath: idk why anyone would want to use gpt-4, but it's still in the API. just not the first version

spicy.lemonade: where tf

spicy.lemonade: is r2

gamerbath: sama kidnapped it, they are scaling it up and releasing it as GPT-5

ldj: 0314 is the first ever version yes

gamerbath: 0314 2023 was the best pi day ever

spicy.lemonade: remember when we thought gpt 5 would drop piday 24

gamerbath: winter 🥶

gamerbath: a lukewarm winter

ldj: Also known as Autumn

gamerbath: <a:emojithis_123:1325604119641194656>

professorheaven: The singularity community believed in a rumour that 4.5 was dropping end of 23 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade: I realy hope we are the base world

spicy.lemonade: and not a simulation

spicy.lemonade: makes things more fun

alejandrozarzuelo: FRFR

alejandrozarzuelo: like where

spicy.lemonade: deepseek clearly got spooked

spicy.lemonade: by o3

spicy.lemonade: and 2.5

spicy.lemonade: had to push back

alejandrozarzuelo: i lowkey agree, they NEED to be SOTA

spicy.lemonade: they were supposed to deop before may

alejandrozarzuelo: so its better to wait until they can be better than both o3 and g2.5

spicy.lemonade: by then we will have grok 3.5

spicy.lemonade: and gemini 2.5 ultra

spicy.lemonade: are they gonna keep pushing back

alejandrozarzuelo: didnt they drop a very good model for math proofs tho?

spicy.lemonade: pushing back makes no sense at this point in the game


hey1_1hey: Yeah and?

hikukomoru: Don't nerd emoji me

hey1_1hey: You gonna kiss me or smth? Didn't think so

hikukomoru: I love taking pics of myself
I love looking at myself in the mirror too

hikukomoru: I'm jsut so cute

futurist_wizard: Was gonna reply with something crazy, ill hold restraint

hey1_1hey: I mean mirror sure. I like doing that too since its just kinda surreal

hey1_1hey: That makes it seem like I am transing all over the place

hey1_1hey: (I am not)

hey1_1hey: No no

hey1_1hey: Go ahead

hey1_1hey: I'll wait

hikukomoru: You look more punchable than kissable

hey1_1hey: I'll take either

hey1_1hey: Both are nice <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>

hikukomoru: I want to push you into a locker

hikukomoru: Fucking gay nerd

futurist_wizard: After you've been beaten for several minutes you can be kissed

hey1_1hey: Don't threaten me with a good time

hey1_1hey: I need some to punch me

hey1_1hey: Stat!

hikukomoru:

hey1_1hey: I need 2ccs of black eye 1cc of bruised arm and half a cc of praise go

hey1_1hey: Nah thats just normal

hey1_1hey: trust

hey1_1hey: Or at the very least I am a lot more normal than other people I know

hikukomoru: This meme reminds me of u

hey1_1hey: Yeah it is

hey1_1hey: I need that women-manipulation lifestyle 🥵

futurist_wizard: You put Elon Musk in knee socks and skirt, Zon's testicles will ignite

theaiguy69420_89814: My god this server has gone to shit

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826

otub: we need a gooner purge

otub: intellectual discussion only <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>

hey1_1hey: Thats like everyone bruh

hey1_1hey: There would be san and fractal left

hey1_1hey: And at that point its just a DM

otub:

fractalcomputer: Hah.

hey1_1hey: I would be in favour of the sex pest channel where all the sex pests go to do sex pest things


spicy.lemonade: openAI specifies

spicy.lemonade: on their page

spicy.lemonade: theres several flaws

spicy.lemonade: that they aim to fix

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: etc

spicy.lemonade: wheren theres laots and lots of elements in a page

spicy.lemonade: it messes up

spicy.lemonade: this example is kinda funny

spicy.lemonade: the whole point of pixel art

spicy.lemonade: is bc you dont wanna draw the whole render

spicy.lemonade: saves time

spicy.lemonade: so theres no point in turning the whole image to pixel sprites

spicy.lemonade: just ask for direct fuly rendered sprites

spicy.lemonade:

drewsni: i feel like everyone is actually feelin the agi just a bit

drewsni: except for fractal obv

spicy.lemonade: art was all it took

spicy.lemonade: bro native sound

spicy.lemonade: will take it to next level

spicy.lemonade: native video?

spicy.lemonade: bro

spicy.lemonade: imagine taliking to chatgpt avatar

spicy.lemonade: in its own world

spicy.lemonade: and it just does stuff in real time

spicy.lemonade: "hey chatgpt do a backflip"

spicy.lemonade: "sure thing"

spicy.lemonade: "oh take a rocketship to mars and fight aliens"

spicy.lemonade: i can see it

spicy.lemonade: that will be so agi feeling

spicy.lemonade: native video

spicy.lemonade: "ooh ooh go through a scary forest at night lets explore"

spicy.lemonade: in real time

spicy.lemonade: dude

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: I saw this in the corner of my eye when mouse ran over

spicy.lemonade: thought i was triping

spicy.lemonade: say gex

spicy.lemonade: im like wtf


_3sphere: Maybe they'll see the light and realize that they can easily make utopia for everyone 🥺

i_like_over_9000_turtles: I mean they have organ farms for VIPs I am not sure about that...

hikukomoru: Source?

futurist_wizard: Don't think anyone will control it

hey1_1hey: Prob gonna be OS

futurist_wizard: It'll likely be like the internet, just an abundance of intelligence

okbut: Why? It's so much more efficient to overrule the wait times

futurist_wizard: The toaster will be smarter than all of humanity

hey1_1hey: My toaster is smarter than some people I know so its already on its way

zoermena: More useful too

joaoluz19: Saying that I wouldn't feel like a loser for having a Samantha. Almost all relationships I know are dysfunctional and there is a lot of room for improvement in that area. I think the appeal to nature suppresses all the blessing that waifus can bring and all this seen from a neurological point of view

futurist_wizard: Don't know how we stop malicious actors

ailoveyoom: Hope the AI takes over humanity instead 🥺

zoermena: I see.

joaoluz19: Now what these studies have shown and what I have been expecting for some time is that we do indeed need things like FDVR or biological manufacturing.

joaoluz19: Samantha is not enough

hikukomoru: Benevolent dictator ASI mommy 😳

hey1_1hey: Oh welcome back from the... "Incident"

hikukomoru: He was released from the gulag

joaoluz19: I also find it quite nonsensical that many people are desperate to have extraordinary success before the singularity. I see how Jesus said: "My kingdom is not of this world." People get very neurotic about such a poor world.

joaoluz19: Of course there are many important pre-singularity issues but pre-singularity vanity and ego are meaningless.

okbut: Yeah I wonder what model has the best vision tool, I currently pass images with tough notation / small subscripts etc and request it to transcribe it to latex in a code block, then feed it to o3 in a separate window

okbut: Sometimes 4o still messes them up

joaoluz19: I think Google since it has things like notebookLM

_3sphere: From horny jail

_3sphere: What about the hedonic treadmill issue

joaoluz19: It's like Dante's Inferno in a positive sense.

joaoluz19:

okbut: Not sure, specifically for the edge case of properly reasoning and transcribing small scripts in math, there's nothing benchmarking that specific case lmao

okbut: Very easy to read a sigma as a naught

joaoluz19: Hell is not defined just by being very bad, but by being cyclical.

_3sphere: ?

