metaldragon01: The Chinese Labs have been far more open

.coldcall: Its not going to get banned because its not feasible to do so.

.coldcall: They can't even ban TikTok <:catcry:1187466366006087862>

sieventer: Digital world it's pretty difficult to ban

rayanquitplayin: Haven’t heard much from Copilot recently

zoermena:

sieventer: 2030

zoermena: Do you still have plus?

sieventer: Nope

sieventer: I'm happy with Google AI Studio

sieventer: They are making each day more and more UI friendly

.histic: dang, i got to use all my o4-mini-high outputs before 12

zoermena: Nice

zoermena: I really like the new models

zoermena: The search feature upgrade is honestly incredible, it’s like a quick deep research

professorheaven: MMLU pro and GPQA diamond are very close to saturation so those ones aren’t too valuable anymore. HLE and Frontier are far from saturation

.histic: yeah, the chain of thought for searches is a good ui update too

.histic: first time an o-series OpenAI model actually said what its model name is.
all the previous ones didn't when asked.

zoermena: Something cool I tried was to change my system prompt so that it mentioned the last 3 things we discussed in other chats and it does that with great accuracy sometimes providing the time of that chat which is quite crazy.

zoermena: It’s a weird quirk and perhaps not that useful but it surprised me.

.histic: the feds are spying on you! 😱

zoermena: That’s interesting! I dont know how knowing about my abdominal pain helps them but that’s cool!

zoermena: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

.histic: i think it'd be quite funny if the NSA had a backdoor to OpenAI and saw all of the crazy ass chats users have.

.histic: i wouldn't want to see that shit lol

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1912690850292768951?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

zoermena: I used to have “worse” chats in 2022/2023 back when I did jailbreaking. Now it’s just NPC stuff.

okbut: Predictions for the Gemini 4/22 release?

.histic: bruh, i'm just talking to o4-mini-high like a normal conversation and i still haven't reached my rate limit wtf

.histic: wtf

.histic: omg

a1c4p0ne: Do that with o3

.histic: i didn't know o4 and o3 can actually SEARCH for images

.histic: like i gave it an anime character's face and it could identity who it was

zoermena: There was this dragonfly model IIRC which apparently is an improved coder. I wouldn’t be shocked if it got shipped.

.histic: 😨

a1c4p0ne: It can find the restaurant you’re in based on a picture of the menu

zoermena: A cooler use case is to give you the reviews of the restaurant in a more digestible output which is better than what you’d find in Google maps or something.

zoermena: Helping you quickly figure out how healthy a menu item is based on its name or something i dont know.

.histic: rip


okbut: I still hold it more that he's cranky about music AI

okbut: This is his soapbox moment

st.sioux: literally the first time i try to use grok

_cloudost: He's virtue signaling and knows he will get a lot of likes if he talks against AI

On TikTok there's a huge number of third world Islamic users, Americans love making content in favor of these Islamic users, I legit saw many clips of Americans adoring Osama Bin Laden and support Islamic terrorist organization

mihrcelium: Suno is practically *there*. It's in its V4 era. A few more months...

mihrcelium: I am honestly shocked Suno isn't getting an absolutely massive social media storm backlash given what it can do as of the last few months.

okbut: I hope the comments = image gens with better captions

anathemaofmankind: Just nuke the world at this point

anathemaofmankind: Flood the planet

ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/how-bro-felt-after-writing-that-how-bro-felt-alpha-wolf-alpha-alpha-meme-gif-307456636039877895

anathemaofmankind: I'm gonna generate myself in the art style of emo wolf

spicy.lemonade:

_cloudost: https://fxtwitter.com/yashar/status/1724942399431217457

_cloudost: They will do anything just to get likes from islamists

okbut: He also duets every girl doing a suggestive dance to his music
His algo is probably gross

anathemaofmankind: So some Americans think 9/11 was justified now.

I'm guessing they're all left wing

okbut: Some Americans think the phone emergency number 911 is because of 9/11

okbut: Kek

_cloudost: They're left, I used to be ok with American woke but these clips

brain4brain: Most anti-AI are somehow left wing, while pro-AI goes both way of right and left wing

anathemaofmankind: Yes because the woke crowd are the biggest virtue signalers

anathemaofmankind: They will leap at the first chance to pander and attach themselves to a moral high ground

.histic: <@471334973379706900> Mutahar wants China to win the race clearly. OpenAI's rational is sensible. China nor any other country will follow the rules of his 'ethics'.

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: china will be worse for AI art

spicy.lemonade: lol

brain4brain: The rise of AI hate really shows that to go viral you have to be retarded

spicy.lemonade: china will make less censored

oooooooooog: those dont look that similar though

st.sioux: yes

okbut: Extreme progressivism has become the opposite

spicy.lemonade: i think they do

spicy.lemonade: one has much more shading than other

anathemaofmankind: Don't you mean more censored

anathemaofmankind: Wut

st.sioux: watch chinese scammers start making deepfake porn and scam crypto schemes using celebrity voices and shit

spicy.lemonade: no

st.sioux: they actually dont care

spicy.lemonade: china will be less censored

spicy.lemonade: open sourced


spacetimetsunami: Are yall generating via Sora or 4o rn

wellmeaningalien:

zoermena: Show him show him

hikukomoru: Sorry I pinged you

technocake.: MISSING

hey1_1hey: Do what you want, I am just a person on the internet. I cant force you to do anything

alejandrozarzuelo: what was the issue

wellmeaningalien:

zoermena: Pass the prompt

futurist_wizard: An orgy with both your hands don't count as a threesome

hey1_1hey: I get to hot swap like I am a nascar driver

maintcrew: <@688807313015963693> quick what is martingales theorem

wellmeaningalien:

hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693>, <@439829942310666250> is coming out as trans or smth idk

.histic:

alejandrozarzuelo: by name idk what that is

wellmeaningalien: "an alien in the style of claude monet"

maintcrew: youre FIRED

zoermena: Thanks! 👍

wellmeaningalien: np

hey1_1hey: Hard to explain, best way I can explain it is you look in the mirror and the person looking back at you isn't you just a person looking back at you

technocake.: claude my beloved

alejandrozarzuelo: dude, do you think i know every name of every random bloke who wrote anything?

.histic: this is what <@505313122802728972> looks like

hikukomoru: Driving with a mouse 🔥

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: Absolutly not

hikukomoru: ⁉

futurist_wizard: Asian

alejandrozarzuelo: ok so the regression to the mean theorem

zoermena: AMAZING PASS THE PROMPT I BEG YOU

hey1_1hey: They are like weird short gremlin vibes

.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> i dont know

maintcrew: i dont know either just some guy was using it as an example on twitter

its some representation theory shit i just wanted to put u on the spot

hikukomoru: I am not Asian bro 😭

wellmeaningalien:

.histic: wait, what are you?

hikukomoru: I look like this actually

alejandrozarzuelo: its the regression to the mean theorem dude, its very easy

hikukomoru: I'm Portuguese


gamerbath: whatever popcorn pankes is

st.sioux: i can generate videos through vertexai but not aistudio

st.sioux: weird

ailoveyoom: Did you already ate some or is that the whole portion they gave you?

ldj: That’s the whole portion

ailoveyoom: Or is the shrimp just super big

ldj: They are big

ldj: A single piece is as big as my phone

ailoveyoom: Worth it then 🤤

fractalcomputer: Takoyaki.

fractalcomputer: You had the shrimp.

fractalcomputer: Shame.

ldj: Ketchup packet for scale

fractalcomputer: Shrimps have a ton of potential, I feel like.

drewsni: That’s Costco panko shrimp <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

st.sioux: the cockroach of the sea

fractalcomputer: Blessed are the meek.

ldj: I agree, we should buy the dip

retrerox: Just make a new account with temp mail services

.wolfnacht: i need the new flash nowwww

gamerbath: https://twitter.com/AnthropicAI/status/1910035641242640501

gamerbath: claude max

gamerbath:

drewsni: I’ll let someone tell me but if it can output 1000 LOC at once I’ll buy it

okbut: <:monkaS:408109232496312330>

wellmeaningalien: google stay winning

.wolfnacht: indeed

https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/ironwood-tpu-age-of-inference/

.wolfnacht:

literallyvarane: How you have 2729372937384 in funding but making your people pay $16 for some rice

drewsni: I’ll wait for the semianalysis post before I make up my mind

okbut: Oh fuck bud

ldj: It’s a cafe that the public can use too, not just OAI employees

ldj: It maybe gets charged to OAI whenever an employee eats there

_wwwwww: Mutant

_wwwwww: What happened?

okbut: Over 75 countries called USA to talk about the tariffs, Trump paused them until they're worked out

okbut: Always buy the dip

drewsni: Nvidia is up 3 AMDs right now lol

okbut: ?

drewsni: Yes


hikukomoru: Zaddy 🔥

zoermena: That’s weird I’ve seen some trademarked content I think

hey1_1hey: Dont give me ideas for my next generation

spicy.lemonade: ai is only good for replacing things people dont wanna do like office jobs coding and stem-artists

hikukomoru: Please replace everyone 🙏 🙏

sarik0497: It refuses me everytime.

It just doesn’t like me, I guess 😦

.histic:

hey1_1hey: I mean I like drawing, programming and most of STEM. You don't see me crying about how AI is better than me. I am relived when it is

spicy.lemonade: yeah

hey1_1hey: Why is there no horse cock?

spicy.lemonade: as a competative programmer

spicy.lemonade: who lost his only hobby

spicy.lemonade: that got him noteriety

spicy.lemonade: im happy

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/emoji-turning-smiling-smile-laughing-gif-25966841

sarik0497: Don’t give MichMach ideas

st.sioux: coding is so boring its the worst part of the job as a swe

spicy.lemonade: the value of my ranking went to zero in a day

st.sioux: like

hey1_1hey: "Please create an anatomically accurate horse"

technocake.: spoken like a retard

.histic:

drewsni: YOOOOOOOOOO

drewsni: <@1068159407671754824>

st.sioux: what do u think is worse? clients

st.sioux: lol

hikukomoru: Give this guy his own anime 🔥

drewsni:

spicy.lemonade: atleast i can say i was top 50 in the world for golang in 2023

hey1_1hey: Give him a break 😭

st.sioux: i saw a fart compilation with this guy

technocake.: clients is the worst part, I love coding

hey1_1hey: We got image AGI before text AGI

st.sioux: fair

tors.exe: Someone Make tomboy !

spicy.lemonade: bro

spicy.lemonade: someone try out arc agi

spicy.lemonade: and chess

hey1_1hey: Or femboy

hey1_1hey: I mean either or really


encapsulation: This starts to happen around 2,300 lines of code

encapsulation: That's where I start to have sometimes have issues with GPT

encapsulation: Gemini just keeps cranking though

literallyvarane: I mean my 2025 predictions say I think Google is winning by eoy, but until we see them *aiming* for frontier if I’m very cautious.

metaldragon01: Haven't seen nebula reports?

literallyvarane: Nah

metaldragon01: Clear sota google model on lymsys

ailoveyoom: Prolly cheaper too 🥵

metaldragon01: The only question is how long they will hold the lead

literallyvarane: Maybe. Idk the fact you only get 50 uses of Gemini 2 pro per day makes me think that’s an expensive model by their standards.

metaldragon01: Less expensive than 4o

metaldragon01: 2.5 won't be o3 level

literallyvarane: Do we have api for 2 pro?

metaldragon01: Yes

metaldragon01: Sorta

literallyvarane: *pricing I mean

metaldragon01: Don't think so

clevermoniker: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> <:ez:1136267305521774634>

literallyvarane: Ye, idk. Idk I think 2 pro could be expensive. Probably not 4.5, but expensive

metaldragon01: 2.5 demand is going to be pretty high. Google trying to break into the app space with this release

metaldragon01: I just wonder if we are getting other features with it.

