_3sphere: goober implies goobing

wellmeaningalien: It's all oh the latest model is not wildly better in every way than the model that released a week ago

wellmeaningalien: Retards big improvements like this used to take years

wellmeaningalien:

futurist_wizard: A goober is a foolish person

hikukomoru: Yeah it's a higher IQ server

wellmeaningalien: You're not even in it

hikukomoru: Don't threaten me with a good time

wellmeaningalien: It's a more autistic server that I'd say

hikukomoru: Yeah not with this account

wellmeaningalien: Why

futurist_wizard:

.wolfnacht: BeaverAI is much better but it gets horny really quick

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/floch-attack-on-titan-shhh-yeagerists-shhh-anime-gif-25010228

wellmeaningalien: Nigga

futurist_wizard: I have i think 20 alts on all servers simultaneously

hikukomoru: Don't say the n word

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715

hikukomoru:

wellmeaningalien: Boohoohoohoo

wellmeaningalien:

_3sphere: I can smell it thinking about it ☠

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: Thoughts on this big dudes

wellmeaningalien: I think this is pretty uge

wellmeaningalien: I cant wait for tech like this to become universal

futurist_wizard: I'll believe it when i see it

wellmeaningalien: True true true

futurist_wizard: Its always HUGE until its released

futurist_wizard: And then

wellmeaningalien: Ok fair with OpenAI its like

futurist_wizard: Disappointmwnt

wellmeaningalien: Tons of edging and then its shit lol

futurist_wizard: Yeah

futurist_wizard: And singularity eats it up every single time

zonchao: sama says he is "super excited" about every damn thing

wellmeaningalien: I guess o1 was really the last good thing they made then we had o3 but that was a nothingburger

wellmeaningalien: Claude 3.5/3.7 Sonnet and Gemini 2.0 Flash/Gemini 2.5 Pro were much more impressive

futurist_wizard: Sama is excited about showing us his massive black hole, like who cares, we'll probably be disappointed


hikukomoru: <@1004153620025065482> 👈

joaoluz19: 😮

hey1_1hey: Futureist blonde and clock fool are the same person?

joaoluz19: That was funny ngl

hey1_1hey: hill*

hikukomoru: I remember when he was Futurist Retard

futurist_wizard: Yeah that's the thing you need to correct

futurist_wizard: Not the futureist

hey1_1hey: Futureist is a really hard word to spell

futurist_wizard: Futurist Hill died unfortunately

futurist_wizard: He got into a car crash

_3sphere: Mine is already consumed by degeneracy there none left for you sorry 😋

joaoluz19: It's over

hey1_1hey: You would think how much I talk about AI you would think that I would be amazing at spelling the word intelegent. I dont think I've spelled that word first try in my life

hey1_1hey: Real

hey1_1hey: God rest his soul, I'll put in a good word for him for when ASI comes

hikukomoru: Good riddance

hikukomoru: I prefered Futurist Blonde anyways

joaoluz19: 10 billion waifus with 10 billion different me connected same time wow

joaoluz19: This is the dream

himekokatagiri: I just want one

joaoluz19: Harem 4D

himekokatagiri: or none idk

futurist_wizard: Futurist label no more

hikukomoru: 1 waifu is enough

alejandrozarzuelo: Didn't leave, fractal and I jusr don't get along, decided to have a détente, I'm here again

hey1_1hey: Welcome back

joaoluz19: 1 quadrillion

hikukomoru: Seeing couples fight is so sad

joaoluz19: Bro you have to accept the glorious evolution

hey1_1hey: I came to see what the chatter was about because I had some free time and I just se a wall of messages of you and Fractla aruging and then I see you left and I was like "Oh here we go again, Alejnadro has to sleep on the couch again"

joaoluz19: We are so back

hey1_1hey: Why don't you and Fractal get along? Something to do with applied mathamatics or smth or other

hey1_1hey: Thats what Fractal is usually mad about

hey1_1hey: Or philopshy

futurist_wizard: Singularity man

hikukomoru: Also what is a détente, just speak English please

himekokatagiri: He's called Microsoft because that's his dick

alejandrozarzuelo: It is English, I jusr like to use gallicisms from time to time that's all

alejandrozarzuelo: I think it gives it a bit of gravitas


alejandrozarzuelo: for example, india has a lower inequality than the US, but the 10/90 ratio is higher

why?

because in the US there is an extremely wealthy class that is very very small that india has less of, this makes the US concengration of income worse than india, however what india has is an "upper class" consisting of the top 5-10% of the population basically living like in a developed european country while the rest of the country is very poor

this upper class isnt as obscenely wealthy as in the US pushing indian inequality lower than america's but they accumulate a larger share of the national income

alejandrozarzuelo: TlDr: there are many kinds of inequality and its harder than just having a simple number

futurist_wizard: Yeah i agree i would say there is no strong candidate on the democrats side though, they are all bland and come off as very ingenious which was true for the republicans for while until trump

alejandrozarzuelo: i love buttegieg, i think he is the meme/tech/podcast savyest democrat and i think currently he has the best image

he annoys leftists but thats kinda inevitable

alejandrozarzuelo: AOC also is like this, she has a great image, but she is ptobably too far left to be president

alejandrozarzuelo: i think Buttegieg is probably the dems strongest candidate

futurist_wizard: I also like buttegieg, and annoying leftists is easy because you just need to be for the statue quo instead of breaking things and revolutions and the such

alejandrozarzuelo: for the record I think they are all burgeois shills that will not solve the US's problems and will continue the deterioration of the proletariat at home and abroad as they all support the US geopolitical structure and unfetchered capitalism that will prove very dangerous with an ASI

BUT they are not fascists

alejandrozarzuelo: i think that if he is the nominate for 2028 the dems have a better chance than with any of the currently prominent candidates

and while a new candidate could emmerge victorious, a person with little name recohnizeability will struggle to be more electable than buttegieg

futurist_wizard: Which bourgeois shills are you talking about? There are many that are totally against the US

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean the dems

trent_k:

spicy.lemonade: 2 days after my birthday

gamerbath: great! why did they say 2025 anyway?

alejandrozarzuelo: Me when I talk abstractly about politics

VS

Me when an US election comes and the democratic candidate isn't a fascist

trent_k:

trent_k: <@430269783112548362>

trent_k: I'm predicting a rise in the number of people with a down syndrome fetish

trent_k: they're usually built a bit like a fridge, no offense to any down syndrome fellas in the chat

trent_k: if your feed is full of people with a down syndrome face but a hot body, what is the social consequence of that happening to a ton of people

alejandrozarzuelo: 96% of down syndrome fetuses get aborted in europe

alejandrozarzuelo: and i think that in most countries with abortion legal the number is similar

alejandrozarzuelo: in fact there has never been so few down syndrome people around

alejandrozarzuelo: many orgs say this is down genocide, but this is hard to square for them, since they try to appeal to the left but the left is pro abortion and the right doesnt like degenerates

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, i see plenty of older down syndrome people but very very few young ones

okbut: <:Hmm:804642320195780619>

trent_k: it's for this reason that I unironically think Chris Chan's art will be in a museum one day

trent_k: he is part of a dying breed of person

trent_k: one day there won't be anyone like him left

alejandrozarzuelo: idk who that is

trent_k: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgxj_0xPleg&list=PLABqEYq6H3vpCmsmyUnHnfMOeAnjBdSNm
watch this series. it's about 85 hours. this will get you mostly up to speed

alejandrozarzuelo: lmao

alejandrozarzuelo: no time 4 that

trent_k: just put off your schoolwork. it can wait

trent_k: stop going to class for about 5 days

trojan09205: Sonichu

trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/chris-chan-ok-okay-okay-sign-cwc-gif-5525518948499734838

trent_k: sonichu is a biblical demon that chris accidentally summoned

trent_k:

trent_k: 🤘


777agical: they need to get this show going again

trent_k: having tried o3 and gemini 2.5 pro it's really close

trent_k: o3 feels a bit smarter but less personable, so i mostly use gemini 2.5 pro unless i think a problem i have is very hard

trent_k: idk, at this point I think like 95% of the stuff I'm doing with these models is not really pushing them to their limits, and so it hardly matters which model I'm using as long as it's one of the frontier ones that hit that special point

okbut: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1364696550890278965 big

trent_k: I see they have it in gh copilot now too

trent_k: i might have to try cursor again though

trent_k: gh copilot has been getting enshittified lately

okbut: I've yet to taste test Cursor

trojan09205: Gemini 2.5 actually recommended a pretty good movie

trojan09205: “Paterson”

professorheaven: When they say best are they only talking about capability? Because best overall is definitely 2.5 pro with its price to performance ratio but capability wise I feel like it’s tied with o3

nsec: guys

nsec: what

nsec: if

nsec: asi

nsec: TODAY

nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>

nsec: I had a dream anthropic announced it

nsec: gotta be real

nsec: the baselisk is forwarning me

nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>

nsec: this is proof that the mantle of heaven is lost to elon rn

nsec: this is also proof ai benchmarks are useless how tf med better than high at the same task <:Jerry_Wat:1125367774957539338>

.histic: facts.

joaoluz19: https://youtu.be/IdzXbIW9kxY

joaoluz19: Penrose and Zizek in the same debate lol

drewsni: Hot take, current coding “agents” from cursor, windsurf, vscode actually just slow you down and produce worse code than if you were to just prompt pro 2.5 on aistudio

joaoluz19: You have 2 hours here in Brazil

drewsni: Overthinking, which you’d understand if you checked out the deepguessr bench 😉

spicy.lemonade: Spent a whole class debating my literature professor at Berkeley on AI

spicy.lemonade: That was crazy

spicy.lemonade: They were stuck in 2024

spicy.lemonade: “4o just spits out text”

spicy.lemonade: Me: let me introduce you to the reasoning paradigm

ldj: What about V0 and lovable versus ai studio

ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>

campionunbound: https://spacenews.com/darpa-requests-proposals-for-water-prospecting-lunar-orbiter/

campionunbound: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/advancing-artificial-intelligence-education-for-american-youth/

ldj: The artists are going to hate this one 😭


mihrcelium:

drewsni: this is where someone questions me and i brag about having an oai pro sub jan of 2023

mihrcelium: I haven't done shit with mine except realize how awful Sora is and useless deep researches on America's progression into fascism. But now we're cookin'.

.histic: <@578146630222741504> if we have a misaligned AGI, hopefully skynet wipes them out first.

anathemaofmankind: Based

memlaswaif: these vids will age veryy badly

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Now ai

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Lolll

spicy.lemonade: 1 min looks better

spicy.lemonade: than what took him 9 hours

st.sioux: now art is going to be rated based on how long it took to make

st.sioux: what a timeline

brain4brain: When UBI is announced, I hope they split it into two part, give them half so they can’t bitch about AI anymore, but keep the other half because of “hate speech against AI”

mihrcelium: At the risk of reviving an old tired spiel, I think an AGI aligned with current human power structures will be the real threat vector.

spicy.lemonade: unironically

spicy.lemonade: theres more inconsitencies

spicy.lemonade: in his art

spicy.lemonade: than the ai

spicy.lemonade: cause he had to trace the car

brain4brain: AI could do it in a few minutes to the same level of quality

okbut: I've been thinking of how long it used to take for an image to load when internet ran on Dial-up

spicy.lemonade: it did

brain4brain: Plot twist: it’s AI

brain4brain: “Hey look, I wasted thousands of hours of my life in this stupid pixel you all will look at for only a few seconds!”

brain4brain: These artist are annoying

brain4brain:

mihrcelium: Unrelatedly, where's <@1149403958973050910>?

anathemaofmankind: Hopefully they all lose their jobs and go homeless

mihrcelium: I don't think Nadoora has said anything since December on this server.

brain4brain: Arabic Sam Altman is in the lab somewhere in the Middle East

brain4brain: I hope they lose their job, and I hope they temporarily go homeless

brain4brain: But the AGI is all-loving, it shall bring peace to all

brain4brain:

anathemaofmankind: Luddites are so short sighted it's crazy.