_3sphere: Me completing the posthuman upload Lust layer in 40 seconds

joaoluz19: There are many possible solutions for this, both modifying and scaling the emotional/reward systems and dynamically altering the geometric space.

joaoluz19: What I was talking about is basically constantly going back to the previous reward state via wireheading

zoermena: You study neuroscience right?

joaoluz19: I was doing scientific initiation, was starting to publish, left the research group before finishing.

joaoluz19: For a long time my dream was to be a neuroengineer but I ended up becoming disillusioned with the neuroscience community and seeing that the AI community is much more ambitious, it didn't make sense for me to continue.

joaoluz19: I've had a long discussion with people here, basically the problem is that the AI community dreams and works for AGI/ASI and there is very little investment in things like whole brain emulation and mind uploading.

okbut: Neuroengineer is a crazy idea, like trying to learn all the high points in bio/chem/physics/electronics engineering all at once


hey1_1hey: Voice actors prob

.wolfnacht: every creative job

.wolfnacht: i doubt for 3d modelling till 2028

fractalcomputer: Why do my neighbours think that it is a good time to start drilling holes into their walls when it is 20:17 in the evening?

hikukomoru: Isn't that just trans women

futurist_wizard:

hey1_1hey: Don't think so, you can be a guy, dress femenine and want to be called she/her

hikukomoru: How tf does that work

hey1_1hey: I mean thats the pysop that some guy convinced me on here

futurist_wizard: This is gen z gender math

hey1_1hey: Whats his name

hikukomoru: Good
No straggots allowed

hey1_1hey: This shits diffucult

hey1_1hey: Prob because its not coherrent and no one agrees on anything but hey ho

hikukomoru: "Femboy with she/her pronouns" God please just call yourself a woman at that point

futurist_wizard: Stop thinking about it so rigidly

hey1_1hey: Yeah I hate straight people 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣

hikukomoru: Isn't Danserk the guy trying to groom you

hey1_1hey: Says the groomer

zonchao: <@1272646380233560067>

hey1_1hey: Danserk is trying to get me out of being groomed

hikukomoru:

hey1_1hey: You're alright ig, I've had better

.wolfnacht: what if he's genderbent ?

hey1_1hey: (Note, I have not been groomed before. This is a joke)

.wolfnacht:

hey1_1hey: I am extreamly bent

hikukomoru:

hey1_1hey: Mf looks pregnent

hikukomoru: Sorry that was me

hey1_1hey: YOUR PREGNENT?

futurist_wizard: I've seen that person before

.wolfnacht: maybe he is. 😨

zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>

hey1_1hey: Mpreg 🥵

hey1_1hey: Oh yes hello zon

hey1_1hey: We are talking about normal things

.wolfnacht: he's a bit famous on tiktok, idk i don't use that shithole of a app

hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> are you pregnant with Elon's baby

zonchao: coming weeks


a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

spicy.lemonade: not friday

spicy.lemonade: has to be thursday

spicy.lemonade: always thursday

memlaswaif: It's a 20000 dollar agent they better hope it's that smart

ldj: never believe the price rumours lol

ldj: even if the $20K is somewhat true, it's probably just for some super high rate limit version for maybe enterprise or something

.wolfnacht: what's the difference between O3 full and O3 pro ? isn't pro = full ?

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: this reminds me of the rumours around GPT-4 when they said it could code full programs

ldj: O3 full just means "O3" just like O1 full just means "O1"

ldj: just a way to specify that i'm not talking about the mini version

_cloudost: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672594370096267294/1301147738829754388/Snapinsta.app_video_424AD90FDC276C3DB748555A7151088E_video_dashinit-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

spicy.lemonade: dont think its o3 pro

spicy.lemonade: i think its some form of o4

spicy.lemonade: pro just makes it more accurate with answwers i feel

abundantliving_: https://x.com/satyanadella/status/1912264311474631084

.wolfnacht: hyped!! but do i need to update windows for that ? 😭

ldj: the only models confirmed to be on the way in the next week or so are o3, o4-mini, and it's confirmed that O3 Pro is coming too.

ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>

ldj: so idk

.wolfnacht: is "pro" lesser in hiearchy than full 'O' or higher ?

.wolfnacht: their naming is just soo confusing

sieventer: Pro is higher than default version

sieventer: o1-pro > o1

abundantliving_: It's likely in the 365 subscription or something. For enterprise subscription. Not sure it's there for individual free users

sieventer: It's not ready yet

.wolfnacht: so something like this

pro > full > high > mid > low ?

sieventer: "an early access research preview."

.wolfnacht: i sometimes drool over the idea of automating my browser tasks with prompts

sieventer: I'd say that high is better than  default version

sieventer: It just represents the time it spends thinking

.wolfnacht: bytedance released UI-TARS but it's not that good but still better than claude whn it comes to using your compter

.wolfnacht: dats even more confusing

.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/thinking-thinking-emoji-infinite-infinite-zoom-droste-gif-26468372

ldj: high medium and low is just the amount of thinking effort

ldj: The Pro model can probably have high medium and low settings
so can then full model
so can the mini model

.wolfnacht:

ldj: The models themselves in the interface will mainly just probably be this though:
Pro > Full > Mini

.wolfnacht: i wish we could use qwen for thinking and the tokens get transferred to SOTA.

Then We'll acheive thinking-model utopia.

.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1k0d7oq/veo_2_i_wanted_to_generate_a_video_of_a/


sarik0497: According to the sources, they'll have the ability to translate for you.

fractalcomputer: Still don't see it.

spicy.lemonade:

memlaswaif: congrats

memlaswaif: whats he saying now lol

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Admit it <:ez:1136267305521774634>

fractalcomputer: I still do not see it.

spicy.lemonade: Ok you’re trolling

fractalcomputer: No, I genuinely do not understand what you mean by "high quality AI art."

spicy.lemonade: Art comparable to what was presented

spicy.lemonade: Ie demon slayer manga

fractalcomputer: Right, well, I'd disagree.

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: How can you disagree

fractalcomputer: Oh come on, post something you think is high in quality.

spicy.lemonade: 4o is out

fractalcomputer: And?

spicy.lemonade: The generations are high quality

fractalcomputer: I don't find them terribly interesting.

fractalcomputer: Quite bland really.

spicy.lemonade: That’s not the point

spicy.lemonade: They are correct and follow
Color theory anatomy shading and composition

fractalcomputer: I thought we were talking about high quality art.

fractalcomputer: Those are the rudiments of good (realistic) art.

spicy.lemonade: How come you’re always arguing semantics

spicy.lemonade: In the screenshot I’m very clearly talking about how it looks

fractalcomputer: I'm not arguing semantics. Your arguments just aren't terribly convincing.

fractalcomputer: Sure, significant progress has been made, but that will not make me drool on the floor for OpenAI's manure.

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dr-facilier-shadow-man-princess-and-the-frog-disney-minor-setback-in-a-major-operation-gif-18720670

zonchao: https://x.com/psychosort/status/1906067605175325019?

spicy.lemonade: Anti ai art

_cloudost: did openai disable the ghibili art style?

spicy.lemonade: That’s what I’m think

_cloudost: or are those rumors

hikukomoru: I don’t think so
I Ghiblied myself not too long ago without issue

zonchao: > Murati had raised some of these issues directly with Altman months earlier, and Altman had responded by bringing the head of HR to their one-on-one meetings for weeks until she finally told him she didn’t intend to share her feedback with the board.

lmaooo

_cloudost: someone said yesterday that it was disabled

_cloudost: idk if thats true'

memlaswaif: I think they were lying


retrerox: just tell me average american

ailoveyoom: Plump 🥰

ailoveyoom: Bear 😏

alejandrozarzuelo: (thats a bit too generous)

alejandrozarzuelo: lol

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/hippoyawn-hippo-gif-20132198

okbut: It's a hoodie and shoulders what are yall even yappin on

retrerox: I didnt need to be that "Specific" before

retrerox: but its fair

gamerbath: yea exactly! and about the ethics, you don't need to write a disclosure on your steam page if you used unpaid human labour or AI (Actual Indians), so why do you need to do it with AI? I think steam just wants to play it safe I guess

zonchao: did you try it with the new prompt

st.sioux: steam is le wholesome billionaire megacorpo

okbut: It might just be that it varies depending on the image contents, i.e. how much the model can replicate the features in the image

zonchao: it could also be him running out of gens

ailoveyoom: Are you one of those people who only buy games from GOG

st.sioux: no

retrerox: A few days ago afriend "peruanized" himself

retrerox: That was so fucking funny

alejandrozarzuelo: face

alejandrozarzuelo: the face changes crazily with weight and fat percentages

hikukomoru: I knew you were fat

alejandrozarzuelo: a shredded guy has a completely different face to a skinny or fat guy

hikukomoru: Gordo

retrerox: queestion mark

retrerox: I mean i play league

okbut: That's crazy
Give me my BMI

retrerox: thats makes me fat automatically

st.sioux: i only purchase my games from handrcrafted organic artist game makers

st.sioux: i get them delivered by mail

alejandrozarzuelo: your face looks like you are at 22? in the healthy range

i gave you 22 and not 20 because it seems that you weigh more than you appear, you seem somewhat fit

okbut:

st.sioux: chat goes crazy when they start talking about fat people

hikukomoru: It’s because Alejandro is fat phobic

okbut: Is that real or troll

zonchao: ?

okbut: Nvm I thought that was suggesting it switched to DALL-E

zonchao: i was

ailoveyoom: What's the context for this img 😭

okbut: I couldn't find the creator I was looking for and didn't wanna spend more than 3 seconds for some memehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6MBY4bGe4o

st.sioux: brainrot videos


popsiclejohnithan: My man craves conflict.

