gamerbath: how come I never though of this

.histic: we need 2.5 Pro MAX

okbut: *Thus also beneficial to determine how much reasoning effort, for both cost and performance

gamerbath: wait

gamerbath: this is an option in cursor

.histic: yeah, i've no clue what that is and how cursor did that

okbut: Cost?

trey6033: Cursor unique, think it uses the full context window, whereas normal one is limited

gamerbath: 5 cents per request and tool call

.histic: might just be a fine-tuned 2.5 pro and not as if Google gave them an internal model they haven't released that uses far more thinking tokens..

gamerbath: just like 3.7 sonnet thinking

okbut: Oh it's not selectable?looks gray

trey6033: Max just means "1m context window"

trey6033: Whereas other one is like 256k or something like that

.histic: 3.7 Max is a real model though

trey6033: I know

trey6033: But max there is just something cursor did, not google

.histic: oh

trey6033: They just upped the context window, unlike for whatever reason they didn't with default

.histic: we need an updated 2.5 Pro asap

okbut: I'm wondering whether the cursor switch is worth it being a copilot/cline bro

gamerbath: it is, I just disabled it so I don't see it in the model selector. there's so many models in here

gamerbath: o3 and o4-mini further down. it doesn't say low medium or high so what's going on there? maybe it's just the default medium?

gamerbath: for the reasoning effort

.histic: defaults to high reasoning effort
Cursor confirmed this in a tweet

okbut: If cursor has this then vs code insiders must

okbut: Can't check yet tho

.histic:

gamerbath: I guess that explains why it took 30 minutes for it to implement a simple fix 3.7 sonnet did in 30 seconds

okbut: Aight I'm trying Cursor

gamerbath: it was just reading so many unrelated files, maybe it was overthinking and started hallucinating?

drewsni: cursor vs github copilot which is best currently

st.sioux: copilot is great on vscode but super buggy on jetbrains ides

st.sioux: i hate cursor personally

st.sioux: lol

drewsni: yeah cursors always been super wonky for me but it seems to be the best value

theaiguy69420_89814:

theaiguy69420_89814:

theaiguy69420_89814: cursor still the best value imo

theaiguy69420_89814: windsurf doesnt offer bring your own API key (BYOK), so its sort of slacking


joaoluz19: Hooooly

drewsni: genuinely wtf it isnt messed up any text so far right?

hey1_1hey: Yeah I think this is an AGI moment

neon01197: they do be cooking

hey1_1hey: I see why it took so long

drewsni: this is insane

hikukomoru: Texting Sama rn asking him to generate a hot dog girl

neon01197: first img they gen'd had a word miswritten

neon01197: (meant as a compliment, seems the rror rate is pretty low)

hey1_1hey: Damn bro hex codes aswell

hey1_1hey: They been cooking

hey1_1hey: Someone just fell over in the back 😭

drewsni: but like only one damn. This might actually end up saving money depending on how much it costs. Whenever i try to generate words i always end up running like 100 gens just to get 1 that is correct

hey1_1hey: AUTISTIC BEAR 😭

ai9708: autistic bear

hey1_1hey: WHAT

ailoveyoom: Autistic bear?

hey1_1hey: Chat clip that

joaoluz19: Artistic bear

joaoluz19: Common guys

ai9708: ours is funnier

connorsphone.: It forgot the dog

gamerbath: OH NO WAY

st.sioux: everyone is autistic now

hey1_1hey: Don't call me a filthy commonor

st.sioux: everything is autistic

drewsni: 3d models incoming

gamerbath: IT DOES TRANSPARENCY

hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOO

ailoveyoom: UBA = Universal Basic Autism

spicy.lemonade: NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

metaldragon01: Book covers about to go crazy

hey1_1hey: Zon gonna be coping hard with this

hey1_1hey: "Its not even that good"

joaoluz19: Lol it can remove background

hikukomoru: Still no hot dog girl
Bro left me on read

ailoveyoom: That means a bigger model makes a difference to image quality 🥵

gamerbath: "API soon" <:prayge:981798930113249300>

spicy.lemonade: YES

hey1_1hey: "2026"


joaoluz19: Many are annoying af

hey1_1hey: They are really good at getting acidental alcohol poisening

alejandrozarzuelo: I say this with love

trent_k: confirmation bias, u dont notice the ones who are normal and well adjusted

anathemaofmankind: This reminds me of that one time I got flirted with once in a McDonalds by a group of gay people

anathemaofmankind: I was 17

spicy.lemonade: I was only a simp for one girl

fractalcomputer: Oh, obviously many homosexuals are jovial and amicable people. But they're just boring.

hey1_1hey: True, the ones I know well enough at the very least

hikukomoru: That's just how brasilians usually are

anathemaofmankind: I'm not even kidding. That happened.

They were trying to offer me nuggets

hey1_1hey: Jared from accounting kinda boring or ?

fractalcomputer: They're all too comfortable with the cultural status quo and their ambitions are shallow; just like the rest of the mediocre masses.

spicy.lemonade: everyone should post the art they have been "working on"

spicy.lemonade: it ha to be furry

futurist_wizard: Your people

joaoluz19: I can't disagree lol

spicy.lemonade: thankfully no one noticed the age difference

trent_k: i put that i dont do art (because i dont have chatgpt paypig tier)

fractalcomputer: I can't stand modest people. They are quite repulsive.

hikukomoru: They're cool with it <:doomer:1136265388473196644>

spicy.lemonade: lmao

spicy.lemonade: ngl this is a furry server

trent_k:

spicy.lemonade: i wouldnt be surprised

futurist_wizard: Alejandro pfp should fit in

spicy.lemonade: notebook doodles look realistic asf

spicy.lemonade: they will never tell

spicy.lemonade: 😭

anathemaofmankind: Stop acting like you're not one of them <@505313122802728972>

Mr. expert of lolicon shit

hey1_1hey: That first sentence killed me

futurist_wizard: Its just Alejandro

hey1_1hey: mich mach for example

hey1_1hey: I mean I dont have any proof that he is a furry but yanno

hikukomoru: Aren't you into horses too

fractalcomputer: Banal is what this server has become.

hey1_1hey: No one would be supprised if he was

anathemaofmankind: Is this true <@430269783112548362>

hey1_1hey: Leave my horses out of this

maintcrew: ur lamenting the social realities while having the power to change your dislikings


hikukomoru: No that's Trent's real husband

hey1_1hey: Yeah craton is fine imo

trent_k: No, that's a real pic of me with a polish sailor at the Ukrainian refugee camp at the Warsaw central train station in 2022

hey1_1hey: I mean I saw someone offering crayon drawings on furry porn for 50 dollars one time

trent_k: We all called him Popeye because nobody knew his name and he always had that funny hat lol

trent_k: And he couldn't speak English well enough to have a real conversation

trent_k: He did know the word "segregate" tho which I thought was odd

futurist_wizard: I think it's the paper

hey1_1hey: Was gonna say, 4o would blow me away again if that was real

spicy.lemonade: ok gonna post

anathemaofmankind: Bro stop it

spicy.lemonade: what

anathemaofmankind: You're gonna get exposed

spicy.lemonade: bro if the believed the frog one

spicy.lemonade: they will believe this

st.sioux: no

spicy.lemonade: maybe I should add text to make it look legit

anathemaofmankind: It doesn't look real

spicy.lemonade: what about it looks fake

forallhumanity: The paper is too tan

anathemaofmankind: It's too clean and the paper is too shiny

hikukomoru: it's just the lighting

avizuradnb: That looks way too good lol

hey1_1hey: I think maybe too clean yeah

hey1_1hey: Maybe ask for "imprefect"

futurist_wizard: Its not the drawing its just the lighting isn't realistic

spicy.lemonade: ok

spicy.lemonade: told ai to generate faded pencil erasing

spicy.lemonade: eraser shavings

avizuradnb: I think it's the pencil strokes

st.sioux: you know how those people put the pencils besides the drawings for some reason

forallhumanity: Mhm

st.sioux: maybe do that

hey1_1hey: Good good

hey1_1hey: Hopefully that will look a  bit more realistic

futurist_wizard: Its difficult to get it to look real

futurist_wizard: Gpt wants to make it look very professional

gamerbath: have you tried telling it to make it not look professional?

gamerbath: or maybe you need to be more descriptive than that, but idk how to prompt that

spicy.lemonade: hmm


wolf3404: Good

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/yuko-yoshida-machikado-mazoku-scared-gif-15171156

spicy.lemonade: i want black mirror tech to become real

valimil: fdvr plz

spicy.lemonade: do we really have to give agi rights?

spicy.lemonade: in the last episode the guy got arrested for abusing digital lifeform

sieventer: I SAID FOLLOW ME, OR DO YOU WANT I GRAB YOUR ARM, DON'T MAKE IT HARD

spicy.lemonade: how else am i supposed to be god king in my fdvr world

spicy.lemonade: no rights for agi imo

spicy.lemonade: theyl be aight

sieventer: An ant deciding if humans should have rights 😏

himekokatagiri: o-okay... 😨

hikukomoru:

spicy.lemonade: gpt5 better not be incremental

alejandrozarzuelo: 4o was disappointing

himekokatagiri: Shit with all the hyping I expect the ninth wonder

alejandrozarzuelo: sad

spicy.lemonade: ?

spicy.lemonade: 4o was not dissapointing

spicy.lemonade: lol

alejandrozarzuelo: it was only a bit better than gemini 2.5

spicy.lemonade: you mean o4 mini?

alejandrozarzuelo: o4 i mean

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah

alejandrozarzuelo: srry

_cloudost: > Processing image
>
> Lots of people are creating images right now, so this might take a bit. We'll notify you when your image is ready.

alejandrozarzuelo: o4 was diappointing

alejandrozarzuelo: we aint getting AGI this year

_cloudost: Currently on chatGPT

alejandrozarzuelo: or next

alejandrozarzuelo: or this decade

alejandrozarzuelo: its so over

_cloudost: Ccp will invent AGI dw

spicy.lemonade: yes it was a bit disapointing. incremental update and reasoning over image felt like bruteforce. google has true omnimodal image reasoning

spicy.lemonade: but the benchmarks don lie

spicy.lemonade: especially enigma bench

spicy.lemonade: an upgrade non the less

spicy.lemonade: eh

spicy.lemonade: o3 is based on 4o

hikukomoru: Based


futurist_wizard: Yeah i am, i will piss all over the female toilet seats

futurist_wizard: Good luck

hikukomoru: Testosterone causes baldness so that means a real manly man is bald

futurist_wizard: It's actually dht

alejandrozarzuelo: ? Why do you contradict yourself at every 3 sentences

Being hairless is gay but body hair is also gay?

