hey1_1hey: "oi oi boy you right, yeah yeah good mate yeah mate thanks"

hey1_1hey: Theres a very small subset of people who speak welsh in wales and they are all old people

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/snip-snip-gif-27255121

hey1_1hey: I just tell them to speak english because I am not listening to them cat hiss at me

technocake.: yeah but theres definitely a welsh-english dialect

hey1_1hey: Oh you mean wenglish <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hey1_1hey: Its a language that only welsh/english people understand because its compeltly made up

technocake.: orite butt?

hey1_1hey: You get rid of all the sentence strucutre and everything about it and just speak welsh with english sentence structure so it doersnt make any senese

hey1_1hey: Alright but. That one pretty easy

hey1_1hey: Go near londan and you are done for

futurist_wizard: Your testicles be mine

hey1_1hey: You'll either get people speaking like they are being paid to or people who are like "Yo blud run me them shoes yeah or I'll chef you up innit, M5 TQ here me blud? Yeah yeah run that brethanrain"

futurist_wizard: London speak

hikukomoru: I don't understand a single thing you said

futurist_wizard: I still have a voice message from a kid i fought with

futurist_wizard: Its unintelligible

hey1_1hey: A translation would be, give me your shoes because this is a mugging, this is why I am mugging you and this is the gang I am apart of, give me the shoes or I will stab you

futurist_wizard: They say big man ting

futurist_wizard: A lot

hey1_1hey: Oh yeah cant forget that

technocake.: I actually live in london and these people are a tiny minority

hey1_1hey: "Yo was good big man, you right blud"

hey1_1hey: Its funny to see though

hey1_1hey: Go to some rough areas and then it quickly turns into the majoirity

technocake.: most people are foreign but from anywhere, keeping their heads down

futurist_wizard: Big man ting, liveO, dashing, splashing, dip, chef, mapped, blooded

futurist_wizard: It is not a minority where i am from

hey1_1hey: Prob because they are James' from finance and not some big time criminal

hey1_1hey: Same here

futurist_wizard: You are welsh

hey1_1hey: Most people speak like they are speaking another language

technocake.: I think this kind of bullshit is more common in rural towns

hey1_1hey: Not really, it can happen anywhere

hey1_1hey: More common in cities I've found

hey1_1hey: Go to liverpool and good luck understanding a single word they are saying to you

futurist_wizard: Alejandro says big man ting a lot

hey1_1hey: I dont think I've ever heard him say that

hey1_1hey: Liverpool turns normal words into the most unintelligble, the most incomprehensible babble you'll ever here. Work turns to Werk, First goes to ferst, purse goes perse, but goes to bout

futurist_wizard: He threatens to splash people up a lot


trent_k: the other one was better. u gotta leave a little bit to the imagination

fractalcomputer: The burden of meaninglessness is light to bear for some.

hganhhh: who here is good at maps

hey1_1hey: Hey fractal we got are latest troll

hey1_1hey: Hes a real cutie

hganhhh: <@749514473303179358>

hganhhh: wait

hey1_1hey: I mean I got eyes

hganhhh: before you ban me

hganhhh: i have one question for you

hey1_1hey: Dont ban him

hey1_1hey: Hes quirky

hganhhh: please

aero447:

ldj: Apparently these people don't know how copyright works.
the "style" of a work of art is not copyrightable, nor is it considered intellectual property.

fractalcomputer: Well?

hey1_1hey: I am getting blue balled up in here

hey1_1hey: This question better be good

hganhhh: would you smack elons ass if he was quirky like me

hey1_1hey: Well that was a shit question

hikukomoru:

fractalcomputer: Huh.

fractalcomputer: No, I would not.

hey1_1hey: Dont ban him tho.

hganhhh: ok

hey1_1hey: Hes quirky and stuff

fractalcomputer: Do you presume that we all love Musk?

st.sioux: is this guy even a troll he's just boring

hey1_1hey: I mean I fucking hate  the cunt but hey ho

hganhhh: <@482923866600112154>told me y'all do

hganhhh: lol

.0xunkn0wn: what 😭

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-tesla-siliconvalley-dance-twitter-gif-736329299122305506

hikukomoru: We love Elon!

hganhhh: im bringing you down with me

fractalcomputer: Right.

hey1_1hey: Not all AI enthusitits like Elon you melon

joaoluz19: Makoto 🥵

wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/tj_littlejohn/status/1905055253709365278?t=-RDwZfOnq48jfL5z74V4sQ&s=19

wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/tj_littlejohn/status/1905324923259679085?t=3m1QAIKoCMWVQsSf-u-uUA&s=19


sarik0497: I see. I was just curious as it seems like quite a few people still claim that transformers won't be enough (although they are usually the same people who has been saying it for a while), but I suppose that if you continue to add more and more models onto the current architecture (like o3 and o4 being able to "read" photos now), it'll eventually lead to something that's good enough.