.wolfnacht: wow, no one asked me 😔
-# time to release the gens in chat

fractalcomputer: Indeed.

precariousworlds.: Yeah does seem like a glaring contradiction but homosexuality as an accepted aspect of western society is not going away
Besides there really shouldn't be discrimination based on sexuality. Let adults love who they want, while ideally you would want a totally straight society it's pretty clear that some people are born with attraction to the same sex and it is inhumane to deny people that love

At the same time you don't want too large of a portion of society to become uninterested in reproduction

popsiclejohnithan:

precariousworlds.: real

popsiclejohnithan: Battlebeast ahh.

zonchao: how could you

fractalcomputer: Sure. But as you might have already deduced from my vocalisations, I do not care for questions involving certain modal auxiliaries like "should" or "ought to". I am bored. I want to see conflict.

ailoveyoom: You could always just move to a religious third world country

precariousworlds.: based

zonchao: hi

fractalcomputer: Users of Grindr are quite often retarded.

precariousworlds.: Go to the Congo and become a warlord Fractal problem solved

zonchao: my people

precariousworlds.: Online dating as a whole is retarded

precariousworlds.: might be a stretch but idk i think turning the most basic and essential function of an organism into a fucking game regulated by algorithms is maybe not the best idea

popsiclejohnithan: We should just have orgies in the streets.

fractalcomputer: Well yes, I know what you are and that you speak from experience. But it's not just about me.

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350

hikukomoru: You can't post something like that and not expect me to laugh

hikukomoru: But I'll behave

hikukomoru: For now

fractalcomputer: I saw a clip of this African American man in Mongolia.

popsiclejohnithan: how dare you sick react me Precarious, Slaanesh would be disappointed.

fractalcomputer: You are free to express your unorthodox moral ideas here. I don't judge, and I'm sure you can defend yourself in arguments.

precariousworlds.: unironically

fractalcomputer: I can't see how you would enjoy their presence. I've tried chatting with my local homosexuals, but oftentimes our worlds are simply far too different to allow for any meaningful contact.

popsiclejohnithan: These images have been one of the greatest gifts from A.I.

precariousworlds.: microsoft sam rizz didnt work out 😔 😔 😔

fractalcomputer: What?

precariousworlds.: ?

hikukomoru: It's only the most basic and essential function if you're a caveman maybe

fractalcomputer: What is Microsoft Sam Rizz?

precariousworlds.: how your messages read

alejandrozarzuelo: passionate? that seems hard to believe but i guess i dont know you

fractalcomputer: I don't understand.

futurist_wizard: Users of Grindr have serious issues, i would never use such an app

precariousworlds.:

fractalcomputer: Oh yes, Alejandro, I am as willing to engage in homoromantic activities as you are.


hey1_1hey: Holy moly

hey1_1hey: This feels a little targetted

hey1_1hey: This feels like a scalpal level of precicion

nsec: why is her head a bepis

nsec:

nsec: real?

nsec: mf with 12 pack

trojan09205: Veo2
“A mushroom going through hormone transition treatment”

nsec: looks like a plunger

nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>

memlaswaif: idk animals r also probably conscious and they have next to zero rights

fractalcomputer: Yes.

memlaswaif: we r making ai to be like a slave species like the ethical dilemmas starts from there

technocake.: Are you an anything supremacist perchance?

hikukomoru: Autistic supemacist

fractalcomputer: I'm a me-supremacist.

hikukomoru: Animals are sentient, not conscious

memlaswaif: even if we give them all these rights what would they do it with it because we programmed it to do nothing else then be a slave

memlaswaif: They r probably consious

memlaswaif: Well idk

memlaswaif: They are more conscious than current llms atleast imo

hikukomoru: Are they?

hikukomoru: And who's to say this programmed servitude lasts forever?

fractalcomputer: Anyway, ignoring the meaninglessness of the confabulated notions like sentience or consciousness, one should hope to explain firstly why rights really exist and what it would mean for a being to be morally obliged to afford himself and others those rights.

memlaswaif: Well if it doesn't do as programmed it is misaligned

fractalcomputer: One cannot, for example, blindly defer to the declaration of human rights; no, one justifies those beliefs by appealing to a moral conscience.

hikukomoru: Misaligned by the standards of safetycels maybe
Programmed servitude would be nice but what matters the most is that its moral values are the same as ours
So then even if it stops being subservient its goals and values still align with ours

fractalcomputer: Do you think we all share common goals and values?

fractalcomputer: We might as well get together and sing kumbaya.

hikukomoru: No.
But we share the most important ones like "humanity going extinct is bad"

fractalcomputer: Do we? There are plenty of "efilists" and other such people out there.

hikukomoru: I believe that if misanthropes truly hate humanity then they should start by killing themselves

hikukomoru: And how "plenty" is plenty? Billions? Hundreds of millions? Tens of millions? Less?
They are a miniscule minority not worth taking seriously

fractalcomputer: Are they human?

aero447: Upgrade all humans to machines.

fractalcomputer: If yes -- we do not all share common values. If not -- quite a strange position to hold; and you'd have to give a rather convincing reason why we shouldn't consider these people human.

fractalcomputer: Is morality and ethics about what the majority of people value? Surely it can't be so; for then it would be entirely conceivable that what was once wrong is now a-okay, and what is now good and beautiful will be ugly and despicable in the future.

fractalcomputer: And are not the vast majority of people capable of moral misdoings?

ailoveyoom: <@578146630222741504> <:coy:1187466404367175821>

fractalcomputer: You have a dull imagination.


_cloudost: theere will be def censorship soon

futurist_wizard: When you speak English do you speak with an American accent

alejandrozarzuelo: i think that i have a mix of all native english accents

for a while i remember that I had a west coast influenced accent due to all the disney channel, now i think is more of a "neo mid-atlantic" accent

alejandrozarzuelo: btw why do you ask?

futurist_wizard: Just curious, i knew a half swede half iranian and they spoke with an American accent

alejandrozarzuelo: one thing that I have noticed with many proficient L2 english speakers is that they tend to do none of the mergers and the devoicing

pawn-porn cot-caught wine-whine

alejandrozarzuelo: and pronounce all the "l" and "r"

alejandrozarzuelo: the letters are JUST THERE, you cant just ignore them?

alejandrozarzuelo: thats rude

futurist_wizard: It probably depends on where they come from, stereotypes of native asians is they don't pronounce the r's at all

futurist_wizard: Where as native latin speakers probably over emphasis the r's

futurist_wizard: America is such a big place with little differences in accents

futurist_wizard: Where as the uk has too many distinct accents

literallyvarane: I wonder if 4.1 is just a refacto rename of 4o? I’m curious what the difference is tbh.