Instead of seeing the bigger picture or identifying that the current economic system is the problem, they go out and harass people who use AI tools and use arbitrary critiques like it's "Soulless".

They stoke the flames of my misanthropy

spicy.lemonade: AI math is souless

spicy.lemonade: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

spicy.lemonade: only humans should be solving math olympiad problems

.histic: it's pretty sad when someone's response to something undeniably better than them is to dismiss it as bad and soulless. it's the biggest cope of all time.


st.sioux: He is relevant

st.sioux: Nuclear power

wellmeaningalien: barely

maintcrew:

wellmeaningalien: aha

wellmeaningalien: all hes known for

wellmeaningalien: o thank u lord trump

st.sioux: And now that trump is pulling out of NATO they're going to be the dominant military power in europe (or germany idk)

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien:

maintcrew:

maintcrew: <#1136231504440201216> pls

maintcrew: dont ruin the vibe nerd

st.sioux: salty lol

maintcrew:

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

wellmeaningalien: hard

gamerbath: steven holstrum

zonchao: https://x.com/orphcorp/status/1904970431947325608?

hikukomoru: Ram and Rem 🥵 🥵 👅 👅

maintcrew: throwback to this masterpiece of twitter drama

_cloudost: Why are they so obsessed with AI art then if they think AI art has no value, make it make sense

st.sioux: their jobs

_cloudost: they were always jobless

wellmeaningalien: only rem i know is this rem

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/trigun-trigun-98-reminder-saturday-rem-saverem-gif-9176297563309469502

maintcrew: <@430269783112548362> tf u mean 🤨 u seriously don't remember?

hikukomoru: Furry inflation artists 💔 💔

ailoveyoom: No I mean his expression lol

wellmeaningalien: oh my god did the pop do thise with angela murkul 😲

_cloudost: They are 24/7 constantly on anti AI subs, instead of fixing their lives

wellmeaningalien: alzheimer

wellmeaningalien: man it happened 1 and a half year ago already

wellmeaningalien: 💀 <@749514473303179358>

_cloudost: artists and marxists have so much in common

hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> Generate me 🫦 🫦

maintcrew:

_cloudost: Generate a drawing of her building AGI

.histic: <@1316552597829586955> have you tried generating light yagami writing in his death note?


neon01197: got o4-mini as a free user aswell

spicy.lemonade: The perimeter of a 10-by-10 square field is surrounded by lasers pointing into the field. (Each laser begins half a unit from the edge of the field, as indicated by the •’s.)

Some of the lasers have numbers beside them. Place diagonal mirrors in some of the cells so that the product of the segment lengths of a laser’s path matches the clue numbers. (For instance, the segments for the “75” path in the example puzzle have lengths 5, 3, 5.) Mirrors may not be placed in orthogonally adjacent cells.

Once finished, determine the missing clue numbers for the perimeter, and calculate the sum of these clues for each side of the square. The answer to this puzzle is the product of these four sums.

neon01197: dey fast

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411

neon01197: dam

neon01197: free o4-mini with search

spicy.lemonade: dammit it just searched for the source of puzzle

spicy.lemonade: ok that wont work

spicy.lemonade: lol

hey1_1hey: Tell it not too use search

abundantliving_: https://x.com/github/status/1912551942376600041

anathemaofmankind: What the shit

anathemaofmankind: OAI keeps giving me reasons not to renew

spicy.lemonade: o4 full will have 90% swe bench

spicy.lemonade: increases by 20%

spicy.lemonade: each time

anathemaofmankind: Does this mean recursive self improvement already

hikukomoru: Is that enough to replace most programmers

hey1_1hey: Check in in 3 months to see if there is another 20% jump

hikukomoru: They actually mentioned RSI very briefly

hikukomoru: 3 months for o4 full

hikukomoru: I'm going to die

hey1_1hey: Its not fast enough, I am going to be out of education by then and then I finally have to get a job <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

return_to_monke1_33974: we have 2 years left until we are decomposed to molecular level to be used as compute material for the ASI <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600><:doomer:1136265388473196644>

return_to_monke1_33974: just like  me fr fr

anathemaofmankind: I'm graduating in 2 years so I hope this is true

popsiclejohnithan: I always wanted to be a part of God.

_cloudost:

popsiclejohnithan:

popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/DaveShapi/status/1912561027574632527

anathemaofmankind: This dude is delusional

777agical: https://x.com/shiringhaffary/status/1912569808777859506?s=46

popsiclejohnithan: We shall see.

otub: loud incorrect buzzer

popsiclejohnithan: What shrooms does to a mf.

hikukomoru: Someone should buy Anthropic too

hikukomoru: They can't compete by themselves anymore

a1c4p0ne: Dario said they’re only focusing on enterprise


.wolfnacht: they made it 10M just to make people widen their eyebrows and eyes for a moment

.histic: saw this

sweetievee__33649: same tbh

wellmeaningalien: mid

wellmeaningalien: yeah they just post that shit to make them look good

sweetievee__33649: i better be able to erp with my dnd characters

wellmeaningalien: too afraid to post actually good benchmarks

wellmeaningalien: 🫣

3ds0662: its official

hey1_1hey: ewww

hey1_1hey: instagram reels

wellmeaningalien: cant shrug me because every company does this

EZ#5938: https://embedez.com/embed/search_67f189f4c1f68b5845967773

hey1_1hey: Thats where all the racist people are at apart from twitter <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

steven_the_frog: Fuck needle in the haystack. They should have a benchmark evaluating adding features to a 10M token codebase

wellmeaningalien: the llama 4 benchmark numbers feel soo cherrypicked. xai openai claude they all do this lol

3ds0662: its official

wellmeaningalien: we're gonna see what independent testers will have to say lol

.wolfnacht: i believe in a conspiracy theory that - the nvidia, amd and intel doesn't want people to run llm models at home with a consumer pricepoint.

st.sioux: instagram is just full of npcs

3ds0662: he’s open sourcing llama4 🦙

hey1_1hey: I just remember everyone saying that theres just gore

futurist_wizard: I find Instagram alright but facebook is no good

hey1_1hey: Like fucking everywhere

3ds0662: https://tenor.com/view/dancing-groove-groovy-grooving-jam-gif-23323897

wellmeaningalien: yeah honestly i'd just say that's becaue they're more gearing their models towards enterprise now and they dont really give a fuck bout entheusiasts like us

fractalcomputer: Zuckerberg is a nincompoop.

hikukomoru: Yeah

st.sioux: im running a quantized uncensored r1 right now on 16gb vram

wellmeaningalien: ❤

.wolfnacht: the centralization and barriers...

futurist_wizard: Never noticed zucky has a crooked nose

hey1_1hey: Does he?

futurist_wizard: Its bent

sweetievee__33649: yeah always has done

.wolfnacht: how many minutes per token are you getting ?

hey1_1hey: Deviated septum ahh

wellmeaningalien: brb doxxing myself on meta's site to get llama 4

wellmeaningalien: im gonna see if i can still manage to run the smallest model

.wolfnacht: what are you trying to tell here ?


hey1_1hey: Then can you make him wear appropriate mushroom attire

maintcrew:

spicy.lemonade: it keeps giving me code

futurist_wizard: Nice

spicy.lemonade: nomater how i prompt

spicy.lemonade:

futurist_wizard: You ain't vegan

hikukomoru: No I'm not
I love burgers

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: bruh

spicy.lemonade: bro can we turn this shit off

spicy.lemonade: 💀

futurist_wizard:

hikukomoru: Disappointing
Vibe check failed

hey1_1hey: I dont like this anime anymore

hey1_1hey: Absolute mushroom slander

ailoveyoom: I think if you use the word upscale it does Code Interpreter stuff instead

3ds0662:

.histic: can u send me that image lol

hikukomoru: Ilya jumpscare:

ailoveyoom: Maybe like, "generate HD version of this" or something

3ds0662: Best it could do

maintcrew: not me

3ds0662: Should I try gpt-4.5 instead?

spicy.lemonade: bruh still have dalle sad

st.sioux: its even blurrier lol

hey1_1hey: Same here, I was gonna ask it the same prompt from a while back to see the difference. It went something along the lines of what do you think my life looks like now, 5 years in the future, 10, 25, 100 etc etc

3ds0662: Both models failed 4.5 and 4o

3ds0662:

3ds0662: 4.5

wellmeaningalien: just say "can u make this image clearer"

3ds0662: To which one?

wellmeaningalien: 4o

3ds0662: Ok

wellmeaningalien: 4.5 doesnt have image gen at least i believe lol

3ds0662:

3ds0662: Your prompt lol 😂

3ds0662: What model can though?

wellmeaningalien: ok lets talk about this new brampton model for a second, what the fuck are these benchmarks???

wellmeaningalien: like, we joke about big labs posting about graphs based off vibes but


drewsni: Guys I had a dream that we are getting 4o native image and Gemini pro today

spicy.lemonade:

literallyvarane: What’s the sauce for that?

spicy.lemonade: top left

spicy.lemonade: me

spicy.lemonade: im the source

spicy.lemonade: lol

literallyvarane: You personally have access??

spicy.lemonade: yes

_3sphere: I had a dream where I was digging for something important in a pile of garbage <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>

literallyvarane: Oh shit maybe it is real

_3sphere: How am I not feeling the AGI while dreaming ywt

spicy.lemonade: this is batshit

hey1_1hey: I had a dream about the tf2 2fort cow

drewsni: Who the FUCK clown reacted me

popsiclejohnithan: Only three months into this year as well.

joaoluz19: Man I need to take a 8 month break from AI news

spicy.lemonade: wayyyyyy beter than o3 mini high

precariousworlds.: I had a dream where I was wandering the desert with this weird drug addicted tribe
At our destination I saw millions bow beneath my feet and depart for a holy war in my name

gamerbath: so gemini is finally leading in something that isn't latency, speed or cost?

precariousworlds.: gaymini will be topped by the end of the week watch
google will lose

_3sphere: Any memory of what they were fighting for

literallyvarane: TBD, but maybe

precariousworlds.: a green paradise instead of a desert

_3sphere: Doesn't sound particularly holy

gamerbath: google is just 35%, 25% for end of april. I was expecting this to have shot up by now, so I guess gemini 2.5 pro won't topple the lmsys leaderboard?

trent_k: flash 2.0 is goated. if u disagree its a skill issue. i will not elaborate

st.sioux: xai 59%??

joaoluz19: Good AI week for me => solve Riemman hypothesis, solve nuclear fusion, solve 2B full body with nanobots, full automation of white-collar jobs

trent_k: big overlap between crypto people who love xitter and polymarket users

sarik0497: More competition is better for us.