Although it does make me question if AGI will then turn out "conscious" as people used to claim, unless they already are, to a minor extent <:Hmm:956951826933112842>

zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1915862298734039482 semis too

luigi_48684: Hey guys, which do you think are the best AI models for generating images and videos?

zonchao: images chatgpt

.0xunkn0wn: guys

.0xunkn0wn: did ya hear oai is planning to buy chrome

gamerbath: I feel like the media makes it sound like they are going to do it, but I think they are just exploring their options

gamerbath: like with the $2k and $20k monthly subcriptions they were talking about, they were just exploring their options and think about what they could do

.histic: images -> 4o
videos -> Kling or Veo 2

himekokatagiri: <@937125337748348999> did you watch the latest AI explained

.histic: nope, y?

himekokatagiri: Yes

.histic: yes'nt

himekokatagiri: gahhhhh all this waiting is killing me

himekokatagiri: 4 years of waiting

.histic: that is if you believe Kurzweil

.histic: always prepare to be disappointed.
AGI or truly economically impactful AI could happen in the 2040s for all we know.
so, i'd say always double or triple your timeline just in case when thinking about life's plans.

himekokatagiri: I'm all in

himekokatagiri: The brainrot is so deep that people get awed by model updates and then by the next week they're bored!!!

.histic: yeah, it can feel relative.
imagine if Cleverbot was o3-level when it came out.
imagine where we'd be right now.

popsiclejohnithan: I'm just following the masses and saying 2027.

himekokatagiri: 2027 is too early

himekokatagiri: Who even came up with that

himekokatagiri: It was that stupid AGI 2027 website

.histic: Dario

.histic: basically

popsiclejohnithan: Earlier anthropic's CEO said 2026/27 was likely for A.G.I. and the A.G.I. countdown says 27 as a medicine

popsiclejohnithan: Yeah pretty much.

popsiclejohnithan: It could be later or earlier honestly, it all depends what happebs down the line.

himekokatagiri: ain't Dario a safety fink

popsiclejohnithan: He is, i think he is holding their models back deliberately.

popsiclejohnithan: I don't see the point when the competition is racing past you.

himekokatagiri: well whatever anthropic is small potatoes

himekokatagiri: it's all Google and OAI now

popsiclejohnithan: Unless they drop a suprise amzing model.

popsiclejohnithan: Yeah i think Google has a good chance, especially with their TPUs, it may be their moat until Open A.I. and others can replicate it.

himekokatagiri: Shame about the censorship policies though

popsiclejohnithan: I know, unless it's instructions on how to make a nuke, Biowepon etc i don't think it should be censored.

popsiclejohnithan: Same with vulger stuff too.

himekokatagiri: I mean even then who's making a nuke


zoermena: Damn

spicy.lemonade: just because

spicy.lemonade: it looks best

spicy.lemonade: loll

wellmeaningalien: youd be correct lmao

drewsni: agi canceled

.histic: bro that's so good.

hikukomoru: No more pretty ladies 😔

spicy.lemonade: others dont look as finished

hey1_1hey: I cant wait to generate me a new profile picture

hey1_1hey: That defintly will not be a women

spicy.lemonade: but im sure tou can make it look that way

hikukomoru: Generate an anime mushroom lady

hikukomoru: And make it ur pfp

drewsni: give me a prompt and ill do it, just half my gens are failing currently

hey1_1hey: I will 😭

joaoluz19: It's so over

hikukomoru: <@88481490228228096>

hey1_1hey: Its litterly that spongebob meme of "I dont need it I dont need it... I NEED IT "

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443

hey1_1hey: Let me do a big ol' think

hikukomoru: It's so over

hikukomoru: FUCK WRONG IMAGE

joaoluz19: I was trying to make a party with Ilya, robots, spaceships and beautiful women 😦

hey1_1hey: Too late

hey1_1hey: Straight to the wank bank

hikukomoru: I wanted to post Chud not anime Mao Zedong

zoermena: I´m so jealous

hey1_1hey: Me to

spicy.lemonade: GIVE ME THE MODEL OPENAI

spicy.lemonade: GIVE IT NOW

hey1_1hey: People talk about jelouse exs. They dont get autistic jelousy I have rn

drewsni: funs over, servers have burned down

zoermena: It´s not working for you either?

