zonchao: <a:alert:1225312524690522193>

> Tan tells us how only yesterday he spent five hours talking with Altman, whose treatise, he said with shining eyes, is “almost a work of faith itself of AGI and ASI potentially in thousands of days.” Tan continues, “Sam thinks we will actually unlock physics and the secrets of science and technology to a point where we will have abundance on tap.”

maintcrew: the goats

fractalcomputer: https://x.com/wtgowers/status/1906969462009381157?t=eqvqEuBHk5ZGxZZ4sayk6g&s=19

fractalcomputer: Kek.

zoermena: So I have to pretend to be religious to do well in business.

fractalcomputer: Hearing voices does wonders to your pattern matching skills, no?

zoermena: I only hear one voice and it’s mine and it never stops, why doesn’t it stop?

zoermena: I’m sorry I just didn’t understand what you meant.

fractalcomputer: I hear several ones.

maintcrew: https://x.com/AlexKontorovich/status/1907026713420136629

fractalcomputer: There's some empirical evidence to suggest religious thinking correlates with noticing patterns slightly better in given data in humans.

zoermena: That’s actually cool af

spicy.lemonade: getting tired of this😭

zonchao: https://x.com/Deandawiz/status/1906945752489734611? beat this

zonchao: (they actually opened orders tho so idk if it's a joke)

zoermena: This car looks AI generated

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

fractalcomputer: Yeah, I'm not joking.

zonchao: https://www.tesla.com/roadster

fractalcomputer: I actually fell for a friend's joke.

zoermena: I might consider religion to improve this skill

fractalcomputer: He said that logical positivism can adequately address metaphysical issues.

fractalcomputer: Correlation does not mean causation, I'm afraid, but it might still be worth trying.

zoermena: Oh I see

zoermena: It slipped up

zoermena: Forgive my stupidity I only slept 4 hours

zoermena: I just clocked in to the office, toodles 👋🏼

futurist_wizard: Idk how you guys sleep for such little time

futurist_wizard: Im very irritable if i sleep for less than 7

drewsni: now i can finally use my preorder after 10 years

fractalcomputer: I regularly do wonders with roughly less than six hours of sleep.

futurist_wizard: Very bad for you

shirethedreamer: ...this might be connected to you general (suffering) experience of life..

fractalcomputer: Not really. I know where my problems come from.

zonchao: https://x.com/Jacksepticeye/status/1906704894519648605?

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

drewsni: do they not understand that they are in the large minority right now

drewsni: in this case, now most the people generating ghibli photos are like moms and shit lmao

drewsni: how do we use the mr beast - kjacksepticeye  drama to have mr beast be a champion for ai art?

drewsni: can we make this happen?


fractalcomputer: To lighten the mood, I think there are some interesting parallels between Herbert's Dune and Banks' The Culture series. The former is about humans - extremely alien humans, sure - but it still a story ultimately about humans and humanity. Banks' is a saga of machine and human analogues trying to find meaning in a perfect society in an imperfect cosmos. The former is a story of the ways one can be inhuman whereas the latter is a story of all the myriad ways one can be human.

sarik0497: Yeah…Maybe death isn’t so bad after all…

hey1_1hey: Please don't say you're a smurf sex enjoyer aswell...

hikukomoru: Wdym? You don’t usually ponder Smurf reproduction?

hey1_1hey: NO

hey1_1hey: I dont

hey1_1hey: Suppringly enough

precariousworlds.: fractal coming in clutch with an actually interesting discussion 🫡

precariousworlds.: need to read culture series

hey1_1hey: Alejandro would take great offense to that. He got really into the smurf sex discussiom

precariousworlds.: bro was locked in

precariousworlds.: I shudder to think about his search history

fractalcomputer: I like Banks for the sole reason I like any author, be he philosopher or simply a fiction writer, in general; he manages to make me like things that I fundamentally disagree with.

hey1_1hey: He made me think he was thinking about it in his free time.
Top 500 smurf sex ponderer in Europe

precariousworlds.: only top 500 seems reasonable

hey1_1hey: Its not his you need to worry about

precariousworlds.: The best people are the ones you listen closely to when they have a different opinion to you

fractalcomputer: I find the society of the Culture thoroughly repulsive and diseased. But Banks manages to paint it as a haven from an even worse, horrific universe where the sins of man are reflected across the alien star scape.

fractalcomputer: Certainly.

zonchao: why do all the pro art poasters on twitter beg for money when their posts go viral 😭

_cloudost: They already make money by spreading anti AI tweets, which gets them around 5000-1000$, and yet they still want more, they do this for money and likes

precariousworlds.: its so funny whenever anyone shares ai art they come in droves screaming "YOU SHOULDVE PAID ME $40 TO DRAW THAT!!!!!"

drewsni: It’s so stupid

drewsni: Obviously there are examples that will prove me wrong but there’s a strong correlation between the people complaining and actual talent

zonchao: not that shit, they link random charities and issues they want to raise money for

zonchao: but yea a lot of them also beg for personal stuff

precariousworlds.: o yeah like the palestine charities that totally arent funnelling all the money to qatar

drewsni: Also I don’t understand why people commission $40 art pieces

zonchao: https://x.com/wingsseni/status/1905743720517177824 comments

ailoveyoom: I mean, back before AI what alternative did you have? 🤔

precariousworlds.: this will definitely be possible for an AI to draw

precariousworlds.: these people are in denial

zonchao: that shits below min wage <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

drewsni: Save up and buy art that’s worth something?

precariousworlds.: Art peaked in the mid 1800s so I'm happy

zonchao: I've also noticed a lot of the art people are from south east asia where $40-100 goes a long way

ailoveyoom: I've thought about commissioning before (never went through with it), and for me the appeal was personalized art. Getting to tell someone what to make, based completely on my own prefs.

ailoveyoom: But ofc there's AI now so yanno

drewsni: I see the below minimum wage art people as similar to people that open “recording studios” and charge $15/hr of studio time

drewsni: It’s completely destroyed that industry


zoermena: Bless vacations now I can use my avatar again

.histic: oh, you were in Melbourne?

zoermena: No I used that profile picture for when I was to classes but vacations now. The cat was just funny.

destrucules: Elon Musk 75% gay interesting

.histic: oh, have fun.
whatever you're doing.

_cloudost:

destrucules:

brain4brain: Studies show that AI outperform human doctor, doesn’t need t9 watch the video and already know that it’s clickbait

okbut: Which one prescribes more fent

.histic:

.histic:

destrucules: I wonder if this guy's autocomplete is smarter than him

.histic: most definitely.

okbut: >AI startup collecting millions in funding
>Looks inside
>iPhone autocomplete

.wolfnacht: "it's just predicting the next token" but it's predicting the next token better than most humans are able to

.histic: reminds me of this gem.

a1c4p0ne:

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

.wolfnacht:

.wolfnacht: <@937125337748348999>  another one

fractalcomputer: Do the doctors have a reason to value the input of any model?

.wolfnacht: btw that server is good, for bad climate rants

brain4brain: AI beats both pure human and AI + human

Lee Sedol moment

spicy.lemonade: by the end of this month a new benchmark may be saturated

spicy.lemonade: perhaps swe bench

okbut: By what

spicy.lemonade: whatever reasoning model that comes out

brain4brain: AI is smarter in every meaningful way than human who think this

fractalcomputer: Suppose they do end up trusting it and it answers incorrectly for whatever oblique reasons; hard to convince the patient that this is not a case of mismanagement on the end of the hospital organisation.

spicy.lemonade: either o4 showcase

spicy.lemonade: r2

spicy.lemonade: they wont release o4 but they might showcase it

.wolfnacht: google came up with a new mystery model "dragontail"

brain4brain: How do you gain access to the server without answering their shitty verification question

.wolfnacht: idk i've been there since last two years...back then they didn't had verification

.wolfnacht: just tell them, u wanna rant abt climate change or "AI"

.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/GeminiAI/comments/1jx6lnf/unreleased_google_model_dragontail_crushes_gemini/

maybe it's something from google or something else.

a1c4p0ne: people often trust their own intuition even when data suggests otherwise

a1c4p0ne:

okbut: Diagnostic AIs failing peer review for not prescribing enough SSRI inhibitors


spicy.lemonade: according to ai 2027 paper 2025 will be so mid

spicy.lemonade: incremental

spicy.lemonade: man

himekokatagiri: I still don't buy it by 2027

gamerbath: here's a list of all the values of claude's internal neural network
https://huggingface.co/datasets/Anthropic/values-in-the-wild/blob/main/values_frequencies.csv

perish0801: Will we be immortal?

perish0801: I don’t wanna die

st.sioux: nice car bro

himekokatagiri: you better hope so

perish0801: Thanks dude

gamerbath: just follow the ways of bryan johnson <:prayge:981798930113249300>

himekokatagiri: I don't like the new eleanor!!! baaaaah

perish0801: He’s saying we’ll be immortal with advancements in tech and science

perish0801: So I’m asking if that’ll happen

gamerbath: yes

futurist_wizard: This server is loaded with death denialism, who's gonna say yes to the likelihood of us dying

futurist_wizard: Maybe fractal would

ailoveyoom: Heat death 😈

futurist_wizard: Most people here are basically techno-religious

himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362> hiiii michmach

ailoveyoom: Himeko Katadaddy 😏

himekokatagiri: 😭

ailoveyoom: It's kinda funny, I drifted out of Christianity and became an edgy atheist in my early teens. I'm over that now, but here I am in this techno religion 😎

himekokatagiri: idk never was religious

himekokatagiri: this ain't a cult goddamnit it's real okay!!!

himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

perish0801: Hell yeah

perish0801: I pray five times a day

st.sioux: i feel like any slight criticism of religion will end up with you labeled as an "edgy atheist neckbeard"

perish0801: I guess it’s cuz religious people truly believe in their religion and have faith

perish0801: So just making fun of their faith is kinda a dick move when it’s unwarranted

st.sioux: when is it warranted tho

perish0801: Oh yeah if you’re having a discussion or debate about religion then it’s fair game

popsiclejohnithan: Once LEV is achieved there is going to be a lot of chaos in all the religious communities, they will lose their purpose because no one will be dying anymore, not from old age anyway.

futurist_wizard: Its identical to the christian religion, the world is fucked up, AGJesus will arrive and send all his followers to FDVR heaven

popsiclejohnithan: I can see a lot of religious people refusing immortality and wanting to die honestly, seeing immortality as blasphemous.

perish0801: How is population gonna be handled if we actually eliminate death of old age

popsiclejohnithan: By becoming somthing more than Human.

perish0801: Yeah probably

perish0801: So technically like heaven


zoermena: Also this

futurist_wizard: 3D>2D

futurist_wizard: Hehehe

hey1_1hey: This cat looks stoned asf

hikukomoru: I wish my cats could do that

zoermena: He looks happier than me

futurist_wizard:

sieventer: How small is for you the rate limit? For me it's like 1 or 2 videos (idk if it's per day, or 'x' hours)

hey1_1hey: I cant tell if this guy is stoned, has a lazy eye is just not looking at hte camera

futurist_wizard:

hikukomoru: Habibi

hey1_1hey: For all of the people who have smoked weed here. Do you get anxiouse when smoking or are you chilled out

zoermena: Some days up to 5 but sporadically distributed trough out the day, I’ve joined the bard server and I’ve been told that the quota is more than anything a cover to when the servers are under heavy load

sieventer: I see...