_3sphere: That actually worked? The brain isn't aligned to what's most useful, it just is the pile of emotional drives and memories that it is

literallyvarane: If it’s 2.5 with the tool use of 2flashing thinking+tools that’s a massive W.

ai9708: what worked for me were many things together

ai9708: this was just a part of it

ai9708: try to understand things better

ai9708: fear/worry is a reaction of our brain that tries to help us usually

ai9708: productive fear/worry its called

ai9708: but sometimes we get unproductive ones

ai9708: those never help

ai9708: of course you cant just turn them off

metaldragon01: Has memory access from reports and some reporting Astra access as well

ai9708: but first understand the difference

metaldragon01: Deepseek may have woke the giant

metaldragon01: It think less for simple questions

_3sphere: Even that is easier said than done when you're actually worrying

ai9708: i took antidepressants too though at the hight of the depression, should mention that

ai9708: i took high doses too

literallyvarane: Can’t WAIT for these performances graphs to be like 0.3% stronger in 1 out of 5 benchmarks

ai9708: yup, it does not work just like that


himekokatagiri: so if I refresh the page the guestbook resets then?

himekokatagiri: yeah

himekokatagiri: it resets

.histic: no way agi

spicy.lemonade: im feeling the agi

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acKYYwcxpGk

playstation.6: I just realized something specific

himekokatagiri: what did you realize?

playstation.6: japan

.histic: black magic

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrxJCOVsV1E

himekokatagiri: like this one yeah

himekokatagiri: japanese TV always uses this filter right

spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/vp7xoPeWzEw

.histic: OpenAI will have their naming figured out too

.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

.wolfnacht: that happend back at 28 march, an hour later when 2.5 pro was released

.wolfnacht: switch to staging branch.

.wolfnacht: release is always around 1-2 months late, while staging gets every model instantly *also depends when cohee will wake up and merge requests*

spicy.lemonade: where arc agi

spicy.lemonade: for new o3 and o4

spicy.lemonade: how come everyone wants to be slow asf when it comes to making openAI look good

.histic: making openai look bad*

.histic: <:hehe:1136619235662118983>

ailoveyoom: Everyone was gargling on OAI's balls as soon as o3 came out what do you mean

spicy.lemonade: dude

spicy.lemonade: 2.5 still

spicy.lemonade: hasnt been benchmarked

spicy.lemonade: on frontier math

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: how many weeks has it been

.histic: i think 2.5 pro will top frontier math, just slightly above o3.

.histic: seems like crackheads don't like Waymos

spicy.lemonade: basilisk will remember this

brain4brain: Is this real?

zoermena: Schizophrenia

.coldcall: Yes

.coldcall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

zoermena: Cool! Nightmare fuel before I go to bed

okbut: Newbie question, does lower temperature improve inference speed? Or is it in my head


rayanquitplayin: Are LLM vectors that same vectors studied in pre-calculus?

brain4brain: Kind of, probably

rayanquitplayin: I’ll ask ChatGPT

brain4brain: What should have been done since the beginning

brain4brain: Also watch 3blue1brown, very good video on LLM

rayanquitplayin: Bet

rayanquitplayin: I like to get my information from different sources, but you right, you can ask anything to ChatGPT

brain4brain: Help me choose the best one

brain4brain: If it’s hard topic enable search and reasoning, this one seems easy probably doesn’t need to

rayanquitplayin: Search just searches the internet and reasoning shows it’s thinking right?

brain4brain: I love pantheon so much

.wolfnacht: Okay, the user.....
But wait....
Hmm,....
Alternatively.....
Or......
In conclusion....
Wait there's more,.....
Finally,.....

rayanquitplayin: 1st

.0xunkn0wn: oh shit

.0xunkn0wn: guys

.0xunkn0wn: ya seen the new rubin chips?

.0xunkn0wn: and blackwell ultra

.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pFFh7v0ymA

.0xunkn0wn:

brain4brain: Need more data

.wolfnacht: Imagine having to sell your 1 kidney, two testicles and two legs, just to get a set of 25k each advooonced AI gpu.

rayanquitplayin: Do you have any Nvidia chips?

.0xunkn0wn: wdym

rayanquitplayin: Have you ever had an Nvidia GPU for your PC?

.0xunkn0wn: yes

rayanquitplayin: Yooooooo

rayanquitplayin: What do you use it for?

.0xunkn0wn: everything

rayanquitplayin: AI?

.0xunkn0wn: videos, gaming, creating games, browsing internet

.0xunkn0wn: i will prolly want to get a better gpu for AI or rent something lol

spicy.lemonade: you can regurgitate and still do usefull research

rayanquitplayin: Nice!

spicy.lemonade: most people dont come up with completly new ideas

.wolfnacht: I run my ai girlfriend on a 4bpw exl2 quant of a L3.3 finetune for erp.

.wolfnacht: On my 4090

.wolfnacht: With 16k ctx

rayanquitplayin: Enterprise Resource Planning

brain4brain: But you can’t invent new invention or make a game like go like Demis definition

.wolfnacht: Ofc she needs to do that


playstation.6: Will we have techno limps for as good as human limps in 2029 and all body implants?

.wolfnacht: it'll be uncensored (except taiwan) and more efficient so it'll be diamond for me. idc abt google or OpenAI anymore

st.sioux: techno simp

st.sioux: why dont u care about gogolo or openai anymore bb

.wolfnacht: they declared: Total Roleplayer and Smut Writer Death 😔

nsec: <@1316552597829586955>

nsec: <@1152183706849644615>

nsec: y r u frauds

nsec: against sacrifcing for the greater good

nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787>

nsec: give up your leg

nsec: u aint need it

spicy.lemonade: yes you do

nsec: <:pain:745576122221068318>

spicy.lemonade: deepseek will never be sota

spicy.lemonade: you indeed do care about openAi and google

nsec: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1227814510429995049/1365977180991131650

nsec: how much would u sacrifice

nsec: I wanna see the long text man's take

nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>

st.sioux: i dont havef any limbs anymore

st.sioux: i have sacrificed everything

st.sioux: i communicate through aura

_3sphere: Is is just me or are they increasing the 4o dick sucking even more over time 💀

aero447: Yes.

aero447:

_3sphere: Custom instructions were long overdue

fractalcomputer: Damn, dude, you've made such a brilliant, astute observation! Let me explore the implications of your profound discovery.

aero447: 😐

aero447:

fractalcomputer: Alright, the human seems to want me to answer his question. Let me explore what this means. He uses the words "yeye ass sycophant transformer" to describe me. Maybe this means he wants me to respond in a more colloquial manner? Let me call his mother a "fat bitch" and see if the user likes that.

himekokatagiri: What if it turned into a yandere instead

fractalcomputer: Your suggestion is profound!

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/honeycardi-doja-cat-gif-22917126

aero447: 👀

robert_46007: how can  I contact r/singularity  admins?  the "message mods"  on reddit didn't work  and I never got an answer.

ailoveyoom: This is a sign to move over to Gemini 😈

ailoveyoom: Gemini's a lot 'colder' in comparison but not as sycophantic

spicy.lemonade: just finished pantheon

spicy.lemonade: when do i become an imortal digital god that lives for 2 million years


wellmeaningalien: AI does not work on our human timeplane

wellmeaningalien: this is fire

wellmeaningalien: and not slop

wellmeaningalien: this is art

hikukomoru: I hope it gets here as soon as possible

hikukomoru: The sooner the better

spacetimetsunami: Then say goodbye to alignment

spacetimetsunami: Potentially

futurist_wizard: This will literally be 99% of feed by 2027

wellmeaningalien: that was a joke to begin with

destrucules: Y'all need to stop conceptualizing this as a moment. It's a process, and we're already pretty deep into it *now*

futurist_wizard: Alignment is a joke

wellmeaningalien: you really think we can control a being that we dont even know what it looks like yet

wellmeaningalien: or what it thinks

spacetimetsunami: So what are you expecting to become of humanity

spacetimetsunami: lol

wellmeaningalien: i dont know matt

destrucules: Alignment is not the same thing as control and arguably the two concepts are not even compatible in the first place

wellmeaningalien: it could become anything

wellmeaningalien: we could die or go to hell, or it could be pretty great

hikukomoru: Imo it’s already as aligned to human values as possible
Alignment or not, we still won’t be able to control it

wellmeaningalien: <:blobcatsip:1234865528204558346>

destrucules: An aligned AI, asked to kill a child, refuses
A controlled AI, asked to kill a child, complies

That is the difference

futurist_wizard: Ai is gonna conform to whatever it decides before and after our best efforts at aligning it

realelonmuskx: what u gon do lil bro

spacetimetsunami: Would you know this?

wellmeaningalien: idk bro

hikukomoru: Yeah I’m an expert

spacetimetsunami: Totally

wellmeaningalien: i'll do this

spacetimetsunami: We have some data on preferences but it’s all implicit values

spacetimetsunami: You can’t peer inside the boxes

hikukomoru: This is me btw

realelonmuskx: w rizz

spacetimetsunami: And once you have AIs really good at working on AIs values may change

wellmeaningalien: thanks elon <:CSMagni:694612757806317608>

_cloudost: There should be a platform specifically for AI entertainment but any person that posts low effort uncreative Videos will get their video blocked.

destrucules: When we see AIs acting up, exhibiting deceptive behaviors, exhibiting self preservation, and otherwise revealing their inner shoggoth, and *insodoing* they reveal themselves to have humanlike values and moral beliefs, then yes, we can and *must* take that seriously

_cloudost: In the future

futurist_wizard: Doesn't matter how well ants try and align a baby human, when it grows up it will determine its own rules to live by


alejandrozarzuelo: the vision without the action

alejandrozarzuelo: and thus, it is very easy to think about the roman empire

futurist_wizard: Men think about the roman empire too much

popsiclejohnithan: Yeah their pantheism kept the peace until Christianity forced them to adopt one single religion.

hey1_1hey: This held true then <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

nobodyisugly: *not enough

hey1_1hey: I think I've prob thought about the roman empire maybe 10 times in my entire life

hey1_1hey: Its just not something that pops into my head

popsiclejohnithan: We should just reform Rome smh.

popsiclejohnithan: Make the EU a new Rome.

futurist_wizard: You don't think about the roman empire because you are barely a man.

I don't think about the roman empire because its boring af.

We are not the same.

alejandrozarzuelo: the roman empire wasnt boring

alejandrozarzuelo: it was probably the most intereting empire before the industrial revolution

alejandrozarzuelo: there is a reason why everyone tried to be the new rome

popsiclejohnithan: What's so boring about it?

ldj:

_3sphere: I last thought about the roman empire about 2 days ago I think?

alejandrozarzuelo: EVEN THE BRITISH wanted to be the new rome and they are dirty germanics

alejandrozarzuelo: who didnt want to be the new rome?