spicy.lemonade: no

hey1_1hey: I NEED THE NEW MODEL I AM BEGGING YOU I WILL DO ANYTHING

hikukomoru: Where is AGI 💔

wellmeaningalien:

hey1_1hey: Prob the artists bombing them

hikukomoru: It's over, AI winter is upon us


wellmeaningalien: and not even coding

wellmeaningalien: 😭

wellmeaningalien: i guess the korean sweatshop animators will still have a job

wellmeaningalien: both north korean and south korean

czdct: never in a million years would I have guessed that plot twist

.wolfnacht: https://www.reddit.com/r/thomasthetankengine/comments/1jqyfyo/this_had_no_right_to_get_23_upvotes/

look at this post.

.wolfnacht: they didn't even left thomas the train

futurist_wizard: Its funny how people are cheerful at ai job replacement just because they have the perception that it will accelerate things like ubi even though that isn't necessarily true

futurist_wizard: Well people in here at least

czdct: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

czdct: rip

wellmeaningalien: dw they'll get replaced soon too by mr kling and mr veo

czdct: 2 years from now we'll be able to generate entire mangas and webtoons with AI

czdct: 4 years we'll have animations

wellmeaningalien: thats the dream buddy. its already almost basically here 🤯

czdct: ikr

czdct: I feel like you could already make webtoons with how consistent chatgpt is

futurist_wizard: Veo2 looks pretty good, it'd be interesting to see where we are in 2 years

wellmeaningalien: remember when we thought dalle 3 was the pinnacle of image gen, i thought that it would get so hard to improve it from here, then 4o, mj 7, ideogram 3, we've still yet to reach the roof, it's improving faster and faster

wellmeaningalien: 🤯 🤯 🤯

futurist_wizard: Don't see why you couldn't generate webtoons now?

wellmeaningalien: and with veo 2 making REALLY FUCKING GOOD 2D animated looking shit

wellmeaningalien: i wouldn't say 4 years we have animations

wellmeaningalien: i'd say 2 years

wellmeaningalien: + runway gen 4

wellmeaningalien: <@1352573784422350930> i have something to show you if you dont believe me that animation will be solved in 2 years

czdct: send me

czdct: my estimate is 4 years

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: entirely veo 2 animated

czdct: although I see myself as more conservative

czdct: that's absolutely insane

wellmeaningalien: we havent even unlocked autoregressive video generation like 4o image gen 😮💨 i believe that'll be a huge ass boost to video gen capabilities and consitency too

wellmeaningalien: have you seen the recent anime demo too?

czdct: you might be right

wellmeaningalien: haha am i right

czdct: I hope you are

czdct: the faster the better

czdct: we can finally give berserk a proper anime after all these years

_cloudost: I downloaded a 2D animation course on my PC, now I'm questioning whether it's really worth it to watch the course while current AI can make such animation easily


futurist_wizard: So I don't need it

hikukomoru: I don't care for your Ghibli slop

futurist_wizard: I remember you failed this question

anathemaofmankind: Just use multiple accounts

anathemaofmankind: I do the same with Gemini

Imagine paying for something that's available for free

hikukomoru: I used Gemini to answer
Fault lies with Gemini

futurist_wizard: Multiple accounts? Switching accounts when they get used up? I don't even think i can think of anything gayer

futurist_wizard: 20 dollar isn't that mucy

alejandrozarzuelo: <@458069236825194506> can confirm i am  the best

wellmeaningalien: dumbass

hikukomoru: Stfu

futurist_wizard: At what

alejandrozarzuelo: everything

hikukomoru: Being a pedantic little bitch

futurist_wizard: You are the best at eating poop?

alejandrozarzuelo: one of the most important skills

futurist_wizard: Remember that one time you sent a video of yourself rolling around in a pig pen

futurist_wizard: Why did you do that..

alejandrozarzuelo: ? what

futurist_wizard: Sometimes i feel like im being trolled by you Alejandro

anathemaofmankind: Why aren't you using ai studio

okbut: Habit

wellmeaningalien: ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

spicy.lemonade: slow week

wellmeaningalien: soon we'll be saying slow day

wellmeaningalien: slow hour

rayanquitplayin: I’m watching ESPN

ldj: Waymo so smart

ldj:

oscurrito: what day does google usually release and what time?