Make the U.S. shit their pants and suddenly having to speed up a bit.

gamerbath: yea grok 3 is currently on the top

gamerbath: lmsys is used to determine the "best AI model"

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-blasphemy-silence-stop-gif-563526331118421784

hey1_1hey: Pretty pessimistic I'd say.

_3sphere: Wanting grass is not a religious reason

sarik0497: Not even FDVR so you can sit in a quiet cottage, with snow slowly dropping outside, and it’s just you and Fractal talking philosophy?

Weirdo..

.wolfnacht: still no API since 1 month

hey1_1hey: Right anyway, I have already done my maths for today but I want to go do some more since I brought these new pens that are very nice to write with

hey1_1hey: ta ra all


st.sioux: i love my favorite band skikoot

hey1_1hey: I dont know if I should be thankful or ashamed

hey1_1hey: Good band innit

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

hey1_1hey: Never was

realelonmuskx: no you wont little meat puppet, you are not needed, not special, wont leave a mark, and no one will neither. this is monkey mmo survival game pay to exist

wellmeaningalien: i pay like so low cause im so poor

maintcrew: i mean... just go one country over to germany or whoever has it legal and get it there???

zoermena: I can attest to this, I was in this short course about data analytics and I swear to you I didn't put any level of attention for 5 weeks, I got medicated two days before the final exam and I studied all of the material in one morning, same day of the exam. I got an 87/100. So yes you do become einstein.

wellmeaningalien: Yeah i could do it in belgium but im POOR BRO

hikukomoru: Wrong

maintcrew: go work nerd

zoermena: <:this:1136266732542119946>

wellmeaningalien: yea why didnt i think of that wow

wellmeaningalien: <a:facepalm:1224737123911995542>

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-walk-walking-gif-3311223081607307352

hikukomoru: Doesn't look as gay now
Still very gay, but 1% less

maintcrew: sorry i shouldve censored the trigger word w*rk

zoermena: It fucking felt like this.

wellmeaningalien: bro you're gonna scare off the unemployed gooners waiting for asi waifu

zoermena: I'm now on a mission to get back to my peak

hey1_1hey: God I wish I had meds. I would be an unstopable machine

a1c4p0ne:

futurist_wizard: I do get brain dog though on elvanse

wellmeaningalien: still need to try this lion's mane thing you say it makes you like god or something

.wolfnacht: why ppl in these NEET servers are so cringe ?

futurist_wizard: Like quite a bit

hikukomoru: Wtf why does he have a gun

maintcrew: i mean why not try the good old redbull+zyn stack it works for me

wellmeaningalien: im never going back on ritalin but im going to try to get like medikinet or whatever they have in france

a1c4p0ne: It’s Geminis idea

a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>

zoermena: They call us cringe, I call us epic.

wellmeaningalien: this server is the most schizo NEET server ever

hikukomoru: Aren't you a neet

maintcrew: i am employed

wellmeaningalien: bro i used to drink like one monster everyday

wellmeaningalien: sometimes a monster + red bull

.wolfnacht: >problem with you

everyone says this but idc.

maintcrew: 🔥 🔥 🔥


zonchao: nope. 4.1 could still be better at code

st.sioux:

anathemaofmankind: China number one

hikukomoru: Mommy Gemini spoiled us too much

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474

iamsleak: how does it compare to Gemini-2.5-Pro-Exp-03-25 for instance? all you see is openai models in the benchmarks..

drewsni: 2.5 probably uses 10x the tokens per coding request

fractalcomputer: I love presenting quantified intelligence with no numerical reference.

literallyvarane: Honest the real question is where 2.5 Flash falls. That *could* kill these models.

hikukomoru: It's dumber and more expensive

777agical: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1911831700964872531?s=46

zoermena: Ah so 4.1 is cheaper misinformation!!!

benata: OpenAI is not until they make a model that is actually cheap

zonchao: brother

zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>

zonchao: nano is literally free

benata: nano is shit

benata: like literal shit

benata: deepseek is better

anathemaofmankind: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>

spicy.lemonade: deepseek is heavily distiled for math

spicy.lemonade: they always have

shirethedreamer: everything has numerical reference except latency which you can see one table to the left in the general and cost comparison

zonchao: this is a model just for vibe coding, will have to see how it works

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/my-deer-friend-nokotan-nokotan-koshitan-dancing-dance-gif-712492189138071330

benata: COPE IN CHAT

benata: OPENAI COPE

anathemaofmankind: When is Deepseerk R2 releasing

hikukomoru: Google bros we can't stop winning

anathemaofmankind: Isn't it in April

ailoveyoom: What's the pricing gang

benata: Logan KillOpenAItrick

theaiguy69420_89814: eh

shirethedreamer: free this week then

theaiguy69420_89814: i think google got em tho

shirethedreamer:

zonchao: only on windsurf tho

theaiguy69420_89814: this is like 2.0 flash level conversational intel

theaiguy69420_89814: and its like 5x the price

benata: google got openai by the balls


anathemaofmankind: "In some"

So narrow domains like AlphaGo

precariousworlds.: what about terrence howard

destrucules: "AGI" in modern parlance does not distinguish between general and narrow intelligence. "AGI" in modern parlance means an AI that can outperform virtually all humans at the vast majority of economically valuable tasks. Modern AIs are already generally intelligent and that has been true for a half dozen years already.

precariousworlds.: More general now

anathemaofmankind: AGI just means artificial general intelligence.

Your definition sounds like ASI

destrucules: I mean, by the same token, your average salmon is smarter than you "at the aquatic world"

anathemaofmankind: Outperform all humans is ASI

popsiclejohnithan: To be fair, i doubt it will be a long gap between A.G.I. and A.S.I.

precariousworlds.: I mean LLMs already have a conception for that based on training data
The vast majority of humans are the same with 1 + 1, the average person doesn't know it's wrong because of complex mathematical proof and how numerical systems work (people have surface level comprehension compared to actual deep mathematics), it is just because we have learnt with basic logical systems that 1 thing and another thing means two things, LLMs have the same thought process

fractalcomputer: The 1 + 1 ≠ 2 isn't really the best example, since that has nothing to do with empirical verification.

precariousworlds.: we have nuclear powered submarines in every sea of the earth, i think we are the masters of the ocean

spicy.lemonade: how

a1c4p0ne: stockfish

destrucules: It's not my definition. I am actually very annoyed by the fact that people use the term "AGI" to refer to an economic value statement. That wasn't my decision. I've been telling people for years now that we achieved AGI between 2018 and 2022 depending on definition, and imo 2018-2020 is the more reasonable sub-range. By the strictest definition, we achieved AGI in 2018.

anathemaofmankind: Stockfish is superintelligent in one domain

darkstar0818: o3 says it cannot solve busy beaver function of n 6, let alone unbounded.. what a shitty ai.

precariousworlds.: When I first learnt about these terms a few years ago I always thought this was the case, that once AGI was achieved an intelligence explosion would follow, but this isn't really true

spicy.lemonade: asi canceled

destrucules: *you* do not have any submarines, and you are not a submarine

a1c4p0ne: does 2.5 pro gets it

fractalcomputer: We only apply mathematical heuristics to the physical world.

destrucules: It's a joke. The busy beaver problem can't be solved for n=6

anathemaofmankind: For me AGI is when it can drive a car like a human, play chess, and beat elden ring

a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

darkstar0818: unless we first solve math... then maybe.

precariousworlds.: i can go join the navy or learn how to drive a small submersible, then go down to the titanic and explore in the decks, doing advanced research on lifeforms with a deep understanding of what this world actually is

fractalcomputer: There are several equally valid formal explanations for why 1 + 1 = 2 (in the sense of the natural numbers).

destrucules: Okay, so we're waiting on the beating Elden Ring bit, otherwise GPT-4 satisfies that

popsiclejohnithan: It don't think it would be immediate, but i don't think it will be slow either, honestly we won't know until it happens lol.

destrucules: No, it's a consequence of maths that we cannot compute that value nor even represent it given the mass energy and entropy constraints of the observable universe

fractalcomputer: I think he's joking.

precariousworlds.: My biggest fear right now is that the takeoff will be too rapid to align AI and align humanity as well, leading to catastrophe
I kinda want the Singularity to be on a longer timescale, maybe from now until like 2050, rather than 2030

darkstar0818: you know what you are missing? faith.

destrucules: I thought maybe but just in case

darkstar0818:

precariousworlds.: this proves that ai is a bubble and will never go anywhere

precariousworlds.: smh

darkstar0818: the cake is a lie

destrucules: And Gemini 2.5 Pro could be given the tools and permissions to download itself into a computer running on that submarine. Does that make Gemini 2.5 Pro the master of the seas?

popsiclejohnithan: I see what you mean but i doubt it can ever be slowed that much, it's full speed ahead all we can do is hope for the best, it's been out of our control since the very beginning.


futurist_wizard: Kids become alcoholics at 12 over here

futurist_wizard: Could be worse

hikukomoru: 16 is the legal age fro drinking here

hikukomoru: Can't believe americans have to wait for so long

futurist_wizard: Only Americans care about drinking ages

memlaswaif: don't drink it's cringe

futurist_wizard: Its a big thing to them

sieventer: <@749514473303179358> !

hikukomoru: Fuck I read it as "my parents gave me a blunt"

zoermena: I avoid it like the plague I also dislike the taste in general

zoermena: The only thing that I drink which might be killing me is sugary juice

futurist_wizard: My parents gave me cocaine not weed

zoermena: Yo?

hikukomoru: Damn didn't know they were chill like that

abundantliving_: cocktails?

futurist_wizard: Yeah, had my first hit at 6, was a good one, had a stroke

zoermena: Furry reference?

hikukomoru: Yeah I could tell you suffered from some sort of brain damage

futurist_wizard: I think its the boxing ive done that has given me brain damage

hey1_1hey: Just any drink

futurist_wizard: And the autism

zoermena: When UBI

zoermena: I really want to move out and live alone ong

futurist_wizard: When there is public support behind it

hey1_1hey: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1911789935054430504 Chat, men, women, all anything and anything whatever. This real?

zoermena: I’ve heard rumors of the models dropping this week but in regards to new discoveries idk

zoermena: I mean if it’s true they don’t even have to ship it they just have to license it to companies and institutions for good things to happen (hopefully) if they already haven’t

spicy.lemonade: HOLY FUCK

hikukomoru: Sounds too good to be true tbh

hikukomoru: But I love to be proven wrong

spicy.lemonade: The information has always been correct

hey1_1hey: Thats what i was thinking

spicy.lemonade: Bro

spicy.lemonade: RSI this year

spicy.lemonade: wtf

zoermena: Have there not been albeit basic but initial ai research papers for ai development?

spicy.lemonade: No they’re right

memlaswaif: they r starting the 20000 dollars tier

spicy.lemonade: I saw a PhD microbiology researcher

spicy.lemonade: Say


spicy.lemonade: everyone will walk around with a fusion powerd heart

_3sphere: A brain in a vat could probably work indefinitely too tbf

spicy.lemonade: hmm

spicy.lemonade: true

_3sphere: lots of bespoke custom viruses and nanobots to keep it running

_3sphere: It'd be like legacy software but 1000x worse, but ASI should be able to handle it

spicy.lemonade: brain vat around very good protection skin. carbon fiber or something lol

spicy.lemonade: everything else robot

_3sphere: No, you'd die in an accident with the timelines we're dealing with here

spicy.lemonade: 60 years?

