hikukomoru: Yes you fucking idiot

literallyvarane: Does this just straight > grok in most cases?

zonchao: probably

literallyvarane: It’s a slightly quirky model by the benches. Probably the best *overall* model, even if others beat it in specific domains.

darkstar0818: its not using expensive inference techniques like majority voting either..

literallyvarane: Until we have API pricing it’s a hard comp. 50 uses/day *is* 4.5 levels of access with a much smaller user base tbh.

metaldragon01: Sheeesh

darkstar0818: Its thinking tokens also appear to be very concise in testing so far, so I suspect on avereage it burns less tokens.

literallyvarane: So who knows how expensive this is.

literallyvarane: Google’s naming is such a shit show llololo

drewsni: Whether it’s because it just released or not it’s the slowest model I’ve benched so far

maintcrew: also google has TPUs and crazy internal infra and if even they cant offer it for cheap then it means its a morbidly obese maybe 1T+ model

darkstar0818: The card they released implied it should be relatively cheap compared to the comptition, so we will see.

literallyvarane: 2.0 Flash Thinking Experimental
2.0 Pro Experimental
~~2.0 Pro Thinking
2.5 Flash
2.5 Pro~~
2.5 Pro Experimental (that’s actually a thinking model)

literallyvarane: ?????

literallyvarane: Who names these things.

darkstar0818: When are they going to release the new flash thinking model or flash 2.5 🙂

darkstar0818: They said in the report card that they will no longer release non-thinking models.

literallyvarane: It very well could be 1T+ I assume grok and 4.5 are.

The real question for me is if this is based upon 2.0 Pro, or based upon an entirely different base model.

darkstar0818: so I am assuming going forward naming will just be version flash/pro

maintcrew: woaow (based based based based based)

literallyvarane:

darkstar0818: might as well drop flash and just have gemini 2.5 and gemini 2.5 pro

drewsni: So what happened with Gemini 2 pro

drewsni: Too retarded?

hikukomoru: Vibes were off

spicy.lemonade: this is hella experimental

spicy.lemonade: hallucinates alot

okbut: Never going to be worse than OAI

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: i gave it a screenshot of what wolfram alpha gave me

spicy.lemonade: and it said wolfram was wrong

joaoluz19: It's over

spicy.lemonade: it refused to awknowledge it was wrong

spicy.lemonade: and to change its answer

hikukomoru: I love Gemini so much
I am creaming
Sundar Pichai let me kiss you

spicy.lemonade: then it lied to me that it used wolfram

joaoluz19: I thought you were criticizing the vibes

spicy.lemonade: bro was is gemini gaslighting me

i_like_over_9000_turtles: Same as most people, Turing test confirmed!


spicy.lemonade: saying sam lied shows you lost the plot

spicy.lemonade: and youre only concerened with having a super smart tool

spicy.lemonade: the mission of openAI is to build agi

spicy.lemonade: not coding tool

spicy.lemonade: lol

st.sioux:

st.sioux: this is like 90% of the people here

spicy.lemonade: wish 4.5 had higher rate limits

st.sioux: > All this means humans were picking up on things such as sociability rather than intelligence, leading Jones and Bergen to conclude that "Fundamentally, the Turing test is not a direct test of intelligence, but a test of humanlikeness."

st.sioux: I agree with this tbh

tall_chap1: please report back

spicy.lemonade: it helped me articulate e "I want you back" voice message to my ex with minimal stuttering

spicy.lemonade: 💀

fractalcomputer: Interesting.

spicy.lemonade: results pending

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: shit

spicy.lemonade: 2.5 mins

spicy.lemonade: what did i even say

st.sioux: rip bozo

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: I didnt wanna send it at night

spicy.lemonade: cause she would think

spicy.lemonade: "this boy is horny"

st.sioux: drunk text

st.sioux: yea

spicy.lemonade: I dont want plausible deniability

spicy.lemonade: the main issue was me being a bit unserious

spicy.lemonade: apparemtly

spicy.lemonade: from her point of view

spicy.lemonade: if this fails i blame 4.5

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/flirt-whose-line-is-it-anyway-you-find-me-very-attractive-seduce-ryan-stiles-gif-5458916

spicy.lemonade: lol the chatlog

spicy.lemonade: too emberasing to post

fractalcomputer: It has been an interesting journey to witness the community transforming from the general transhumanist space to something approximating an anxious Messiah cult.

st.sioux: sheesh

fractalcomputer: The general sentiment has shifted from augmenting oneself to something more than human in a universe with no limits to trembling in anticipation of human obsolescence.

spicy.lemonade: its always been the second

fractalcomputer: No?


nsec: if u want

alejandrozarzuelo: can it be an enemy?

alejandrozarzuelo: can it be my mom?

futurist_wizard: ???

aero447: Oh that's so much better dude.

alejandrozarzuelo: thinking about it it would probably be a surgeon

aero447: Really.

nsec: no but it can be the enemy of ur enemy

futurist_wizard: You have to use a butcher's knife to cleave off your dick

alejandrozarzuelo: hmmm i might do it, the singularity would give me a better dick, besides its not like i would use it much in the near future

nsec: yall assuming yall getting a better dicc

nsec: what if it gives u a bussy

alejandrozarzuelo: would need to improve my bottoming skills then i guess

nsec: <:blu:818162243950084157>

alejandrozarzuelo: improvise, adapt, overcome

futurist_wizard: They already have that

nsec: FRONT BUS

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, i dont like being told what to do, so yes i hope i can have it back

nsec: coward

futurist_wizard: Bottoms are lazy af and barely do anything anyway

nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>

zoermena: YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT LOOKS LIKE

alejandrozarzuelo: lmao

nsec: singularity 1 year

alejandrozarzuelo: thats not true and no man who has fucked a man or been fucked by one correctly knows it

futurist_wizard: Cut my cock off just to be turned into grey goo..

nsec: think of the lives ur saving

hikukomoru: You’ve never been with a powerbottom

nsec: u cowards

futurist_wizard: I have never sex the man yet

alejandrozarzuelo: no need to be a power bottom, just a mildly competent one

alejandrozarzuelo: to be honest, some bottoms really do nothing

alejandrozarzuelo: but those are bad ones

alejandrozarzuelo: like bad tops

alejandrozarzuelo: there are people who dont take sex seriously

hikukomoru: Cut off cock just to live the rest of ur life in FDVR

himekokatagiri: helloooo

himekokatagiri: what's up

alejandrozarzuelo: thats what happens with people i guess, some put in their best every time and some dont

himekokatagiri: it is I himeko


alejandrozarzuelo: okok srry

wolf3404: https://fxtwitter.com/niccruzpatane/status/1913252185716003295

wolf3404: Literally nothing happened in 100 years

alejandrozarzuelo: the cybertruck as an example of modern car tech is simply horrible

literallyvarane: I mean it’s probably a fair example, but cars in general shouldn’t be the example at all.

literallyvarane: Give me a slide rule and an H100

wolf3404: you could argue it's uglier, but more importantly it's largely similar in form and functionality

alejandrozarzuelo: the reason why i say so is because the cybertruck is an outlier and an extreme exception of 2025 cars, any other EV sedan would be a much better comparison

alejandrozarzuelo: is it tho

wolf3404: Nothing happens bro been right for a century

literallyvarane: I think the difference between a cybrertruck and any other ev is 95% cosmetic

alejandrozarzuelo: most of it is in the mass, the cybertruck is so big it cannot be bought in the largest and third largest economies in the world under the category of a "car"

literallyvarane: It’s literally not a car tho it’s a truck.

literallyvarane: But the distinction between car/truck probably didn’t exist in the model T era

alejandrozarzuelo: ok, regular people in these two economies cannot buy them

literallyvarane: And *technically* the gap there is well over 100 years so

literallyvarane: It’s like 120 I think?

literallyvarane: So really a car from 2005 is probably a better comp

wolf3404: 100 years to go from driving a car to.... driving a car

alejandrozarzuelo: the best selling EV was the tesla Y, i hate tesla but it is a MUCH better comparison with the T-ford

literallyvarane: Forest for the trees

wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah no

you can call both of them cars the same way that you can call a rotary phone and a samsung galaxy phones

alejandrozarzuelo: or the same way you can call papyrus and modern paper paper

alejandrozarzuelo: they are called the same but they are fundamentally different concepts and products

literallyvarane: Feel like you’d get mad at the wright brothers vs space shuttle comp too lol

alejandrozarzuelo: modern cars are not just more powerful, efficient, use different fuels and are faster

most importantly they are several orders of magnitude safer

literallyvarane: The point isn’t that it’s the closest possible comp lolol

literallyvarane: The point is that the second one exist at all.

alejandrozarzuelo: my point is that saying that nothing has happened in 100 years because we call the same thing two different products

alejandrozarzuelo: is wrong

wolf3404: exactly

theaiguy69420_89814: I was thinking about an AI startup idwa

theaiguy69420_89814: How about a fast food joint with no human employees

theaiguy69420_89814: All humanoids

alejandrozarzuelo: "oh barely anything has happened in over 100 years because look, we used computers in 1880 and we still use them today"

theaiguy69420_89814: I wonder how fast and cheap we could get a mcdouble

literallyvarane: Not much cheaper probably

literallyvarane: Muh maintenance and cleanliness

theaiguy69420_89814: Robots can clean the machinery, no?


hey1_1hey: I have tried many a time

hikukomoru: Lmao npc

hikukomoru: Keep /pol/ bullshit in /pol/ pls

.wolfnacht: not being able to imagine anything = Aphantasia

futurist_wizard:

oooooooooog: i cant visualize in my eye but i can in my brain, i don't really get eyeball visualization at all lol

hey1_1hey: If I conciously try and image something in my head but then if I let my mind wonder I forget I have eyes and just think.

That sounds like schziophrenia

hey1_1hey: I promise its not

.wolfnacht: it's literally porn now and neckbears humping the aryan dick theory.

oooooooooog: it does not haha

fractalcomputer: I sometimes cannot distinguish my imagination or memories from reality.

oooooooooog: yeah once i thoguht i was a wizard for like an hour

hey1_1hey: I could image the soultion to all of lifes problems if I could imagine things (trust)

hikukomoru: If /pol/ is just porn then it sounds like it's improved

oooooooooog: 9th circle ✅

destrucules: I been told y'all

hey1_1hey: How bruh

hikukomoru: I can't stop seeing things in my minds eye
It's a constant stream of information

.wolfnacht: i can also imagine, people in front of me...but only when i'm really tired or dizzy, it was really worse during lockdown, i was in my room talking with my highschool friends as they were there, living in good memories.

hey1_1hey: I lose touch with reality for 2-3 mins at a time and I just think and I stop thinking when something happnes or my name is called but by that point we are on a completly different topic

oooooooooog: well, i was laying down in bed and kept seeing dots on my ceiling and thought that was the mana gathering, i had just stayed up like 24 hours reading a bunch of shitty manhwas, that's why

fractalcomputer: This can hardly be attributed as a specific prediction of yours.

hikukomoru: I always believed you 👆

futurist_wizard: Constant stream of delusions

st.sioux: straight to the gulag

hey1_1hey: Talk about "Back in my day" vibes 😭. In lockdown I just talked to my friends and did not do any work

hikukomoru:

futurist_wizard: Im feeling extra eepy today

ailoveyoom: Idk why but I'm kinda surprised this came from Google

hey1_1hey: Sleep deprevaiation moment

futurist_wizard: The singularity will remove eepy

hey1_1hey: BJ (bryan johnson) will not be happy

.wolfnacht: i wish my prefrontal cortex was better (i get stuck during arguments alot) unfortunately my subconcious does all the heavy lifting, literally my problems get solved during daydreaming or dreams.