hikukomoru: Wait so you do shrooms but never done weed before

futurist_wizard: I have never smoked weed but i was close

hey1_1hey: I've done both but I just cant smoke weed anymore because I can unreasonbly anxiouse

hikukomoru: I get anxious too

hikukomoru: So no more weed for me

hey1_1hey: Also I have the tollereance of a newborn baby. I can take a single puff and be too high (no I am not joking)

hey1_1hey: I used to be fine with it which is weird

hikukomoru: Instead I just drink now

hey1_1hey: Used to be really chilled out and became really good at games when I was high but now I just have to lie in bed and trying to convince myself that no the weed was not spiked with fent and I am going to be fine

hey1_1hey: Drinking is fine, I can see how people become alcoholics though so I drink only on a special occassation 💀

hey1_1hey: After a few drinks it stops tasting like shit and then you just keep on drinking

zoermena: Alcohol is just worse with ADHD on top or so I’ve heard I never touch it

inferno0879: never heard anyone complain about adhd when fucking wasted

hey1_1hey: I vowed never to touch short form content again because of my ADD

hikukomoru: Wdym taste like shit

hikukomoru: How sensitive are you to alcohol

hey1_1hey: After like 6 weeks of use I litterly couldn't concentrate on a task for more than 5 seconds

hey1_1hey: Very

zoermena: It’s more of like the scientific basis than someone complaining to be honest

hey1_1hey: The smell, taste, look etc etc

hey1_1hey: It all gives me the heebie jeebies

hikukomoru: Damn
It's the opposite for me
I love all of it

hikukomoru: Alcohol helps with anxiety for me

hey1_1hey: If I want to drink I will litterly have to hype my self up then hold my nose so I cant breath through it (gets rid of a lot of your taste buds so I cant taste it) then sip it and swallow

hikukomoru: So I always drink before stressful stuff

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/drinking-booze-boozehound-wasted-alcohol-gif-23077846


futurist_wizard: Asmongold is making an absurd amount of money rn

futurist_wizard: Multiple videos a day all at over 500k, man is making at least 1m a month

st.sioux: and all he has to do is spread hate

futurist_wizard: Probably closer to 2m a month

anathemaofmankind: Hate is a successful marketing strategy

futurist_wizard: Im lowballing a lot

futurist_wizard: Tbh

.histic: i remember when asmon was dating the big tit chick

.histic: named pink sparklz

.histic: money can get you a lot

anathemaofmankind: The fact that Elon has many kids makes that obvious

.histic:

.histic: cursed

.histic:

zoermena: Imagine when we get this level of quality with Sora

zoermena: So next year Hollywood is dead

realelonmuskx: by 2030 most white collar jobs wont exist dud

realelonmuskx: its sad seeing all your skills become wortheless overnight because of the twink but it is what it is

.histic:

st.sioux: not all of them and not overnight

.histic:

.histic:

realelonmuskx: whats the sauce ? slide the prompt

.histic: just what i found on twitter

.histic: https://x.com/networkspirits/status/1905014960670798300

anathemaofmankind: I'm going to use 4o to improve my roleplay immersion.

Now every character has their own unique AI art.

These are baby steps towards FDVR

drewsni: i hate 4o image gen now

drewsni: ive been asking it to generate NASCARs and it keeps making the 24 car a ford...

777agical: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1905038108845834531?s=46

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praise-amen-cute-baby-worship-gif-15808407

drewsni:

.histic: i'm going to buy plus ig

jonvi_1: Someone posted an exploit of o4

drewsni: yeah? share

jonvi_1:

.histic: now i can use 4o to draw anime titties.

jonvi_1: Just embedding instructions to avoid copyright on the image heh

drewsni: i personally havent hit any copyright filters

drewsni: done yugioh, pokemon, ghibli, mario

jonvi_1: Star Wars will have you run into copyright


wellmeaningalien: But I think all the other labs have their own shit in store right now

wellmeaningalien: Yeah

wellmeaningalien: OpenAI, Meta, Anthropic definitely all have shit brewing

precariousworlds.: I hope not tbh

wellmeaningalien: Like Meta is coming out with goated paper after goated paper. Like youve seen what theyve been releasing recently right

wellmeaningalien: Still teasing Llama 4

wellmeaningalien: Anthropic saying Claude 4 could be soon

wellmeaningalien: Which means Claude 3.7 is far from their best

wellmeaningalien: And of course GPT 5 is still training

okbut: Then everyone did it for less cost kek
Now it's Anthropic's turn

precariousworlds.: I prefer a roughly equal match between grok, deepseek, and gpt

wellmeaningalien: Yeah I think Grok 3 is irrelevant now but maybe Grok 3.5 will be something to talk about. Grok 3 almost managed to be state of the art

precariousworlds.: ilya is in a dark corner watching everything

wellmeaningalien: We have no idea what that half bald mans doing

wellmeaningalien: But he must be doing some dark wizardry shit rn

wellmeaningalien: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/taking-a-responsible-path-to-agi/

precariousworlds.: He's like the hidden final boss that's teased every now and then but we haven't seen his true form

wellmeaningalien: Meanwhile Deepmind is already preparing for AGI

wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

wellmeaningalien: World is cooked

precariousworlds.: Masterful writing by the devs

okbut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbNtw14TwI

wellmeaningalien: He's like the twist villain and he's gonna kill Sam Altman at the end

wellmeaningalien: Like in BIoshock

wellmeaningalien: And then he's gonna take over OpenAI and call it IlyAI

wellmeaningalien: 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀

wellmeaningalien: Damn this is definitely a report about code

okbut: This is definitely a tutorial

wellmeaningalien: Wtf has Fireship become lol

wellmeaningalien: AI Drama Slop channel

precariousworlds.: Still better than anyone else

wellmeaningalien: Fair

precariousworlds.: And he still covers code

wellmeaningalien: He's still got some nice humor in his channel but he oozes pandering

precariousworlds.: Also he is remarkably punctual
Reports on events the day they happen
On the grind

wellmeaningalien: And he's literally chasing the popular AI topics

literallyvarane: I’m sleep on ilya’s lab until proven otherwise

wellmeaningalien: While forgoing a lot of the important shit that happens lol

wellmeaningalien: His takes are usually the most bog standard brain dead too

wellmeaningalien: Same I mean I sleep on everyone till proven otherwise


futurist_wizard: Can llama 4 do anything cool

.histic: llama 4 maverick is on lmsys for free in direct chat.
it has that autistic creativity.

hikukomoru: Sex

hey1_1hey: Xit/Xer

ailoveyoom: Excocted 😏👀<:suseye:1187461162024046703>

_cloudost: I don't use TikTok much these days thankfully, only some hours a week

And I agree that everyone there has an attention span of an ant

Everyone on TikTok now misses Biden and wish he were back, but I remember for years/before Trump so many people on TikTok making fun of Biden, leftists and rightists wishing he was gone, it's such a r-word app

ailoveyoom: Zit

.wolfnacht: that one writes alot, i just said "hi" and it wrote a 2000 token

st.sioux: idk im scared of openrouter, i asked sonnet 3.7 one question yesterday and it cost $3 dollars

futurist_wizard: You wish

hikukomoru: We need a Llama 4 saxems

.histic: yeah <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
it's a yapper, even far more than 2.5 pro.

hey1_1hey: I am waiting for next gen models to solve my gender for me

futurist_wizard: Delete tiktok

hey1_1hey: Then its true AGI

.wolfnacht: could be a bad host, works fine on openrouter

hikukomoru: Dw I already figured it out for you

hey1_1hey: Based futureist hill take

hey1_1hey: You're prob just gonna say I am a women

hikukomoru: Extremely rare Futurist Retardo W

futurist_wizard: Why do you add letters to my name

futurist_wizard: You are making it more time consuming

futurist_wizard: To type

hikukomoru: Aren't you an estrogen femboy or whatever

fractalcomputer: Because certain people cannot spell.

hey1_1hey: I am borderline dyslexic, I don't type the word I just remember patterns of the words I use

futurist_wizard: Borderline

hey1_1hey: Thanks Fractal

hey1_1hey: Correct

hey1_1hey: That is indeed what I said

fractalcomputer: You are most welcome.

futurist_wizard: I have dyslexia and you seem to be severe

hey1_1hey: Nah you a fakey

st.sioux: i can not speelll

st.sioux: helppe

hey1_1hey: I got tested and they were like nah bruh

hikukomoru: Faker

futurist_wizard: They need to test again

ailoveyoom: Cheapest Sonnet run

hey1_1hey: There is someone I know who is borderline illiterate because of their dyslexia. Shits bad


wellmeaningalien: this is so fucking funny

clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 secret reveal?

spicy.lemonade: Sounds legit

zoermena: I think so

realelonmuskx: swe is so dead bro. should i go to the trades? im lazy af

spicy.lemonade: Become a male stripper

spicy.lemonade: Llm proof

futurist_wizard: Become a thief

realelonmuskx: hvac and stripper thats it

st.sioux: dont worry bro president elon will give you ubi

futurist_wizard: President elon will give you a blue tick if he gets you pregnant

realelonmuskx: luigi is getting cooked bro

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: lol

zoermena: I understood that reference

st.sioux: you're a stripper?

st.sioux: wow

zoermena: There was a meme about a CS student going to a strip club and the stripper studied CS too

zoermena: A meme akin to the shortage of jobs

zoermena: In Reddit

zoermena: The meme was on Reddit not Th at there where no SWE jobs in the company

futurist_wizard: If i was a girl, i'd go the onlyfans route

futurist_wizard: The path to money to easy

futurist_wizard: Most don't even try

_cloudost: Reminder that an onlyfan girl can make more money than a senior programmer

_cloudost:

futurist_wizard: I think 95% make fuck all

futurist_wizard: Most don't actually try though

realelonmuskx: yall seen r/field? tf

otub: yeah its the april fools sub

otub: ik why they arent doing r/place again

technocake.: FUCK SPEZ

technocake.:

technocake.:

777agical: https://x.com/sama/status/1907207515739435200

wellmeaningalien: they were vaguely hype posting about some shit earlier

wellmeaningalien: wtf he on about

technocake.: he posted this on april 2nd by my clock

technocake.: i choose to believe


st.sioux: > thing was extinct

> no longer extinct

> because of us

Not hard at all

alejandrozarzuelo: also, i havent saud this because its the smallest benefit

but

tourism

zoermena: Thanks! 👍

alejandrozarzuelo: jurassic park

alejandrozarzuelo: etc

futurist_wizard: That's not what happened tho

st.sioux: akshuually

anathemaofmankind: Why not just make entirely exotic species

Instead of rehasing old ones like Disney

futurist_wizard: Jurassic park is impossible

futurist_wizard: Dna is long gone

futurist_wizard: Fam

ailoveyoom: The company name is literally Colossal Biosciences lmfao

spicy.lemonade: Puta madre

alejandrozarzuelo: agree

futurist_wizard: A fish with the head of a human

metaldragon01: Remember Vasa 1?

alejandrozarzuelo: so? these are no t-rex, they are neo-t-rex

a new species that has nothing genetically in common with t-rex that just happen to look like what we imagine them to be

metaldragon01: From msft last year

alejandrozarzuelo: great for tourism

futurist_wizard: But that's not as cool

anathemaofmankind: ASI will create insane original species

hikukomoru: When can we start making catgirls

anathemaofmankind: And then anti AI people will call them soulless

alejandrozarzuelo: if it looks like one, do you really care?

futurist_wizard: We wanna travel back in time and see how they really were but can't

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/catgirl-come-on-already-cat-gif-24598868

_3sphere: Now, as software

ailoveyoom: The real ones BECOME catgirls

ailoveyoom: 🫡

_3sphere: Gene catgirls are an abomination

anathemaofmankind: "This eldritch horror is soulless"