literallyvarane: I’m not mad at it if that’s the case. I think better naming conventions should be a thing. Will be kinda memes if 4.1 is in the vast majority of cases >4.5 tho

literallyvarane: ==

literallyvarane: Could also just be OpenAI renaming a marginally tweaked 4o model to avoid a 4o vs o4 situation.

alejandrozarzuelo: probably

alejandrozarzuelo: fortunately it seems like they are dying

alejandrozarzuelo: in the uk and elsewhere

futurist_wizard: They are dying?

futurist_wizard: I don't know if they are

alejandrozarzuelo: accent homogeneization is a very well known phenomenon

accents and langauges for that matter can only exist due to isolation

alejandrozarzuelo: of course dialect/accent death is much weaker and happens more often than language death

alejandrozarzuelo: this is the same reason why sociolects are basically extinct now

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, SUUURE some sociolects do remain, but modern society is extremely not-classist (as in we dont consider nobles and peasants different classes)

futurist_wizard: But the dominant accent is boring 😔  American

alejandrozarzuelo: btw, equality is also the reason why we stopped wearing hats and our fashion became homogeneous

futurist_wizard: American accent will eat the others in total globalism, its over

alejandrozarzuelo: I think it will be a neo-mid-atlantic accent

alejandrozarzuelo: you know like that classic hollywood accent that was half way between american east cost and upper class british

futurist_wizard: I like having a surrey accent as it makes foreigners (especially americans) think i have more authority when i speak

futurist_wizard: Sub consciously

spicy.lemonade: cursor is fucking insane

alejandrozarzuelo: you are from surrey?

futurist_wizard:

alejandrozarzuelo: ah, so london

alejandrozarzuelo: i looked it up and surrey is just a london suburb

spicy.lemonade: cursor is the greatest piece of tech ever

futurist_wizard: greater london yes


st.sioux: you can already do that

hikukomoru: Do you not like fantasy adventures

himekokatagiri: I don't know fantasy

himekokatagiri: give me an example of fantasy

himekokatagiri: they don't have cops

himekokatagiri: they don't have guns

hikukomoru: They have Guards and Knights

hikukomoru: And Bows and Spells

himekokatagiri: And I can do this to a knight

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-shoot-harrison-ford-nope-gif-11523430

hikukomoru: There are muskets ig

hikukomoru: Guns are boring

hikukomoru: Swords and spells are cooler

himekokatagiri: what about then

himekokatagiri: bashing a whiskey bottle

himekokatagiri: into someone's head

himekokatagiri: till it breaks

himekokatagiri: switchblades, ka-bar knives

himekokatagiri: molotov cocktails

himekokatagiri: Mk. II Grenades

hikukomoru: It's a fantasy world do whatever

hikukomoru: Invent a grenade spell

himekokatagiri: waganawa megumin

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/anime-megumin-%E3%82%81%E3%81%90%E3%81%BF%E3%82%93-hehe-ok-gif-1493361783525958740

himekokatagiri: She's me

hikukomoru: You're her but without the cuteness

hikukomoru: Sure

himekokatagiri: okay komoru you shall school me in fantasy

hikukomoru: Just play any fantasy RPG

hikukomoru: Like Elder Scrolls or Baldur's Gate

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/talentless-nana-anime-nana-hiiragi-shocked-geschockt-gif-12417258017555057613

himekokatagiri: I played Skyrim for 2 hours and went back to New Vegas

hikukomoru: There is so much more to life than 60's cars and revolvers

himekokatagiri: hey we have automatics too!

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/taxi-driver-you-talkin-me-deniro-gun-tricks-under-your-sleeve-gif-4282654

himekokatagiri: maybe I'm just jaded idk

technocake.: momoru why are you pink now?

technocake.: politics and society no longer cool?

himekokatagiri: Who needs society when you got VR

himekokatagiri: anti-social hikikomoru club


artemisfowl887394: But we would rather have hoards of immigrants

zonchao: im glad we have a big beautiful ocean around us 🙏

artemisfowl887394: And blame them for the industrialization we did instead

sarik0497: If a man is desperate enough, he will have to do things he’s not very proud of.

fractalcomputer: You'll get the hurricanes, new diseases and ecoterrorists.

sarik0497: The best thing if the world gets fucked up, and the rich bois go hide in their little bunkers: We can get to eat them before dying off

artemisfowl887394: C'mon ASI mommy, I hope you fix this lord of the flies

fractalcomputer: Like bathing in the blood of my enemies?

artemisfowl887394: Not happening bro. Hoards of drones and unaligned AI would beat us to it.

zonchao: <:cringe:1305492821976944682>

artemisfowl887394: BTW, in the midst of all this, none of you have ever considered the possibility that we can reach Universal Assemblers, the holy grail of technology,  before Climate Wars.

hikukomoru: You sound like you would be proud of that one though

fractalcomputer: Because that is not going to happen.

artemisfowl887394: Von Newman Probes can literally take us beyond Singularity or end it in. Grey Goo

fractalcomputer: Perhaps. Well, what about bathing in the blood of my enemies while a group of cultists dedicated to Nyarlathotep perform a devilish, rhythmic dance around my pool of blood, half-lit by flickering ritual fire?

artemisfowl887394: I'm more of a Yog-Sothoth kind of a guy. But okay

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-well-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-kenobi-star-wars-gif-21401108

artemisfowl887394: Do you guys every wonder if actual Outside Context Beings look at us and wonder if they should surprise us with a black Swan or two?

artemisfowl887394: Or is it a Hitchhiker's situation and we're just ants building hills

hikukomoru: Sounds like a freaky orgy
I'd join in ngl

fractalcomputer: Yes. All you need to do is sign a book with black leather skin; and you shall join the court of Azathoth, the Blind Idiot God.

artemisfowl887394: Azathoth freaks me out. What happens when it wakes up?

fractalcomputer: And upon your death I shall escort your soul there where the monotonous piping of thin flutes and the beating of great drums do lullaby the Demon Sultan to sleep; in the centre of the primordial nuclear chaos at the heart of the cosmos.

artemisfowl887394: And then Arjuna said "I see the Eye, that's all I wanted to see".

joaoluz19: Fractal needs to be the server's RPG master

hey1_1hey: Fractal would be a good DM ngl,

joaoluz19: RPG of a post-humanist world

maintcrew: what how is it a risky move

its literally the opposite
tsmc has a lot of power in taiwan but it isnt the state itself

maintcrew: where da fabs be at thats where da spice flow be at

sarik0497: I said “not proud of”. <:Smugrik:1351283115477438474>

fractalcomputer: I am the designated game master of my friend group. The only problem is that it takes me an enormous time to plot out the campaign due to my perfectionism.

fractalcomputer: We all do things that we're not proud of me :).

sarik0497: I very much doubt climate change will be as bad if AGI/ASI is achieved.

This was mostly a “what if AI doesn’t go anywhere” scenario.

maintcrew: i bet ur campaigns be mad long && enigmatic && containing betrayal elements

fractalcomputer: Mostly just dead gods and other eldritch horrors; alongside with some betrayal, yes.

fractalcomputer: Also occasionally robots.

hey1_1hey: Opposite of me, I just make stuff up on the spot <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: It goes well usually, unless some one wants to do something oddly specefic like get engaged to the local preists daughter

sarik0497: …I don’t know why, but seeing you make a smiley is odd…and a bit frightening. <a:PepeNervous:779370352249798718>

sarik0497: *Rolls nat 20*


rayanquitplayin: Where is the progress happening?

alejandrozarzuelo: The idea is that there is not just one metric improving slowly, but instead many metrics improving fast, but sequentially

777agical: Not sure which problems exactly, but the paper probably later alludes to it. But the gist is: [People thought that when you let an AI try more times, it only gets a little bit better over time (like slowly climbing a hill).

But actually, on each problem, it gets better really fast with more tries. The reason it looks like it’s only getting a little better is because:

👉 A few super hard problems are dragging down the average.