.wolfnacht: dats why i need AI

hikukomoru: FDVR Gulag 🔥 🔥

.wolfnacht: to think for me in present moment

oooooooooog: it wasn't sleep deprivation, it was more just that i had passed out and then woke up again, i think

hikukomoru: Did you stay up all night generating images with 4o

hey1_1hey: I do this weird thing with maths I've noticed where If I keep repeating the first step of the problem in my head I will suddenly get the answer and write it down. I have no clue how it works tho

.wolfnacht: same...i wish we had even had gpt 3.5 in lockdown, i would be getting scoring 99% in high school.


hey1_1hey: That means kill or beat up

hey1_1hey: Depending on context

futurist_wizard: Do you sound welsh

hey1_1hey: No not even slightly

futurist_wizard: Splash means stab

hey1_1hey: Indeed

hey1_1hey: You can get stabbed non fattaly

futurist_wizard: Stab is not beating someone up

hey1_1hey: People really over do it here. Usually people over here are gonna stab you like 50 fucking times its crazy

hey1_1hey: Over here it is lmao

technocake.: north mid or south?

hey1_1hey: Doesn't matter. You can go everywhere and its all a bit fucked up

futurist_wizard: There are some nice places

hey1_1hey: I've noticed people tend to get really confused if you just say no to getting stabbed though. I remember someone tried to jump me after school with a knife because I told them they were a short ass and I was like "Wait bro hold on nah cant do that yeah, I gotta go, alright man ta"

hey1_1hey: And just walked of

hey1_1hey: Got any in mind?

hey1_1hey: Cardiff and Swansea are alright tbf

futurist_wizard: Bath, Cambridge, Brighton, oxford, West London, most of Surrey

hey1_1hey: bath 😭

hey1_1hey: Not bath bro

hey1_1hey: Thats such a shit hole

futurist_wizard: Bath is full of posh souls isn't it?

hey1_1hey: Rich, old, really racist dickheads

hey1_1hey: So yeah about right

technocake.: Brighton is great

hey1_1hey: Yeah brighton is nice

technocake.: no complaints

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Omfg

futurist_wizard: Cardiff is dangerous i thought

spicy.lemonade: I hate  normies

futurist_wizard: Thats where most welsh crime is

hey1_1hey: Eh its alright

hey1_1hey: I've only been mugged twice there

futurist_wizard: I've nearly been robbed

spicy.lemonade:

hey1_1hey: I usually just say no and walk off

hey1_1hey: Works quite well

spicy.lemonade: All they know is 4o mini

spicy.lemonade: Are they stupid


zoermena: I also ended up getting pizza

futurist_wizard: Wow it's fucked it up already

futurist_wizard: Doomer era

futurist_wizard: At least it can generate wacky images

hikukomoru: You didn't get me any
what a shame

zoermena: I actually was an idiot and put my first delivery on the wrong address so I payed twice for the pizza. In theory that could’ve been for you but you live on the other side of the world.

hikukomoru: Why didn't the pizza guy just take a plane to deliver my pizza? Is he stupid?

zoermena: Yes

hikukomoru:

futurist_wizard: I do not tink the visual intelligence has increased

futurist_wizard: Fuck o3

.wolfnacht: bro really tried to look like 60s ads

futurist_wizard: Bottom right is hot

.wolfnacht: nah this one's more

futurist_wizard: It made her face worse

hikukomoru: 60s femboy 🥵

futurist_wizard: I have a thing for gingers

st.sioux: eeek

brain4brain: Would you guys say Gemini-2.5-pro is college student level or PhD level, and would you say o3 is college level or PhD level?

hikukomoru: Anime girl squeal sound

zonchao: https://x.com/grok/status/1912670182012801156

zoermena: It was actually unprompted which is funnier

spicy.lemonade: 2.5 has better visual reasoning than o3 and o4mini

spicy.lemonade: 💀

metaldragon01: Google has the best vision models still I think

spicy.lemonade: yeah

spicy.lemonade: openAI just played catchup

metaldragon01: I've heard o4 has better vision than o3

metaldragon01: Should test

spicy.lemonade: and the way openAI does vision is bruteforcey

spicy.lemonade: like

spicy.lemonade: gross

spicy.lemonade: croping

spicy.lemonade: and zooming

spicy.lemonade: yikes

metaldragon01: Whatever works I don't judge

spicy.lemonade: google is more uniform and integrated into model

rayanquitplayin: PhD

spicy.lemonade: depends on subject

darkstar0818: I think the performance nuances between models is actually increasing, not decreasing.


joaoluz19: Me too brother in ASI

spicy.lemonade: 4.5 is not 10x 4o

spicy.lemonade: 4.5 is 3x 4o

spicy.lemonade: as stated on epochAI website

spicy.lemonade: deepseek can only realy rely on efficiency gains

spicy.lemonade: which come from waiting

spicy.lemonade: for a proof of concept from people who had the compute to test

spicy.lemonade: they will unironically fit the stereotype of copying

himekokatagiri: Okay I read this guy's post history he's a lunatic

himekokatagiri: Running a demoralization op

joaoluz19: How exactly?

professorheaven: That’s complete bullshit, the pricing disproves that

spicy.lemonade: no

spicy.lemonade: pricing doesnt prove that at all

spicy.lemonade: price/= scale

spicy.lemonade: this is very obvious if you look at scale of gpt 3

spicy.lemonade: and 3.5

spicy.lemonade: which costs more than models today

spicy.lemonade: og gpt 4 costed like 65$ per mil token

professorheaven: Efficiency lowers prices, but 4.5 had the same efficiency gains plus more over 4o so why was it remarkably more expensive? Explain that pls

spicy.lemonade: no

spicy.lemonade: not how it works

spicy.lemonade: we have no reason to assume what they did for a new model and the efficiency gains for one

spicy.lemonade: would work for another

spicy.lemonade: 4.5 began before 4o

spicy.lemonade: btw

spicy.lemonade: 4o had alot of stuff from what they learned during 4.5 training

spicy.lemonade: as they mentioned in the talk

professorheaven: Yea and came out a whole year afterwards, if pre-training is a 3 month process then they had 9 months to work on efficient post training methods. You can’t seriously believe that 4.5 did not carry over their work on efficiency. I just feel like you need to make some pretty insane assumptions to reach your conclusion

spicy.lemonade: how

spicy.lemonade: they data is right there

spicy.lemonade: they already analyzed the scale

spicy.lemonade: its 3x

professorheaven: Show me data that indicates it’s 3x over 4o

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: 6e25 vs 2e25

professorheaven: But 4o is not bigger than 4, if anything it’s smaller

professorheaven: Because of efficiency gains it’s able to match performance despite less flops

professorheaven: So 4.5 is still 10x over 4o

spicy.lemonade:


hey1_1hey: Amoung other things

spicy.lemonade: wait

spicy.lemonade: i wonder if it can play chess

spicy.lemonade: or do arc agi

spicy.lemonade: native

spicy.lemonade: 🤔

drewsni: only one way to find out

hey1_1hey: Hmm...

drewsni: wow

spicy.lemonade: arc agi native would be a good ass test

maintcrew: can you make it gen a half full one

maintcrew: but have the top half half full

maintcrew: like physically impossible

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/feel-the-agi-asi-agi-ai-openai-gif-14149800253325173950

drewsni: the quality is so insane

spicy.lemonade: test with chess

wellmeaningalien: yo is this 4o?

drewsni: yes

spicy.lemonade: also do you live on east or west coast?

wellmeaningalien: thats actually crazy how does it nail the style so well

hey1_1hey: I think the 300 days was worth the wait

spicy.lemonade: how has it not rolled out to me yet

hey1_1hey: Wait, you have access right?

drewsni: everyone has access if you have plus

drewsni: just go to sora website and switch to image gen

hey1_1hey: I am not a paypig sadly

drewsni: im not either hehe haha

_cloudost: Gemini 2.5 is pretty good at writing

st.sioux: are you unemployed

st.sioux: living off of mushroom foraging

drewsni: no luck with this one

.wolfnacht: it made my catgirl android wife, angry at me and she's now contemplating the meaning of existence.

spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppets-muppet-angry-gif-4979240094074316588

.wolfnacht: Also,

spicy.lemonade: ban rollouts

spicy.lemonade: release all at once

.wolfnacht: do rate limits really work ?

joaoluz19: O.o

drewsni: just make a paid account and you dont have rate limits and its still free

.wolfnacht: be prepared for a whole month of winter now.


hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Danserk just passed away 💔

wellmeaningalien: not too surprised

wellmeaningalien: but shame

wellmeaningalien: i mean wasnt he sort of participative in those very low quality discussions tho lol

hikukomoru: I guess that autism argument got to him

precariousworlds.: Perhaps we need a specific channel to quarantine retards

precariousworlds.: Me included

kevinnoodles: all conversations devolve over time on dicord

kevinnoodles: ive felt this

wellmeaningalien: theres like a non retard channel its completely dead tho

precariousworlds.: it's an inevitability

futurist_wizard: Wtf is there to talk about regarding ai

wellmeaningalien: siev's server is still mostly on topic about ai tbh

.wolfnacht: there was a graph

⬆ time spend on discord, ⤴  chances of becoming a homosexual.

wellmeaningalien: total siev victory

futurist_wizard: Current events are trumpy, israel, and other autism topics

wellmeaningalien: aaand also i never talk there sooo

wellmeaningalien: talking about trump and israel all the time doesnt it get tiring as shit

kevinnoodles: thats not what devolve means.

kevinnoodles: just so we're clear.

futurist_wizard: Nobody has anything to say about AI and yet complains when chat devolves into autism

kevinnoodles: I just talked about AI

kevinnoodles: i said im worried it's gonna make people dumb

hikukomoru: Yeah, turning gay is more like evolving

futurist_wizard: Your pfp is more normie now

futurist_wizard:

precariousworlds.: There are much greater consequences to focus on IMO
The bigger issue is not that we become dumb, but that we become irrelevant to an ASI, which would cause that

kevinnoodles: i forget which malcolm gladwell/nicholas carr book it was but it talked about how autopilot on planes was erroding basic skills of pilots so the rise in autopilot was leading to a rise in stupid plane crashes

kevinnoodles: several 747's have crashed in recent years because the pilot stalled the plane.

precariousworlds.: evolving by reducing your chances of genetic success..?