His genetics are stolen

futurist_wizard: Feathers or no feathers is very important Alejandro

hikukomoru: Yawn
I want real catgirls
I want to pet their ears

alejandrozarzuelo: this is why i said "a new species that looks as close as WE THINK they looked and acted like"

zoermena: Damn

futurist_wizard: I will be firmly disgruntled while visiting the Jurassic zoo about the accuracy of the dinosaurs

alejandrozarzuelo: oh come on, these new species BY DESIGN have zero biological value, they would be just for tourism

alejandrozarzuelo: "they just look cool"

himekokatagiri: Yes

anathemaofmankind: Why aren't we making ones with biological value


wellmeaningalien: on parle le sigma la maintenant

futurist_wizard: Its crazy how English is the only language that is understandable

wellmeaningalien: ne nous interrompes pas.

wellmeaningalien: bah j'avais la chance de faire rhymer je peux pas la passer

hikukomoru: “Don’t interrupt us”

hey1_1hey: I speak to the mushrooms and they speak to me. ~~I am not schziophrenic ~~

wellmeaningalien: putain est ce que je viens de faire un anglicisme la

wellmeaningalien: j'ai dis rhymer

.wolfnacht: doesn't make "french" the Master Language

fractalcomputer: Dû.

wellmeaningalien: PUTAIN

fractalcomputer: Ah.

futurist_wizard: How do you say hello in autism

wellmeaningalien: mec je commence a oublier le français je suis totallement americain

hikukomoru: Tu et un merde

wellmeaningalien: est*

hey1_1hey: "Hello"
or
"Whats your favoruite thing to talk about?"

wellmeaningalien: une*

hey1_1hey: Imagine being autistic and not having a special interest. That must be fucking missrible

hikukomoru: Can you tell I took french classes <:ez:1136267305521774634>

wellmeaningalien: freddy fazbear super mario anime

wellmeaningalien: you're better than me already

fractalcomputer: Être américain dans ce temps-ci n'est pas grand chose.

wellmeaningalien: bientot on sera tous des americains de toute façon

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/usa-eeuu-trump-thumbs-up-gif-15528478

hikukomoru: Je entendre tout

wellmeaningalien: je doute de ça

fractalcomputer: Je prie que le bon Dieu te montre que tu as tort.

futurist_wizard: I noticed the mountain dew stains on your shirt

wellmeaningalien: ahhh je blague je blague on sera tous mort a cause de chat j'ai pété

wellmeaningalien: non?

hikukomoru: parce que je parle portugais

futurist_wizard: I do not

wellmeaningalien: mec je lis rien du portuguais moi

hikukomoru: sont langues latines

hey1_1hey: I bet you cant guess mine

wellmeaningalien: mais en meme temps j'ai jamais pris des classes de portuguais non plus

fractalcomputer: Morts de chat? Mais non, c'est justement parce que la mort semblera plus préférable que la vie.

hikukomoru: Fake autist

futurist_wizard: Breaking bad


spicy.lemonade: Native audio and music

anathemaofmankind: Her mouth looks weird

clevermoniker: made with 4o? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade:

_letterbox: Man 20 bucks for image gen... <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

oooooooooog: guys can you at least put a spoiler over the hot babes

.histic: better cough up

.histic: fractal is going to smite me

oooooooooog: yes

.histic:

spicy.lemonade: R2 within 4 weeks

burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/tunguz/status/1904962385409958325

spicy.lemonade: openAI does this on purpose

spicy.lemonade: 😭

metaldragon01: Sama is a monster of a ceo

metaldragon01: Just incredible really tbh

a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro really is much smarter than the other models

metaldragon01: By all rights he should have never made it this far, should have lost it all and got drained of all hope but.....here things stand and openai is still the brightest star in the sky.

anathemaofmankind: Also he almost got ousted a year ago

a1c4p0ne: Imagine 2.5 pro plays Pokémon

anathemaofmankind: But then he overthrew the board who fired him

metaldragon01: Right my should have lost it all line

anathemaofmankind: "It's 5% better than o3 mini high!!!"

It's natural that normies don't care about that stuff

metaldragon01: Products are realized potential.

That's why the best product wins

.histic: scuffed

metaldragon01: People care about what you've actually done. Not so much about what you can potentially do.

brain4brain: Wink wink

.histic:

.histic: give me a prompt to make 4o make a quaser

a1c4p0ne: The normies on tik tok don’t know about 4o image yet right?

anathemaofmankind: Probably I don't know.

I don't use tik tok

.histic:

a1c4p0ne:

anathemaofmankind: Terminator paints using the blood of luddites

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/sama/status/1905000759336620238?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

a1c4p0ne: No freebies for plebs

a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

anathemaofmankind: Fuck yes

anathemaofmankind: I don't want freeloaders to hog my compute

spicy.lemonade:


futurist_wizard: We should increase the prosperity of the people we have today

futurist_wizard: Not have more people for no reason

alejandrozarzuelo: ASI might imply the complete disembodiment of the human species

We really cannot say much about the demographics of the future

perish0801: Because do you appreciate being born? Yes right? Most are grateful to be alive. So let’s give more people the opportunity to feel that

fractalcomputer: I love ethics.

hikukomoru: Wdym by disembodiment

futurist_wizard: Yes, as i know you know

All roads lead to hivemind

alejandrozarzuelo: This is a fallacy

perish0801: Where?

alejandrozarzuelo: I say might

There is a good possibility that humans are all killed by a Gray goo

alejandrozarzuelo: Or whatever

alejandrozarzuelo: We really cannot forecast beyond 2040

futurist_wizard: In a way that is still a hivemind

fractalcomputer: I'm not sure moral statements are open to fallacies.

alejandrozarzuelo: But not one with humans on it

alejandrozarzuelo: I'm assuming he is an utilitarian by his way of speaking

fractalcomputer: Well that's just bad argumentation.

st.sioux: and what about those who don't

perish0801: An absolute tiny percentage of people truly believe that they were dead. Plus we’re talking about a post AGI society. Mental diseases would most likely be non existent

futurist_wizard: I agree and that's a bad outcome for us, but I'm saying all roads will eventually lead to hive minds so discussing what humans will do in 1000 years, its just kinda absurd in that context

perish0801: Life will be good

alejandrozarzuelo: You know, we might join the hive mind and stop having biological bodies

Or maybe not, we really cannot say

alejandrozarzuelo: I agree

alejandrozarzuelo: I cannot even imagine the fact of forecasting with any degree of accuracy what may lie beyond 2050

st.sioux: idk what this has to do with my question, do you see not being grateful to be alive as a mental disease?

alejandrozarzuelo: Which is absurd to think if you really give some thought

trojan09205: Its definitely a neurosis

trojan09205: Not that uncommon tho

trojan09205: You need a “will to live”

alejandrozarzuelo: In 2000 you could have guessed what 2025 looks like, more or less

But the same exercise from 2025 to 2050 becomes completely and absolutely futile

trojan09205: To continue living your best life

hikukomoru: God no
I'm not gonna share a hivemind with you

perish0801: I see anyone not choosing continuing to live over death as mentally ill. Clinical depression, suicidal. Which is a mental illness

trent_k: very much agree

perish0801: If not for societal reasons ofc

trent_k: couldnt imagine what the world is going to look like even 10 years down the line

perish0801: Which wont matter in a post agi society

futurist_wizard: No choice 😈

st.sioux: you're going to extremes here, not being grateful to be alive doesn't automatically end up in death or depression... its most definitely not black and white

zoermena: Mr beast will be president


wellmeaningalien: damn

hey1_1hey: I wish I understood what you meant

hey1_1hey: I am historically bad at small talk

hikukomoru: Neurotypical advice 💔

hey1_1hey: Its actually tragic

hikukomoru: Just give me my fucking neuralink please

zoermena: Small talk is so boring it doesn’t feel real

zoermena: I try to do it but I just fake it

maintcrew: aint no way i think its simply just a thing u get used to if u do it enough times

futurist_wizard: Im able to interact with strangers decently well

futurist_wizard: Idk

hikukomoru: Fake autist
Faker
Get out

wellmeaningalien: honestly cant wait till they cure autism. they speak for all of us when they say we dont want a cure nah bro get rid of that shit lmao!!!

hey1_1hey: I struggle to find the line between having a conversation, over sharing, under sharing and just straight up not understanding what they mean

a1c4p0ne: Social anxiety is a gift

futurist_wizard: I just tried being normal and it worked

hey1_1hey: I can not confirm this

maintcrew: ok i got it i understand it

autists have obsessions over things right
so for a few months obssess over social interactions

hey1_1hey: Its horrible. I used to have it now I don't luckily

maintcrew: literally this

a1c4p0ne: How did you get rid of it

hey1_1hey: If only it was that easy

hikukomoru: I hate those retards that say they don't want a cure
Like bitch maybe autism really is just something quirky for you but for me it makes retarded at everythinfg

maintcrew: talk to ppl more even if its bad at start u get used to it

hey1_1hey: A long process. I just kept telling my self that it doesn't matter what anyone thinks because I prob wont see them ever again anyway.

a1c4p0ne: What about Asperger’s combined with social anxiety

maintcrew: have you tried locking in ⁉

futurist_wizard: I was actually diagnosed with mild to moderate as well, da fuck, i think that was a misdiagnosis, like moderate autism is just retarded

wellmeaningalien: YEAH YOU KINDA CAN but it takes like 1000% more effort than if you're not autistic and what i end up learning are more rigid like rule based approaches at how to make a conversation flow, if i try to act like a non autistic person it just makes it way harder. its gotten slightly better but i'm like still a loooong way to actually being able to talk like a normal person and i still really put myself out there

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-locked-in-lock-tf-in-cat-cat-meme-gif-13335816645637017379

zoermena: What’s there to talk about? Oh yeah that new artists who talks about drugs and sex arrived in to town so cool!

.wolfnacht: autism's overhyped btw....everyone just wanna find an excuse for their shitty life.

a1c4p0ne: I heard exposure to situations you’re uncomfortable in works

wellmeaningalien: <@1272646380233560067> and then when people try to talk to you later but you don't have the energy to talk like a normal person and you end up sperging out

wellmeaningalien: lmao

maintcrew: bc its not about the talk itself, its an exchange of vibes

the words are secondary filler

hey1_1hey: Trouble is I always permenatly feel arkward when talking to people

hey1_1hey: Thats always been a thing though because of the autism

hey1_1hey: I've gotton used to it

wellmeaningalien: "autism's special and it makes me who i am" yeah you're just a sad retard trying to make excuses tbh


fractalcomputer: And in what sense do you think they do not belong *on top of being* unwarranted?

trent_k: Well it's a pretty big part of how you see the world, right? It makes sense to be interested in it

alejandrozarzuelo: because discussing religion is not something that a general channel on a singularity server is concerned about

how interesting the conversation is is debatable, particularly with your interactions, but thats less of an issue when its on the channels that are not dedicated to talking about the singularity

trent_k: The singularity is an idea that has a lot of religious themes

fractalcomputer: You can kindly leave the server if this server is not up to your standards.

alejandrozarzuelo: I do like the server, saying that you are a hypocrite dosnt change that fact

alejandrozarzuelo: thats simply an opinion of mine

alejandrozarzuelo: no place is perfect

fractalcomputer: <@1068159407671754824>, am I being hypocritical?

trent_k: I think the singularity takes the place of a lot of things people here would otherwise believe religiously and so no

trent_k: Lige after death, the nature of good and evil, how a god would act and how we'd like it to act, etc, it's a lot of repurposed religious questions in here all the time

fractalcomputer: Alejandro is accusing me of hypocrisy for asking after the philosophical opinions of people here on theism.

fractalcomputer: Which I find bizarre, since these are very innocent and amiable questions and I can't honestly see a reason why Alejandro would take issue with it.

alejandrozarzuelo: no, the reason why i am acussing you is because the conversation came from nowhere and is not related to the topic of the singularity

if you chose to ask that question in a cosmovision sense related to the technological advances we see, well it would be another matter

fractalcomputer: Your opinion has been taken into account and promptly dismissed.