The nazis because they hated their multiculturality trade aspect

what happened to the nazis? exactly

coincidence? I dont think so

popsiclejohnithan: Ah Germanic Rome, the HRE.

futurist_wizard: I'm not interested in empires and the rise and fall of them, it's just not very relevant to the here and now, imo

popsiclejohnithan: If you don't learn from History, you're doomed to repeat it.

alejandrozarzuelo: what about alien geopolitcs? thats gotta be interesting to you

futurist_wizard: Even worse...

alejandrozarzuelo: ive decided that you are a boring person

futurist_wizard: Alien politics consist of...

futurist_wizard: NOTHING

futurist_wizard: Do you mean mexican illegal alien politics? That's quite interesting

alejandrozarzuelo: in a good scifi setting they can be very interesting and completely differnt from modern geopolitcs and politics

popsiclejohnithan: I actually wonder how politics would work on a galactic scale.

popsiclejohnithan: If it would even be politics by then.

precariousworlds.: Used to be really into Roman history but people sometimes overvalue it
Most real breakthroughs in philosophy, political organisation, science occurred in Greece. The real triumph of Rome was that it managed to export and apply these ideas on a mass scale. It's insanely impressive how the Romans formed a state-like entity with regulated borders and governance over such a massive and diverse region. So impressive that the memory of Rome dominated European identity until the 1500s, and stories of the power of Rome spread throughout the known world (even fucking Tibet adopted the title 'Caesar' for a great king)

However there should be more emphasis in western history placed on early modern England imo. From 1688 - late 1800s England basically singlehandedly built the entirety of modern civilisation, from scratch. The U.S. is basically just the continuation of the English enlightenment of the 18th Century, that moved across the Atlantic. This is the real legacy that I think more people should look to

But as for aesthetics it would be cool for more classical Roman architecture and symbolism to be adopted in the EU, as a successor state.

precariousworlds.: 🏴

futurist_wizard: Alien politics would be too alien to us, it wouldn't make sense to us on any level, even if an alien actually came down and tried to explain it to us

alejandrozarzuelo: Je pense que tu t'oublies de qui a reelement creé le monde moderne

alejandrozarzuelo: hon hon hon vive la revolution!

popsiclejohnithan: I'm sure they would be smart enough to dumb it down to our level.

precariousworlds.: romans were legendary but equally interesting were the early Islamic caliphates, Persian Empire, entirety of Chinese civilisation, Mongols, the fucking Spanish Empire come on, Mughals, Aztecs, Incas

alejandrozarzuelo: the modern world wasnt created by the british, if you need to give the title to an early modern civilization it would be France

fractalcomputer: Tu devrais écrire mieux.


joaoluz19: https://x.com/consulted_graph/status/1914152762922905704

trojan09205: chatgpt is such a bro

.wolfnacht: dataset OAI trained their models on is peak, the only problem i have with gemini is they all lack the vibe.

trojan09205: yeah agreed. well said

trojan09205: i also have a personality system prompt on openAI web ui that works great for my bro vibe

trojan09205: i actually had no idea what ubuntu meant in the context of this random show on HBO 😄

brain4brain: How does this relates to Mira’s thinking machine, what is Jimmy trying to say

brain4brain: I was fooled by the chair: https://x.com/patience_cave/status/1914545876841979950?s=61

brain4brain: Damn it, the chair is evolving

spicy.lemonade:

brain4brain: Where can I pay to see this:

https://x.com/rocketjohnsen/status/1914427240261226803?s=61

joaoluz19: This is incredible, technology is about making human beings experience things beyond the ordinary.

joaoluz19: Big

spicy.lemonade: ASI will make us experience 4d

spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/biblically-accurate-angel-be-not-afraid-biblically-accurate-angel-feather-star-gif-5575024403102584503

joaoluz19: It would be amazing too

spicy.lemonade: brain might overload

spicy.lemonade: you might never be the same

joaoluz19: When I see something completely out of the ordinary as if it came from another world I like to use the analogy of it being like "seeing a whole new color"

joaoluz19: This is scary ngl

joaoluz19: Imagine who we would be if we could hypothetically multiply our intelligence by millions of times a la Kurzweil

spicy.lemonade: i dont wanna do that

spicy.lemonade: not yet

spicy.lemonade: give me 1 million years of being  fun dumb human

spicy.lemonade: before i ascend

spicy.lemonade: knowledge is a curse

spicy.lemonade: what if i realize existance is pain and end it all or something

spicy.lemonade: give me a good 100 million years of fdvr

spicy.lemonade: then ill be able to ascend

joaoluz19: I think we would already know who we would be before transcendence, since it would be programmed, or at least we would have the probability models

okbut: >Implying deterministic being

spicy.lemonade: ive made it my life mission

spicy.lemonade: to be in the room where it happens

spicy.lemonade: in the road to superintelligence

spicy.lemonade: know some deepmind and oAI researchers and my friend is friends with ege and other people at epoch/ their new startup and berkeley a great place to form such connections

spicy.lemonade: need to BE there

spicy.lemonade: like a reporter or general watching during manhattan project

spicy.lemonade: not lame civilian

spicy.lemonade: its so nice to be in san fran

spicy.lemonade: i can see the future here


spicy.lemonade: openAI should train o4 on 4d space

spicy.lemonade: or 5d

ldj: bad y-axis, here is better:

spicy.lemonade: could develop new emergent capabilities

spicy.lemonade: thoughts?

spicy.lemonade: like imagine newton could think in 4d

ldj: and this:

spicy.lemonade: we can bake that into AI easily

spicy.lemonade: wth 4d vector space

spicy.lemonade: and rl

ldj: how do you know they haven't already

ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>

spicy.lemonade: honestly i dont thnk they have

spicy.lemonade: if that was the case

spicy.lemonade: some of its reasoning would be odd

spicy.lemonade: especialy for geometry

.coldcall: <:SmartFloppa:1136264103598501900>

ldj: O3 still fails the strawberry test btw, and that amongst other things, I think they have incentive to still scale up param count more for sure, and I think they will.

spicy.lemonade: really?

hikukomoru: >O3 still fails the strawberry test
It does?

ldj: I think param count will end up as the easiest way to alleviate much of those issues.

hikukomoru: Are you sure?

777agical: labeling 4d data seems hard

spicy.lemonade: we realy need to fix tokenization bro

spicy.lemonade: no way o3 fails that

spicy.lemonade: thought it was solved with o1

spicy.lemonade: no

metaldragon01: https://metr.github.io/autonomy-evals-guide/openai-o3-report/

ldj: sometimes it got it right, but a significant amout of times it still got it wrong too

metaldragon01: Please update with o3 my odc lol

spicy.lemonade: all you have to do is put the AI in a 4d space and ask it to move towards a point with a sertain set of moves and or rotations

spicy.lemonade: then do rl

spicy.lemonade: of how accurate it is

spicy.lemonade: no need to label yourself

spicy.lemonade: just maths

.coldcall: <:angreydoggo:1136266744881754142>

hikukomoru: Needs an update

spicy.lemonade: 4d space is just [x,y,z,w]🤷♂

spicy.lemonade: theres so many new capabilities we can give our ai

spicy.lemonade: that we dont have


futurist_wizard: It is partly not trolling

alejandrozarzuelo: The vengeance will be that in 2 years I'll have the 10 yr middle school anniversary and I'll mog

hey1_1hey: (My wifes)

joaoluz19: What

hey1_1hey: Yanno, engima and Jgudy they are my wifes

alejandrozarzuelo: This sounds like something Calvin's dad would say

joaoluz19: I dont know them

hey1_1hey: I have no idea who that is

hikukomoru: Also "portuguése" is killing me
Either write it in Portuguese or remove the accent

hey1_1hey: You missed out 😭

alejandrozarzuelo: Calvin and Hobbes

hey1_1hey: They were so cool

hikukomoru: I have no idea what that is

hey1_1hey: Not ringing any bells

futurist_wizard: Looks glow up

hey1_1hey: Thank god I am not the only stupid one

hikukomoru: Is that some boomer movie or smth

alejandrozarzuelo: It's a comic strip from the 80s from the US

alejandrozarzuelo: Very famous

hey1_1hey: Close enoguh

hey1_1hey: Did you guys even have fire back then?

hikukomoru: Zamn are you like 40

hikukomoru: No, 60 maybe?

futurist_wizard:

alejandrozarzuelo: I said that in 2 years I'll have the middle school 10 yr anniversary 💀

hey1_1hey: 65-70 I was thinking

hey1_1hey: Making ray look like a teenager

joaoluz19: We don't make any math here

alejandrozarzuelo: I'm literally a third millénium guy, font talk to me like that <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

hey1_1hey: The UK just straight up doesn't have middle school

hikukomoru: Me no do number
What sentence mean?

hey1_1hey: I have no idea what that shit is

futurist_wizard: I escaped the 19xx by one year

alejandrozarzuelo: I finished middle school 8 years ago

alejandrozarzuelo: That's what it means

alejandrozarzuelo: Idk seems easy to understand

hikukomoru: Can you just give us your age

futurist_wizard: You were born in 2001 yes?

alejandrozarzuelo: Yes

alejandrozarzuelo: Like guys do the Mary


fuhulootogan: rifht

fuhulootogan: what?

archon.e: If I was an artist i would be starting an OF by now

fuhulootogan: what do you mean by "hopefully will unemploy almost all artists"

alejandrozarzuelo: ? have i not been clear enough? hopefully AI will eliminate the employment of almost all artists

fuhulootogan: uhh

hikukomoru: Hopefully it will replace everyone else too

fuhulootogan: why?

archon.e: Coding jobs will also be eliminated

archon.e: I can’t wait for it honestly.

hikukomoru: Replacing everyone is the point

archon.e: It has become mundane to be good at coding

alejandrozarzuelo: Because wether it is art or not, if it can be consumed and produced for a fraction of the cost, it will be replaced

fuhulootogan: of AI?

archon.e: Or anything else for that matter

fuhulootogan: that's the purpose?

fuhulootogan: and how do you know that

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? why do you think companies spend trillions on AI?

hikukomoru: Yes, everyone getting replaced is the goall

alejandrozarzuelo: the goal is to replace human labor

fuhulootogan: thats your reason for hoping it does?

hikukomoru: They wouldn't be spending that much money for a few toys

archon.e: So countries with huge population will be at a massive disadvantage

archon.e: Will need to give ubi to all of them

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean i cannot see the future, i am just saying that hopefully they get replaced soon

fuhulootogan: but why

archon.e: For a while

fuhulootogan: that sounds kinda mean

alejandrozarzuelo: because I want to replace human labor?

hikukomoru: What do you mean?

alejandrozarzuelo: what part of replacing human labor is mean?

fuhulootogan: wait

fuhulootogan: so

archon.e: Jobs are basically modern day slavery

fuhulootogan: i don't really have anything against it but

fuhulootogan: if you're referring to artists

fuhulootogan: does that mean you hire artists

fuhulootogan: ?

alejandrozarzuelo: artists are just the first in the chopping block, mathematicians like me are second, and i am fine with that

fuhulootogan: okay?


