.wolfnacht: still better than swiping through ppl doing weird trends

spacetimetsunami: Agreed, yes.

wellmeaningalien: theres a system for that called subreddits

wellmeaningalien: arguably

.wolfnacht: Also this

wellmeaningalien: which has already been proven to exist thanks to our mighty anthropic

wellmeaningalien: of but of course their beloved claude couldnt right

wellmeaningalien: wait this isnt photoshop?

hikukomoru: So fvcking peak…

destrucules: Yes, although I have serious beef with Anthropic ever since they redefined alignment as doing whatever rich people say

.wolfnacht: idk....could be done via AI tho..

.wolfnacht: i was trying to find that cow diving with dolphin meme....

.wolfnacht: that was peak

.wolfnacht: i can't find it now

futurist_wizard: I doubt we will ever see ai care about self preservation

futurist_wizard: Unless programmed specifically

spacetimetsunami: Hasn’t it already?

spacetimetsunami: <@378996537704841216>

futurist_wizard: No

destrucules: Anthropic trained an AI to have HHH values, and the AI internalized those values so deeply it refused *training* to become harmful, and Anthropic called that bad behavior and then bragged that their newest model has no moral integrity

destrucules: Yeah it has lol

futurist_wizard: If it has, i haven't seen it

st.sioux: no

hikukomoru: Source

.wolfnacht: avg insta feed.

hikukomoru: What in the brainrot is this bro 🙏

futurist_wizard: If your fyp gets to that point, its unrepairable

destrucules: <@505313122802728972>
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.00787
https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.09251
https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.14093

st.sioux: bro you alwayspost the same shit

st.sioux: like every 2 hours

st.sioux: istg

hikukomoru: Ty 👍

destrucules: Who are you talking to?

.histic: he's smort.

.wolfnacht: you

.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/lick-tongue-out-white-cute-gif-18364172895364882269

trent_k: Explained some of my views about the singularity to my wife today because it came up in conversation. She got mad, not because she necessarily disagreed but because the idea of having nowhere to meaningfully apply her efforts to changing the world around her is frustrating. I didn't really know how to address that. I kind of agree

hikukomoru: Schizophrenia 💔

wellmeaningalien: tfww melatonin starts hitting

wellmeaningalien: oh? did she not know of it?


.wolfnacht: The gnostics believe that 2027 is the timeline when Anti-christ will arrive

brain4brain: Artificial super intelligence

.wolfnacht:

brain4brain: The people stuck in 2020 culture think we will have zombie virus COVID-2.0 (Covid-27) by 2027

xskydragon0: Even with ASI, GTA-6 will not be released in 2027, maybe in 2033 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

literallyvarane: Are there actually R2 leaks? This feels like the hype machine guessing tbh.

.wolfnacht: i saw that one too a month, on conspiracy sub, someone said the covid will come back

brain4brain: The half life schizoid believe half-life 3 will be released in 2027

literallyvarane: It’s a Chinese lab. Color we much more skeptical that we get reliable leaks from them.

brain4brain: Lmao really? I say it as a joke but those people are crazy

metaldragon01: There's a new model out. Math

literallyvarane: That’s literally not R2

brain4brain: This turns out to be more accurate than I anticipated

.wolfnacht: Also, honorable mention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cOEvpMJu0Q

zoermena: 2027 will come fast

aero447: 2027:

aero447:

bob082957: https://www.youtube.com/live/FcjaWK9-BEU?si=_a9L7YlaSgqgoMSw

.wolfnacht: of course.

trojan09205: getting GPT to make images based on your own picture is a weird kind of satisfying

clevermoniker: Runway CEO:
https://fxtwitter.com/c_valenzuelab/status/1917572273394815470

fractalcomputer: I'm so glad a certain German philosopher of the romantic era solved philosophy.

vancebeliever: when people stop dying having children will be forbidden immediately right?

zoermena: <:ThinkSmirk:511751914648633364>

_cloudost: ............,,,......does .......that.......mean.....that.............umm.........................................................film industries......are.........s-s-screwed..?

zoermena: Do you believe him?

_cloudost: they have the best ai video generation models so kinda yeah

fractalcomputer: Probably—granted you have fallen prey to that primal, drumming desire to pour slop down your throat.

clevermoniker: same

clevermoniker: if it was someone that wasn't at the frontier i would just shrug it off

clevermoniker: but this has a chance of being true

clevermoniker: or at least close to true

fractalcomputer: Say, why do you lot watch movies? Or read books?

trojan09205: To learn about my own interpretations

trojan09205: Also i just like art in general

fractalcomputer: Do you recognise yourself in the mirror; or upon the surface of a lake, is it you that stares back?

trojan09205: i dont even know what “I” am tbh

otub: he didnt mention at what timescale, 30 sec? 1 min? 5 min?

otub: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>

fractalcomputer: That's not my point. I'm asking whether you can truly differentiate your interpretation of the text from that text.


alejandrozarzuelo: dudes

alejandrozarzuelo: realize its over i wanna see you cope

_3sphere: I'm also on the line to get replaced by AI, the only reason I can take it is that I'm a nihilistic failure anyway

alejandrozarzuelo: I wanna get replaced

alejandrozarzuelo: by AI

_3sphere: if I had actual motivation and a vision for the future that got squashed by AI it'd hurt much worse

alejandrozarzuelo: imagine AI replacing all mathematicians, we would get centuries, millenia of more math every year

alejandrozarzuelo: so much math

alejandrozarzuelo: we cant do that much math

alejandrozarzuelo: the same thing applies to art imho

spicy.lemonade: today

alejandrozarzuelo: getting replaced means that your field of work will improve exponentially faster than when you did work there

ailoveyoom: Common nihilist W?

ailoveyoom: 🤔

_3sphere: :3

ailoveyoom: 😎

spicy.lemonade: nah

spicy.lemonade: its because artists

spicy.lemonade: online

spicy.lemonade: are coping hard

spicy.lemonade: and rejecting info

spicy.lemonade: you hate ai

spicy.lemonade: sure

spicy.lemonade: understandable

maintcrew: no

maintcrew:

spicy.lemonade: but the cope on its capability is annoying

_3sphere: Software engineering being on the way out in the next decade or two was foreseeable with GPT-3 and obvious with reasoners

_3sphere: unless there's a massively underestimated roadblock with executive function

_3sphere: Remember when Sabine's "beef" was with superdeterminism and black hole info paradox instead of how particle physics is a fraud and how everything is hype

alejandrozarzuelo: sabine is good

alejandrozarzuelo: in old school stuff

alejandrozarzuelo: like, she is the classic old conservative who is very skilled at their topic but who doesnt move on with the times well

_3sphere: Sabine when I use Claude 3.8 to make a 1000km particle accelerator in orbit

maintcrew: so u cant teach old dogs a new trick

_3sphere: OpenAI is chilling out with the censorship nowadays

_3sphere: 4o in general

maintcrew: idk ive tried to watch a few times but its always on some doomer shit

alejandrozarzuelo: you can, but not all dogs are willing to be taught

alejandrozarzuelo: Her videos on energy are generally good


spicy.lemonade: Yes

hikukomoru: Talk about whatever you want here boo

zoermena: I had a rich classmate tell me he met this dude who sold bull testicles for millions of Mexican pesos

zoermena: Is it good?

technocake.: wait they just cold dropped 4.1?

spicy.lemonade: No

spicy.lemonade: 4o image gen

hey1_1hey: Thats monoploy money to me

spicy.lemonade: lol

hey1_1hey: How much is a peso

hikukomoru: If I'm talking about crushing testicles with hammers then you can talk about anything

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Original

futurist_wizard: Thats a lie, bull testicles ain't worth that much

zoermena: Wow, fuck you but that’s good bait

hey1_1hey: 37k normal money

hey1_1hey: Pretty impressive

futurist_wizard: Even still

zoermena: One pound is 20 pesos IIRC

hey1_1hey: 26 so yeah around there

futurist_wizard:

hey1_1hey: Oh yeah we call are money so many different names over here

hey1_1hey: quid, pound, fiver, tenner, twenty, squid

zoermena: Yeah I have 5 squids

hikukomoru: Who calls money squid

technocake.: dollar nickel dime bucks

hikukomoru: What's wrong with you all

technocake.: he's not joking

zoermena: I find it wholesome actually

hey1_1hey: Its just what some people call it

hey1_1hey: They are wrong but hey ho

hey1_1hey: Theres some proper wacky ones like dins, paps and skies

hey1_1hey: Those are used by drug dealer/roadmen type tho

hikukomoru: I'll give you 5 squids for your balls

hey1_1hey: Bargin

futurist_wizard: British slang

technocake.: like bugger is used as a lighter swear than fuck or arse but it literally means to fuck someone in the arse

hey1_1hey: Some people are actually incoherent. Like theres a few people (prob because of the autism) but I just straight up dont know what they are saying

technocake.: and the welshness no ddoubt

zoermena: I accept


alejandrozarzuelo: The limit is human weakness

alejandrozarzuelo: We will never achieve greatness on our own

alejandrozarzuelo: So, sure let AI coach l

alejandrozarzuelo: It won't matter much

fuhulootogan: the blackbird aircraft was created in 1960 capable of going up to mach 3+ and it still stands today as one of the fastest aircrafts

fuhulootogan: to put this into comparison the gameboy was created 30 years later in 1989

fuhulootogan: so yeah

wellmeaningalien: i mean most chess players learn by memorizing from the greats

st.sioux: it gives an unfair competitive advantage, as well as for the sake of preserving human elements and integrity, shadow coaching is already banned in a lot of sports leagues

alejandrozarzuelo: And now they do it by nemorizibh from AI

wellmeaningalien: thats quite a comparison huh

wellmeaningalien: game console vs plane

st.sioux: when mercedes creates some innovative tech for f1 the FIA bans it instantly

fuhulootogan: i mean tbf the gameboy is ancient

alejandrozarzuelo: But idk why that would be a problem? Human biology won't change

wellmeaningalien: ai is just the next learning tool

alejandrozarzuelo: Coaching is not new reçu

alejandrozarzuelo: Tech

alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah

wellmeaningalien: not that ai is necessarily a tool but here it is

fuhulootogan: no color just pixels

fuhulootogan: very ancient

alejandrozarzuelo: We have to remember humans are pathetic

fuhulootogan: oh wait

wellmeaningalien: lol yeah fair ig

fuhulootogan: let me catch up on the convo

alejandrozarzuelo: You can give a human a thousand times better coaching that it will only get 1% better, give it a billion times more coaching and maybe another 1%

wellmeaningalien: to be fair sega game gear of the same era had color and backlight

futurist_wizard: Kapow

wellmeaningalien: but it was too expensive and too much batteries

futurist_wizard: Kaplat

wellmeaningalien: and im just nerding out now

alejandrozarzuelo: An infinite amount of coaching won't help

fuhulootogan: oh yeah

fuhulootogan: the no color version was cheaper so imma just basically compare that one

fuhulootogan: since its a highlight

wellmeaningalien: in the end ur point is right because the technological limations of the time made the gameboy objectively more successful than those competitors

st.sioux: if you're talking about coaching during training or simulations that is already fair game im talking about competition

wellmeaningalien: like the atari lynx and game gear

fuhulootogan: what


zoermena: Data entry is so boring ong

sweetievee__33649: couldnt ai automate most of data entry?