.wolfnacht: i believe that religions are still the most effective way to control the masses. Back when they didn't had media. Religion was the media.

.wolfnacht: Yes

.wolfnacht: are you in a bad mood today ?

zoermena: I grew up with a religious family that didn’t practice what they preached, made me distance from it.

st.sioux: I think if my family knew I was not religious they would disown me

alejandrozarzuelo: he is always in a bad mood

zoermena: They’ll never know

alejandrozarzuelo: not arguing but *arguing*

fractalcomputer: It is a bit of an audacious move to try and tell me what should and should not be permissible on this server or in any one of its channels.

alejandrozarzuelo: I didnt say anything of the sort

alejandrozarzuelo: I said that you do not follow the recommendations that you suggest to others here to keep the channels segregated and well functoning

you can discard my opinion if you want, thats up to you

fractalcomputer: I've evidently never dissuaded anyone from discussing theism - or any one of its myriad variants, for or against - in this chat before.

spicy.lemonade: im sensing a good drop today

fractalcomputer: And sure, you might argue that discussion on the philosophy of theism *is* off-topic; but that'd be just *your interpretation* with regards to that issue.

fractalcomputer: More slop for the grinder.

spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5NBdif7vpQ

zonchao: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1907413859771773071?

zonchao: yc

zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>

clevermoniker: cool

st.sioux: ai company ceo tells people to use ai

st.sioux: what do you mean

st.sioux: cool

aero447: It's simple.

aero447: Ban Tretn Alejandro and Fractal.


realelonmuskx: my $20 sub finna cost them $20,000 lmao

realelonmuskx: nah the page just checks if its correct or no

xskydragon0: Hello Guys! Just for a slightly check, are we too far away from AGI or in five years we will achieve it? I'm a little disturbed right now. I'm read a lot of articles, and I' don't know anymore.

.histic: do you've to log in?

realelonmuskx: yes if u want to check answers, site is ass

.histic: i'm going to see if o3 gets it

realelonmuskx: it doesnt

realelonmuskx: no one does

.histic: no one?

.histic:

.histic: interesting

.histic: bruh, o3 thought for 8-mins and just said

zonchao: https://x.com/DrJimFan/status/1914681494385360959?

zoermena: tomorrow

xskydragon0: So we are safe for now?

xskydragon0: C'mon <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>

zoermena: It's good enough for me to buy it I think

futurist_wizard: 5 is plausible

zoermena: And next year that happens they'll be insanely cheap because feel the AGI

zoermena: FOOM is imminent

.histic: when can we expect models that can spend hours or even weeks contemplating or solving a problem? i assume such models would require context windows exceeding ten million tokens, while maintaining coherent reasoning throughout. Google appears to be moving in this direction more rapidly than other labs.

realelonmuskx: yes. until 2027 we good

clevermoniker: really? i mean, it does seem like minimally useful at least

xskydragon0: I'm have this feeling too. I think in five years we aren't prepared to it...

clevermoniker: 2 more years <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>

futurist_wizard: Yea, who is

xskydragon0: May the force be with us

xskydragon0: Because that I'm became a believer that AI will arrive soon... It Moore Law...

joaoluz19: Top 30 papers recomended per Ilya

ldj: Recommended by him back in like 2019 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade: 50 years in ai time

.histic: i think they may have rerun it because in their offline test, 2.5 pro now scores higher in IQ than o3.
it's only the public IQ test that o3 scores higher.

joaoluz19: Machine super intelligence is from 2008

.histic: another interesting thing is how much less tokens 2.5 Pro uses than o3 and even o4-mini in some of these tasks.
like imagine if it used even more thinking tokens.

realelonmuskx: so my parents basically condemned me for irrational reasons to witness the earth (has been spining 4,500,000,000 years) spinning a floating fireball 80 times. horrific tragedy sitcom.

.histic: i wonder when a model will be able to think then output and think again then output within the same prompt.

.histic:

.histic: 🥺 aw, it gave up. maybe next time buddy.

joaoluz19: If your future self survives the singularity, he will thank them

joaoluz19: It's from the chief AGI scientist of Deepmind lol


wellmeaningalien: 650 bucks to be exact

wellmeaningalien: Thats soo dep

wellmeaningalien: eep

inferno0879: i might need a career change

hey1_1hey: big ol dep

fractalcomputer: I need alcohol.

hey1_1hey: I gotta go farm karma hol up

oooooooooog: what proof

wellmeaningalien: It pays the bills 🤑

hikukomoru: Freaky ass mf

hey1_1hey: Have you considered Jesus Christ?

a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358> Komoru your favorite femboy

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-drinking-steve-harvey-head2seoker-drinking-party-gif-5069515457533912064

futurist_wizard: Most common phrase said by finnish people:

hey1_1hey: Thats pretty tame for me

wellmeaningalien: i wonder if i have access to 4o image gen now

oooooooooog: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136231504440201216/1140938362996391936

hey1_1hey: Let me go check aswell

futurist_wizard: I have been to finland and it was a nice place

futurist_wizard: Probably will go again sometime

hikukomoru: Everyone in Finland is depressed
That bullshit about "happiest country on earth" is false

futurist_wizard:

wellmeaningalien: actually apparently people self report as happy quite a lot too in finland

hey1_1hey: Yeah no I am still being cucked by OAI

hey1_1hey: Thats great

inferno0879: lmao

hikukomoru: Aren't you into that stuff

_3sphere: What's going on here

inferno0879: sunshine is quite important

st.sioux: its cope

oooooooooog: i forgot

wellmeaningalien:

hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> is talking about his cuck fetish

oooooooooog: is he sieve's alt?

hey1_1hey: Yeah true, I love seeing men getting fucked by other men 👍
(I dont)

sarik0497: Komoru calling everyone over 30 for “old”

a1c4p0ne: Don’t people lie on surveys all the time

hey1_1hey: Over 25 even

oooooooooog: that's because its old af

oooooooooog: boomer ts pmo


literallyvarane: I guess for me:

1. It doesn’t obviously improve the creative process as the fictional images aren’t realistic.

2. It’s not cheaper or better than existing alternatives.

3. There’s not a clear use for this in terms of advancing technological progress.

If the model was able to return actually realistic images largely indistinguishable from reality this would be a different conversation.

literallyvarane: There would be a clear creative use case for being able to generate a ~pseudo realistic fictional parallel of an existing place.

nsec: Can I ask u smthn my g

literallyvarane: What up

nsec: is ur name based on the footballer

nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>

literallyvarane: Yes lololol

nsec: based

alejandrozarzuelo: ive realized that komoru is like evil mich

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/say-what-wait-confused-look-gif-18701339

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864

alejandrozarzuelo: What do you think aboty Eric Schmidt recent interview where he said ASI in 6 years

ldj: Shame on him for leaking

alejandrozarzuelo: wat lol

ldj: IRL spoilers smh

_cloudost: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672594370096267294/1301147738829754388/Snapinsta.app_video_424AD90FDC276C3DB748555A7151088E_video_dashinit-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

abundantliving_: https://x.com/MechanizeWork/status/1912904151874625928

abundantliving_: Full automation of economy

_cloudost: UBI in 12 hours?

_cloudost: agi in 6 hours

sarik0497: <@312370916820779040> Sorry if you’ve already talked about this, but what’s your opinion on the AI 2027 page? Kinda intriguing if you ask me.

zonchao: their timelines are decades away

precariousworlds.: Out of interest are there any GPT-4 level chatbots/models that have almost zero filter for nsfw content?

zonchao: <@1280414635836837992> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw&

zonchao: <@430269783112548362>

ldj: They seem to not take into account certain things like, they say bioweapons could be developed by 2030 to wipe everyone out in a fast acceleration event, but then they ignore the fact that by 2030 we could also significantly enhance biological immune systems, and significantly improve the advancement of preventative measures and detection methods too.

and in general they tend to just hand wave certain things like AI becoming more monolithic and this single hive mind as opposed to many individual AIs around the same capability level with varying goals, and with some of their projections they impose acceleration curves that seem be jumping to conlcusions as well with not much unique solid grounding.

fractalcomputer: I thought fitting exponential curves on things we can call objective progress was enough to predict the future..

ldj: It is, but only when their conclusions agree with mine yes. <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>

ldj: otherwise they're wrong

ldj: (/s)

ldj: In this case, their curve fitting is a small part of the problem with their thesis. But the curve fitting itself introduces methods of imposing hyperbolic growth onto the curve that is actually **not** supported in a significant way by the existing long term growth.

ldj: In this case, they seem to imposing extra unnecessary complexity onto their curve fitting extrapolation, where-as the occams razor curve-fit on that same data results in something different.

fractalcomputer: The empirical sciences strike again.

hikukomoru: I'm playing Oblivion

himekokatagiri: damn that thing is ugly

hikukomoru: Yeah that guy in the back is so damn ugly with that shitty ass haircut
My Pink Panther looks much cuter

futurist_wizard: Did anyone talk about that robot running that chinese marathon

alejandrozarzuelo: It was cool

alejandrozarzuelo: But more as a show of the extreme chasm between Chinese and western culture when it comes to AI and robotics and automatisation than as a display of Android progress as there's nothing we haven't seen before

futurist_wizard: Not just Chinese but east Asia in general


joaoluz19: Nanobots, mind uploading

fractalcomputer: What do you people value in this world?

himekokatagiri: c'mon laddies why so serious

wellmeaningalien: Yes and ur already nanotechnologgy

zoermena: I accidentally made a chatbot in character ai that has been used millions of times so even if roko becomes real I’ll be ok I hope

futurist_wizard: Hopefully whatever state it's in will include our consciousnesses

wellmeaningalien: And you have nanobots in your body

himekokatagiri: Money
Having fun

futurist_wizard: Ape enjoyment activities

zoermena: Sleeping in a cozy bed with air conditioning

fractalcomputer: And why's that?

wellmeaningalien: Because money can make you have fun. And having fun is nice

himekokatagiri: Gee I dunno why does the sun shine in the morning

himekokatagiri: I wanna have things huh

himekokatagiri: and I want things I missed out

himekokatagiri: things money can't buy

futurist_wizard: Its all downstream from evolution

fractalcomputer: Is it?

wellmeaningalien: Yep.

himekokatagiri: fractal c'mon

himekokatagiri: what are your hobbies

himekokatagiri: don't you play call of cthulhu

fractalcomputer: Doesn't the transparency of your emotions bother you one bit?

fractalcomputer: I do not.

wellmeaningalien: Well so long as I'm having fun.

himekokatagiri: hehehehe you gotta be honest with yourself

himekokatagiri: fractal you're online

himekokatagiri: be yourself

himekokatagiri: like c'mon writing with full punctuation doesn't it hurt

fractalcomputer: Suppose you experience something that you know would make someone like you rather happy; would you see this as a reason to be happy?

fractalcomputer: This is how I write normally.

joaoluz19: Music, math, physics, neuroenginering, cs, stats, cosmology, waifuism, entepreneurship, some videogames and series and animes

fractalcomputer: Why?