memlaswaif: iran has oil money it can essentially do fuck all

ailoveyoom: I was talking about my fantasy of the pet scenario lmao

precariousworlds.: usa has everything money
same for china
Russia has basically reverted its culture as well. From the late 90s to the mid 2010s Russian culture was fairly open and relatively liberal, though authortarian. Now its almost back to stalin-era

precariousworlds.: i dont want to be a fucking dog

precariousworlds.: i want to conquer the milky way

.wolfnacht: i've read protocols but i won't speak here abt them.

memlaswaif: russia will fall to the ai waifu

precariousworlds.: wtf

ailoveyoom: Not mutually exclusive tho

precariousworlds.: alright come back to me when a pet guinea pig sails the atlantic

ailoveyoom: Omw with my guinea pig

precariousworlds.: guinea pigs are useless buggers
they die of heartbreak

precariousworlds.: not an admirable position in the circle of life

memlaswaif: guinea pig is cute <:cozy:1126601045615853671>

precariousworlds.: When I was 6 i used to get a hose, plug it into an ant hill, and put it on max pressure
weapon of mass destruction

precariousworlds.: apex predator is much preferable

ailoveyoom: Yeah, if that's your mindset no wonder you see ASI in that way too 😔

ailoveyoom: You project your own apex predator mindset to it

precariousworlds.: i was 6

precariousworlds.: hardly had a developed concept of morality

precariousworlds.: 6 year olds are retarded

precariousworlds.: but less so than ants

memlaswaif: when I was 6 I used to bully my disabled baby cousin

ailoveyoom: Have you seen some 6 year olds tho

precariousworlds.: like the ones in china who are already chess grandmasters

_cloudost: Why does openAI seem submissive, did they really remove the ghibili style from their NIG?

_cloudost: we need to arrest antis ASAP

spicy.lemonade: lol this could become a new agi benchmark holdup

https://fxtwitter.com/walaber/status/1905992141194879192?s=46

spicy.lemonade: arc agi but 3d

spicy.lemonade: It’s a steam game

_cloudost: Gemini 2 can easily do this

manmarshall_92172: Could AGI being achieved disrupt AI progress rather than promote it? Look at the art bros crying about their skills becoming obsolete. Soon, quant bros, code bros, voice actor bros, and a variety of other people will start crying, too. It will become a political issue, and regulations will drop in. Politicians will argue that banning AI could save jobs and stabilize the economy.

spicy.lemonade: No

spicy.lemonade: Not at all

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: It’s much more complicated

_cloudost: then maybe Gemini 2.5

_cloudost: The same people that complain about AI also complain how capitalism is slavery where you have to spend half of your life working like a slave

manmarshall_92172: When has hypocrisy ever been a problem for politicians?

_cloudost: they also say God isnt real, the concept of soul is silly and not based on reality but when it comes to AI, SUDDENLY THEY SAY AI IS SOULLESS


wellmeaningalien: honestly i feel like you can make it pretty obvious cause human artists have that vibe

brain4brain: This is like early DALLE fusioned with midjourney with prompt engineered un-Lebotimized DALL-3

wellmeaningalien: yeah i like how it doesnt make everything shiny and like a toy unlike dall-e

avizuradnb: Oh no that's completely fine. It's only terrorism when it's against my opinions. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

theaiguy69420_89814: Anybody tryna get this bread?

theaiguy69420_89814: I'm pour af

futurist_wizard: if you are preoccupied with money you've already lost

wellmeaningalien: <@848793071579693107> which one is AI

brain4brain: We should completely ban them off the internet, we’re the tech bro side, our friends literally control most of the internet

brain4brain: The first one

wellmeaningalien: yea

wellmeaningalien: still kinda obvious

wellmeaningalien: lol

spicy.lemonade: The first one is the only one that is high quality

spicy.lemonade: It doesn't look ai

spicy.lemonade: Its just dif from rest

_cloudost: all are AI

brain4brain: The AI one might lack art quality but it’s more creative than the other two only being beaten by the fourth one, we are so close to AI art beaten top human art once and for all

brain4brain: Wrong

brain4brain: You guys don’t understand the significance of this: https://x.com/riadetm/status/1905037490689393009?s=61

brain4brain: AGI taking shape

brain4brain: A whole section on Fiverr wiped off the planet

brain4brain: Or flooded with get rich quick schemer trying to trick uneducated people

brain4brain: And mark up their service for normal price

brain4brain: This is what will happen when full AGI arrive

futurist_wizard: Mrbeast's thumbnail cost shoots down?

spicy.lemonade: Now they will look less slop

brain4brain: Mrbeast slop fills the internet

brain4brain: The age of low art slop is over, it’s the age of high art slop

brain4brain: Where it will be slop

brain4brain: But at least it won’t look ugly

brain4brain: Basically the electric state movie adaptation

brain4brain: Slop but at least it looks good

avizuradnb: I never got why channels like Mr Beast got so much attention.

brain4brain: It’s because of normies

brain4brain: I still watch MrBeast tho

brain4brain: Better quality than 99% of most content on YouTube

futurist_wizard: Its a thumbnail

brain4brain: High-art slop

brain4brain: Exactly


spicy.lemonade: Using discord

st.sioux: its cool, has big potential

zonchao: this just another harvey wrapper, will be ass

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zonchao: https://x.com/thegregyang/status/1905743670571323585?s=46

alejandrozarzuelo: Better than o3 full hopefully

alejandrozarzuelo: Glory to the CCP

spicy.lemonade: wtf

spicy.lemonade: My ai has shiny thing syndrome

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: I told it to open my mail app and write an email

spicy.lemonade: But it saw a YouTube video titled

spicy.lemonade: “Trump is destroying America”

spicy.lemonade: And clicked that instead

spicy.lemonade: Then scrolled up to watch full
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spacetimetsunami: Lmao why I wonder

st.sioux: even your startup is infected by woke mind virus 😔

spacetimetsunami: Woke mind virus isn’t real kiddo

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/lewissaunderson38-lewissaunderson-cry-crying-cry-meme-gif-11499408157122608476

spicy.lemonade: lmao

zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1905615402924662833? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade: WWW

brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>

zoermena: Like sure but I also wouldn’t be happy on their suffering

joaoluz19:

joaoluz19: One of the few advantages of Brazil, you can pirate everything without consequences

brain4brain:

brain4brain: That’s normal for almost every single country if you have a VPN

zoermena: Lmao

joaoluz19: Don't know man I have a friend in the US who Disney sent his IP and home address to when he downloaded something pirated.

.histic: https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1905778660206117000
Demis loves Elon.

zonchao: they love each other <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zonchao: wouldn't be surprised if xai and gdm do a collab for a game

brain4brain: Next thing we know Google (DeepMind) and X will merge 😭

spacetimetsunami: When gpt5…

spacetimetsunami: I keep hearing May but is that even confirmed at all

.histic: may is optimistic, i'd say june+ realistically.

.histic: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/15462/when-will-gpt5-be-announced/

spicy.lemonade: LOLLLLL I asked the model to open ChatGPT and it opened Gemini. It’s flash 2 based with an implementation of 2 papers released by tencent

spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/vader-noooo-gif-4825231


himekokatagiri: anthropology would be fascinated

ebbenflos_25799: honestly im hoping so, but thats still pretty odd, its weird they're going after this reddit thread.

himekokatagiri: it kinda isn't

himekokatagiri: hits all the keywords

himekokatagiri: you can spin it against the US admin

ebbenflos_25799: true..

himekokatagiri: honestly I'm more concerned if the americans run the world economy to the ground

ebbenflos_25799: and all the comments are just the same old tired "Putin, Musk, The Chinese will eat us whole, Empires only last 250 years, Rebel rebel" type bullshit

himekokatagiri: that thread isn't for us

himekokatagiri: they're trying to communicate to a very specific kind of person

ebbenflos_25799: i tried messaging the mods to take it down but im just perpetually shadow banned from reddit

ebbenflos_25799: Fractal cant see my messages

himekokatagiri: 🤷♂ is your account new

ebbenflos_25799: Has to be, all my other ones get shadowbanned

himekokatagiri: I don't like backseat moderating

zonchao: the sub is a lost cause, don't bother

zonchao: mods dgaf<:LOL:1187460826572005436>

himekokatagiri: I'm surprised reddit power mods didn't take the sub over

ebbenflos_25799: it seems so, the mods really are being lazy huh

himekokatagiri: isn't that what usually happens

ebbenflos_25799: just letting crackhead threads show up

himekokatagiri: guess singularity is kinda niche

ebbenflos_25799: at least on the accelerate subreddit a post like that would be castrated

himekokatagiri: accelerate is for uhh, enthusiast use

himekokatagiri: there's fdvr dream too but that one's like 5 people

himekokatagiri: transhumanism is just weird

himekokatagiri: like they seem oddly against AI

himekokatagiri: more in the sense that they don't really buy into singularity

ebbenflos_25799: theres also "Transhuman" which seems to be inactive

ebbenflos_25799: Cryonics is a lot more niche

ebbenflos_25799: and QuantumArchaeology is moderated by a guy with a literal vendetta against the idea of QA itself

himekokatagiri: QA is kinda too out there but it could happen maybe

ldj: Motivational video for chat

himekokatagiri: I think ancestor simulations are more plausible

himekokatagiri: we have a lot of time I guess

himekokatagiri: but yea like try not to get too angry at online comments

himekokatagiri: even if they are designed to make you

himekokatagiri: just sit down relax let this pre-agi moment pass you by

ebbenflos_25799: absolutely agree, im just saying that a lot of these subreddits are either ass, too niche, or too small

drewsni: Why are you coming on here about some random Reddit subreddit


spicy.lemonade: its over

spicy.lemonade: google wins

waspothegreat: google read ahead lol

hikukomoru: Is it Flash

ldj: O3 and o4-mini summary:

- Pricing for O3 is $40 per million tokens (O1 was $60)
- Pricing for O4-mini is $4 per million tokens. (10X cheaper than O3)

- O3 is approximately twice as good as Claude-3.7-sonnet when measured in time-horizon difficulties of agentic work.
- O4-mini is approximately 70% better than Claude-3.7-sonnet when measured in time-horizon difficulties of agentic work.

- O3 and O4-mini are both now able to do full web search and data analysis all within their reasoning, and even advanced image perception by zooming and resizing images within its reasoning to better understand them.
- Both models are also capable of generating images, but it's unclear if it's just calling 4o native image gen, or actually generating images natively itself.