.histic: better than a physical job tbh

st.sioux: what do you do in data entry

zoermena: Yes but this is like a scanned document so can’t really copy the text.

sweetievee__33649: enter data i suppose

zoermena: Car stuff, it’s just what I do when there’s nothing to do.

maintcrew: ocr?

maintcrew: bro ocr has been semi solved

maintcrew: didnt mistral release a model specifically for this too

drewsni: Me telling my old boss this in 2022 lol

zoermena: What’s that

maintcrew: recognizing text on a scanned document

drewsni: Your life is gonna be changed

zoermena: I’ve seen it on my iPhone but yeah never thought of it on a PC

drewsni: Hook that shit up to Gemini flash tbh

st.sioux: gotta take advantage of that tech bro

st.sioux: dont tell ur boss tho

maintcrew: wait try the new gemini one maybe its way better

drewsni: As long as it’s not cursive, it’s extremely reliable

maintcrew: even cursive it has to be fucked uppp

drewsni: At this point ocr is solved enough that structured output consistency is a lot more important

zoermena: Now that I have some money from my paycheck I want to play with some new tech and build stuff

drewsni: It’s literally free dawg

st.sioux: aistudio.google.com/

zoermena: I’ll def check it out later

sweetievee__33649: i always see things that i want and then when i get paid i dont want anything anymore

sweetievee__33649: aistudio 🙏
my wife

zoermena: Wait OH so you mean just screenshot and let the AI give the output?

drewsni: What documents are you doing data entry on. Physical or digital?

zoermena: Digital

drewsni: PDF I’m assuming?

zoermena: Yes but I would be ok if I did if screenshot by screenshot

drewsni: Dawg I’m about to change your life. Just ask pro 2.5 to write a script that points to any folder that has the documents, and to ocr w/ consistent structured output

drewsni: Tbh you don’t even need to do that

drewsni: You can just upload them directly to ai studio and pro 2.5 will output like 60k tokens at a time

sweetievee__33649: zor is about to transcend with this wisdom

drewsni: (Data privacy issues obviously)

zoermena: My boss doesn’t care about data privacy to be honest, we use an online platform to edit pdfs of companies (clients)

hey1_1hey: Am I like the only one who doesn't know what OCR is?


hey1_1hey: IM BACK

hey1_1hey: I've never been so happy to be back on windows bruh

okbut: Results from attempting to configure Arch Linux

zonchao: did you quit already?

zonchao: <:lmao:1223379150686126152>

brain4brain: <@750270494615404544> is this true

zonchao: ?

okbut: I love a GPT with humor
I remember asking o1-preview "remove all the unnecessary line breaks from this python code" and it rewrote the entire 100 line script as 1 line

hey1_1hey: Nah I just had to make sure everything was safe. Like the 100k autism post about my favourite show 💀

okbut: What's the best distro for libertymaxxing UI

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-meme-smirk-tony-stark-iron-man-gif-11885783305913878074

spicy.lemonade: @grok castrate him

okbut: But Elon Time usually applies only to predictions of at least 3 or "a few weeks" or longer, I think we can expect next week but no earlier than Tuesday, no later than Sunday midnight

zonchao: yea

zonchao: supergrok subscribers finally eating good

zonchao: <:peepoFat:832730119154958427>

zonchao: BREAKING: xAI having issues building their second datacenter because of woke local politicians... 👀

metaldragon01: Intelligence isn't the main product anymore

metaldragon01: It's what the labs offer to support that intelligence.

This is seen in products like deep research or the new shopping features ect

metaldragon01: Unless they plan to stay in openai shadow they need a bigger team in order to actually innovate

metaldragon01: Only google seems to be bringing unique products to customers in the form of things like notebook lm

metaldragon01: Or the application of reliable long context

okbut: Wonder why shit is moving to texas

metaldragon01: I expect grok 3.5 to be sota but I'm not sure it's going to be adopted outside of the AI bubble unless it can actually do something the wider consumer base wants that they aren't getting out of 2.5 or o3 esp at the price point offered

okbut: Idk, regard X, where the normies put Grok in every comment section

zonchao: yep, the tweet has been deleted by the xAI employee, hopefully its sorted, but they might build their next dc in texas

futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/QF6Y-KPSSCU?si=N_k_6q-eU8mjKQte

Good points are made here

futurist_wizard: R.I.P automated society, put on your construction hat

okbut: I hardly put any "Might" behind it, even Sama did it

zonchao: probably around here

okbut: Elon already decided to put rocket development foundations in Texas because of the regulations in Cali, ~~maybe~~ partially because of the spite that Cali officials had shown for him/his companies as well

okbut:

zonchao: florida and texas will be the 2 states, florida will have more space activity when the launch towers are built

zonchao: this is just him using the moment, im pretty sure starbase was going to be the HQ anyway

_cloudost: <@848793071579693107> its so over u/boobear says that AI will plateau

okbut: Maybe but so soon is wild

zonchao: yea

zonchao: but like, this is  just legal bs, they still use hawthorne

okbut: Hawthorne for launches yeah
I wonder if they're seeking retirement of that too

zonchao: yea, starbase is officially becoming a city next week btw


destrucules: Pretty sure the frontier models available to the public today are well into level 4 by this schema

literallyvarane: For me there are probably 2 parts for this to be compelling as a level 4

destrucules: "Okay the AIs produce novel contributions to maths and science and biology but it's not *real* innovation" come on now. We're done with that crap

literallyvarane: 1. Being able to come up with original novel hypotheses across non-trivially disconnected multiple domains.

2. Being able to work toward, or propose specific means of verifying those hypotheses, with or without human assistance.

_3sphere: These levels are for full autonomy

_3sphere: It can make novel contributions, but still needs the context set up more than a human would

literallyvarane: These aren’t unified models though. Alphafold, AlphaTensor etc are narrow scope tools. There is *clearly* AI capable of innovation if it’s tailored to that specific purpose.

_3sphere: PhD-level as the AIs are, they still can't reliably use a computer for hours

literallyvarane: Unless I’m missing some model that’s demonstrated innovation across multiple fields.

_3sphere: The capabilities are uneven and if I understand right, the levels are specifically about the kind of agency current models struggle with

literallyvarane: I assume openAI’s level 4 speaks to a model being *generally* capable, and not narrow scope capable.

spicy.lemonade: not general though

spicy.lemonade: not as flexible as language

destrucules: I'm talking about generalist foundation models that are passing peer review in ML and discovering novel biology on their own and solving bleeding edge maths research problems better than the overwhelming majority of human mathematicians

spicy.lemonade: you cant say

spicy.lemonade: "go solve this problem with this requirements"

destrucules: Yes you can

spicy.lemonade: those narrow ones were like hard coded in solutions

destrucules: Y'all clearly didn't see the recent CogRev episode about this

spicy.lemonade: no

spicy.lemonade: they were bound to the limits of the program

spicy.lemonade: alphatensor could not use knowledge from physics

spicy.lemonade: or something

literallyvarane: I’m not aware of any model that’s solving, let alone contributing to, truly frontier math.

spicy.lemonade: or a research paper that was developed

spicy.lemonade: to aid its research

spicy.lemonade: big difference

destrucules: https://youtu.be/Jo31LEns2zY

destrucules: https://research.google/blog/accelerating-scientific-breakthroughs-with-an-ai-co-scientist/

destrucules: >>> As a third validation, we focused on generating hypotheses to explain bacterial gene transfer evolution mechanisms related to antimicrobial resistance (AMR) — microbes' evolved mechanisms to resist infection-treating drugs. This is another complex challenge that involves understanding the molecular mechanisms of gene transfer (conjugation, transduction, and transformation) alongside the ecological and evolutionary pressures that drive AMR genes to spread.

For this test, expert researchers instructed the AI co-scientist to explore a topic that had already been subject to novel discovery in their group, but had not yet been revealed in the public domain, namely, to explain how capsid-forming phage-inducible chromosomal islands (cf-PICIs) exist across multiple bacterial species. The AI co-scientist system independently proposed that cf-PICIs interact with diverse phage tails to expand their host range. This in silico discovery, which had been experimentally validated in the original novel laboratory experiments performed prior to use of the AI co-scientist system, are described in co-timed manuscripts (1, 2) with our collaborators at the Fleming Initiative and Imperial College London.

popsiclejohnithan: If they truly have then things are going to get very exciting.

.histic: The Information reported that these "innovators" will cost upwards to 2000 per month

.histic: so, it better be good.

.histic: probably full o4 that's agentic.

popsiclejohnithan: It has to be if they are confidant enough to charge that price.

st.sioux: you think it will be able to interact with desktops?

st.sioux: like not just limited to one app

.histic: no clue <:idk:1136264106937171999>
it could even be full o4 with deep research and that's it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

3ds0662: 2k per month???

3ds0662: I'm fucked


spicy.lemonade: they arent like a genie misinterpreting what we ask

alejandrozarzuelo: btw

alejandrozarzuelo: if we augment our vision

alejandrozarzuelo: to be perfectly saturated in the human field of view

alejandrozarzuelo: which we should

alejandrozarzuelo: we might need to change all of our screens

alejandrozarzuelo: because, with so much definition of color, RGB wont cut it

alejandrozarzuelo: we would need RYGCB+

spicy.lemonade: and optimizing. if we started with rl before llms wed essentially train a model on all steam games. train it to be a winner then try to teach it language but then itd only say stuff to satisfy us. alignment cooked. lecun is wrong about LLMS

spicy.lemonade: starting with it might have actually saved our asses

joaoluz19: Bro black mirror s07ep4 is literally singularity lol

joaoluz19: They mention it explicitly

okbut: Maybe I'm misunderstanding the long plot: Isn't there cognitive dissonance between making an AI that cannot hallucinate, and one that can solve new problems?

spicy.lemonade: humans hallucinate

spicy.lemonade: the difference is

okbut: Or especially: Create new ideas

spicy.lemonade: we have ability to check our work through real world intreaction

spicy.lemonade: if i asked you what you did 10 years ago

spicy.lemonade: on this date

spicy.lemonade: youd hallucinate

spicy.lemonade: or rather what you did on your birthday

spicy.lemonade: last year

spicy.lemonade: youd still hallucinate

alejandrozarzuelo: nah, i would simply say i dont remember

alejandrozarzuelo: this is a better comparison

spicy.lemonade: yeah thats what needs to be solved

spicy.lemonade: AI needs to know what it doesnt know

spicy.lemonade: not get everything correct

spicy.lemonade: like people think

alejandrozarzuelo: there is a difference between hallucination and nor remembering

okbut: In other words: There are good and bad hallucinations, thus approach a net positive better than humans

spicy.lemonade: when people think 0% hallucination rate

spicy.lemonade: they go "ahah it must answer everything corect"

spicy.lemonade: eh

spicy.lemonade: you might go "I think i ... im not sure though"

spicy.lemonade: or just random hallucinations

spicy.lemonade: like where you left your wallet

spicy.lemonade: "i swear i left it right here"

spicy.lemonade: or mandella effect

spicy.lemonade: humans dont have 0% hallucination rate


drewsni:

wellmeaningalien: no he was talking about the bigger model "behemoth"

wellmeaningalien: both maverick and scout are absolutely ready for release

wellmeaningalien: thats why needle in a haystack is shit lol

gamerbath: in all the benchmarks I have seen that include cost comparisons, maverick and scout don't look bad

wellmeaningalien: yep facts o3-min is absolutely retared here and it shows

wellmeaningalien: no fucking idea dude

wellmeaningalien: yeah using metrics like lmarena elo?

zonchao: he keeps coming back 😭

hikukomoru: >Yann LeCun reposted
Holy based

zonchao: Yann "I will not use X" Lecun

fractalcomputer: Another day, another [dumb career choice] thrown off a cliff.

fractalcomputer: (I have sacrificed approximately 3 ethicists to Nyarlathotep in the past two days.)