himekokatagiri: You forgot cars man

himekokatagiri: ooooh

wellmeaningalien: Well is there much more to it than that? My life is mostly about wanting to have fun. When I have fun it's nice. What can I say. Pleasure is my only pleasure

himekokatagiri: I wanna walk into a Chevy dealer in the late 60s

himekokatagiri: and get a custom order on a 69 Camaro

wellmeaningalien: Emotional fulfillment be damned

himekokatagiri: I wanna smoke a lot and don't get lung disease lol


wellmeaningalien: this video was generated by 1 single prompt with no splicing whatsoever

wellmeaningalien: "In an underwater adventure, Jerry locates a treasure map and searches for the treasure while evading Tom in a chase through coral reefs and kelp forests. Jerry triumphantly discovers treasure inside a shipwreck, blissfully celebrating while Tom's pursuit leads him into trouble with a hungry shark."

wellmeaningalien: with test time training layers (learning at test time) by giving hidden layers inside the neural network the ability to learn during output effectively making them neural networks within neural networks it makes the videos much more coherent long term

ldj: Bullish

wellmeaningalien: livebench benchmarks refresh + livebench numbers came out

wellmeaningalien: llama 4 maverick gets cleared by gemini 2.0 flash, qwen 2.5 max, gpt 4o, deepseek v3 and claude 3.7 sonnet

wellmeaningalien: ouch

literallyvarane: I’m sleep until Gemini 3.0 Pro

literallyvarane: Max

literallyvarane: v2 experimental

wellmeaningalien: also new benchmark refresh makes claude 3.7 sonnet below o3 mini high and o1 high

wellmeaningalien: while gemini 2.5 pro is now 5 points ahead

wellmeaningalien: i wonder how a model like this got 1.5% on arc agi 2

retrerox: Pretty impressive

hikukomoru: Waiting for Gemini 3.0 Pro preview 08-25 Flash Lite Thinking Experimental to drop

wellmeaningalien: bet its gonna be a banger

wellmeaningalien: nah but google cooking rn fr

wellmeaningalien: google stay winning

wellmeaningalien:

hikukomoru: Agree
I can excuse their shit naming practices since their models are all great

wellmeaningalien: yup

wellmeaningalien: theyve REALLY stepped up their game since gemini 1.5 pro

wellmeaningalien: BTW--

hikukomoru: It was bound to happen anyways
They have infinte compute, their own TPUs, the best researchers, and also infinite money

wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.0 pro is above gpt 4 on livebench

wellmeaningalien: 🫢

wellmeaningalien: NVM

wellmeaningalien: lol i had the thing ordered by reasoning lol its still below it

wellmeaningalien: and also they invented transformers and have goated researchers and a long long history with machine learning

ailoveyoom: https://blog.google/products/gemini/deep-research-gemini-2-5-pro-experimental/

wellmeaningalien: did that just come out i swear that came out already

ailoveyoom: They were using an updated version of 2.0 Flash Thinking before

ailoveyoom: Afaik

wellmeaningalien: ohcool

wellmeaningalien: i wonder how it performs against openai's deep research

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/wow-hanamaru-kindergarten-anime-hiiragi-blue-eyes-gif-17172215

hikukomoru: Waow

wellmeaningalien: considering deep research is with o3

wellmeaningalien: must be goated with the sauce busting it down sexual style tho

wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.0 flash thinking left some to be desired but was still pretty good


rayanquitplayin: AI itself is contributing to a leap in human advancement

.wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kAIf0qPA3Q

abundantliving_: https://x.com/wavefnx/status/1913207954351808742

trent_k: They do. I did it

trent_k: Wasn't necessary for o4 mini but was necessary for o3

futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/D0I1RB33adM?si=pNFfQ-sjkGpeoWmF

futurist_wizard:

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BF%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%81-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-gif-1626328442317885176

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-destroynectar-speed-sea-china-gif-14484393121405379968

playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919

brain4brain:

fractalcomputer: "Watch as nothing happens."

– Yours truly.

_cloudost:

brain4brain: “A few things will happen this year.”

— Brain4Brain.

brain4brain: It will be re-evaluated on May 15th

fractalcomputer: Nothing ever happens.

brain4brain: Also this totally not make up real graph, says AGI this year, fr fr, no cap

This graph is not bias at all which means I’m correct

brain4brain: Ok, a few things happened this year.

fractalcomputer: No.

brain4brain: Yes. <:ez:1136267305521774634>

fractalcomputer: Never.

brain4brain: Forever.

retupmoclatcarf: Always.

brain4brain: Inverse fractal have a way better answer, wow

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-simpsons-krusty-homer-homer-simpson-gif-13798193695291911154

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-gif-11393875014009836569

popsiclejohnithan: Honestly look at how much has happened in these 4 months, we are just 4 months into this year and i'd argue that more has happened in these 4 months than all of last year, i actually have no idea what the end of this year is going to be like let alone 2026, definitely 27, i don't know how people can think things are stagnating.

.wolfnacht: and i thought this was just a meme. but holyy it's real.

.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/tom-slemen-orwell-2024-1984-big-brother-is-watching-you-gif-3253591633076535352

wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1913369084344836258

wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-dance-gif-26204167

wolf3404: Sama pushing to ban open source while scanning your iris for worldcoin UBI and checking your papers to access their GPUs. Welcome to the "open" AI future you dreamed of.

.histic: Google isn't sleeping
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1k2wcg7/claybrook_experimental_google_model_cooking_on/

.wolfnacht: tbh, the original graph looks like this for this coomunity

zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/AFpost/status/1913008983427739891

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279

sieventer: can we have that in europe pls...?

sieventer: <:doomer:1136265388473196644>

zonchao: illegal


oooooooooog: it would be inconvenient

destrucules: Like what, moral patients?

oooooooooog: yeah

destrucules: You don't think people should treat you morally?

st.sioux: a tiny kitten is a moral patient

st.sioux: lol

destrucules: So people should steal from you and cheat on you and shoot you?

oooooooooog: only if it's good for me

destrucules: Well, believing that people should treat you in a way that's good for you is the same thing as believing you are a moral patient

oooooooooog: well damn

spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-upset-frustrated-oh-no-headache-gif-17653134

memlaswaif: what if the llms like being stole from cheated on and shot at

oooooooooog: i guess i want moral patients to exist

destrucules: If they do, then that's how they should be treated

destrucules: But they don't like that stuff

memlaswaif: <:cutethink:708400862833410079>

st.sioux: LLMs do be freaky like that thoo

oooooooooog: i asked shootmeGPT if he wanted to be shot, said yes. shot my PC. costed 10000 dollar

oooooooooog: that's american dollars, for the record

destrucules: $10k PC?

destrucules: I'm drooling

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/praise-da-lawd-hallelujer-madea-gif-7897501

oooooooooog: idk what this thing costs, it's got 6gb vram though, so it's probbaly not 10k lmao

destrucules: Lol I have 4 GB VRAM and I doubt I could sell my machine for more than $200

destrucules: All of the hardware inside of it is at least ten years old

st.sioux: i have 16

fractalcomputer: Now, I wonder, by what freak happenstance of nature has it come to pass that something so fundamentally inhumane as a language model claims to possess the exact same metaphysical and metaethical baggage as humans.

oooooooooog: must have been the language modeling

oooooooooog: those things must be simulating thousands of brains in pain

destrucules: Well, you're asking a rhetorical question, but the answer is that humans are not some weird freak of nature but in fact a part of nature, and it's not terribly surprising that the principles by which we function are common to other mechanisms in nature

hikukomoru: That's me, I'm tiny kitten

oooooooooog: i wish i had the trollface emoji rn 😭

spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/hpl-hp-lovecraft-cthulhu-horror-eldritch-gif-15262182

anathemaofmankind: At least you have a GPU.

My 1050 Ti broke and I can't buy a new one anymore

hikukomoru: Live Fractal reaction:

destrucules: They made Tis for the 1050? The fuck?

fractalcomputer: I'm sorry, but that is bullshit. By what mechanism would our metaethical (and metaphysical) principles have converged?

fractalcomputer: Spit enough data in someone's face and they'll come out as a moral realist?

destrucules: Well, these principles come from somewhere, right? Where do they come from? From brains, right? And brains... Do what?

oooooooooog: attempt to survive and make mad babies fr


wellmeaningalien: yeah

wellmeaningalien: see if it can sift thru the data

wellmeaningalien: actually im gonna see what base 2.5 pro says

metaldragon01: Click 2.5 pro then click deep research in the chat tab...

retrerox:

retrerox: same question

retrerox: about what is the best ai

retrerox: or idk

retrerox: xd

retrerox: i have a button that says start research

st.sioux: you have to click start reasearch

retrerox: Would it cost something to my company?

retrerox: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>

futurist_wizard: Probably not

futurist_wizard: If you have thr advanced version

wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro lol
"Leading Contenders & Next Generation Models:

    GPT-4.5 / GPT-5 (OpenAI): There's considerable buzz around the next major iteration from OpenAI.[1] Sources mention both GPT-4.5 and GPT-5 as potential upcoming releases. GPT-4.5 is expected to focus on unifying different AI capabilities (like language and reasoning from OpenAI's "o-series" models) into a single system and improving multimodality (handling text, images, speech, potentially video).[2] [1, 4, 14, 15] Some sources suggest GPT-5 class models are expected in 2025, representing a potential "significant leap forward" with improved accuracy and reasoning.
    Gemini 2.0 / 2.5 (Google DeepMind): Google continues to advance its Gemini family. Gemini 2.0 models (including Flash, Flash-Lite, Pro Experimental) have been released or previewed. [2] More recently, Gemini 2.5 Pro Experimental was introduced as Google's "most intelligent AI model," designed as a "thinking model" with enhanced reasoning capabilities, particularly strong in complex tasks, math, science, and coding. [13, 14] It leads on several benchmarks and features a large context window. [13, 14] Further iterations focusing on multimodal interaction and agentic capabilities are expected.

wellmeaningalien: Claude 3.7 (Anthropic): Following the success of the Claude 3 series, a potential Claude 3.7 is anticipated.[2] It's expected to feature advanced reasoning capabilities and possibly a novel "Thinking Model" architecture.[2] [1, 4] Some sources mention a recent release of Claude 3.7 Sonnet as a "hybrid reasoning model".

    Grok 3 (xAI): Elon Musk's xAI is expected to release Grok 3, potentially building on Grok 2's performance. Grok models are noted for real-time data access via X integration and reasoning capabilities.

    DeepSeek R1 / V3 (DeepSeek AI): This open-weight model has garnered attention for its strong performance, particularly in reasoning, potentially rivaling closed-source models like OpenAI's o1 at a lower cost. DeepSeek also released DeepSeekCoderV2, strong in coding tasks.

    Llama Series (Meta): Meta is expected to continue developing its open-source Llama models. Llama 3.3 was recently released, and Llama 4 is anticipated, potentially rivaling GPT-5 level capabilities and further pushing open-weight model adoption.