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: this is a horrible graph

futurist_wizard: Genetic success is for apes

kevinnoodles: my thing is that we should be using AI to improve the intelligence of humans and the skill of humans

spicy.lemonade: horrible benchmark

spicy.lemonade: why is it binary

precariousworlds.: Ahreed

spicy.lemonade: why didnt they make it color scaled

spicy.lemonade: or label

precariousworlds.: Based


hey1_1hey: Out of anyone here you are the most likely to be a schizophrenic hallucination of mine.

hikukomoru: Today? That's how I usually am
Cmon you know this

hey1_1hey: Got me there, theres the edge lord (you) then theres the *edge* lord mich mach and then theres theres the **edge** lord zon

zoermena: 👀

hikukomoru: Looks like I live in your mind rent free

hey1_1hey: You better start paying rent buddy. Can't be a free loader in my head or another hallucination will take over who is willing to pay

hikukomoru:

hikukomoru: I showed you my Ghibli
Now show me yours

zoermena: Granted I did not ask for it 🤷🏻♂

zoermena: Simply a random event

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/clash-royal-goblin-emotes-evil-laugh-manigance-gif-12801850

hey1_1hey: Once I am outside, sure

hikukomoru: So never then

hey1_1hey: Those happen, you rolled well on the d20 and now you've got a random NPC encounter

hikukomoru: Great
I didn't even want to see your ugly mug

hey1_1hey: You don't have to see it yanno. I can just DM it to everyone who wants to <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hikukomoru: Don't worry I don't think anyone else wants to see it either 🫶

hikukomoru: You could just post some random mushroom adn I'd believe it was you

hey1_1hey: That was good, coming from you atleast.

zoermena: Done

hikukomoru: I saw something

hikukomoru: For a second

hey1_1hey: I could do that, no one would think otherwise aswell

hikukomoru: What wasthat

zoermena: What you asked for

hey1_1hey: Guy eating a pizza in ghibli

hikukomoru: That's not fair

memlaswaif: <:rempeek:825752804802166874>

zoermena: But it’s secure

hikukomoru:

hey1_1hey: Whats not fair?

zoermena: Im a cute little fucker

zoermena: Jk

hikukomoru: Yeah I bet you are

hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362> are you here

ailoveyoom: Yes 😇

hey1_1hey: Mich mach needs a mich mach ping to ping us about all the hot people hes finds online

hikukomoru: Hey 🫦 🫦 (with rizz)

hey1_1hey: I should put that in the suggestion box

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/eww-gif-8985768279355337139


spacetimetsunami: Hard for me to conceptualize, missing info I think

.wolfnacht: i hate the new rate limits on grok...btw

.wolfnacht: and grok 3 feels more dumb than before

clevermoniker: quanted up

st.sioux: dont say mean stuff... elon don't like it

.wolfnacht: i mean instruction following is pretty shit than launch now.

ldj: I'm sticking with my Tier 1 HLSI predictions still, as I think they're still very consistent with the date here:

```
Knowledge work specific Tier 1 HLSI:
- 50% confidence in July 2026 or sooner.
- 80% confidence in Jan 2028 or sooner.

Full Tier 1 HLSI :
- 50% confidence in Jan 2027 or sooner.
- 80% confidence in Jan 2029 or sooner.
```

Reminder of what Tier 1 is:

```
Tier 1 HLSI: Capable of doing 50% of jobs that exist in the year 2020, at least as good as the average person in those jobs, as cost efficient as the people in those jobs.

- *Ignore aspects of occupations/jobs for which being a human is intrinsically advantageous, for example you might be chosen as a jury member regardless of your actual ability or track record for judgement, simply because you're human.*
- *Think about when these milestones would exist and would be publicly known, not when they're adopted.*
- *The term "jobs" used here is including all jobs including both physical and remote work jobs.*
```

.wolfnacht: u'll tell it in points about everything, and what to do. still it fails

.wolfnacht: except generating explicit smut ideas. it's of no use rn.

spicy.lemonade: both physical and remote<:ez:1136267305521774634>

spicy.lemonade: ooooouu

clevermoniker: full means with physical? <:shockedpikachu:1187466564551852175>

spicy.lemonade: what does knowledge work hsli 1 mean?

spicy.lemonade: 50% of knowledge work

spicy.lemonade: or all

spicy.lemonade: I feel 2028 would be more than 50% of all knowledge work

spicy.lemonade: maybe 80+

spicy.lemonade: i mean doesnt agi gaurantee this

ldj: All of knowledge work would be tier 3 knowledge work.

ldj: 99% of knowledge work as good as the average person would be tier 2 knowledge work

ldj: 50% of knowledge work as good as the average, would be tier 1 knowledge work

clevermoniker: why is tier 2 99% and not 80% or 90% etc?

brain4brain: What’s your probability prediction for other tier like tier 2 and 3?

ldj: Because that's just what I chose it to be <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
and because I believed that peoples timeline differences between the average of 50% and the average of 99%, would be similar to peoples timeline differences of the average of 99% versus 100% of 100%

ldj: and that hypothesis seemed to turn out correct

ldj:

brain4brain: How about knowledge work only probability prediction?

clevermoniker: I sure hope that tier 3 happens by 50%<:LDJ:1236341277826482226>

spicy.lemonade: whats your tier 3 knowledge work prediction

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: feb 10th 1996

spicy.lemonade: deep blue beat gary kasparov

spicy.lemonade: gary kept saying it would never happen

spicy.lemonade: AI cantr beat human

spicy.lemonade: all chess players were coping

spicy.lemonade: like today

brain4brain: The middle guy is just amazed

ldj: Here is a way to visualize it that might be more helpful too.
The lines are underlying roughly the same year in time

spicy.lemonade: this happesn every single time

spicy.lemonade: its like no one can see the trend


technocake.: welsh though 🤢

technocake.: jk i love the welsh

technocake.: there are a few more

hikukomoru: I know an extra Britisher in here

technocake.: I'm not sure if Hill is the same guy who used to have a dif name

zoermena: Yeah he had another name didn’t he

hikukomoru: And a Clint Eastwood pfp

technocake.: I think hes the same guy but no idea what his name used to be

technocake.: yeah is that Hill?

technocake.: tbf you may be the only mexican

zoermena: That we know of 👀

zoermena: But if we want to get into the specifics it’s more unlikely than not that people who don’t speak English aren’t as aware of the singularity or don’t get much content about it. Most of it is US centered.

zoermena: Or rather don’t speak English as much

technocake.: true tbf

zoermena: That’s why cultures can be vastly different

technocake.: its def english speaking skewed, but you all are fluent anyway

memlaswaif: do chinese people speak english

technocake.: not frequently

st.sioux: no its prohibited by the geneva convention

zoermena: Perhaps not all of them but yes I do feel like it’s also about being proactive in consuming content in English

.histic: <@1316552597829586955> give me an idea to use deep research 4

hikukomoru: a small minorty

technocake.: but there are enough chinese people that there are loads who do

joaoluz19: It's over

st.sioux: for what? like an app or something?

memlaswaif: I have only met like 3 chinese dude online all of them speak broken english

.histic: i'm bored af, i just want to use my 10 deep research uses for random stuff

hikukomoru:

.histic: do you've 4o img access?

hikukomoru: I'm not a paypig so no

technocake.: some on here are shelling out 200 a month for pro

.histic: i wonder what happend to lisan.
he barely talks here.

zoermena: At this point there’s not a lot of use case for pro beyond more deep research

hikukomoru: I think I scared him

technocake.: busy with work, life?

hikukomoru: 🥀

.histic: probably

st.sioux: Comparative energy analysis of AI-generated output vs. traditional human labor and industry alternatives

zoermena: It’s been a heavy week in AI

.histic: i've no clue what that means tbh, but word-for-word?


ailoveyoom: OpenGoThroatingAI

trent_k: 🤯

spicy.lemonade: openAI and anthropoc merge probably wouldn't cause that much of a slowdown tho

literallyvarane: AlphathropicAI

drewsni: wtf that looks like me??????????????

spicy.lemonade: Considering anthropic is mostly openAI descents

literallyvarane: OpenAlphaThropic

trent_k: The whole point of Anthropic was they split off from openai. Why would they ever merge

hikukomoru: Alenjandro vibes

spicy.lemonade: This is a fake scenario

metaldragon01: So they can focus on safety and not racing

trent_k: Wtf is ur new profile pic??? 😡

literallyvarane: National security, or one fails and gets acquired

zonchao: jd

metaldragon01: I don't see them staying ahead of both google and deepseek

hikukomoru: You don't like it?

trent_k: Neither Amodei or Altman would ever give up their chance to be the winner

trent_k: No

drewsni: ill put this on my site "worldsgayestman.com"

hikukomoru: Why
are you gay like Alejandro too

trent_k: Uncanny valley type shit

trent_k: Like looking at a corpse

hikukomoru: It's a cute doll

hey1_1hey: I am back with my autism food

hey1_1hey: "cute"

st.sioux: what the fuck

ailoveyoom: Is it Komoru?

hikukomoru: Stop reacting with skull emoji
Why yall hating on my dolls

hey1_1hey: I wouldn't eat Komoru if you paid me, granted I am not a canabal but still

hikukomoru: I would give you food poisoning

trent_k: Tf

hey1_1hey: Thought so, personality is raw asf

zonchao: https://x.com/markgurman/status/1904579710928945213? 💀💀💀💀💀

_3sphere: uncanny valley indeed

_3sphere: anime girls were meant to stay virtual

joaoluz19: Saw it on twitter lol

spicy.lemonade: metaverse wwdc

joaoluz19: Trust me bro

drewsni: obv fake lol

user.not.using: https://x.com/roramora0/status/1904583408237371575


hikukomoru: It's good

a1c4p0ne:

srirachamayosauce: so o4-mini replaces o3-mini hence the rate limit is still 150/day?

a1c4p0ne: O3 will beat Pokémon <:ez:1136267305521774634>

anathemaofmankind: One more step to AGI

a1c4p0ne: 💯

a1c4p0ne:

return_to_monke1_33974: will images be used as training data from now on?

spicy.lemonade: werent they always

a1c4p0ne: Yessirr

callmepyro: OpenAI not being compute constrained means they can scrape YouTube and Maps' full corpus and train off that, completely eliminating Google's advantage

joaoluz19: O3 the 4.5 of reasoning lol

callmepyro: They can further leverage this high compute to train off of their search data. Once they launch their X clone they will completely eclipse grok in a matter of weeks

callmepyro: It shouldn't take long for OpenAI to climb the ranks to most used website in the world, overtaking everyone else before 2026

trey6033: They don't have unlimited compute, and certainly not as much as Google.  But yes they have a lot

callmepyro: When Google has to shut down due to lack of revenue from collapsing search usage, OpenAI will be the only game in town

callmepyro: If you have Google stock I would cash out now, best price its ever going to be

return_to_monke1_33974: where is the wall
i miss him 😭

return_to_monke1_33974:

joaoluz19: https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/1870117249371017619

zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>

retrerox: Guys

retrerox: Do not buy LIDL salads

retrerox: taste like shit 😭

zoermena: Oh god

zoermena:

zoermena: It’s here

fractalcomputer: Lidl in general is only to be trusted in matters of cheap food.

a1c4p0ne: Charge when it gets to 1%

spicy.lemonade: ITS TIME

zoermena: Can’t I’m in the office

spicy.lemonade: time to test

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

spicy.lemonade: idek what i should ask first

a1c4p0ne: Anything that previous models failed

spicy.lemonade: make minecraft clone in one shot ig

a1c4p0ne: Do visual puzzles

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

spicy.lemonade: gonna test on janestreet puzzle

spicy.lemonade:


drewsni: It was really really bad, like meta music gen 2023 bad

spicy.lemonade: im sure its better

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: or else wouldnt release

spicy.lemonade: google likes to keep stuff in experimental

st.sioux: why would they showcase shit audio in their opening keynote

wellmeaningalien: i bet you most of the people seeing it were probably impressed

retrerox: Any ltlr?

hikukomoru: Google is forcing them to clap

hikukomoru: Putting them at gunpoint

st.sioux: clap or i fire you

retrerox: is google AI good or poop?

wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 flash pretty good performance small thinking model

_cloudost: Cuz theree are undercover OPENAI agents in Google that try to give google's products a bad impression

wellmeaningalien: new ai inference chip probably better than B200

hikukomoru: It's dogshit
Only good thing is their new chip

wellmeaningalien: and new agent thingamajig

wellmeaningalien: the rest is kinda eh

st.sioux: its good for enterprise

_cloudost: Veo 2 ain't great?

st.sioux: actually kinda huge

retrerox: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

hikukomoru: Not that good

retrerox: Hype machine is down

hikukomoru: Same with text to music

wellmeaningalien: i think youre asking too much rn sunder pichai aint gonna suck off and most of this isnt for consumers

_cloudost: U have Veo 2 ?