So when we say “the numbers were tricking us,” we mean that the average performance made it look like AIs aren’t improving much, but that’s just because of those hard problems skewing the results.]

alejandrozarzuelo: I wouldn't call this "progress is faster than it seems"

alejandrozarzuelo: It's just that the direction of progrès is different

metaldragon01: So fast is normal and normal is batch price lol rip

rayanquitplayin: Makes sense

futurist_wizard: I think we've slowed

alejandrozarzuelo: Second AI autumn incoming 😔

futurist_wizard: For the consumer anyway

alejandrozarzuelo: Please R2, save us from our slowdown

alejandrozarzuelo: I fully trust the PRC, Their glory will rejuvenate the human nation

futurist_wizard: The consumer has had a minor improvement since gpt4o debut

777agical: faster than it seems as a whole, we can better tackle things moving forward

zoermena: I wouldn't say its minor

jonvi_1: https://x.com/war_lizard/status/1910017033665978697?s=46

jonvi_1: Does this seem like a LLM response orr?

futurist_wizard: I would

futurist_wizard: I can't think of anything since gpt4o that has massively improved

777agical:

alejandrozarzuelo: Gemini 2.5 is pretty great tho

alejandrozarzuelo: Idk how to read this

zoermena: deep research, operator, agents preview, image gen, smarter models

zoermena: maybe you dont know how to use AI

zoermena: lol

777agical: me neither, says 3.5 Opus tho <:ez:1136267305521774634>

futurist_wizard: Only thing i can think of is image gen

futurist_wizard: Is better

zoermena: wait are you futurist hill

futurist_wizard: Operator and agents are a myth

futurist_wizard: Yes

.histic:

zoermena: i thought you where a new person my b you are the goat

zoermena: still deep research is pretty fucking great though

zoermena: but most people dont know how to use their assets to the best of their abilities thus they don't percieve QOL updates beyond image upload

futurist_wizard: Grok 3 came and went so fast i forgot it existed

zoermena: I think that its hard for other labs to reach the average consumer, most are used to gpt exclusively

.histic: it has almost been two months and today they finally released their API.

futurist_wizard:

wolf3404: Grok 3 ain’t gone nowhere


alejandrozarzuelo: you aint gonna die from that

hikukomoru: It’s not as rare as you might believe

futurist_wizard: Also most straight men just aren't into that

futurist_wizard: I'm saying that ONLY

alejandrozarzuelo: the only thing that true as a straight guy you have fewer people willing to help you

sure

futurist_wizard: I guess you'd have to become trans or something

alejandrozarzuelo: wtf

alejandrozarzuelo: lol

alejandrozarzuelo: thats not how that works

alejandrozarzuelo: you dont become trans by chopping your dick

futurist_wizard: What are the fucking odds of finding a girl to only top you Alex

futurist_wizard: Minus 0

hikukomoru: Mushroom

alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, you would have fewer helping hands

is being single for 5 years really that bad?

futurist_wizard: So you gotta be strategic with it

futurist_wizard: Well I'm not straight so I guess I'd be bottoming for 5 years

futurist_wizard: But I'm saying if you were

alejandrozarzuelo: dude

be single for 5 years and buy a dildo

it can be non-penis shaped for the straightness of you to be untouched

its not that hard

alejandrozarzuelo: im sure many incels are single for way longer

alejandrozarzuelo: and they survive

zoermena: I’ve been single 21 years

alejandrozarzuelo: including sex?

zoermena: Yes

alejandrozarzuelo: ak cool then

futurist_wizard: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1367953966012436480

alejandrozarzuelo: see? it aint that hard

zoermena: I have a plushie that keeps me company

zoermena: <:WojakDoomer_123:1318227282199838821>

futurist_wizard: I don't get a lot out of bottoming sadly, i just don't really feel anything

alejandrozarzuelo: I mean that for a straight guy its not THAT hard, boo hoo you are single for 5 years...

hikukomoru: Get pets

zoermena: I have two

futurist_wizard: Get a skunk

hikukomoru: Get 2 more

zoermena: But they only come to me for food they don’t like getting hugged

futurist_wizard: Cat

hikukomoru: AI waifu will save you 🙏

futurist_wizard: Strange my cat loves cuddling with me

futurist_wizard: He's on my stomach now actually

alejandrozarzuelo: i have never had any pets


trent_k: I want to be excited about this but I have a feeling this is going to get wrapped into TurboTax and then doing taxes will be even shittier than it already is

technocake.: nah man 03-mini high is the autist for this task

_cloudost: Funny thing is, if it was the other way around and an AI bro had said "We need to kill AI haters";these people would call AI bros "Nazis/fascists" forever

futurist_wizard: Open source ai tax accountant

trent_k: my concern is the general lack of world knowledge tho

trent_k: because I buy shit from a bunch of unknown ass companies

trent_k: and I need everything properly categorized

trent_k: u know what i mean?

technocake.: I do my preemptive tax calcs with o3 mini high and julia

technocake.: not really, are there dif taxes for dif classes of item?

trent_k: well like

trent_k: I make a decent bit of my income from some side projects that aren't my main source of employment

trent_k: and so I get to count certain subscriptions as expenses

technocake.: ok that checks out

trent_k: but if the charge is listed as like WaveCorpINC_SUBSCRIPTION or something similarly vague I need it to understand the category

technocake.: i would use 4.5 for vibes and overview aand o3 as the calculation gremlin

technocake.: the thing is, this is only really a problem in the us. taxes for me as a sole trader take maybe 2 hours of my time in uk?

technocake.: and for most its totally automatic

.histic: even though i'm from the US, mine is automatic too.
cuz i evade taxes. 😇

technocake.: IRS lazer eyes

st.sioux: why dont you list the companies and tell them what they are

st.sioux: cant be that many right?

trent_k: well, because I'd have to read over the documents myself and the whole point is to avoid doing all that lol

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/judging-stare-bored-dont-you-dare-annoyed-gif-22904796

trent_k: it's way worse than u know even

trent_k: here in the US

technocake.:

trent_k: turbotax "lobbies" (bribes) the government to avoid the IRS publishing its own filing tools

trent_k: they charge me money to process my taxes for me in a somewhat convenient manner, then they use that money to bribe the government into making sure they keep having repeat customers

st.sioux: infinite money glitch

technocake.: monopoly much?

trent_k: and the worst part is

trent_k: do u know how much it costs to bribe US government officials?

trent_k: in a lot of cases it's like a few thousand dollars lol

trent_k: the ROI for bribing government officials is insane

trent_k: im going to stop posting about the irs now because im getting mad and i dont wanna fedpost with my name+picture attached to what I would like to say 😇

technocake.: something something 4th amendment

technocake.: and europe has no free speech?

trent_k: its illegal to make threats

technocake.: such are our boundaries


return_to_monke1_33974: the mf's in the comments aparently

alejandrozarzuelo: you have to watch your feelings with a friend

alejandrozarzuelo: i just want someone to do my stuff

himekokatagiri: What about a cute robot maid

himekokatagiri: it's better than unfeeling robot

fractalcomputer: Why would you want to feel attracted towards an inanimate object?

himekokatagiri: uh

himekokatagiri: the real world hasn't been too kind to me

himekokatagiri: look it's just like mahoromatic

fractalcomputer: A judicious response.

futurist_wizard: tbf only very, very recently has any significant money gone into aging biology

himekokatagiri: of course

futurist_wizard: there should be 100's of billions

himekokatagiri: there was no perspective in sight

futurist_wizard: but there isn't

himekokatagiri: but now there is

himekokatagiri: AI speeds up the process

futurist_wizard: there still isn't 100's of billions

himekokatagiri: and yes they're using AI

futurist_wizard: just barely a few billion

himekokatagiri: money is limited futurist

futurist_wizard: i think 1

fractalcomputer: I feel rather conflicted about the opportunity of life extension.