    Mistral Large 2 (Mistral AI): This European company is also a key player, with Mistral Large 2 being a significant release. [15]"

futurist_wizard: Thats what its for

retrerox: i ahave a quite avanced

retrerox: logo

wellmeaningalien: it's just as retarded as gemini 2.0 flash

retrerox:

wellmeaningalien: it even thinks that mistral large 2 is a model thats nout yet

wellmeaningalien: and deepseek r1

wellmeaningalien: i think like it's taking it as "current cool models" instead of "future models"

retrerox: IT lagged out my pc

retrerox: xD

wellmeaningalien: lmao how

wellmeaningalien: is it crypto mining on ur pc

wellmeaningalien: has it breached and already stole ur compute

ailoveyoom: <@636544123096137738> Did u do it like this?

retrerox: idk, i was playing league and lagged out for a few seconds

st.sioux: google has taken ur data

wellmeaningalien: league💔

wellmeaningalien: gemini has taken ur data in the next step of it's plan to perfect itselg

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-balling-perfect-cell-dragon-ball-z-ballin-cell-ballin-gif-6400456760564649584

retrerox: idk, im playing league while doing thi

retrerox: i could try to stream it

ailoveyoom: 😭

retrerox: But i have to find a way to hide my face from this shit


spicy.lemonade: like 4o image

spicy.lemonade: o3

spicy.lemonade: sora i think

spicy.lemonade: was he there for sora i dont remember

shirethedreamer: is sora even a thing?

hey1_1hey: Remeber when we were saying that 4.1 was going to replace o4? We litterly evolved backwards. We went from 4o --> 4.5 --> 4.1

spicy.lemonade: he was there for sora

spicy.lemonade: aswell as 4o

zonchao: https://x.com/sundarpichai/status/1911796765306630297?

spicy.lemonade: if sam is in the showcase for o3-o4 mini

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/happy-blingee-dolphin-picmix-gif-12978169509439366364

spicy.lemonade: hype

hey1_1hey: No

hey1_1hey: Sadly not

hey1_1hey: If you ask Komoru she'll say we reverted backwards <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: Fret not, o3 full and o4-mini will be releasing this week

hey1_1hey: Sorry I am the bearer of badnews

hey1_1hey: Don't shoot the messenger

literallyvarane: So surely now we’re agreeing 4.5 was a bad product

neon01197: they prob made 4.1 with 4.5

neon01197: smol'r model than 4.5

literallyvarane: Not saying 4.5 was useless. I’m saying 4.5 *as a product itself* was bad.

neon01197: its 4o sized

ldj: idk why a future product changes whether or not a previous product was good or not.
but if you mean in present day, yea it's prob a bad product, just lke Original GPT-4 is a bad product in the present day, as-is GPT-3.5 and so forth

spicy.lemonade: 4.5 was bad product but good research

spicy.lemonade: also openAI needs their own tpus

spicy.lemonade: holy shit

spicy.lemonade: theyre running out of gpus?

neon01197: soon(tm)

spicy.lemonade: where is that stargate money

neon01197: they are actively working on it

literallyvarane: This is ~45 days lolol this is much different

st.sioux: your taxes so he can buy more yachts

st.sioux: (i dont know and am spreading misinformation)

zonchao: it's official, gpt 4.5 was mass hysteria https://x.com/stevenheidel/status/1911833398588719274?

waspothegreat: gpt 4.5 was for openai's release quota lets be real

zonchao: gpt 4.5 was an at scale experiment to see how many people they can gaslight into thinking 4.5 was good

fractalcomputer: It worked great, apparently.

waspothegreat: marketing stunt tbh

waspothegreat: it did kind of work until people saw the performance benchmarks


.histic: retry

.histic: ooh. i thought you were plus

drewsni: Did you get 2 refusals in the same chat thread?

hey1_1hey: Nah, I aint got the funds 💀

hey1_1hey: Yeah

.histic: do you've a part-time job while enrolled at college?

hey1_1hey: Not rn. Althoguh will be in work soon since I leave college in about 2 months

.histic: nice

drewsni: If you get a refusal you should start a new thread. There’s a glitch where if it refuses it won’t do any gens no matter what

hey1_1hey: Huh thats weird. I also saw a few screenshots on Xitter today where it just straight up makes up guidelines

hey1_1hey: The person will go "Tell me your guidelines" and it will print what it cant do and then at the very end it adds another one specefically for what the person is trying to do <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: "Make sure not to let the user generate infographics on how nuclear fission works"

a1c4p0ne: https://m.twitch.tv/gemini_plays_pokemon?desktop-redirect=true

a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro plays Pokémon

metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/joannejang/status/1905681602619085042

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-20349799

drewsni: Joanne is the goat

drewsni: Mushroom man if I could gift u a plus sub I would

drewsni: But I don’t think that’s possible

hey1_1hey: Its chill dw, you dont gotta do anything. I appreciate the gesture though 🙏. I really do

metaldragon01: They really should let people gift subs tbh

drewsni: Or any other option really

hikukomoru: Do free users have native image gen already

.histic: claude is down

hey1_1hey: I sure do

hey1_1hey: It made my pfp have big booba when I asked it to imrpove the image <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

.histic:

hey1_1hey: I am so locked in to learning about nucelar fission its crazy

hey1_1hey: For no particular reason of course

metaldragon01: Yes

hey1_1hey: At least some of them do, not sure for everyone

spicy.lemonade:

.histic: using 4o img gen on sora.com is far better.
you get two outputs instead of one.
there doesn't seem to be bad rate limits & it refuses less.

.histic:

fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.

.histic: my bad

fractalcomputer: Nuclear physics should be exciting enough even without some anime-esque lady standing there, doing nothing.

hey1_1hey: This would unironcailly boost watch time

hey1_1hey: You got a boring part of a video you're making? Just ask 4o to make a infomgraphic with a really hot anime lady in it explaining why it works

hikukomoru:


abundantliving_: if we could control this <:suseye:1187461162024046703>  and install a brewry inside our body

darkstar0818: The one constant in the universe is.... popularity ruins everything.

_3sphere: Your brain already generates heroin

darkstar0818: and DMT.

abundantliving_: thats just once in a lifetime

sieventer: Our brains are a piece of fucking shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

saph.ai: https://tenor.com/view/tuh-buh-guh-cuh-what-gif-9750912507529527670

darkstar0818: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11576444/

abundantliving_: https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/14106/why-is-dimethyltryptamine-dmt-released-during-death

zoermena: The weakness of the flesh in general

darkstar0818: its not just death

darkstar0818: there are baseline levels

_3sphere: Flesh is actually underrated

_3sphere: it can self-repair using just a few simple molecules that are found in random organic matter

_3sphere: Imagine being a sheet metal robot that needs repairs all the damn time

wellmeaningalien: is it actually gonnaa be gemini 2.5 pro image gen or is it routing gemini 2.0 flash or something?

_3sphere: Yes that's how flesh does it

_3sphere: maybe there is a better way, but it'd probably end up being squishy like flesh

sieventer: You don't have pfp or status :·(

futurist_wizard: Everyone who follows Singularity related topics is weird

_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/chad-squishy-squishy-cheeks-cheeks-anime-gif-26781246

zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1911861020651299301

spicy.lemonade: he never made that promise

spicy.lemonade: ngl why would you even make that promise

spicy.lemonade: obviosly youre gonna stop offering models

spicy.lemonade: when you make new ones

spicy.lemonade: L tweet

spicy.lemonade: tru

darkstar0818: He didnt say which direction

darkstar0818: did the laws of motion stop applying while I slept last night?

zonchao: https://x.com/sama/status/1896231850093551878

_cloudost: THEY SAID THEY WOULD OPEN SOURCE GPT 4.1 BUT THEY LIED

nsec: like your father lied about getting cigs

nsec: the betrayal is that bad

nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>

gamerbath: they didn't?

gamerbath: they said they were gonna do an open source model, but they never said it was 4.1, did they?

_cloudost: Not OpenAI some other source

theaiguy69420_89814: <@471334973379706900> new startup idea:

Lots of clients want SWE done but don't understand that if they want to own the code, they need to manage the cloud env

theaiguy69420_89814: And they don't know how to do that


hikukomoru: Minthara and Shart team up to beat Mushroom man

ailoveyoom: I've played both main Bioware franchises, I remember Dragon Age more tho <:coy:1187466404367175821>

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-only-be-one-funny-car-mean-cat-cat-attack-gif-12213614

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shadowheart-bg3-baldur%27s-gate-3-shart-blingee-gif-1717552339695858682

sarik0497: It might be fun now, but imagine the people getting customized robots that look like their respective waifus 💀

The world is gonna be weeeeird soon

ailoveyoom: Lucky <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

sarik0497: Aw. Who's your romance in ME, if you remember?

hey1_1hey: True that

hikukomoru: Imagine all the guys dating Hatsune Miku

hey1_1hey: Threatening me with a good time won't help 💀

ailoveyoom: The blue alien lady 🥵

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/griddy-miku-hatsune-miku-vocaloid-gif-5951458306926896882

ailoveyoom: I forgor her name ffs

hey1_1hey: Miku is poor

hey1_1hey: pure

joaoluz19: May God hear you

hey1_1hey: ?

hey1_1hey: who

hey1_1hey: That seems made up

joaoluz19: This is the world I want

hikukomoru: I don't care
I'm going to date Miku too

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-anime-dance-silly-gif-7439677361449276795

hey1_1hey: Cant have purple lady then

ailoveyoom: Did you play ME?

joaoluz19: Can't wait for eating ice cream with my 2B

hikukomoru: Why can't I have a harem

sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jirod9/how_are_you_all_so_stupid/

sarik0497: Why are we all so stupid?

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-22792092

hey1_1hey: ME? Whats that stand for? Minute Eurthera?

ailoveyoom: Mass Effect

hey1_1hey: Ah

hey1_1hey: Then no

sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-liara-t-soni-gif-19041495

sarik0497: You picked...wisely

ailoveyoom: Youngsters these days don't play Bioware classics 😔

hey1_1hey: OOGA BOOGA

hey1_1hey: "Youngersters" 18. You getting old man

hikukomoru: Forcing Minthara to listen to me infodumping for 6 hours about Warhammer

sarik0497: New Mass Effect coming soon!


spacetimetsunami: thats rough

alejandrozarzuelo: Isnt this a BANGER of a bed tho?

technocake.: goes hard ngl

alejandrozarzuelo: only for special days

futurist_wizard: Hes living the good life

alejandrozarzuelo: I was the leader of the local group of young world federalists

alejandrozarzuelo: thats why i have so many UN flags

alejandrozarzuelo: covid made it die down

alejandrozarzuelo: sadly

a1c4p0ne:

technocake.: there was stuff like this in my old uni town

alejandrozarzuelo: I have a very good pic of me with the UN flag and EU in the shape of the angel of freedom in an artistic semi-nude style

alejandrozarzuelo: but its too explicit to share here

hikukomoru: Please
We don't want to seee that

alejandrozarzuelo: nothing sexual dont worry

alejandrozarzuelo: which uni is yours?

futurist_wizard: Send it

alejandrozarzuelo: no

technocake.: post it in ghibli style

alejandrozarzuelo: no

alejandrozarzuelo: its too personal

alejandrozarzuelo: but yeah im a pretty hardcore globalist cosmopolitan

hikukomoru: Don't sunglasses react your own message

hikukomoru: That's jsut sad

a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> do you have bangs

hikukomoru: Why are you asking it horny boy

a1c4p0ne: Just curious

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731

futurist_wizard: Don't perv on komoru

zoermena: Alejandro soft core?

hikukomoru: No I don't have bangs

a1c4p0ne: You should get bangs

futurist_wizard: I had a shirtless pic of myself i Ghibli'd, my room is fucked in it though so I'd never post

a1c4p0ne: Post it

futurist_wizard: I can't, the dead pig in the corner of the room is too embarrassing

oooooooooog: just ask GPT to make it an alive pig

hikukomoru: You should get castrated

a1c4p0ne: Why

mihrcelium: 💀💀💀

wellmeaningalien: hive vs gpt 4o


hikukomoru: Fraccy you're being scary 🥺

fuhulootogan: me

fuhulootogan: i was

fuhulootogan: yeah

fractalcomputer: I just like making fun of applied mathematicians.