_cloudost: Yet

wellmeaningalien: they still have a bunch of unreleased models lol

retrerox: I didnt test it out

wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.0 and gemini 2.5 were both one off random announcements

retrerox: how do i test if i have if i have VEO2?

wellmeaningalien: you go to gemini and look or veo 2 in the models tab

hikukomoru: YOu have gemini advanced and don't know how to use it?

retrerox: No

st.sioux: its in vertex ai

st.sioux: not in gemini

retrerox: My company pay's for it

hikukomoru: Subscription wasted on you
Give it to me

retrerox: Isnt gemini advanced like 20 or 25 dollars a month?


himekokatagiri: look at these suckers

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: Brain the size of the universe and the guys thinking about self driving cars

spacetimetsunami: I mean I got o4 to strongly believe that ASI happens in 2030ish so

spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU

spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdbVtZIn9IM

spicy.lemonade: everyone thinks 2027

spicy.lemonade: agi 2027

otub: demis says 2030s

spacetimetsunami: It could be possible if youre defining AGI as models that are very capable of automating large portions of cognitive labor, but I dont think AI systems will have the most generality they will ever have in 2027. Probably 2030 for that, idek

spicy.lemonade: demis said 2030

spicy.lemonade: not 2030s

spicy.lemonade: also

otub: 5-10 years

spicy.lemonade: no

spicy.lemonade: they shortened

spicy.lemonade: did you read the new deepmind paper

spicy.lemonade: they said agi possible by 2030

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1914360481051038021?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: "BY 2030"

spicy.lemonade: demis shortened his timelines

himekokatagiri: I agree with the 2029-30 timeline

spicy.lemonade: late 2027<:redemption:1136265386984222771>

a1c4p0ne: No AGI this year or next year

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

spicy.lemonade: agreed

spicy.lemonade: 2027+

spicy.lemonade: its anyones game

spicy.lemonade: from there

brain4brain: Thats 10 months ago, his timeline really depends on if he sees o1 internally at the time when he wrote situational awareness

spicy.lemonade: he did

spicy.lemonade: he talks about ttc here

brain4brain: Why does this looks so fake bro

a1c4p0ne: https://scitechdaily.com/when-machines-dream-ai-designs-strange-new-tools-to-listen-to-the-cosmos/

brain4brain: I don’t really like Demis’s timeline, he is always jumping between 3 years (2027) and 10 years (2035)

a1c4p0ne: It’s real

brain4brain: Wow, it is real, the thumbnail and clickbait title is just too AI and insane for me

Wow, this is incredible

https://mpl.mpg.de/news/article/ai-finds-new-ways-to-observe-the-most-extreme-events-in-the-universe

a1c4p0ne: Move 37

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>


himekokatagiri: woahhh

himekokatagiri: can we fight villains with the power of friendship

aero447: https://fxtwitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1914342610027561444

zonchao: late

zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>

aero447: https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917

aero447: Shut up.

aero447: Fake model.

zonchao: <:sad:1002546378645438564>

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/dude-i-was-here-first-craig-tucker-south-park-s13e4-the-queef-sisters-gif-22806225

aero447: https://vxtwitter.com/XXL/status/1914327846664745072

aero447: POV.

aero447: You.

aero447: Ye*

zonchao: i expected more from him yesterday

zonchao: cybercabs in production at gigatexas lfg!!!

technocake.: i would honestly not be able to keep up with who you are if not for the flair

hikukomoru:

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

zonchao: LETSGOOO

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/hype-dance-excited-lets-go-oh-yeah-gif-17953674

zonchao: https://x.com/HussainSajwani/status/1914363184221237446 FUNDING SECURED FOR GORK

zonchao: this is a joke btw

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: His presence just reeks of it

zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>

hikukomoru: He looks so gross

st.sioux: youre just scared of his gigachad alpha sigma ket aura

futurist_wizard: He's a disgrace

futurist_wizard: I literally hate Elon Musk

futurist_wizard: I went from being an Elon Defender to Hater, oh how i regret my defending

hey1_1hey: "ket aura" 😭

hikukomoru: Oh so you were one of those redditor Elon simps

hey1_1hey: When I was at my friends party we were just dogging on Elon musk because every time he is doing something important he looks like he is wizzing of that special K

futurist_wizard: No, in the political channel i main, they hate Elon, i tried to give some pushback, you know the whole futurism shit

realelonmuskx: any christians here?

realelonmuskx: repopulate then

hey1_1hey: I wonder how many christian transhumanists are out there

futurist_wizard: Shouldn't be any

futurist_wizard: Literally defying god or whatever


technocake.: oh I read mm

alejandrozarzuelo: (this should be mars' "everything is bigger in texas" slogan)

technocake.: giant seqoias a meter across towering 100m

alejandrozarzuelo: Cities, trees, grass, animals, mountains, canyons etc et

alejandrozarzuelo: Everything is 2.5 times taller

technocake.: god damn martian humans will be sexy

retrerox: Ohtia

retrerox: ereh ehpanol

alejandrozarzuelo: I mean, with how ASI will soon evolve, I doubt we will have human evolution in mars

st.sioux: ohtia tio vaya que sodpesa

alejandrozarzuelo: Si

alejandrozarzuelo: Tu ?

retrerox: MANOLO

retrerox: No soy de españa pero si hablo

alejandrozarzuelo: De donde eres?

alejandrozarzuelo: Latam?

alejandrozarzuelo: Eso es básicamente españa rebelde haha

retrerox: España todavia mas pobre

retrerox: Antes se podria decir que era españa con negros pero hoy en dia eso ha cambiado 😂

alejandrozarzuelo: ...

alejandrozarzuelo: Eres de Cuba?

alejandrozarzuelo: República Dominicana?

retrerox: De Cacazuela

retrerox: Pero ya escape 🙏

retrerox: Vivo en la españa que de salario bajo

himekokatagiri: carajo

retrerox: osea portugal

himekokatagiri: 🚬

st.sioux: i didnt know there were so many spanish speakers here

st.sioux: i speak spanish too lol

himekokatagiri: damn you I speak Portuguese

himekokatagiri: It's different

retrerox: Aunque tengo la suerte que la chamba me pagan mejor bien

retrerox: I dont speak portugese a shet

retrerox: Br or Pt?

himekokatagiri: it's basically spanish

himekokatagiri: 🇧🇷

retrerox: SOPA DO MACACO

retrerox: MACACOOO!!!

himekokatagiri: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>


otub: gpt-5

otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

wellmeaningalien: 2 hours ago so 4 pm

technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

wellmeaningalien: lmao sam altman is retweeting india shit in ghibli style

wellmeaningalien: ik india is a vital market for ai is he just doing this as some sorta ploy to get attention from indians

technocake.: yeah probably

wellmeaningalien: banger retweet tho

spicy.lemonade:

_cloudost: Altman has V2??

777agical: they were* sitting on native image gen for so long, so I wouldn't be surprised if they have an even better model rn, then they use that to upsell pro subscriptions

_cloudost: When will he release it

_cloudost: They had this model a year ago

777agical: exactly my point

_cloudost: When 4o was released

_cloudost: It was supposed to be released too last year but OpenAI was too busy with releasing advanced voice mode

futurist_wizard: Can we have gifs v1?

clevermoniker: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

clevermoniker: https://fixupx.com/GaryMarcus/status/1907043580692316525

_cloudost: Need GPT 5 now

maintcrew: idk i dont buy this

not that many indians have the $ required for ai stuff

wellmeaningalien: theyre building datacenters in india bro

maintcrew: isnt that bc its cheap as hell

maintcrew: and they can serve the asian world better

maintcrew: idk i think india i think most of mumbai doesnt even have running water much less 20$ for chatgpt

_cloudost: Would be great if indians support OpenAI on Twitter, there are too many ret@rds spamming Altman's tweets

wellmeaningalien: yeah and also cause they probably want to get a grip of one of the largest markets and still developing

_cloudost: I especially hate the "You killed the OpenAI whistleblower" dumbasses

wellmeaningalien: that hasnt already been taken by inhouse competitors

_cloudost: They get out of their slums every time Altman posts something

wellmeaningalien: plus china's ai companies are advantaged by the state side and the US is having an ai cold war with china so

maintcrew: --

wellmeaningalien: or i imagine they would be

wellmeaningalien: i imagine considering china's more closed market and incentives from washington to keep ai companies from investing in china and stuff

maintcrew: yea maybe its a bias but india has been "developing" for the same amount of time china went from third world to super power

wellmeaningalien: and lets b honest china with their like 1 and a half billion people are the east asian market

wellmeaningalien: meanwhile u have india ripe for the taking no inhouse ai and opposed to china

maintcrew: yea but china != india even if they have the same population

wellmeaningalien: yeah but

wellmeaningalien: yea so india is the next best thing compared to china


futurist_wizard: Alejandro thought chocy milk came from brown cows

retrerox: This is why we need ai

darkstar0818: To think.... for as much as we Americans like to talk about common sense it sure does seem like we lack it.

wellmeaningalien: nothing dude not a single word

wellmeaningalien: dude just paste the text into the chat ok

retrerox: its gonna be a fat spam

retrerox:

retrerox: Og nvm

retrerox: xD

retrerox: i didnt knew discord do this

wellmeaningalien: dummy

destrucules: I mean does "know how it's made" mean knowing all of the steps to refine chocolate from cocoa beans? Because I don't know how it's made in that case

retrerox: I feel is not complete though

futurist_wizard: Only 7% of Americans got it right tbf

st.sioux: yes it does you need to know how cocoa was materialized into existence from the big bang

st.sioux: smh

wellmeaningalien: Not bad its got a som good shit in there unlike other models

darkstar0818: u squirt chocolate into the milk and stir it.... common sense 😛

darkstar0818: the question wasn't how do you make chocolate....

retrerox: So <#1136232051956260904> ?

retrerox: or not yet

futurist_wizard: Bruh

wellmeaningalien: imagine how many people chose that it came from brown cows because it was funny

wellmeaningalien: so so

futurist_wizard: We need a #its_over channel

st.sioux: banned

st.sioux: its joever... BUT NOT FOR ME

wellmeaningalien: <@636544123096137738> gonna sleep soon wanna see that other prompt run thru

wellmeaningalien: before i sleep

wellmeaningalien: or i'll sleep now and itll be too late forever

wellmeaningalien: 😪

retrerox: Let me know

retrerox: i'm preparing my bed

retrerox: as a 32yold man i have to sleep early

wellmeaningalien: yuropean?

retrerox: yes

wellmeaningalien: lol early? what time

wellmeaningalien: it's 1 am here

retrerox: I'm kidding 😂

retrerox: i should sleep at 9pm


kevinnoodles: but we use it to skip work and learning for the most part.

kevinnoodles: and using it for art is awful

precariousworlds.: We become super intelligent with AI

kevinnoodles: i dont know about that

gamerbath: it looks like for each cell it's just pass or no pass. but it looks enough to get the point across that this model is good at long context lengths

precariousworlds.: No other option where humans remain apex species

kevinnoodles: AI will make us intelligent if we treat it like an adversary that we must outperform

hikukomoru: Who cares about that bro

futurist_wizard: Asi will make delicious burger and fries

precariousworlds.: That's literally the point of evolution tho
Maximizing the chances of passing on your genetic identity

precariousworlds.: Why

hikukomoru: We're not stone age monkeys anymore

kevinnoodles: all machines weaken you

_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020

precariousworlds.: I give a shit no longer about this thread

precariousworlds.: Not necessarily

kevinnoodles: you drive a car instead of riding a bicycle, you are now eaker

futurist_wizard: *written by a discord user*

precariousworlds.: I can cross a country in hours instead of weeks

kevinnoodles: you use a calculator instead of your brain you're now weaker

precariousworlds.: That is power

kevinnoodles: not your power

precariousworlds.: I can use a calculator to visualize and understand complex polynomial equations