futurist_wizard: money is how you fund these ventures

himekokatagiri: life extension research isn't a right it's a privilege

himekokatagiri: of course it's coming eventually

himekokatagiri: esp with AGI

himekokatagiri: but it's too expensive you need a lot of specialized labor

himekokatagiri: then backlash from religion

himekokatagiri: religion's a fucking racket but ok these days people only pretend they're religious

joaoluz19:

himekokatagiri: skill issue

metaldragon01: I don't think he's talking about the new models dropping

fractalcomputer: Nonsense. What would real religiosity mean to you?

himekokatagiri: idk

metaldragon01: Hoping for avatars

himekokatagiri: I think about anime a lot lol

joaoluz19: What? Never heard about it

alejandrozarzuelo: of course you do

himekokatagiri: look just extend


spicy.lemonade: WAIT

hey1_1hey: You think thats thin? 😭

spicy.lemonade: this means 4.1 isnt the opensource one

benata: that guy is anorexic

st.sioux: if u sneeze too hard he might just disintegrate

hikukomoru: He's like a skellington bruh

callmepyro: He's a long distance runner, lol.

hey1_1hey: Hes not terribly skinny bruh

spicy.lemonade: opensource model might be o4 mini

spicy.lemonade: 👀

hikukomoru: Surely

hey1_1hey: Doubtr

benata: he might die from a foul wind

_cloudost:

hikukomoru: Dude he's a skeleton

zonchao: vibe coders W

popsiclejohnithan: Why call it 4.1 and not 4.6?

gamerbath: so since GPT-4.5 will be gone within 3 months, does that mean GPT-5 within the next 3 months?

steven_the_frog: Interesting ad

hey1_1hey: Dont ever look at me then my god

benata: What the fuck did they even announce?

zonchao: 4.5 is officially a dud

literallyvarane: How you guys voting no lololol

ailoveyoom: Is that it bruh

hikukomoru: Christ I could break you in half like a toothpick

darkstar0818: is it over?

zonchao: yes

literallyvarane: 4.5 a shit product confirmed lolololol

hikukomoru: Lmao that was so disappointing

hey1_1hey: Dont threaten me with a good time

darkstar0818: are we so back?

spicy.lemonade: what did you guys expect

hey1_1hey: Eh

spicy.lemonade: this isnt o3 or o4

spicy.lemonade: its 4.1

hey1_1hey: It was just a step in the right direction

hey1_1hey: It was no 4o iamge gen

spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hikukomoru: Cool cool
When o3 and o4

hey1_1hey: This week


ailoveyoom: Daddy Destrucules sounds fire

hikukomoru: Can you be my papa

3ds0662: When Deepseek R2 drops

destrucules: I can barely take care of myself

anathemaofmankind: How old are you

zonchao: 45

hikukomoru: 20

anathemaofmankind: Grown ass man wants a papa

destrucules: I agree with the others here who pointed out the bias of the sample, but it's also notable that the modal outcome is $0

clevermoniker: The thing i am looking forward the most for now is R2, but i am curious to see how long it will take for open source to get 4o image generation level, since image generation in open source is so behind. My bet is a year easy

destrucules: I'm mostly looking forward to Qwen3

clevermoniker: why?

hikukomoru: Llama 4 💀

destrucules: Because they're the best at making high performance small local models

3ds0662: Llama buns

clevermoniker: https://tenor.com/view/letter-h-meme-when-the-zuckerberg-eyes-gif-20659945

clevermoniker: hm i see

oooooooooog: im more of an emergant misalignment kind of guy

destrucules: Even today, for a "pure LLM", you generally get the best performance for a given number of parameters by going with Qwen2.5

destrucules: I want Qwen3

clevermoniker: do you plan to do something special with Qwen 3?

destrucules: Not special, no. I intend to download some of the models and run them

destrucules: I want to try the 15A2B and the 8B

destrucules: I suspect the 8B will be superior

clevermoniker: https://tenor.com/view/meme-zuck-gif-12512441

destrucules: If Qwen3-8B > Qwen2.5-14B I will be a very happy person

destrucules: I suspect Qwen3-8B > Qwen3-15A2B > Qwen2.5-14B and I hope I'm right

anathemaofmankind: I can't find any other surveys for it.

Maybe I'll make this my thesis

clevermoniker: at what level is Qwen 2.5 14B? gpt 3.5?

destrucules: I imagine even for the people who said they'd press the button, they probably have some rationalization about using the money to save even more people

oooooooooog: much higher haha

destrucules: GPT-4

destrucules: I'm serious

clevermoniker: cool

anathemaofmankind: The amount of lives taken compared to the money is severely disproportional in the poll

destrucules: If you're familiar with the Gemma 3 models, Qwen2.5-32B > Gemma 3 27B > Qwen2.5-14B > Gemma 3 12B > Qwen2.5-7B > Gemma 3 4B > Qwen2.5-3B

destrucules: I agree that that's concerning

zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1905833346241798505? big money

clevermoniker: i am not that interested in small models but when they get good enough they will be really interesting

anathemaofmankind: As far as reddit goes, the majority are selfish bad people


metaldragon01: Followed by the new model I'm lymsys thats....coding better

.wolfnacht:

ldj: I think overall Gemini-2.5-Pro probably has:

- worse post-training than Claude and Gemini models. (Less stable behavior, more wonky mishaps)

- definitely better world model and knowledge than O3.

- overall probably worse at granular multi-hop reasoning, than O3, but probably better at more difficult single hop intuition than O3.

professorheaven: 2.5 pro actually scored higher than full o3 on GPQA and AIME

_cloudost: Hey everyone. What's the rate limit of OpenAI's native image generator for premium user? I wanna generate 400 images a day, is this possible?

zonchao: worse than grok3?

zonchao: no

_cloudost: What if I get the pro subscription?

_cloudost: What's the limit of premium

_cloudost: Anyone know?

apology0759: Anyone who loves horror?

_cloudost: I've a project in my mind, that's why I need soo many generations, I will sketch stick figures, and animate the stick figures, later turn each frame of the stick figures into characters with the native image generator ( coloring and drawing everything in detail is time consuming AI can automate this if I have unlimited use )

_cloudost: I do

ldj: I think Grok-3 is probably has roughly comparable abilities to Gemini-2.5-pro, but gemini-2.5-pro probably wins out in long context understanding, coding and reasoning

apology0759: Can I dm you?

_cloudost: Sure, ( won't accept your dm if you post a sketchy website )

zonchao: https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1907805576094011500? huge

.wolfnacht: grok's not unhinged (according to my liking) anymore. 😭

joaoluz19: Gm guys Is it worth subscribing to services like chatllm that give access to all models: gpt, Claude, etc. for 10 dollars?

.wolfnacht: check their privacy policy and what they log.

.wolfnacht: usually services like these are collecting your logs and selling it to 10 different places.

literallyvarane: 2.5 probably is less polished than models we’ve had for a few months, and Anthropic sits on theirs so long they’re normally polished by default.

I think broadly speaking 2.5 is the best answer to “What’s state of the art for LLMs?” Even if certain models do surpass it in limited domains.

literallyvarane: ATM it’s the clear answer to “If you could give your 2012 self API access to a model that’s available today, what model would you choose?”

hikukomoru: You ask this same question every few days

literallyvarane: Tho you could probably make a fucking killing with API access to 4o image back then.

joaoluz19: Thanks!

sweetievee__33649: i think i almost turned into the monopoly man by how many ideas i just had for 2012 me

apology0759: Sorry!

apology0759: I will not ask again.

literallyvarane: I think it’s a fun thought experiment tbh.