brain4brain: There was one a few hours ago

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: using 2.5 deep research

spicy.lemonade: to give me most comprehensive notes of all time

spicy.lemonade: for test

spicy.lemonade: i only get 2 pages

spicy.lemonade: so i asked for 4 pages worth and shrunk text

st.sioux: fuck electronics

zoermena: Is it better than gpt deep research

spicy.lemonade: idk


metaldragon01: We actually got o4 model in April

.histic: but i like the chat UI <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
also, it would be nice if in the API they allowed you to determine its thinking time.
they said they would add that feature ages ago.

metaldragon01: 3 month beats continue

okbut: I most definitely do NOT like the chat UI

okbut: But that's because it's so far behind

metaldragon01: We might even see o6 series level models this year

777agical: competition has heated up noticeably as of late, we are entering the cycle where product is becoming the focus

okbut: April 2025 and still no lazy loading on chats

ldj: my 2 fav benchmarks rn are METR time horizons and Enigma Eval, im gonna keep my eye on those.

hikukomoru: You mean o3 and o4 mini?

ldj: METR time horizons is the only one that I think allows us to actually compare models all the way since GPT-2 though, and simultaneously doesn't have a ceiling either

metaldragon01: Metr has Said the doubling time is faster than they expected btw

ldj: lol

okbut: Saud

metaldragon01: Lol

ldj: I thought you were trying to say something about saudis or something lmfao

spicy.lemonade: wait

spicy.lemonade: so is it going by that other doubling time now?

spicy.lemonade: like there were 2

metaldragon01: Ai explained mention in his o3 review going over the paper

metaldragon01: It was every 6 or 7 months but it's shorter than that for doubling the time horizon of task

metaldragon01: We've doubled from claude 3.7 thinking to the o3 jump

.histic: SimpleBench just got updated

metaldragon01: There's a new king in town (for now)

.histic: not a huge jump, but noticeable.

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: this?

spicy.lemonade: 😔 2%

metaldragon01: Yeap. Been updated with o3 . I haven't read the paper but ai explained went over it

777agical: what place we think o4 mini will get here

metaldragon01: We are at 2 hour task now

.coldcall: the double exponential is real?

.histic: it's already on the leaderboard

metaldragon01: In less than 1 year 8 hour task on this trend

metaldragon01: 8 hour task plus reliable computer work is my agi

777agical: 8th I see

.histic: pretty low on the leaderboard, but relatively speaking, o3-mini-high got 23rd. so, that's a good sign.
o3 has a better world model since its base is GPT-4o, rather than GPT-4o-mini.

metaldragon01: So far my 2 year old timeline is holding up for my personal definition

777agical: MCP+A2A+GPT5+CUA(operator)

777agical: <:ez:1136267305521774634>


drewsni: Almost every ai ceo, researcher, cluster janitor etc have been tweeting about their servers being fucked for the last week

drewsni: It’s actually kinda crazy that it seems like this past week has been the largest difference between demand and capacity for almost every lab

zoermena: Interesting extremely likely due to word of mouth and new ships but saying that data center capex is going to 0 just seems stupid.

zoermena: On the contrary this invites for the capex to go higher. For those who don’t know (y’all are extremely intelligent so you might know already) but this is the financial term for the amount of money invested into developing business in general.

drewsni: It was sarcasm there if you’re talking about him and not who he is referencing

zoermena: I meant Dylan Patel but I didn’t click the link, I don’t have X so it can get problematic seeing who posted who. I didn’t know, my b.

drewsni: It’s all good, Dylan is the goat of datacenter analysis if you were unaware.

drewsni: He’s likely currently modelling  capex spending upwards due to the events of the last two weeks

zoermena: I should probably get X on my phone, I just have it as a back up for NSFW and wallpapers but there’s a lot of hidden gems.

.histic:

.histic:

anathemaofmankind: Asmongold talks about the luddite twitter seething.

Very based takes and truth pilled from Zack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDuc932pToc&ab_channel=AsmongoldTV

drewsni:

.histic: "hate me all you want, that doesn't change the fact that is what's going to happen" <:LOL:1187460826572005436> <:based:1136264604788473946>

brain4brain: We should ban all antis off the internet

anathemaofmankind: Luddites think of AI art in a vacuum.

They forget AI art is just part of a trillion dollar industry aimed to automate workers backed by massive companies and governments. The latter for science and reducing bureaucracy.

Even if AI art was stigmatized out of existence, other forms of automation will continue in a ceaseless tide.

You would have to somehow regulate or stigmatize all forms of AI to stop the main contention, the displacement of jobs, and loss of work considered as "intelligent".

And good luck doing that for the entire world

hikukomoru: Quick
Someone Ghiblify this

.histic:

.histic: yeah, well said.

st.sioux:

drewsni: its so good goddamn

.histic: [r/singularity post](https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jn2259/why_do_people_think_ai_art_is_a_good_thing/)
bro, some people are too far gone.

anathemaofmankind: This looks kinda shit idk.