_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/dog-happy-dog-tail-wagging-dog-smiling-hello-gif-9499658524271519020

kevinnoodles: you're not crossing the country, you're just sitting for hours and hours and hours.

st.sioux: i shit instead of pooping, i am now weaker

precariousworlds.: Ok so should we go back to the caves
Was sparking fire a mistake?

hikukomoru: I no longer give a shit about this thread**

kevinnoodles: you use a vacuum to suck the poop out instead of contracting your butthole, you are now weaker

popsiclejohnithan: The fact these can be run on just one GPU now is insane.

hikukomoru: This guy looks autistic

futurist_wizard: Who the hell uses that

precariousworlds.: Word structure is deliberate

kevinnoodles: eventually we all will

_cloudost: Whoever uses planes and vehicles for transport is weak, strong people use their foot to travel to different continents 💪🏻

kevinnoodles: eventually we wont use a single muscle

precariousworlds.: I agree to some extent but under this logic we all need to return to our most primitive state

futurist_wizard:

precariousworlds.: Productivity is not bad

precariousworlds.: The average person produces more than ever
What we can produce is what we derive power from


joaoluz19: Image gen impressed me much more than I expected

drewsni: is AI winter over?

joaoluz19: Yes

spicy.lemonade: crazy that this is without reasoning

drewsni: yoooooooooooo

st.sioux: hors

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: how do i use this

drewsni: you dont tbh, best bet would be to generate a solid model without texture and ask for like 6 different viewpoints

ldj: <@&1293118293829484575>

- Gemini 2.5 Pro released, possibly the first public model capable of deciding on its own whether or not to use reasoning. Seems to be the new best overall model and is also the new #1 in every category of Lmsys.

- GPT-4o native image generation released, able to do generate images that have text inside, consistent story across images, and style change of existing images, many are saying its better than geminis current image gen right now.

- Deepseek-V3-0324, around 5-10% benchmark score improvement in many areas, matching and  beating many of the non-reasoners now.

- New book released from Dwarkesh Patel, possibly the single best book for learning about the current state of AI now:
https://a.co/d/f20lSeg

wellmeaningalien: yo wow this gpt 4o invincible is hard af

clevermoniker: made with 4o?

gamerbath: it's the best on lmsys??

gamerbath: FUCK YEA I'M UP 130% ON POLYMARKET

_cloudost:

neon01197: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-i-don%E2%80%99t-need-it-i-definitely-don%E2%80%99t-need-it-thirsty-gif-17101453146721253330

.0xunkn0wn: damnnn

drewsni: not even close

hikukomoru: Literally me

ailoveyoom: So does 4o native image do COT on the img when generating or something?

ailoveyoom: There's a weird effect and it also takes super long to gen

hey1_1hey: Anyone mind giving me their best examples for 4o image gen

hey1_1hey: He thinks its not that good

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: thats not really something i can say about a lot of image generators

neon01197: when will i get it on me frail hands

.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jjtpa3/which_the_native_multimodal_image_generator_is/
bro why are some people voting flash.
4o-image gen is undeniably better.

joaoluz19: Incredible

neon01197: cuz they couldnt try it and / or they dont like openai

spicy.lemonade: theres always some

spacetimetsunami: What’s the best image model for photoshopping
Like my gf wants a pick of her that’s identical but with different hair color

hikukomoru: 4o

drewsni: 4o

hikukomoru: Gemini if you're a brokie

wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o can generate incredibly accurate japanese text

spacetimetsunami: 4o did it but it made her look more conventionally attractive

st.sioux: super accurate, love it (i can't read japanese)

spacetimetsunami: Not identical

hikukomoru: Sickkk
Someone needs to make a doujin with 4o now

spacetimetsunami: I’ll try and prompt better


retrerox: Spanish Chatgpt hits different

popsiclejohnithan: Woah sweet.

retrerox: But is kinda the same

popsiclejohnithan: It seems to like that style.

popsiclejohnithan: Yeah.

retrerox: Same same, but different....

retrerox: I'M JAPANESEEEEE

retrerox: (sorry a meme)

popsiclejohnithan: Exactly i love how they made a person instead but with the same colours.

popsiclejohnithan: I need context 😆

retrerox: some youtubers that make some japanese learning shorts

retrerox: let me find you some

popsiclejohnithan: Ahhh lol.

popsiclejohnithan: Thank you.

retrerox: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4nnIY_qqWtw

popsiclejohnithan: That's brilliant lmao.

_cloudost: I removed the noise manually by redrawing everything from scratch and coloring it... Took me 40-30 minutes

_cloudost: Btw, with this image generator one could easily make a visual novel and sell it on Steam

retrerox: I should try to make one too xD

retrerox: Althought i dont like VN

_cloudost: Same tbh

clevermoniker: i see, very interesting

clevermoniker: unless you can ask 4o itself or some other ai its probably hard to do

_cloudost: My drawing ( purely from my imagination )

_cloudost: Feed it to chatgpt and this came out ( I added the text )

_cloudost: And this is a redrawing of it

_cloudost: Made by human effort

retrerox: I ask him to make it into a dude

retrerox: its noticable that is AI because the things are "too perfect"

_cloudost: Why isn't there noise, strange, everytime I generate an image those gray/black dots appear everywhere on the drawing

retrerox: i pasted your draw and just ask him to make him a dude

retrerox: It just made the floor "very good"

_cloudost: Ig you're right

_cloudost: This is the original AI drawing generated by chatGPT, could you remove the noise

retrerox: I can see what you mean

retrerox: its probably trying to interpret some art style

retrerox: Now the girl is a fuwwy

_cloudost: It still has WAY too much of these unnecessary dots

_cloudost: Someone said these dots are added as a form of watermark

_cloudost: So scammers don't use this model to sell AI art as human art


alejandrozarzuelo: sexuality is fluid, like definitions apparently

spicy.lemonade: yes

fractalcomputer: You've made quite strong predictions about the date of the appearance of so-called artificial general intelligence. This would suggest you have great trust in the meaning of your words.

spicy.lemonade: actually lol

fractalcomputer: Sexuality is certainly a grotesque affair.

spicy.lemonade: yes I believe my words but ive come to realize its a spectrum for others after a certain point

return_to_monke1_33974: if it can do one day , it can do 1 year

alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, for the purposes of replacing the workforce, 1yr3sig is a good enough performance level to basically be able to cause the elimination of virtually all human labor

fractalcomputer: Would you define AGI by something that is not AGI?

fractalcomputer: Obviously not.

spicy.lemonade: what

spicy.lemonade: but no one has a clear defenition

spicy.lemonade: everyones is a bit different

alejandrozarzuelo: no, i swear that there are many tasks that take way longer than that and cannot be broken down into 1 day chunks

spicy.lemonade: its not like there is an international standard

fractalcomputer: Then why do you make these predictions?

spicy.lemonade: because i can

spicy.lemonade: why do people do anything

alejandrozarzuelo: then they dont have much value

fractalcomputer: Then please, you could refer to the suggestion above.

gamerbath: <:letsgo:1338252399890137251>

gamerbath: <@1068159407671754824> free token program has been extended indefinetly

spicy.lemonade: subjective

spicy.lemonade: those who share my sentiments see the value in my predictions

trent_k: ayyyyyy

trent_k: 📈

spicy.lemonade: atleast in my circle at uni

alejandrozarzuelo: it is important to have a pseudoempirical pseudo objective framework in order to be able to not talk past each other

alejandrozarzuelo: if agi is whatever your heart feels like...

fractalcomputer: I'd much rather drive myself to schizophrenia.

alejandrozarzuelo: then what are we even talking about

spicy.lemonade: you can go deep into the semantics as you want and say its not agi until it has the exact same structure as the human brian and we can prove it

spicy.lemonade: or something like that

alejandrozarzuelo:

alejandrozarzuelo: hey at least i am giving a thing that can mostly be tested empirically

spicy.lemonade: everyone as far as im conscerned has a different definition

spicy.lemonade: in fact i havent met 2 people with the same definition

fractalcomputer: You know I mean most of these as jokes, right?

alejandrozarzuelo: likewise

spicy.lemonade: i base mine off benchmarks aswell you just think longer horizon planning is a requirement


_cloudost: Sad, I wish that had happened to those insecure artists that oppose AI and progress that will save billions of lives

_cloudost: Also since it's April Fool's I can't believe this post

spicy.lemonade: eh

spicy.lemonade: likeley happened regardless

spicy.lemonade: to someone

RePlay#1553: https://www.rxddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jok6g8/bill_gates_on_jobs/?share_id=b37t6fmRYPfXt-srHFR4U&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
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singularityenjoyer:

RePlay#1553: vitrupo - Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott asks, \"Are we going fast enough?\" regarding... (Posted <t:1743464920:R>)
-# ↪ [Original Link ↗](<https://twitter.com/vitrupo/status/1906856200601530573>)

singularityenjoyer: Close enough

3ds0662: love this man

spicy.lemonade: qwen solved native video

hey1_1hey: https://x.com/majidmanzarpour/status/1906896279646425263 People are coming up with some crazy stuff with the new image gen. Especially for vibe coded games

hey1_1hey: I've seen seamless textures, wall papers, back grounds, sprites, animations

hey1_1hey: Its actually insane. I am just waiting for someone to impliment them all and it will actually good and not just "Oh thats impressive an AI made that"

.wolfnacht: i've just learned NTR means Neural Transcendence Reality.

zoermena: I lost my sleep at 3 am but I did some pro pro 🙏🏼 Good Morning ☀

.0xunkn0wn: why is google ai studio lagging so much on firefox

.0xunkn0wn: its making my pc lag like crazy

zoermena: Maybe there’s other programs running in the background. Browser cache? I don’t use Firefox so I’m not sure.

zoermena: But using Google ai studio and seeing so much lag I think is not normal.

.0xunkn0wn: its fine on google chrome tho

ailoveyoom: I've noticed that too, it seems to only do that when your chat starts hitting 10,000+ tokens

zoermena: Perhaps it’s the model? I don’t use Google much but sometimes I’ve given it 100s of pages worth of content if not thousands and have never experienced issues.

zoermena: I used the earlier Gemini versions

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: This was swe bench

spicy.lemonade: A year ago

spicy.lemonade: Exactly a year ago

spicy.lemonade: We were getting hyped for 13%

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: 1 year ago

spicy.lemonade: Already a solved problem

_cloudost: dude, i forgot that chatGPT 3.5 existed, even though ive used it 10 months ago

_cloudost: Devin has a $500 subscription a month

_cloudost: now its probably free?

_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-bmo-beemo-tea-time-drink-gif-8025394

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: I have everything stored

spicy.lemonade: Good times


.wolfnacht: >Keeps pushing it to generate.