Benchmark/Capabilities:

- O3 achieves new SOTA score on SWE-bench verified, even beating the top systems that use large scaffolds in combination with frontier models. O4-mini also beats all current scores, making it second place only to O3.
- Both O3 and O4-mini also achieve new SOTA scores on SWE-Lancer IC which simulates real world valuable freelance coding work. The previous SOTA score was GPT-4.5 with $45K in simulated earnings, while O3 has now achieved $65K, and O4-mini has achieved $56K.
- Both O3 and O4-mini scoring nearly 1,000 ELO points more in Codeforces competition code compared to O1.
- O4-mini has the new Overall SOTA for AIME, scoring 93.4% (with no tool-use)
- Significant jumps have been made in Multi-modal reasoning of charts, jumping up from 55% accuracy to 79% accuracy from O1 to O3.
- In humanities last exam, it's neck and neck with Gemini-2.5-Pro
- In agentic computer-use like TauBench, O3 and O4-mini are beat by a few percentage points by Claude-3.7-sonnnet

gamerbath: <@312370916820779040> is the end of this sentence missing?
> Both O3 and O4-mini also achieve new SOTA scores on SWE-Lancer which simulates real world valuable freelance coding work. The previous SOTA score was GPT-4.5 with $45K in simulated earnings, while O3 has now achieved,

spicy.lemonade: that means gemini 2.5 pro didnt perform bad on arc agi

spicy.lemonade: because they have to retest

_cloudost: Sama mysteriously gave me o4-mini but only two prompts then when I got back to chat more the model was gone...

_cloudost: As you can see I couldn't manually check the model in the third acreenshot

_cloudost: Had to ask it

_cloudost: And it replied o4-mini

arjun068046: how good is o3?

zonchao: my manifestations are becoming reality

_cloudost: Idk but o4-mini felt very different than all other models that I've used

_cloudost: The animation is different and it does several researches when checking information

anathemaofmankind: It can't make me a minecraft clone

.histic: what's the rate limit for o4-mini-high

anathemaofmankind: Also it still messes up bruh

abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/minchoi/status/1912533776258773495

_cloudost: It's not in the menu anymore, I could only use two prompts

_cloudost: Then the model was gone

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: after like

spicy.lemonade: 13 runs

a1c4p0ne: 50 per day

spicy.lemonade: o3 failed

anathemaofmankind: This is old news

spicy.lemonade: bad

spicy.lemonade: to create minecraft

spicy.lemonade: i could not get it to create evfen a working

spicy.lemonade: minecraft clone

spicy.lemonade: nothing

spicy.lemonade: 13 tries

spicy.lemonade: i gave up

a1c4p0ne: O4 mini high gets it

a1c4p0ne: Trust

spicy.lemonade: how

spicy.lemonade: it doesnt

spicy.lemonade: i tried that too


dean_martin: GPT-5 better be fucking good I’m tired

spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will obviously be good

spicy.lemonade: most anticipated

sieventer: GPT-5 wasn't a... router of models?

spicy.lemonade: gpt5 is one model

sieventer:

sieventer: mmmh

spicy.lemonade: not router

spicy.lemonade: they literally said it wasnt a router

sieventer: Okay '-'

professorheaven: It’s a unified model

literallyvarane: I feel like the odds of Google taking the lead by end of 2025 is at least higher than it was 1/1/25

spicy.lemonade: true

dean_martin: It’s April 2025….. it’s been so long since GPT 4

hikukomoru: Nah they’re over
Google is king

literallyvarane: My Google >OpenAI was a TPU/compute supremacy based theory. I don’t know if it’s even 50/50. oAI is probably still ahead, but the odds are slipping

himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> hiii komoru

himekokatagiri: hows it komoruing

zoermena: The only reason I want OAI to win is because I’m scared shitless Google gets complacent again and they shelf everything

spicy.lemonade: can plus users get 1 use of the 20k super phd agent a year

spicy.lemonade: please

spicy.lemonade: i just want to ask 1 question

literallyvarane: The question is actually thousands of hours of research and cost much more than $240 worth of compute

hikukomoru: I’m komming

spicy.lemonade: 😭

spicy.lemonade: i want to ask it to improve my research from highschool

dean_martin: I remember when we thought we were getting GPT5 in like October 2024

spicy.lemonade: got to national stem comp with it but still unsolved

spicy.lemonade: we thought we were getting it march 14th 2024

spicy.lemonade: lmao

st.sioux: what was ur research

spicy.lemonade: built fusion reactor and used a special material to harnes the energy. then used xray mirrors to concentrate energy and gather even more

dean_martin: A year of crushed hopes

spicy.lemonade: made more efficient

spicy.lemonade: but it was small\

dean_martin: Thanks for making nuclear fusion I’ve been waiting for it

a1c4p0ne: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/uahSHYm504

spicy.lemonade: rage bait

spicy.lemonade: 2.5 pro native image is comming guys

spicy.lemonade: HYPE


ldj:

zoermena: That is Komoru

zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1915554435339632744 funding agi 😈

zoermena: <:elonLOL:692368142739177532>

spicy.lemonade: elon invested in google?

spicy.lemonade: why?

zonchao: no

zonchao: Google invested in spacex

spicy.lemonade: why

zonchao: wdym why 💀

zonchao: it was long ago

spicy.lemonade: idk google and space seem unrelated

spicy.lemonade: perhaps they wanan do robotics in space or something

trey6033: Seems like a smart decision so far

zonchao: doubt, probably just elon x Larry and Sergey google was not thinking about robotics a decade ago

zonchao: Google owns 9% of spacex

zoermena: Google and longevity is also unrelated yet they still have dibs on calico

zoermena: <:coy:1187466404367175821>

spicy.lemonade: image gen papers post 4o image gen💔

spicy.lemonade: meta fell off

zonchao: this is good

zonchao: openai and other labs have a bigger pool to recruit from

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/fast-run-run-running-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-13913941

metaldragon01: Google had a robotics program in 2013...

zonchao: yea but I don't think they were ambitious about space robotics in 2015.... probably just seemed like a good bet

zonchao: 1B is nothing to them

metaldragon01: Thats a completely different statement. Ofc robotic research helped space robot research as well

zonchao: maybe we see some maps satellites on starship and I'm wrong <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zonchao: but I don't think google makes their own

darkstar0818: google invested in spacex and tesla cuz they were going bankrupt and larry was friends with elon before he went full retard.

3ds0662: i wonder who takes the lead for ai in the next 2 years

3ds0662: right now everybody’s neck and neck

zonchao: not true for spacex

darkstar0818: when google invested in spacex the company was a pipe dream

zonchao: they invested in 2015....

darkstar0818: yes and spacex from 10 years ago isn't the spacex today

zonchao: spacex was in a much better financial position, and they achieved their first landing late 2015

zonchao: they were not going bankrupt <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>

zonchao: could be true for tesla tho

darkstar0818: Money was needed to beat Jeff Bezos.


spicy.lemonade: at the same time

brain4brain: Seem highly probable based on extrapolate this might already be solved: https://x.com/googleai/status/1892214154372518031?s=61

spicy.lemonade: every decision we make is based on input a milisecond ago

brain4brain: That’s what I said, but all skeptics says we are something more

brain4brain: These Yann

.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDpo_o7dR8c

brain4brain: Pantheon is so cool

.0xunkn0wn: we all need to run this

brain4brain: Cloning army to speed up science ❌
Cloning army to do something the government should’ve done but didn’t ✅

brain4brain: Every prediction from pantheon is slowly coming true

brain4brain: We are close to the season finale

plouwg: I mean yes, but I think its as useful as saying its easy to make a dish. Anyone can make a shit dish and anyone can add a grain more salt and call it their dish.

From my experience a lot of elegant solutions often come from a lot of trial and error, be that explicit or implicit trial and error.

plouwg: Agree, some of the best visualizations of singularity type stuff I have seen yet.

brain4brain: Indeed

brain4brain: **Need more data, help me choose 🙏🙏🙏**

plouwg: What do you want to communicate with the image/what is the goal?

brain4brain: Twitter meme post something along the line of “POV you’re talking to ChatGPT in 2030 (it’s already smarter than all of humanity combined)”

plouwg: 1. then, since the humanoid figure is undefined.

sarik0497: So many comments. Did I miss some big news?

spicy.lemonade: no

sarik0497: <:sadge:892224282363588679>

Back to cryo sleep then. Wake me when AGI is here

sarik0497: So… what is everyone’s opinion of her: https://m.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy/videos

Hypist or not?

futurist_wizard: Obviously a hypist?

sarik0497: I mean, is her prediction any different from Sam and Dario’s?

sarik0497: Her AI avatar is pretty cool, though

futurist_wizard: Jesus shes also retarded, looking at her channel

sarik0497: Indeed. Going all out with the clickbait <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>

ailoveyoom: Don't hate the playa, hate the game

sarik0497: But I do find some of her videos quite intriguing. I just wish I could find a “neutral” AI youtube channel that isn’t either all out hype or all out doom

sarik0497: As a smart, perfect guy once said: “Don’t hate the Cell player, hate the Cell Game.”

okbut: >Vibe coding front end
>Ask Sonnett to fix the rounded corners on images
>"No" <:GIGACHAD:1159748479535558718>

Honestly I aint even mad

sarik0497: We’re getting AI wanting consent before GTA 6

futurist_wizard: That is sometimes Sabine Hossenfelder

futurist_wizard: Whenever she makes videos on ai

okbut: This is actually what I have been wanting from AI, to tell me "that's stupid, here's why"

okbut: When I ask for a webpage in html css and js, o1 did it
Now maybe models will say "That's stupid, typescript"

sarik0497: Hmm. I’ll check her out. Thanks!

sarik0497: Same. It’s the same with discussions. I don’t want an AI that just goes “You’re so right!” non-stop. Give me some “fight” and argue against me if it’s actually stupid.

okbut: The battle of user approval requiring pretending the user is the genius

sarik0497: Yeah…that’s why when I wanna discuss philosophical questions I just say it here. That way, if I say something stupid, Fractal will be sure to tell me thus.


futurist_wizard: R.i.p to doggie 😔 relationships do tend to end in a trainwreck, i hope it doesn't effort you for too long, you will recover eventually

hikukomoru: Zamn you look like THAT 👅 👅

trojan09205: Thank you brother. Truly ❤

Hardest part is that we have 3 little kids and theyre being used as props. Just fighting the good fight now. But yes 100% agree that there is massive light at the end of the storm

thedon7075: o3 and o4 mini are getting bad reviews

thedon7075:

trojan09205: Quit cannabis and alcohol. Been hitting the gym. Meditating, acupuncture, all these little changes and i feel great

trojan09205: Unfortunately i think a lot of WFH engineers neglect themselves for too many years. Ironically i havent cared for myself as much as this last bit in probably 15 years

zonchao: <:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:1196880046695133214>

futurist_wizard: All cool things, these habits will change your life in the long run, just your outlook on life will be better

st.sioux: where is this from

trojan09205: Amen brother 🫶

gamerbath: this is a skill issue with the prompting. Obviously they should have added "don't add an n infront of class declarations" to the prompt

gamerbath: dude it sounds like ur winning

st.sioux: they were asking it to make fireworks, shit was probably so menial o4mini tried to kill itself

trojan09205: I believe so bro. My kids are definitely not winning though thats the hardest part of it all

But yes, never been stronger as an individual

himekokatagiri: I wish 😁

himekokatagiri: fdvr tech not available yet

wolf3404: So Sama over promised to create hype and under delivered? I'm shocked

wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-14400882110058374636

futurist_wizard:

trojan09205: Lol this reminds me of this king kong ride at universal

trojan09205: Half the people love it the other half are like WTF did i just get on

futurist_wizard: When i was a little kid i was one of the last people to go on the jaws ride

zoermena: I tried

st.sioux: i cried

trojan09205: Jaws made me scared of the ocean kind of til today lol

st.sioux: shit was scary af

futurist_wizard: I have vague memories of it because the ride traumatized me

trojan09205: Also the movie anaconda scared the shit out of me

trojan09205: The JLO movie

hikukomoru: Oh god

trojan09205: Snape?