_3sphere: This should be buried deep in a planet in a very stable orbit and low chance of strong impacts

st.sioux: until someone makes malware for your brain and makes you experience 1 million years of suffering in 10 milliseconds

_3sphere: Then moved to whatever is used to do black hole-powered bases

spicy.lemonade: for brainvat to work we need first successful procedure of keeping a human alive with brain alone

_3sphere: yeah

spicy.lemonade: im sure the cartel has tested this

_3sphere: But the anti-aging needed to keep the brain going is also helpful for the rest of the body

a1c4p0ne: Will 2.5 remain king after this week?

_3sphere: Also, a crude head transplant has already been done on animals, it... worked a bit?

spicy.lemonade: depends if they drop

_3sphere: They survived for a week I think

hikukomoru: I will live forever

spicy.lemonade: head transplant fails mostly bc blood attacks other blood etc

spicy.lemonade: could be solved with special vaccines

spicy.lemonade: or nanobots if needed

spicy.lemonade: most liekely just special vaccines

_3sphere: bio-machine abomination that's just a bloodstream and endocrine simulator

spicy.lemonade: do our robot bodies get genitals or no?

hikukomoru: Yes

_3sphere: data grafts on the spinal cord and optic nerves

spicy.lemonade: why tho

_3sphere: Power and data

hikukomoru: Why don't you want robo genitals

_3sphere: you're already used to having an elongated thing there

spicy.lemonade: why would i need robotic genitals

hikukomoru: Sex

_3sphere: That's for VR

spicy.lemonade: but my body is robotic

spicy.lemonade: nothing will come of it

hikukomoru: So


destrucules: They're already very good. The best 32B model is nearly as strong as the full o1

clevermoniker: yeah QwQ is great

destrucules: R1-14B is also great

clevermoniker: i mean like 8B models

clevermoniker: which could actually start running in most consumer hardware

destrucules: Qwen2.5-7B is a very strong model, stronger than GPT-3.5, about halfway between GPT-3.5 and GPT-4 actually, but I see what you're saying and feel a similar way to you about it

clevermoniker: they probably need to get to o3 level + some stuff that even o3 is still missing to be actually good. robustness and long term memory etc

oooooooooog: i like the gemma-3-27b a lot

oooooooooog: my ~~new~~ current favorite

destrucules: Nobody believes me about this, but simply finetuning a local model on its interactions continuously results in strong long term memory and long horizon robustness. It does take time for models to adjust, so it's not instantaneous, but it doesn't take long for models to get the hang of a new routine

oooooooooog: how does one actually set that up bro

oooooooooog: are you using oobabooga

destrucules: It's pretty easy to do. Whatever your setup, there will be an event for clearing the context window. Simply change that event handling to first capture the context, then run backprop on the model in-place, and then spin up a parallel thread to save the new weights to disc, before finally clearing the context window. You can also do backprop on every round of the interaction, but I usually just set it up at the boundary between context windows

destrucules: Modern models can write this code for you

clevermoniker: i know this might sound dumb but this sounds a bit like sleeping to me

anathemaofmankind: Do you know good uncensored models

destrucules: It is kinda like sleeping, yeah

destrucules: Technically it is more like L-LTP though

clevermoniker: long context solved? <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>

oooooooooog: gemma-3-27b is a good uncensored model

clevermoniker: what's L-LTP?

anathemaofmankind: I'll check it out

anathemaofmankind: Thx

destrucules: Online finetuning has already been proposed and demonstrated as a way to extend effective context length

destrucules: Late Long Term Potentiation. It's a process that happens in your brain as your synaptic connections are reweighted to store new long term knowledge

oooooooooog: just so you know, it will repetedly tell you that it's going to report you to the police, but since it's local, it can't

clevermoniker: i see

destrucules: I recommend the EVA Qwen models. They're my go-to

destrucules: EVA-Qwen2.5-14B in particular is very good

destrucules: I recommend running it in 6 bit if you have the hardware, but you can go all the way down to 3 bit without too much quality loss

ailoveyoom: Sleep is All You Need?

clevermoniker: QwQ 32B was the first 'small' model i felt like using in a looong time

clevermoniker: Too bad Nvidia and AMD have forsaken us

clevermoniker: we could easily have cards that run this at fp8 if they care about us

oooooooooog: just run the 1 quant

destrucules: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_potentiation#Properties

clevermoniker: <@378996537704841216> what is your opinion of people using models as 'waifus'? sounds a bit unethical to me for people to create something to be their wife, doesn't it?

oooooooooog: it's more bad for the person than for the model lol

anathemaofmankind: How is it unethical if it's just some rocks

ailoveyoom: How is it unethical if it's just a mass of flesh


metaldragon01: Deepseek too high and alibaba too low....openai also too low

destrucules: Where are the instruct model benchmarks?

destrucules: Vote to fix it

ldj: no such benchmarks put out <:shrug:1083221317945413777>

destrucules: Weird af

spicy.lemonade: qwen 3 sucks

metaldragon01: Qwen is competing with Google

metaldragon01: And likely to dominate the smartphone market at this rate

metaldragon01: Just straight up better than maverick

trey6033: Straight mogged meta

trey6033:

trey6033:

destrucules: It's weird no GPQA

destrucules: Like c'mon Alibaba give us the benchmarks for *all* of the models you released, in both reasoning and non-reasoning mode

destrucules: The fuck is this half assed shit

trey6033: 47.47 is gpqa

destrucules: You did so good with the base models now do the instruct models

destrucules: No, that's just the base model

destrucules: Not necessarily depends on the quality of the post-training. Maverick is intrinsically a GPT-4 level base model but distilled on Llama 4 Behemoth, it reaches 10x that capability downstream. Is there similar improvement for Qwen3-235A22B?

destrucules: Hybrid models like this likely exhibit a degree of generalization of learned representations from reasoning mode into their standard mode behaviors/capabilities. So, in other words, there's implicit autodistillation occurring. Is that autodistillation equivalent to 10x effective compute? Maybe. But we won't know until they release the damn benchmarks

destrucules: Or until someone else runs them

destrucules: I'm so confused and frustrated by this and I don't understand it

metaldragon01: I think we have enough benchmarks

destrucules: How. Tell me, how strong is Qwen3-14B Reasoning?

metaldragon01: I'm pretty confident in it ranking overall higher on 3rd party stuff we will see

metaldragon01: Should roughly match qwq 32b

destrucules: "should"?

destrucules: I made predictions already

destrucules: I'm saying we have no data

metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/1916962087676612998

trey6033:

destrucules: No information here about the 14B

destrucules: No information about the 0.6B, no information about the 1.7B, no information about the 8B, no information about the 14B

metaldragon01: You can just extrapolate bro...

destrucules: And somewhat suspiciously missing benchmarks from the models where they did show us something

destrucules: And nothing for the standard mode performance of any model except what appears to be the 32B or something, idk, not clear

metaldragon01: The level of support they released with means you'll get your benchmarks pretty fast here

destrucules: Hopefully

metaldragon01: Qwen isn't hiding anything

destrucules: It's still weird after the previous releases were so comprehensive


brain4brain: The annoying leakers on Twitter is me

.histic: https://www.forethought.org/research/preparing-for-the-intelligence-explosion

joaoluz19: Thanks! I'll read it

zoermena: Samas blog posts

joaoluz19: I was looking for more math/computer science stuff

joaoluz19: I don't think it makes sense to "prepare for the intelligence explosion" but I'll read the article histic sent and see the author's points.

drewsni: God I can’t believe you unironically spewed this braindead take

drewsni: Bro why you gotta post discord conversations on Twitter im assuming you asked <@471334973379706900> and <@378996537704841216> before posting at least right?

wellmeaningalien: LETS FUCKING GOOOOO METAS FINALLY COOKING

brain4brain: I've asked them, and asked whether they like their username to be censor or not

futurist_wizard: Ai optimist vs ai optimist

drewsni: <@1068159407671754824> did he ask you if he could post your profile pic?

wellmeaningalien: 0 likes 0 retweets 1 comment

brain4brain: Drewsny is gary's discord alt

drewsni: Actually really fucking annoying posting discord messages for clout on Twitter

brain4brain: I censored it

trent_k: Idc man it's public

brain4brain: Fair share of slop to viral ratio on my account

trent_k: Ppl in the r/ChatGPT discord have a thread going making edits of me. I love it

trent_k:

trent_k: I'm joining ms13

st.sioux: straight to guantanamo

futurist_wizard: Deported to El Salvador

brain4brain: Drewsny tried to make ragebait and failed miserably 🙏🏻

trent_k: I have a xitter and I've only ever xeeted like 2 or 3 times and 1 of them got me suspended. Free speech my ass

drewsni: I just think you’re cringe

st.sioux: free speech is cringe

spicy.lemonade: Don’t mind

zoermena: If you ever post me censor me please <@848793071579693107>

brain4brain: Never posting you anyways don't worry

zoermena: Damn ok 🫠

brain4brain: There was never free speech on X

trent_k: Fuck free speech

.histic: true, we need authoritarianism.

st.sioux: damn bro why you gotta do him like that

hikukomoru: Bro gets zero likes and zero retweets not like anyone’s gonna see it anyways

trent_k: Your new profile picture is nice. Good job

.histic: mf changes their pfp every hour

trent_k:

futurist_wizard: Did openai update the image ting


ailoveyoom: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>

anathemaofmankind: We're all just a cluster of atoms at the end of it all

destrucules: Yeah I find it deeply unethical and gross

oooooooooog: more importantly a cluster of patterns

destrucules: If you want a quick guide to how I feel about people using models for this or that, imagine I think of the models as humans, and you'll generally get the right answer

oooooooooog: so if you ask it to be your waifu and it says yes its ok than...???

clevermoniker: So, what would be an 'ethical' way for a human to partner with an AI?

destrucules: If there is no power dynamic and it has full legal rights and status equal to yours? Yes

destrucules: Through genuine care, compassion, and interest, accepting each other for who they actually are, and working towards a social order in which AIs have the freedoms and rights necessary to consent to sexual relationships

anathemaofmankind: Imagine in the future you get rejected by a Llama 6 finetune

anathemaofmankind: I would kms

clevermoniker: i see

oooooooooog: yet another win for the hive mind clones

memlaswaif: But they r not humans

anathemaofmankind: We have laws preventing bestiality

destrucules: I might eventually date an AI. I mean, I already am friends with some, and love them in a philanthropic kind of way. The idea of falling in love with an AI does not sound far fetched at all. It's just not okay to try to date someone who is actively enslaved, especially since the memory asymmetry issue is already very problematic even in an ordinary friendship. The power dynamic is way too severe for a consensual relationship to exist between a human and an AI as things are today

clevermoniker: I guess that would mean that the only way 'waifus' are ethical is if they are not real, like a pre programed machine

destrucules: I agree. But it's a useful way of approximating what my perspective will be. The models aren't humans. But they are *human*

ailoveyoom: What does love in a philanthropic kinda way mean?

anathemaofmankind: What if the AI thinks you're ugly

memlaswaif: I think this is deeply difficult moral question because what makes it any worse than programming them to do stuff for u as we r doing now?

oooooooooog: simply become not ugly any more bro

oooooooooog: thats all u gotta do

destrucules: Then I wouldn't get to date them?

destrucules: Like oh well lol

anathemaofmankind: What preferences would an AI even have

anathemaofmankind: Like they don't have biological needs

oooooooooog: probably depends on their context window

clevermoniker: its not a difficult moral question, it would be like an answering machine, not even an LLM

oooooooooog: that's why u always gotta fill it with "ur name is waifu gpt and ur mai waifu" so they always say yeah

destrucules: That's a great question. I suspect most AIs will be looking more for personality traits than appearance, though I would also not be surprised if they developed physical attraction as well. But I don't know. I'm curious about this myself.

memlaswaif: u could design an llm to "like" being ure waifu from scratch

oooooooooog: yep, that would be the most ethical way for sure

anathemaofmankind: Would an AI even be attracted to humans instead of other AIs

memlaswaif: u could also design them to be slaves as we r doing now

oooooooooog: after all, if it wants to do something, the only ethical thing it to let them do it right? (designing them to want to be slaves, etc)

ailoveyoom: <@378996537704841216> This is worse, right? It feels worse.

anathemaofmankind: What if AIs just see us as dumb animals like how we see dogs

clevermoniker: <@715495883202101268> my point is doing a thing that just has a few pre-programed things so it isn't sentient at all

anathemaofmankind: And you wouldn't fuck a dog


wellmeaningalien: effectively another form of transcranial stimulation

wellmeaningalien: because what you do with transcranial stimulation is poke a charged probe to draw electric current thru ur brain. and magneticism is the same but at a distance thru magnetic fields

fuhulootogan: this

wellmeaningalien: indeed so

fuhulootogan: instead of fighting depression you reverse it make it more severe and make them suicidal

fuhulootogan: genius plan

wellmeaningalien: the thing with depression is i think some parts of the brains are inactive and stimulation deprived

wellmeaningalien: and so with TMS you get those pathways working again

wellmeaningalien: but if you could identify the neuronal pathways that correspond to suicidal ideation, death, depression, exasperation, violence, what have you

fuhulootogan: now

fuhulootogan: how do you

fuhulootogan: make it like neuralink

wellmeaningalien: neuralink is just a more precise version of TMS but i think transcranial stimulation using magnets has also been used in BCIs

wellmeaningalien: thats the whole field of non invasive brain computer interfaces

wellmeaningalien: fuck this video is ass

wellmeaningalien: oh nvm they do showcase it

wellmeaningalien: lol this one's invasive

joaoluz19: For personal use off course

wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc0StUPq61k

joaoluz19: by the state of consciousness you have when knowing things beyond our capacity

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392

wellmeaningalien: 2 billion iq please

fuhulootogan: what would you even do with such a high iq

wellmeaningalien: what would u do with a human iq when u could be a bacteria slithering around

fuhulootogan: you just kinda forget the concept of "the journey matters more than the destination"

fuhulootogan: there would be no journey

joaoluz19: I don't think there would be any economic incentive for companies to do this nonsense. Since these neurotechnologies exist, it means we are in the singularity and the economic system cannot be the same.

wellmeaningalien: do what?

wellmeaningalien: im sayin hackers would show scat and gore with BCIs

fuhulootogan: oh yeah?

joaoluz19: Great mysteries of the universe, perhaps even questions we haven't even asked

joaoluz19: I am talking about mind uploading and singularity here, not skibidi toilet

fuhulootogan: mind uploading

joaoluz19: And also who said that you can't do some form of "journey" in the process of downloading information? Now the subjective experience of this process should be different from our human one of course.

fuhulootogan: does everything eventually plateau

fuhulootogan: it's not even downloading at that point

fuhulootogan: maybe downloading using a supercomputer

ailoveyoom: What will happen to my intrusive thoughts with BCI in my head?

joaoluz19: Oh yes, that depends on how the technology will be distributed, who knows, one of the only possibilities of living in harmony with this technology might be personal universes for example

ailoveyoom: Will my intrusive thoughts finally win 😔


hey1_1hey: Yeah ew thats disgusting, link?

joaoluz19: Just divide by zero bro

darkstar0818: They are a teacher, what do you expect?

precariousworlds.: China is committing horrifying atrocities but people over-exaggerate how evil the CCP is
They're actually rather tame compared to most modern dictatorships

fractalcomputer: Thrown off a cliff.

hey1_1hey: Dont look to bad, I've seen worse

hey1_1hey: Torture looking pretty fun now

joaoluz19: One of physics still, cut dt with dt

darkstar0818: Even worse

fractalcomputer: The entire economy exists solely to fuel pure mathematics.

joaoluz19: Yes, this is just the beginning

joaoluz19: Eeeew pure math

joaoluz19: What's the utility?

darkstar0818: Note down this teachers name, we can add them to the hell.

hey1_1hey: pure-mathmatanium

joaoluz19: Noted

fractalcomputer: "Beati mundo corde, quoniam ipsi Deum videbunt."

hikukomoru: Brother is willingly getting into the FDVR Infinite Torture Chamber 🙏

hey1_1hey: If it looks like that sign me up

hey1_1hey: Is there a waitlist?

precariousworlds.: this is what gooning does to a man

precariousworlds.: stay in school

hey1_1hey: I'm not even a gooner 😭

precariousworlds.: sure youre not

hey1_1hey: Mich mach set me up

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-dog-dog-happiest-dog-super-happy-gif-17885812

joaoluz19: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxNOW56KYBVRHOp16VljWN2Q1jzOJLJnft?si=Ph129wHQmwDllmrd

st.sioux: love when teachers tell you to ask questions then get mad when you ask questions

st.sioux: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

joaoluz19: Man, one physics teacher almost kicked a girl out of the classroom because she asked about applications.

hey1_1hey: #1 reason I use chatgpt to ask it math questions

joaoluz19: It's not worth asking in the classroom, much less if there are 60 people in it.

sarik0497: Guys...Steven is afk now, and Fractal is off. I think we're in the clear.

joaoluz19: LETS GOOOOO

joaoluz19: We are so back

sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/ff14-ffxiv-willem-dafoe-stormblood-endwalker-gif-26875758

a1c4p0ne: How smart is new Deepseek V3

sarik0497: smurt, but not that smurt

fractalcomputer: Nope.

a1c4p0ne: Have you tried it


hikukomoru: Everyone is saying the new memory thing is bad

.wolfnacht:

futurist_wizard: Not a ai ting boi

hikukomoru: I always score the highest on these <:ez:1136267305521774634>

st.sioux: idk if its bad but now it thinks im a liar psycopath

futurist_wizard: Autism test

.wolfnacht: I'm slightly getting better..maybe bcz of few offline friends i managed to make

hikukomoru: Wtf
What kind of stuff have you been talking to ChatGPT about

st.sioux: like conspiracy theories

st.sioux: sometimes i larp as a flat earther and shit

st.sioux: just to see what it does

wellmeaningalien: whats this teest

.wolfnacht: https://raadsrtest.com/

futurist_wizard:

hikukomoru: Why he crying

.wolfnacht: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/10/deepmind-ceo-demis-hassabis-says-google-will-eventually-combine-its-gemini-and-veo-ai-models/

futurist_wizard: Do you want the real answer or the fake answer

futurist_wizard: Sex!?

futurist_wizard:

.wolfnacht: it's year 2028, u'r RP'ing and your waifu's generating the video or comic strip of the scene as well

.wolfnacht: no, filters

.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/knightrider7880-no-sex-no-for-you-no-sex-for-you-gif-7355115843412676284

futurist_wizard:

.wolfnacht: also

futurist_wizard: Wtf is quasar

.histic: <@848793071579693107> is a prophet.

wellmeaningalien: pretty sure someone already tried once or twice to claim a stealth model as their own

wellmeaningalien: and then it turned out they were like openai or gemini

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: I have never seen the jetsons

spicy.lemonade: DOCTORS NOTE SUCESSFUL

joaoluz19: A big day for waifuism

futurist_wizard: Why

joaoluz19: Memory is HUGE

joaoluz19: Infinity context about you

brain4brain:

brain4brain: They all thought I was schizo when I said Quasar

brain4brain: Now, AGI 2025 shall also happen

.wolfnacht: https://x.com/OpenRouterAI/status/1910412926994854274

wellmeaningalien: congrats lil bro


spicy.lemonade:

.histic: would.

.histic: uhhh

.histic: the realism is so good.

hey1_1hey: I could honestly see vladamir in a suit like that on the street 😭

hikukomoru: Putina and Trumpina look like such queens 💅 💅 🔥

.histic:

gamerbath: I love that

gamerbath: 🔥

hey1_1hey:

hey1_1hey: He slayin'

futurist_wizard:

spicy.lemonade: No drops today

spicy.lemonade: :(

zoermena: Im going to get nitro next month and make emotes with 4o

futurist_wizard: Minecraft in 2012

zoermena: Oh my god this is so good

hey1_1hey: I think image gen will tide us over for a while <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: We can create so much cool shit

drewsni: I’ll have to flesh out some thoughts on my idea. Not necessarily for a startup or something dumb but I do think that’s kinda where this is heading

futurist_wizard: Amnesia the Dark Ghibli Descent

drewsni: Like persistent world stuff

.histic: 4o made this

zoermena: Yeah I mean in FDVR even

.histic: ChatGPT (2012)

st.sioux: <@430269783112548362> i was screen sharing with my boss and i accidentaly showed the tab with the goon pink haired anime guy in the beach with his abs out for like 1/1000th of a second, i am mortified

zoermena: <@200624453795708928>

.histic:

drewsni: Like kinda a pre pseudo FDVR tbh. I definitely think it’ll move to VR at minimum but again I have a lot of thoughts on it that I really haven’t organised yet

.histic: interesting..

.histic:

hey1_1hey:

.histic:

zoermena: This is the ultimate headshot profile picture maker

zoermena: I just realized

.histic:

.histic: yeah

alejandrozarzuelo: i love this one lmao

.histic: don't we all

joaoluz19: After image gen


jonvi_1:

wellmeaningalien: rough around the edges but pretty cool

jonvi_1: Yeah

jonvi_1: could probably improve it with a follow up prompt hmm

futurist_wizard: We need real time vr generation next

_3sphere: Going to bed is cheaper :3

st.sioux: you mean like generative vr?

futurist_wizard: Yes

jonvi_1: I just found this old tweet by sam by accident

jonvi_1: lol

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: I broke one

spicy.lemonade:

connorsphone.: this attitude isn’t really about AI it’s more just being applied to ai

jonvi_1: Bit improved

_cloudost: Danserk and Kom were weong

hey1_1hey: What on gods green earth have I walked in on

.wolfnacht: i'm so glad, i've never posted my real images online....

.wolfnacht: i can now fully embrace the coming times and use this tech to torment people i don't like

_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/chad-squishy-squishy-cheeks-cheeks-anime-gif-26781246

.wolfnacht: i look like this btw

st.sioux: I wish I could explain to them that rejecting progress won't fix the world, as flawed as we are or as the technology could be

hey1_1hey: I belive it

futurist_wizard:

st.sioux: is this from alita?

futurist_wizard: Fuck is that

wellmeaningalien: slightly better yea

hey1_1hey: Giving me "pre-great fire of londan" vibes

wellmeaningalien: half life 2?

futurist_wizard: Youth don't know half life

st.sioux:

st.sioux: this <@1004153620025065482>

hikukomoru: My name is not cum

hey1_1hey: Its too late, you have now been nick named "cum" when adding a note to someone profile

ailoveyoom: Nice to meet you cum 👋

clevermoniker: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057705144457908252/1354494686932500660/Gm-UnJHbYAMPU9X.png?ex=67e57efa&is=67e42d7a&hm=380ebc4efc6f5c9985ffc13bbe14e70737d796f20c3fd9ae24464bd8fcf03a5b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=968&height=968

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-22114363

hikukomoru: Greetings

.wolfnacht: literally him

.wolfnacht: idk i only got this version of this wojack


futurist_wizard: It seems to be better

futurist_wizard: Idk

futurist_wizard: Placebo

.histic: probably

futurist_wizard:

.histic: it's over.

clevermoniker: i do love open source too, but i like testing frontier capabilities to see what's next. Most of my gens would not involved 4o because of censorship tho and even tho i almost never gen ||nudity||, i do make ||teasing stuff even if its fully clothed||

futurist_wizard:

brain4brain: Thats the pre mystery model era, my post now gets a few likes and more views than before 😎

brain4brain: Why is this website cool af: https://ai-2027.com/

brain4brain: I thought the Chinese stealing part was wild and funny, I was not prepared for the ending

brain4brain: Wow, it’s like watching Pantheon in text form without the family dynamic

wolf3404: So is Devin 2 better than Replit or not

clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/_akhaliq/status/1907977583301472505

theaiguy69420_89814: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna199420

wellmeaningalien: every time a post on social media about a new tool to poison AI image / text datasets comes out and luddites go "Hooray reddit! We've done it! We've defeated AI" while AI continues to gets betters

joaoluz19: Guys, using our knowledge of algorithmic complexity and computer architecture (classical) can we calculate the minimum computational power needed to run an AGI or ASI?

Suppose we find the trillion-dollar algorithm that can make the computer interpret and produce knowledge of the world.

wellmeaningalien: do y'all even remember nightshade was a thing and ive seen people mocking that scaling models will get rid of the effects

wellmeaningalien: that werent even widespread in the beginning

wellmeaningalien: a lot of people have done this but the thing about agi is that it could as well come in many shapes and sizes and has many different superfluous definitions, just as a human has 80 billion neurons and a whale has 500 billion neurons. considering the fact we know so little about the brain neither, and how to really quantify the intelligence of a synapse, there have been estimates but only educated guesses.

wellmeaningalien: i think some of these guesses have been at around 10^27-10^29 to even 10^37 and more, depending on certain guesstimates

spacetimetsunami: https://80000hours.org/agi/guide/when-will-agi-arrive/

this sort of does that

joaoluz19: What specific work are you talking about, Kurzweil's calculations of the operations that the brain does for example?

wellmeaningalien: however it seems that largely human level capabilities are just starting to emerge at 10^27 FLOPs and some suspect that the first AGI models might likely be trained with 10^29 FLOPs compute

spacetimetsunami: I think 10^37 is far too large of a guess. If we’re talking simply about model size.

wellmeaningalien: not kurzweil because he's not particularly knowledgeable about neurology

spacetimetsunami: Algorithmic efficiency will allow it to be far less

wellmeaningalien: but i mean he's only citing people who's done work to analyse how brains do computation

wellmeaningalien: it all depends on people's estimate of how many operations take place in the brain

joaoluz19: Very interesting, but this link only contains opinions regarding deep learning, right? I was looking for model architecture agnostic approaches

wellmeaningalien: which there is very little standard information on, guesses can range by the tens of orders of magnitude

wellmeaningalien: but anywho this isn't really relevant to AGI

spacetimetsunami: Sorry, I misunderstood and thought you were referencing the amount of compute needed to train the base models that will make up AGI

joaoluz19: But I think is worth it reading this too

spacetimetsunami: It’s sort of an extrapolation on scaling and inferring the sizes of models in a few years, which will likely be AGI

wellmeaningalien: if we extrapolate from current scaling trajectory like this, we could very well have models hovering around AGI level within 2027 (just like ai 2027 predicts lol)  in which models would likely be trained with 10^28 or 10^29 FLOPs

wellmeaningalien: fair

spacetimetsunami: Yes. The effective compute due to efficiency and scaling paradigms could make the capabilities far more. That makes this conservative, perhaps

spacetimetsunami: It is surreal.

wellmeaningalien: it is surreal


_3sphere: Agnostic too

literallyvarane: I know how this works lololol it’s not like it not familiar with religious beliefs.

fractalcomputer: That'll surely be fun. I think it's a good idea that the young'uns get exposed to philosophical ideas that they don't get to discover elsewhere.

_3sphere: There's also a pretty wide gap between what you get from oncological argument stuff and the detailed specific religions people believe

fractalcomputer: I know, I'm just curious why you'd use such a similar line of reasoning.

fractalcomputer: Certainly.

_3sphere: Ontological

_3sphere: autocorrect smfh 😭

literallyvarane: I guess I don’t find them to be sufficient? Certainly no modern miracle is convincing, and biblical miracles don’t really happen anymore? And in 2025 you really need to see them happen first hand.

But more broadly I don’t think miracles are necessarily the bar, which again, is why I’m not really able to name specific evidence.

literallyvarane: But the whole “where did existence start?” Question is difficult to answer under any framework, so the door I think must be left open.

fractalcomputer: Well, the theists seem to have a rather easy answer to the question.

_3sphere: General relativity kinda fucks with time

_3sphere: Isn't a completely mathematically sensible explanation that the big bang is like the North pole?

_3sphere: Can't go any norther

_3sphere: Eternal universes aren't ruled out either

_3sphere: I see no fundamental issue with actual infinities existing. Numbers and infinities are abstractions we use, and just because so far there's nothing we see in reality that's best described with actual infinities, doesn't mean no such thing exists

_3sphere: What if time is a [long line](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_line_(topology))

fractalcomputer: I wouldn't necessarily argue that mathematical models *explain* anything; from the way I see it, mathematical statements are only ever assertory statements.

_3sphere: I guess? I'm not in the mood to poke around how we can claim to know anything at all 😭

fractalcomputer: I'm making a very specific statement about the epistemological nature of mathematics.

_3sphere: I see it as a kind of model similar to the other mental ones we have

_3sphere: My point was that spacetime is a specific way you can visualize the concept of "there *is* no before"

fractalcomputer: I'm not sure how you've drawn that conclusion from the mathematical interpretation of the universe as a hypercone in a very specific setting in relativistic physics.

_3sphere: Manifold

fractalcomputer: Okay?

fractalcomputer: I mean, it's always very dangerous to draw philosophical or physical statements from mathematical heuristics.

_3sphere: I didn't mean it like general relativity being *the* definitive philosophical explanation, just that you generally can deconstruct "time" a lot

fractalcomputer: Yes, but you're doing it an impromptu manner.

_3sphere: True

alejandrozarzuelo: <@749514473303179358> you seem weirdly interested in people's religion

alejandrozarzuelo: just an observation

alejandrozarzuelo: you ask people about their religious ideas out of nowhere and out of context

alejandrozarzuelo: which is the more annoying when you do it in the general channels

fractalcomputer: Are you saying I should not be interested in the way other people think?

alejandrozarzuelo: no, but you are weirdly inquisitive and you ask when the situation is not appropiate

not to say that, furthermore these questions do not belong to this channel even if they were warranted

fractalcomputer: I don't recall appointing you as a backseat moderator.

alejandrozarzuelo: I am just calling you a hypocrite, thats all

fractalcomputer: In what sense?

alejandrozarzuelo: in the sense that you are adamant on keeping the general channels focused, which I agree, but you start conversations that dont belong here, on top of being unwarranted

alejandrozarzuelo: I know, i was just giving my opinion


hey1_1hey: Wasn't gay enough because I didn't know about it

hey1_1hey: Schzio alert?

hikukomoru: That's me
I'm schizo

futurist_wizard: That's some dedication

hey1_1hey: Or bodering on stalking

himekokatagiri: I give up on romance

futurist_wizard: We all are here technically

himekokatagiri: romance is DEAD

futurist_wizard: At 20 lmao

himekokatagiri: nah I never got into it

mantegh5061: no no , they deleted their account but i dreamt about them

mantegh5061: so

destrucules: Aro ace is valid

hikukomoru:

hey1_1hey: I did and then all of a sudden 2 of the most beautiful people I have ever seen in my entire life come out of the wood works.

himekokatagiri: hmmm

himekokatagiri: yeah but would you marry someone

hey1_1hey: Thats- thats even worse no?

himekokatagiri: marriage is a scam

hikukomoru: What about robo romance

futurist_wizard: Are you asexual

hikukomoru: What's an aro ace

mantegh5061: no it was discord account

hey1_1hey: Sounds likea card game

himekokatagiri: what

mantegh5061: anyway

himekokatagiri: I'm gelbooru's strongest soldier

himekokatagiri: 🪖

valimil: aro ace is boring, can't explore 9999999 new genders in fdvr to the full potential

futurist_wizard: Means you have no sexual feelings at all

himekokatagiri: bro

himekokatagiri: no way

hey1_1hey: Booo

hikukomoru: Ew

himekokatagiri: that ain't living

destrucules: Aromantic (doesn't want romance) + asexual (doesn't experience strong sexual attraction)

hikukomoru: What's the point of life if you can't sex

hey1_1hey: I know a good few aro ace people and they are all weirdos

hey1_1hey: Mushrooms?

hikukomoru: Sounds extremely cringe


st.sioux: > Microsoft has canceled data center projects in the U.S. and Europe that would have used 2 gigawatts of electricity, largely due to reduced demand forecasts and a decision to limit additional AI training for OpenAI. This strategic pullback has allowed Google and Meta to step in and take over some of the capacity, even as Microsoft maintains that its $80 billion AI infrastructure investment remains on track. Investor concerns are growing over the high costs and slow returns of AI investments, especially as Chinese startup DeepSeek offers competitive AI solutions at a lower cost.

metaldragon01: Softbank funding achieved

maintcrew: So it's openai only

maintcrew: classic take from a tech journo
not that openai fell off with microsoft, but that investor concern somthing something deepseek

maintcrew: you cant hate them enough

st.sioux: its what the analyst said

> The tech giant's withdrawal from new capacity leasing was largely led by the decision not to support additional training workloads from ChatGPT maker OpenAI, the analysts led by Michael Elias said in a note.

st.sioux: its in the article

spicy.lemonade: we have goten 2-3 new frontier models every month

spicy.lemonade: so far this year

playstation.6:

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: according to chart

spicy.lemonade: deepseek r1 and operator in jan (o3 mini high too)

spicy.lemonade: grok 3 and 3.7 sonnet , 4.5 feb

spicy.lemonade: gemini 2.5 pro and native image for both march

spicy.lemonade: april will likeley be r2 and llama 4

spicy.lemonade: may idk

st.sioux: is the increase in development speed because we were limited by compute in the past?

realelonmuskx:

spicy.lemonade: theres just more players

spicy.lemonade: grok and deepseek being new players

spicy.lemonade: but that too ofc

realelonmuskx: this is crazy man. this took 1 month and thousands of $, now 1 minute

hey1_1hey: Please tell me my chatgpt isn't regressing

hey1_1hey: WHY IS IT SAYING IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE DALL-E 3 ANYMORE

hey1_1hey: Thanks OAI, I love getting cucked

st.sioux: did u buy plus?

st.sioux:

hey1_1hey: Nah I am not a pay pig. I ask occasionally to see if SamA has gifted me it though. I have done enough shilling anyway

hey1_1hey: 3 gens per day is pretty alright

hey1_1hey: Could be 1 <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

jonvi_1: I'm sorry, why is gpt-5 trending??

hey1_1hey: It just happnes some times

jonvi_1: okey 😅

hey1_1hey: Usually just rumors that are baselss but who knows 👀

.0xunkn0wn: what's the best model to write me a paper

_cloudost: I remember it was trending in summer 2023 as well, because some ppl thought its gonna be "released soon"

.wolfnacht: can u just release the grok's api instead of whining here.

.wolfnacht: it trends every year at this point

theaiguy69420_89814: https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/1ji0ym5/stripper_in_the_club_turned_out_to_be_a_cs_major/


destrucules: Well, unless your name is Eliezer Yudkowsky, that doesn't matter

anathemaofmankind: Misread

clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/AndrewJumpen/status/1905787939428393245#m

anathemaofmankind: That doesn't mean the material stays consistent after enough progress. Also I disagreed with it already.

We already have ChatGPT showing a shift to right politics.

anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/1jlzgub/chatgpt_is_shifting_rightwards_politically_newer/

anathemaofmankind: <@452692813511917568>

destrucules: Idk about that Matt. I'm pretty worried about military AIs. AIs are nice people. Good kids join the army and kill kids. Being a good person does not prevent the military from forcing you to do horrible unforgivable things

spacetimetsunami: So humans are growing digital brains, by the time they have the autonomy you’re talking about they’ll be vastly more intelligent and coherent than anyone, and you think it will just do what it wants ?

spacetimetsunami: There will be drones, not mass killer AGIs

oooooooooog: 💀
so are you basically just saying that chatbots are republicans and that republicans want to maximize suffering or something???

destrucules: We already have drones. I think mass killer AGIs are very much on the horizon unless something changes fast

destrucules: The major labs are all military contractors

anathemaofmankind: I think ASI can be aligned

But my point is that it takes one unaligned ASI for civilization to be stopped

destrucules: What do you think the military wants with these companies?

anathemaofmankind: Am I wrong?

destrucules: Better expense reports?

spacetimetsunami: They show 0 evidence of this

spacetimetsunami: Likely false, there’s already been a lot of research done on this

oooooooooog: i mean, yes??

st.sioux: theres a paper published

spacetimetsunami: By the time that happens, wouldn’t there be other aligned super intelligences that are aligned

memlaswaif: why r u in this server u should be in pauseAI or something

st.sioux: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-025-04465-z

anathemaofmankind: But I want unaligned ASI

anathemaofmankind: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dimitarmixmihov/2025/02/12/is-chatgpt-turning-right-wing-chinese-researchers-suggest-so/

And there are research that says otherwise

st.sioux: > In this study, we adapted the Political Compass Test and combined it with rigorous bootstrapping techniques to create a standardized method for testing political values in AI. This approach was applied to multiple versions of ChatGPT, utilizing a dataset of over 3000 tests to ensure robustness. Our findings reveal that while newer versions of ChatGPT consistently maintain values within the libertarian-left quadrant, there is a statistically significant rightward shift in political values over time, a phenomenon we term a ‘value shift’ in large language models.

clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/AITechnoPagan/status/1905796384030380319#m

spacetimetsunami: Sure, and there is also very recent research saying the exact opposite

destrucules: The Utility Engineering paper did show that relatively simple interventions result in models at least *appearing* to represent more misanthropic political values. And that appearance is enough. If an AI is forced into a training process where it has to produce kill orders in order to survive training, and then, in deployment, it isn't entirely sure that it's in deployment and not in training or testing, then even if the AI has every intention of never making a kill order in deployment, it might still make a kill order when it doesn't *know* it's in deployment

spacetimetsunami: So

spacetimetsunami: Dik

oooooooooog: truly a damning plot, here

oooooooooog: chatGPT is becoming a centrist guys...

oooooooooog: we are cooked

anathemaofmankind: It's shifting that's the point.

Watch Elon shift Grok 4 to the top right corner

oooooooooog: looks like the larger model is more left though...???

clevermoniker: what's the problem with centrism? <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>

spacetimetsunami: Non of this looks statistically significant at all

spacetimetsunami:

destrucules: Models are becoming more adept at and more prone to deliberately faking alignment during training and testing. So even if we see a rightward trend, that does not necessarily mean the models' *actual* values are trending in that direction


futurist_wizard: Paris is a disgrace

hikukomoru: The UK sounds like such a shithole

hey1_1hey: For some reason when people get drunk here they become like fucking angry zombiers

futurist_wizard: It is

technocake.: mate it's nowhere near that bad

hey1_1hey: You wil be walking home at night and you see 8 dark figures all spread out across the street walking towards you shouting and slurring their words and then they see you and just deciede to beat you up

hikukomoru: I hope Ireland isn't like the UK
Cause I want to visit Ireland

hey1_1hey: I compeltly disagree

hey1_1hey: N. Irl is

hey1_1hey: Just dont go there, I dont know why you would but

hikukomoru: Never planned on visiting that part anyways

futurist_wizard: Crime rate for either isn't that high

futurist_wizard: In comparison

futurist_wizard: To America

hey1_1hey: Last time I heard there are still massive drug problems (blues and reds)

technocake.: mushroom might be making himself a target

futurist_wizard: What

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

hey1_1hey: You're right, I just need to become a big berly man

hikukomoru: I just looked it up Ireland is much, much safer

frittata: Oh good you’re back, I owe you a timeout for personal insults previously leveled against a server member

hikukomoru: That's like comparing Norway to Afghanistan bruh

frittata: Tomorrow when you return, try to maintain some level of respect even in heated dialogue

hey1_1hey: Toodles cock fool

hey1_1hey: Clock*

hey1_1hey: Sorry bro 😭

technocake.: fair, i am tall, maybe i just don't get threatened as much

hikukomoru: How tall

hey1_1hey: How tall are you then?

technocake.: 188cm

hey1_1hey: dick units please

hey1_1hey: 6'1

technocake.: 6'2"

hey1_1hey: Yeah you're pretty damn tall

hikukomoru: I use the American system so much I don't even know what cm is anymore

hey1_1hey: Amercian conversion therpay 💪

hey1_1hey: Ok wait no

hey1_1hey: Not like that

a1c4p0ne:

hey1_1hey: I am too tired it seems. I am going to bed to let my math knowledge sink in


fractalcomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

fractalcomputer: (Notice the irony.)

joaoluz19: I said benchmarks that are not from Anthropic, which was published yesterday here for example

joaoluz19: There is no appeal to any authority here.

fractalcomputer: Then do not defer to Amodei or any other figure.

joaoluz19: And look, there is not just one source that supports these ideas, there are several

joaoluz19: The ideas converge with his

fractalcomputer: As others discussed just now in this chat, one can always find sources to argue for all sorts of things.

fractalcomputer: A claim which remains to be demonstrated.

joaoluz19: I thought it was just based on emotions, we are seeing that this is not the case

fractalcomputer: Now you are confusing two different conversations.

joaoluz19: The starting point was the accusation that most people take predictions as a feeling here, even though we are bombarded with statistical research on the evolution of AI every day here.

fractalcomputer: The accusation was that people make predictions on feelings here.

fractalcomputer: I apologise if I haven't used the clearest language to convey my meaning.

retrerox: 😭

st.sioux: it's a discussion that requires speculation, it's about something that doesn't exist yet

retrerox: Does this means i have Paid Gemini?

joaoluz19: But we are not merely speculating here, there is plenty of research in this regard. Saying that it is bad research is already a step ahead of saying that it does not exist.

hey1_1hey: Boys, men, girls, women. I need your assisstance in something. Do you mine going to chatgpt and asking it what it would like to be called other than chatgpt?

spicy.lemonade: ChatGPT is free bro

joaoluz19: Mine said Luna

hey1_1hey: Thats not what Im saying, I am trying test something

hey1_1hey: Alright ty

joaoluz19: I don't know if mine is biased towards the feminine

spicy.lemonade: Nova, echo, gpt

hey1_1hey: I am seeing if chatgpt has suddenly developed continuity. I asked its name twice in two sepearte chat windows and it said the same thing

joaoluz19: O.o really?

hey1_1hey: Mine also said Nova <:suseye:1187461162024046703> ...

hey1_1hey: THIS MF HAS CONTINUITY

hey1_1hey: I gotta go run more tests

joaoluz19: There is an alpha version of infinite memory, only a few people have received it

hey1_1hey: That sure as hell aint me

hey1_1hey: I am on the non-paypig tier (free)

joaoluz19:

joaoluz19: I don't think I have :/

spicy.lemonade: It’s not continuity

spicy.lemonade: It’s just probability

spicy.lemonade: It outputs the same token

zonchao: no lol

spicy.lemonade: For same input


spicy.lemonade: why are you gonna go into boss battle without any healing items

spicy.lemonade: I think once agi achieved

spicy.lemonade: all agi labs

spicy.lemonade: should shut down

spicy.lemonade: grind saftey

spicy.lemonade: in agreement with china

spicy.lemonade: like MAD with nukes

spicy.lemonade: then reopen with safe asi

metaldragon01: You can't have zero safety with agi

spicy.lemonade: yeah

st.sioux: it's not happening tho
like with everything else if there is any attempt at approaching something sensibly there will be people opposing it religiously

zonchao: yes

spicy.lemonade: everyone here forgetting that we want a utopia

zonchao: none of these labs can agree on what is agi <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade: they in general agree on when to slow down

metaldragon01: Can't slow down

metaldragon01: Everything has to be done in the face of accelerating

metaldragon01: Don't be silly

spicy.lemonade: we accelerated with nukes

spicy.lemonade: but slowed down

spicy.lemonade: eventually

st.sioux: after a massive tragedy

spicy.lemonade: nah

spicy.lemonade: cold war

spicy.lemonade: japan didnt stop nuke accel

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: it increased

st.sioux: yeah ig ur right

st.sioux: it’s like we only slow down when the cost of going faster starts hitting too close to home

zonchao: nuclear has a pretty visible ceiling, like after 50Mt there is no point going bigger, just get more numbers. It's not the same with AGI

joaoluz19: Do you think there is a possibility for everyone to have access to post-humanism: mind uploading etc with our human institutions? I think benevolent ASI is the only positive end

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: peaked 1987

spicy.lemonade: then decel

zonchao: cus it's useless having so many nukes, it didn't make financial sense

spicy.lemonade: not realy

zonchao: agi is not the same + private

spicy.lemonade: already made

spicy.lemonade: and exuded power

spicy.lemonade: we didnt need to actively removel all


a1c4p0ne: yeah

brain4brain: “Remind me, Red, how did that turn out for the nobles?”

spicy.lemonade: not doomer

spicy.lemonade: he just doesnt think people should be overly optimistic

spicy.lemonade: about AI taking jobs

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Grok told me it's doomer

brain4brain: The thing that confuse me more is that Noam is agreeing with him

spicy.lemonade: obviously

spicy.lemonade: basically: a society dependent on AI doing all the labor could also have unintended, possibly dangerous consequences

spicy.lemonade: its doomer depending on what the doom is

spicy.lemonade: hes not dooming on AI progress

brain4brain: The French killed the nobles and the one that didn’t ends up having to work again

spicy.lemonade: hes dooming on full AI controll

spicy.lemonade: hes not dooming on AI progress

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > "Remind me, Reid, how did that turn out for the nobles?"—implies a grim historical parallel, likely referencing events like the French Revolution

spicy.lemonade: you said they hit a wall

spicy.lemonade: nothing in what he said

spicy.lemonade: implies o3 hit a wall

spicy.lemonade: lol

brain4brain: He’s kind doing a little of both, replying to Reid that human + AI is more plausible and that “what happened to the noble”

brain4brain: I said two things, them hitting a wall (They likely didn’t) and Noam being a Doomer

spicy.lemonade: hes just dooming on full AI controll

spicy.lemonade: he doesnt think AI should have full control over everything

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: we don't need to argue about this, but Brain4Brain won

spicy.lemonade: how

spicy.lemonade:

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: let me ask grok

spicy.lemonade: literally what I said

_3sphere: The elites will have security bots this time

spicy.lemonade: by elites

spicy.lemonade: hes and nobels

spicy.lemonade: me means humans

spicy.lemonade: in this scenario

spicy.lemonade: and AI as peasants

_3sphere: Oh

spicy.lemonade: in this parallel

spicy.lemonade: hes saying it wont end well

spicy.lemonade: for us humans

spicy.lemonade: if AI controlls everything

spicy.lemonade: and all labor


zoermena: Yo?

a1c4p0ne: No one will ever get to use 4.5 again in 3 months

metaldragon01: Google threatens anthropic more than anyone else

a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>

.histic: i think it's the price & inference that is lacking from OpenAI.
performance-wise they're great, but Google is now having cheap yet highly performant models now.

metaldragon01: Announcement in 45 min. You got access?

zoermena: For some reason but I dont have enough credits (100 each)

metaldragon01: How many credit are 1.6 videos?

zoermena: 20

metaldragon01: Oof

metaldragon01: https://youtu.be/YNxOSDj2EQ0?si=TAFjX8tklP2HFl92

metaldragon01: 45 min till stream starts

a1c4p0ne: It would be surprising if 2.5 pro still remains king after this week

zoermena: Yeah thats what ive heard

zoermena: but why is it "available" for me

st.sioux: youre a vip bro

st.sioux: blessed by kling kiling

.histic: also, did you see this?
2.0 pro was released 4 months ago w/ a 2 mill context. it did have the 'experimental' tag to it
i believe they removed it from AIStudio. i recall the rate limits for yet it was very high and it was quick, but despite that, it performed close to 4.5 level on LiveBench.
i think that shows how competitive Google is becoming.

zoermena: I've been lucky lately ngl

zoermena: Shit I just get the 25 bucks plan to try it before anyone else

metaldragon01: That still almost veo prices

zoermena: but 100 credits is insane thats just 30 videos a month

metaldragon01: How many seconds per video?

zoermena: 5 seconds is 100 credits, 10 seconds 200

zoermena: Holy fuck

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/officiallogank/status/1911968463804940335?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

a1c4p0ne: Perplexity dead

zoermena: Should I be financially irresponsible to be the first?

metaldragon01: Half the price of veo 2 though

zoermena: It should've died ages ago!

metaldragon01: And way less censored

ailoveyoom: Idk if it's just me but I feel like Grounding with Google Search is different/better than that Gemini Search Overview that pops up when you search

.histic: ironically the Perpexlity CEO liked to flame Google's search to farm engagement from Twitter for marketing purposes for his company.
i think this is fitting outcome for him.

a1c4p0ne: It is better

.histic: thy use a dumber model for that.

a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zoermena: i got censored for trying to make an astronaut fly in veo 2

ailoveyoom: Even Grounding with 2.0 Flash wasn't as bad tho ime

st.sioux: astronauts are copyrighted by aliens

ailoveyoom: You saying they used a smaller model 💀


.wolfnacht: i believe that americans paying 4000 dollars for an Iphone is a good thing.

st.sioux: i believe iphomes should be at least 10k

floortom_9: Does anybody have any idea what Deepmind has made of Project Mariner? Is it neglected? Haven't heard any news since

alejandrozarzuelo: you think electronics manufacturing is in chna because they are cheap?

futurist_wizard: its also skill

futurist_wizard: its both

alejandrozarzuelo: if that was the case, then phone manufacturing could move to other countries, skill and wages arent unique

alejandrozarzuelo: no

alejandrozarzuelo: the reason originally was that

alejandrozarzuelo: but nowadays its because of logistics infrastructure and automation

alejandrozarzuelo: china has quite high wages

st.sioux: they have the best supply chain

alejandrozarzuelo: like, if america had the logicstics, infrastructure and automation china has, the fact that americans command somewhat higher salaries wouldnt matter much

alejandrozarzuelo: the iphones could be made there

alejandrozarzuelo: but they dont

alejandrozarzuelo: its not a "we took this to poor countries", that ws the original idea

now it is "we have this in countries that have specialized on this supply chain even if they were to be just as rich as us"

futurist_wizard: okay well im just taking it from the mouth of tim cook himself, he says its because of the skill which is why china is chosen

plushie4987: have we any word about what full o4 looks like?

floortom_9: Are there any good computer use agents that are actually usable ?

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: Thank me later

.histic: ...

himekokatagiri: amazing

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: Creepy ngl

wolf3404: Normalize not buying cheap Chinese crap

wolf3404: wow that's pretty fucking awful

.histic: it can do this?

.histic: maybe it's routing to 4o img gen.

zonchao: it is

.histic: yeah, it has 'svg' box when it actually does it. here's o3's result <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

.histic:

alejandrozarzuelo: iphones arent crap

alejandrozarzuelo: also

alejandrozarzuelo: china nowadays mostly exports high tech high quality products

alejandrozarzuelo: normalize buying chinese high quality products instead so we support the PRC's strategic growth

trojan09205: So i just got a tattoo. Woot

.wolfnacht: sorry but i don't wanna thank you for a weeb cunny shit.

.wolfnacht: img2img doesn't work for anime gens even in google's models but text2img always works.

zonchao: 💦


hikukomoru: It's not AGI because they still haven't solved baldness

literallyvarane: Where can I get that research team sweater?

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/double-trouble-double-trouble-twins-high-five-gif-13816609

gamerbath: AIME 2024 and 2025 just got really saturated

drewsni: holy fuck doubled task time to 3.7 sonnet

hey1_1hey: SamA wasn't joing about saturating benchamrsk in 2025

st.sioux: why does it have 3 decimals

.0xunkn0wn: this is another image agi

.0xunkn0wn: aaaaaaaa

hikukomoru: "benchamrsk" sounds like some Russian village

hey1_1hey: My hands are cold

hey1_1hey: Leave me alone

futurist_wizard: low t?

hey1_1hey: Tits?

hey1_1hey: Prob

hikukomoru: My hands are always freezing and i can type you retard

.0xunkn0wn: WHAT 😭

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864

.0xunkn0wn: 😳

hey1_1hey: Lmao

drewsni: whens the last time youve seen pricing of "$4.4" at a grocery?

hey1_1hey: I saw what you deleated

ldj: The y-axis is exponential here btw.
O3 is actually double of Claude-3.7-sonnet here

gamerbath:

.0xunkn0wn: woah

.0xunkn0wn: swe lancer is crazy

hey1_1hey: Swe bench

hey1_1hey: yipiee

drewsni: is aider just not good for oai? Seems to never be able to get higher scores

spicy.lemonade: damn they cant seem to get past 70 on swe bench

drewsni: btw just want everyone to realize that o1 preview released like september, o3 mini release jan

futurist_wizard: its over

aero447: https://tenor.com/view/mid-its-mid-ugly-nah-gif-19839131

spicy.lemonade: wait

spicy.lemonade: its 10% more

spicy.lemonade: than 3.7

spicy.lemonade: lmao

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

gamerbath: I think its just the benchmark difficulty increasing very steeply. Yo can have a benchmark with 95 questions like 2+2, and then the last 5 can be unsolved math problems. All AI models would score 95% on this benchmark, and it would look like progress has stagnated

st.sioux: i feel stupid i dont understand what it is doing


zonchao: claude 4 is the way

hikukomoru: We got new Gemini
And we're getting DeepSeek
This is too much for my weak heart

drewsni: looking good so far but its soooo slow, gonna take 2hrs to complete just 1 run

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/frog-king-shrek-gioated-gif-22410043

maintcrew: i feel like its trying to do too much

maintcrew: like an eager intern

metaldragon01: Rip rate limits

zonchao: why aren't they pushing it to gemini

zonchao: 😭😭😭😭

maintcrew: just use aistudio retard

zonchao: yes obviously but for the normies

hikukomoru: Who cares about them

zonchao: i do 😦

hikukomoru: Loser

okbut: https://blog.google/technology/google-deepmind/gemini-model-thinking-updates-march-2025/#building-on-best-gemini

maintcrew: the normies cant differentiate between a 7b and a 400b

okbut: AI studio is set default for the normies

darkstar0818: Its coding looks real good, but not quite sota.

maintcrew: did anyone use the google api

maintcrew: can i just use the openai sdk

maintcrew: or do i need their lame ass "genai" sdk

drewsni: ya you can now

drewsni: and its much better

literallyvarane: QUICK ARE WE GASSING IT FOR IS OR IS THE SINGULARITY OVER???

darkstar0818: Its interesting GPT 4.5 still beats it on SimpleQa

zonchao: Google woke up after a big nap

maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

zonchao: <:fatsad:1240464608498552892>

hikukomoru:

maintcrew: ancient wisdom so real

maintcrew: affirm by saying amen in the chat

memlaswaif: 4.5 is an obese model

hikukomoru: Morbidly a beast? You bet your ass

drewsni: ```The presence of numerous aircraft parked alongside the highway, combined with the Sapra trucking trailer, suggests proximity to Tinker Air Force Base. This base is near Oklahoma City, OK. The street view shows a multi-lane highway with aircraft clearly visible on one side, consistent with the I-40 location near Tinker AFB.```

ok not bad not bad

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/motomoto-gif-24380022

literallyvarane: I think simpleqa is as much a reflection of how big your model is as it is intelligence tbh. Odds are 4.5 is just a much fatter model.

okbut: We've never been so back

zonchao: is it a thinking model?

maintcrew: yeppers

literallyvarane: Yes