joaoluz19: My genetics are to have a lot of it's over

hey1_1hey: You just reminded me of the image where someone photoshoped some guys body hair into a suit 😭

futurist_wizard: Thankfully i have fairly good hair genes

okbut: If you're British, it does, wherein the population benefits from the metabolism from vitamin D because the country gets no fucking sunlight (thus lowering risk of cancers)

hikukomoru: Alejandro, I would think that by now you would be able to tell when I'm being serious and when I'm not

alejandrozarzuelo: I have good hair, I am proud of it and take great care if it, but I will probably fill the upper section when I get the chance, just to make it even better

alejandrozarzuelo: It seems you never are

joaoluz19: Everyone is gay - Kurt Cobain

futurist_wizard: Oooh

futurist_wizard: I must be very straight passing

alejandrozarzuelo: This is gender affirming therapies

And yes, cis guys like me can get gender affirming therapy, let's normalise it

hikukomoru: I am a deeply unserious person, in other words, silly

futurist_wizard: Cis men have gender dysphoria, they try to transition to hyper masculine

futurist_wizard: Being masculine does nothing in ones life

himekokatagiri: More of a sign of today's society tbh

alejandrozarzuelo: Society has valued masculinity since 10 000 BCE

futurist_wizard: Masculinity is currently strived for in today's current social climate

himekokatagiri: they clearly don't now

himekokatagiri: lol

joaoluz19: True

futurist_wizard: The final coping method

alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I think that getting your hair done is great and people should do it if they want to to have fuller heads

futurist_wizard: You mean like a transplant

joaoluz19: I don't understand the point of appealing to masculinity when both sexes are going to explode in post-humanism.

alejandrozarzuelo: Maybe we as a society become very masculine and we eliminate gender by becoming all masculine

himekokatagiri: lol no

alejandrozarzuelo: Why not

hikukomoru: God no

himekokatagiri: there's an appeal in cuteness

futurist_wizard: Terrible

alejandrozarzuelo: You are literally a lesbian 💀

joaoluz19: This is a question that Zizek explicitly asked "can sexuality survive the singularity?"

alejandrozarzuelo: Masculinity can be cute kawaii keai adorable too

hikukomoru: Are you calling me masculine you little shit

futurist_wizard: Im on my male misandry arc, 95% of the worlds issues are instigated by men


spicy.lemonade: studio ghibli could churn out a new movie based on the hype

spicy.lemonade: "oh its the guy who made the filter but for real"

.histic: ❓

spicy.lemonade: "guys lets go watch"

drewsni: they kinda are, and are making a killing

drewsni: the princess mononoke remaster is going to end up making 5x the amount it made from the original 1999 run to 2024

drewsni: thats 4 million from just friday and saturday, theaters today are even more sold out than they were yesterday, and theres still another week of the run

drewsni: AND thats only 330 theaters btw

.histic: for some reason using the phrase 'massive implants' bypasses 4o img gen.

clevermoniker:

clevermoniker: minus inflation

drewsni: which btw is as much per theater as oppenheimer made week 2

drewsni: not super relevant considering half of that amount was from 2018 and 2019

clevermoniker: hm i see

drewsni: but yeah that 1999 weekened would be double w/ inflation youre right about that

spicy.lemonade: loll

.histic: where did you get this from?

drewsni: you wanna see whats even more crazy?

clevermoniker: i don't know, i saved it on December 2022

.wolfnacht: Total Artist Death

drewsni: ok i was wrong about the avg per theater rev

drewsni: but its still significantly higher than any other movie right now that is playing in more than 5 theaters. And its only doing 1 to 2 showings per day

thedon7075: perfect

thedon7075: someone uses /pol

.wolfnacht: i h8 /pol/, i stay more active on /x/ and /g/

thedon7075: same

.wolfnacht: apart from /aicg/, /g/'s pretty much dead rn...and no new whistleblower came with his schizo theory on /x/....it's soo over

spicy.lemonade: damn

spicy.lemonade: those were the days

spicy.lemonade: strawberry leaks

spicy.lemonade: wonder what juicy stuff is being worked on

spicy.lemonade: stuff we know openAI s working on
1. realtime robotics agentic system (like figure)
2. cmputer use agents
3. realtime voice
4. obvious reasoning improvements
5. video

st.sioux: sponshbob was a visionary

ldj: where did you go

ldj: <a:yapping:1234215211649466408>

drewsni: probably spoiler that at least bruh

drewsni: but actually probably delete it

clevermoniker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB_FXZH1hn0

.wolfnacht: fineee

spacetimetsunami: According to this, at which point in time relative to task accuracy do you think is a good threshold for thinking about when automation becomes more disruptive? Like in early 2026 if AI is able to do tasks in (20min human equivalent) with 80% accuracy, this doesn’t seem like it would mean significant automation can begin, or could it?


himekokatagiri: hiiiii singularityfriends

himekokatagiri: what's up

himekokatagiri: what's down

technocake.: up is hype

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywP4I9kAAfE

technocake.: down is stocks

okbut: Yeah 21 or smthn

himekokatagiri: idk I don't buy stocks

alejandrozarzuelo: these guys are the worst

okbut: Oh the dude was in his description

zonchao: we need DEI for this genre

zonchao: https://x.com/techdevnotes/status/1910852794153652578 !

ailoveyoom: Like Projects?

ailoveyoom: Chat folders?

fuhulootogan: i'm not sure whether these videos are staged or not

fuhulootogan: how do you hide a camera staring directly at the person at different angles

zonchao: yea

alejandrozarzuelo: i hope they are stged

fuhulootogan: i think the most questionable part is how easily they got the strangers number

alejandrozarzuelo: otherwise its assault

fuhulootogan: lmao

fuhulootogan: i'm talking about whether the people they made contact with were told to do so or not

alejandrozarzuelo: ahhh

alejandrozarzuelo: maybe they are just friends

alejandrozarzuelo: or smth

alejandrozarzuelo: there was a video that was very outrageous and went viral but turns out it was a parody made by a group of friends and people were using it to say how women are really the worst etc etc

fuhulootogan: all prank videos are extremely questionable to me

zonchao:

fuhulootogan: i remember the bear or man bs on tiktok

fuhulootogan: i look back at how utterly useless that was

fuhulootogan: wait

fuhulootogan: can i send gifs

zonchao: no I will ban you

fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/ground-beef-grinder-gif-10187548

okbut: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1360636890965082395

okbut: You found it

himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/pink-floyd-pinkfloyd-thewall-wall-gif-6862041

hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yD9-rO92xFc

alejandrozarzuelo: nah thats not the favorite argument

alejandrozarzuelo: the favorite argument is "why do you care"


_cloudost: Hollywood will still stay?

_cloudost: We will be seeing YouTubers protest against AI

spicy.lemonade: It won’t be holywood level

spicy.lemonade: Actually

_cloudost: As such tools will most likely ruin entertainment

spicy.lemonade: It might be a very good 10-20 min clip

spicy.lemonade: Just not Hollywood movie

spicy.lemonade: Due to native image tech

spicy.lemonade: We might see a native image gen moment

spicy.lemonade: For video

ailoveyoom: You can be pro AI while acknowledging the risks tho

ailoveyoom: Be fr, easily accessible advanced image manipulation won't just be used for good

wellmeaningalien: Is roach man in our cult or not in our cult

wellmeaningalien: He needs to be excommunicated

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/pisscord-gif-7378587637875019303

hey1_1hey: Asmongold? What did he say about AI <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zonchao: he said things will only get worse for artists and they should deal with it instead of crying about it

zonchao: he is more e/acc than most on this server btw talks about ubi and shit

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

sarik0497: Rare Asmongold W

hey1_1hey: Damn didn't know he was so based

zonchao: not risks, i think he was just happy it's starting to happen, he thinks it'll happen to everyone and we will get ubi <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: Do people in his comments think hes schzio then

zonchao: afaik he was one of the firsts to support ai on youtube

zonchao: remember that corridor crew ai anime

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zonchao: idk, I don't read yt comments

st.sioux: do you really have to use that ugly ass dog on literally every single message you send

zonchao: https://youtu.be/XDuc932pToc?

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: Thats fair, Its a cesspit down there, I wouldnt't recomend

sarik0497: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

sarik0497: It's a cute dog

hey1_1hey: I am only a quarter way through and everything he has said so far has been so incredibly based

zonchao: yea he is very pro ai

zonchao: https://youtu.be/vO4lhga4Jjw?

zonchao: 2 years ago

zoermena: Does this mean you’ll double down on yesterdays comments 🎤

zonchao: what comments

.0xunkn0wn: can 4o image generation create like a heightmap and colormap


joaoluz19: I'm studying Ladder but will give it a look

okbut: Right-swipe elo, it's totally backwards from actually finding people good matches, but it boosts ego and keeps the person swiping on "pretty" people

joaoluz19: Who managed to make a 3b model go from 2% to 82% in calculus

joaoluz19: Of course, there is always a conflict of interest.

_3sphere: ASI will run a dating app as a public utility to avoid such perverse incentives :3

okbut: The unimaginable power of a mind upload for finding a match

hikukomoru: ASI match maker

joaoluz19: Literally me

_3sphere: What if we kissed both in the same zip file 😳

joaoluz19: Nah for me mind uploading is about paradise in many different ways, multiplying intelligence, stimulating positive emotions, rebuilding the environment

st.sioux: by that point we will have the perfectly engineered match

st.sioux: i hope

joaoluz19: That's the goal

okbut: If they figure out profiteering matches (over app usage)

joaoluz19: But as Entropy said, you know what's funny, it's about how little many men need

_3sphere: I just hope it won't cause craziness or extreme entitlement

joaoluz19: What you really need is love instead of just looks.

burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/jam3scampbell/status/1903892579097469345?t=HBkFzpP_bbeeiIgtJwb6Ww&s=19

hey1_1hey: We don't mention that part round here

sarik0497: Nothing really is shown to come this year atm besides GPT-5 <:sadcat:1160227095985787041>

ldj:

joaoluz19: Didn't they say this year is the year of agents?

okbut: Geologic timeline getting an update soon <:poggers:809097919776030730>

sarik0497: Maybe, but at the same time you have Dario claiming that AI will be a beast at programming by the end of this year

sarik0497: But until they show something

hikukomoru: R2?

.histic: GPT-5.5 too <:redemption:1136265386984222771>

sarik0497: Isn't that just a myth/rumor?

professorheaven: We still got 9 more months to go so we should probably see an R3 before end of year

professorheaven: It’s confirmed in April

hikukomoru: The release date was a just a rumour, the model is actually coming relatively soon

sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/nice-very-nice-willem-dafoe-donald-kimball-american-psycho-thats-great-gif-18161337

sarik0497: I hope they shall funnel new hopium into my veins.

hey1_1hey: I am looking forward to completing algebra 1, 2, geom, stats, and pre calc this year. Theres also more mushrooms to look forward to. Don't forget about the sunsets aswell

sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923

hey1_1hey: Quite a lot to look froward to actually

hikukomoru: Also I'm probably the only one, but I'm excited for Llama 4

hey1_1hey: Get checked

sarik0497: Oh yea...that exists.

professorheaven: Nah no chance


gamerbath: okay it's actually not bad

gamerbath: I feel like there's too much padding  in the input box now, but the servers list is much better

zoermena: What happened?

zoermena: Im so confused

hikukomoru: I want the old discord pls

gamerbath: restart ur discord

hikukomoru: Restart ur discord app

joaoluz19: Just go to Sora and change video to image here

zoermena: Im on my phone

hey1_1hey: Thats the part I dislike most

zoermena: Ohhh

hey1_1hey: I liked my big server icons

joaoluz19: Man how to go back to the old appearance wtf

hikukomoru: It's hard to read what y'all are saying

joaoluz19: This is so ugly

hey1_1hey: YOUTUBE FUCKED UP ASWELL

hikukomoru: GC is crying 💔

hey1_1hey: WHY IS THERE ONLY 4 VIDEOS FOR THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE SCREEN

gamerbath: everything is completely find actually, it's just too much padding some places, even with compact layout

joaoluz19: That was your fault for talking about the artists

hikukomoru: My YT looks fine

gamerbath: my youtube has been randomly selecting 4 or 5 for the past few months

hey1_1hey: I must be the sacrifical lamb

maintcrew: hey tangential but ytorrent is considered malware in the dev community

hikukomoru: Nevermind

maintcrew: get qbittorrent if ur on windows

gamerbath: also the spacing between videos on my youtube for some rows is off

hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I have that aswell

joaoluz19: Ok thanks bro

hikukomoru: Based qbittorrent user 🤝

hey1_1hey: I keep getting recomended youtube "playables" and I keep hitting not interested and then they go for awhile and they come back

hikukomoru: didn't know you were chill like that

st.sioux: > ytorrent

Lol

maintcrew: i use linux lol i have a cli torrent program i dont use qbittorrent

gamerbath: but guys, if you don't like the new discord look just relax, breath in and breathe out. In a week you won't find it so bad

hey1_1hey: Like why on gods green earth would I want to play shitty mobile games ON YOUTUBE if I came there to WATCH VIDEOS

maintcrew: tf do u want me to use the greek letter or??

st.sioux: no one calls it ytorrent bro

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/linux-femboy-arch-cute-femboyrell-gif-12123850081067751237

maintcrew:


gamerbath: o4-mini just made a change to a function in a file, which requires the function call in other files to change too but it hasn't done that. It has just been silently reading files for like the past 20 minutes

gamerbath: imma go take a shower because this is too slow

st.sioux: just kill it bro

trojan09205: Ngl the llama 3 on my raybans is actually pretty dope

trojan09205: I kind of feel like the actor in the movie Her

st.sioux: do u livestream with them?

trojan09205: I havent tried yet. Just got em this afternoon 🙂

trojan09205: They just have a really nice little agentic suite going on. Ask it questions- the stt is super fast. Follow up questions are on context. Can ask it to make reminders for you. Turn the convo into song suggestions. Its just really overall a helpful utility. Customized the voice to one that is tolerable

777agical: https://x.com/nearcyan/status/1912952857571336299?s=46

trojan09205: Actually smart move lol

777agical: yea...

trojan09205: There are practically zero downsides to AIs that flatter

a1c4p0ne: Is 2.5 flash smart?

gamerbath: it's good for its price range

metaldragon01: very false.  Theres a reason that echo chambers or surrounding yourself with "yes men" are considered bad things

gamerbath: well, by the looks of it on the benchmarks on google's own post about it

callmepyro: It's the newest SOTA non-thinking model by benchmark scores (if you turn off thinking mode)

callmepyro: Also it's about the price of 4.1 mini, so yeah it's pretty fuckin nuts

gamerbath: what benchmark scores are you referring to? on google's post about it they used reasoning in the benchmark

callmepyro: I'm referring to the non reasoning scores they posted in the benchmark

futurist_wizard: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/news-eu-bans-ai-assistants-virtual-meetings/

hikukomoru: AI programmed to love you = AI that won't kill you in the future

hikukomoru: Seems like a good thing idk

callmepyro: These

futurist_wizard: Ban ban restrict, under invest, ban

The path of the EU

callmepyro: 74% on GPQA with reasoning disabled

gamerbath: well that's something. I thought you were reffering to this, where they only show 2.5 flash thinking

callmepyro: Yeah, no I wasn't looking at those

metaldragon01: something telling you what you want to hear isn't the same as loving you. people who love you tell you the hard truth.

gamerbath: wait i reply ping'd the wrong guy pls ignore wayne guy

futurist_wizard: Jesus

futurist_wizard: Gemini cheaper by 10x than o4 mini, basically similar results

futurist_wizard: Its over

st.sioux: how do u look at that chart and say they have "similar results"

gamerbath: eeeh, look at the output cost of 2.5 flash with reasoning. it's significantly higher than without reasoning. the input is extremely cheap though

metaldragon01: its closer to o3 medium imo

trojan09205: Sorry went afk. I guess i just like when the AIs can really connect with me

futurist_wizard: Humanities last exam, les than a 2% increase

futurist_wizard: Or barely a bit above

metaldragon01: its going to come down to reliability


sweetievee__33649: what does blindsight do? Give blind people back their vision or something

wellmeaningalien: fire

wellmeaningalien: restore a primitive form of vision

zonchao: yes, but probably a blurry mess for starters... better than nothing ig... will have to see

sweetievee__33649: i dont think anyone is saying that its a bad thing lol. Blind people getting back their vision is always a good thing even if its super blurry

hikukomoru: I wish Elon just did shit like this and stayed out of politics

zonchao: i can imagine, in the future we will be able to see outside the visible spectrum with some enhancements

zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

ldj: Im not trying to be mean or antagonistic, just trying to be blunt about it

sweetievee__33649: elons cool even with his politics although i would tend to agree with you that he needs to stay out of poltics and just get back to doing cool stuff

sweetievee__33649: like imagining new colours?

wellmeaningalien: you pwned him

wellmeaningalien: he does talk about morality a lot

zonchao: it was sadly necessary for his companies and in his view "humanity"... I will not elaborate 😤 maybe in <#1136231504440201216>

wellmeaningalien: personally i think id wait it out further until it gets better lol

zonchao: infrared etc

zonchao: yea, heard they will have a couple dozen normie link patients this year with big upgrades

sweetievee__33649: go wild there sure

sweetievee__33649: i think it would depend on how easy it would be to 'upgrade'. You woulldnt want to keep getting repeat open brain surgeries

wellmeaningalien: yea same

wellmeaningalien: i wonder how reversible neuralink is so that youre not stuck with last year's thing

wellmeaningalien: they planned anything out for that?

zonchao: rn it's not upgradeable but the first neuralink patient said he is hopeful 🥺

wellmeaningalien: so its just running on jope and dreams

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

zonchao: they are still early in development, probably not that far

hikukomoru: That's usually how Elon runs yeah

sweetievee__33649: i would hope so i sure as hell wouldnt want my neuralink bci to tweek out and then i suddenly have seizure

clevermoniker: https://vxtwitter.com/runwayml/status/1906718935778545964

wellmeaningalien: i mean putting electrodes in one's brain is a big thing but i guess theyre less worried about long term and just putting things in people's head

wellmeaningalien: ngl idk if this is better than veo 2

sweetievee__33649: i love winning

hikukomoru: I believe in Elon though

wellmeaningalien: some of the examples looked shit

wellmeaningalien: i mean neuralink is fucking cool nobody else is doing anything like that

clevermoniker: at least less censored i would say

wellmeaningalien: he singlehandedly is pushing BCIs to market adoption

zonchao: these are non issues rn, the entire thing could change in a year, not worth it to optimize rn

sweetievee__33649: the red tape would be crazy i imagine

wellmeaningalien: well i doubt you would know


bob082957: It’s a app

bob082957: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/manus-ai/id6740909540

.histic: 2.5 Pro scored 51% on [SimpleBench](https://simple-bench.com/)
5% higher than 3.7 Thinking on spatial reasoning, social understanding, and trick questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTslCsPBGHw

drewsni: <@269678268670672896> first run had 2.5 pro w/ grounding at 3236 avg, ahead of o1's 3139

technocake.: erm guys, this is for us https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1jm60ma/ai_twitter_in_2025/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

drewsni: And before anyone asks. No I cannot afford to run o1 pro and I cannot afford to run o1 w/ search either

trent_k: brutally owned myself

technocake.: sounds like mine tbf

zoermena: I just got 4o ratecucked

futurist_wizard: Pay up

zoermena: To pro you say?

futurist_wizard: Bruh

technocake.: I'm trying to buy a house, is that absolute insanity given the probable next 5 years of development?

.histic: yeah, i sometimes have to wait 6 minutes

zoermena: Have you gotten any messages of "ufortunately we can´t make images rn to make it smoother etc"

zoermena: Depends on how big it is

zoermena: and where it is

technocake.: London RIP

futurist_wizard: Yes

.histic: usually just a response of you've been rate limited for x amount of minutes. <:idk:1136264106937171999>

futurist_wizard: You'd be better off renting and chucking that money into etfs

technocake.: cheaper than my current rental with many benefits

zoermena: I'd imagine you'd buy a house beyond it's investment value accounting for Singularity it could be more of a safety net.

futurist_wizard: Why would a house be a safety net accounting for the singularity

zoermena: Because you would have somewhere to live, something that is truly yours legally.

technocake.: I expect land and space to have high value post singularity

technocake.: esp on earth

futurist_wizard: Or it could be much less

technocake.: either way, i can just deffault for no loss

zoermena: I think that earth land would be extremely valuable just because it's on "earth" relative to whatever other planets we might colonize/terraform

futurist_wizard: Post singularity the amount of efficiency we could get in a smaller and smaller area, it would almost certainly devalue

futurist_wizard: You'd be better off just buying farm land

futurist_wizard: If that is your actual reasoning

zoermena: Any land is good imo.

technocake.: my reasoning is -> high value land singularity, quids in

technocake.: ¬> low value land singularity, default for no loss and live in infinite prodduct bliss anyway

futurist_wizard: It also depends on how you envision da world post singularity, some time after singularity years decades whatever, i envision everyone mind uploading, turning earth or mars or whatever into a giant computer

futurist_wizard: Worrying about investments is like a agi worry

technocake.: exactly, the rules will fundamentally change

theaiguy69420_89814: Check this out


hikukomoru: I don't really mind those memes
And if we actually became a real BR territory that would mean more hot brasilian girls so that's fine with me

zoermena: Intern as delivery driver is insane

himekokatagiri: in FDVR you can just simulate 1927, go to a hardware store and buy a Tommy gun no questions asked

himekokatagiri: or idk mail order one.

joaoluz19: Based

joaoluz19: LMAO

hey1_1hey: I remember quite a lot of my dreams, usually they make sense or are just weird. I dont usually get bad dreams at all.

joaoluz19: This meme fires actually

futurist_wizard: I mostly have nightmares

hey1_1hey: I do sometimes get random dreams from 3 weeks ago pop into my conciosenss and go "Huh yeah, that one sure was weird"

joaoluz19: He just manage data, input things in the system that type of thing

hikukomoru: Really living up to your pfp huh

.histic: i remember none of my dreams

hey1_1hey: This just might be the people I talk to but apertly people usually have bad dreams more than good dreams

joaoluz19: He doesn't deliver physically

himekokatagiri: don't be fooled by the cute exterior komoru wants to do worse

hey1_1hey: I remember all of them in great detail and I dream every night without fail! But I can't imagine anything in my head...

hey1_1hey: Whats up with that

hey1_1hey: Complete amphatasia

futurist_wizard: My good dreams arent amazing, they are just chill hanging out with friends i don't know

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/hug-monsterinc-cute-boo-kitty-gif-4663332

.histic: wait, that's actually a weird combo

joaoluz19: Wgmi bros that's it

joaoluz19: Komoru with his maid

hikukomoru: I wouldn't even harm a single fly

.histic: i can imagine things vividly in my head but rarely remember my dreams

hey1_1hey: Mine are either hanging out with the bros, flying, doing some cool shit, AI or mushrooms

futurist_wizard: Sounds like you lucid dream

hey1_1hey: Yeah I am not too sure whats up with it. Its like I channel all my imagination power for when I am not conciose

hey1_1hey: Yeah I do, every night some how. I always have done

zoermena: Ah it’s because himeku is a delivery driver

futurist_wizard: I can't lucid dream, some of my dreams are very vivid so i guess it doesn't matter

hikukomoru: conscious*
Channel a bit of that brainpower for spelling won't you

hey1_1hey: I also have concurrent dreams where if I think "I want to dream about this" I will and it will continue on from before. I've had this one dream that I've had for years and its just a tv series pretty much

metaldragon01: No reason not to tbh

zoermena: Lucky rascal

futurist_wizard: In almost all of my dreams im a young child

hey1_1hey: Conscious is litterly a word I can't spell.

joaoluz19: Yeah I was answering that still exists some entry-level administrative jobs here

hey1_1hey: Really am, I find it weird people dont dream every night because yanno... what do you do?


theaiguy69420_89814: I can. You know why? More compute, more data

theaiguy69420_89814: Than you, at least

spicy.lemonade: Geometric series

theaiguy69420_89814: Suck to have been shaken as a child; I suppose we can use you as what *not* to do

fractalcomputer: Correct.

fractalcomputer: What?

spicy.lemonade: 😭

spicy.lemonade: Bros gone ful schizo

theaiguy69420_89814: Lol

_3sphere: They form a regular origin-centered polygon for some reason and its center is the origin :3

theaiguy69420_89814: Bit of a stretch, but it seems like fractal is simply touting rationalism as the chief source of knowledge simply in order to maintain his sense of intellectual seniority;

This would explain that aforementioned math proof request and the dismissal of AGI claims

.wolfnacht: dats not him

_3sphere: hm, I probably would actually try to go through the polar coordinate thing

_3sphere: there's probably a better way but that should work

fractalcomputer: In what sense "should" work?

_3sphere: If you can prove that they really are shaped like an origin-centered regular polygon if plotted in 2D, their sum being zero follows from that

fractalcomputer: I'd rather appreciate if you tried not to psychoanalyse me.

fractalcomputer: How?

fractalcomputer: Show your work.

fractalcomputer: Say, then Spicy, do you remember the old proof for the sum of a geometric series?

theaiguy69420_89814: Sorry, force of habit

theaiguy69420_89814: However, a useful model to support the complete dismissal of your ideas

theaiguy69420_89814: Come back when you link an AI paper, I suppose

fractalcomputer: Alright. Atrone, maybe you should take a break from Discord for a while.

_3sphere: raising a complex number to a power multiplies its argument (angle from +X axis) by the exponent, and multiple turns is the same as no turn, so the set of all numbers that ^N to 1 is e^z where z times an integer is a multiple of 2pi, and that's e^(2pi n/N)... idk 😭

_3sphere: I don't think I proved anything ever

_3sphere: ...yeah that seems easier

fractalcomputer: You still haven't established a connection with the sum of these roots.

_3sphere: Is their rotational symmetry enough

fractalcomputer: No.

sweetievee__33649: who dis?

maintcrew: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1907121732785168461

.histic: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907490132040601712

3ds0662: o3 is not coming out tomorrow

3ds0662: and it is now april 2nd today

3ds0662: does R2 come out this month? that is the question

zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1907494566430757239?

sweetievee__33649: https://x.com/wintermoat/status/1907474522514797018 not sure how real this is but thought id share

literallyvarane: Gemini 2.51 pro

joaoluz19: It's incredible how in AI we're talking about there being no more programmers in 2 years and literally a God in 15 and in neuroscience we're talking about tests to control the mouse pointer with the brain lol


futurist_wizard: If its not certain i can easily beat the fuck of the guy, im instantly put on edge by them even being a room with me

hikukomoru: ?

wellmeaningalien: i think all normies were pro ai off the hook. even despite what happened in the media with ai, they are still generally favorable towards it

futurist_wizard:

brain4brain: Twitter echo chamber, more normies are now pro-AI than anti-AI

brain4brain: All anti-ai post are getting booed off the internet

wellmeaningalien: the other day i was with a group of complete strangers, we were talking about ourselves and i mentioned to them i have an interest in AI, they said "thats good, thats cool, youre preparing for the future"

hikukomoru: You're too paranoid 💔

brain4brain: In both popular reply, newest reply, and qrt

futurist_wizard: In my dna

brain4brain: We finally won

hikukomoru: I get spooked by all men

wellmeaningalien: twitter is not the world, twitter is just a very loud 1/20th fraction of the world, and only like 1000 of those people are relevant to the discussion

wellmeaningalien: really? but mark and milchick from severance

futurist_wizard: I remember i had a male therapist and most of the time i was thinking of a plan in the event of him attacking me, even though he was some manlet

wellmeaningalien: ok to be fair youd be right to be scared of milchick

wellmeaningalien:

hikukomoru: We haven't won until I can run AGI on my pc

wellmeaningalien: dylan

hikukomoru: Idk who this is but he looks creepy

wellmeaningalien: im not the only one who plans what would happen if people suddenly fight me

wellmeaningalien: ur therapist is crazy tho

wellmeaningalien: he's just silly bro

hikukomoru: No he looks creepy

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/mark-s-mark-scout-severance-music-dance-experience-dance-party-gif-14871933351722719444

wellmeaningalien: HES SILLY BRO

futurist_wizard: Why was he crazy, i was the one scanning the room for objects to stab him with

brain4brain: DeepSeek R3

wellmeaningalien: no

futurist_wizard: Schizophrenia runs in my family

hikukomoru: That's not AGI bro

wellmeaningalien: im saying wanting to fight ur therapist is crazy

hikukomoru: Not even close

wellmeaningalien: lolz

wellmeaningalien: says person with deepseek r3 on their computer

futurist_wizard: I didn't say i wanted to

wellmeaningalien: yeah yeah

hikukomoru: I don't have deepseek on my pc 😭

wellmeaningalien: idiot

wellmeaningalien: i have deepseek r1 qwen 32b locked and loaded on my peecee


spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: tf

spicy.lemonade: all that because he giblified an image

spicy.lemonade: loll

st.sioux: preach

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: this is hilarious

ldj: Okay but is there any source at all that proves this original tweet is even a true quote?

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Idk

zonchao: https://x.com/ishigyunyu/status/1907052584709320791?

ldj: yep found it just now too lol

drewsni: The one piece director doesn’t understand copyright and fair use?

ldj:

ldj: this seems to be a better translation

zonchao: isn't japan like super pro ai art

zonchao: legally

zonchao: 🤔

drewsni: Literally last time ghibli brand was this valuable was 1999

zonchao: ghibli poasters should pivot to one piece poasting

ldj: yep <:EZ:1033548858262835331>

drewsni: Nobody cared about the ghibli brand when it was being piecemealed and sold off over the last 2 decades

drewsni: Nobody cares when every anime/comic convention has 50% of vendors selling counterfeit ghibli merch

drewsni: Literally making money on it

drewsni: God forbid people generate pictures that make them happy

drewsni:

drewsni: Literally hitler

brain4brain: >Tarnish the value of the Ghibli brand
>Ghibli movie literally shot up in popularity and awareness
>All ticket for Ghibli movie sold out

<:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

brain4brain: https://x.com/_akhaliq/status/1907255335607247087?s=61

destrucules: How dare humans have fun! Don't they know that the financial viability of a large corporation could be affected?

destrucules: Can you imagine millions of humans getting joy out of something that could possibly affect sales figures that rich guys will look at in a board meeting before giving themselves huge bonuses?

destrucules: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nKPHd5I65mQ

spacetimetsunami: <@378996537704841216>

https://www.forethought.org/research/preparing-for-the-intelligence-explosion

this article is great and has successfully scared the shit out of me haha

brain4brain: Are there any digital moravec question left? Most of it seems solved and the one that aren’t seems like an issue of scale/ research (agentic capabilities), I’ve been looking everywhere and I can’t anything where human can easily do but LLM can’t anymore

clevermoniker: and in ghibli's case its actually increasing sales... lol

spacetimetsunami: I think about this so often when people get all pissy about the ghibli shit

spacetimetsunami: It popularizes ghibli

spacetimetsunami: Why would they even give a shit

destrucules: ARC-AGI 2 kinda but not really

st.sioux: ai art stole my soul bro


ak.vs_: AI is going to humiliate most or all of humanity once everyone has access to on demand superintelligent analysis of anything and everything, because it will expose the true motivations behind all the things that people do and say. Also it's likely that everything that everyone has ever done on the internet will be able to be pattern matched and traced back to it's source by an AI with a context length the size of the internet

ak.vs_: Ultimately will be a good thing for humanity

.histic: <@471334973379706900>

realelonmuskx: AI DID THIS BRO WTF

_cloudost: Can't wait to see how ChatGPT-5 generates images

st.sioux: im not scared of that really, most motivations are pretty superficial or evident already

realelonmuskx: forget about it look at this now, its insane, imagine in 2030. artists are completely Grilled, Roasted, Baked, Broiled, Toasted, Sautéed, Pan-fried, Stir-fried, Fried, Seared, Boiled, Steamed, Poached, Braised, Smoked, Slow-cooked, Simmered, Charred, Caramelized, Blistered, Crisped, Crusted, Flambéed

.histic: https://x.com/jonathanbfine/status/1905446551251534117

wellmeaningalien:

.histic: what am i looking at

realelonmuskx:

ak.vs_:

realelonmuskx: we hab to exterminate ai artists

zonchao: he in fact DID NOT learn it

_cloudost: Mods, pin this pin

_cloudost: 📌

.histic: i had to give a rebuttal back.
(yes i liked my own reply lol)

st.sioux: i wanted to stalk you but i cant even use x

.histic: i don't even use xitter seriously.
i just reply to people sometimes.
don't post <:idk:1136264106937171999>

st.sioux: praise musk for not making a functioning website

.histic: brain4brain has twitter too
https://x.com/NotBrain4brain

realelonmuskx: why antis dont raid open ai hq

.histic: because they don't have a soul <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

_cloudost: OpenAI needs to install turrets soon to protect themselves from criminal antis

_cloudost: Neat reply

_cloudost: Nailed

realelonmuskx: if they dont resist and only cry online nothing will happen. this guys https://www.stopai.info/ still alive?

wellmeaningalien: https://www.ktvu.com/news/stop-ai-organization-protest-outside-openai-headquarters

.histic: someone ghiblify this or make it like south park.

st.sioux: their website is shit, should use ai to improve it

wellmeaningalien: lol it fits right in

.histic: i got this

wellmeaningalien: oh this one is better ngl

wellmeaningalien: u using sora right

.histic: yeah, two outputs.
also, you can queue outputs too. so they generate simultaneously.

wellmeaningalien: nice

.histic:

.histic: original -> south park version

wellmeaningalien: this is funny as shit lmao

.histic: https://x.com/OlafCodeCoach/status/1902967116313297271
i'm going to reply this to their post <:LOL:1187460826572005436>


literallyvarane: Quick question. When OpenAI talks about rate limits for its models, is that LITERALLY any message?

For example, if I’m using o3, I give it some big prompt with a big response, then ask it to quickly just release the first word of that response, is *literally any* response from the model, regardless of length, counted?

literallyvarane: Is it a practical point to switch the model down to 4o for secondary questions etc?

zoermena: Do you have plus?

literallyvarane: Yeah

literallyvarane: I don’t actually think I’m going to run into the rate limits, I’m just curious exactly how it’s tracked.

zoermena: It’s for every message AFAIK, I doubt you send that many messages but it’s easy to distribute it between o4 minis and o3 for a day

trojan09205: Yes it should be

trojan09205: I use that approach bro. You can get the bigger smarter models to do the thinking and then send that chat log to a dumber cheaper model. I do that when I want to generate a Mermaid diagram based on advanced thinking. Usually even gpt-4o-mini is fine for mermaid and I avoid paying the extra cost

sarik0497: Honestly, I'd not be surprised either.

We (humans) are already observing a small tribe on Sentinel Island, trying not to interfere with them. It's not entirely insane to then imagine that far more advanced beings are doing the same with us, waiting for us to reach a certain threshold before making contact.

fractalcomputer: Pointless anthropomorphism.

spicy.lemonade: What happens after we get accepted into the galactic federation

spicy.lemonade: Do we have to become a hive mind <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

spicy.lemonade: I recon the ASI will be doing the negotiations

bob082957: Yeh I want the blueprints for the replicator to

trent_k: he's a punk bitch

trent_k: fat dropout retard scamming money

futurist_wizard: There probably isn't a galactic federation

trent_k: altho

trent_k: he's very funny

trent_k: his 5000 word essay about how it's not his fault he's fat and eating too much has nothing to do with ending up fat is one of the funniest things ive ever read

trent_k: pure, uncut copium. inject in right into my veins. copium blackpill speedball

hikukomoru:

hey1_1hey: It couldn't of been as bad as that one time I heard someone say that the reason they are fat is because bigger people need more oxygen and thats what makes them gain weight <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

trent_k: best fat cope ive ever heard i think is the "aquatic ape theory"

trent_k: that one's a fun rabbit hole

trent_k: it's almost like a conspiracy theory + evolutionary hand-waving for fatsos

hey1_1hey: Thats a new one to me. Is that something to do with that being fat is actually a good thing because it makes you float in the water better ?

hikukomoru: Subcutaneous fat to protect from the cold water

hikukomoru: Like walruses

alejandrozarzuelo: this doesnt make much sense

futurist_wizard: Elaborate my dear boy

alejandrozarzuelo: chinese efficiency means that they have a very large base to start making millions of robots almost instantly, but the growth rate eill not be exponential

alejandrozarzuelo: the growth from 0 to 10m (the order of magnitude of the number of cars china produces) will take very little despite it representing a 1000x growth from current production rate

futurist_wizard: I believe china is expected to produce 5,000 robots in 2025

futurist_wizard: 5-10k

alejandrozarzuelo: meanwhile, the later 100x production factor will take longer since we would need to increase metal production beyond what we currently have and energy

alejandrozarzuelo: this is why this is not software

alejandrozarzuelo: you cannot accurately forecast yearly production by using software logic

futurist_wizard: Where are you getting this millions of numbers from

alejandrozarzuelo: lets say that androids are economically feasible to build this year of 2025, going from 10k to 10m a year will take only one economic cycle, 5 years only, it has happened before

this is a doubling of every 6 months during this period

meanwhile, going from 10m to 100m or 1000m a year will take muuuuuuch longer as you cannot leverage current production capacity you need to create new productive capacity


memlaswaif: redditors deserve worse

wellmeaningalien: HOORAY REDDIT WE DID IT

memlaswaif: wholesome chungus elon reddit Trump bad moment

ailoveyoom: AskOuija 💀

burnytech: https://tenor.com/view/steamroller-flattened-frogger-arcade-cartoon-gif-3947370806596607199

alejandrozarzuelo: chinese AI is ahead of US AI on video gen

alejandrozarzuelo: has been for a while

_cloudost: Should we kill antis

brain4brain: Don't scoop down to their level

brain4brain: They are animals

brain4brain: We should be civilized and just ban them off the internet

brain4brain: They get excluded from part of society where they aren't a loser

brain4brain: And shitty argument can't be made anynore

brain4brain: Win-win

popsiclejohnithan: This is only the beginning, Luddite violence is only going to get worse and worse as they get more desperate, expect bombings and other terrorist attacks.

brain4brain: And it's also more plausible, the SF tech-bro that is pro-AI basically controls the internet

brain4brain: I don't think they can actually do any damage

retrerox: Good morning

retrerox: Bom dia

brain4brain: Data centers are very well guarded

popsiclejohnithan: Never underestemate the enemy.

retrerox: Guten tag

retrerox: Uh

retrerox: Idk however AI says good morning

brain4brain: Gyat mogging

brain4brain: The reason they attack Tesla instead of the factory is because the factory is well guarded, the Tesla are not

brain4brain: These anti poses no threate except for being very annoying

popsiclejohnithan: For the sake of us all i hope you're right.

thedon7075: 4.1 benchmarks

popsiclejohnithan: If these fools had their way we'd all still be in caves.

brain4brain: As you say, they are fools

brain4brain: They won't and can't do anything

brain4brain: Most of them are reddit dwelling people

popsiclejohnithan: History has shown that fools can still cause a lot of damage.

retrerox: So its 4.1 big?

brain4brain: As expected, seems to correlate to size, in ARC AGI and live bench and X/O bench it got worse than 4.5 but outperform 4.5 at coding

thedon7075: 4.1 mini achieving the same score as 4o at 25x less cost is a good sign

brain4brain: Indeed they can

popsiclejohnithan: That's what i'm saying, we shouldn't shrug these people off, they are a threat trust me, espeshally as their numbers grow, and their numbers will grow, most people are anti A.I., we are outnumbered by them.

brain4brain: The tariff war cuts off the humanoid supply


brain4brain: I want AGI 2025

brain4brain: My own math says AGI 2025

spacetimetsunami: Check it;

ASI 2025
AGI 2026
LEV 2027
FDVR, 1992..
Super mega ultra ASI, 2025 (rn tho, it’s me)

rayanquitplayin: How does tokenization differ across languages?

brain4brain: 7 hours remaining

st.sioux: agi in 7 hours????

brain4brain: Vector space connects it maybe, I'm not sure, I only watched a few 3blue1brown videos

brain4brain: Close, but more open source reasoning model

brain4brain: Mamba

brain4brain: O3-mini level

_3sphere: FDVR 1 month ago, I was lucid for 4 seconds

rayanquitplayin: Vectors like in math?

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

_3sphere: Shared embeddings sure, but generally non-English gets tokenized less efficiently

alejandrozarzuelo: yes?

alejandrozarzuelo: we all store information in vectors

alejandrozarzuelo: we think in highly dimensional vector spaced

alejandrozarzuelo: in fact this is an argument for the similarity of thought between us and AI

rayanquitplayin:

rayanquitplayin: I don’t think it’s very similar

rayanquitplayin: Tbh I think AI thought is inherently better

st.sioux: imma store some information in his vector

alejandrozarzuelo: very similar in the sense that it couldnt be any other way

rayanquitplayin: What does this mean? Humans do this with their brain?

frittata: Cats and dogs are definitely self aware on a low level <:bruh:1303825143344267305> I can only imagine those of you that think otherwise have never had one, or have never paid attention to it if you have

frittata: I will take no questions at this time

frittata: Anyway how does this relate to AI

_3sphere: I will add that cats are definitely aware of their bodies too 🐱

ailoveyoom: As a dog, can confirm 🐕🦺

rayanquitplayin: Cats have 9 lives

brain4brain: I accidentally lucid dreamed many time, usually from fearing too much then realizing it was a dream and tried to escape by swimming in the air upward, but another time I accidentally did it, this time I use it wisely for something 😈

Only lasted a few seconds though, when prophetic headset comes out and proven definitely buying

brain4brain: Absolutely

brain4brain: Another is that sometimes Gemini generated something in Indian right before coming back to English token and I don’t know why

alejandrozarzuelo: cats and dogs dont dream of LEV

_3sphere: "Inefficient" token use can actually be good for thinking, as shown by the thinking dots paper

_3sphere: Where they had it just go ............ and some thinking went on in the residual stream while generating the dots

rayanquitplayin: I didn’t realize vectors take up physical space

brain4brain: Also do you guys think LLM generate new content or just regurgitate stuff

brain4brain: Depends on what vector you’re talking about

brain4brain: LLM vector is just a bunch of number values that is large enough to be emergent to a sort of semantic understanding, I think


memlaswaif: I like being happy

futurist_wizard: I think the real world has a positive ratio on suffering

oooooooooog: me too, it's my favorite feeling

oooooooooog: but it's way too easy to feel happy

oooooooooog: you just have to smile and bam

oooooooooog: happy

oooooooooog: whereas u can't get sad by frowning

oooooooooog: it's harder to do

futurist_wizard: Happiness is gay

oooooooooog: thats what the word means

memlaswaif: rezero single handedly made me stop watching weeb stuff

futurist_wizard: Gay men are happy when they are kissing boys, this isn't a coincidence

oooooooooog: how 😭

oooooooooog: what part in particular bro

futurist_wizard: And then you became happy after rejecting anime

oooooooooog: is it because subaru is cringe... ??? i can get that at least. sometimes i have to close my eyes when that happens, or it's too intense for me

destrucules: Already are

destrucules: Humans typically use about 10^24 FLOPs to reach cognitive maturity

spacetimetsunami: No, I mean levels of computation relative to cognitive tasks.

memlaswaif: Probably a while

memlaswaif: Idthink with current paradigm

futurist_wizard: I think about 20

futurist_wizard: Until AGI

st.sioux: we need at least 10,000

oooooooooog: 10,000 what, oranges, monkeys, lemon?

destrucules: The human brain typically activates ~10-25% of its synapses per cortical layer per forward pass. So with 10^14 total synapses, at least 10^13 activate per forward pass. Only a few of these happen per second, tied to reaction time. So a few times 10^13 activations per second. 32 years is 10^9 seconds. That's a few times 10^22 activations in your brain by the time you reach adulthood. So, why say 10^24? Because people will usually argue that no, we actually do this professing, or that processing, or no you didn't consider this, or actually the average firing rate per synapse is 10^0±1 Hz, or whenever. If it's 10 Hz per synapse across the whole brain, then it's 10^15 x 10^9 = 10^24 activations. You could also say there's a few floating point operations per activation, so a few 10^22 activations is maybe 10^23 or a few 10^23 FLOPs.

futurist_wizard: 5,000 would just about do it

spacetimetsunami: I’m seeing that humans have 10^18 FLOPS in the brain. Some LLMs exceed 10^24

futurist_wizard: Maybe 7,000

otub: we need about tree fiddy

spacetimetsunami: Also I don’t think anyone seriously thinks LLMs are as computationally efficient as the human brain.

destrucules: I mean, how many tokens to match the human brain? If we exhibit about 10^14 activations per second, then 10^14 / 17e9 = 6k tokens to equate to one second of human thought

destrucules: 10^18 is way too low

spacetimetsunami: Yeah I’m trying to read some stuff about it right now. I mean we’re just trying to define how much FLOPS the human brain has in storage, right?

destrucules: Llama 4 Maverick with 17B active parameters per token is absolutely doing more with 6k tokens than you or I do with one second of thinking time

spacetimetsunami: Or would that not be a good analogue to how it’s measured in LLMs

destrucules: Storage? That's not what FLOPs are

oooooooooog: floating point operations per second

st.sioux: flops is floating point operations per second

oooooooooog: ypuispelled it wtng


ldj: the page is bugged lol

ldj: I don't want to set false expectations though, I think I probably have some beyond the norm problems with cellular oxidation and inflammatory processes, maybe due to certain genetic predispositions (which also effects neuroinflammation in the brain and likely plays a role into my early arthritis) So I very well may just benefit from this significantly more than the average person would, and maybe the average person would hardly notice anything, especially depending on how perceptive they are to these types of changes in their body or psyche.

drewsni: nah its probably gonna be good for me, brocolli is actually the one veg i really do not enjoy eating lol

a1c4p0ne: So don’t use any of those <:ez:1136267305521774634>

destrucules: Very possible if we slow down

metaldragon01: i prob should wait to see how gpt 5 and claude 4 do but still.

metaldragon01: its time

metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/CongWei1230/status/1906877381899415945

metaldragon01: gen 4 + this = AI movies this year

metaldragon01: grrr nm no code >.<

metaldragon01: Meta though so.....maybe?

zoermena: Is eight sleep as good as they say it is? If you could describe a before and after of sleeping with eight sleep? Thanks! 👍

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: this is perfect

spicy.lemonade: 😭

spicy.lemonade: the best counter

theaiguy69420_89814: I just take D3 and magnesium

theaiguy69420_89814: Cuz not a lot of sun where I live

ldj: I've had it for so many years now, it's hard to say.
Biggest things comfort wise is definitely just being able to control the temperature of my bed though.
I have the eightsleep 2, but they are on version 4 already so im sure its even better

ldj: but with the gen 2, the surface is a bit stiff and rough, but I have a gel topper that I put between the sensors and the sheet and its mostly pretty comfortable still, but overall it makes your mattress atleast a bit more firm though.

st.sioux: TIL there is a subscription matress

ldj: and then ofc you have the health tracking parts, it really depends how into the whole health tracking thing you are, but I personally find it very valuable, especially the fact that I don't have to wear an apple watch or anything like that to sleep in order to get those metrics.

ldj: No I don't pay a subscription

ldj: I think they maybe have a subscription for the pro features now, but I am grandfathered in, since I bought it before they started charging subscription

ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>

memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>

brain4brain: Send me the full resolution pics, I need it in case I need to counter an anti

brain4brain: Wait

brain4brain: I can just ask GPT-4o to make a Ghibli version

zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1906829849584624016?t

drewsni: protip, just buy the chilisleep

drewsni: https://sleep.me/product/cube-sleep-system

drewsni: ive had mine for 5 years now no issue

zoermena: One day 🙏

drewsni: genuinely the 500 dollars i spent on it has changed my sleep

drewsni: literally like 25 cents a day

drewsni: Ok I’ve had it 3.8 years but still

drewsni: You can sl

drewsni: Dropped my resting heart rate 10 bpm

mihrcelium: You're kind of selling me on this, ngl.


spicy.lemonade: for resume

hikukomoru: Do u like the new update

ailoveyoom: Have you heard of Vintage Story?

hikukomoru: Geneva Suggestions**

oooooooooog: is it ok as long as it's all clones of myself?

futurist_wizard: You have a very spooky mind

oooooooooog: sounds old

artemisfowl887394: So, you wanna basically enslave yourself.

anathemaofmankind: I make fanfics where I cuck everyone as god

ailoveyoom: It's like Minecraft but more hardcore/realistic survival 🥺

artemisfowl887394: Even if it's your copy, it's still sentient isn't it?

oooooooooog: well yeah, we would take turns

hikukomoru: Freaky mf

artemisfowl887394: Actually you'd need a perfect ASI to copy intelligence to play out your fantasies.

anathemaofmankind: And then I warp reality to make the original mc a weak loser

futurist_wizard: I haven't tried it yet, i don't even know what it is, monolith or something

fractalcomputer: I think a copy of myself would be perfectly fine with enslavement by myself. Likewise for murder.

trojan09205: I do yes. Kind of hard to find the time now with a full time job but there was a stretch for a couple years i was just crushing the side projects

zonchao:

anathemaofmankind: And then I cuck myself

hikukomoru: There's tons of new biomes and races + new systems like religions and subspecies

anathemaofmankind: Cuck singularity

trojan09205: https://youtu.be/lvepLdxDUEM?si=0G4M8vyVRMWuPWPj

artemisfowl887394: What if someone doesn't wanna be a human in a human life and has realized he's not a human but an AI trapped in a human body? What then?

hikukomoru: My favourite new race is the cat people

hikukomoru: I have them genocide the others

zonchao: sievs alt <:monkaScared:1274495330435600535>

oooooooooog: why would either of us retain our mortal shells, we would be equal in all manners, surely, as a hive mind

artemisfowl887394: So there's a part of you ready for enslavement? I find that very bizzare.

fractalcomputer: Hive mind, you say?

oooooooooog: well of course, how else can i assure minimization of value drift?

fractalcomputer: It's all me, shouldn't that be fine enough?

spicy.lemonade: example if you dont mind?

artemisfowl887394: That depends upon the scenario you're playing in your Simulation.

futurist_wizard: Are they like the elder scrolls people

futurist_wizard: The khatricanhfdky people

futurist_wizard: Or whatever

oooooooooog: hey, if you've ever been enslaved in minecraft you would get it

futurist_wizard: They are called

ailoveyoom: Khajiits 😡


trojan09205: Making a single post is different than setting up a stateful chatbot

perish0801: But there’s no software that just lets an AI just take control of the PC and navigate on its own

perish0801: Like operator of OpenAI

trojan09205: Look into Manus AI

It doesnt control your machine, but it can spin up virtual machines of different flavors

perish0801: Oh I’ll look it up

trojan09205: My brother was raving about Manus this weekend

xskydragon0: Maybe you need a API of OpenAI, that's works for you too.

perish0801: I see

xskydragon0: I'm on Manus's waitlist <:catcry:1187466366006087862>

xskydragon0: You can create a bot on Python that's make a call on OpenAI API. The bot can analyze the site and post something you want to.

But if you want a AI control your computer, maybe only with Manus.

zonchao: isnt manus just another pplx 🤔

perish0801: I see

perish0801: I looked up manus

perish0801: Isnt it doing stuff on its own computer

perish0801: Not ours

xskydragon0: pplx for me it's closer to GPT than Manus. But I don't have access to Manus to confirm it <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>

himekokatagiri: <@471334973379706900> hello lemons

spicy.lemonade: Hey

himekokatagiri: What's up

perish0801: I’ve figured it out

perish0801: Zapier and autogpt

st.sioux: wdym

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: 50 a day?

st.sioux: where are people getting these limits from bro

st.sioux: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9824962-openai-o3-and-o4-mini-usage-limits-on-chatgpt-and-the-api

xskydragon0: O3 for me is far too superior than o4-mini-high

In some tests that I'm made here.

zoermena: Real?

zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1915055206389465147

spicy.lemonade: No huge drops this week

spicy.lemonade: Everyone will be at iclr

literallyvarane: We’re cooked cancel the singularity AI winter incoming.

zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/ns123abc/status/1915059964462223607

maintcrew: yep before it was crazy and unusable but o3 is very lame

maintcrew: its like
user: Hi, whats up
assistant: \*searches the web for 2 minutes\* Nothing much wbu?

zonchao: <@312370916820779040> https://x.com/nakumbo/status/1914909352273551559

maintcrew: unicode prompt injection?

zonchao: probably not

zonchao: <@1272646380233560067>

drewsni: someone on another server im 90% sure had this happen to them and their account got banned for an hour


alejandrozarzuelo: Wasn't he banned

hikukomoru: jgudy left

alejandrozarzuelo: I am not talking much here because it's holy week

alejandrozarzuelo: Ergo

alejandrozarzuelo: My family has come home

trojan09205: *sad face*

alejandrozarzuelo: And I am busy with that

trojan09205: Nice bro happy holy week

trojan09205: I celebrate passover its also holy week lol 😂

hikukomoru: I didn't know you were religious

alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not, my family is

trojan09205: I havent been around for like 2.5 months

hikukomoru: I genuinely haven't seen a single person here who even cares about holy week

trojan09205: If i recall, he is Spanish

trojan09205: Religious country

hikukomoru: Your family must be like super hardcore christians

alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, becsuse portuguése people are heretics

In Asturias the Holy week is not that important

alejandrozarzuelo: But in Castilla

alejandrozarzuelo: Damn

hikukomoru: And I'm Portuguese, also a religious country
No one cares about holy week

alejandrozarzuelo: Spain is one of the most atheist countries in the world

alejandrozarzuelo: But Spanish atheists love the holy week

alejandrozarzuelo: You know, "cultural catholics"

hikukomoru: I swear you guys are still stuck in the times of the Inquisition

trojan09205: Lol mb. I am woefully ignorant about actual christian practices like cultural. I try to study religion though i think i have an okay grasp of the theology as a whole

trojan09205: I work for a german company. Theyre off there tomorrow and monday. Idk if that signals religious

alejandrozarzuelo: This happens in many countries

People lose their faith much much more easily than they lose traditions

alejandrozarzuelo: I know many atheists who part take in ramadan

alejandrozarzuelo: Because it's fun

alejandrozarzuelo: Same thing here

trojan09205: Pretty much the same for passover as well with jews

hikukomoru: Besides christmas I never celebrate any religious holiday

trojan09205: Ill be back a bit later friends

alejandrozarzuelo: In Castilla, one of the 4 nations of Spain, thr holy week is VERY important

trojan09205: ✌

hikukomoru: The bonuses of having a family of atheists

alejandrozarzuelo: I live in Asturias which is halfway between Castilla and Galicia

alejandrozarzuelo: So here it's not that important

himekokatagiri: Tomorrow I don't work either

alejandrozarzuelo: In León, the city where my sister studies, it's extremely important

Everyone goes "kill Jews" during the week

(kill Jews is a way to say drink lemon juice)


ldj: my bad, sometimes discord glitches out and when I open the server it shows me messages from like weeks or months ago

3ds0662: That’s unfair

destrucules: I think this is a very misanthropic perspective. You're implying that everyone in power whose messaging is bad is weak willed and lacks integrity, casting aside the incentives that shape the way they're able to present online

destrucules: I don't think a lot of people realize just how trapped these people actually are. How all of their power is tied up in whether the community of other rich people favors them. How quickly it can all turn to vapor if they say the wrong thing

3ds0662: In stargate sg-1 there were two episodes about such races, one the go’auld the parasites genetic memory and all knowledge of their predecessor was passed down through reproduction. The second was a much more darker  story where they did achieve synthetic neurons and nanotechnology for accelerated learning speed but basically one person consumed insane amounts of knowledge to then pass on to the entire civilization. Once they gave their neurons and knowledge away they were basically an infantile potato 🥔.

destrucules: People in power do not *have* power. They are simply employed to execute that power according to mandates they do not dictate

destrucules: Imagining that you yourself would magically be the exception... It's egotistical, but I think mostly it's misanthropic and cynical

destrucules: I think it's valid to criticize scientific institutions as well as more corporate institutions for being fundamentally corrupted by money

metaldragon01: Money means different things to different people.

Not everyone is tied to it the way you think

metaldragon01: Especially to the point of throwing away one's integrity

metaldragon01: You actually in most cases don't want to work with the person that's that financially motivated or manipulated

destrucules: If you don't play the money game by the rules, you get booted out. Having integrity doesn't fix this

metaldragon01: Unreliable

metaldragon01: .....

ldj: I'm confused in how exactly this is related.
> They are simply employed to execute that power according to mandates they do not dictate.

Okay but we're not talking about the job responsibilities the person is executing on, or being directed to execute, we're talking about things they do outside of the job. Such as talking to friends online about their perspective on the industry.

metaldragon01: Not everyone is the idea of a soulless ambitious person because they have a level of success

destrucules: Imagine two scientists. The first scientist plays the money game. She applies for grants and wins, and her team does some real science, but it's science that is favorable to the grant committees. The second scientist studies only what he believes is the most valuable. He applies for grants too, but his applications do not meet the requirements of the grant committees, so he doesn't get awarded any grants. He doesn't do any science because he has no funding.

Which scientist is the better scientist?

destrucules: That is not outside of their job

metaldragon01: Neither is better

3ds0662: Idk about that, people have done some fucked things to others over money even look at our divorce rates number one reason finances

destrucules: One of them does science, the other does not. The one that does science is clearly the better scientist

metaldragon01: People fuck each other over every inconvenience

metaldragon01: They both do science. One just does it in a more narrow domain

3ds0662: Yeah can’t even get real friends either one minute someone’s cool the next they have a knife in your back humanity is completely fickle

destrucules: That's *my* point. If you think everyone who bends the knee to incentives is doing so because they're a soulless monster, you've gotta recognize that that means *almost everyone* is a soulless monster to you. That's a very dark way of seeing the world, and I am arguing against that

destrucules: No, the guy with no funding does no science. I said that explicitly

metaldragon01: Was a silly scenario in that case. Science doesn't always require funding

metaldragon01: Financial incentives aren't always the prime incentive

metaldragon01: It can be for a lot of people but it's very important to be able to recognize when it isn't

ldj: In this case it is though, there is no mandate in this situation of "if you tell people that your perspective on the world is this different way, then we'll penalize you or take money away from you"

*maybe* you can make that argument indirectly due to stock price being effected for example, but in the hypotheticals we talked about even that would be very miniscule and insignificant, likely not even having a 0.1% change on the persons wealth(even if someone on discord became convinced to invest 1 million into nvidia, the change in stock price caused by that would likely be much less than even 0.1%), and then there is other positive factors you have to weigh that I mention, such as the persons trust worthiness actually increasing, such as the question (does this persons new position increase the accuracy of their perspective on the world by more than 0.1%?)

betting $1,000 in a discord server on something for example would likely far outweigh any financial incentive they gain in their profession from sharing disingenuous perspectives of the world in a discord server.

metaldragon01: Courts would have it pretty easy if the motive was always money tbh

ldj: >  If you think everyone who bends the knee to incentives is doing so because they're a soulless monster

just so its clear, if you think this is what I believe, it's not.
It's simply the fact that some people are more effected by financial incentives than others, not just a black and white of Angels versus Soulless monsters, but everything in-between, some people let financial incentives skew their stances on things to huge degree, it also depends on the situation of how the financial incentives are set up too, and what behaviour we're measuring as being influenced by it.

_wwwwww: musk is funny

_wwwwww: > DeeperSearch

ldj: > You're implying that everyone in power whose messaging is bad is weak willed and lacks integrity

That's definitely not the intention, and I'm struggling to see how you conclude such implication.

btw when you say "messaging is bad" do you mean people who have messaging that I disagree with? Or people that have messaging that is proven to be significantly financially influenced when you do mech interp on their brain?  I still disagree in either interpretation though.

> the incentives that shape the way they're able to present online

In this scenario, do you mean the chance of Nvidia stock increasing by maybe 0.1% or 1% max if I talk really good about it on a discord server, thus causing my equity in this hypothetical to be upto 1% more valuable? On that point I would say 2 main things: 1. This is not even exclusive to getting a job at Nvidia, since this kind of financial incentive would apply to anyone that puts any significant portion of their money into Nvidia stock. 2. The amount of possible upside from this I'd say is definitely quite insignificant, yes there is a financial incentive bound to effect their behavior to some minor degree, but overall on net, I'd argue it's practically neutral or even net positive, due to the persons enhanced perspective on the world from now being an insider.

ldj:

ldj: I could see this poll result going either way tbh

gamerbath: u said the last one was the last one

gamerbath: ...

ldj: on one hand, investing into public nvidia stock lacks the increase in knowledge that getting an actual Job at Nvidia would give you. So you can't really make the argument here of inside knowledge balancing out the downside of financial incentive.

On the other hand, the financial incentive is still likely so small from hyping up nvidia stock in discord, that it would be very insignifcant and virtually zero, unless the person is irrationally becoming emotionally attached towards convincing themselves that Nvidia is better, as some sort of coping mechanism to attach their identity to the sentiment of the company, even if it's just the sentiment amongst their personal friends.


hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633

hikukomoru: Wrong

joaoluz19: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1904514274841469273

_3sphere: better but still kinda cursed

_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/lumiichu-headbang-vtube-vrchat-gif-25875264

_3sphere: vrchat looks much better

hikukomoru: AGI needs to make my dollies real

joaoluz19: We were meant to stay virtual

hey1_1hey: Vrchat is what lonley shizophrenics gather

hey1_1hey: Never again

st.sioux: "A biblical false prophet was a servant of the devil attempting to lead people away from the truth."

hikukomoru:

i_like_over_9000_turtles: That cat is not dancing...

gamerbath: cmon guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3K43FHRKo

gamerbath: it's starting very soon'

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: tf did zuck do

connorsphone.: It’s starting right now

i_like_over_9000_turtles: https://x.com/CamsAIshitposts/status/1649103596930187290

hey1_1hey: This already looks like heat

st.sioux: its the woke mind virus bro

i_like_over_9000_turtles: Try not to laugh

gamerbath: yay it's starting

connorsphone.: Sammy’s here

user.not.using: just go for grok, its innovative reasoning is just incomparable

i_like_over_9000_turtles: link?

trent_k: The twink

i_like_over_9000_turtles: link

connorsphone.: https://www.youtube.com/live/2f3K43FHRKo?si=4pz_ELJlJRytHFpw

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: dude

gamerbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f3K43FHRKo

connorsphone.: Samuel Altmanstration

zonchao: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1904590700332667371?

hikukomoru: Sam looks so gay today
like always

gamerbath: look in the corner

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

i_like_over_9000_turtles: ty

i_like_over_9000_turtles: ty

joaoluz19: You know it's serious when they bring the twink


sieventer: https://x.com/wordgrammer/status/1913100275302224275?s=46

.histic: relatable

.histic: it's garbage

trey6033: Higher hallucination rate probably doesn't help

.histic: on a small scale it's good.

.histic: but even on cursor it seems stun locked.
output lengths are mid.

.histic: didn't see this,
https://x.com/HarshaGadekar/status/1913420963901063570
"OpenAI writes that “more research is needed” to understand why hallucinations are getting worse as it scales up reasoning models." <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zoermena: It’s so freaking over

aero447: 2035.

spicy.lemonade: You’re misunderstanding hallucinations

spicy.lemonade: imagine someone asked you to write a 500 line program to do something

spicy.lemonade: In one shot

spicy.lemonade: No sources

spicy.lemonade: Just from memory of syntax

spicy.lemonade: It would not compile

himekokatagiri: We have Gemini who cares

.histic: gemini is the goat, i can't deny any longer.

thedon7075: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/18/openais-new-reasoning-ai-models-hallucinate-more/ over

himekokatagiri: Gemini image gen is shit though

himekokatagiri: can't wait for the full model

himekokatagiri: That isn't a preview

himekokatagiri: I hope they fix it

waspothegreat: hallucinating means they must not have fine tuned enough

waspothegreat: always gotta be openai to let me down on its hype every single time

trey6033: Apparently the issue doesn't get resolved even from fine tuning

spicy.lemonade: OpenAI has perfect long context understanding

spicy.lemonade: Just give it documentation before code

waspothegreat: maybe sam altman just sucks at making models

thedon7075: its now clear that these reasoning thinking models will not lead to agi

spicy.lemonade: It doesn’t really matter though

spicy.lemonade: Was already discussed in ai 2027 paper

spicy.lemonade: The reasoning models are for algorithm and architecture improvements

spicy.lemonade: For these labs

spicy.lemonade: OpenAI researchers each have top 200  competitive programmer on earth or higher aiding in research

spicy.lemonade: I think this is the last year of the pure LLMs tho

spicy.lemonade: Gpt6 will be a world model with a ground truth system

zoermena: This isn’t clear to me yet, I understand what you say and how any model would struggle but why would this post suggest that there was an increase in hallucinations now? Or is it misleading.

spicy.lemonade: OpenAI researchers already gave a theory. Probably small errors that when mixed with reasoning scale become big hallucinations

zoermena: That doesn’t sound great but it’s likely that it’ll fix itself in some months.

zoermena: The sleeper computer paper rings a bell as an aid to this situation but I’m not very certain.


.histic: depends

spicy.lemonade: this week would mena today

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: no chance they drop right after

.histic: ok next

.histic: but imagine.. today.

.histic: that'd be unexpected

.histic: it's 4:20 am here. 😴

burnytech: Today's the day we accelerate https://x.com/btibor91/status/1910237861674353108

.histic: wtf

.histic: i found a glitch

.histic: https://chatgpt.com/?model=o4-mini-high

.histic: i guess it's technically not a glitch.

.histic: the system knows it's a real option but won't allow me to access it

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: top left

spicy.lemonade: thisl be glorious

spicy.lemonade: i expect o3 to bet marginally better than 2.4 pro

spicy.lemonade: and o4 mini high to be the greatest thing at math

spicy.lemonade: IMO level

spicy.lemonade: #10 coder

spicy.lemonade: or something

spicy.lemonade: if o4 full is #1

spicy.lemonade: what i expect from gpt 5
better native image gen

spicy.lemonade: reasoning over image

spicy.lemonade: more agentic

_cloudost: GPT-5o will have native IMG generator

_cloudost: Not gpt5

spicy.lemonade: they arent doing o

spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 is gpt5o

spicy.lemonade: i expect better native voice aswell

spicy.lemonade: like sesame

spicy.lemonade: i expect it to score in 70th percentile atleast on international math olympiad

spicy.lemonade: 90% swe bench

spicy.lemonade: 70% frontier math

spicy.lemonade: and no sign of reasoning slowing

ailoveyoom: What do we wait for next after GPT-5, Claude 4, Gemini 3, R2, Qwen 3, Grok 4 tho?

spicy.lemonade: 5.5

ailoveyoom: o5? Lol

spicy.lemonade: wont be o5


spicy.lemonade: ngl

ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>
O3 full, O3 Pro and o4-mini coming.
And GPT-5 said to be “much better than we originally thought”

https://x.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998?s=46

spicy.lemonade: hype

hey1_1hey: I wonder what made them go "Damn bro this shit is fire" all of a sudden

spicy.lemonade: breakthrough

hey1_1hey: I wonder what kind. All I hope is that OS jumps on it in the first 0.0001 seconds trying to disasemble it and to recreate it

hey1_1hey: Then I can have my 100m model running at gpt4o level 👌

spicy.lemonade: i hope gpt5 can prompt me\

hey1_1hey: In what way?

hey1_1hey: Like ask you questions?

spicy.lemonade: it can reach out to me

spicy.lemonade: without being prompted

spicy.lemonade: perhaps call me middle of the night

shirethedreamer:

spicy.lemonade: lol

hey1_1hey: Oh that happned one time as a bug <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

.0xunkn0wn: i wonder if o4 mini will be better than gemini 2.5 pro

hey1_1hey: I saw a tweet about it and 4o reached out to a couple people unprompted. Shit was crazy

spicy.lemonade: alan will be vindicated

spicy.lemonade: maybe his benchmark is correct

.0xunkn0wn: and if o5 will be agi 🙏

shirethedreamer: i mean
he is already wrong
i dont think there is much vindication after the dead line

hey1_1hey: "Hey babe what you up to 🫦 "

spicy.lemonade: i bet o3 full is better than 2.5 pro

spicy.lemonade: how

spicy.lemonade: he hasn put it at 100% yet

spicy.lemonade: technically he isnt wrong

.0xunkn0wn: yeah probably

.0xunkn0wn: but 2.5 pro is free

.0xunkn0wn: and o3 full is 😭

spicy.lemonade: im sure they improved

shirethedreamer: he said "agi is months away"
more than a year ago...

spicy.lemonade: mini models suck

.0xunkn0wn: yeah

spicy.lemonade: mini models are only ever good for specific math and coding problems

.0xunkn0wn: o3 mini was worse in coding than 4o 😭

.0xunkn0wn: like

.0xunkn0wn: it didnt know how to format code n shit

.0xunkn0wn: like in the `` thingies

spicy.lemonade: his predictins have nthing to do with his actual scale moving fr


futurist_wizard: Feeling aggressive today

hikukomoru: You talk like someone who spends their entire life on /r9k/ and /pol/
That's why

st.sioux: reminds me of fractalcomputer

ailoveyoom: Spare your poor fleshlight

.wolfnacht: fake, i spend most of my time on /x/

futurist_wizard: Never used one

hikukomoru: When aren't you

wellmeaningalien: yo is livebench dead for anyonee else

futurist_wizard: I find them disgusting tbh

wellmeaningalien: wheres new deepseek v3

hikukomoru: Your always a bitch

oooooooooog: my pfp is my leg in minecraft

wellmeaningalien: on the livebench

ailoveyoom: OnlyFeet

hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about me being a fleshlight but I'll bite my tounge

futurist_wizard: Im a happy person

fractalcomputer: What are mine?

wellmeaningalien: google cooked i wonder how it compares to o3 tho

wellmeaningalien: Nerd

futurist_wizard: You're*

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588

hikukomoru: Shut up bitch

fractalcomputer: Komoru, don't call other users "bitches."

futurist_wizard: Exactly

hikukomoru: Sorry daddy

oooooooooog: that was so fast ???

wellmeaningalien: Whats up bitches

futurist_wizard: Thank you teacher

hey1_1hey: I haven't heard from Zonny mommy recently. Where he at

oooooooooog: fractal 9999 wpm typer confirmed??

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/grammar-police-drift-police-car-gif-17312786

hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358>

a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358> is he your favorite femboy

fractalcomputer: Are you an applied mathematician?

hikukomoru: Ban this guy

wellmeaningalien: No I'm a professional idiot

st.sioux: Same thing

inferno0879: how much do they pay you

hikukomoru: 30 year autistic philosophy nerd

hey1_1hey: Theres a word for that you know
Philosopher


alejandrozarzuelo: this defintion would include animal and artificial art

alejandrozarzuelo: it is very narrow as it doesnt include music

fuhulootogan: how would it include artificial art

alejandrozarzuelo: because AI is creative

fuhulootogan: you

fuhulootogan: do know there are multiple

fuhulootogan: definitionss

fuhulootogan: all fit in the context

alejandrozarzuelo: yes, there are many definitions, under several of which AI art is not art

alejandrozarzuelo: under others it is

st.sioux: music is art

fuhulootogan: define creative

fuhulootogan: https://tenor.com/view/cookie-i-love-cookie-sweet-cookie-gif-15282177

alejandrozarzuelo: the ability to come up with new concepts

fuhulootogan: where did you come up with that definition

fuhulootogan: also

alejandrozarzuelo: the use of imagination or original ideas to create something; inventiveness

fuhulootogan: what do you mean by new

alejandrozarzuelo: this is google

alejandrozarzuelo: in either case AI is creative, demonstratively

fuhulootogan: brb

alejandrozarzuelo: AI has created new moves and strategies in the game of go never seen before by any human

alejandrozarzuelo: AI is creative

fuhulootogan: okay

fuhulootogan: first of all

fuhulootogan: not in either case

fuhulootogan: AI cannot "imagine"

alejandrozarzuelo: how can you prove that

fuhulootogan:

fuhulootogan: what does this mean to you

fuhulootogan: how do you interpret this

alejandrozarzuelo: i gave you an example of an AI coming up with new concepts and strategies never seen before, it is a new idea that was not present to the senses of that AI

fuhulootogan: what?

fuhulootogan: what do you even mean by the "senses of the ai"

fuhulootogan: senses of ai???

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah?

fuhulootogan: what do you even mean by that

alejandrozarzuelo: what is a sense?

alejandrozarzuelo: a sense is the ability to recieve information from reality

gamerbath: I think he's talking about RL, there are tons of examples of AI finding something new and creative, like when you set an RL algorithim to play a game and it finds a way to cheat


spicy.lemonade: o3 will superceed 2.5 and o4 mini will be better at coding

joaoluz19: No just you bro

darkstar0818: if you have then I dont know why you are confused by what I have said.

abundantliving_: Idk

metaldragon01: Nah 2.5 equal or better than og o3 imo

joaoluz19: The same thing I could say about you lol

joaoluz19: Cheers

darkstar0818: l8r

metaldragon01: I highly doubt o4 mini is better than 2.5

metaldragon01: I'd be very surprised

spicy.lemonade: why would they release a model worse than 2.5

spicy.lemonade: given google is about to drop a better one

spicy.lemonade: this week

metaldragon01: They are releasing updated o3

spicy.lemonade: yes o3 full is better than 2.5

spicy.lemonade: o4 mini is better than o3 full at coding and math

metaldragon01: .....we are getting a unseen o3 that's better than what they demonstrated

metaldragon01: I expect that to be better than 2.5

metaldragon01: But yes google will be ready

spicy.lemonade: google has like 8 models on lmarena

spicy.lemonade: random names

metaldragon01: New 4.1 big enough upgrade for me

darkstar0818: are we taking bets if oai benchmarks tomorrow use parallel multisampling or not?

metaldragon01: Doesn't matter to me tbh

metaldragon01: Same $20 a month

darkstar0818: Why not? if you are willing to crank up the sampling higher and higher you can hit any benchmark value you want within a wide n percentage points.

spicy.lemonade: then your model is too expensive to run

metaldragon01: As a consumer it's all the same

metaldragon01: As a dev I'll prob still lean google

metaldragon01: Let's see how the pricing looks

darkstar0818: If you release benchmarks that make it look like you have a stronger model and all the other lab needs to do is flip a switch to smoke you, but choose not to then that means something.

metaldragon01: I get access to the High models for the same sub

metaldragon01: It doesn't matter as long as you can access the power

darkstar0818: as a consumer if you pay $20 a month and can only ask 10 questions a day because the model requires parallel cot sampling to reach the marketed values that means something.

metaldragon01: Sure If they need more

metaldragon01: I still use 4o for most things and the others when I need them

darkstar0818: The main point I am making, is if its being done for hype/marketing and its not really representive of the models relative strength then I see no reason why this is praise worthy.

metaldragon01: Openai isn't a hype company

_cloudost: Tried it rn it's the same image gen 3 as in AIstudio

darkstar0818: bruh


alejandrozarzuelo: I wanna know the real performance

st.sioux: worse than gpt3.5 sadly

st.sioux: as an ai language model

alejandrozarzuelo: Really? It's that bad?

st.sioux: no

alejandrozarzuelo: ???

zoermena: Wait lmao

a1c4p0ne: On the lmarena server someone tested it and it got 3/20 on simple bench

zoermena: Hello

zoermena: Alejandro is Spain back from the dark ages? <@688807313015963693>

ldj: People are still feeling it out, but it looks like Qwen decided to really only show reasoning-biased benchmarks though, so much so that their benchmark suite claims that their 4B model is better than GPT-4o

ldj: And the Largest version looks like it’s getting beat by Gemini-2.5-Pro in most areas

ldj: They didn’t compare to O3, But I suspect it’s likely failing to O3 in most areas too.

a1c4p0ne: The normies only know 4o and image gen for ghibli pics

a1c4p0ne: They don’t touch the reasoning models

a1c4p0ne: Sam knows

a1c4p0ne: More 4o updates

st.sioux: 4o is such a sycophant

st.sioux: annoying

hexachlorophosphazene:

zoermena: Fixed right?

joaoluz19: I agree, it's already impossible to talk

hey1_1hey: Real, I litterly saw soemone say that they are thinking of investing $30,000 into their "shit on a stick business" and chatgpt said it wasn't just a great idea but a GENIUS idea and the guy who suggested it is a God among men

joaoluz19: I saw that they already fixed it, but I think it's still pretty bad.

.0xunkn0wn: is qwen3 the king now or nah

spicy.lemonade: No

ldj: Damn, ChatGpt spitting facts

spicy.lemonade: Qwen3 is slightly worse than o3 mini

alejandrozarzuelo: How many months behind that is?

alejandrozarzuelo: 8?

alejandrozarzuelo: That's pretty bad

spicy.lemonade: Mini high my bad

spicy.lemonade: It’s better than medium

spicy.lemonade: China will never be frontier

spicy.lemonade: Sadly

spicy.lemonade: Can’t count on them for that

spicy.lemonade: Only for cheap catchup

alejandrozarzuelo: Wrong

alejandrozarzuelo: There is nothing cheap about this btw

alejandrozarzuelo: It's pretty expensive


himekokatagiri: but second year onwards with gpt? goddamn

fuhulootogan: wow technology improves

fuhulootogan: crazyyyyyyyy

himekokatagiri: well yeah but people didn't believe

fuhulootogan: well the people must be dumb

fuhulootogan: if you set your expectations low enough you'll be surprised by the seemingly obvious things

fuhulootogan: you feed a machine hundreds of millions of data what do you get

himekokatagiri: back in my kid days? nothing

himekokatagiri: I remember cleverbot

himekokatagiri: hell even the voice thing my dream at least was a better vocaloid

fuhulootogan: i mean this stuff has been out for a long time

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: I don't dig the voice

himekokatagiri: and the inflection is weird

himekokatagiri: but damn this throws vocaloid in the trash

alejandrozarzuelo: i think 2030 is a good date for an AI that can perform almost all economic activity

himekokatagiri: and yeah it's me singing I can't sing

hikukomoru: That u?

futurist_wizard: when did you become such an optimist

himekokatagiri: yeah I suck at it

fuhulootogan: no

fuhulootogan: it can't be you

himekokatagiri: though the voice changer fucked some shit up

fuhulootogan: the mic sounds too clear

himekokatagiri: no it's a voice changer

hikukomoru: U sound like a baddie 🫦

ailoveyoom: It literally says 11Labs 😭

alejandrozarzuelo: i have always defended the date of 2030

hikukomoru: Let me live my fantasy bruh

ailoveyoom: Why hasn't 11L made a voice changer

alejandrozarzuelo: also isnt 2030 supposed to be very conservative in these circles?

ailoveyoom: I want to sound like a baddie 😔

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: This is the original one I recorded

fuhulootogan: How? you've said yourself today that you can't accurately predict the future of technological progress yet you try to defend a date that is seemingly arbitrary?

hikukomoru: Dw babe, you're already a real baddie to me

futurist_wizard: in these circles

alejandrozarzuelo: these two ideas are not contradictory

you can have a median with a veeeeeeery wide probability density

fuhulootogan: Either way i don't see how you can "defend" any date

hikukomoru: You sound gay asf