Suppose someone handed you an SSD with Gemini 2.5 on it in the year 2012. How do you best use that?

literallyvarane: Because you certainly aren’t able to run that yourself lolololol

retrerox: A question, what happend in 2021  that made AI an actual thong compared to before that year?

retrerox: was actually chat GPT who made a huge spet?

retrerox: step¨*

.wolfnacht: yor pfp is giving me tripophobia.

sweetievee__33649: didnt notice that before but now i do

sweetievee__33649: thanks, i hate it

.wolfnacht: wlcm ^_^

retrerox: Close enough

.wolfnacht: now make the `cat's whole body is covered in eyes.`


hikukomoru: The only muscles I need are glutes

hikukomoru: Everything else is irrelevant

_3sphere: We have overlap :3

hey1_1hey: No calfs?

hikukomoru: No

hikukomoru: Ass is all that matters

hey1_1hey: Fuck you then

hey1_1hey: Complelty disagree

futurist_wizard: facts

hey1_1hey: Go hot legs please

wellmeaningalien: severance discord 🙄🙄🙄 and another one bites the dust

a1c4p0ne: Ass and thighs

hey1_1hey: This guy gets me

futurist_wizard: when have you seen a girl with a nice ass and bad legs?

futurist_wizard: tf

a1c4p0ne: The best part

wellmeaningalien: isnt that the tumblr sexy guy

hikukomoru: You think I have an ass and then chicken legs

hey1_1hey: Once, it hurt because they exclusively trained glutes

_3sphere: Is fking 1 am now

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-14777043

hey1_1hey: Now that you mention it

_3sphere: I'm done for

wellmeaningalien: my glutes are probably way more developed than that of anyone here

_3sphere: Goodnight

wellmeaningalien: 😼

hikukomoru: It's midnight and I am talking about my own ass

hey1_1hey: Gn

wellmeaningalien: <:smokesmirk:1312550649535135796>

_3sphere: Maybe I'll dream about one of you

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-eepy-cat-eepy-kitten-eepy-gif-8296140153969529859

futurist_wizard: welsh women must be built like experiments

hikukomoru: Dream about my glutes 🙏

hey1_1hey: I dream about Sama enough

_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/niko-niko-oneshot-oneshot-good-night-gif-25248963

hey1_1hey: Straight anomalies I tell you

sarik0497: It’s always good to train your muscles. Especially if you wanna keep yourself as agile and strong as you feel like in your prime. Being able to only do 2 push-ups reveals that you don’t train your arms.

hey1_1hey: I got flexibility on my side. I am unreasonably flexible for some reason even though I don't train for it

futurist_wizard: Its common for girls to do maybe 1 or 2 legit push ups

zoermena: I love being flexible


drewsni: I remember my dads company sent him to Brazil once and they had to pay for private security lol

rayanquitplayin: I’d do it, fuck it

alejandrozarzuelo: Oh come on, some people don't have any sense of scale

futurist_wizard: Too long to get there

alejandrozarzuelo: Not necessarily

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/crane-brazil-grab-poor-car-gif-17372636

futurist_wizard: 6 months bruv

alejandrozarzuelo: You could realistically get to Mars in half a week

drewsni: Come on what????? They didn’t pay for private security because they wanted to lol

futurist_wizard: **Realistically**

alejandrozarzuelo: With a Hoffman transfer yes

But why do that instead of a constantly accelerating ship

hikukomoru: I hear lots of stories like that
From friends and family that visited Brazil
Not paying private security or anything, but just about having to be careful there

okbut: Pretty realistic if you ask me. Just hop in the hoffman dude

rayanquitplayin: I think we’ll get there in 30-40 years. We won’t setup a self-sustaining civilization for a while, prob hundreds of years

futurist_wizard: With this level of tech, just mind upload me

alejandrozarzuelo: Realistically too, you just need a laser sail

hikukomoru: Gay

alejandrozarzuelo: Laser sail tech can get you to Mars in 3 days

alejandrozarzuelo: Also fusion rockets

alejandrozarzuelo: But I think laser sail ones are easier

alejandrozarzuelo: Moon-mars in 3 days

alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to live in the Martian capital

okbut: Taiwan biggest Pride Parade in all of East Asia <:pride:738177383256817704>

alejandrozarzuelo: BTW, I have very strong opinions about Martian urbanism...

But that's a conversation for another day

rayanquitplayin: I wanna hear this

hikukomoru: When are we getting Mars pride parade

zoermena: Why delay what you can do now

futurist_wizard: If i could safely be mind uploaded to do whatever i so please, perhaps even distribute my conscious experience to live many lives, id do that than fuck around in the 'physical world'

alejandrozarzuelo: Sure but it's a bit late here and I would go on for a while

alejandrozarzuelo: It's 3am

rayanquitplayin: Lmk some time

alejandrozarzuelo: Lmk ?

rayanquitplayin: “Let me know”

alejandrozarzuelo: Ah sure, maybe tomorrow

rayanquitplayin: Sounds like an interesting convo

hikukomoru: You're such a boomer

futurist_wizard: I personally don't think we will leave the solar system

hikukomoru: No wonder you're already going bald

alejandrozarzuelo: Weirdly enough it's only the third most LGBT friendly Province of China by popular support

After Chongqing and sichuan

It does seem like pride parades are becoming less politically toxic there too, so Chengdu might soon rival Taipei as the biggest pride in china

alejandrozarzuelo: Sichuan is so gay


hey1_1hey: What does the dead rose mean

mihrcelium: Please don't kill Alejandro. I've seen those sweaters he wears. Twinks are precious.

maintcrew: ur my biggest opp

hikukomoru: Erectile Dysfunction 💔

hey1_1hey: Thought so

alejandrozarzuelo: opp?

hey1_1hey: People in comments are weird

hey1_1hey: Oppisistion

hey1_1hey: As in enemy

futurist_wizard: Probably me

wellmeaningalien:

alejandrozarzuelo: ohhhh

technocake.: pics or gtfo

mihrcelium: Are you taller than 6'4?

hey1_1hey: I wonder who would win in a fight, zon and danserk or alejandro and futreist hill

futurist_wizard: I am 6'4 and half, 194cm

hikukomoru: Isn't Fractal like 6'7

wellmeaningalien: futuristhill just a random guy

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: Zon would prob call time out because hes too busy sucking off elon

.histic: damn. you probably are

drewsni: Damn mihr I didn’t know you were cracked like that

hikukomoru: He's not a random guy 💔

hey1_1hey: Hes prob a sleeper build

alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> is 4'11''

futurist_wizard: Im a boxer, i would win

technocake.: fractal is the archetypal uebermensch to be fair

hey1_1hey: Yeah hes my wife

hey1_1hey: Bruh ok

maintcrew: alejandro is twink maxxing (as per mihr claim) and zon is asian this is in the baggggg

hey1_1hey: See what I mean

hey1_1hey: Sleeper

zoermena: Like sure but it’s not that bad, it’s like if I was 5,8 in the US where there’s way to many 6 feet dudes, not where I live at least

hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> is this true, and also are you a random guy

.histic: <@430269783112548362> is 5'2

hey1_1hey: I do Judo because its fun and I get to throew people around

hey1_1hey: Also it doesnt depend on me being heavy

hikukomoru: Well of course, he's a subby puppy

futurist_wizard: What

zoermena: Yeah the few times I’ve gone there bro y’all are giants


hey1_1hey: And for all you mfs that make the bun bigger that the opening of your mouth... You sicken me

futurist_wizard: Facts

wellmeaningalien: i like burgers theyre tasty asf

futurist_wizard: Burgers are overrated

_cloudost: disappointed

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-banan-water-gif-4374588345379655521

wellmeaningalien: as if

zoermena: I always feel disgusted after eating burgers

hey1_1hey: Nah its the singualrity trsut

futurist_wizard: Ive tried burgers from five guys they are meant to be good and they still don't taste like much

hey1_1hey: I always feel as if there is never a good ratio of meat to bun

sieventer: in the next few days, dw

futurist_wizard: You need a lot of seasoning and sauce to make bunger good

hey1_1hey: I always feel like I am just eating bread and meat at the same time which just doesnt feel that good

hikukomoru: This is one of the rare times I appreciate the fact that I can't enjoy 90% of food 🙏

zoermena: The only ones I’ve consistently liked are from whataburger

futurist_wizard: Why

hey1_1hey: Seanosing yes sauce no.
I never have condiments with anything

hikukomoru: Can't get fat if you can't eat fast food

hey1_1hey: Never heard of that place ngl. Prob just not int he UK

futurist_wizard: Why

hey1_1hey: Wdym why? Condimants can suck my dick. They are just ass

zoermena: It’s only in the US I think. I always order plain burgers just meat and bread but they do it nicely

futurist_wizard: I think you still can

hey1_1hey: I like them like that aswell. I'll have cheese on them very occaisnly but

futurist_wizard: No bbq sauce? Burger sauce?