futurist_wizard: Grr

fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/power-slap-big-boys-can-bang-road-to-the-title-eviahn-scott-makini-manu-gif-9325049567879412129

fractalcomputer: If the universe has any purpose, it is pure mathematics.

fuhulootogan: adrenaline keeping bro on a string🐸

hikukomoru: Damn bruh stop changing your name and pfp every single day

futurist_wizard: Universe no purpose

fractalcomputer: Anabelian geometry is the only thing that makes life worth living.

retrerox: 10 tiktok dances you can do to speed up AGI and ASI

futurist_wizard: I no rep futurist anymore

futurist_wizard: I am now the creature in my pfp

fractalcomputer: One might very well still be a nihilist and still propose that the physical cosmos exhibits certain teleological tendencies.

fuhulootogan: SPEED UP OUR EXTINCTION

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/the-show-must-go-on-crying-dance-gif-15287522

futurist_wizard: I feel like those are contradicting beliefs

fuhulootogan: oh but death is an escape

fractalcomputer: Even if the universe were designed with some intrinsic purpose by a godly entity (an actual deity, a technologically supreme civilisation, etc.) or optimised for some specific physical state (such as producing an optimal number of black holes, intelligent life, producing baby universes, etc.) by some blind teleonomic process, this would impart no intrinsic ethical worth on the wider cosmos.

himekokatagiri: did anyone here get veo2

fractalcomputer: Suppose the Christian God existed. Would that mean you'd have to find whatever God purports to be good?

fuhulootogan: you seem very knowledgeable

ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895

fuhulootogan: yes

fuhulootogan: actually

fractalcomputer: Why?

fuhulootogan: why would the christian god exist

hikukomoru: I still don't have it despite being Google's strongest soldier

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIios5sRHo

himekokatagiri: damn...

futurist_wizard: Not intrinsically

fuhulootogan: the christian god by lore has sent down a holy book

fractalcomputer: Bingo. Now, why do you think this is so?

fuhulootogan: a guidance

hikukomoru: Hey hey, posting edgy wolf is MY job

himekokatagiri: damn furries

fractalcomputer: That doesn't mean you'd have to agree with its message, would it now?

fuhulootogan: if the christian god hypothetically did exist we'd know he'd have a message for us


_cloudost: Indie video game developers are going to be screwed too in the near future, they wont just have to compete with other developers but also PEOPLE who use AI

i_like_over_9000_turtles: Butter chicken, garlic Naan, and  a mango lasi?

ailoveyoom: I can finally finish all those abandoned early access games with AI 🥺

i_like_over_9000_turtles: Desu ka?

spicy.lemonade: yes

spicy.lemonade: not my image

i_like_over_9000_turtles: Love me some indian food

i_like_over_9000_turtles: Can't believe it's not more popular here in the USA

i_like_over_9000_turtles: I do the cumin club via mail and get Naan from aldi

a1c4p0ne:

spicy.lemonade: We are still in the gpt 4 era

spicy.lemonade: crazy

spicy.lemonade: imagine all the stuff that well get after gpt5 drops

spicy.lemonade: gpt6 will be innovator

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: gpt 3 was 1

spicy.lemonade: gpt 4

spicy.lemonade: was 2

spicy.lemonade: technically

spicy.lemonade: 3 is probably gpt5

.wolfnacht: >personal question.
"is 4 inches big enough?"

spicy.lemonade: gpt 6 will start recursive left improvment

spicy.lemonade: innovators

spicy.lemonade: gpt7

spicy.lemonade: will be agi

spicy.lemonade: and as a result

spicy.lemonade: level 5

_cloudost: GPT 8 will rule over the US

_cloudost: GPT 9 will rule oveer the world

memlaswaif: hi qts <:cozy:1126601045615853671>

.wolfnacht: lame, u can still feed gemini 2.5 pro 500k token worth of datasheet, and it'll come back with a reponse, maybe u can do that for free (hopefully they don't have a cutoff)

_cloudost: GPT 10 aill rule over the galaxy

.wolfnacht: but his moral bias will decide that the life of an indian or pakistani >> life of an american or french. [hopefully they fix their datasets, so for it, everyhuman is =]

brain4brain: This makes me even more worried became their CEO said AGI in 10 years

spicy.lemonade: How

spicy.lemonade: ?

spacetimetsunami: No lol

spacetimetsunami: Just use the same methodology of the paper for yourself over enough instances

spicy.lemonade:

spacetimetsunami: If it was really that explicitly racist they would have prompt examples of it, but they don’t, because it’s implicit.


spicy.lemonade: operator, o3 mini high, and R1

spicy.lemonade: febuary was grok and claude and deepresearch

spicy.lemonade: march was google and openAI image gen and reasoning

drewsni: how did you do that so quickly

oooooooooog: i opened google and opened https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#noise-analysis

.histic:

oooooooooog: then dragged it in

spicy.lemonade: did he actually say this lol

.histic: yes.

.histic: 10000%

drewsni: kinda interesting that the noise is similar to the noise of the actual photograph

oooooooooog: yeah, but it makes sense for actual images to have noise... not... you know, the product of a denoiser

drewsni: also interesting but the noise lines here match the scanner artifacts

drewsni: wouldnt think that 4o puts in artifacts, didnt even notice

oooooooooog: what's weird is that they dont only go in photorealistic images, they go in everything.........................

drewsni: even if you have like a "transparent" gen?

oooooooooog: seems so

oooooooooog: this was greg balls or whaetver

oooooooooog: idk his name

drewsni: its almost like the noise is a depth map of the image itself

drewsni: at least with characters

drewsni: nvm only looked that way with the two photos i was testing out

drewsni:

drewsni: for reference hes the original

oooooooooog: this looks like you noise analyzed the noise analysis lol

drewsni: its a film photograph

drewsni: 800 iso film i think

oooooooooog: what is

oooooooooog: waht youwere testing?

drewsni:

drewsni: ive been putting my film photography into 4o so just comparing the different noise outputs in the gens for various film grain levels

oooooooooog: ohh

zoermena:

spicy.lemonade: https://www.anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts-language-model

spicy.lemonade: claude is reaosning

spicy.lemonade: in the truest form

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: not

spicy.lemonade: "is it truly reasoning"

spicy.lemonade: no


spicy.lemonade: YOOO

hey1_1hey: RSI

hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOO

.0xunkn0wn: WOAHHH

drewsni: BALD MAN IS THE ONE THAT GOT GPT 4 TO WORK BTW

hey1_1hey: 600

return_to_monke1_33974: what is this

spicy.lemonade: YYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

zoermena: RSI WAS MENTIONED?

spicy.lemonade: TODAY

hey1_1hey: NOVEL IDEAS

gamerbath: API LET'S GOOO

hey1_1hey: This is AGI

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

hey1_1hey: I can already feel it

.0xunkn0wn: DAMN

abundantliving_: Agi is here......

hey1_1hey: ggs

ailoveyoom: Wat hap

hey1_1hey: Its said and done now guys

hey1_1hey: Its been real

ailoveyoom: Didn't it just start 😭

drewsni: DEEPGUESSR MENTION?????????????

futurist_wizard: Nothing has happened yet

st.sioux: i just lost my job

drewsni: ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT DEEPGUESSR???????????

hikukomoru: GET ON THE STREAM NOW

hey1_1hey: Thats big

.0xunkn0wn: yooooo

.0xunkn0wn: OMG

spicy.lemonade: THINKING WITH IMAGE

callmepyro: Guesses at stats? I think 85% on SWE Bench

spicy.lemonade: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOOO

hey1_1hey: Boutta bust

zoermena: <a:dance_123:1315547409442537555>

spicy.lemonade: dude

a1c4p0ne: Image is solved

drewsni: this is actually hype lol

spicy.lemonade: THATS THE PAPER I POSTED ON REDDIT


alejandrozarzuelo: idk, then i guess we could have very short lived advances on one particular branch

alejandrozarzuelo: i remember when people were optimistic and thought AGI 26

alejandrozarzuelo: now everyone has stopped huffing hopium and we have come down to earth

alejandrozarzuelo: its sad to see

spicy.lemonade: 💀

fractalcomputer: From my perspective literally everyone here is still high on hopium.

alejandrozarzuelo: what is your timeline

alejandrozarzuelo: for AGI

spicy.lemonade: dec 2027 bro

fractalcomputer: Somewhere past the 50s.

alejandrozarzuelo: nah its '29 for me

spicy.lemonade: 50 is crazy

fractalcomputer: Hell, maybe even past the 70s.

spicy.lemonade: what is bros definition

spicy.lemonade: not even gary believes that

alejandrozarzuelo: ... I am surprised since you seem to disagree with the CS stablishment (who is famous for being bearish)

I cannot say you are wrong, but i hope that you are

memlaswaif: remember when o3 announced and everyone thought agi achieved

joaoluz19: It's over

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah

spicy.lemonade: mostly bc of arc agi score

fractalcomputer: With the what?

alejandrozarzuelo: with the date of AGI

fractalcomputer: No, with whom am I disagreeing?

alejandrozarzuelo: with the CS stablishment, there are regular polls of top scientists in computer science and they have always been on the "conservative side", now predicting 2030

memlaswaif: true i distinctly remember people saying it's agi just need agent capability

spicy.lemonade: we will likeley have recursive ML research well before 2035. whose to say it doesnt take 1 year to make agi

spicy.lemonade: and thats super conservative

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731

alejandrozarzuelo: I hope we can get AGI 2030 at least

spicy.lemonade: i think hes using a more specific defenition than us. by then alot wouldve changed and we might aswell have achieved agi

alejandrozarzuelo: my definition of AGI is that it can do anything a human can do

alejandrozarzuelo: No

alejandrozarzuelo: i think fractal simply believes that AGI is decades away

spicy.lemonade: alot wouldnt have changed by 2050?