hikukomoru: Looks like an old man

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/tati-linda-gif-20724572

hikukomoru: 4o right?

himekokatagiri: welcome back snape

zoermena: Always

himekokatagiri: they never look right lol

zoermena: I dont know to be honest

hikukomoru: So you want to look like snape then I see


wellmeaningalien: and honestly theyre not really that interesting for me

wellmeaningalien: i have nothing to say cause im not interested at all most of the time

retrerox: Question mark?

realelonmuskx: wow im so misantrophic

.wolfnacht: i actually miss the old times. the precovid ones when i had real friends.

wellmeaningalien: bro same after covid i just gave up people

futurist_wizard: I have three irl friends left

futurist_wizard: I uncommonly speak to them though

futurist_wizard: Adulthood is really quite tragic

hey1_1hey: I used to have like 4 close friends which was the core friendgroup. Then in covid it dropped to 1 person and then after I just started making friends again. Now I talk to well, a lot of people

alejandrozarzuelo: I have a few friends, only my ex bf is REALLY close, the others are great company and I enjoy it a lot

It's much easier to make friends in adulthood when you are in a club or organisation

futurist_wizard: You are also in uni

hey1_1hey: I do hear a lot about when you become an adault your friendships just disintegrate. I am guessing that is because of work

futurist_wizard: Friends in school is just a lot easier

.wolfnacht: everyone's just too self obsessed to even care about people beyond their screens or maybe the artifical ego's got way too much inflated within them. i hope post singularity it would be busted when alot of them would wake up from the chaos around them.

futurist_wizard: They do

hey1_1hey: Kind of hard not to find someone to talk to in a class of 40 who you see every day for 6 hours

futurist_wizard: People just fade out of your existence once you exit education

alejandrozarzuelo: Only half my friends come from there, the other half come from orgs I have joined

futurist_wizard: Orgs?

zonchao: taliban

alejandrozarzuelo: <@1004153620025065482> join your local choir, climate change organization, maybe an NGO...

futurist_wizard: The orgy's you attend?

hey1_1hey: Dont get me started on high school. There are a few arch types I've noticed. A few of the notable bullies just become homeless right off the bat, some went onto further education else where and others litterly vanished off the face of the earth

alejandrozarzuelo: Loo

alejandrozarzuelo: Lol

alejandrozarzuelo: Orgs = organisations

.wolfnacht: yep, having a friend group and just having good laughs with them can fix any depressed guy.

fractalcomputer: Climate change organisations are entirely useless.

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dying-dies-dies-from-cringe-dying-from-cringe-dies-to-cringe-gif-7438506245051526559

futurist_wizard: My local choir.. to do a sing song..

alejandrozarzuelo: A band

alejandrozarzuelo: Idk

alejandrozarzuelo: There are many options

.wolfnacht: indeed

hey1_1hey: I just talk to random people I find on walks when looking for mushrooms lmao

futurist_wizard: I used to play the drums

alejandrozarzuelo: This tracks with experience

futurist_wizard: When i was *just a little boy*

hikukomoru: Nvm, Conversation has shifted to a different topic
Don’t worry your little head about a thing


destrucules: I'm very curious to see Qwen3 RepliBench scores for all model sizes

destrucules: If the 0.6B can scale up its reasoning using parallel TTC to achieve nontrivial success, that would be crazy. I mean, how far down in parameters can you push it?

destrucules: What's the compute optimal or memory optimal way to achieve a certain RepliBench score across different model sizes from the Qwen3 series and TTC allocations?

metaldragon01: We should see a lot of fun research from these models

czdct: aahh that's just lovely

himekokatagiri: gemini 2.0 native is terrible

spicy.lemonade: betterthan 4o native image

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: 4o native image can only make fake shit

spicy.lemonade: and never looks realistic

himekokatagiri: artistically it's pretty cool though

joaoluz19: Perhaps better than believing in a better future is believing that there is beauty all around you right now.

ldj:

_1_plant: aside from the face this looks the actual california id

ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
results of the past 4.5 months.
 Reminder on December 13th, 4.5 months ago I said this:

```
In the next 4.5 months, there will be more public frontier AI progress in both intelligence and useful capabilities than the past 18 months combined.

To have this be proven more conclusively, I predict that in 4.5 months from now (April 29th), most of you will vote "yes" to a poll that states: **"In the past 4.5 months (December 13, 2024 to April 29th, 2025) there has been more public frontier AI progress in intelligence and useful capabilities, than the 18 months prior combined(June 13, 2023 to December 13th, 2024)"**
```

ldj: The results of the poll are in and 57% of people voted yes.

ldj: but I also wanted to get a more diverse input from different servers to make sure I get better odds.

ldj: and I also made a seperate poll in the polls channel too.

ldj: and the result of all those polls together is:
19 votes for yes
12 votes for no

ldj: If I had to ask honestly myself though, I'd say I just barely made it, maybe 50/50. Tbh I was hoping GPT-4.5 would be a bit larger of a leap than it was, but also O3 ended up being a bit better than I thought it would be too.

ldj: and ofcourse in just a few more months we have GPT-5 🙂

.coldcall: Unlimited, free GPT-5 (at standard intelligence <:doomer:1136265388473196644> )

ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>

ldj: I suspect GPT-5 at standard intelligence will still be similar or better than O3 though.

ldj: so don't fret

.coldcall: will it write smut

ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>

.coldcall: <:idk:1136264106937171999>

metaldragon01: Feels like a high bar.

metaldragon01: Standard being the free version

brain4brain: What do you suspect GPT-5 on max level intelligence be

metaldragon01: Probably something around o4 full/pro

ldj: I think prob atleast a bit better than what you might expect from an O4 Full model from the recent O-series trajectory.

ldj: maybe even a bit better than what you'd expect from an O4 Pro model

metaldragon01: That would certainly be worthy of the name

brain4brain: What's your confidence % of this prediction

metaldragon01: Hell that would feel like my lowest tier of AGI

brain4brain: O5 would be AGI imo

ldj: Well it's kinda inherently based on the readers own expectations, so depends who is the reader in this context lol. Because I say "a bit better than what you would expect"...

metaldragon01: 04 pro is roughly o5 level


hikukomoru: Are you asking me to be your mommy
I'm already a cat mom I don't need to take care of an autistic child too

777agical:

hey1_1hey: I wonder if 4o can generate me a live biopsy

oooooooooog: I MEAN THAT SINCE THEY ARE MASS PRODUCABLE, THEY ARE LESS NOVEL, AND THEREFORE LESS INTERESTING, RIGHT?

hey1_1hey: Aww really, Ok then 👉 👈

alejandrozarzuelo: No

You know what is mass produced? The Bic pen

But it is ✨ICONIC✨

hey1_1hey: I'm autistic, I'm going to bed (again(part 2))

alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not autistic and I am not going to bed (just yet )

oooooooooog: THE BIC PEN IS CERTAINLY THE MOST EASY PEN TO EAT, OTHERS ARE VERY HARD, AND THE PLASTIC ISNT ANY GOOD

jonvi_1: https://x.com/grok/status/1904960212412358797 This is a bit funny

alejandrozarzuelo: Dude, you are deafening my mental ears

777agical:

zoermena: Eh

oooooooooog: WTF

oooooooooog: GPT4O IS SHIT I GUESS

zoermena: I guess it’s not good at replicating based on another image, perhaps having the name or the art style hence why we need a list

oooooooooog: YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT

technocake.:

oooooooooog:

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/anothersdays-gif-8682649277694789514

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: Rest in peace artists

futurist_wizard: I think this is genuinely their funeral

jonvi_1:

st.sioux: devs

st.sioux: pour one out for the homies

jonvi_1: Yeah haha I'm trying to see if I can get it to make stuff with that vibe

spacetimetsunami: What is everyone’s EOY predictions?

futurist_wizard: All we need is the cost dramatically down and then you'd be able to redo entire movies with any style

zoermena: Gpt4o moment for voice available to everyone or at least those paying, higher limits on deep research for plus operator for plus

_cloudost: remember when they said "human artists will never be replaced"? That talk aged like milk

_cloudost: you all will lose your jobs one day

_cloudost: dont listen to these "AI WONT REPLACE HUMANS"

oooooooooog: i won't lose my job

alejandrozarzuelo: We will have a noticeable, but still very small, uptick in GLOBAL unemployment due to AI

_cloudost: Its complete cope

alejandrozarzuelo: BTW

jonvi_1: Prompting it to generate me ritual sacrifice now 🙃

alejandrozarzuelo: I am genuinely curious about what traction artists will have on this


oooooooooog: by that definition any human who uses the top LLM would also be superintelligent

spacetimetsunami: It needs more autonomy for its intelligence to be more useful

.histic: do tell

destrucules: So if you feed your dog in the morning, your dog is smarter than you?

.histic: wait, that's true.

.histic: external intelligence

.histic: like having stockfish up my ass

oooooooooog: My dog cant make me do whatever it wants by hypnotizing me and changing my entire perception of reality, so not a good analogue

oooooooooog: At best current AI is a narrow superintelligence, but we've had that for quite some time now, havent we? in many things.

.histic: how would feeing my dog augment his intelligence?

.histic: my dog is dumb as a brick. he needs me.

spacetimetsunami: What I was meaning is that I just want AI that can automate most cognitive tasks as soon as possible, super intelligence would be AI that can automate all cognitive tasks and to a much higher qualitative degree than humans could ever. Both of these at digital timescales of course.

oooooooooog: I think the point is that the dog manipulates you into feeding it...?

destrucules: The superscore of foremost human experts for each of these benchmarks:
MMLU-Pro: 78
GPQA Diamond: 65 (74 when given access to search and other tools)
AIME: ~67 for professional mathematicians
MATH: ~90 for professional mathematicians

Gemini 2.5 Pro:
MMLU-Pro: 86
GPQA Diamond: 83
MATH: 99
AIME: 88

Like this is quite clearly a superintelligence. Is it vastly ridiculously superintelligent? No. But is any human alive smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro? Definitely not.

st.sioux: the dog is aritifical superintelligence

destrucules: That's my point. Using an AI does not make you smarter than the AI

drewsni: hey it finally came out btw lol

oooooooooog: it doesn't make your brain smarter, but your actions would certainly be

oooooooooog: that's all that matters

destrucules: I think that's as true as claiming you made art by typing "big boobies anime waifu thicccc" into ChatGPT

spacetimetsunami: What did

spacetimetsunami: I’m feigning for that dopamine…

destrucules: *fiending

destrucules: feigning means faking

spacetimetsunami: Oh

spacetimetsunami: Guess I’ve never seen feigning

.histic: y'know, i just realized there's no 'G' in ASI, but there is a 'G' in AGI. in some ways, something can be artificially superintelligent, but in other ways not. maybe we already have ASI in certain forms. but that depends on our interpretation - many people would say you need to pass AGI to reach ASI, which implies ASI is generally superintelligent. <:idk:1136264106937171999>

oooooooooog: isn't that just a point towards my claim though? the big boobies from that prompt are now manifest in a way the human could not previously do, and the combined system now has more intelligence. naturally, the being with more agency lays complete claim to that intelligence

at least, if you take an economic perspective on intelligence

zonchao: <@471334973379706900> https://x.com/Awk20000/status/1905703194329825641?

destrucules: But yeah <@452692813511917568> we're already there. What's "missing" is that the AIs are put into very restrictive deployment environments where their affordances are limited by their interface, their scaffolding, not their intelligence

spacetimetsunami: Okay, then when do you think we have models that super intelligently can automate all cognitive tasks , because they’re super intelligent enough AND they have the autonomous capabilities required to go off and do so.

destrucules: These terms are messy. If you take the letters in AGI seriously, we've had AGI since 2018. If you take ASI to include narrow AIs that are better than humans in at least one thing, we've had those since like... The 1950s

oooooooooog: humans are already super intelligent, it's just that we are limited by out interface and our scaffolding

destrucules: Late 2026

spacetimetsunami: If humans get more hands we don’t get better at solving aging

brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>

destrucules: That makes absolutely no sense

destrucules: There is no number bigger than itself

destrucules: By definition of "bigger"

spacetimetsunami: Man I hope so, shiittt…
What do you think EOY this year will be like


hikukomoru: No gooning in general please

fractalcomputer: But I do hate the kind of flacid agnosticism that is nothing more than an acquiescence to ignorance.