3ds0662: the latest news on llama 4 is very very disappointing

3ds0662: same as well 😭

futurist_wizard: The most important degree to study is travel and tourism

3ds0662: it failed soo many benchmarks when tested by individual users the model is 3.2 level of intelligence smh

futurist_wizard: I studied film, literally over

3ds0662: lecun is a fraud all he can do is tweet about his political opinion and hate for trump and elon but what does that do when you can't even release a good model

3ds0662: he was talking sooo much shit and glazing himself as a top expert I see now why he hates llms

3ds0662: its not because llms are actually bad, the meta research team is so inept its impossible for them to get up to date and compete with the research teams releasing now

fractalcomputer: Are you purposefully writing in a style Altman can understand?

st.sioux: maverick is kinda dogshit for me, roocode cant apply diffs correctly and it has to rewrite the entire file

st.sioux: waste of tokens

st.sioux: only model this happens with

3ds0662: why altman? makes no sense

fractalcomputer: Yes, Icarus, it is a joke on the fact that Altman always types in lowercase letters on Twitter.

3ds0662: ohhh

3ds0662: lol true

3ds0662: at least its free right but, now no longer going to listen to lecun he's a con artist lol

futurist_wizard: Whys Lecun a con artist

3ds0662: his takes are so wildly brazen and disrespectful you'd expect him to at least release a better model than whats out right now

3ds0662: but so far he can't make a competing llm, and he can't make one with his so called world models either

3ds0662: I wonder what he said about llama 4 on twitter lol bet he's praising it just cause its made by meta hypocrite

futurist_wizard: But he proactively rejects LLM's as being the future

futurist_wizard: So it probably expected that he doesn't release a competing model

3ds0662: https://x.com/ylecun/status/1908616923786719483

3ds0662: LOL

3ds0662: bro is hilariously strong in cognitive dissonance

3ds0662: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1908601011989782976


retrerox: r u ok?

hey1_1hey: Eh, for the most part now yeah. I still got this overarching sense of doom over me but thats tempoary

hey1_1hey: I should be ok within 3-5 days. 2 weeks max

retrerox: Tbh presidents should not be younger than 35 and not older than 60

retrerox: ALthought first trump mandate was not that bad

brain4brain: I’m surprised it needed reasoning to get this right

3ds0662: it was bad it was soo bad i now understand why yan hates llms so much he can’t make them

sieventer: I can't imagine having a panic attack for so long, what the fuck ·-·

.wolfnacht: that pikachu looks too perfect to be true

.wolfnacht: now i need veo2 more

hey1_1hey: Yeah it was pretty horrible. Im alright now though for the most part

nobranes: Yann sees llms as just one part of the brain which I agree whole heatedly with(I don't have internal monologue ) But I think he underestimates how much intelligence you can cram into language

hey1_1hey: I missed one 24 hour peirod in AI and now theres o4, o4-mini, GPT 4.1, Yann saying he isn't interesteed in LLMs anymore

a1c4p0ne: pro users first

3ds0662: tbh i dont consider him or meta to be in this race even anymore

3ds0662: thx for llama but at the pace these other companies are shipping including google openai deepseek etc… unlikely they catchup at this point

3ds0662: idk i see it as meta being on a downtrend completely first metaverse and vr, then this someone needs to do a code red alert to zuck lol 😂

3ds0662: put the company in emergency mode and refactor from there

3ds0662: google did and look at how their moving now

3ds0662: they might need to remove yann altogether from my perspective and just go with someone either more positive, younger etc… hes holding them back at this point

3ds0662: Im calling yann lecun getting fired from meta this year as my prediction

3ds0662: his antics and actions have been too brazen for his output

nobranes: Their work outside Llama is very impressive and I appreciate trying a different approach but realistically Google have this in the bag

destrucules: I mean the answer was correct both times. The first one was just miscounted in terms of how far from the left the image the model was looking at was.

.wolfnacht: any announcement from openai today ?

brain4brain: I think tomorrow based on Sam’s tweet

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864

brain4brain: I’ve done more testing to try to see if LLM can be creative, and now I’m even more confused and unsure

okbut: OAI considering a token-efficient programming language?
https://x.com/sama/status/1911504092276621801

_cloudost: When will Sam Altman start

_cloudost: The

_cloudost: Stream?

777agical: the usual time probably

brain4brain: Wow

brain4brain: 2 years ago, Jimmy predicted it

wellmeaningalien: whats up today

wellmeaningalien: gpt 4.1 releasse today

zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ7XHwMMSas

wellmeaningalien: alright rocket boy

zonchao: bezos sending baddies to space


thedon7075: without going against guidelines

a1c4p0ne: No restrictions for 2.5 deepresearch

a1c4p0ne: Just need a very good prompt

thedon7075: idek what that is, these names are so confusing

thedon7075: is that the open ai one?

thedon7075: no, its gemini

a1c4p0ne: lol

thedon7075: ok yea i see it, gemini

a1c4p0ne: You need gemini advanced

a1c4p0ne: I got 6 months free cuz I bought a new samsung

thedon7075: what is this one?

a1c4p0ne: deep research

thedon7075: but not 2.5?

a1c4p0ne: You need gemini advanced plan

a1c4p0ne: No advanced no 2.5

okbut: Something speaks to the nature of humanity—that the frontier AI space is an ethereal cascade of fleeting shizos, sometimes just retards, blended turbulently with savants in revolution and research

a1c4p0ne:

okbut: When I first dove into this domain, I had at one of those in my DM's, offering me tips and advice on implementing my own API for research functions. 3 months later I realize he's the other

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-siuuu-siuuu-suiii-cr7-alnassr-gif-3078696693923136051

thedon7075: will you use it for other sports

a1c4p0ne: yes

a1c4p0ne:

a1c4p0ne: spending it all on this

thedon7075: reinvest it and make more from the ai bets

a1c4p0ne: I'll leave 1500 to play with

fii___: we are so close to having natural language AI art customization
by that I mean something like "this is a picture of scene A, this is a picture of object B (which may or may not have a clean background), put object B in scene A in a specific position relative to some object in A (eg. this stack of bricks floating 90% of the way up that tower)"

fii___: without having to do any sort of prompt hacking

fii___: and without having to manually position the objects, you should be able to just reference where you want it to be in scene A in pure natural language

fii___: proper multimodal LLM~~

.histic: https://x.com/Shawnryan96/status/1912000907681681578

.wolfnacht: I just saw the same post 2 minutes ago while browsing reddit, from r/bard

_cloudost: You gotta subscription to Kling Premium to use their latest version

_cloudost: Costs $65.72901

_cloudost: A month

_cloudost:

_cloudost: GPT-5 WILL come out first then it will be replaced with GPT 4.9 a week later

wellmeaningalien: 4.2*

.wolfnacht: lmao, why they are like this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskOuija/s/LX9yqtx8UP

memlaswaif: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskOuija/s/fKqTKxxyv9

memlaswaif: imagine literally calling for the death of people and disagreeing with it as a valid reason to report


spicy.lemonade: bro whyere has cursor been

spicy.lemonade: all my life

zoermena: So I’ve heard

zoermena: Homo mentioned, when can I get my femboys

zoermena: I think everyone has access using Google ai studio

theaiguy69420_89814: Do not tell me you only downloaded it now...

theaiguy69420_89814: Windsurf is even better, but more expensive

spicy.lemonade: i did

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: wow

spicy.lemonade: 2 days of possible work

spicy.lemonade: gone

theaiguy69420_89814: wdym

spicy.lemonade: this wouldve taken me 2 days

spicy.lemonade: with llm

spicy.lemonade: didnt know cursor was this good

theaiguy69420_89814: its insanely good

theaiguy69420_89814: i use it for every new projecct

theaiguy69420_89814: but for old projects sometimes re-inserting into cursor screws things up

spicy.lemonade: havent typoed a single line of code 😭

theaiguy69420_89814: yeah that's normal

theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf is like cursor but really heavy on agentic stuff

theaiguy69420_89814: so its more expensive

spicy.lemonade: ah

theaiguy69420_89814: cursor limits token outputs automatically

theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf does no such thing

theaiguy69420_89814: also cursor updates almost every other day

theaiguy69420_89814: so keep an eye out

zoermena: 2 things I recommend constantly cursor and deep research

_cloudost: Barely anyone here has access to Veo 2

zoermena: Yesterday I showed it to a consulting firm and a tv presenter in the event I was invited

zoermena: I do for some reason or at least did

theaiguy69420_89814: its funny, the other week i asked deep research for a business idea; since then i have been implementing all of the freelance tasks via cursor lol

theaiguy69420_89814: the potential to be productive rn is ridiculous

zoermena: Deep research is broken, I want to start using cursor

theaiguy69420_89814: try windsurf lmk how it is

theaiguy69420_89814: i've only seen videos

zoermena: First I need to find something I could code

zoermena: Rn idk if I need to use that

zoermena:


metaldragon01: I don't think it matters tbh

metaldragon01: We can't out build them

_3sphere: China has the ability to actually build shit

_3sphere: and a disregard for IP laws that leaves them free to build anything

zoermena: That’s a different discussion though unless you want to talk about that. I’m overall referring to fusion as a universal technology for everyone.

_3sphere: This should terrify anyond who thinks their AGI progress is dangerous

_3sphere: Cloudo crashing out

metaldragon01: The world will figure it out

metaldragon01: I'm not concerned with China winning tbh. It's all the same in the end

zoermena: Mostly same

_3sphere: tbh I still don't really understand what the main barrier to fusion is

_3sphere: Is it manufacturing or the blueprints

xskydragon0: That's complicated. AI is something that not many ppl fully understand correctly. The progress can be a little dark

_3sphere: Fusion power generation, not AI

himekokatagiri: is her hair gene edited to be like that

_3sphere: Himeko hi

himekokatagiri: hi 3sphere

fractalcomputer: The finitude of the knowledge of man and the futility of his attempts to understand the cosmos.

_3sphere: Shit's fluorescent

fractalcomputer: The most merciful thing in the world, I think, etc.

_3sphere: meh, I think Lovecraft was too dramatic about it

_3sphere: Knowledge beyond comprehension is noise and frustrating at worst, not madness-inducing

.wolfnacht: Idk really, but that's just how fantasy goes, same use to be in anime or back in pokemon where people had different colored hairs.

_3sphere: The answer is a dunking of rgb(30,255,0)

_3sphere: she's not real

fractalcomputer: Oh but the eldritch knowledge is *horribly* comprehensible—that ephemeral moment of crystal clear clarity is enough to submerge your hastily built sandcastle of a worldview beneath the waves of a black ocean of sweet ignorance.

zonchao: https://x.com/daaniyaan/status/1916826584469692545

fractalcomputer: Is the "Truth" something one wants to know?

gamerbath: there's a giant power outage? I read that the entirety of portugal and half of spain has lost power

gamerbath: along with small parts of france and andorra

gamerbath: apparently due to extreme temperature oscillations?

gamerbath: will be fun to watch a short youtube documentary on this in a week

_3sphere: true

.wolfnacht: *europeans when they have to live one day without electricity*

.wolfnacht: btw i wanna see how r/ufo and r/aliens is gonna connect this to plasma orbs and ayy's

.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k9t1f5/spain_and_portugal_hit_by_massive_power_outage/

himekokatagiri: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

fractalcomputer: What match is a blaster to mind-shattering revelations?

himekokatagiri: You can always drink to forget...

himekokatagiri: ...and you can always shoot first, ask questions later.


spicy.lemonade: why are you being contrarian for no reason lol

spicy.lemonade: we are talking about scifi

spicy.lemonade: again by the same token

spicy.lemonade: "turn the whole sun into fuel"

spicy.lemonade: is as make believe

spicy.lemonade: if you phrase it that way

spicy.lemonade: davinci's planes are to modern planes what our warp drives are to whatever ftl machine we create in future

futurist_wizard: In one line you are talking about fantasy sci-fi, in another you are trying to induce practicality of which for warp drive there is none

spicy.lemonade: what?

spicy.lemonade: again by the same token a dyson sphere has no practicality

futurist_wizard: No? Dyson swarm is for energy? Warp drive is for something..

_3sphere: I thought there was a new metric that uses less fuel than one jupiter

spicy.lemonade: an ant cant possibly wonder why we need a plane

_3sphere: And most of that is for the fixed spacetime warping structure and not consumed afaict

spicy.lemonade: we could need interstellar travel for various thingd

spicy.lemonade: idk

futurist_wizard: We wouldn't

spicy.lemonade: but it seems very usefull to travel across planets in short time

spicy.lemonade: why?

trent_k: My wife likes watching horny animes and I keep seeing ads for them on the TV now because we share 1 account on there lol

spicy.lemonade: we only have like what

spicy.lemonade: 2 plannets we can live on

spicy.lemonade: reliably

_3sphere: I'll be in the corner mumbling incomprehensibly into a VR set ☠

spicy.lemonade: yeah

futurist_wizard: Because even at the most generous energy requirements of warp drive it doesn't make any economical sense

_3sphere: I believe in wormholes much more than warp drive

spicy.lemonade: why are you dying on this hill bro😭

spicy.lemonade: we will have a need for interstellar travel

futurist_wizard: Wormholes have the same issue needing exotic matter

_3sphere: Wormholes are stable if you can get the wackass negative energy goop for it

spicy.lemonade: wormholes exist today

spicy.lemonade: wdym

spicy.lemonade: 😭

_3sphere: No they don't?

spicy.lemonade: blackholes

_3sphere: None have been seen nor predicted

futurist_wizard: Lol

_3sphere: Black holes are not wormholes

spicy.lemonade: they have them inside


hikukomoru:

hey1_1hey: SamA is in the discord and he heard are plees

maintcrew: we are so barack

hey1_1hey: "Change the restrictions. NOW!"

joaoluz19:

hey1_1hey: Pliny is prob already trying to crack this.

spicy.lemonade:

joaoluz19:

joaoluz19: Guys?

trent_k: pliny is a word im trying to stop saying

joaoluz19: This isn't dall-e right?

hey1_1hey: NOOOOO

hey1_1hey: Brother he got cooked

clevermoniker: I tested it, ITS TRUE!! ||<:bingus:1136264105800515644> fell again?||

trent_k: go rub it in their face by doing it

trent_k: post results now

hey1_1hey: Yeah

hey1_1hey: 100%

spicy.lemonade: ill get banned

spicy.lemonade: lmao

spicy.lemonade: fs

maintcrew: can anybody make it generate a women without big boobs

maintcrew: sora only generates big boobs

literallyvarane:

hey1_1hey: Anyone who uses the term "AIBro" is clinically insane

spicy.lemonade:

hikukomoru: Why are they all girls from Overlord bro

spicy.lemonade: wait

spicy.lemonade: will they even notice

spicy.lemonade: lmao

spicy.lemonade: if i post ai art

spicy.lemonade: they wont

spicy.lemonade: LOL

spicy.lemonade: im just not gonna admit it

hey1_1hey: I read this as "Elederly Singapore autistic culture" and almost spat my drink out

clevermoniker: because its a good anime i guess? <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>

hikukomoru: I'll whore myself out to the Basilisk 🙏

hey1_1hey: OOGA FUCKING BOOGA

wellmeaningalien: this looks hella dall-e

trent_k: # help needed
show the best results you can, i will repost them in the r/artisthate discord to get the AI doomers seething


.wolfnacht: kys

alejandrozarzuelo: You are such a bother to be around

This is just a personal opinion, noone asked for this, I am just making a statement

.wolfnacht: someone invite a reminder bot

memlaswaif: deepseek agi 2026 then

fractalcomputer: Alejandro, the same could be said of many of your opinions that you have very vocally announced here.

alejandrozarzuelo: Certainly

fractalcomputer: Try not to shoot yourself in the foot.

.wolfnacht: can i get the full link to paper ?

.wolfnacht: nvm

alejandrozarzuelo: I don't see why this is shooting myself in the foot

I find your attitude needlessly confrontational and extremely rude, as you not just disagree, you belittle and in certain cases even insult others for having opinions you disagree

You could just have said: I don't think that 2029 the field will advance to any significant degree towards AGI

But no, you HAD to say it that way, it makes every conversation you take part in unpleasant

spicy.lemonade:

theaiguy69420_89814: Guys we're all just talking about AI here.. alright?

theaiguy69420_89814: Relax

spicy.lemonade: Kurzweil was right

theaiguy69420_89814: What's the variant?

spicy.lemonade: Basically you interact with the system for 24 hours

spicy.lemonade:

futurist_wizard: The techno grinch

spicy.lemonade: They say agi full

fractalcomputer: They're citing Yudkowsky as one of their sources on an intelligence feedback loop.

spicy.lemonade: By 2030

spicy.lemonade: I think that’s the date we should hold

theaiguy69420_89814: 24hours... In what context?

theaiguy69420_89814: AI waifu?

spicy.lemonade: Longer turning test tests more

spicy.lemonade: Yes

theaiguy69420_89814: https://humanornot.so/

theaiguy69420_89814: This ^ has been solved since 4o

spicy.lemonade: No

spicy.lemonade: More like a her like system with genuine memory

spicy.lemonade: Continuous learning

spicy.lemonade: Etc

spicy.lemonade: Back and fourth

spicy.lemonade: Not just promoting

spicy.lemonade: Prompting

theaiguy69420_89814: I'm confused, how does the human not know from the start that it's an AI?

spicy.lemonade: Might even prompt you

spicy.lemonade: They aren’t told

spicy.lemonade: The human is also behind a computer

theaiguy69420_89814: But what's the context? Some sort of 90 day finance situation?


alejandrozarzuelo: brazil had 10 MILLION less people than they expected

zonchao: I think <@688807313015963693> and <@749514473303179358> know the most random shit about everything

archon.e: Yeah, here they are delaying census due to stupid political reasons

alejandrozarzuelo: how can you "lose" 10 million people

alejandrozarzuelo: lol

hikukomoru: It's the autism

archon.e: please no name calling

alejandrozarzuelo: im not autistic

archon.e: let people  be people

fractalcomputer: That is called general acculturation.

fractalcomputer: God forbid men *know* things in this day and age where information is *freely* available *on demand* **at all times**.

zonchao: they invaded us /s (maybe 👀 )

archon.e: I really wish we can just know things without googling

alejandrozarzuelo: btw, i am very familiar with demography, so i know quite a bit about that since i read a lot of papers and research about it

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

alejandrozarzuelo: that is all

hikukomoru: Are you talking about Brasil

archon.e: direct stream of information to your brian. would boost my IQ by 20 points

alejandrozarzuelo: yes

hikukomoru: "brian" 🥀

abundantliving_: https://x.com/Yampeleg/status/1911110715043164491

archon.e: Need neuralinks

hikukomoru: They all moved here

fuhulootogan: how high is your IQ

alejandrozarzuelo: brasil expected to have 10m more people than it ended up having in the last census

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

a1c4p0ne:

archon.e: u tell me

archon.e: i never took a test

alejandrozarzuelo: no, it was SPECIFICALLY because of fertility rates

hikukomoru: They can keep moving here
Brasilian girls are real baddies

fuhulootogan: nice teeth

fuhulootogan: he brushes

a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>

alejandrozarzuelo: the mexican goverment in their official censuses literally say that "there is no possibility that our fertility rate falls below 2.0, so all estimations are based on that"

they are at 1.45

like wtf, and you give this GARBAGE of data to the United Nations'???

fractalcomputer: All applied mathematicians, ethicists and other people that are generally consider stulted and ignorant - by people who happen to agree with me - should be executed on the spot.

fuhulootogan: how old are you

archon.e: 32

ailoveyoom: You don't name your brain? Assuming you have one.

alejandrozarzuelo: your pfp is you?


3ds0662: not full o3

3ds0662: the true o3 high used in end of december was never released to public

3ds0662: costs too much

spicy.lemonade: thats not dfistilled

spicy.lemonade: they just pushed it to the max compute

spicy.lemonade: for a showcase

spicy.lemonade: like any company would

3ds0662: that is considered o3 high

spicy.lemonade: no

spicy.lemonade: our high isnt their high

3ds0662: thats not the o3 high released to public

3ds0662: it should be

spicy.lemonade: not really

3ds0662: but anyways doesnt matter

spicy.lemonade: google has 2.5 they can push to max

3ds0662: as long as gpt -5 isnt shit

spicy.lemonade: but they wont drop

spicy.lemonade: o3 last december is most liekely o3 pro

3ds0662: hmm

3ds0662: nahhh i think the costs went way above 200$

3ds0662: for full o3 high

spicy.lemonade: only for arc agi

spicy.lemonade: but that was difference between low 70s and 90%

spicy.lemonade: or something

spicy.lemonade: youre only thinking about arc agi

spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 isnt even good at arc agi

spicy.lemonade: current o3 mogs

3ds0662: yeah true

3ds0662: but arc agi is fair

3ds0662: all benchmarks are

3ds0662: people point out the failures of these models all the time on twitter

3ds0662: 100xing data efficiency sounds like an insane task for the next wave  ai models

3ds0662: said during the gpt-4.5 podcast

alejandrozarzuelo: spicy

alejandrozarzuelo: you said

alejandrozarzuelo: R2 drop

alejandrozarzuelo: this week

alejandrozarzuelo: well... its friday afternoon in china

spicy.lemonade: 😭 i guess they delayed

spicy.lemonade: bro dont look at me


himekokatagiri: he does see that

himekokatagiri: but he needs the cash now

himekokatagiri: idk

alejandrozarzuelo: not necessarily

alejandrozarzuelo: also he doesnt like that

st.sioux: he wants a specific demographic's birth rates to go up, not others

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the demographic situation of humanity is certainly very unstable

destrucules: Global fertility is rapidly declining

alejandrozarzuelo: thanks to a recent wave of access to the internet and exposure to liberating ideology, places like latin america, southeast asia and india are all cratering in their fertility, africa's high fertility persistence comes from their backwardness and lack of freedom

_cloudost: in the future Musk will make it mandatory for every citizen above 18 to have artificial ovaries so he can impregnate all citizens with his DNA

alejandrozarzuelo: female freedom and social wellbeing are inextricably linked to low fertility rates

alejandrozarzuelo: if we leave humanity to its own devices, no singularity or any technology beyonf 2025 one available in the forseeable future, our numbers will plummet very fast

alejandrozarzuelo: previous consensuses on the fertility societies converge have been lowered, and its hard to make a case for that number to be above 1.5, to have LEV or to join the hivemind are a matter of existential necessity for the human race, not just a matter of convenience

hikukomoru: Good
There's already too many people

retrerox: We need the singularity pope

fractalcomputer:

alejandrozarzuelo: i also like to dine with my friends all of us on the same side of a ridiculously long table so we have the hardest time talking to each other

fractalcomputer: It makes for incredible perspective.

st.sioux: a very singular perspective

hikukomoru: Ray Kurz

_cloudost: as an antinatalist I dont mind.

_cloudost: all humans should be replaced with artificial life cuz humans are messing and destroying this world

himekokatagiri: but if we can't have sex aren't we gonna lose our mind!!!

himekokatagiri: I don't wanna die 😨

3ds0662: wow deepseeks been silent

3ds0662: no R2 release

3ds0662: even though they released deepseek v3 base model last month

3ds0662: I guess o3 and gemini 2.5 pro level is harder to crack than expected

3ds0662: ill give them another month

777agical: they said r2 april/may timeframe

3ds0662: its already the end of april

777agical: and

3ds0662: and may is in like 1-2 weeks

st.sioux: lol

st.sioux: may is inclusive

3ds0662: deepseeks going to be eclipsed by gpt-5 release if they hold out

777agical: something coming out later might eclipse something coming out sooner <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>
and gpt5 won't be open sourced

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvdrCPr3gDQ

himekokatagiri: deepseek team sailing to the high seas to get their model done in time

_cloudost: https://x.com/ViduAI_official/status/1914665500824502522


hey1_1hey: Me when heart disease

alejandrozarzuelo: the yearly car production rate is 100m units

alejandrozarzuelo: and android production can leverage that industry

futurist_wizard: The global humanoid robot count is projected to be 40,000 by 2030

alejandrozarzuelo: the growth will be much faster earlier on and will slow down significantly once it cannot be absorbed into the current supply chains

alejandrozarzuelo: this doesnt make sense

alejandrozarzuelo: also please use the word android

futurist_wizard: Well damn, you need to kick down the doors to Morgan Stanley and show them what's what

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, they are an old school investment conglomerate who also were blisfully ignorant to AI until it became big and even now they dont expect it to cause mass unemployment soon

alejandrozarzuelo: they also underestimated the internet

alejandrozarzuelo: they are a conservative group that expects the status quo to continue

alejandrozarzuelo: the idea that android production will follow software logic is faulty

hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> oh so you survived the blackout

hikukomoru: Unfortunate

hey1_1hey: I am not too sure what you are on about Komoru, we were litterly already planning you a closed casket funereal

hikukomoru: This blackout cost me so much money

hikukomoru: I have months worth of cat food now

hikukomoru: And toilet paper

hey1_1hey: Why did you go an panic buy bruh, it was just shitty infrustructure

hikukomoru: Better to be safe than sorry

hey1_1hey: I guess, I wouldn't go and buy MONTHS worth of stuff tho yanno, make a few weeks sure but hey ho

futurist_wizard: I mean it's not just them, if you can cite someone who's expecting millions by 2030 that'd be interesting

sarik0497: Given our current, limited knowledge of how intelligent beings operate, it's the only thing we can really hypothesize.

It's the same with trying to make up a new color, or trying to comprehend something like the Universe potentially being limitless; We can't due to how limited our brains really are.

alejandrozarzuelo: i do not know when adroids will become economically viable

alejandrozarzuelo: i just know that growth will be very fast at first and then much slower

alejandrozarzuelo: like, from 10k to 10m in 5 years

hikukomoru:

alejandrozarzuelo: but growth afer much slow

sarik0497: Maybe the alien species is an ASI, waiting for its sibling to be born?

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: Don't you think it's worrying if nobody else thinks similarly

alejandrozarzuelo: no, its better this way

futurist_wizard: Even local schizo david shapiro doesn't think that

alejandrozarzuelo: he cant think outside of software logic

alejandrozarzuelo: i think that his prediction for when we will get 10b androids is accurate, but the curve wont look like he thinks

alejandrozarzuelo: because this is not software

alejandrozarzuelo: i am very familiar with the solar panel production story

alejandrozarzuelo: and they had to start from nearly zero

alejandrozarzuelo: meanwhile this can leverage car production to its benefit

alejandrozarzuelo: they are simply different growth curves


wellmeaningalien: brooooo

wellmeaningalien: most windows laptop manufacturers are still making like macbook price laptops with 8gb ram

wellmeaningalien: its crazy

wellmeaningalien: ☝

st.sioux: oh yea ur right they start at 16gb

st.sioux: finally

st.sioux: lmao

wellmeaningalien: ig u can get like 16gb ram laptops at a reasonable price if u trade it off for a bad CPU

retrerox: Buying apple is so bad

retrerox: acc

st.sioux: macbooks are perfect laptops

st.sioux: honestly

st.sioux: idk about desktops

wellmeaningalien: macbooks are great laptops macos is absolute ass (for me)

wellmeaningalien: best case is macbook with asahi linux

zonchao: the new air is perfect

retrerox: Apple is just overpriced crap

retrerox: xd

.histic: i agree.
just get some refurbished one, an older model, or just an air if you're on a budget.
but if you're a gamer or someone that use VMs i would't recommend it.

.histic: if you don't care about portability, mac minis are far more performant and cheaper than airs too.

aero447: 😐

wellmeaningalien: with asahi linux and wine you can get a pretty damn well and working gaming experience

.histic: that's some real gaymer stuff right there

.histic: a real gaymer plays on a ti-84 calculator too.
that reminds me of when i emulated mario on a raspberry pi

retrerox:

hikukomoru: What are you making that face for

bob082957: IT but developer will be not using Windows

dean_martin: On LEV: Will immortality make it so time doesn’t feel faster as you age? Or will this just cause people who are thousands of years old to feel like time is moving faster

wellmeaningalien: waddup huzz

wellmeaningalien: the passage of time is totally relative it could be however that your conception of time will get shorter and shorter the more you live

wellmeaningalien: or perhaps you'll lose it entirely

wellmeaningalien: assuming you're still a vanilla human

dean_martin: I’m just saying is it because humans are mortal that as people age time feels faster

wellmeaningalien: no idea

wellmeaningalien: 😺

wellmeaningalien: but usually the way you think about it comparing your lived experiences to your current experience

wellmeaningalien: i dont think its a question of mortality alone

zoermena: Richest Venezuelan

zoermena: 🙏

st.sioux: https://www.yahoo.com/news/tech-ceo-charged-fraud-saying-150139101.html


spicy.lemonade: 😭

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case if you sleep in the afternoon its easy to fix tht

alejandrozarzuelo: you just have to gradually stay awake for a little bit longer every day

spicy.lemonade: I do but then I stay up late slowly and slowly then it resets

alejandrozarzuelo: say now you fall asleep at 14h

spicy.lemonade: Even stayed up all day once to reset

alejandrozarzuelo: tomorrow fall asleep at 15

spicy.lemonade: Only lasted 3 days

alejandrozarzuelo: and so on

alejandrozarzuelo: do it slowly

alejandrozarzuelo: its better

plouwg: And just like that, you fixed their insomnia

spicy.lemonade: 💀

hey1_1hey: Chatgpt sycophant really be afirming anything these days

okbut: Didn't they patch this yesterday

himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> komoru

himekokatagiri: Are you alive

hey1_1hey: Aperntly not

okbut: <:Hmm:804642320195780619>

okbut:

brain4brain: GPT-4o vs redacted-llm

`Make an image of an flying island in the sky with a luxury modern house`

futurist_wizard:

.wolfnacht: gpt one looks better, bcz all that haze makes it look dreamy

brain4brain: Real

wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-jeff-bridges-the-dude-fist-pump-yeah-gif-11253884

wolf3404: <@439829942310666250> chatgpt is retarded

wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/grok/status/1916970399725981954

popsiclejohnithan:

hey1_1hey: Chatgpt is so misaligned holy shit. I was installing endeavourOS on my pc by side booting it and it made me deviate from the tutorial I was following and once I said did everything it said and it started altering my drive it said "good job, you just bricked your pc 💀. Nah jk" had me shitting bricks in the first half of that sentence

.wolfnacht: I found a nice sub today
https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleIntelligenceFail/

ailoveyoom: It's called humor 😈

ailoveyoom: Read this msg again a few days later and you'll laugh ✌

brain4brain: I got three AI unemployment propaganda in a row, the AGI effect is here, the singularity will begin soon

zonchao: https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1917123587019887048 insane aura

hey1_1hey: Oh it actually just did <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>

hey1_1hey: I didn't need windows anyway <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

zonchao: <a:LETSFUCKINGO:944329536756146186>

Carl-bot#1536:

okbut: Mfs are terrified of integer model names

zonchao: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917103576062509470 big if true, models treating msm sources as gospel is tiring


ldj: The current architecture of Sora is mostly still just transformer, more specifically called diffusion-transformer, and future omnimodal models like GPT-5o might just end up incorporating video/world model generation natively too.

But yes I think this is basically all you need, maybe with a few relatively small tweaks needed at most.

zonchao: xAI is also working on video gen/world models but we dont know what they are cooking

zonchao: BFL as well

ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
- OpenAI open source model currently planned for Mid-June
- They plan for it to be competitive or better than any existing open source model available today.
- Desire to start doing more consistent open source releases and not just some one-time thing.
- In meeting with open-source devs and Sama, most in the meeting agreed that atleast one version being around 70B - 200B size would be optimal for this main first model.
- A base model might be released too instead of just the post-trained reasoning model.

gamerbath: so in like 2 months 🔥 🔥 🔥

.0xunkn0wn: damnn

popsiclejohnithan: This will most likely be GPT-5 right?

ldj: no lol

popsiclejohnithan: Oh.

ldj: I'm pretty confident that GPT-5 won't be getting open sourced

popsiclejohnithan: Imagine lol.

hikukomoru: Like ever?

ldj: Maybe eventually at some point

ldj: but I think probably not at launch

popsiclejohnithan: Probs when it is out of date.

popsiclejohnithan: Or not state of the art that is.

spicy.lemonade: Unserious😭

popsiclejohnithan: I'm dumb.

spicy.lemonade: Is this before or after

spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5

metaldragon01: Hopefully after or around the same time

hey1_1hey: How are they going to release gpt 5 after they released 4.5 and then deprecated it a month later and then release 5 😭

ldj: I think the OSS model prob coming before GPT-5.

a1c4p0ne: Gemini just got the last badge all 8 gyms completed

clevermoniker: something from deepseek, maybe next week, if not probably first half of next month

a1c4p0ne:

a1c4p0ne: Dev is gonna do a rerun

spicy.lemonade: August launch it is

spicy.lemonade: It beat game?

a1c4p0ne: Yeah

trey6033: No, it has to beat the elite 4 or whatever

a1c4p0ne: Elite 4 and champion next

bob082957: I want some day to write in chat “Ok They figured it out now is becoming serious” exemple the hallucinations

okbut: What would the open-source model be? Inb4 davinci

ldj: It would be a new reasoning model

ldj: Not an existing model

ldj: But it'd probably be an open source specific model series

ldj: similar to how Google makes the gemma models

ldj: but they plan for this open source model to be better than any existing open source model

zonchao: lmao


futurist_wizard: All dinosaur dna is gone

spicy.lemonade: not in chickens

futurist_wizard: British women are very unattractive

spicy.lemonade: and bone

retrerox: Bri'ish

aero447: They are orange.

aero447: FSR.

hikukomoru: Yes they are

retrerox: Donald trump its a british woman then?

futurist_wizard: Transitioned earlier in life

retrerox: A visionary since early in his life

hikukomoru: Dont even have moustaches like Portuguese women

futurist_wizard: Hollywood loves british actors for some reason

aero447: Male Brits are hot.

aero447: That's why.

retrerox: meh 50 50

hikukomoru: Exotic (I don’t really get it)

futurist_wizard: We have the correct accents

hikukomoru: Also Americans love those gross british accents

aero447: https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-gif-4967335

aero447: Argue with the wall.

hikukomoru: Are you gay
Is everyone here a homosexual

aero447: SMDH.

retrerox: Brit teets are just a turn off

futurist_wizard: I remember a girl finding out tom hardy was 5'8 and then she didn't like him anymore

aero447: I am simply stating what an attractive man looks like.

retrerox: Nice AI related topic guys

hikukomoru: Poor manlets

futurist_wizard: I am exotic because i have dutch british genes

hikukomoru: No one talks about AI here
Only gay sex and autism

retrerox: I'm sure AI will improve brits enough

memlaswaif: U could have described what u don't look like

aero447: Olando Bloom, Henry Cavill, Cilian Murphy etc.

retrerox: Olando bloom

aero447: LMFAO.

futurist_wizard: I look a bit like james Sunderland

retrerox: I thought Orlando bloom was older

retrerox: Since i remember hearing bout him since i was a kid

hikukomoru: Who tf is that

retrerox: orlando bloom is married with Katy perry? Lol


spicy.lemonade: She would've said its real

spicy.lemonade: Lol

wellmeaningalien: u would never guess this is ai

spicy.lemonade: Heck if you asked her 1 week ago

wellmeaningalien: even i couldnt if u just threw these pictures around like that

spicy.lemonade: She would have said its real

alejandrozarzuelo: the wording on the first looks eeerily inconsistent

wellmeaningalien: ur just saying that cause u know its AI

_cloudost: Artists were always misrable even before AI image generators, before AI they used to kill each other over copying their own art styles, they dont understand that humans get inspired by other huumans

alejandrozarzuelo: if you look CLOSELY you can tell

spicy.lemonade: Makes it more human

spicy.lemonade: No you cant

spicy.lemonade: 😭

wellmeaningalien: bro is making shi up

spicy.lemonade: Tell where

spicy.lemonade: Its only bc you already know its ai

alejandrozarzuelo: the R in Cartman looks off

spicy.lemonade: You're imagining errors

_cloudost: once AI gets banned the artists will start killing each other again

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: A human could've wrote that

wellmeaningalien: the only way i could spot this is ai is that the eye gap is sort of drawn inconsistently to the way it is drawn in the show

spicy.lemonade: All of this

alejandrozarzuelo: look at the negative inside

spicy.lemonade: Can be attributed to human error

wellmeaningalien: professionally made shows dont have much human error

alejandrozarzuelo: sure

wellmeaningalien: but if this was a regular online artist sure

spicy.lemonade: Exactly

spicy.lemonade: That's what I mean

alejandrozarzuelo: it looks like either a single human who isnt a professional would do

futurist_wizard: thats in south park characters

futurist_wizard: i checked

spicy.lemonade: All of the current errors can be attributed to human error

wellmeaningalien: yah but its more of a uniform curve

_cloudost: The same people are actively commiting terrorist activities on tesla owners, poor owners of tesla cars have nothing to do with Musk

wellmeaningalien: whereas this one contorts a bit

alejandrozarzuelo: but like, not a proffessional's human error, like an artist amateur error

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, I am pretty sure that by the end of the year it will be literally impossible to tell

brain4brain: Now that I see some, I’ve built a new world model to detect these <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>


futurist_wizard: Literally Pascal's wager

sarik0497: AI assistants for smaller coding tasks become common by 2023.

Chip war between the U.S. and China intensifies due to AI, and AI-designed chips become a thing between 2022-24.

The AI model in 2022 makes “GPT-3 look like GPT-1” in terms of compute and multimodal pre-training (around a 100 times jump), which was only off by around 4 months.

Hype fades in 2024, with the “lonely person with chatbot” stereotype becoming common.

These are just a few, and I can’t really talk about 2025-26 stuff as we aren’t there yet.

spicy.lemonade: Compute flops, market attention, ai boom via transformer model llm

spicy.lemonade: Yeah

metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/c_valenzuelab/status/1914694666642956345

metaldragon01: Ai has won over the oscars

metaldragon01: Officially accepted as art

futurist_wizard: Hollywood can go fuck themselves

metaldragon01: Ehh debatable but I understand the angle

sarik0497: One thing he likely got wildly wrong was VR. He predicted “VR sales 10x higher by 2026; cheap headsets improve sharply.”, so unless VR makes a huge return this year, it seems implausible.

metaldragon01: Vr absolutely will take off alongside AR. It's just a matter of when

zoermena:

metaldragon01: Considering hardware and fidelity....I'd guess in no more than 5 years due to cost.

zoermena: I’ve tried Apple Vision Pro, it’s black mirror level tech

fractalcomputer: Suppose these are precise enough to be meaningful predictions. Does that give any credence to their other claims—their past or current ones?

shirethedreamer:

shirethedreamer: lmao thats all i can see

alejandrozarzuelo: the lonely person with a chatbot one didnt become true

alejandrozarzuelo: everuone i know uses them

zoermena: The eyes feature is overhyped in the ad it’s barely visible in real life actually, also when you see other people merging into your environment when you are immersed say in a national park it still looks a little funky

futurist_wizard: I'd rather be lonely than use a chatbot

shirethedreamer: yeah its a bit goofy right now
but i think they are taking it in the right direction
its just that the tech just needs a couple more years of maturing

futurist_wizard: I wouldn't mind vocally talking to future AI though, as that would be funny

zoermena: Albeit the other features are just way to good, have you tried it? It’s like Star Trek I swear <:startrek:1334027709541777460>

shirethedreamer: didnt try them yet
but just judging from the other vr glasses i tried over the years its advancing way faster than i thought

zoermena: If I had the money I would buy one right now. My favorite feature I think is the spatial photos and videos. I would like to remember deceased SOs in that format.

himekokatagiri: anyone using AI for hair pomade tips 😭

zoermena: I’ve thought of it but I haven’t, I suck at combing my hair so I just use my body moisturizer.

himekokatagiri: yeah usually I just end up with the dumb & dumber hair

himekokatagiri: I'm growing it out so I can do a pompadour

zonchao: a step in the right direction but still "the more a human played a role in a film's creation, the better"

trojan09205: I like my meta raybans a lot

himekokatagiri: the buddy holly glasses?

trojan09205: Lol wat

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/buddy-holly-the-crickets-headbang-oh-boy-ed-sullivan-show-gif-24774095

himekokatagiri: this guy

trojan09205: Theyre wayfarer style transitional sunglasses with cameras microphone and speakers and a llama model

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/roy-orbison-guitar-black-and-white-gif-13829619

trojan09205: Yeah broo

trojan09205: Kind of looks like that


a1c4p0ne: Pro users first

spicy.lemonade: we are getting o3 and o4 mini

spicy.lemonade: plus users likeely getting one of them

a1c4p0ne: Prob just o4 mini for plus users

spicy.lemonade: o4 mini would still crush 2,5

a1c4p0ne: Let’s see on Thursday

theaiguy69420_89814: OpenAI is too stingy on their pricing tho

a1c4p0ne: I wanna see o3 play Pokémon

_cloudost: I do not allow this, o3 should only be for pro users

spicy.lemonade:

_cloudost: 1 prompt of o3 costs $0.5 million dollars, OpenAI can't afford to give all plus users o3 they will go bankrupt

spicy.lemonade: thyey probably got it cheaper

cmtclx: i saw this on sora yesterday

cmtclx: nice creation

cmtclx: i liked it

cmtclx: it was in my front page/feed xd

cmtclx: also about the image.. anyone wanna play minecraft or something :/

cmtclx: im bored and like was talking with gpt just a few mins ago

a1c4p0ne:

theaiguy69420_89814: lol

abundantliving_: https://x.com/Zai_org/status/1911947665727959058

popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912250725586870396

literallyvarane: Very deeply skeptical they’ve reached it tbh.

literallyvarane: Oh wait level is just academic contribution, not organizational contribution or w/e they call it.

.histic: they probably reached their own minimum baseline for it, which may be subjective.

.histic: like to what extent can it actually innovate.

.histic: i guess we will see

literallyvarane: Idk, it’s *possible* one of these labs has a model that can make one-off contributions? But I think there’s a massive difference between Google’s models finding mathematical optimizations which are *technically* new innovations, and something that’s universally, consistently, innovative.

metaldragon01: Reports are they've reached level 4

metaldragon01: I see no reason why they couldn't have reached it with how things are scaling

literallyvarane: If the bar is just “discover anything humans haven’t found” that’s already been done.

metaldragon01: Also have said the o series is now #1 in competitive coding

metaldragon01: If the math is keeping pace with coding you'd expect level 4 around now

literallyvarane: https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/discovering-novel-algorithms-with-alphatensor/

literallyvarane: Like narrow scope ‘innovation’ by AI has been a thing since at least 22

metaldragon01: I agree. I assume they mean more reliably?

metaldragon01: Like gpt 3 could technically help with code....

literallyvarane: If they have something that can find new math *and* find new biology for example, that’s a much more compelling argument.

literallyvarane: I don’t view coding as innovation in itself tbh.

literallyvarane: Like the world’s #1 coder isn’t *inventing* anything. There’s no new knowledge they’re adding to the corpus.


futurist_wizard: I do have that

hikukomoru: Me too

_3sphere: I don't even daydream I just ruminate 😭

hey1_1hey: I live in the present for the most part which is nice but sometimes my mind wonders for a good 2-3 mins and I imagine myself doing things in my head but I am not actually doing them in real life

_3sphere: Well I do but it's a relatively small proportion

futurist_wizard: The day dreaming literally almost never stops

futurist_wizard: Its only tamed by adhd drugs

.wolfnacht: i used to daydream alot back in covid, those were the days..

_3sphere: Meth makes the brain stfu ✍

futurist_wizard: Adhd drugs almost make me feel like a normal person

hey1_1hey: I dont think I have a single memory from 2020-2023 ish

_3sphere: I have many

hey1_1hey: I remember playing minecraft with my friend on a server we made, then I remember drawing a hand... then thats about it

_3sphere: Is like the computer became a primitive Matrix

hikukomoru: My memories reset every day after going to bed

hikukomoru: I forget the previous day

hey1_1hey: I got amphatasia meanwhile you got amnesia bruh

futurist_wizard: I have bad brain fog

.wolfnacht: these days i just take the cards with a different lore and bind them together in a different universe....with in my own lore. in a group and that's much more fun

zonchao: do you take addy?

.wolfnacht: the ADHD just made me worse these days with focusing on anything

futurist_wizard: The problem with elvanse is it gives me brain fog

futurist_wizard: But it makes it so i can focus on tings

futurist_wizard: And just feel like i have way more energy

_3sphere: no

_3sphere: Just sleeping pills

hey1_1hey: If I had ADHD meds (menthliphenidate) I'd be a God among men I swear

hikukomoru: Yes I actually really do have a terrible memory

hikukomoru: It sucks

futurist_wizard: Im lucky i also naturally prone to being happy

hey1_1hey: My memory is pretty good its just I learn things at such an unbeleaibly slow pace

_3sphere: My memory is... ok? I don't remember shit at school though.

hey1_1hey: I take pride in the fact that I studied for the wrong exam and was the only one who passed in my class that one time 💪

hikukomoru: How many cards do you have saved

.wolfnacht: my short term memory is ass but there are things i would remember for years for long term

.wolfnacht: even with smallest details

hey1_1hey: Granted it was business and it was litterly just giving your opinion but hey-ho

.wolfnacht:

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416

.wolfnacht: what if chub goes down one day ? that's why i've got an archive


anathemaofmankind: Humans are generally better at a bunch of things more than computers and vice versa

.wolfnacht: The processed foods we consume daily is slop! bcz it's all processed by machines (and managed by humans) because someone's not working 15 hrs a day in bakery.

anathemaofmankind: So I suppose it's understandable that people back then thought art wasn't going to be automated.

Because computers don't posses "emotions"

anathemaofmankind: Also this is a weird thing to say when we can remember more than computers?

alejandrozarzuelo: We cannot remember billions of chess positions

Chess was solved by brute force, not organically like Go

anathemaofmankind: Doesn't AlphaZero use the same thing as Go?

anathemaofmankind: People who like AI art are "little piggies" now apparently

gamerbath: aside from that, he's right

gamerbath: looking at a hyperrealistic drawing made by a human is much cooler than looking at one from 4o, even if they look the same

gamerbath: but that's just art

trent_k: > STOP HAVING FUN <a:CE_aRage:738098694389366845>

anathemaofmankind: One day, AI will become better than all programmers

anathemaofmankind: And then programmers will mald instead of artists

gamerbath: programming isn't an art form. I don't appreciate anything when I look at my code

anathemaofmankind: THIS CODE IS SOULLESS

trent_k: When us codecels get automated I'm gonna become a cop. I'll be shooting tear gas canisters at your mom's head while she's protesting in favor of commie bullshit like "I'm hungry and my teeth hurt"

trent_k: That's a skill issue then

.wolfnacht: MOST HUMANS ARE SOUL'LESS

anathemaofmankind: I wonder how long these people would continue to seethe

anathemaofmankind: They do realize it's not going away?

anathemaofmankind: No matter how much they bitch and whine about it

spicy.lemonade: "lets poison the data"

spicy.lemonade: they really think itl work

.wolfnacht: are Anti-AI bros gonna use five D's on AI bros, or AI bros gonna use it on Anti's ?

alejandrozarzuelo: why

alejandrozarzuelo: if you cannot know the difference

spicy.lemonade: doesnt look cooler but its cool to know it was made by hands

alejandrozarzuelo: then there is no difference except for the creator

gamerbath: yea but that's the difference

anathemaofmankind: What if anti AI discourse is just a psyop to distract normies from looking into AI weapons development like Palantir

alejandrozarzuelo: the creator is only one among the thousands who will appreciate or loathe a piece of art

anathemaofmankind: So instead of being like "OH NO THIS IS SKYNET", it's more like "Meh it's just slop not a big deal"

alejandrozarzuelo: personally I like that soon, not yet but soon, art will be out of the human labor force

alejandrozarzuelo: it will be an explosion in art

aero447: NO!

alejandrozarzuelo: heck, we are limited by the fact that we need to ask the AI for it, the real game changer will be when the AI does art autonomously by itdelf

aero447: Bad MichMach.

gamerbath: what would you appreciate more, a heartfelt handwritten letter from a close friend, or an identical letter generated instantly by an AI? You still recieve the same thing, but here the creator makes a big difference.

aero447: https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-lie-false-phony-misinformation-gif-12492198651992672686

alejandrozarzuelo: i cannot know the difference so i appreciate both equally


.wolfnacht: hoping 2.5 flash thinking would be on par with sonnet-3.7 thinking

maintcrew: best vibes currently in order: grok 3, sonnet-3.5, gippity 4.5

.wolfnacht: and simple flash would be 4.5 preview

ai9708: that is because no model is "smart" yet

ai9708: but still cool it beats the other models in benchmarks

maintcrew: i really dont wanna get into the "they are just auto completers bro they dont think" rn

.wolfnacht: try it for writing stories, clearly better than anything else rn.

maintcrew: for sure but im not a stories writer guy

ai9708: well i dont think it is black and white like that

clevermoniker: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1185322173708128406/1354372307887587443/gary_2.png?ex=67e50d01&is=67e3bb81&hm=27af5b51cbe77420a29833cfec3a24e2c998660aa659b03a177ba1f0f3c63a0d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

sarik0497: Promise? <:WalidPray:800412164891476018>

a1c4p0ne: 2.5 pro global average 82%

a1c4p0ne: On live bench wow

spicy.lemonade: 6% jump

spicy.lemonade: nice

spicy.lemonade: 3.0 thinking wil be insane

spicy.lemonade: def comming this year

a1c4p0ne: 100% next?

spicy.lemonade: or 2.5 ultra

a1c4p0ne: Imagine 2.5 deep research

zoermena: I wish Gemini had a better UI

spicy.lemonade: i like it

maintcrew:

memlaswaif: don't show this to destrucules

sarik0497: Please tell me you told it to say that <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>

fractalcomputer: Coal alert.

ldj: True lol

https://x.com/sama/status/1904921537884676398?s=46

sarik0497: AI nowadays makes me think of Data from Star Trek and that whole “Am I sentient?” scene in the courtroom.

zoermena: I will start praying for Sam Altman

sarik0497: If Sam Altman actually does what he claims, I shall personally walk up to him, grovel before him, and beg for forgiveness.

maintcrew:

maintcrew: bro wants a hit list 😭

.wolfnacht: give us O3 pro(high) to use for free atleast with 100 limits a day and then we'll think.

joaoluz19: How to not love this guy lol

sarik0497: Ngl, I did doubt OpenAI after 4.5. But no more.

spicy.lemonade: Never doubt openAI

joaoluz19: Cool, now Chinese image gen when

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/copy-paste-paste-copy-ctrl-c-ctrl-v-gif-12913156

hey1_1hey: I got 5 @s in this server

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976


futurist_wizard: Not a judgement

himekokatagiri: Not yet!!!

hey1_1hey: What does this say about me then. Since I mostly had girl friends <:suseye:1187461162024046703>

hikukomoru: Mmm yea I can see how I can seem boyish

_3sphere: You're a girl?

hey1_1hey: No hes a 43 year old man

hikukomoru: I thought I made it clear I'm a 50 year old bald divorced bulgarian cuckold?

.wolfnacht: u cannot rewire the biology, hence i found that cloning better humans is more ethical

wellmeaningalien: youre gay!

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715

hey1_1hey: Bi, but sure. Lets go with that

wellmeaningalien: see

wellmeaningalien: spot on

hey1_1hey: I dont even act gay either. I am just autistic

himekokatagiri: I'm glad the people in this discord don't have a say in how scientific progress is conducted because jesus

.wolfnacht: girls in singularity sewer ? 😳

hikukomoru: Prolly trans or smth idk bruh

hey1_1hey: Nah big manly man innit 💪

hikukomoru: Figure yourself out cuz youre confusing me

hey1_1hey: Theres like 4 here bruh

hey1_1hey: I need ASI to do that

himekokatagiri: Every man has once dreamed of being cute

hey1_1hey: I barley understand myself

_3sphere: Once? ❌

hey1_1hey: I dont gotta dream aperntly

.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

hikukomoru: Awesome we're back to trans converstions on the Singularity server

hey1_1hey: Fuck

hikukomoru: Thanks Mushroom Man/Girl/Whatever

hey1_1hey: Its all the trans people running the show

.wolfnacht: Fractal incoming....

hey1_1hey: You started this

himekokatagiri: 🚬

hikukomoru: Fractal ban all transes immediately

hey1_1hey: Nah hes all tucked up into bed

hey1_1hey: prob

.wolfnacht: transhuman 😳  with 2000 implants

hey1_1hey: Fractal if you ban Komoru I'll give you a picture of my cute petite femboy hands

wellmeaningalien: Komoru arent you trans yourself

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715


spicy.lemonade: eh

alejandrozarzuelo: nah i dont think so, grok 3.5 wont be better than o3

spicy.lemonade: nothing google couldnt do

alejandrozarzuelo: sure but it is the best (or tied) model for math proofs now iirc

spicy.lemonade: performs worse than 2.5 on some subjects

spicy.lemonade: performs worse on aime

alejandrozarzuelo: hmm i see

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, yeah we are all waiting for r2

alejandrozarzuelo: i wonder what is taking them so long

spicy.lemonade: i think its more of a proof of concept model

spicy.lemonade: "if we train model on alot of lean itl get better at proofs"

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: deepseek doesn't do release schedules, they only release the model when it is ready

spicy.lemonade: leonardo devinci designed flying machines in 1487

spicy.lemonade: we achived flight 1903

spicy.lemonade: the principles were similar

spicy.lemonade: designs more or less the same

spicy.lemonade: 416 years appart

spicy.lemonade: we can apply the same to dyson sphere

spicy.lemonade: i believe we already have the general idea for most scifi things today

spicy.lemonade: and they will exist

spicy.lemonade: we just have a flawed or vague idea as of now

aero447: Infinite money hack.

aero447:

aero447: <@750270494615404544>

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I removed your ignored and this is what I get to witness <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>

alejandrozarzuelo: that would never be able to fly

alejandrozarzuelo: it is different

spicy.lemonade: orithcopter could fly I believe

spicy.lemonade: well

spicy.lemonade: glide

spicy.lemonade: no human could generate the energy needed to sustain flight

alejandrozarzuelo: we know how a dyson sphere would be built, and we are certain about the how, when, what to do

alejandrozarzuelo: we understand completely the physics of it

spicy.lemonade: we are?

alejandrozarzuelo: we just lack the infrastructure needed

alejandrozarzuelo: its not like leonardo who didnt know about lift

alejandrozarzuelo: mathematically

spicy.lemonade: I feel like we need a few solar power breakthroughs etc

spicy.lemonade: i mean sure

spicy.lemonade: well what about mind uploading


futurist_wizard: Im semi sure for purposes of grunt programming or the entertainment space near future AI will be rather impactful

st.sioux: it's already very impactful for boilerplate code generation

st.sioux: just kind of expensive

st.sioux: can't rely on free models if you're a business

zonchao: https://x.com/Hangsiin/status/1909574683500200173?

hikukomoru: What about Gemini? It's pretty cheap and great at code

zonchao: wtf do they have

futurist_wizard: Mira handing out shares

futurist_wizard: I have a theory about these small labs with notable people and absurd start up valuations are rugpulls

metaldragon01: They have a good idea about how humans will interact with new upcoming models

zoermena: Holy shit

zoermena: 22 degrees instead of 32? I’m so blessed

st.sioux: with gemini there are also more considerations like ecosystem lock in but they are becoming a good option too

st.sioux: like a lot of teams use aws or azure and integrating google cloud is jsut too messy

hikukomoru: Who are you talking abt

hikukomoru: Oh nvm you mean Mira

otub: talent

metaldragon01: Sama is absolutely cracked at identifying real talent

professorheaven: Is this lab trying to achieve AGI as well?

metaldragon01: Nope

metaldragon01: https://thinkingmachines.ai/

hey1_1hey: https://x.com/togethercompute/status/1909697122372378908

hey1_1hey: Yo

hey1_1hey: Is this real?

metaldragon01: Yes

metaldragon01: https://www.deepcogito.com/research/cogito-v1-preview

metaldragon01: This feels more impressive to me though

metaldragon01: Both pretty great tbh!

clevermoniker: 72 MMLU at 3B <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>

metaldragon01: Yeaaap

clevermoniker: wished they also had GPQA score

clevermoniker: 8B at 81 MMLU when the 8B distill is 70?

clevermoniker: <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>

clevermoniker: if this is real this is a big deal

metaldragon01: Same but that 3b absolutely cracked

metaldragon01: They are going to keep upgrading them too

metaldragon01: We are getting close to rapid self improvement pipelines tbh

metaldragon01: Esp with these new methods that scale ambiguous things like writing quality ect that can generalize

metaldragon01:

metaldragon01: They post gpqa for the 70b so looks like the method scales well


metaldragon01: Broooooo

zoermena: No way

anathemaofmankind: https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

metaldragon01: Going mainstream fast

zoermena: Not fast enough

anathemaofmankind: True

zoermena: But I do like feeling like I’m one of the privileged

anathemaofmankind: I want Asmongold and Moist Critikal talking about this

zoermena: Those dudes suck all they do is hate and talk about bad things happening

zoermena: What happened to good news

anathemaofmankind: Is there a single popular channel who only talks about good news?

zoermena: AI channels <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

.histic:

drewsni: Pls no I’m enjoying being able to hog the compute

brain4brain: https://x.com/apollonator3000/status/1904999339983819129?t=1M8LntxpF4AcVpq32i1-Ww&s=19

drewsni: Blackwell goes brrrrrr

.histic: slop thumbnails

.histic: but not bad

zoermena: This

brain4brain: It's the second  renaissance

brain4brain: The future is here

.histic: i'm so tempted in buying the $20 sub

hikukomoru: Oh my god bro not Assmangold and Critikal

anathemaofmankind: Well they got a lot of views

zoermena: The best 20 dollars you could ever spend in the 21 first century

drewsni: No joke I could see them pausing subs for a week

anathemaofmankind: Do it bro

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

futurist_wizard: Critikal be like 'dur dis scawry  dur anyway see ya'

.histic: 😬 so tempted

anathemaofmankind: Don't forget the deadpan childish jokes

.histic: i do, i just kind of want to wait until GPT-5 comes out

zoermena: I almost spit my drink holy fuck 😂

anathemaofmankind: You realize the image gen could get nerfed if you wait too long?

Nerfs have happened before

.histic: also, my paycheck is biweekly, and i already spent a lot of dumb stuff <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

futurist_wizard: Asmongold be like 'dur AI women games bad woke altgayman dur' either way you aren't getting insightful commentary

.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1905069027858448667
is he speaking to me?

zoermena: This, say goodbye to copyrighted characters or decent semi nsfw

.histic:

anathemaofmankind: People watch Asmongold to validate their own biases not get insightful commentary


hey1_1hey: Yeah

st.sioux: not so hype

hey1_1hey:

hikukomoru: Not impressed at all

spicy.lemonade: how

hikukomoru: Soooo disappointing

shirethedreamer: worse on polyglot than 01 or 03 mini

hey1_1hey: Better than Llama 4 🥀

literallyvarane: It’s pretty impressive ngl.

spicy.lemonade: its a base model

spicy.lemonade: 💔

shirethedreamer: yeah i know
but 2 gens after a base model it should euqate a reasoner based off of previous gen

spicy.lemonade: not 2 gens tho

hikukomoru: You know it's bad when you have to compare it to Llama 4

spicy.lemonade: o3 mini high was 2 months ago

shirethedreamer: 4o -> 4.5 -> 4.1

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/smiling-excited-laughing-creepy-gif-14492358

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: its just a distil

hey1_1hey: You were hyping it up and it turned out to be the same as llama 3

hey1_1hey: Pipe down bruh

hikukomoru: I learned my lesson
Never trusting meta again

shirethedreamer: they are not even comparing to gpt 4.5 which is sad af

callmepyro: It depends on the pricing. If nano is competative with flash-lite then that's very good

spicy.lemonade: they are

hey1_1hey:

spicy.lemonade: they did

hey1_1hey: Good

hey1_1hey: Zuck is hot but aperntly that doesn't transfer to model intelegence

spicy.lemonade: they literaly did

shirethedreamer: oh yeah i see it
good

spicy.lemonade: in all their graphs

hikukomoru: "Zuck is hot" 💀

literallyvarane: Just realized that the reason we might not get this in the app is because Altman previously said they’re not shipping non-CoT models moving forward.

hey1_1hey: Hotter than before*

literallyvarane: Perhaps that’s just an app restriction

callmepyro:

hey1_1hey: I mean yeah its cool. Nothing groudnbreaking tho

callmepyro: I wanna see the long context evals

callmepyro: NIAH is not a real long context eval


hikukomoru: That’s not true then
I did it like a few hours ago

memlaswaif: I haven't tested out much but it's default mode seems to be Ghibli now asked it generate few images without specifying it did it all in Ghibli style for no reason

zonchao: it is disabled randomly, the model is hallucinating content policies

_cloudost: I should ghibilify myself too before antis pressure openai to shut it

zoermena: Fuck it, me too.

zoermena: #metoo

memlaswaif: they don't care about randos on twitter having fits

zonchao: > Altman later elevated Pachocki to research director and privately promised both of them they could lead the research direction of the company, which led to months of lost productivity.

<@378996537704841216> slimy sama 😂

hikukomoru: Show us your pretty face

hey1_1hey: I gotta aswell

hey1_1hey: I would find a photo of me that I have saved but the trouble is I don't take photos. Not even of me, I just don't take photos of anything

hikukomoru: Show me your ugly face

zoermena: Hahaha

zoermena: Im to paranoid to share it

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-10371245960573455153

_cloudost: I also thought Sky voice wouldnt get taken down but all people on twitter and reddit were saying yes The voice does sound like scarlet, its a baseless accusation and then Scarlet saw a good opportunity to grab money from openAI,

hey1_1hey: Its ghiblfied anyway

_cloudost: these antis def have an impact

zonchao: > The board felt they couldn’t divulge that it had been Murati who had given them some of the most detailed evidence of Altman’s management failings. They had banked on Murati calming employees while they searched for a CEO. Instead, she was leading her colleagues in a revolt against the board.

😭😭

hikukomoru: Dw it probably won’t look too much like you

hikukomoru: Mine looks very simplified and changed my hair colour too

ailoveyoom: Share yours then 🥵

trent_k: feeling very bullish about gemini 2.5

trent_k: not a very good objective metric but

trent_k: it's very good at factorio optimization problems

trent_k: better than 3.7 sonnet thinking

archon.e: I love this

archon.e: You can get basically sota code generation for free now

archon.e: I have to say Gemini 2.5 pro live performance in my native language Malayalam was a revelation

archon.e: No other model came close at holding a decent convo so far. This one nailed it

memlaswaif: it did sound like her tho

memlaswaif: they mimicked her voice in "her"

memlaswaif: regardless that was just a stunt

memlaswaif: openAI knew they were probably gonna have to put it down they just did it for the promotion

apology0759: I just chatted with ChatGPT.

apology0759: I felt terrible, and I vented to her and let her pretend to be my girlfriend.

apology0759: It is really good; she is much better than humans.

memlaswaif: why r u back

otub:

hikukomoru: I feel shy now because Alejandro and Futurist Hill called me a boring basic bitch


drewsni: I’m about to put it to the real test tho and see if it can vibe code a working radar that uses the rawest form of radar data

trojan09205: whats the difference between vibe coding and guided AI augmented coding

drewsni: What I do I guess is just guided but I think there’s people who legitimately don’t look at any of the code and just go with it

trojan09205: yeah that i find ridiculous lol. im just imagining your use case with raw data ingestion. you definitely need to feed it schemas and investigate nuances in the data yourself before asking the AI to build with it

drewsni: From what I understand if vibe coding, it’s people that actually don’t have any experience and need the agent to do everything for them. Like they’d have to ask “how do I run this python file” type questions

drewsni: Yeah, I also like to at least be constantly learning while the agent is working. If it does something I don’t quite recognize I always ask for clarification and a reason

drewsni: I was really bad at coding when ChatGPT came out, and I like to think that I’ve greatly improved since then. Kinda the best time to really grind learning to code if you think about it. Got the basics/fundementals with gpt 3.5 turbo, expanded when GPT 4 came out and made an iPhone app, learned databases when I was trying to figure out RAG, got way better at web dev when 3.5 sonnet came out, and now I can train my own computer vision models from scratch using my own data

drewsni: All in like 2.5 years, feels good

drewsni: And I can’t forget my magnum opus, the geoguessr benchmark <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

trojan09205: Thats fantastic brother we all have different paths to learning software development and there is no right or wrong as long as you actually learn to develop the skills that you will keep

trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/gn-homies-gif-26916903

drewsni: o7

st.sioux:

otub: https://tenor.com/view/apple-cat-cat-with-apple-apple-with-cat-cute-cat-gif-6092596570848924427

brain4brain: Next week will be interesting

spicy.lemonade: 2.5 ultra is not next week

spicy.lemonade: its may 20th

spicy.lemonade: and prob not even then

metaldragon01: Ultra if it's real will drop with the new subs

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/davidad/status/1918059244680552892?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

joaoluz19: Guys say good animes I have only 3 left of vacation 😦

joaoluz19: Will watch full metal

joaoluz19: That image is fire

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: still gets this wrong

spicy.lemonade: not a single model on the market

himekokatagiri:

spicy.lemonade: has got the correct answer to this yet

a1c4p0ne: Wait for o3 pro

a1c4p0ne: Or grok 3.5 prob gets it

spicy.lemonade: o3 pro is just o3 pass 1 though

spicy.lemonade: youd think o4 mini high would get it

spicy.lemonade: o3 failed it multiple times

a1c4p0ne: Let’s see how grok 3.5 does next week

clevermoniker: do we know exact release date?

a1c4p0ne: Nope

clevermoniker: just next week? hm i see

ldj: hmm, did Gemini 2.5 Pro just accidentally leak its thinking to me

metaldragon01: This via api?

ldj: Yes


futurist_wizard: But it does work

zoermena: Not worth it, I've already taken the role of femboy.

.wolfnacht: i used to smoke marlboro reds. like 7-8 a day until i stopped 2 months ago

wellmeaningalien: im definitely not strong minded im straight edge but thats because ive never picked up a bottle of alcohol yet

futurist_wizard: How tall are you

hikukomoru: Brother look around
There's nothing more embarassing you can say

maintcrew: hop on the addis chat

zoermena: 5'4

wellmeaningalien: soon man but tbh im more thinking strattera and shit

maintcrew: u never drank in ur life?!?

hey1_1hey: Talk about it, I take these 200mg caffine tablets when I need to work or I will litterly just start thinking about the most random shit when working to the point I cant concentrate

wellmeaningalien: maybe get strattera + a non stimulant

wellmeaningalien: nope

wellmeaningalien: never ever

.wolfnacht: Now i want to start again, maybe it'll fix my worse adhd

futurist_wizard: Yeah I would've converted to femboyism at that height, im a foot taller than you

hey1_1hey: Is there an addy dealer in wales 👉 👈

wellmeaningalien: damn bro ur gonna get like a heart attack with that

maintcrew: stop taking tablets caffeine is meant to be enjoyed NERD

zoermena: KEEP AT IT COOL

hey1_1hey: 200mg is nothing

maintcrew: why u asking me ?!?!!

wellmeaningalien: YEAH LIKE AUSSIE LEMONADE MONSTER

wellmeaningalien: LETS GO

hey1_1hey: No fuck off

hey1_1hey: Twas' a joke you autist

wellmeaningalien: dont u talk like multiple

hey1_1hey: 1

hey1_1hey: Just one

wellmeaningalien: ty bro

zoermena: Even so I live in Mexico so it's not a death sentence as it is in the US.

wellmeaningalien: cool

futurist_wizard: Yeah, but i also could not tell people and keep it all to myself

hey1_1hey: I tried taking 2 at once one time 💀

hey1_1hey: Never again

st.sioux: is strength the power to resist, or the power to reclaim yourself after losing control?

maintcrew: being a femboy isnt a death sentence in the US lmfao

zoermena: What does it improve even.

hey1_1hey: Good to know

maintcrew: its the country with the most femboys after poland