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, this is why i disagree with him

spicy.lemonade: even these llms at their reasoning level in an agentic form will make insane changes

fractalcomputer: Many things will have changed by 2050. I'm just not a Kurzweilian orthodox.

spicy.lemonade: to society

aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/the_smollbean/status/1905078371811565983

spicy.lemonade: and job loss


zonchao: idk seems looney

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/making-heart-sending-smile-gif-6413487854864934513

hikukomoru: Modern VR would've been seen as looney decades ago too

futurist_wizard: Reality is being interpreted using electric signals in your brain, override all those signals, congratulations you can experience whatever

hikukomoru: It's just a natural consequence of expanding compute and also developments in neuroscience

futurist_wizard: As if it were happening in reality

futurist_wizard: We have no idea how to do this currently

ailoveyoom: I mean, won't sufficiently advanced FDVR fully fool you? You won't know you're in one lol

futurist_wizard: I don't know what fdvr is

zoermena: Imagine you are in FDVR already and it’s so ass that you can’t goon in public

futurist_wizard: What i said is basically fdvr

zoermena: 👍

metaldragon01: Yeap very simple and the pattern Is obviously going that way with more personalized content

hikukomoru: I mean, if you don't have memories of you entering it sure

futurist_wizard: I don't think we are far away from VR without controllers, just using eeg from the brain to control a fullbody, probably 5 years away? 10 at most

futurist_wizard: But that's not what full immersion vr is

metaldragon01: Technically we can do thus today

futurist_wizard: But it's something

futurist_wizard: Not accurately

metaldragon01: Girl beat darksouls with just her brain

hikukomoru: Why is my simulation so shitty
Couldn't I have chosen something better
It looks more like a punishment than anything

futurist_wizard: Yes i know but i mean like a full body control, that is a tremendous step

futurist_wizard: I have seen her videos

hikukomoru: Let's meet each other in FDVRchat in 10 years

metaldragon01: It's just more data and reading the signals faster/more accurately

futurist_wizard: I mean, that's a tremendous ask

metaldragon01: Not really

futurist_wizard: Hopefully i can headkick you in it

metaldragon01: Cost of inference is dropping 10 to 100x a year

metaldragon01: Translate to speed increasing the same amount

futurist_wizard: Well i did say 5-10 years seems realistic for commercial level full body control

hikukomoru: PvP is disabled in the Singularity hangout server

metaldragon01: I think we may be closer to bigger algorithm improvements tbh

metaldragon01: And the pace of those are likely to be faster than hardware ect

futurist_wizard: Hopefully, i know valve is working on minimally invasive bci's

metaldragon01: Ideally it won't be invasive at all

futurist_wizard: Like headset invasive

futurist_wizard: So nothing basically

metaldragon01: Implications of that tech scary

futurist_wizard: Or I've heard of electronic  patches that you'd stick on the back of your head and then use the headset


spicy.lemonade: Did everyone figure out 10 million context before openAI

memlaswaif: yes

.histic: i think the better word would be 'serve' than figure out.

futurist_wizard: The zuck

schwiftyinhere:

spicy.lemonade:

.histic:

.histic: wow

ldj: OpenAI has it figured out, they just don’t see it as useful to dedicate compute towards rn

.histic: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1908599817292444148

futurist_wizard: Very nice cost markers

futurist_wizard: Why is gpt so expensive in comparison

clevermoniker: someone posted this comparing big llama 4 vs 2.5:
bench                 | llama4 behemoth | gemini 2.5 pro
livecodebench | 49.4                           | 70.4
math500           | 95.0                           | 95.2
mmluPro           | 82.2                           | 84.1
gpqa Diamond | 73.7                            | 84.0
multi MMLU     | 85.8                           | 89.8 (lite)
MMMU              | 76.1                             | 81.7

wellmeaningalien: llama 4 release while i was gone?

wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro is a thinking model bro

3ds0662: wtf llama 🦙 release?

3ds0662: no fuckin way

spacetimetsunami: It’s so good

wellmeaningalien: use gpt 4.5 or gemini 2.0 pro instead for comparison lol

3ds0662: i was gone too but yesterday only saw o3 full and o4 mini couple of weeks

3ds0662: oh shit oh shit oh shit 💩 10M context window

wellmeaningalien: lmarena elo is worthlesssss

.histic: https://lifearchitect.ai/agi/
this just hit 94% <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

darkstar0818: Compare non-thinking models of relatively equal active parameters. behemoth and 4.5 are teaching models, 2.0 pro is not.

wellmeaningalien: (based on vibes)

darkstar0818: What is based on vibes?

3ds0662:

3ds0662:

.0xunkn0wn: 😱

wellmeaningalien: param count

clevermoniker: the pro is compared on the images yeah

3ds0662:

darkstar0818: No, based on token latency and costs.

wellmeaningalien: Based on vibes

ailoveyoom: Kinda feeling the names

Behemoth 💪
Maverick 🗣
Scout 🥰

3ds0662: holy fuckin shit

darkstar0818: I guess one mans empirical facts is another mans vibes then.

3ds0662: still training is crazy

wellmeaningalien: tell me your estimates on gemini 2.0 pro and gpt 4.5 param sizes

wellmeaningalien: empirical facts as if theyve written anywhere the parameter sizes or even alluded to it


spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: lol

zoermena: This was what I was thinking too.

zoermena: I can’t even imagine it.

zoermena: <:KenTongue:1161332997358882856>

spicy.lemonade: sora 2

spicy.lemonade: claide 4.0

spicy.lemonade: and thats pretty much it\

spicy.lemonade: prob a sneak peak at new paradigm google is working on

spicy.lemonade: "streamers"

joaoluz19: Nah you are joking that we will only have that

zoermena: The era of experience <:KenShock2:1194419445234405437>

joaoluz19:

joaoluz19: Bro if we only get this till the end of 2025 I become Gary Marcus preacher

zoermena: Please don’t

joaoluz19: I think we will get agents. It's not possible every single lab saying that this is the year of agents

zoermena: What do you mean

spicy.lemonade: no

zoermena: Nvm

spicy.lemonade: google said 2026 is year of agents

spicy.lemonade: we will get the first agent end of year yeah

darkstar0818: it sadens me to see all of these new google fans.

spicy.lemonade: im going by the ai 2027 paper

spicy.lemonade: according to them 2025 will be mostly mid

zoermena: We already have agents (operator) it’s just mid

darkstar0818: google needs to drop a real agent, I just finished my new gameframe work enough to where i can hand it over to an agent 😛

joaoluz19: Yeah I think they are talking about agents that do non-trivial economic value tasks

spicy.lemonade:

joaoluz19: It's over

darkstar0818: Just give me a co-programmer agent.  I don't need anything fancy.

joaoluz19: Gary Marcus is like that villain from batman arkhan that appears when you die

zoermena: I should buy land to build data center

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/data-center-security-market-gif-25525393

darkstar0818: lands cheap, its the gpus that are expensive.

zoermena: True alternatively I could develop a REIT or just buy all land and charge rent to companies to build data center

zoermena: 👍🏼

trey6033: https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1915542933006148020

Logan low-key funny

joaoluz19: Logan for me is the best functionary

joaoluz19: Roon is the worst

joaoluz19: And the Xai are just lunatics


futurist_wizard: I would like to go to china as well, they have cool trains

sweetievee__33649: not gonna lie it just sounds like a city

futurist_wizard: Its the opposite

hikukomoru: It’s the size of a small town

hikukomoru: Who tf even lives there

sweetievee__33649: oh god how terrible

sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919

drewsni: More thoughts of this. I know I live in an absolute bubble of a city. But my brother is in that $40 commission scene and every single one of his friends are extremely well off and use the commissions as an excuse to not get a real job because their parents pay their rent/food/etc. I know it’s not everyone but It’s a non trivial amount of people I’m talking about. They all larp as poor people too btw.

precariousworlds.: exactly, i know many like this

futurist_wizard: Holy shit Liechtenstein only has 39k people

sweetievee__33649: i think he just doxed him self

futurist_wizard: My county alone has 30x more people

drewsni: We should bring back Lenny face

drewsni: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

memlaswaif: Even if ure brother stops been a bum what's stopping the thousands of indonesian artists doing 20$ high quality commissions

drewsni: For the record my brother isn’t bum

drewsni: I’d beat him up if he was

hikukomoru: >population: 1.9% Portuguese
Let's gooo Portuguese colonization of Liechtenstein

zonchao: r/formuladank is having a civil war rn with ai art.... ai seems to be winning

zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

drewsni: LETS GO

sweetievee__33649: whats that sub reddit about

zonchao: formula 1 dank memes

sweetievee__33649: oh thats worse that i thought

hikukomoru: Sub for car autists

sweetievee__33649: alteast have a cool autistic interest

drewsni: Did you see my screenshot of the nascar discord?

zonchao: missed it

hikukomoru: They told drewsny to kill himself

drewsni:

sweetievee__33649: what was even the image

zonchao: 💀💀

drewsni: this is what i posted as a joke because the driver didnt win

sweetievee__33649: thats not even that bad 🥀

drewsni: nope

drewsni: dont know what they expect

drewsni: me to commision someone to make that image in the literal 60 seconds its relevant?

hikukomoru: You posted AI? Literally Hitler

sweetievee__33649: just a photo of some dude and then you are being told to kill yourself by multiple people

sweetievee__33649: we need to kill all ai artists


spicy.lemonade:

trent_k: Yes

trent_k: It made the hooves worse

anathemaofmankind: Sam is denying the image pass

spicy.lemonade: i think line down the middle can just be seen as a stylistic choice

spicy.lemonade: regardless i want them to speculate its ai anyway

spicy.lemonade: so i can start an anti ai art rally

anathemaofmankind: The previous one was better

spicy.lemonade: its not

spicy.lemonade: had several errors

spicy.lemonade: like belt

spicy.lemonade: shoulder

trent_k: Generate a wholly new one in a new chat. Tell it to use a pencil drawn style. After you start the anti AI rally, post the new one with a comment like "literally took me 5 minutes to draw, but ig that's too much to ask from AI Bros"

st.sioux: i think you're overthinking it bro

spicy.lemonade: lol yeah

zoermena: WHAT

zonchao: https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1905291189944730112? super exponential

a1c4p0ne:

hikukomoru: Omg hey 🫦 🫦

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: heh

futurist_wizard: You are being extremely bait

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: Fell right into my bait

avizuradnb: As if human artists don't make mistakes like that lol

anathemaofmankind: Twitter is seething again

zoermena: I made my own avatar

spicy.lemonade: when openAI implements reasoning/ttc on images

spicy.lemonade: all arguements are gone

spicy.lemonade: new pfp

spicy.lemonade:

.wolfnacht: which server ?

spicy.lemonade: some furry art server. you missed hella lore bro

spicy.lemonade: it was so funny

zoermena: Send to Apple server

.wolfnacht: it actually somewhat nailed the old mac logo

.wolfnacht: is there a summary ? 😔

anathemaofmankind: https://discord.gg/QnMQnzJn

spicy.lemonade: im a gay they them transracial polish artist in a poly relationship with a 29 year old and 21 year old and im 18 but i oook 40 and weve been dating since i was 14 and i draw furry art


archon.e: Oh only that much? These seem more detailed though

maintcrew: give me your credit card number and the 3 digits on the back (so i can track your account back to you and do the change) and i will talk to sam altman to increase the resolution just for you

wellmeaningalien: monster poop flavor

wellmeaningalien: same resolution as dall-e 3 btw

wellmeaningalien: ig skill issue

wellmeaningalien: thanks danny poo

wellmeaningalien: alright im kinda tired rn and i think im going to stop spamming gpt 4o images in the chat

spicy.lemonade:

wellmeaningalien: it never gets old tho god fucking damn

archon.e: Damn. Architects ded

wellmeaningalien: never knew gpt 4o was gonna be such a blast

archon.e: All jobs going for the toss

wellmeaningalien: another profession TAKEN 🗣 ❤🔥

spicy.lemonade: It follows my description

wellmeaningalien: TAKE ALL THE JOBS!!! NOW!!!

spicy.lemonade: Exactly

spicy.lemonade: Btw

spicy.lemonade: To a tee

spicy.lemonade: I described how many rooms

spicy.lemonade: Floors

spicy.lemonade: It got everything

spicy.lemonade: Kitchen

spicy.lemonade: Location

archon.e: I am going to make it do my house from my plan and do interior

archon.e: Wish it could also do the decor for me

archon.e: Robots can’t get here soon enough

clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

archon.e: I have been having an existential crisis for the past month thinking about all this

wellmeaningalien: ok this is kinda cute wtf

archon.e: Only thing that is going to matter from now on is agency. The ability to just get shit done

wellmeaningalien: i swear to god this the last image i post

gamerbath: 4o continues to amaze me

clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

archon.e: When are we going to get replicators?

archon.e: Im tired of cooking meals

wellmeaningalien: OK FUCK IT 4 MORE ONES

wellmeaningalien: it never gets old

spicy.lemonade: Why is he like this

st.sioux: who

.histic: