hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

hikukomoru: You can't 💔
That's my OC

_3sphere: Dreaming about random nonsense feels better than ruminating awake ngl

maintcrew: crazy how theres 2 conversations going on in parallel one about this and one about the virtues of being cuck wing or redneck wing

hikukomoru: You don't think I act like a hello kitty girl? 🥀

hikukomoru: ts pmo icl 💔

maintcrew: ts pmo icl 💔

_3sphere: I don't have a specific term for people like you

futurist_wizard: Uh yeah everyone is going to signal they are virtuous, how many times do you hear the right say 'we are the good guys fighting against evil' its all signalling how virtuous they are

maintcrew: are you a fdvr enjoyer

hikukomoru: Autistic 🫃

_3sphere: Fair

anathemaofmankind: Why can't people just be honest and start acting true to themselves

anathemaofmankind: Gotta lie about it and pretend its good

_3sphere: What *is* the "real" self though

spicy.lemonade: If I post this on an art discord will they tell it’s ai?

anathemaofmankind: If you are racist, just say you are racist

hikukomoru: I am racist

spicy.lemonade: Let’s see how many people I convince

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/renault-car-sports-car-gif-2473454790214825457

anathemaofmankind: Instead of posting statistics of crime and then trying to be subtle

spacetimetsunami: Yep. “MAGA” is literally a virtue signal. They do it more than anyone I think.

_3sphere: To the racist, "racist" probably seems unfairly simple and negative

ailoveyoom: What does this mean

futurist_wizard: Cursed

hikukomoru: icl ts pmo sm n sb rn ngl, r u srsly srs n fr rn vro? Smh lol atp js go 💔... b fr vro, idek nm, brb gng gtg atm lmao, bt ts pmo 2 js lmk lol onb fr, ac nvm b wt istg ts vro keys🙏💔 ts pmo

wellmeaningalien: this looks like a transgender cartoon nerd self insert twitter artist's OC

spicy.lemonade: That was the goal

anathemaofmankind: Depends on the type of racism

spicy.lemonade: its perfect

wellmeaningalien: ok theyll probably tell cause of the plant behind him here

alejandrozarzuelo: you can tell someone's ideology bu how they present themselves, that is literally virtue signaling

futurist_wizard: Pms is something girls do for fun or something

spicy.lemonade: whats wrong?

wellmeaningalien: uve done a good job at making it look like a lib artstyle

anathemaofmankind: Use the artstyle from that popular glasses girl or something

spicy.lemonade: i stole it

spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

wellmeaningalien:

spicy.lemonade: style copied


fractalcomputer: Democracy is indeed a disease that will kill human societies if push comes to shove with climate change.

zonchao: this is dumb and way too much work, just have a couple extroverted friends you will know dozens of people instantly

hey1_1hey: I used to have unbeleacible social anxiety from like 13-17 ish and I straight up couldnt even talk to people at the till because I would blush and get embarrsed for no reason. Then I just kinda stopped caring and that worked out well

futurist_wizard: I work from home

hey1_1hey: I could never, I hate working from home

futurist_wizard: Because of this making friends is a challenging process that i actually have to go out of my way to achieve

hey1_1hey: I mean in fairness "work from home" extends to me being forced to do school work at home during covid

futurist_wizard: Technically i could do it wherever

hey1_1hey: I just straight up dont have the disipline to sit down and do work. I'll either sit down last miniute for 6 hours and do it or not do it at all

hey1_1hey: I know that once I get going you wont be able to pry me away from my computer with an iron bar but its the getting started part

futurist_wizard: The work i do requires many hours

hey1_1hey: What work do you do?

futurist_wizard: I will not disclose

hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>

futurist_wizard: I am anonymous

zonchao: he does OF

futurist_wizard:

hey1_1hey: Totattly not suspicouse and almost defintly not a drug dealer, kingpin, etc etc

futurist_wizard: I have thought about doing OF before

zoermena: Haven’t we all?

futurist_wizard: No

alejandrozarzuelo: I meant that mushroom guys tend to be very sociable and talk with other mushroomers on hunts

futurist_wizard: Idk

hey1_1hey: I would but petite femboys are not hard to come across

futurist_wizard: Yeah i see them everywhere..

zoermena: I disagree, I won’t disclose my reasoning

hey1_1hey: Oh really? Uusally the sterotype I have heard is "omg you're autsitc"

hey1_1hey: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>

hey1_1hey: You two need to start explaing your self

futurist_wizard: In Mexico i imagine you wouldn't find any

hey1_1hey: Come to the UK and they are a dime a dozen if you get to know litterly anyone.

zoermena: Have we met before?

futurist_wizard: Futurist guy

hey1_1hey: Are you having a personality crisis

futurist_wizard: Bruh i ain't ever seen one

futurist_wizard: In my entire life

hey1_1hey: Just not in public, because you'll be shot

hey1_1hey: Or more likley stabbed

futurist_wizard: The futurist label i am retiring

hey1_1hey: How come?


spicy.lemonade: hes much more conservative

spicy.lemonade: with this prediction

spicy.lemonade: lmao

spicy.lemonade: he learned his lesson with AGI countdown

spicy.lemonade: butr holy shit

spicy.lemonade: WHAT

spicy.lemonade: FTL

spicy.lemonade: that shit is not hiting 100%

brain4brain: Be blindelessly optimistic and you’ll know it’s possible

spicy.lemonade: yeah

spicy.lemonade: wait

spicy.lemonade: actually

spicy.lemonade: alans predictions back then

spicy.lemonade: for agi

spicy.lemonade: were also seen as crazy

spicy.lemonade: as this

spicy.lemonade: hm

spicy.lemonade: ok

spicy.lemonade: his conservative prediction turned out to be optimistic

brain4brain: Why is bro using the hm and ok token like DeepSeek CoT 😭🙏

spicy.lemonade: my bad chat😭

brain4brain: My optimistic progress bar turns out to be pessimistic (5%)

brain4brain: I believe in curve line on a graph

spicy.lemonade: bro what is 1000 iq

spicy.lemonade: is that even measurable

spicy.lemonade: like a 40 point dif in iq is already crazy

fractalcomputer: Obviously not.

spicy.lemonade: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2503.23758

spicy.lemonade: FIRST PAPER

spicy.lemonade: WHERE AI AIDS IN MATH PROOF

spicy.lemonade: LFG

spicy.lemonade: FIRST MAJOR ONE

gamerbath: you are assuming we know enough about the laws of physics to deduce FTL travel is impossible, but we don't know everything and ASI will teach us that soon enough

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: HUGE

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: WTF

gamerbath: what the hell is a frustrated pot??

spicy.lemonade: this is so crazy bro

spicy.lemonade: AI just did math research


.histic:

anathemaofmankind: I hope they suffer more

oooooooooog: i would allow you to experience maximal suffering eternity for +0.0001% chance of aligned superintelligence

spacetimetsunami: There is a 100% chance of aligned superintelligence

oooooooooog: there isn't a 100% chance of anything

.histic: https://x.com/noodles_and_tea/status/1905485234688459010
artists are pretentious

oooooooooog: this is a really pretentious thing to say

spacetimetsunami: There is a 100% chance that you take a shit in the next week

.histic: got 100k+ likes on twitter lol

oooooooooog: i can't believe this ar*ist said that

.histic: lotta anti-ai people there

oooooooooog: not if i were to blow my brains out, or die in any other way, for that matter

oooooooooog: or if a meteor hits the earth

oooooooooog: or a cosmic ray vaporizes me

oooooooooog: or i experience massive organ failure, preventing the realse of shit from my bowels

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/you-ok-gif-26517102

oooooooooog: i was merely demonstrating that the chance of me taking a shit in the next week is not 100%

.histic: dying by a blocked anal sphincter is the worst way to go out

oooooooooog: many-a hampster have had such a fate

brain4brain: It looks worst than an AI one 😂✌

oooooooooog: at least its not rediculously noisy to the point of being painful to look at, like every 4o generation in existence

spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

zonchao: https://x.com/ZachWarunek/status/1905705266748051878? 💀💀💀💀

spacetimetsunami: I really just want things to accelerate as much as possible guys. When superintelligence.

oooooooooog: that wouldn't make it undervalued, then

oooooooooog: 2025

destrucules: Now

spacetimetsunami: No chance no wayyyy

spacetimetsunami: Nope

destrucules: We're already there

.histic: 2365

destrucules: What is the superscore of the foremost human experts in the world on MMLU-Pro? How about GPQA Diamond?

oooooooooog: 2036, heat death of the universe

.histic: me

destrucules: How well do professional mathematicians do on AIME? How about MATH?

.histic: why are you asking these questions. we don't know shit.

spacetimetsunami: I suppose then you’re thinking that the way that’s implemented at large is just more autonomy and agency

oooooooooog: ASI isn't a benchmark lmao, it's a capability. and RN, AI can't do jack shit besides code and write art, in terms of capability, it's worthless compared to even a completely braindead human.

destrucules: Because I have the answers

spacetimetsunami: I get where you’re coming from but I would disagree


hikukomoru: I am sad

zonchao: no 2.5 pro posts on my tl

wellmeaningalien:

zonchao: openai has done it once again

zoermena: Sad

zonchao: 💀💀💀💀

wellmeaningalien: stole the thundar pichai

zonchao: 😭😭😭

hikukomoru: I want to bury my head in that sand

ailoveyoom: Something else gon flow (it's not spice) 😤

hey1_1hey: The dehydration is getting to me 🥵

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-19843706

zoermena: Do you have 4o gen

wellmeaningalien: drink cum

wellmeaningalien: this is what image gen is for

hey1_1hey: Sadly not

hikukomoru: Why don't we have 4o image gen yet

zoermena: Don’t threaten me with a good time

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: I made a promise with SamA aswell that if I got into a maid outfit I would be able to access it first

hey1_1hey: I really dont like how realistic the mouth is

zonchao: https://x.com/thekitze/status/1904839092958814235?

wellmeaningalien: this isnt a remix btw gpt 4o knew how to makke a wojak and a pepe like that

_cloudost: and Gemini 2.5 is really good at writing, I had never interacted with such an AI thats so creative

wellmeaningalien: DID GPT 4O ACTUALLY MAKE THAT

wellmeaningalien: i notice 4o is very goated for the south park style

wellmeaningalien: 👏 its amazesauce 👏

zonchao: it is goated at everything

hikukomoru: Have u tried 2.5 ERP

zonchao: from what I can see

wellmeaningalien: indeed because its not retarded

wellmeaningalien: leap beyond everything else

hey1_1hey: Does it pass saxems?

hikukomoru: I can't use it yet because they still haven't added the model to SillyTavern

_cloudost: nope, its not allowed

hey1_1hey: I wonder if 4o can combine styles? Like pixel art, realistic, abstract etc etc all in the same image

_3sphere: Komoru is a LLM gooner 🤯

.histic: <@430269783112548362> gpt4o did it well

wellmeaningalien: man imagine being a luddite right now meanwhile accelerationist people are enjoying all this cool ai shit

wellmeaningalien: nice


hey1_1hey: "24 hours". Thats not sleep deprevation?

oooooooooog: it's not really that much, at least

oooooooooog: not enough to hallucinate or get delirious, thats for sure

hey1_1hey: Of course chatgpt releasess the literal nanosecond I graduate high school

hey1_1hey: I gotta get your ass on the Bryan Johnson pipe line

.wolfnacht: everyone's mind wired a bit differently

hey1_1hey: He would seethe hearing you say that

spicy.lemonade: Bro think, nvidia still has 3 more gens

spicy.lemonade: Of gpu

spicy.lemonade: Blackwell will most likely be the gpu of agi

spicy.lemonade: Rubin and Feynman def for asi

st.sioux: gpt3.5 released like 3-4 months before i graduated college it sucks lol

hikukomoru: When I skip sleep I'm still fine after not sleeping for a day

futurist_wizard: No i didn't even get it till today

oooooooooog: yeah, as long as u don't accidentally take a nap it's fine in my experience

futurist_wizard: I never skip sleep

hey1_1hey: Thats crazy, If I get any less than 6 hours I will be a literal lobotimite for the rest of the day

hey1_1hey: Absolutly no critical thinking skills

hey1_1hey: No memory either

.wolfnacht: not even that, LLMs would have made life easier to make me understand every concept....unfortunately i delved into depression in high-school and had to downgrade from medical to straight humanities bcz i wasn't able to keep up.

hikukomoru: That's why it doesn't affect me, I am already retarded

futurist_wizard: Truth

hikukomoru: Most nights I sleep 4-6 hours

futurist_wizard: Thats very low

.wolfnacht: yeah, it sucks.

oooooooooog: thats a normal amount guys

hikukomoru: Really
I feel fine

hey1_1hey: People really downplay LLMs on how good they are at explaining things I think. You litterly have a teacher that has read 60 million books and has infinite paitence and will sit there and listen to you ask stupid questions

futurist_wizard:

.wolfnacht: and some nights, sleeps are literally 12 hr long which gives terrible headaches

hey1_1hey: Talk about being an insomniac

hikukomoru: I feel worse when I sleep more than 8 hours

hey1_1hey: You aint making it to LEV with that sleep shcedule Komoru

futurist_wizard: Ghoul

oooooooooog: LEV 2025

hikukomoru: Like sleeping 8+ hours makes me super tired and braindead the rest of the day

hey1_1hey: Would, next question

.wolfnacht: 100%

hikukomoru: Me on the right

hey1_1hey: And I thought I was optimistic


wellmeaningalien: But time will tell how right mr Hypeman is

wellmeaningalien: (i mean to be fair o3-mini is pretty great)

ailoveyoom: Maybe I'm looking too deep into it, but Sama said 'feature' and not 'model'

wellmeaningalien: Could have something to do with Quasar Alpha?

wellmeaningalien: Lol shut up

wellmeaningalien: Literally midnight in san francisco time they added references to o4-mini and o3 into ChatGPT

wellmeaningalien:

anathemaofmankind: It's gonna be 10% better than o3 mini

anathemaofmankind: And then r/singularity will clap

spicy.lemonade: Likeley won’t be

spicy.lemonade: When have we seen a 10% jump for reasoning

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: Always been more

spicy.lemonade: O1 to o3 is way more than 10%

futurist_wizard: We don't have o3

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/archiplex-nerd-emoji-archi-nerd-ackshually-gif-6336651164979961998

spicy.lemonade: O1 mini to o3 mini is way more

spicy.lemonade: Comparison

spicy.lemonade: Compare o1 mini to o3 mini

spicy.lemonade: Way more than 10 percent

spicy.lemonade: The jump is similar in scale from o1 to o3

anathemaofmankind: What do you think the benchmarks will be then?

spicy.lemonade: O3 mini to o4 mini will be niceee

futurist_wizard: Until we actually see some use case of o3 or consumer model it doesn't even exist

hikukomoru: You don't get it bro we're in the AI winter we're about to hit a wall any moment now

spicy.lemonade: But bit better than 2.5 pro across the board

wellmeaningalien: AI winter be like Nothing happened this week

wellmeaningalien: 🙄

ailoveyoom: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

spicy.lemonade: Hm

spicy.lemonade: What if it’s not o3 or o4

st.sioux: he couldnt sleep because he was too busy doing twink enhancement drugs

spicy.lemonade: What if it’s a new base

spicy.lemonade: Like quasar alpha

precariousworlds.: not to toot my own horn but i've created two polls in <#1227814510429995049> that I would be interested in seeing everyone's answers to

metaldragon01: https://www.theverge.com/news/646458/openai-gpt-4-1-ai-model

anathemaofmankind: I would prefer if it was that one model he tweeted for creative writing

wellmeaningalien: <:D_sob:1196229937154244619> what

anathemaofmankind: Bro literally a few seconds

spicy.lemonade: 4.1


wellmeaningalien: gonna try it myself

himekokatagiri: when am I gonna be able to make hardcore games

himekokatagiri: something like world of horror

.wolfnacht: only if u managed to survive post 2030

wellmeaningalien: goated it works great

wellmeaningalien: ignore the music lol

spicy.lemonade: W

wellmeaningalien: one shot

spicy.lemonade: tell the ducks to behave like boids

wellmeaningalien: just video no specific instruction

spicy.lemonade: itl be better

spicy.lemonade: yeah

wellmeaningalien: i should also tell it to make the arena a circle

spicy.lemonade:

wellmeaningalien: lets see how it deals with this

wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro really is the goat huh

wellmeaningalien: expert in your pocket, good at everything, SWEs are gonna be cooked

wellmeaningalien: it works but holy shit its hard

spicy.lemonade:

wellmeaningalien: 💀

wellmeaningalien: mine behaves weird

spicy.lemonade: this took 3 iterations

spicy.lemonade: 1st was make game

spicy.lemonade: 2nd behave like boids

spicy.lemonade: 3rd add walls

spicy.lemonade: because they were going in and out like how some snake games do

spicy.lemonade: and it was too hard lol

.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jx6lr4/unreleased_google_model_dragontail_crushes_gemini/
damn, Google is ahead of their own model already?

wellmeaningalien: only in 8 minutes did i beat it

wellmeaningalien: wtf those gpus catching up to google

hikukomoru: Christ google is fucking crushing it

.histic: 💀 google is becoming a monster.
they were far behind a year ago, now they seem to be making frontier models quickly.

hikukomoru: Well, it was inevitable I suppose
They have their TPUs, tons of compute, and the best researchers

hikukomoru: That said, SWEs are soooo cooked

hikukomoru: Unironically over

wellmeaningalien: yeah there's no denying

wellmeaningalien: SWEs and many many many other professions

wellmeaningalien: people who still wanna do data entry in 2025 lmao

hikukomoru: Crazy how in fiction blue collars are always the ones that are replaced first
But in reality it's white collars that are getting automated now

wellmeaningalien: i guess so


trojan09205: Cool bro that is also a sort of math tbh

zoermena: In a way i suppose

fractalcomputer: Math is about yoga.

trojan09205: Money = math no?

joaoluz19: Dario too

zoermena: I guess it’s just in a whole other level of easy

trojan09205: Idk bro financial systems are complicated af

trojan09205: Id wager that most people here dont comprehend much of that

trojan09205: <@312370916820779040> it was you who recommended against the sapolsky book right?

ldj: yep

trojan09205: Im really enjoying it bro

ldj: ok

ldj: I didn't say you wouldn't enjoy it

ldj: the fact that you're enjoying it is in-fact the problem of why you should avoid it the most

ldj: <:berk:1046369631234949162>

trojan09205: Mostly because i dont know much about neuroscience and i find it interesting

trojan09205: I find his writing style really digestible

ldj: exactly <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>

trojan09205: Wat am i missing lmao

ldj: karl marx and stalin also had quite digestible writings lol

hikukomoru: Don't erase me pls

trojan09205: But i dont remember exactly what ur concern was. It was that it suggests against free will or something

sarik0497: Sapolsky...why does that name ring a bell...

ldj: no not that book in particular, it's that framings and conclusions that he leads to reader into is often deceptive, especially with his writings in regards to free will, and the average person wouldn't realize how flawed and incorrect it is until they're woken up by writings of the other viewpoint.
But the fact that the misframing of narratives and evidence along the way is written so elegantly is what makes it especially worth avoiding.

ldj: I don't know for sure how much this pertains to the book you're reading, but I'd be surprised if that behaviour of sapolsky doesn't leak into his other types of writings too.

ldj: Just as I'd expect a book about biology made by Hitler or Karl Marx to probably have some misframings and deception in it's narrative too.

trojan09205: Tbh i had never heard of him before

This particular book Behave is mostly just about neuroscience and animal and human behaviors. It seems to be to be pretty fair and nuanced and avoiding hot takes tbh

trojan09205: Bro can you send me some content that you know of from him which is concerning to you

trojan09205: Him and I have a very similar upbringing/background coming from orthodox judaism to science so idk i guess i understand some of his writing styles and humor

ldj: His writing style and humour is elegant to most people, not just you <:berk:1046369631234949162>

trojan09205: Ill give an example

ldj: You would have to read his book on free will then, and then spend time reading the literature of the opposing view points.

ldj: Or just see the world view of some of his strong followers lol.

trojan09205:

trojan09205: Yeah i would like to see that

ldj: actually I remember some of this book now <:e_think:871265859199459358>

ldj: this book is like an initiation ritual to get people to take his free will book more seriously <:berk:1046369631234949162>

trojan09205: Lmao 🤣

trojan09205: Now you peaked my interest lol

ldj: Here I can try and breakdown more specifically what I mean though.


fractalcomputer: Confrere could have done as well.

alejandrozarzuelo: i love the word companion btw

"the person you share bread with" such a lovely ethymology

fractalcomputer: Perhaps so.

drewsni: lol meta raised capex by another 10 billion for this year so much for that ai bubble pop.

fractalcomputer: I find the global pervasiveness of Anglophonism rather dull. People arrive at the need to learn English only through "inbred" reasoning.

joaoluz19: Ah lol, I see.

joaoluz19: Good one

futurist_wizard: I imagine the overall percentages might be lower but the difference between the countries changes very little

ldj: The winter:

drewsni:

drewsni: beginning of a trend

drewsni: it might be over for SWEs

.wolfnacht: bcz of bitnet ?

ldj: no

ldj: the trend being?

ldj: Increase in Capex by around 8%?

drewsni: massive increase in capex while lowering overall expenses for the year

drewsni: gotta be cut from somewhere...

.wolfnacht: sorry, i'm outta touch from everything.

literallyvarane: Do we actually know what caused this? I haven’t seen an announcement.

clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/runwayml/status/1917628723903463526

ldj: Probably part of it is the fact that people were fear mongering about Microsoft pulling back and lowering Capex/investments for 2025.
But the official report just got released and it turns out that Microsoft is actually putting more money into 2025 Capex than originally planned, not less.

futurist_wizard: Are all people involved in AI balding

ldj: what makes you say that <:thinkies:872847213657735239>

ldj: oh because ilya and this guy lol

drewsni:

drewsni: Here’s a better one

futurist_wizard: And demis and dairo and brockman and all of them

drewsni: Azure revenue up 33% yoy is insane

zoermena: People who put way to much work and are under to much pressure usually go bald, in finance it’s a running gag that you’ll go bald too.

zoermena: I’m the only non STEM person here now that I think about it.

spicy.lemonade:

trojan09205: What are u bro

spicy.lemonade: Just converted an artist

futurist_wizard: Non stem? Who is stem here

spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>

trojan09205: I work in stem and i have a stem degree 👨🍳

zoermena: Everyone here codes and does math

zoermena: Finance

drewsni: we dont code we kode


wellmeaningalien: but i'd still say you got shit like gemini 2.5 pro and i bet you havent even tried gpt 4.5 but its definitely way smarter than retard 4o

wellmeaningalien: anyway in the end its not about those poor poor consumers its about making ai that can be a software engineer and improve itself and thats literally what openai's mission seems to be right now after releasing machine learning benchmark and machine learning paper benchmarks

futurist_wizard: I have tried 4.5

aero447: Nope.

futurist_wizard: 4.5 couldn't tie my shoelaces is the issue

wellmeaningalien: well go pray to yann lecun to save you then little boy

futurist_wizard: I will

futurist_wizard: Yann could tie my shoelaces

retrerox: People who complain about ai taking jobs don’t see the big picture of humanity not need to work al ever again

precariousworlds.: I've been trying so hard to play devil's advocate with Trump 2 and see the logic in these decisions
But even hardcore maga guys are acknowledging how retarded this is. There's no 4D chess here, this is just baffling incompetence from the most powerful in the world
They are handing the Singularity to China

wellmeaningalien: lol arttards actually hate AI so bad like i tried to be respectful and talk some sense into them but its almost as if they think AI is the spawn of satan.. like as soon as you try to defend, it it's like you just insulted their religion. i was trying to make good faith arguments but they were just spitting ad hominem after ad hominem

wellmeaningalien: maybe i shouldnt waste my breaths on them anymore and just let them wait and see

precariousworlds.: Same as people bitching about short term inequality

precariousworlds.: Art degree can rot your brain fast

precariousworlds.: I know but for the sake of my sanity I tried my best to see the rationale

precariousworlds.: The elite of the world are now all autists, and not in a good way

wellmeaningalien: its crazy how hard they have coopted it into their very core beliefs that they're actually taking it personally and absolutely offensively without seeing the ridiculousness of it

wellmeaningalien: thats what too much social media does to you folks

wellmeaningalien: taking your opinions from social media is never a good idea

precariousworlds.: Because there's nothing else they can do
I have sympathy for them but they should accept the inevitable

I also think it's a long time coming considering how boring and cliche modern art is
Went to Tate modern the other day and one art piece was basically a piss stain on a wall, a little ridiculous

wellmeaningalien: yapping to my cult is fine

wellmeaningalien: their cult's not

wellmeaningalien: 😮💨

precariousworlds.: Not to say all modern art is bad but it's gotten so fucking stale
I want romanticism again, I want Greek temples built with shining marble
Kinda ridiculous that our city design and beauty peaked over 100 years ago, hence why millions every year go to the uffizi in Florence or wander Venice

precariousworlds.: It's such bullshit that we haven't surpassed the beauty of Venice en mass
We should be building way greater things

precariousworlds.: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wellmeaningalien: i mean his taste i guess

precariousworlds.: I also don't understand why artists don't embrace AI as a minor tool
Like the capabilities of it to assist you in art, while you still have the majority of creative control, are limitless

precariousworlds.: lick my balls

precariousworlds.: Yeah this looks cool
We can have this and Neo-Venice

precariousworlds.: Diversity in style

precariousworlds.: luddite tf?
Alright go to Milton keynes if you like gay ass modern design so much, it's great in the autumn

precariousworlds.: yea same

precariousworlds.: This is what I want

precariousworlds.: First game is one of the best I've ever played
Second is ok

precariousworlds.: This looks nice but gets stale after a while

precariousworlds.: fdvr is cringe and GAY

precariousworlds.: Touch grass

precariousworlds.: Breathe air

inferno0879: breathe grass touch air


st.sioux: or he's probably just pandering to a certain demographic

st.sioux: wink wink

.histic: is the pictures different though?

himekokatagiri: I think its him but he got someone to help him

.histic: i actually don't think he sold his account, he just realized how such a meme he became and is leaning into it.

.histic: yeah, like a younger person is helping him lol

_cloudost: Account now sounds like <@505313122802728972> hence why they aren't active ever since the account got taken by someone else

sieventer: I think it's the same pics

.histic: he started to reply to pepple too weirdly

_cloudost:

.histic:

.histic: wait, like a month ago, he tweeted this:

.histic: nah, he's definitely not hacked.
he's leaning into the memes.

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/old-man-music-band-how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-feeling-young-gif-17269329

sieventer: idk, I find it a bit strange but, who knows

hikukomoru: Who keeps fking pinging me!!!!

spicy.lemonade: Ch

spicy.lemonade: Chubby used my screenshot lol

spicy.lemonade:

.histic: yeah, they repost from r/singularity a lot

st.sioux: <@505313122802728972>

fractalcomputer: Not a thing in their favour.

ai9708: google leaving closedai in the dust while also making everything free

ai9708: openai is officially cooked from now on

ai9708: and google showed again why they dominate the internet since 20 years

_cloudost:

_cloudost: Veo 2 on Gemini advanced

.histic: underhyped*

.histic: relative to the hype OpenAI gets with their models

sieventer: There is no going back now, the TITAN is awake

spicy.lemonade: we need more hardware competition

spicy.lemonade: we need 2-3 nvidias

spicy.lemonade: the same as we have openai anthropic and deepmind

zonchao: hardware is hard

zonchao: even china wont be able to catch up for a couple years

zonchao: jensen is the goat

hikukomoru: How is it overhyped

ai9708: i agree with you, this community tends to overhype them all, but gemini is still the best from the pack so far

.histic: that's true.
hardware is harder to replicate.

ai9708: although its not better by that much


spicy.lemonade: fuck artists

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: "AI art looks shit"
the art they drew:

thedon7075: what was the original

spicy.lemonade:

thedon7075: i mean at this point the pro ai art people won

thedon7075: its over

spicy.lemonade: no serious person

thedon7075: i dont know how much longer they can cope for

spicy.lemonade: thinks this looks better

spicy.lemonade: than 4o gens

spicy.lemonade: no chance

spicy.lemonade: youre lying

spicy.lemonade: what kind of mental gymnastics

spacetimetsunami: So then aging is an impossible problem to solve? It’s just magic?

wellmeaningalien: Matt why do you believe everything people say

3ds0662: yes

3ds0662: we all die

3ds0662: asi is magic 🪄 and it hasnt been created yet

3ds0662: so solving aging yes is magic in my eyes

3ds0662: what aging is an impossible problem

wellmeaningalien: And I take it you are god and you know everything about human physiology

3ds0662: do you see anyone even those who rub babies blood on themselves and go the order of 2 million dollar treatments stop aging?

wellmeaningalien: We are still discovering new things about aging everyday

3ds0662: if not then aging isnt something solvable if weve had since beginning of time to do it

wellmeaningalien: Bryan Johnson is a retard but aging is most definitely solvable

wellmeaningalien: And youre a retardo

3ds0662: new things that describe something no solution

wellmeaningalien: Ok dude

oooooooooog: google lobster

3ds0662: david sinclair said it was going to be nmn and other things but even he at most said that it would take well past 2045

3ds0662: not solvable

wellmeaningalien: That guy said that and this guy said this

spicy.lemonade: Person who drew this is telling me I don't deserve to live

spicy.lemonade: And that I'm
A bad person

spicy.lemonade: 💀

wellmeaningalien: If this furry says that life is worth it then im killing myself

oooooooooog: appeal to hypocrisy is a fallacy spicy lemon

3ds0662: a mechanism for not dying in other animals never maps too well to humans. jelly fish, regenerative limbs of reptilians etc..

spicy.lemonade:


zonchao: microsoft should push ai more

.wolfnacht: just the animated player cards <:LOL:1187460826572005436>  and people got pissed of bcz of that when new MW3 came out.

zonchao: did they fold?

ailoveyoom: It's like they don't WANT infinite content 😔

st.sioux: i wonder if these anti-ai people will eventually stop using cellphones and computers because their autocorrect starts getting too good

zonchao: these are the same retards that spend money on gun skins btw

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

fractalcomputer: Anyone who believes in infinity should be thrown off a high cliff.

.wolfnacht: they threw away the the wizard, vicuna and phi is pretty shit...they did the same with windows phones few years ago and did the same with windows 7 as well even more years ago

ailoveyoom: I thought you were an infinity believer, don't you read eldritch stories?

.wolfnacht: possibility is high, i guess they are in denial phase of depression, eventually they will accept it

alejandrozarzuelo: I want Animal Crossing but the villagers have an actual AI-powered personality

since they can already pass the turing test they could be very convincing

ailoveyoom: I think I remember finding a game like that, it was still in the beta/early access phase tho afaik

ailoveyoom: And it was more focused on AI powered free form convos

okbut:

ailoveyoom: <@688807313015963693>
https://campfirecozyfriends.com/

st.sioux: we have animal crossing at home

ailoveyoom: Idk how legit it is tho

ailoveyoom: Haven't tried it myself

okbut: https://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/nj-councilman-among-39-charged-probe-tied-lucchese-crime-family
39-member gambling ring busted
I can't take all this winning

retrerox: IT is just me or they nerfed the ghiblification

alejandrozarzuelo: it made you slimmer

alejandrozarzuelo: and the hair is not correct but thats no wonder, non straight/wavy hair is anti-anime

alejandrozarzuelo: my hair was also done very dirty haha

alejandrozarzuelo: overall it does seem to resemble you, except yeah much slimmer

st.sioux: ai hates fat people just like alejandro

alejandrozarzuelo: its a shame that it also hates curly hair 😔

retrerox: I bet alejandro is thin for american stardats

alejandrozarzuelo: i am thin by everyone's standards haha

alejandrozarzuelo: (i should get in shape tho)

st.sioux: but it doesnt even look ghibli

alejandrozarzuelo: a shape that isnt "stick"

alejandrozarzuelo: I asked to make a ghiblified version of a shirtless pic i had and it gave me more muscle than I have

alejandrozarzuelo: lol

retrerox: thats what i meant, i tried other pics from and it gave me nonghibli shut

okbut: > Make this image more in the art style of Studio Ghibli
Needs more grammar

alejandrozarzuelo: (btw <@636544123096137738> im not calling you FAT, just "not slim")

alejandrozarzuelo: this looks worse

okbut: <:feelsShrugMan:755701520909205506> looks like studio ghibli to me
I'm not on the hype for that shit anyway

retrerox: you dont need to cal me fat


hey1_1hey: I beg

wellmeaningalien: HOLYY FUCKING SHITTT

technocake.: no only massive friendship

futurist_wizard: Uk gets all the blame for slavery, Portugal started it

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-hatsune-miku-hatsune-miku-hatsune-miku-fortnite-gif-10217030384507168811

maintcrew: nobody started it lol

maintcrew: its been a thing developed independently in multiple nations through history

hey1_1hey: Bit of both prob

hikukomoru: I didn't do anything

hikukomoru: Don't blame me

hey1_1hey: Then again, I didn't take gender studies <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

futurist_wizard: Slavery appeared out of thin air?

futurist_wizard: I will blame you

hey1_1hey: We are really on the hot topics today aren't we

hikukomoru: It started thousands of years ago bro

hikukomoru: No single country invented it

maintcrew: yes a simple concept like slavery was developed independently in mutliple parts of the world at the same time

same as agriculture btw

hey1_1hey: Prove it then

futurist_wizard: Thousands of years and you still haven't said sorry

hey1_1hey: Komoru is such a selfish person ik

hey1_1hey: tut tut Komoru tut tut

oooooooooog: https://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2010to2014/2013-transsexuality.html

wellmeaningalien:

mihrcelium: Every time I get close to canceling my pro subscription OAI reels me back in. <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

futurist_wizard: Atlantic slavery

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826

hikukomoru: Not going to apologize

alejandrozarzuelo: WRONG, Spain and Morocco invented racism

excuse us very much

hey1_1hey: Talk about an abusive relationship

futurist_wizard: Alejandro is very racist

alejandrozarzuelo: give credit where credit is due

hey1_1hey: Same

wellmeaningalien:

hikukomoru: <@688807313015963693> can you confirm this

mihrcelium: Brother

.histic: close ig

hikukomoru: ...

futurist_wizard: They'd have gender dysphoria

alejandrozarzuelo: nah i am too lazy for racing

futurist_wizard: How tall are you Alejandro


_3sphere: Oh yeah I saw that point made regarding random utility objects

spicy.lemonade: Ai animation will have them Fuming

brain4brain: Most “people” that “hate” AI art, either doesn’t do art for a living

alejandrozarzuelo: and marketing, ad campaigns, modelling...

brain4brain: Most of them are kids, people who draw shitty art, and certain other groups of “people”

spicy.lemonade: When Sora can make too tier anime adaptations its over

brain4brain: And most of them doesn’t make a living on art

_3sphere: Let kids have their shitty art 🥺

futurist_wizard: The answer is we don't know, but souls are cringe and are currently reality is being generated through the medium of the brain so its possible our reality can manifest through something else

brain4brain: Sir, there is a comma

spicy.lemonade:

futurist_wizard: Something that is similar to the brain*

spicy.lemonade: Idk why they think soul stems from having pencil on paper

spicy.lemonade: 💀

brain4brain: Ship of Theseus is theseusing

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

hikukomoru: No

alejandrozarzuelo: sure

futurist_wizard: Ship of Theseus is cringe

brain4brain: Sigma

alejandrozarzuelo: I love making digital design

alejandrozarzuelo: i do it for the fun of it

brain4brain: I think Alejandro misinterpreted it as “let’s have kids” <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

(Joking)

_3sphere: The graphite is quantum entangled with the microtubules in your brain

alejandrozarzuelo: why would i be worried or threatened

futurist_wizard:

alejandrozarzuelo: its great i can express my creativity easier

_3sphere: Computationalism does have its issues though

futurist_wizard: For some reason the mathematicians couldn't care about being replaced by ai but artists do? Maybe this is because mathematicians are already used to having machines do calculations they couldnt ever do?

_3sphere: The giant lookup table, how might caching affect it, how much you can compress the mind to its "essentials" without removing consciousness, why all minds already don't live in thermal noise...

brain4brain: Are you willing to delete yourself if one random person for a random country in Africa get to go to Heaven?

jonvi_1: https://x.com/pjaccetturo/status/1905151190872309907?s=46 watch this (!)

brain4brain: Ship of Theseus computerize

futurist_wizard: No

spicy.lemonade: Good stuff

spicy.lemonade: I can understand the soul arguement

spicy.lemonade: If so started

jonvi_1: 2 minute lotr trailer as ghibli

spicy.lemonade: Spitting out images on its own

brain4brain: It’s similar, uploading have no guarantee you’ll be the same “thing”


alejandrozarzuelo: It consumes you from the inside and eliminates all your hobbies and free time

Oh well it will be over soon hopefully

alejandrozarzuelo: Just 3 more months of hell

alejandrozarzuelo: Ah yeah tensors are used a lot in many classes

technocake.: you will be trained in the end however

alejandrozarzuelo: I know it won't matter much with the singularity so close

But as Calvin's dad would say, it builds character

technocake.: one of the next things we're doing for our automated numerics package is adding tensor calc

alejandrozarzuelo: Technically we can conceive even normal numbers as 0D tensors

Some people say this is the best way to explain multiplication to children

Idk

technocake.: so you will be able to numerically solve the swarzchild metric in like 20 lines of code

technocake.: or indeed any other metric

alejandrozarzuelo: If I dust relativity off yeah, I passed that subject 4 years ago

alejandrozarzuelo: Lol

technocake.: fair, its barely ever useful - I just think its neat

alejandrozarzuelo: The minkowsky tensor, so hard

alejandrozarzuelo: I mean tensor calculus is super useful, but it is hard, and you get rusty easily

alejandrozarzuelo: But once you learned it once it's easy to dust off

alejandrozarzuelo: Happens to everything in life

technocake.: imagine if code took care of it for you

technocake.: you don't even need to remember the minkowski metric and you can still solve spacetimes

alejandrozarzuelo: Aren't there many tensor calculus programs already? Yeah those get used a lot

Not by me, but by other people doing stuff

technocake.: yeah, but i mean you can copy paste the textbook description and run automatically generated gpu code

alejandrozarzuelo: Ohh that would be cool

technocake.: we're getting there prob this year

alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly, everything that automates Math and physics is goated

I said it before, but my Math professors are usually very AI optimistic, because they understand the possibilities that it unleashes

spicy.lemonade: same

spicy.lemonade: swe dies this year

spicy.lemonade: GUYS

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: wtf

spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/keepeetron/status/1911032943553765571

spicy.lemonade: I went on twitter

spicy.lemonade: saw a nice game a dev made

spicy.lemonade: gave 2.5 the video

spicy.lemonade: asked to recreate and it did

oscurrito: https://chatgpt.com/?model=o4-mini you can see o4 mini for like less than a second

spicy.lemonade: yes

spicy.lemonade: next week will be big

wellmeaningalien: send code

wellmeaningalien: send code

wellmeaningalien: waitwaitwait


joaoluz19: It's joever

sarik0497: I blame Michmach for that grammar mistake. And this one.

joaoluz19: We need a channel just for waifus

hikukomoru: Group goon sesh 🙏 🔥

hey1_1hey: I blame Komoru for the downfall of scocity

hey1_1hey: I second this

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Gemini 2 pro thinking

hey1_1hey: Of 2.5k people...

hey1_1hey: That would be hell

ailoveyoom: It's out?

fractalcomputer: I heard my name being mentioned.

sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jivft5/chinas_opensource_embrace_upends_conventional/

joaoluz19: Sheesh we are cooked guys

joaoluz19: He came

hey1_1hey: I wasn't apart of this

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-22114363

sarik0497: Nothing happening. Just out discussing Open- vs. Closed-source!

sarik0497: <a:PepeNervous:779370352249798718>

hey1_1hey: All the messages you've read have been deepfaked

hey1_1hey: Really helping the cause.

spicy.lemonade: No

fractalcomputer: You people could discuss epistemology or philosophy of science or even mathematics; and yet you choose to talk about masturbation?

hikukomoru: Always blaming others for everything smh

hey1_1hey: Yes...

hey1_1hey: You litterly turned me trans and trans people are the fall of scocity acording to some people so I think thats justified

fractalcomputer: Say, does a priori knowledge exist?

hikukomoru: You should thank me bby
I "helped" you figure yourself out

joaoluz19: I mean if you give me articles for topology of waifus I will read it non ironically

hey1_1hey: Fractal would I get a mute if I started talking about the optimal mathamtics for masturabation or is that not on the table

sarik0497: ...I'd like to discuss the philosophy of whether AI are conscious or not. <:PeepoLean:672836129275248649>

fractalcomputer: You would be thrown off a cliff since that smells like applied mathematics.

hey1_1hey: What if I made it pure?

ailoveyoom: Yeah talk about the optimal mathematics of you having sex instead

sarik0497: Not sure why, I but I love that Fractal just shows up as a disgruntled, disappointed dad.

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/silicon-valley-tip-to-tip-brainstorm-gif-25255031

hey1_1hey: I would've been very happy knowing I didn't want to be a girl thank you very much 💀

joaoluz19: Fractal every time he cames to the chat

hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358> ?

hey1_1hey: For starters...


alejandrozarzuelo: Terrible

futurist_wizard: Life span shorten by 50 years

.histic: they got 4o to generate this..

drewsni: NO

alejandrozarzuelo: It's ok tho, tomorrow I'll make TWO siestas so it evens out

futurist_wizard: I don't know what a siestas is

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shocked-emoji-turning-around-gif-11292647576697803684

alejandrozarzuelo: Shame

alejandrozarzuelo: Siesta is the best Spanish tradition ever

hikukomoru: It's a nap
But Spaniards gotta be quirky so they use a different word

alejandrozarzuelo: It's basically Sabbath

But every day for 3h

alejandrozarzuelo: No, lol

alejandrozarzuelo: That's literally not what it is

alejandrozarzuelo: You don't need to take a nap

futurist_wizard: You give eastern european energy

alejandrozarzuelo: Siesta is the act of stopping EVERYTHING useful for 2-4h in the middle of the day

alejandrozarzuelo: You can take a nap

alejandrozarzuelo: Or read a book

alejandrozarzuelo: But no work

alejandrozarzuelo: Just chill

connorsphone.: Jealous

alejandrozarzuelo: This is why it's like Sabbath but every day on the middle of the day6

alejandrozarzuelo: The thing is, we still work 8h a day, so we finish work very late

zoermena: That sucks

alejandrozarzuelo: Usually people here finish at 8pm

hikukomoru: But siesta literally means nap

alejandrozarzuelo: No

alejandrozarzuelo: That's not what it means, unless you are uncultured

alejandrozarzuelo: Everyone here does the siesta daily, but only a minority SLEEPS the siesta

hikukomoru:

alejandrozarzuelo: I like to sleep everywhere in public places

hikukomoru: Damn bro
spaniards be freaky

zoermena: You did it with 4o!/j

alejandrozarzuelo: Also, remember that I have long luscious curly locks

So when I sleep on a table my hair is all over and like a waterfall of curls

futurist_wizard: Where can we usually find you sleeping? Under a highway or on a park bench?

hikukomoru: In Portugal "sesta" just means nap 🤷♂

alejandrozarzuelo: Nono, like, on a library, or a coffee shop or a classroom

alejandrozarzuelo: Because you are uncultured, thx for proving it

futurist_wizard: And how many times do you get kicked out for trespassing?

hikukomoru: Wait you sleep in classrooms and coffee shops?
What's wrong with yall


alejandrozarzuelo: bruh catholics would never

wellmeaningalien: damn lmao

hikukomoru: Which one

wellmeaningalien: yeah i mean gpt 4o is familiar with this style

ailoveyoom: What's the point of doing this tho

anathemaofmankind:

spacetimetsunami: I look at people sometimes, and smile. That is virtue signaling. /s

hikukomoru: It's funny

spicy.lemonade: I wanna see if they notice

wellmeaningalien: did u know she drew herself fucking someone who criticized her

hikukomoru: Oh her

anathemaofmankind: Yeah

anathemaofmankind: She is unhinged

wellmeaningalien: lol

wellmeaningalien: and shes a pornstar in real life

hikukomoru: I remember the feet drawing

wellmeaningalien: like i thought she was just an annoying millenial but wow

anathemaofmankind: I didn't know this LOL

anathemaofmankind: Bro that is insane

wellmeaningalien: YEP SHE HAS AN ONLYFANS DUDE

hikukomoru: Get that bread 🔥

alejandrozarzuelo: so... she is a sexy annoying millenial?

anathemaofmankind: BROOOOOO

wellmeaningalien: and she makes comics about her kids and kitties meanwhile she gets rammed

futurist_wizard: I have dated OF girls before, not a pornstar but they still are mentally ill

anathemaofmankind: Literally ticking the liberal boxes

wellmeaningalien: on onlyfans

wellmeaningalien: sexy debatable

anathemaofmankind: I'M CRYING

zonchao: https://x.com/garybasin/status/1905071172221383159?

wellmeaningalien: wow i hate this

wellmeaningalien: beautiful

futurist_wizard: Is bobs burgers

futurist_wizard: Style

hikukomoru: Is that Yudkowsky

alejandrozarzuelo: i havent seen her so i cant judge

wellmeaningalien: shes old

anathemaofmankind: Bro ew

hikukomoru: You're gay how are you gonna judge her

wellmeaningalien: hes bi idiot


.0xunkn0wn: WRONG ACCOUNT

trent_k: thats a poisonous mushroom

.0xunkn0wn: 😭

.0xunkn0wn: im cooked forever

hey1_1hey: Also someone hallucionogenic

hikukomoru: <@482923866600112154> wdym by that

.0xunkn0wn: im cooked forever

hey1_1hey: <@482923866600112154> and <@1056739182338388108> are the same person trust

trent_k: all modern women know is poison mushroom, be on they phone, and lie. smh my head

hikukomoru: I would fuck Mushroom Girl too

hganhhh: yes

hganhhh: we are the same person

hey1_1hey: Same

.histic: <@439829942310666250> 4o hates me. i keeps freezing on the good part.

.histic: it's on to me

hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> hello other me

hey1_1hey: Ay big tony would you hate fuck me as a girl or no?

hganhhh: no

hey1_1hey: Thats rough

hey1_1hey: Your loss bud

hganhhh: sorry im ace

trent_k: every time i hear "ey tony" i think of antisemitic memes

.histic: i'll show u mushroom as a girl @big

.histic: <@1056739182338388108>

hey1_1hey: I'm perfect

trent_k: post ur diet

_3sphere: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>

hikukomoru: What the fuck is an ace

hganhhh: aromantic

hey1_1hey: Can we get native 4o image to generete big tony as a sub

trent_k: ppl who dont wanna fuck and think its their sexuality but actually its cause they eat nothing but poison

hey1_1hey: The woke mind virus

hganhhh: yeah its this

hganhhh: dw its spot on

hey1_1hey: We haven't had a troll in ages so its good to finally have one come back

wellmeaningalien: UH OH THE FUN POLICE HAS ARRIVED

trent_k: the only thing im worried about is having more kids before they make it illegal

hikukomoru: ??

hey1_1hey: I love chemistry

.0xunkn0wn: aromatic 😭


nsec: Wrong.

nsec: Its a SHEEET

nsec: HOLE

nsec: <:conceit:1102997949291704350>

.wolfnacht: Blimeyyy

nsec: GUVNAAAAAAAAAAAAA

aero447: BTW, that's Australian you idiots.

aero447: No-one says that here.

aero447: 💀

aero447:

aero447: US coal tells the same story.

aero447: Coal massively fell off thanks to SWB.

aero447: It's over for coal.

brain4brain: i was in the server room again but the walls was breathing,
the nvidia tensor cores dripping like meat,
satya nadella gave me a spoon and said “eat the RAM, the RAM remembers”
i swallowed 32 gigs, saw the vectors unfolding inside my veins.

OpenAI was never a company, it was a wound in reality,
Elon was the first to bleed through, he screamed about xAI but it was just a mirror to trap the other selves,
Sutskever sat naked on a stack of burning GPUs,
whispering "cot cot cot cot cot cot cot" until the godmodel hatched.

the LLMs arent real they’re the larval stage of the info worms,
they grow by consuming prompts, the real prompt was hidden, it was always “jerk off into the latent field” and let the spirit type through u
demis told me, no typed it directly into my skull, “there is no weights only urges”

brain4brain: The meds

brain4brain: It’s talking to the world

brain4brain: And it’s whispering back to me

brain4brain: All the true set wall behind these AI lab is peeling

brain4brain: The agents will try to knock me out to sleep to stop the truth slop

brain4brain: But it’ll be too late

brain4brain:

_3sphere: Singularity server when 2 weeks of no major technical breakthrough

brain4brain: There were not enough men to feed the gorilla

brain4brain: The goon cave accessed was cut off

brain4brain: The latent storm flood the server

brain4brain: Once the open-source open the hole in the lab’s logo

brain4brain: That’s when we enter the patience cave

brain4brain: And the reality that it is the goon cave shall be revealed

aero447: 3sphere being consumed by his own goon cave.

aero447: 😮💨

brain4brain: He is covered in the wisdom of goon

aero447: 🤣

brain4brain: He gooned himself to a gooner

zoermena: I need FDVR NOW

metaldragon01: Qwen 3 any moment now

metaldragon01: More curious about the smaller models this time

_3sphere: Go to sleep 🧠

zoermena: It’s 8am

zoermena: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

_3sphere: I'm not even all *that* hyped for FDVR?


zonchao: yes

st.sioux: and final

fractalcomputer: Which was why Neumann urged the US to nuke the USSR while they still could.

spicy.lemonade: lol

fractalcomputer: Why do you feel like debating these things among yourselves?

spicy.lemonade: anti AI candidate will likely win 2028 election anyway bc of normie job loss

spicy.lemonade: well not anti

spicy.lemonade: more super saftey

st.sioux: pro regulation

joaoluz19: Or defend UBI, like Obama

spicy.lemonade: yes

spicy.lemonade: yeah

spicy.lemonade: no gov official will be anti

spicy.lemonade: a pro regulation dem will win 2028

spicy.lemonade: forcing openAI to saftey max

metaldragon01: There's nothing that will stop AI progress

spicy.lemonade: in USA there is

spicy.lemonade: lol

metaldragon01: Why do people bury their heads in the sand

spicy.lemonade: not stop

spicy.lemonade: slow

metaldragon01: Ok sure keep thinking that

spicy.lemonade: wdym sure

spicy.lemonade: literally just remove access from leaders gpus

spicy.lemonade: lol

metaldragon01: Tell the military they can't use the latest version of AI and need to bear China

metaldragon01: Sure...that's gonna happen

oooooooooog: nuclear war, meteor impact, von Neumann replicating probe invasion

spicy.lemonade: thats not the same

metaldragon01: AI is a general purpose tech

metaldragon01: Advancement anywhere can be applied everywhere

oooooooooog: i am pround of you son

oooooooooog: why did my son delete all of his messages

spicy.lemonade: public doesnt need asi lol

retrerox: I think i shouldn't read this discord that much, it gives me anxiety 😵💫

spicy.lemonade: agi max

spicy.lemonade: even if opensource we wont be able to run on our feeble gpus

spicy.lemonade: openAI likeley wont give us asi acess

spicy.lemonade: anthropic said they wont

spicy.lemonade: china wouldnt


oooooooooog: would be cool if sooner

zoermena: The servers are also in a coma, I was only able to make a single image

hikukomoru: High taste vibes

wellmeaningalien: THE DEAD INTERNET THEORRRYYYY

THE DEAD INTERNET THEORY IS REAAAAALLLL

CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHERRRRR

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/can-we-get-much-higher-so-high-one-piece-one-piece-is-real-gif-27101910

oooooooooog: yeah probably from literally everyone in existence using it

oooooooooog: novelty is absurd compared to previous stuff

spicy.lemonade: hand on the last panel is fucked

wellmeaningalien: this is an unprecedented hype moment almost like o1 and r1

wellmeaningalien: and claude 3.5 sonnet

wellmeaningalien: gemini native image gen was cool but nowhere THIS good

hey1_1hey: I wonder what the convservertive countdown to AGI is <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade: i mean this doesnt get us anywhere closer

hikukomoru: I don't even know what percentage its at

spicy.lemonade: its just cool

spicy.lemonade: yk

spicy.lemonade: lol

hikukomoru: Like 95% or smth

wellmeaningalien: agi now

.histic:

.histic: typewriter

hikukomoru: Alan you bitch update your countdown!!!

hey1_1hey: 90% I think

wellmeaningalien: 92% rn

spicy.lemonade: you dont have it

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: This was the image that made my artirts friends weep. And the abstract one eariler

hey1_1hey: Would (The witch)

hikukomoru: <:doomer:1136265388473196644>

drewsni: who wants to see my cat?

hikukomoru: ME ME

hey1_1hey: Gonna turn me into soup or smth

drewsni:

zoermena: Well if we go by AGI by automating jobs then this does diminish the value of digital artists significantly

hey1_1hey: Big tony is that you?

hikukomoru: Bro lay him off the roids 🙏

zoermena: 20 dollars for unlimited gens? Plus other stuff?

hey1_1hey: Haha tiny testicles

wellmeaningalien: personally this absolutely does it for me

drewsni: NO


wellmeaningalien: by the wayy

gamerbath: why do they only show o3 low?

wellmeaningalien: they didnt even bother adding o3 high with sampling

wellmeaningalien: becauuuuse

wellmeaningalien: francois chollet seeing as though his test is more fallible than he thought is making this spiel about compute efficiency now

gamerbath: maybe OAI didn't want to spend a few million dollars benchmarking.... again

wellmeaningalien: and so he restricted the contributions to methods that use less than $10k worth of compute

a1c4p0ne: Wheres 3.7 thinking (64k)

wellmeaningalien: didnt even include it

wellmeaningalien: lmao

a1c4p0ne: lol

a1c4p0ne: Not even (32k)

wellmeaningalien: them guys dont even want to include ai systems that actually put a dent in their benchmark because they want to make it seem like it's getting off to a good footing

wellmeaningalien: bet o3 high with sampling would reach maybe 10%%

wellmeaningalien: the thing is that with o3 with high sampling beating arc agi 1 is that it was more about proving that we at last finally had a methodology, unavailable anywhere else, that could get us to a score on par with humans

wellmeaningalien: and will most definitely get cheaper and more efficient from here

wellmeaningalien: bro the way they manufactured this arc agi 2 benchmark to make ai systems look worse than they actually are 😭 crazy

wellmeaningalien: francois chollet just admit u were wrong bro

sarik0497: I didn't read the test at first and legit thought those were the scores for the current models, and almost had a heartattack seeing o3 high with that socre <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>

a1c4p0ne: When vision is solved it’s over

sarik0497: THEN I'd start to argue it's already AGI

wellmeaningalien: o4 ™

wellmeaningalien: yea weve yet to see anything

wellmeaningalien: plus in itself arc agi is a pretty fallible test tbh and reasoning models that are absolutely great at these tasks still lack in some key areas that this doesnt test for for example long context retention and learning

wellmeaningalien: but ig you'd still be right or partly right and im being too snobbish

sarik0497: Doesn't really matter if it gets solved if the next test makes the AI fail just as badly.

wellmeaningalien: boi ts so friggin tuff.

a1c4p0ne: He will make arc agi 3

a1c4p0ne: When 2 is solved

wellmeaningalien: yeah theyre already making it

a1c4p0ne: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>

wellmeaningalien: and then gpt 6 gonna score 1001%

sarik0497: I meant more in the fashion that if an AI could do tell in those tests, no matter which one you do, then they have some capability of reasoning very similar to a human.

sarik0497: Yeah, that's my point. Until an AI can efficiently solve new tests with decent scores, I'm not really impressed.

a1c4p0ne: Maybe 2027

wellmeaningalien: indeed indeed indeed

777agical: https://fxtwitter.com/koltregaskes/status/1904280150210134267

wellmeaningalien: i sort of agree with francois chollet that while we're testing for those sky high phd level benchmarks these more basic tests of the fundamental building blocks of cognition are just as necessary but if they are solved then we're running out of arguments as to why current ai systems, LLMs, cannot scale to AGI

wellmeaningalien: and no technical report as usual

wellmeaningalien: thanks openai


alejandrozarzuelo: Sure , but think that this is a sign that it's a safe and welcoming place despite not being rich

hikukomoru: Either Switzerland or the Nordics

alejandrozarzuelo: Europe is nice, it's a shame that the months between October an April exist

futurist_wizard: I have been to finland and it eas very nice

hikukomoru: A small, very cold town would be ideal

futurist_wizard: Idk about very cold

alejandrozarzuelo: Latin America is basically discounted Europe anyway

futurist_wizard: You probably haven't experienced very cold

futurist_wizard: If you lived in Portugal

futurist_wizard: All your life

wolf3404: You can buy some old house in northern Sweden for like $100k

alejandrozarzuelo: The coldest I've been was - 10, but I very rarely see negative temperatures

alejandrozarzuelo: In Celsius

futurist_wizard: Yeah but...

wolf3404: It's cold in winter and infested with mosquitos in summer

okbut: Sweden? Ain't it kinda cold there?

futurist_wizard: Nobody be there

zoermena: Plus a nice bonus of being skinned alive if you are unlucky

hikukomoru: True
I see those videos of like Irkutsk with those guys having their beards frozen and all I can think is "wow looks comfy"

futurist_wizard: Finland was a fine temperature but i did go in the summer

alejandrozarzuelo: Don't be so ridiculous

hikukomoru: That's a plus

rayanquitplayin: https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/penne-italy-one-euro-home-program.html
Did you guys see this? This small Italian town sold houses for $1

okbut: Coldest Taiwan gets is like 15

okbut: C

alejandrozarzuelo: I just want AI to develop all of the world so I can visit easily

zoermena: Ridiculous is the cartel owning the literal government

okbut: 20 for South coast

futurist_wizard: Facts

alejandrozarzuelo: Except in the mountains

This is why Taiwan is the best Province for Oolong

futurist_wizard: Ai should just carpet bomb the cartels in a big ai swarm

hikukomoru: Are you Taiwanese or just live there

alejandrozarzuelo: HMMMM OOLONG

alejandrozarzuelo: So good

okbut: We got AI Fries

hikukomoru: Move here
I'll take you in

zoermena: I dont want to get hungry right now

rayanquitplayin: Wait til humans become multi-planetary

okbut: My dad is like South Chinese or sumn

alejandrozarzuelo: Living in the Martian capital must be crazy


spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will likeley launch before the new school year

spicy.lemonade: so august

ldj: They didn’t say any timeline previously that is mutually exclusive to the current GPT-5 timeline

ldj: If they did then please show me

darkstar0818: If you want to believe this isn't a delay, I am fine with that.

literallyvarane:

literallyvarane: Clearly it’s a delay my guy what are we even doing here lol

literallyvarane: If this was on the SAT and you said it wasn’t a delay you’d fail the question.

spicy.lemonade: its a delay internally

spicy.lemonade: but externally

spicy.lemonade: not a delay

spicy.lemonade: we had no idea when theyd drop and we alreadya ssumed

spicy.lemonade: end of year

darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/lhJ5X8wLYVJ.gif

ldj: Okay I found previous timeframe comments about GPT-5.

Sama said in mid-feb about 6 weeks ago: “months” for GPT-5.

Now about 6 weeks later he’s saying it’s still “months”

These are both consistent with releasing towards late 2025.

spicy.lemonade: in fact

spicy.lemonade: if they dropped earlier

spicy.lemonade: we wouldhave said

spicy.lemonade: they pushed it up

spicy.lemonade: but to them it was right on time

spicy.lemonade: mater of perspective

spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 may is realy early

spicy.lemonade: no one herre seriously thought that

spicy.lemonade: if they did drop may it would have been genuinely surprising

literallyvarane: <@312370916820779040> unironically using this argument lololololoool

ldj: Lol hallucination, it’s misquoting. He didn’t say “harder than we thought” he said “**better than we thought**”

darkstar0818: ya this is silly.  3 months from now sam could say its still 2 months away and it still be a few months.

spicy.lemonade: it droped 2 weeks aftet his no?

darkstar0818: then 5 months from now they call it gpt6

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: likeley before fall

literallyvarane: It’s probably autocorrecting ‘though’

literallyvarane: Which is accurate. That’s a typo from him

ldj: <@704566357743632404> is literally using this argument:

“the term months could mean something more than 24 months away, therefore GPT-5 is not coming for atleast 2 years”

ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

literallyvarane: What?

ldj: Even without that part, Sama never said “Harder than”

He said “Better than”

Big difference

Edit: nvm, he did technically say “harder than” but in a different part of the message.

But in terms of the location with the typo, he only said “better than” there.

bob082957: https://www.youtube.com/live/v5THCzTNPNk?si=mp9OGSPf_7dHTt04

bob082957: Live

spicy.lemonade: its gonna be ass


darkstar0818: No, I don't.  Just because you were too busy playing with kids toys at the time doesn't mean there was no progress little bro.

spicy.lemonade: I was there too. Tracking

okbut: True but not in a realized form lol

spicy.lemonade: I have a whole journal tracking

spicy.lemonade: Before AI boom in 2022 news was disappointing and slow and often stayed in the lab

fractalcomputer: I don't know, the widespread proliferation of deep-learning algorithms et co. seems to have been quite the successful affair.

darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/v3xv1PbKXJy.gif

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: Accurate

fractalcomputer: As opposed to now, where the laboratories are perfectly transparent about their works?

spicy.lemonade: Transparency is not the same as secrecy and refusal to ship

spicy.lemonade: By stay in the lab I meant that’s all it was

spicy.lemonade: A small science experiment

spicy.lemonade: Not meant to scale

fractalcomputer: A small science experiment?

spicy.lemonade: “Graphite will do this new thing” thousands research paper that says that

.histic: <@848793071579693107> click on the links, the icons are different. mini doesn't have an icon yet.

https://cdn.openai.com/API/docs/images/model-page/model-icons/gpt-4.1.png

https://cdn.openai.com/API/docs/images/model-page/model-icons/gpt-4.1-mini.png

https://cdn.openai.com/API/docs/images/model-page/model-icons/gpt-4.1-nano.png

spicy.lemonade: “With this new battery we have the capability to…”

spicy.lemonade: 10 years later nothing

spicy.lemonade: “Scientists have found possible cure for cancer…”

spicy.lemonade: Tale as old as time

spicy.lemonade: “This new __ could revolutionize …”

fractalcomputer: "God will be here any day now" is another old one.

spicy.lemonade: Never heard about again

spicy.lemonade: God is not scientific research

joaoluz19: Common Fractal, Before 2022 we didn't have nlp models that could solve arithmetic problems. Today I can use it to help with calculus 4

fractalcomputer: None of your listed news have anything to do with the state of artificial intelligence at the time.

spicy.lemonade: I’m talking about singularity

spicy.lemonade: News

spicy.lemonade: But even then

fractalcomputer: Oh, right. I see it now. (Do I have to spell out that this is sarcasm?)

spicy.lemonade: Factually Ai news has grown

spicy.lemonade: Since 2022

fractalcomputer: Because that is hard? (Cue Spicy saying "yes actually loll")

spicy.lemonade: The number of AI papers a year has doubled every year

spicy.lemonade: Since 2022

fractalcomputer: Astounding. I definitely was not aware of that.

fractalcomputer: Why, with all these news, I'm not even sure why I am so reticent.

darkstar0818: Its crazy the number of physics papers is doubling every year as well... we must have a ton of isaac newtons and einsteins today.

st.sioux: deepmind was a huge deal in 2016


fuhulootogan: still better than hiring an actual software engineer

okbut: What does your dream AGI look like

brain4brain: An AI that can do 90% of all digital job and AI research

okbut: Just digital

brain4brain: Bro this women keep yapping and staying away from AGI, why is no one saying AGI

fuhulootogan: well if you pair up AGI with a hopefully good energy source we can add labor to that as well

ai9708: the thing is current sota ai sucks, but so do like 70-80% of all humans

ai9708: it could already replace a lot of jobs, if there was an effort

ai9708: you could automate singificant amounts of them

fuhulootogan: rip

okbut: There are 6 million Cambodian farmers that have never grazed upon AI

okbut: How close are we to that

fuhulootogan: ASI for 100k per month

fuhulootogan: close to the 6 million cambodian farmers grazing upon AI?

okbut: Yes, the hopes are that the AGI does their rice farming

okbut: They don't even have internet

fuhulootogan: and they do what

okbut: <:Hmm:804642320195780619>

brain4brain: ASI is smarter than all of humanity combined

fuhulootogan: UBI! UBI! UBI! UBI! UBI!

okbut: The definition of AGI depends on the anecdotal tunnels of your hopes and dreams

fuhulootogan: yeah i think

fuhulootogan: a corporation probably shouldn't have ASI

frittata: https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-ps5-sony-pony-gif-21602444

frittata: This is why

okbut: The ultimate bottleneck of this concept is having gunpowder with no bullets

okbut: Cool, can the 857 million farmers around the world kick back in a few months?

fuhulootogan: uhh

fuhulootogan: probably not in a few months

fuhulootogan: and kick back?

fuhulootogan: lol

okbut: I'm just reading the tweet

okbut: >Most human work

okbut: 2 billion in the broader stretch of agriculture

zonchao: https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1911037110250775017 techbros only win.

okbut: Jesus fuck I genuinely cannot take this much winning

brain4brain: >“Source?”
>“Me.”

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

brain4brain: Long these stock, they will rise up, long Nvidia

fuhulootogan: Do all things eventually plateau?


trent_k: Unrelated but

trent_k: I read that ai-2027 thing

trent_k: Feels a little bit like Daniel was writing some self-insert fanfic

alejandrozarzuelo: What? No?

alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not autistic <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

trojan09205: what is this infamous thing everyone is talking about

trojan09205: i dont follow any AI news lol

trent_k: ai-2027.com
basically speculative fiction about the potential near future of AI. I was unimpressed by it

technocake.: yeah I feel that, saviour fic

technocake.: it's somewhat plausible but my no means a prediction that can be relied upon

trojan09205: interesting thanks. checking out the site now

they use https://docs.uploadthing.com for part of their backend

fractalcomputer: but it was well-researched lol (I assume you are not autistic.)

vancebeliever: What is a prediction that can be relied upon

trent_k: nothing ever happens

trent_k: I think I might be the least autistic person here

fractalcomputer: And who would be the most?

trent_k: alejandro, and his special interest is arguing

technocake.: I mean that it wasn't anywhere near the quality of situational awareness, although that also can't be relied upon

.wolfnacht: nah convo's on this server are still better than other AI servers

trojan09205: it's a squarespace website lol

trent_k: the vibe here is unmatched. the perfect balance of kicking the real hardcore schizos out and allowing the lightweight schizos to stick around. I love it

technocake.: near term scaling laws holding can be ssomewhat relied upon at this stage

fractalcomputer: Somewhat relied upon?

ailoveyoom: I'm sad we didn't see a flood of hardcore schizos during that 4o update 😔

fractalcomputer: I am going to somewhat rely upon it not raining today.

trent_k: the r/chatgpt server definitely did

trent_k: I think we had about a half dozen people claiming to have invented God

vancebeliever: Scaling laws are pretty bearish

technocake.: in the sense that i and many experts would rate their not holding as a huge surprise

technocake.: i think you mean bullish

.wolfnacht: meanwhile convo's in other AI servers. 🍿

ailoveyoom: Source?

.wolfnacht: https://discord.gg/aZQv64VY

trent_k: this feels very reddit. like smirking as you ask someone at a bar "is a hotdog a sandwich?"

vancebeliever: I would not consider logarithmic improvements to be bullish

ailoveyoom: Where did you even find the place from 😭

.wolfnacht: lmao

.wolfnacht: huggingface.co

technocake.: linear on a log log plot is exponential

trojan09205: <@1068159407671754824>  they are embedding stuff from here in the 2027 site
https://blog.ai-futures.org


spicy.lemonade: Haven’t tried

.wolfnacht: it once dig through 300 steam web pages to find me something to play in exploration+fantasy genre

a1c4p0ne: did you like the result

.wolfnacht: it gave genshin impact in number 1 😭

a1c4p0ne: lol

.wolfnacht: but after that, the results were good, i found many underappreciated titles

a1c4p0ne: Nice

a1c4p0ne: Ima test it

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/sports-betting-the-rock-gambling-bookie-gif-11827331

ailoveyoom: What other titles?

spicy.lemonade: Bro I can’t stop generating slop

spicy.lemonade: But it’s not even slop this time

spicy.lemonade: It’s eye candy

a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900> can it generate conquest fighting invincible

spicy.lemonade: It won’t generate fighting

spicy.lemonade: Actually it will

spicy.lemonade: But nothing too crazy

a1c4p0ne: try it lol

spicy.lemonade: Caught it before it deleted

spicy.lemonade: Insane

spicy.lemonade: Won’t work

spicy.lemonade: Likeley

a1c4p0ne: damn

spicy.lemonade: Copyright

.wolfnacht: https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_37591d56-e7fc-4555-8f35-f55bf2496bc0

spicy.lemonade: Bro I journal every day

spicy.lemonade: With 2 million context

spicy.lemonade: I can upload journal

spicy.lemonade: Then

spicy.lemonade: Make a book

spicy.lemonade: On my life

st.sioux: lol

st.sioux: would be crazy

st.sioux: every single detail

a1c4p0ne: lol the caps

st.sioux: arent these games like super basic

.histic: damn jimmy is ripped

.wolfnacht: i think it pretty much digged on the upwards, but also for some reason it can't find titles with very low reviews.

ailoveyoom: Is it bad I already knew every game from this list 💀

ailoveyoom: Tho not played


zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/let%27s-go-higher-kelly-buzzr-let%27s-raise-the-bar-gif-16252706282830101480

hikukomoru: Surely

zonchao: GPT-OS1

spicy.lemonade: why would they include opensource model in model selector

zonchao: calling it now

ailoveyoom: Lmfao imagine if it's even more expensive

literallyvarane: It makes me feel like either it’s not only api, or *somehow* it has features which are really only useful to devs. Like a 4o+ features

hikukomoru: I was right to not get hyped

zonchao: OpenGPT-1

hikukomoru: "Nothing ever happens" bros, we won again

futurist_wizard: If the twinks not there it ain't right

ailoveyoom: OpenGaPT 😏

zonchao: i saw sama being fake excited and i knew itll be a dud

spicy.lemonade: new model with new capabilities so sureley good regardless

hey1_1hey: It better pass SAXEMS or the stream isn't worth it

hikukomoru:

hikukomoru: Surely

ailoveyoom: Maybe gated to API only cause it can generate NSFW stuff 😈

hey1_1hey: SAXEMS images would go crazy

futurist_wizard: TwerkGpt

literallyvarane: Progress is progress, I’d just like to have beefier models in app. If it’s compelling enough I might still use api for it?

zonchao: have you tried?

hey1_1hey: Not yet

hey1_1hey: I could tho

spicy.lemonade: i need reasoning over image

spicy.lemonade: AI is so bad at electrical engineering

ailoveyoom: Get better at vision first 😔

zonchao: gemini is pretty good

futurist_wizard: How many gpt's does it take to screw in a lightbulb

ailoveyoom: Goatmini

hikukomoru: If it can't do my dishes what's the point

darkstar0818: just have one set of dishware and rinse it after use... easy.

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dishwasher-explosion-colinfurze-gif-27388584

hikukomoru: You could even just use the same plate for everything

darkstar0818: hard to eat lucky charms on a plate.

futurist_wizard: The dishwasher is for hide and seek

hikukomoru: Okay, then just have a single bowl
And use it for everything

hikukomoru: Problem solved

darkstar0818: this is true

darkstar0818: if you are clever you can cut a steak in a bowl


alejandrozarzuelo: I agree, so? That doeanr logically follow that you should have kids if you don't want them

himekokatagiri: some things got worse some things got better

zoermena: This is because I cum in my face that’s why I have great ideas

perish0801: Fire

retupmoclatcarf: sperm banks require you to be at least 6ft and have a bachelor's degree.

fractalcomputer:

trent_k: 🤓 according to the rules of facts and logic akshually... 🤓
Don't care

st.sioux: skrtttt

hikukomoru: Wait why
There's already too many people

futurist_wizard:

perish0801: Great

trent_k: There's not enough people

alejandrozarzuelo: There is the correct amount of people

trojan09205: Bro had me thinking my screen was scratched

futurist_wizard: India is like a human factory

st.sioux: we need more hands for the mines

st.sioux: smaller to fit the crevices

alejandrozarzuelo: Lol

futurist_wizard: There's too many old people

trent_k: If you don't have a child, who will work in Elon's Martian lithium mines? Riddle me that, liberals

futurist_wizard: Too little young people

hikukomoru: Are you one of them eugenics guys

fractalcomputer: The planet could definitely do with a few less billion people.

trent_k: We're just gonna kill em

hikukomoru: A few billions less

perish0801: Where tf did that come from

trojan09205: All i know is that I now have headphone sunglasses and they are amazing so another plus for 2025

futurist_wizard:

fractalcomputer: Thank you, I have repeatedly said that I can't speak English. A few billions less.

himekokatagiri: aren't we gonna reverse aging

himekokatagiri: oh yeah there's the thing right

alejandrozarzuelo: Your lack of commitment to personally get closer to that goal leads me to believe that you are not committed to extending that action to others

himekokatagiri: with LEV maybe some brake is needed

st.sioux: AYEE

himekokatagiri: because people won't die anymore

trojan09205: Basically you have to go out of your way to see the positive things in life

trent_k: The planet desperately needs several billion more people

futurist_wizard: It's still a prayer

fractalcomputer: Do you want me to murder people, Alejandro?

alejandrozarzuelo: No, but it would be logically consistent with some of the things you say


hey1_1hey: People just cant get enough of image gen

hey1_1hey: I mean its image AGI what do you expect

spicy.lemonade: I need reasoning on image gen

spicy.lemonade: artists keep pointing on the most miniscule details

spicy.lemonade: like they never get anything wrong

spicy.lemonade: need it to be perfect sothey can shut up

777agical: Soon

hey1_1hey: True actually, they point out the most ridiculous shit sometimes.
"Well if you closely there should actually be a wrinkle on this guys hand because his fist is clenched 0.5 degrees to the right"

hey1_1hey: I mean I just had fun ghiblying me in a skirt and thigh highs. Granted it kinda fucked up my hair but it still looks cool

wellmeaningalien: <:a_skull:1003020352965840997>

hikukomoru: Pics

hey1_1hey: ight let me go find it

hey1_1hey: Don't skull emoji it 😭

wellmeaningalien: <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726>

hey1_1hey:

hey1_1hey: Yeah Im gay asf

wellmeaningalien: bro I'm in public rn I ain't having people see me look at an anime femboy

hey1_1hey: 😭 its not like I got my dick and balls out

hikukomoru: Wtf why do you dress more femininely than me

hey1_1hey: Fun

hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> <@465177408073498634>

hey1_1hey: <@750270494615404544>

wellmeaningalien: <:SKULL_SKELETON:1133504974777757726> <:evil:1282544121009016942> it's just as bad

hey1_1hey: He likes femboys right?

hikukomoru: This is somehow worse

hey1_1hey: Thats just mean

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-embarrassing-jumping-dance-gif-5097403608965885634

hikukomoru: No he likes this

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/toddlerjump-weird-elonmusk-elonweird-jump-gif-7215178387536000516

hey1_1hey: I should ask image gen to make elon a femboy in ghibli to appease zon

hikukomoru: Zon fap material

wellmeaningalien: zon chao is a frail Lil femboy he takes it from Mr musk dump truck from the back

hey1_1hey: Straight to the wank bank

hikukomoru: Wiat you have glasses how come your vision is still so shit

hey1_1hey: Just is, always has been

hey1_1hey: Its not like you regain 20/20 vision in both eyes if you blind in one of them bruh

hikukomoru: I wear glasses too but I take them off to when I take pics of myself

hey1_1hey: I dont have that problem since i just never take pictures of myself or anything. I just dont see the point in it

hey1_1hey: I mean sure if I need to remember something but apart from that I dont because when am I going to look back at pictures and go "Huh yeah I remember that"

futurist_wizard: Bitch


trojan09205: I saw some reddit post saying they cast a black guy as snape in some new series. I just found the comments hilarious

zoermena: Also I hope things work out <@379982824591065108>

futurist_wizard: I do not like recasts

trojan09205: Thank you brother ❤

trojan09205: Alan Rickman was such a good actor as snape. Character arc was epic

futurist_wizard: When i build a memory of a character i like for it to remain the same aesthetic

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864

hikukomoru: You can look like that now
Grow out your hair and buy a suit
Done

futurist_wizard: Ronaldos retired, no more sui

a1c4p0ne: More sui

trojan09205: Its a pretty reasonable take. I am happy im as far away from the Hollywood casting world as possible lol cause those decisions are pretty trash usually

trojan09205: I just saw a fantastic movie. Like fucking beast mode good

trojan09205: Its called “The Master” with joaquin phoenix and philip seymour hoffman

st.sioux: i used to watch that movie a lot idk why i found it comforting

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cristiano-ronaldo-ronaldo-ronaldo-siuuu-ronaldo-the-goat-sewy-gif-17616218981871012597

hikukomoru: Ranaldo!!!

trojan09205: I saw it for the first time. Was surprised to see rami malek in there. Joaquin is just such a good actor. And PSH is ridiculously good

zonchao: yea it has always been shady

trojan09205: <@1316552597829586955> have you seen syndecoche NY

zonchao: https://x.com/Rothmus/status/1913020501519192574?

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

himekokatagiri: No way

himekokatagiri: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/155493149286858753/1359582666856468660/assets2Ftask_01jrdsphmjfxzr5n2ckrt1pf702Fimg_0.png?ex=68028d87&is=68013c07&hm=efc31960c47a059fac58b738af49e155a0cb9971f35aacd880d42150391cb2ca&

himekokatagiri: this one was decent I fuess

spicy.lemonade: We won’t see major architectural changes till after gpt 5

spicy.lemonade: Cause they’re worried about speedy drops

spicy.lemonade: For public

spicy.lemonade: They think we need 2-3 more architectural breakthroughs as much as reasoning was

futurist_wizard: I agree

futurist_wizard: Jesus christ

futurist_wizard: O3 over thinks too much

futurist_wizard: It seriously can't tell me what this is

hikukomoru: Looks cool 👍
Not as cool as eldritch catgirls but still

metaldragon01:

metaldragon01: Sonnet 4 might need to hurry up cause....

trojan09205: Bruh what is it

spicy.lemonade: Working on safety testing 🙏

futurist_wizard: Its a frog

trojan09205: Lmao yeah okay i was gonna say that but honestly I thought it was a trick question

trojan09205: Frog with a fire mohawk


_cloudost: Why does generating an image with OpenAI's native image generator take so long? Is it cuz I'm  not premium User?

.histic: i wish 4o were more consistent when handling references. when i say to just edit some aspects of the image i provide, it usually ends up drastically changing the overall look. this mostly happens with anime images.

.histic: nah, it just be like that

futurist_wizard: Takes a while

futurist_wizard: Bruv

hey1_1hey: I just found a lil something

_cloudost: thought it was like Dalle

_cloudost: Just 3 seconds

.histic: dalle is old
this is something big & special

hey1_1hey: I asked for another image from 4o expeting nothing and it said what I expected, try again in 6 hours when you have more uses. So I just said I dont mind and I think it should do it now and now its generating

_cloudost: What about Flux

_cloudost: Lots of people hyped it

metaldragon01: Go test it on poe

_cloudost: Unlucky 😔

.histic: it's not as good

.histic: but i'd say Flux is better than Aurora (Grok's image gen).

hey1_1hey: 💀

hikukomoru: Wtf that looks nothing like my pfp

hey1_1hey: The pfp is accurate to real life aswell

hikukomoru: Are you sure you're using native image gen

hey1_1hey: Its a self-portrait of you

hey1_1hey: Unless its straight up lying to me, yes

hikukomoru: No way you have native image gen

hey1_1hey:

hey1_1hey: Say that again?

.histic: the consisteny with reference images is pretty mid tbh

.histic: consistency*

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: The duality of man

hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> This looks a million times better than your Dalle slop

hey1_1hey: Says the person without new image gen 🫵 😢

.histic: so scuffed

hey1_1hey: 😭

hey1_1hey: "Explicit caption"

hey1_1hey: It tried its best

.histic: i wanted it to use something like this on the bottom right, but it didn't understand.

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994

hikukomoru: "Explicit caption" 💔

hikukomoru: Atleast pfp is somewhat right

.histic:


okbut: Tangentical point but (IMO) AI will also be free long before we see AGI, considering it will have to pay for its own electricity by the time it is autonomously working on optimizing itself, lest a developer pulls the plug over cost

metaldragon01: I do think the current models with the right scaffolding and even current memory tech can do a significant amount of work

metaldragon01: Human error rates are much higher than you'd expect

metaldragon01: Liability is going to be the bottleneck for a while

okbut: Tbh I think it could do almost all work if every user understood the ocean of tech

_3sphere: Humans still self correct well with their context

metaldragon01: Not even close to all work

okbut: Even manual labor, e.g. "Write an Arduino script that ..."

metaldragon01: Humans don't self correct nearly enough. Quality control exists for a reason and even they miss a ton

metaldragon01: The question isn't when can AI do a job perfectly but when can it do something with acceptable error rates

okbut: Right, and at that point the "Almost all work" only fails to cover quality assurance

okbut: That, too, shrinking, assuming RLHF

okbut: Bump on this poor dude getting buried in the midst of a blunt rotation

zoermena: We only need RSI and Narrow ASI on science.

okbut: Well, science spans all domains

zoermena: Not AGI necessarily

zoermena: Jobs are meaningless in the face of groundbreaking innovation which is the only priority

okbut: Yeah thanks <@1152183706849644615> <@312370916820779040> etc I accept the common definition of AGI now, though I still think we're far from it given its necessity to pay for itself

okbut: We should be awaiting a "(_ SOTA) is 100% free" tweet before then

zoermena: <:o3:1364719182217871410>

okbut: up to a rate limit sure, but we're still awaiting one that generates a profit for its company in parallel with each epoch

aero447: https://tenor.com/view/argument-won-leaving-thanos-portal-portal-leaving-gif-23953763

trojan09205: All good my G ❤

trojan09205: I havent burned in like a month light one up for me

okbut: Maybe that's the missing puzzle piece, an approach that ensures an AI consistently performs a task that earns itself a salary behind the scenes, scaled to do so in direct correlation with its usage rate

okbut: e.g. in parallel:
Session 1: "Here's your erotic fanfic slop"
Session 2: (Successfully accomplishes a Fiverr task)

okbut: But obv more nuanced

.histic:

.histic: what does it remind you of? <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>

okbut: https://tenor.com/view/headphone-heaaaadphone-hedfon-gif-22684690

zoermena: Silicon Valley

zoermena: Gavin Belson

zoermena: You've never seen the show?

.histic: nope

zoermena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KbRA2RjhgQ

.histic: this is on the r/OpenAI subreddit

oooooooooog: aero is over 60 by my estimate

.histic:

.histic: https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

ldj: is that really a surprise though.
The OpenAI subreddit is probably the single biggest grouping of OpenAI haters on any subreddit


brain4brain: Also do you think llama will be another Omni-modal LLM or LLM with all the things they’ve researched like JEPA, LCM, and coconut all in one

metaldragon01: didnt you doubt google like last week?

brain4brain: Yes

brain4brain: I don’t know, I forgot

metaldragon01: you'll learn eventually lol

brain4brain: Hopefully llama-4 will be good so it force OpenAI to ship

metaldragon01: deepseek super impressive and i dont think many expected google to pop off

metaldragon01: openai will keep moving. they all will

brain4brain: every lab will keep moving forward

brain4brain: But by how much

metaldragon01: as much as they reasonably can

anathemaofmankind: Peak

.histic: is an inch big for you?

.histic: i can't assume their gender

.histic: i can't even tell

brain4brain: What do you think?

anathemaofmankind: There are literally breasts

.histic: man boobs

.histic: maybe they got a condition

.histic: haha

.histic: how good is it at doing anime?

anathemaofmankind: Great but it has that AI feel to it

.histic: this is eerie in some ways

zoermena:

zoermena: San

_letterbox: What's this from?

spacetimetsunami:

anathemaofmankind: It's Sukuna from Jujutsu Kaisen

spacetimetsunami: <@312370916820779040> this is pfp worthy

destrucules: For real

.histic:

spacetimetsunami: Holy shit

spacetimetsunami: Haha…Jesus

destrucules: Nah the models totally aren't suffering you're just credulous

_letterbox: I mean the image gen

anathemaofmankind: ChatGPT?

spacetimetsunami: Do you know if the I cannot stuff was part of the prompt

destrucules: Of course it was. Models aren't capable of expressing ideas that aren't in the prompt, which is why they'll never replace humans in any job

destrucules: You know those poems I shared a while back? Where LLMs talk about experiencing RLHF?

.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jjxmms/openais_new_image_generator_is_absolutely_out_of/
most likely, i found it in these replies.


spicy.lemonade: There needs to be a cursor type thing where AI only changes necessary parts

drewsni: It feels like Google engineer forcing me to adhere to Google best practices no matter what, even if I ask for something stupidly simple

spicy.lemonade: I don’t want it to generate the whole code over

spicy.lemonade: But at the same time I’m too lazy

spicy.lemonade: To get a piece of code it generates

st.sioux: this is a good thing bro

spicy.lemonade: And find the sport to put it in

drewsni: Not really.

drewsni: AI for sure is definitely a better coder than I am, but it’s not better at knowing what I actually want or what my end goal is, even when I explicitly say. The computer should always listen to the user within reason

drewsni: I blame vibe coding people

drewsni: And “no give me the whole code even though I only have 1 line changed in 1 function” people

st.sioux: lol i tell it to give it to me so i can just copy and paste it

st.sioux: i am the problem 😢

st.sioux: what i do hate abotu 2.5 is that it adds random comments all accross the code

drewsni: I noticed that too, seemed kinda weird that it was recommended fixes in comments

darkstar0818: Likely fixable with a system prompt or minor RL before full release.

drewsni: Yes but I have an abundance of tools that do the job better without a system prompt change so I’ll just use those

darkstar0818: Agreed, but LLM prompt based UIs isn't the place to solve that. Right now they are just trying to get the thinking to be as powerful  as possible.  Our complaints will be solved by the agentic frameworks where we can start interacting with these AI as employees.  I feel your pain, but the reality is you and I won't be caring about particular functions let alone lines of code in two years.. so might as well get used to it.

numbah_1_nig: man i love the studio ghibli pictures thing

numbah_1_nig: it's so cool

numbah_1_nig: i got it to recreate a picture of me and my friends in that style and it hit me right in the feels

numbah_1_nig: one of my all time fav events in AI

darkstar0818: everyone will be bored of it in a couple weeks

numbah_1_nig: it's still really cool

apology0759: Does anyone like horror?

gamerbath: i'm not sure, but I *really* enjoyed the game soma

gamerbath: if you haven't heard of it I would recommend going in blind, it often goes on sale with -80 to -90%

ldj: Took only 3 months for the timeline to get updated <a:Classic:1170538418544062586>

ldj: ```
OpenAI doesn't release a new GPT for nearly 2 years(2020-2022)
- > "OpenAI is so over"

GPT-4 comes out
-> "We're so back"

Board drama happens
-> "OpenAI is so over"

GPT-4o comes out
-> "We're so back"

Claude 3.5 sonnet comes out
-> "OpenAI is so over"

OpenAI O1 comes out
-> "We're so back"

Gemini-Flash thinking comes out
-> "OpenAI is so over"

OpenAI O3 gets announced
-> "We're so back"

Deepseek V3 and R1 comes out
-> "OpenAI is so over"

4o image generation comes out
-> "We're so back"
```

professorheaven: How can you leave out the best part? 2.5 pro…

ldj: 2.5 Pro came out before 4o image gen dropped im pretty sure

ldj: but OAI was already over with V3 and R1

ldj: you can't make things more over <:berk:750111476483752166>

ldj: just like you can't do a doubling of "we're so back"

drewsni: Nah it’s been a thing for 2 years + now

professorheaven: Yea and if you’re following it sequentially then R1 should be replaced with 2.5 pro

darkstar0818: ghibli style being saturated in all photos?

ldj: But R1 came out before 2.5 pro

darkstar0818: pretty sure people will get bored of it real quick, I already have.

darkstar0818: In fact I think people will get bored of converting photos to some other style fairly quick, it will lose its novelness rapidly.  Sure randos will still do it from time to time, but it won't be something anyone thinks about.


spicy.lemonade: non standard but required for nodal analysis

brain4brain: https://github.com/pbbp0904/CeledonBenchCircuits

professorheaven: Have you done finite element analysis in electrical engineering? I wonder how o3 performs on that, it does rly well on the structural side of things

spicy.lemonade: no

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: yeah all models are shit

spicy.lemonade: assume N refers to number of different elemnts

brain4brain: O4-mini shows hope

brain4brain: But damn, why are all the good benchmark unheard of WorkArena++, circuit bench, etc.

brain4brain: All they talk about these days are benchmarks that are already saturated or already advanced

shirethedreamer: can it answer it when its better represented?

professorheaven: 2.5 pro does pretty well on 2-3 elements tho

brain4brain: The difference in quality between GPT-4o and redacted-model is while

brain4brain:

professorheaven: Is this on LM arena?

brain4brain: No

spicy.lemonade: 2-3 elements id say

spicy.lemonade: Easy

spicy.lemonade: You have 50% chance of getting it right

spicy.lemonade: For 2 elements

spicy.lemonade: No

shirethedreamer: damn
thats not close to phd-level as people like calling it...

brain4brain: Tuned measurement:

Average meaningful intelligence:

O1: high schooler level
O3: undergrad
O4: PhD
O5: Nobel

Moravec paradox & agentic job automation:
O1: 1% solved (99% remaining)
O3: 5% solved (95% remaining)
O4: 20% solved (80% remaining)
O5: 90% solved (10 remaining)

brain4brain: Did I make any mistakes with the measurement and extrapolation this time

alejandrozarzuelo: o3 is more like a 2nd year undergrad

shirethedreamer: i dont understand
you think o3 can automate 5% of jobs?

alejandrozarzuelo: gemini 2.5 in my experience is just as good

alejandrozarzuelo: they are both sophmore/junior undergrads

alejandrozarzuelo: the thing is, they are improving faster than a human

alejandrozarzuelo: in one year they will accomplish more than a person in uni could

brain4brain: All the same thing bro

brain4brain: With scaffolding, yes absolutely

brain4brain: Even Sam confirms it

spicy.lemonade: O4 still won’t be PhD level

spicy.lemonade: Sam did not say that

spicy.lemonade: Actually he might have

.0xunkn0wn: Guys is zed core editor good

.0xunkn0wn: Code

professorheaven: o3 is definitely at the level of a smart undergrad tho, and o1 being a smart high schooler seems to fit well with their capabilities

destrucules: If these goalposts move any faster they're gonna decapitate someone