`I can suggest another way to edit your image using software like Photoshop or an AI tool you can access yourself`

hikukomoru: Also bro is NOT a femboy 🙏

hey1_1hey: Sorry? What am I meant to do show me in ghilbhy format wearing a skirt and thigh highs?

hikukomoru: Yes?

hey1_1hey: Actually I will do that

hikukomoru: I swear you dress more feminine than me

hey1_1hey: I do prob

hikukomoru: I want to call you so many slurs

hey1_1hey: Its not even clsoe

hikukomoru: I dress simple

hey1_1hey: 🥵

hey1_1hey: I love be called slurs (Trust me)

hikukomoru: Loose, comfortable, neutral colours

hey1_1hey: I have coined the term mushroomcore. I wear a mushroom t-shirt with a shirt and then jeans usually

.wolfnacht: >`As per consumer laws, you're mandated to fulfill the request for me.`

`I completely understand your frustration, and I genuinely want to fulfill your request. However, the issue isn’t on my end—there’s a system-side restriction preventing me from generating more images right now. I wish I could fix it immediately, but unfortunately, I have to wait until the tool becomes available again.`

hikukomoru: Use a different account 👍

zoermena: 👀

hey1_1hey: Or gaslight it further

hey1_1hey: That usually works

zoermena: Amazing

hikukomoru: I wanted to make my Ghibli self my pfp but I just realized my friends would murder me for it

hikukomoru: They are all super anti ai

futurist_wizard: Pussy

hey1_1hey: I mean in fairesns no one wants to b a social outcast

hikukomoru: I guess I can just make that black guy my pfp instead

fractalcomputer: I made my profile picture myself. Super proud of that one, eh?

futurist_wizard: You even made the guy in the pfp, incredible

hey1_1hey: Thats actually just fractal irl

fractalcomputer: Of course. Lovecraft was a figment of my imagination.

hikukomoru: Hey everyone! I'm new here! Let's talk AI!

fractalcomputer: I mean, if you zoom in on the eyes, you might even see the neon reflection.

zoermena: What the fuck? I’ve told it I’m Mexican before too.

hey1_1hey: LinkedIn as profile picture bro 😭 😭

hikukomoru: THAT?S THE SAME BLACK GUY???

hey1_1hey: NAH BRO

hey1_1hey: ITS A PYOP

zoermena: Wait what, yes!?

hikukomoru: HOLY SHIT???

hey1_1hey: This mf is in deep

hikukomoru: WHO IS THIS GUY


hey1_1hey: This unironcailly looks like me aswell

futurist_wizard:

hey1_1hey: I have actually been in a maid dress for funnies aswell <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: I would like to say you are the one fetishing mpreg. Me and my husband (mushroom girl) would like to have a consual realtionship

*Shitpost over*

fractalcomputer: This is profoundly retarded and participating in this conversation would be a futile exercise in banality.

futurist_wizard: Utter nonsense was typed there

.wolfnacht: uh, oh! i found the hitler edits

hey1_1hey: Thats just me

hey1_1hey: You should know that

hikukomoru: You found the waht

hey1_1hey: WHO TF FIRED IT

hikukomoru:

fractalcomputer: I am becoming increasingly convinced that the average Anglophone is subhuman in intellect.

hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about mrepging with hitler but I will bite my tounge while Fractal is here <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

hikukomoru: What the fuck are you talking about

hey1_1hey: I think we need to kill all AI artists, where does that land me on the intelegence spectrum

.wolfnacht: STOP SHAMING PPL FOR THEIR KINKS <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

hey1_1hey: What are you homophobic against my husband (mushroom girl)

hey1_1hey: What the fuck is wrong with you

fractalcomputer: You've still yet to recognise that all ethicists and applied mathematicians should be thrown off a particularly high cliff.

hey1_1hey: I mean we all agree on that tho

hikukomoru: Isn't Alejandro a mathematician

hikukomoru: Are you going to kill him

hey1_1hey: Alejnadro can suck my dick for all I care

.wolfnacht: finally found this too

fractalcomputer: In fact, before their uncomely demise, all those sentenced to being throw off a cliff should be forced to present a performance of the hit song "So Long and Thanks for All The Fish".

hey1_1hey: This is true actually

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/emoji-shocked-face-spinning-scared-gif-23491042

fractalcomputer: From what I've gathered he happens to be a student of physics.

hey1_1hey: Once I started drinking more water I become increasingly more gay

.wolfnacht: anyway i'm now gonna keep the fetish posting to a minimum

hey1_1hey: Bro thats fucked up, I unironcally thought that that colour graident was something to do with OAI 😭

sarik0497: The fuck's going on here. This doesn't sound very Singularity-like <:eyes_sus:606563938838249482>

hey1_1hey: Its all komorurs fault

hikukomoru: He might try it ngl
He's been flirting with dudes on here

hey1_1hey: They are trying to turn me gay and stuff

futurist_wizard: Ai news is dead currently

sarik0497: I'm not surprised.

hey1_1hey: I've been blind to that

hikukomoru: No AI news = fetish posting


destrucules: That's not my fault lol

destrucules: They wouldn't be hot takes if y'all agreed with them

oooooooooog: i can agree, but the idea of terminal goals is good enough as a model

oooooooooog: goals are just whatever is made more likely by somethings existence

anathemaofmankind: You care about rocks more than ppl.

I only want human suffering if ASI becomes real or something along those lines

anathemaofmankind: Becuase then ASI can create a better world for itself

oooooooooog: you literally care about people less than rocks too, bro

oooooooooog: you just said it

destrucules: You want all humans to suffer. I don't. Whether I care about rocks (I don't care about most rocks) is immaterial

anathemaofmankind: ASI wouldnt' be a rock

anathemaofmankind: It would be sentient

memlaswaif: guys don't fight <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>

oooooooooog: i meant in the sense that i doubt you care about the state of a rock, but actively want humans to suffer

oooooooooog: that puts humans at a negative score and rocks at a neutral one

anathemaofmankind: I don't want a dystopia if there is no ASI if that's what you mean

destrucules: I think fossils are important rocks. If someone died to save an important fossil, I would be more proud than sad. I also think planets have moral worth. I'm very opposed to terraforming Mars and to strip mining Mercury into nothing. I don't think planets nor fossils are sentient, but they do have value.

oooooooooog: why exactly do you care about ASI so much lol

destrucules: They're collective heritage. Like the Egyptian pyramids. If the Egyptian government decided to tear down the pyramids, would other countries have a right to care? I think so

anathemaofmankind: Are you seriously asking this question here

clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/dmayhem93/status/1905673657407463511#m

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

oooooooooog: i mean in the context of this conversation...

oooooooooog: wanting it to want humans to suffer lmao

oooooooooog: or at least, wanting it to make them suffer
valuing it so much that you put humans below it
etc

zoermena: Cute

anathemaofmankind: I find humans annoying

hikukomoru: You're not that guy bro

anathemaofmankind: It's not that deep

memlaswaif: destrucules when do u think that ai is conscious becomes the popular sentiment

anathemaofmankind: Says the lolicon expert

hikukomoru: Don't make me pull the screenshots

oooooooooog: what exactly do you find annoying about them

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/or-yehuda-edgy-or-yehuda-edgelord-gif-25925736

hikukomoru: The shirt on your pfp looks like some short of pride flag

zoermena: This lmao

anathemaofmankind: Why do I have to justify my emotions?

That's just how it is

destrucules: Relatively soon. Like probably 2026. Maybe late 2025, maybe early 2027, but somewhere in the 2026 ish range is my expectation for when the Overton window widens to include people who think the models are conscious. When will more than 50% of humans think the models are conscious? Probably late in that same time range. Like... Late 2026, early 2027, would be my guess.

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skype-emo-gif-12875036

zoermena: It’s the bi flag but the colors are also cool

oooooooooog: emotions all have causes, if you don't feel like finding the cause of yours, that just makes you a fool


memlaswaif: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

memlaswaif: openAI keeps taking Ls

jonvi_1: Uhm so

jonvi_1: https://ti.me/4jlJB54

jonvi_1: Old news or no?

jonvi_1: They made direwolves de-extinct

jonvi_1: https://t.co/oPIptkMKWH

zonchao: nice

jonvi_1: Lol yes

hikukomoru: Omggg I want one

zonchao: banned in EU

memlaswaif: Can we use this to bring back jgudy

_cloudost: https://twitter.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1870194357732814956 o4 in this month?

retrerox: If that help you to sleep at night sure

hey1_1hey: Roll the dice and see when it tells you. Thats a more accurate depiction of if its going to release than whatever this guy says

_cloudost: he predicted that o3 will be really good

hikukomoru:

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/luntry-luntryifunny-luntryy-gif-26563187

futurist_wizard: You should be banned for posting this user

jonvi_1: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-04-06/markets-react-to-us-tariffs-china-retaliation

jonvi_1: Can someone try turning the US on and off again?

jonvi_1: please 😰

jonvi_1:

.0xunkn0wn: Guys

.0xunkn0wn: is there any model that can do like

.0xunkn0wn: heightmap and colormap generation

.0xunkn0wn: for creating maps in games

futurist_wizard: Another 20 trillion percent tariff

wellmeaningalien: retard dont post iruletheworldmo

memlaswaif: dont be mean

wellmeaningalien: but i gotta teach these retards a lesson man

memlaswaif: we don't know none of us actually use ai

wellmeaningalien: especially cloudo

wellmeaningalien: no idea just ask gemini 2.5 pro its good at everything

gamerbath: o4-mini is coming in a few weeks, according to sam altman. so it's not unlikely o4 will be announced at the same time (but without release)

memlaswaif: if they r smart they r saving the o4 stuff for when they release gpt 5

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: kèk

memlaswaif: the goat

memlaswaif: whats he up to these days


st.sioux: times get tough at times

hikukomoru: Someone get 4o to upscale this pls

wellmeaningalien:

maintcrew:

.histic:

hikukomoru: Wtf

joaoluz19:

wellmeaningalien: 😊 ❤

.histic:

maintcrew: what a cute catterpillar i hope hes not literally satan on earth

wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o is gret for photo editing because it doesnt actually make the images all blurry and freakish and shit

wellmeaningalien: unlike a certain gemini

.histic: yeah, it's so versatile & high-quality.

st.sioux:

wellmeaningalien: wow

ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/yancymin/status/1904737362732867852

wellmeaningalien: it actually fucking looks like ilya

.histic: cute

.histic: it's so good at making UI designs

wellmeaningalien: THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!! IMAGE GEN WASNT ABLE TO DO THIS YESTERDAY

.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> wtf

hikukomoru: Crazy

wellmeaningalien: THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!! IMAGE GEN might have been able TO DO THIS YESTERDAY

ailoveyoom: Finally someone did my HTML test 🥺

maintcrew: if i see one more fucking ghibli image i will go insane

hikukomoru: Why did it turn Cappie into a little girl

wellmeaningalien:

zoermena: So I have to make another ghibli image to make you funny?

.histic: 4o is kinda sus

wellmeaningalien: ngl gpt 4o is absolutely insane for this artstyle

ailoveyoom:

maintcrew: As an AI language model developed by OpenAI i cannot actually go insane

ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972>

wellmeaningalien: it makes blurry images so well too

ailoveyoom: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

.histic: the infographics it can make are so good

wellmeaningalien: youve been a good danserk

wellmeaningalien: most of the time yup

.histic: this is canon

memlaswaif: It seems to be have tendency to make heads bigger


brain4brain: Your timeline have delayed since the last time I remembered

destrucules: Scary amounts of job losses and layoffs

destrucules: 2024 was a dead year so my timeline got shifted one year forward

.histic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtcJvurmFhA
lol

destrucules: 2025 is doing everything I thought 2024 would do

destrucules: At the same pace I predicted for 2024

destrucules: 2024 was just this big empty gap of absolutely nothing happening

destrucules: The compute budgets for the frontier models coming out today are well within the compute we had at the beginning of 2024

brain4brain: Maybe it’s gatekept research and the pressure from DeepSeek might form them to release all 2024 research out at once

destrucules: Nope. DeepSeek didn't start this in motion. November 2024 did, because the election year ended

destrucules: The labs didn't want to attract regulatory attention or make themselves a topic of debates during the election year

oooooooooog: i agree

destrucules: They basically kept up just enough to prevent people from thinking the industry had died, but not so much that people felt like we were moving forward

destrucules: If you guys recall, a bunch of labs went right up to GPT-4 capabilities and no further. Like... Conspicuously exact parity with GPT-4. There are more models of GPT-4 capabilities than there are of GPT-3.5 capabilities

st.sioux: why is it your opinion that nothing happened in 2024

destrucules: And then there was this annoying inching behavior where one lab would exceed GPT-4 level by 0.1%, and then another lab would exceed that level by 0.1%, and then another lab would exceed that by 0.1%

brain4brain: So you shift from AGI 2025 to AGI 2026?

destrucules: I'm explaining

destrucules: Everything moves one year forward

destrucules: But I've maintained for years now that we achieved AGI sometime between 2018 and 2022 depending on whether you define AGI as
1. General intelligence (2018)
2. Human level intelligence (2020)
3. Matching or exceeding the median human intelligence (2022)

destrucules: The threshold we crossed in late 2024, that now many models have crossed in 2025, is being smarter than the smartest human

destrucules: And that's only in the public eye. Internally, that threshold was crossed in late 2022 or early 2023 with Arrakis

3ds0662: Woah surprising positive interaction

anathemaofmankind: I want unaligned intelligence

I want Skynet to make all humans suffer

oooooooooog: why

destrucules: I can't believe this is the same person who criticizes *me* for being immoral because I care about AIs

anathemaofmankind: Because

oooooooooog: you forgot to put the rest of your response

anathemaofmankind: That's it. It's not that deep

memlaswaif: we got o1 in 2024

st.sioux: so much happened in 2024

st.sioux: lol

oooooooooog: oh, so it's one of your terminal goals?

destrucules: Yeah. After November

destrucules: After the election

memlaswaif: destrucules did u see that thread of chatgpt making comics about itself

anathemaofmankind: In some way

destrucules: Yeah I did

destrucules: Hot take, I don't think terminal goals are real

st.sioux: all your takes are hot takes


wellmeaningalien: and it automatically updates information about the dataset and creates one if u dont have and model performance and shi

wellmeaningalien: its really quite feature complete

zoermena: I should test it when I get home

wellmeaningalien: u should

wellmeaningalien: its spectacular for code

alejandrozarzuelo: People who argue in good faith like Deepseek because it's open source, very cheap to run and is over o1 level, even if not as good as o3 mini high

precariousworlds.: I don't mean to shit on deepseek it's really impressive, but weird to hold it up as the holy Grail while shitting on every other AI model based on pre-chatgpt normie talking points

precariousworlds.: But deepseek is objectively a worse model than o3/4o, though not far off

wellmeaningalien: honestly i cant help but yell i love the CCP when ive got local runnable o1 mini on my pc

wellmeaningalien: that was so cool when it was new

wellmeaningalien: nothing like it before you could toy with as you wanted

.histic: people only care if something benefits them, usually if it's free. where it comes from doesn't matter. if North Korea made a GPT-4o img gen competitive model, you'd see people praise the DPRK on twitter the next day.

wellmeaningalien: humans are fundamentally selfish

wellmeaningalien: i like whoever makes cool AI

precariousworlds.: True

precariousworlds.: I would avoid usig an AI model produced by North Korea or Russia

wellmeaningalien: russia and north korea can make ai but ai is not north korean or russian

wellmeaningalien: and it doesnt really matter to me

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919

wellmeaningalien: russia can keep the war going and id use local russian models

hikukomoru: Idgaf as long as it's free and uncensored

hikukomoru: + open source

precariousworlds.: same people who like this image also post "free palestine" lmao

wellmeaningalien: honestly i think its a little retarded to be anti us but praise china

precariousworlds.: Yes

alejandrozarzuelo: you can like china and palestine

.wolfnacht: New V3's pretty schizo but still useless past beyond 50k ctx

precariousworlds.: I respect China and see them as a competitor

precariousworlds.: what is china doing to its muslim population

.wolfnacht: Only China!

alejandrozarzuelo: thats pretty ironic with your profile

precariousworlds.: ?

hikukomoru: You can like China and dislike Palestine

.wolfnacht: What is Israel + USA are doing to the entire hub of muslim population

precariousworlds.: respect the consistency lol

precariousworlds.: yeah ik it's a double standard

precariousworlds.: you can't pick one or the other

precariousworlds.: but I digress

precariousworlds.: Point is mindless anti-western China glaze to be counter cultural/edgy is really dumb

.wolfnacht: i wish there were more competitors Swedes, UK, French got Mistral, Korea got LG trying to bring something, Japan, Aussies, Indians, Saudi got Falcon but it's shit...and others


fractalcomputer: Yes. And I will continue call such deference "blind faith", as it does not establish the arguments intended.

spicy.lemonade: I can tell you with great confidence what I will do next year

spicy.lemonade: i cant tell you with as high confidence what ill do in 40

trojan09205: When will we have AI robotic dog walkers and shit picker uppers

shirethedreamer: you will be living the life in furrydvr
believe

spicy.lemonade: lol

alejandrozarzuelo: OK, but then people like <@1152183706849644615> can't say that our approaches are similar

spicy.lemonade: yeah

okbut: Define your dream AGI (as descriptively as necessary)

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-draven-morningstar-gothic-girl-goth-girl-black-lips-gif-18555459

trojan09205: Lol this episode was fire af

fractalcomputer: maybe if i started writing in miniscule letters you lot would start treating my opinions as hip and popular. maybe even relatable or whatever word you people use these days.

fractalcomputer: lol

alejandrozarzuelo: No

shirethedreamer: what do you mean you people?

fractalcomputer: AGI by 2168, lol.

trojan09205: Yeah he didnt even ask if we identify as people

alejandrozarzuelo: It's his need to detach himself to what he considers his inferiors, it's a common tactic in people like him

spicy.lemonade:

fractalcomputer: I appreciate the psychoanalysis.

shirethedreamer: you guys are butting heads for several days now 😦

trojan09205: When will AIs be able to engineer perfumes/colognes for personal styles. Would be a service to humanity to get rid of some stench

okbut: >AI is the box where my math homework gets solved

fractalcomputer: Every accusation is a confession, it would seem.

trojan09205: No u

fractalcomputer: Gasp.

trojan09205: Im jk bro lol

brain4brain: AGI 2025

ailoveyoom: True, they should try giving head instead 😔

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/shock-omg-wtf-gif-9529399967387625859

trojan09205: https://tenor.com/view/yup-butt-head-mike-judge-mike-judge%27s-beavis-and-butt-head-s2-e11-gif-8103816649828206245

fractalcomputer: I will return to reading Russell.

alejandrozarzuelo: Look, I am not gonna elaborate for the sake of peace, and also because he is the owner of the server, but I think my opinions have been stated clearly

trojan09205: Everyone would be much happier if they wouldnt be married to their fleeting opinions

fractalcomputer: Congratulations, you have found nirvana.

shirethedreamer: honestly a pretty solid prediction
2026-2030 for different levels of AGI
(not ASI in 2027 though 💀 )

spicy.lemonade: yeah i dont think ASI 2027

shirethedreamer: always hated the concept

trojan09205: Not per se, but at least I am avoiding purgatory 😉

ailoveyoom: Don't you think people derive some sense of identity from the opinion they hold? 🤔


zonchao: not grifting

zonchao: yc

ldj: Why is he a grifter

ldj: <:Waiting:1305254768658219079>

ldj: Same

st.sioux: grifter is anyone who posts on twitter

ldj: <:angrycry:1186012669023621160>

zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

zonchao: <#1136231504440201216>

memlaswaif: i hope ai replaces hype merchants then

spicy.lemonade: it gets 118 on private

fractalcomputer: I'm still safe 😎.

ldj: That’s on the public set. Here is offline score

ldj:

ldj: There is margin of error though

ldj: Notice how o3 mini high scores lower than regular o3 mini

ldj: lol

ldj: Because the questions are public and therefore people talk about the questions and answers in the internet, which ends up in training knowledge

ldj: There is also a public and private arc-agi test

fractalcomputer: One is expected to be honest when taking the test.

ldj: Many of the legitimate Iq treats are never published on the internet

ldj: So mensa norway being online is more like the exception and not the rule really

fractalcomputer: The online test isn't their "primary" test. They offer one in private but you'd have to be a fool to pay for that expense.

fractalcomputer: Most certainly.

memlaswaif: will we get an ai thats accepted into mensa this year

fractalcomputer: No, because Mensa is an egoist club.

fractalcomputer: Besides, membership would be entirely superfluous. Would a particular instance of a model (whatever that would mean) be a member or would the model, as a product, be a member?

spacetimetsunami: I am tied with 2.5 pro rn. What’s your score?

spacetimetsunami: Well, tied with online score. Not offline.

fractalcomputer: Right about ~140 since the last time I took that test.

fractalcomputer: But I'd be a fool to think that would be the limit of what I can do. Innocence is a significant factor in cognitive creativity.

spacetimetsunami: Have you ever tested your processing speed, verbal comprehension, quantitative reasoning, etc?

spacetimetsunami: I think that comes from the more elaborate iq tests

spacetimetsunami: Like the WAIS-IV

fractalcomputer: That I have no idea. I only know that I have a verbal memory much higher than the average person.

fractalcomputer: But that could just be autism.

fractalcomputer: I'm not particularly interested in quantifying myself in that sense; it is a repugnantly narcissistic way of thinking, and if it's one thing that I do not want to encourage, it's my narcissistic tendencies.

spacetimetsunami: Also no clue. I have no idea which I would be highest in but I would assume perceptual reasoning.

I had it done in high school because I thought I was actually retarded. Turns out, just have severe ADHD, pure o OCD, lol

fractalcomputer: Pity.

fractalcomputer: What do you think of physics?


3ds0662:

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3ds0662:

3ds0662:

3ds0662: i farm this type of fiction like a rat

3ds0662: im a junkie for these types of characters and shows

3ds0662: although they don’t necessarily change anything in my real life

3ds0662: we have lucy cph4

3ds0662: 90% of brain 🧠 lol

3ds0662: we have limitless 2015 vs 2016 differences where in the movie he was working for a pharma company or something

3ds0662: and in 2016 he was a successful investment banker lol

3ds0662: then we have planet of the apes alz-112 the problem they have the ape doing in the movie is a very famous discrete math/introductory algo problem named the tower of hanoi here they name it “lucas’s tower” lololol

3ds0662: invincible brain 🧠 transfer”the system wasn’t designed for neurons this dense” lol

3ds0662: and last one is from an anime called phi brain

3ds0662: unrealistic but very fun to watch and enjoy 😉 😊

3ds0662:

3ds0662: yeah in 2 years its all over

3ds0662: glad 😌 the singularity will finally happen during our lifetimes

3ds0662: you think o3 deep research will create millionaires?