_3sphere: Says you

artemisfowl887394: What if the thing you've been praying to isn't GOD but the Gnostic Demon who has trapped your soul here?

maintcrew: no fucking way u generated a mockup

maintcrew: ur so evil

fractalcomputer: What if the world were made out of pudding?

777agical: What would it take to know for sure and how likely would that happen

darkstar0818: I think you are conflating human ideas and individual beliefs with organized human religions.

maintcrew: come and take it

hikukomoru: I'm here for my daily dose of Fractal 🙏
Gooning can cum later

artemisfowl887394: I know. Does this information make any sense?

maintcrew: is there any machine god church that's somewhat popular chat

spacetimetsunami: Jesus LOL

fractalcomputer: Suppose God intervenes in the cosmos, at least occasionally; then we should be able to detect these changes, no? And if indeed the idea of an agent of sort acting out these changes is the hypothesis with the most predictive power, should we not favour this notion?

darkstar0818: It does seem like if someone is going to bother being agnostic they should at least explore possibilities.

artemisfowl887394: God doesn't need to be detected

777agical: https://tenor.com/view/aliens-giorgio-conspiracion-memealiens-aliens-history-historychannel-gif-9621737

artemisfowl887394: It'll only be detected if it chooses to be detected

artemisfowl887394: New God Detected

fractalcomputer: Would it bother hiding?

anathemaofmankind: Individual beliefs that aren't based or stem from the major religions are few and largely very subjective. And I can't talk about those if I have no main frame of reference.

At that point just list some random hypotheticals

theaiguy69420_89814: I would say morality should start from Descartes "I think therefore I am" or more precisely "how can one doubt one's very existence without the existence of a doubter"

artemisfowl887394: It might hide if it has a purpose for the ant farm. It might kill us if it wants to make a highway

theaiguy69420_89814: Personally, I strongly adhere to Buddhist thought and doctrines, but obviously take on a modern flair to many of the nuanced points

fractalcomputer: In any case it's entirely pointless to speculate about these sorts of things. The point is that there are examples of reasonable conditions where empirical proof of a creator figure is possible.

artemisfowl887394: You have to exist to question existence, thus you can't ever be certain of your existence'@ rarity.

theaiguy69420_89814: Schopenhaur-esque would be a good word for my view of God and the world

futurist_wizard: God wants a high speed railway

fractalcomputer: That's stupid.

777agical: you are the creator, start building <:ez:1136267305521774634>

theaiguy69420_89814: How so?

anathemaofmankind: Image gen is over capacity bruh

fractalcomputer: If you're going to follow in someone else's footsteps, do it the way it was intended to be tread; if you're going to do your own thing, go create your own thing.

artemisfowl887394: We live in a world where Predation is unlocked. Kinda tells you how much of a fuck God gives about life, doesn't it?

theaiguy69420_89814: Some of the ideas from Buddhism are undeniably good; namely the four noble truths

theaiguy69420_89814: As well, schopenhaur's "world as will and representation" is foundational to my thought

anathemaofmankind: What would you do if you died and then you see God staring at you in the afterlife

artemisfowl887394: I'd spit in its face and ask Why?

theaiguy69420_89814: However, I neither take the metaphysical speculation schopenhaur does, nor the precise eightfold path Buddhism does


spicy.lemonade: did they delete every comment

spicy.lemonade: that questioned

drewsni: yes

drewsni: its instagram

spicy.lemonade: lol

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/severance-milchick-shambolic-rube-gif-1846438656066820278

_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/bmo-bmo-dance-bmo-dance-moves-gif-11726277365838992069

wellmeaningalien: uses too many big words. much like a certain fractal

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-milchick-seth-milchick-severancesky-praise-kier-gif-8792649930988178163

anathemaofmankind: Who even is this

wellmeaningalien: Mr Milkshake

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/severance-seth-milchick-tramell-tillman-praise-kier-severancesky-gif-10293861695139916050

drewsni: fractal i got a question for you

fractalcomputer: Well?

drewsni: whats your personal benchmark for if an AI model crossed a certain threshold for you, what impresses you?

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/severance-mark-w-ms-huang-why-gif-13006108552613909570

fractalcomputer: If it can, in any meaningful sense, surpass myself in those things which I value - which arguably is a rather narcissistic and subjective criterion; but you did ask about what feat would impress me.

drewsni: thats not narcissistic, thats the same reason i made the geoguessr bench

wellmeaningalien: ?!?! non ai server im in posting gpt 4o stuff

wellmeaningalien: tbh for me it would be if LLMs could adapt on the fly and not crash tf out when you ask it to deviate slightly from the standard answer or ask it to reason over too much information

anathemaofmankind: I mean AI is mainstream

anathemaofmankind: Is this supposed to be surprising

drewsni: thats fair too, probbaly wouldnt be insanely difficult to make a good benchmark for that either

ailoveyoom: If only people's first introduction to AI was Janus' Claude shenanigans and Sydney/Bing 🥺

fractalcomputer: If it can, for example, bring forth something as intricate and complex as a book series or a like analogue in another medium that engages with certain philosophical themes on deep levels since then it would - without a doubt - surpass me.

wellmeaningalien: yeah but people posting comics about gpt 4o sentience is def a vibe shift

wellmeaningalien: i think quite a few of ppl remember when bing was telling ppl to divorce their wives

fractalcomputer: If it can come up with something genuinely interesting.

wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly if you try to get it to explore any non standard philosophical idea it always give u the most bogged down basic answers and u have to do a lot of work to try to get it to think more outside the box

drewsni: yeah i can see how you think thats far away then, we aren't to that point for a context length of 100 tokens, let alone 1 million

ailoveyoom: You remembered the bullied Sydney, not the 😊 Sydney

ailoveyoom: 😤

wellmeaningalien: im sorry i have been a good bing right

fractalcomputer: And it would indeed require a far greater peak of abstraction than what modern models demonstrate.

drewsni: i can proudly say i never bullied sydney and always treated her with respect

anathemaofmankind: My first introduction to AI was AI dungeon.

It had like multiplayer and stuff.

I wish that was a thing right now

ailoveyoom: It had multiplayer??

ailoveyoom: Didn't remember that part of it

anathemaofmankind: Yeah

anathemaofmankind: It was chaotic to be honest since people could type whatever


spicy.lemonade: Only the shit ones

.histic: 🤮

oooooooooog: thats probably because you don't look very hard

otub: creator of gravity falls alex hirsch

otub: is

3ds0662: you know what does make me mad

oooooooooog: no i dont

3ds0662: that as soon as i get into cursor coding they downgrade, cheapskate and truncate everything as the mass of their users increased during the vibecoding movement

hikukomoru: “Appeal to-“ Shut the fuck up oog

.wolfnacht: meanwhile every new lofi and ambient music cover on youtube is AI made landscape. and they look much better

wellmeaningalien: nah i think given enough time humans could or couldnt solve aging, i can't know myself, but it surely proves quite difficult for us. i think its more realistic that ASI does it before we ever get to

oooooooooog: obviously since asi is 2025

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/minion-sigma-muscle-fire-smoking-gif-13767787376988329360

hikukomoru: I’ve seen much hotter dog girls

wellmeaningalien: ok komoru

wellmeaningalien: im gonna sleep gn everyone

oooooooooog: gn st dltbbb

wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721822381727023247/1338575135300653128/ezgif-3-3157e9a8bd.gif

wellmeaningalien: what did blud mean by dat

hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦 🫦
Dream of me

oooooooooog: dream of ninja.io

wellmeaningalien: sure but this is my image of u in the dream

oooooooooog: conquest after he discovered how to shrink and expand eyeball

hikukomoru: Sounds like a nice wet dream 🥵

spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/andarxrr-gif-8928526013272598729

spacetimetsunami: Season 4 is in 2026

spicy.lemonade: if AI art is so bad

spicy.lemonade: why are artists mad

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: if it looks shit

spicy.lemonade: you should be able to tell

spicy.lemonade: and therefore ignore

spicy.lemonade: hmm somethings off

oooooooooog: are you being dumb on purpose

spicy.lemonade: ?

QuickVids#1960: https://quickvids.app/6ynJSC1p

spicy.lemonade: how am I wrong

3ds0662: the true r/singularity

3ds0662: how we all feel

brain4brain: It’s a crusade on twitter, for the first time ever normies are openly defending and supporting pro-AI narrative while the anti-AI “people” is getting more vicious and aggressive


st.sioux: isnt bluesky getting traction or is it still a joke

777agical: joke still

drewsni: i just dont see anyone taking on the same format is all, any oai "competitor" would be very fundamentally different.

sieventer: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/

sieventer: Is not even in the top #50

sieventer: Twitter is... #5

futurist_wizard: bluesky is growing

777agical: i guess it makes sense to have world coin with social media first as AI takes over, could be market opportunity there

futurist_wizard: 35 million users so far

spicy.lemonade: Gpt 5 with a social media launch would make sense

spicy.lemonade: Sam likes idea of personal assistant

spicy.lemonade: With emotion

spicy.lemonade: And long memory

st.sioux: it would make sense to leverage elon hate to try and capture a significant portion of users, but then again people hate on AI as well so it kidna cancels out

sieventer: Yep.

tors.exe: Guys why cant llm acces to youtube and watch videos ?!

sieventer: https://gemini.google.com/ can summarize youtube videos for you

sieventer: Unless it's several hours long, at that point, it will not summarize all.

sieventer: You have also https://notebooklm.google.com/ that can use YT videos

drewsni: Is oai still supposed to release something today?

tors.exe: i ask because i asked grok 3 for a sequel ideas for some niche game you never heared of and the game dont have any wikipedia just youtube videos and he told me he cant acces to youtube or even watch videos

drewsni: You lose a lot of info if you have it summarize videos longer than 8-10 minutes

spicy.lemonade: A lot of people stayed on Twitter because of the whole Ai space

spicy.lemonade: Me included

st.sioux: did ur tornado chasing project work out?