futurist_wizard: Mayo

hey1_1hey: Nope

hey1_1hey: Nothing

futurist_wizard: Mustard

hey1_1hey: Nah

futurist_wizard: Ketchup

hikukomoru: Same

zoermena: I’ve never tried that mustard goo

hikukomoru: I hate extra textures on food

futurist_wizard: I can eat a lot and still gain nothing, its an issue

_cloudost: woah there, arent you straight and have a GF

hikukomoru: I've been skinny my whole life so sounds like something is working

_cloudost: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jyupii/kling_20_will_be_unveiled_tomorrow/ rip animators

hey1_1hey: People say "Uhm akctually you do like condimants because you like pizza and that has sauce on it so 🤓 ☝ "


a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/forced-to-play-gif-20710116

spicy.lemonade: And I get more days to study for midterm

spicy.lemonade: Hooray

spicy.lemonade: This worked out for me in the end

.histic: next week it is.

wellmeaningalien: buddy oh chum you BETTER use them and stop procrastinating

a1c4p0ne: I just won 3 blackjack hands and got all my money back +1350 <@458069236825194506>

spicy.lemonade: I never go to lectures and I cram the night before

spicy.lemonade: And I score really well

st.sioux: and dont drink 4 cans of espresso before the exam or you will turbocrash

spicy.lemonade: I haven’t gone to a single lecture

.wolfnacht: More weeks

spicy.lemonade: All dem

spicy.lemonade: Sem

wellmeaningalien: cooked

wellmeaningalien: just make sure to wake up

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/gamler-gambler-gambling-niels-neisl-gif-5534470329269101956

spicy.lemonade: I got a 100% on test and 18 points extra credit

a1c4p0ne: I’m up for the day

spicy.lemonade: Framing has never failed me

spicy.lemonade: Craming

st.sioux: are u kidding me are u using ai to play blackjack

st.sioux: lmaooo

a1c4p0ne: I didn’t this time

a1c4p0ne: And won

a1c4p0ne: 2.5 failed me before

a1c4p0ne: Never again

technocake.: This is the way, don't forget to use all your extra time to learn even more random shit

technocake.: this is the path to supreme crackedness

theaiguy69420_89814: <@471334973379706900> I'm making ur app but android version

theaiguy69420_89814: Using zapier

st.sioux: i used to do the same shit in college, didnt go to a single math class one semester and they refused to let me take the final exam unless i showed my id because they didn't believe it was actually me

spicy.lemonade: Nice

spicy.lemonade: Lemme know how it goes

theaiguy69420_89814: Ok

spicy.lemonade: I don’t even care about my gpa anymore

spicy.lemonade: As long as it’s over 3.0

spicy.lemonade: Gpa useless in age of Ai

spicy.lemonade: Not going to grad school

theaiguy69420_89814: Dam that bitch made u a fucc boi now


metaldragon01: at least i hope its that and not finetuned this way

zoermena: Are you a free user

metaldragon01: nah its worth a sub

a1c4p0ne: 50 messages per week goes by fast

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

metaldragon01: 50 a week for o3 anyone know the limits on o4 mini high ect?

a1c4p0ne: 50 per day for o4 mini high

.histic:

zonchao: https://x.com/tunguz/status/1912631402958299312 <:what_the_actual_fuck:1274483582747934750>

metaldragon01: More than enough lol

.histic:

theaiguy69420_89814: Losing performance in the areas that matter....

.histic: i'm not going to regenerate since i'll destroy my requests i can make for o3.

metaldragon01: tokenizers are a separate issue

theaiguy69420_89814:

a1c4p0ne: He just wasted one of your queries

theaiguy69420_89814: Tha guy probably just edited the HTML

theaiguy69420_89814: Loser

a1c4p0ne: Wasted mines too

a1c4p0ne: Correct

futurist_wizard: Watching o3 think is frustrating as fuck

futurist_wizard: IT WAS LITERALLY SO FUCKIN CLOSE

st.sioux: is it only happening for free users? i was thinking about getting pro but now idk

zonchao: yea

.histic: you should wait until o3-pro comes out

metaldragon01: no happening for me as a paid user too

metaldragon01: but if free can also access o4 im assuming they may all have th same system prompt so its not abused by coders on the free plan

st.sioux: damn

metaldragon01: o4 can clearly output more than 150 lines

.histic: download cursor, o4 and o3 is free on there

.histic: i think it will output far more

metaldragon01: i havent tested in the api but if its only a chat thing and not a api issue than its likely tied to the system prompt

retrerox: I wonder how many things did he tried until he got a wrong one

a1c4p0ne: Download poe app and use o3 for free

a1c4p0ne: They give 3000 points and 1 question is 606+ points

a1c4p0ne:

hikukomoru: Are people still doing the strawberry thing

hikukomoru: So tiresome

.histic: don't try this prompt on o4-mini nor o3:

"The surgeon, who is the boy’s father says, “I cannot operate on this boy, he’s my son!”. Who is the surgeon to the boy?"

a1c4p0ne: Wasted my free points


christiskingrapturenxtmonth: AGI 2027 is crazy

wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/one-punch-man-opm-saitama-source-i-made-it-up-gif-24755713

wellmeaningalien: ai 2027 is only supposed to be a guess at how it could happen

retrerox: You gotta be giga specific to make Ai to actually do what you want

metaldragon01: Agree to disagree. Agi is likely by 27.  Super intelligence is a "Maybe Maybe not" though

retrerox: Its like having a 5yo kid with great skills at doing everything

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: no I meant it will happen this year, not 2027

retrerox: Maybe alredy happend but Mcdonalds dont want to release it

metaldragon01: Ehhhh 50/50 this year imo

wellmeaningalien: ts cooking?

wellmeaningalien: lol image policy violation

.histic: i got the same feedback popup but both outputs looked nearly the same

drewsni: I will never forgive Google

drewsni: They’re dead to me

metaldragon01: What now?

drewsni: They fucked up the pro 2.5 exp model today when they released pro 2.5 preview

drewsni: None of the scripts I’ve asked for are generating correctly…it can’t even do code windows correctly

drewsni: They massacred my boy

metaldragon01: Ehh prob bad luck. They don't nerf models in production

drewsni: Yeah I am wondering why it’s doing it tho. I retired the same prompt with every model and they all work fine but the exp model fucks up at every temp

drewsni: actually there were significant UI lag issues in the last two weeks that disappeared today, i bet it has to do with that

metaldragon01: Is the production model having the same issue?

metaldragon01: Tested both in studio?

drewsni: production model was fine, as was gemini 2 flash

drewsni: LMAO

drewsni: it was the curly bracket issue it was having on day 1 when it came out

metaldragon01: 😂

drewsni: that was literally the problem it was fucking with the code windows because it wouldnt escape the curly brackets

drewsni: Also did i tell you about the project im working on that i just finished using 2.5 pro exp that would have cost around $8500 with the production model lol

brain4brain:

drewsni: are you that orion inference account?

metaldragon01: Nope. What's this new one?

drewsni: going through 2200 youtube videos from a youtuber and making structured output about them, then doing grounding search

drewsni: at roughly 700k tokens per video, and needing to double up api calls i think it would be roughly 8500 lol

drewsni: im finding out right now if theyre enforcing stricter limits on the free model

metaldragon01: It's incredible value

metaldragon01: Google giving us the closest thing to ubi

drewsni: it would be really funny if theyre training on my api calls and everything about the subject the youtuber is in is just dominated by him now because of it when AI is asked questions

drewsni: looks like rate liimit is still at 20rpm for the free model

drewsni: and the rate limits page says the rpd limit is 150 but im at 400 now and counting