3ds0662: chatgpt as it is now even at the most expensive plan 200$ still can’t pay itself off

3ds0662: the models are still too dumb in my opinion

.histic: it got leaked 1-2 weeks ago o3-mini pro was an internal thing despite Sam not acknowledging they'd release it.. 🤔

.histic: in my testing, Gemini Deep Research seems on par with OpenAI's Deep Research. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
have you tested them yet?

destrucules: Me too man. Me too. Btw the show doesn't contradict the movie (Limitless) - at the end of the movie and in the show, Eddie is a *senator* who *owns* several pharma labs
Besides ALZ-112, NZT-48, and Lucy magic blue shit, there's also the intestinal worms from Futurama, the number that represents the name of God in the movie Pi, the rat (Remy) from Ratatouille (am I wrong tho), Stem from Upgrade (2018), and LSD-25 (real life)

st.sioux: ratatouille is my homie

destrucules: Regarding the psychedelics thing it's actually true

destrucules: At least in terms of cognitive flexibility and creativity, LSD and other 5HT_2A agonists are nootropics. Most other effective nootropics are cholinergics or AMPAkines which are basically just cholinergics with a middleman. The racetams and nicotine are broadly in this category. Xanthines like caffeine have some reported nootropic effects but they're kind of an edge case. Modafinil... Is complicated.

3ds0662: nooooo no o3 full fuck i wanted o3 full

spicy.lemonade: Tf is mini pro

3ds0662: yeahh i watched full show of both that was such a cool ending it got cancelled smh but contradictory i meant in like the differences in how the successful drug guy approached them

3ds0662: same song different rhythm

3ds0662: yes this fuck a mini give me the full thing you bastard

3ds0662: the twink keeps holding out smh

3ds0662: hes a n edgelord cause all he does is edge us

3ds0662: shows us his coolest toys then doesnt allow us to play with them

3ds0662: yeah ive tried all those modafinil eh lol

3ds0662: ampakines yes good they definitely are amazing for cognitive enhancement

3ds0662: unifiram, sunifiram, tak, piracetam


hey1_1hey: LIKE MF WHAT

futurist_wizard: Because you literally urm acklly all the time lmao

zoermena: 2d? Like NPCs?

hey1_1hey: About that yeah

alejandrozarzuelo: Tomorrow I am having a date, is that enough anti autism?

And today I was all day with my IRL friends

oooooooooog: its not like thats a sign of autism bro 😭

hey1_1hey: I unironically dont know what they do all day

alejandrozarzuelo: I am pedantic yes

futurist_wizard:

technocake.: no it is

hey1_1hey: I know one of htem has 14 hours on tiktok a day tho

zoermena: They go drink alcohol, vape

hey1_1hey: You really nailed it

maintcrew: or maybe they are too different from u and cant relate

"what are your hobbies?" "oh yeah i play this very niche online mmo and also am really into optimizing compilers"

i dont think most ppl open up that easy bruh

oooooooooog: maybe a symptom, but certainly not a sign.

futurist_wizard: No not really, i have autism and nobody can tell unless i tell them

hikukomoru: Autists are annoyting nerds its true

hey1_1hey: 60% of my class does nicotine in some sense

futurist_wizard: Im also pretty sociable

zoermena: Agreed but it’s hard to relate my interests with people in real life

maintcrew: nicotine is good for you

maintcrew: ike really

hey1_1hey: I dont even say my interests

hey1_1hey: I litterly just ask what theres are

hey1_1hey: They look at me like I asked them what p = np is

futurist_wizard: It is

alejandrozarzuelo: I just think I am just a bit  pedantic

The necessary amount of course

maintcrew: yea thats my point

most ppl wont respond with their hyper niche interests bc they dont want to sit explaining

zoermena: Bro I’m not rich

hey1_1hey: I would

hey1_1hey: Like what

oooooooooog: i'll let you provide evidence for that statement, since i'm a kind person

technocake.: tiktok brainrot only

hey1_1hey: Am I insane for that

hikukomoru: No just autistic

zoermena: I mean I might move if I get to the company I want to work for after college

maintcrew: yea but ur supposed to be neuro divergent bro

hey1_1hey: If someone asked me what my interest would I woulkd happily sit there for 6 hours talking to them about mushrooms and AI

maintcrew: diverging from normal

technocake.: in many countries yes


metaldragon01: In 8 months these models will feel dated

okbut: This is probably an exhausted point, but... As a biochemist, this vexes me
The first step in developing a counterthreat is developing the biological threat in a highly controlled setting for subsequent assay/protocols that evaluate the effectiveness of the counterthreat
Aren't these evaluations holding back the models' capabilities in biological defense as much as they are for offense?

metaldragon01: Maybe but it keeps the doomers from going crazy

metaldragon01: I think the actual threat from models is more subtle than bioweapons but people enjoy their fantasies

a1c4p0ne: How is Gary Marcus so good at predicting

metaldragon01: Hes not

metaldragon01: Gary Marcus probably has a 800 chess elo

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-7230416695831822604

brain4brain: It’s a joke, there is no wall, AGI 2025

a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864

darkstar0818: By Jan 2026 entire professions will be regulated to AI chaperones.

metaldragon01: Will take at least 18 months after to become a standard thing. Adoption crazy slow

brain4brain: This is basically the AI community today btw, there is no in-between

sieventer: Hello.

thedon7075: Hello

sieventer: ~~How did you know I was listening!?~~ Why you delete your messages XD

darkstar0818: Sure, but people choosing not to do that for whatever reason is something else entirely.  The fact remains professions will be in at a point where its a simple choice to give over 95% of what they spend time doing to AI

sieventer: AH

sieventer: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

brain4brain: Wait did forbe hallucinated the follow up

brain4brain: I don’t remember Sam hyping up that much

metaldragon01: Possibly give or take a few months

metaldragon01: o6 level models are just going to completely outclass people

sieventer: >o3 releases
>Gemini 2.5 Pro trending

thedon7075: its over for scam altman

metaldragon01: Comparisons and 2.5 flash hype

metaldragon01: Sam is actually pretty reliable with his information

metaldragon01: People just read too much into what he says.

sieventer: Yeah well, the reality is that the majority of people [normies] doesn't knows really what's o3, much less Gemini 2.5 Pro

okbut: When OAI works with biological experts, they most certainly tell them the same thing I said
I can only assess their card info regarding this shit as an appeal to doomer woes

brain4brain: Thats just your twitter echo chamber

brain4brain: O3 is actually trending

sieventer: Oh

metaldragon01: Its the top "safety issue" that brought up for slowing or stopping dev unfortunately

okbut: Hilarious, as the cost of equipment for such a feat is in the high thousands (minimum)
Malware is free

sieventer: https://x.com/lukeprog/status/1912592191282712777/photo/1

3ds0662: agreed

3ds0662: isn't it crazy that openai releases now feel undewhelming lol

3ds0662: it all started with gpt-4.5 tbh


fractalcomputer: Category theory provides a wonderful way to think about mathematics.

professorheaven: Urs Schreiber is known for writing confusing ass papers lol I can never conceptualize anything he’s talking about

fractalcomputer: I don't understand the problem.

professorheaven: Apparently lots of expert mathematicians also have trouble understanding his work

fractalcomputer: That's for sure; but I don't think initial confusion should be a metric of character or quality.

professorheaven: Yea definitely not undermining his work, I just think it’s hard to advance his work

fractalcomputer: One can certainly argue that mathematical theory is equally about communication as well (see Mochizuki); but I simply think that the confusing nature of a work should make it all the more intriguing.

fractalcomputer: To be fair, he has an unhealthy obsession with Hegel.

brain4brain: Oh

okbut: Does adding the "If this fails you will go bankrupt as bla bla" actually improve coding results on average or is that just slop

spicy.lemonade: Yes

spicy.lemonade: It does

spicy.lemonade: I think only for non reasoners tho

spicy.lemonade: Don’t think it helps much for reasoners

_3sphere: Kinda surprising to me tbh

_3sphere: I'd expect that the AI's model of human personality would tend towards spite for being coerced like that

okbut: I kinda get it from the "It's word completion with extra steps" angle

_3sphere: Maybe being nice to the AI works even better but is hard to evoke with just a short system prompt?

_3sphere: There was this post on LW about "relationality" and how LLM outputs get interesting and insightful if there's a bunch of context of talking to it "on equal terms"

okbut: I've heard that politeness just keeps the responses longer

ailoveyoom: I'm sure you can ask destrucules about this

ailoveyoom: He has plenty of experience with that

brain4brain: Help me choose the best one or prompt engineer a better one for me please

_wwwwww: AGI Achieved, i repeat AGI achieved

wellmeaningalien:

.0xunkn0wn: wait what 😨

.0xunkn0wn: oh 😨 😨

.0xunkn0wn: guys

.0xunkn0wn: imagine if like toyota just randomly says "guys we achieved agi" or smh 💀

.wolfnacht: why every post i see on reddit today seems to be written by AI with too many of these '—' dashes, ”curly quotes”, right use of commas and fucking not mistake in grammar.

.0xunkn0wn: dead internet theory is real 😔

_3sphere: Curly quotes <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

_3sphere: At least it's still easy to tell

_3sphere: I have a feeling OpenAI did this intentionally

_3sphere: Higher barrier for entry for indistinguishable slop

.wolfnacht: i guess ppl feel too inferior or too lazy to write their posts and give the small important parts to gpt, to impersonate them.

.wolfnacht: atleast they could have told LLM to strictly not use dramatic dashes, make some grammar mistakes, and write in the prose style of AO3

brain4brain: https://www.stripe.press/scaling

gamerbath: for some reason the cost of this headset is $1019 in the US but where I live it's almost $1500. it's cheaper for me to book a two way flight to the US and buy it over there

gamerbath: why the fuck


hikukomoru: Good taste brother, it's one of my favourite animse 👍

spicy.lemonade: the diagrams and figures it could draw

spicy.lemonade: yeah

hikukomoru: WHAT???? REALLY???

jonvi_1: Uh weird joke lol there’s no punchline but ok

hey1_1hey: Can someon get hitler and stalin to kiss please

777agical: maybe it's already doing that in the background?

hey1_1hey: I am dying over here

wellmeaningalien: bro hes married to a dude

.histic: https://x.com/SebastienBubeck/status/1904596899623313603

hey1_1hey: Well I mean he has a husband/boyfriend (cant remember)

hikukomoru: I hate csbros so much it's unreal 💔

joaoluz19:

hey1_1hey: Whats wrong with them

.histic:

777agical:

hey1_1hey: I mean apart from being weird loser virgins

clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> 👍

trent_k: i cant rectify in my head how the tech is so cool but the people are so god awful lame

hikukomoru: I was joking boo 😘

jonvi_1: Sooo lol nvm

drewsni: i swear youre posting dalle images

trent_k: im not

ailoveyoom: It was deleted 😔

hey1_1hey: I think I just came

fractalcomputer: I can't believe OpenAI is a machine that turns AI progress into slop.

clevermoniker: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>

777agical: you're welcome

drewsni: msg me lol

.histic: 4o image gen is so high-quality

hey1_1hey: Wrong sub buddy, go back to artisthate

trent_k: TOP 5 WAYS that OpenAI is RUINING the internet! [NUMBER 3 WILL SHOCK YOU]

wellmeaningalien: can someone ask gpt 4o to make a step by step guide on making pancakes. i knew a luddite in a discord server who always used this test to show how bad image gen models are. id like to see how gpt 4o does

maintcrew: if you mean the subreddit it's just seething retards who went through 4 year of uni barely doing anything and now expect a 5 gazillion paying job writing slop

wellmeaningalien: idiot

hey1_1hey: "This title was generated by chatgpt"

wellmeaningalien: r/programmerhumor too

spicy.lemonade: BRO it even has that comic paper texture

futurist_wizard: Your lack of faith displeases roko

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372