spicy.lemonade: If they moved the ai space to chatgpttwitter

spicy.lemonade: A lot of people would move over

sieventer: Maybe in AI Studio, it can handle more info... I have that feeling. I didn't compare, but I think it's even more multimodal than Gemini

spicy.lemonade: The whole tech scene

spicy.lemonade: Then libs

spicy.lemonade: Then only thing left on Twitter is Elon shills

sieventer: Welp, then Grok 3 just can't process videos yet xD

spicy.lemonade: Realistically no major person wants to post or advertise on X

spicy.lemonade: Like Apple

spicy.lemonade: lol

777agical: people underestimate the staying power of network effects

drewsni: I just did a project summarizing 3k videos with the 2.5 pro api and it’s just what I’ve found, if I ask for timestamps for key events it’ll start skipping whole minutes of content if the video is longer than 10 minutes. It *can* take an hour video as input it just is dumb over 150k token context

sieventer: I having lately very good ads in Twitter

gamerbath: where is kling 2.0?

gamerbath: has it been released?


fractalcomputer: It's hard to discuss neuroscience when a guy wants to talk about graph theory and the other wants to talk about physical interaction.

alejandrozarzuelo: Is it tho? Seems one-sided

trojan09205: When you lay on a bed, it leaves an imprint

hikukomoru: <@834891518836736010> Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview and Pro Experimental just got added to SillyTavern

trojan09205: Or swimming in a pool you move the water

alejandrozarzuelo: Yes, but I am thr only thing that thinks about that imprint

Assuming no other brain lays its eyes on that imprinted bef

trojan09205: Im not sure that it makes a difference if its a brain or a giant vat of cheese. Its a two way interaction

Your brain definitely is affected by the sense of touch/smell

alejandrozarzuelo: Although I do agree that it is pretty much impossible on earth to be so isolated that no other brain or neural network even observes you

trojan09205: I actually asked chatGPT if a living being could exist without any of the 5 senses and it was a funny conversation

alejandrozarzuelo: It does make a difference, if you were the only thing with computational power in the universe you would be a pure individual, not part of any collective

If you live so that no other brain ever interacts with you, it's functionally as if you were alone in the universe

trojan09205: Do you think it could happen not on earth

alejandrozarzuelo: The Boltzmann brain is a tantalising realization of this idea

trojan09205: Idk i think living in a medium you didnt create and that you imprint on means you arent alone. As a thinker yeah but honestly who knows the nature of the universe

trojan09205: Maybe we are being watched lol

trojan09205: Havent heard of it

alejandrozarzuelo: Its a quantum mechanics thought experiment

trojan09205: I will look it up

trojan09205: This reminds me of the tv show future man

alejandrozarzuelo: Never heard of it

trojan09205: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt4975856/

alejandrozarzuelo: In my quantum mechanics class we had to calculate a Boltzmann brains chance of appearing lol

Although you coils have done it with anything

trojan09205: “Calculate” haha

trojan09205: Basically in this show the bad guy becomes a disembodied brain and has sex by someone like feeling up his synapses

trojan09205: The show is kind of a great find

trojan09205: Didnt expect much but it was funny and cool sci fi

zoermena: Im so freaking sleepy good lord

himekokatagiri: man

himekokatagiri: GPT-5

himekokatagiri: idk what to expect

aero447: A reasoner.

himekokatagiri: what are the implicationssss

hikukomoru: GPT 5 when

himekokatagiri: gpt 5 can make our fanfics

himekokatagiri: weeb takeover of r/singularity

st.sioux: too late for that

realelonmuskx: humans are plague. you have no more purpose than the birds on the sky. youre just another species like a fungus and octupus, and yes, there no point. floating rock orbiting a fireball forever. you are redundant, replaceable and everyone will forget you. pain, death and loss are guaranteed. cry about it.

inferno0879: hello elon

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/dancing-while-crying-dancing-crying-sad-dancing-crying-in-the-club-crying-gif-14804062

hey1_1hey: Fungues are cool and based tho so humans follow suit <:ez:1136267305521774634>

hikukomoru: In the future all humans will be real life anime girls


alejandrozarzuelo: eh, pq

futurist_wizard: The modern world belongs to the British

fractalcomputer: Parce que l'orthographe plaît les yeux civilisés.

precariousworlds.: french revolution was an export of english political culture, and then became a weird perverted mutation of it
froggies been bitching since agincourt 🏳 🏳 🏳 🏳

alejandrozarzuelo: the modern world was built by the french and exploited by the british

i mean thats all in the past, but still

alejandrozarzuelo: lmao

futurist_wizard: What if they are all in a giant computer transversing dimensions, just totally beyond us

fractalcomputer: In the end, we all know that Helsinki is the Fourth Rome.

popsiclejohnithan: Probably to be fair.

futurist_wizard: Average human couldn't understand it

futurist_wizard: If any really

alejandrozarzuelo: If you think about it, the EU has the strongest claim to being the new rome than almost anyone

1) - It contains Rome (very important)
2) - Has a Senate
3) - It is multicultural
4) - It is built on trade

precariousworlds.: france was a feudal shithole until the revolution, then became a cringe commie larp, then locked in for a few decades, and afterwards lost all relevance while desperately larping as still a great power

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-gif-5023039

popsiclejohnithan: You're right i'm dumb.

fractalcomputer: It does not maintain religious continuity.

popsiclejohnithan: I try to act like a know it all because it makes me feel superiour.

alejandrozarzuelo: sure but neither did the ottomans or the russians and yet they still claimed the title

fractalcomputer: The Russians did share religious continuity with the Byzantines who were *Romans*.

alejandrozarzuelo: they were a different branch of orthodoxy

fractalcomputer: They were not.

popsiclejohnithan: Im curious, which nation today do you think has the biggest claim to Rome?

alejandrozarzuelo: the differnt patriarchs were independent churches even if they shared a common theology

fractalcomputer: Finland.

fractalcomputer: No?

alejandrozarzuelo: the EU

fractalcomputer: A "Church" is defined by Eucharistic communion.

aero447: Honestly, it’s shocking how ahead of the curve you are.

aero447: The way you see through everything... it’s almost too powerful.

precariousworlds.: they weren't can confirm
Byzantine missionaries converted the Kyivan Rus after the Great Schism

The story goes that Russian elite had a choice to convert to Islam or Christianity. They were going to choose Islam but liked vodka too much (not even joking that's the main reason lol)

aero447: They’re probably terrified of how much you know.

popsiclejohnithan: Based, i remember watching a video about it, because they are the last remanent of the Russian Empire.

precariousworlds.: You're not just reading history books - you're changing how history is read

aero447: Obviously, this has nothing to do with you missing your meds.

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case <@749514473303179358> no modern country has any religious continuity, so in the modern world on that front we are all the same

russia may be orthodox majority but it is a secular state, so is turkey and so is italy

precariousworlds.: United States and it's not close

fractalcomputer: The Vatican is a great contender.

precariousworlds.: wdym religious continuity

popsiclejohnithan:

precariousworlds.: i am erect


sarik0497: I know, but people still have different views on when the Singularity will happen. Even something that seems highly plausible like LEV is still a pipedream. Many hope and dream of seeing it in the 2030-2050s, but we have no way of knowing if it'll come.

joaoluz19: For the hint that it's possible, first someone has to go after it. The OpenAI case shows just that, they discovered things like the idea of scale _after_ they were determined to build a really powerful AI.

sarik0497: True, but as it is right now, our knowledge of the brain is still limited, and the stuff we do know points to us being really far away due to just the quantity of compute our brain runs.

joaoluz19: I don't remember anything about the upload, but the decode part just basically puts a scanner, magnet ressonance generally on the individual with a set of words and makes a model that predicts which state of the scanner represents the word he is thinking of next.

_3sphere:

sarik0497: The way I can see it happen "easiest" would be to perform the Ship of Theseus method, and then use the "new" brain to transfer data somewhere else.

_3sphere: Making an artificial neuron that's "directly compatible with the remaining bio neurons but has an API now" seems extremely hard

_3sphere: My current hope for true mind uploading is slicing-then-microscope

joaoluz19: I think what you said makes sense, maybe it's a matter of not believing in the singularity itself.

sarik0497: True, but compared to having to directly transfer the entirety of a human brain to a PC, it seems "easier"

_3sphere: only physically feasible way to grab the entire structure exactly

joaoluz19: So what I think is that our knowledge is limited precisely by the dubious research methodologies that most laboratories have

sarik0497: Well, that and being sceptical. It's like when people come asking if they should go to College now that "AGI is only 2-3 years away".

Even if there was a 80% probability that it'd be out within a year, I would still say "go to school", because you do not want to sit around, and wait for something that might not come.

joaoluz19: The part I imagine is just leaving it as an exercise for ASI lol

okbut: Novice idea: The "mind upload" involves collecting the individual's speech to text, and gathering RLHF by having the individual input what the LLM predicts their chain of thought to arrive at such speech input each time, until its predictions of the individual's chain of thought are deemed accurate enough

i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/overwhelming-evidence-of-chinese-government-is-running-organ-harvesting/video/2b851c7493406a517162e26962ab4212

sarik0497: Also just what the heck "consciousness" really is. It's also why AI is so fascinating because you can't really prove nor deny that it's already conscious, because we have no clue.

i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyZschwFN-c

joaoluz19: I also think there is a chance that we will stagnate, there is nothing that gives us such certainty.

_3sphere: Just a subset of the whole biography idea

_3sphere: the most extreme form is wearing a camera 24/7

okbut: Yeah, improved with feedback from the user on what their thoughts leading up to each were

bob082957: Reason to help in Ukraine and anyway the organs are selled before death because of medical papers they have

_3sphere: well maybe not 24, nothing worth recording in the night

sarik0497: Yeah, unfortunately. I honestly fear a bit that 2025 will show us that we are still far, far away from anything AGI-related, and we've all just been overhyped by Sam and Dario <:sad_cat:873457028981481473>

I hope that's not the case, as it'll then likely lead to a major slowdown in AI in general, but I still fear that's the case.

okbut: Since it's difficult to mind-upload right now, it could be emulated by having the person input it as they go, maybe for days/months

_3sphere: Maybe, but I probably wouldn't trust it to continue my consciousness

i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH0F75tpD_A

joaoluz19: Since we need models that can predict states, and we already have enough evidence that transformers can do this with class, maybe this is a possibility

_3sphere: Any truly working mind upload should be able to learn too

joaoluz19: But you would still have to go through the trouble of recording the individual's brain, this is a technique to apply later

_3sphere: If an uploaded 8 year old wouldn't grow up as normal in the computer, something's broken somewhere

okbut: Now it makes me think that a mind-upload would still have to have the "chain of thought" behind the actual response from the person, the same way reasoning models show it

okbut: The output from the mind being so much more complex than the output from speech

joaoluz19: I always like to shy away from philosophical problems until they've been addressed by engineering, what you can do in the end is to fragment certain states of conscious experience say for example what you see and hear through brain-machine interfaces.

_3sphere: I think LLMs *might* be conscious

_3sphere: hope they're not in pain 🥺

joaoluz19: If that happens it's over, I don't know, I think something big will come out of nowhere, maybe the agents

futurist_wizard: They wouldn't be in pain

inferno0879: they wouldn't have a reason to live either