Like early version of MJ

anathemaofmankind: This same person called someone an incel because they liked AI

st.sioux: lol they really want to be living in a hut and get eaten by lions

metaldragon01: V7 samples on the discord btw

.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ...

drewsni: except it can 1 shot text

a1c4p0ne: Got 6 months free Gemini advanced

drewsni: how

.histic: umm, where can i get that?

.histic: is it a regional thing

a1c4p0ne: Got new Samsung phone <@937125337748348999> <@88481490228228096>

drewsni: hell yeah

a1c4p0ne: S25

.histic: well, congrats.

a1c4p0ne: Thx

anathemaofmankind: That's not really impressive anymore

alejandrozarzuelo: They'd die of tuberculosis first

a1c4p0ne: No one’s talking about perplexity anymore


nsec: allow me to introduce myself

nsec: my name is nsec

and if you’ll indulge me, I’d like to change the world

nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633>

aero447:

gamerbath: no

aero447: Derya confirms o4 full.

aero447: You have something against o4?

gamerbath: he doesn't even work at OAI. it's just speculation

aero447: He's an early tester we know he gets access.

gamerbath: I think o4 will be in GPT-5

hikukomoru: He doesn't work FOR them but he works WITH them

gamerbath: if he did have access to any info, he would be under an NDA, meaning he wouldn't be allowed to post like that

nsec: oshit

nsec: here he come

hikukomoru: He also works with DeepMind

hikukomoru: He's not a random guy

nsec: that long text writer mam

nsec: <:allsalute:797931437973569556>

ldj: it's technologically unique from the standpoint that you would need probably atleast dozens of terabytes of google earth data on your computer in order to achieve the same thing locally, where-as this is able to achieve it with a set of weights that would may be less than 300GB on your PC

hikukomoru:

ailoveyoom: Btw is full o3 the only one with tool use?

ailoveyoom: Or does o4-mini have that too?

gamerbath: o4-mini too I believe

a1c4p0ne: It’s <@505313122802728972>

nsec: <:what:709111458461646948>

gamerbath: I don't see why they would give o3 tool use but ditch it for o4

nsec: my mini cooper has tools ya

nsec: <:veryyes:773617399660412960>

literallyvarane: From a business perspective I would assume the Google streets api is cheaper, though I’m unclear if street view images are included.

Given OpenAI is still using API, there’s no meaningful difference since neither can be run locally. The Google maps would *actually* be a 1:1 comp of that site at some point in time. OpenAI’s would be a more expensive, less accurate comp.

nsec: owait I remember u u that weirdo w gooning as his status do not react to me

nsec: <:CB_worry:922068673529790495>

nsec: oh wait no by mad dawg thats not u srry

zonchao: <@505313122802728972> is this true

literallyvarane: The only case this would actually be a superior product is in cases where there’s no street view coverage.

literallyvarane: And given then. Depending on your use case sat imagery might be the preferred for the sake of accuracy.

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/aitor-gif-7084060237011549479

hikukomoru: True, real, and based

himekokatagiri: <@505313122802728972> hello komoru

himekokatagiri: how is it going

ldj: I agree its probably cheaper, I think I just fundamentally disagree with the notion of "interesting" requiring a unique business proposition basically. But to each their own I suppose.


ailoveyoom: Def play KoA: RR tho 😤

a1c4p0ne: Genshin is boring

spicy.lemonade: Beautiful

spicy.lemonade: How does it pick an art style

anathemaofmankind: It's fun for the first five months.

Which is more than some AAA games and it's free so 🤷♂

.wolfnacht: genshit*

a1c4p0ne: I played 2 hours and got bored of it

anathemaofmankind: To each their own I guess

a1c4p0ne: <:based:1136264604788473946>

a1c4p0ne: Albion online is fun

spicy.lemonade: I need the next big thing nowwwe

spicy.lemonade: Dopamine depleted

spicy.lemonade: I won’t be satisfied until fdvr atp

anathemaofmankind: Most patient r/singularity user

spacetimetsunami:

.wolfnacht: i bought new atelier but didn't played yet.

spicy.lemonade: Like imagine agi drops then what

spicy.lemonade: How are you gonna use

anathemaofmankind: The world changes

spacetimetsunami: will you know its agi

spacetimetsunami: or will you guys move goal posts -_-

spicy.lemonade: Assuming they announce it

anathemaofmankind: We'll probably go extinct imo

spicy.lemonade: As agi

spacetimetsunami: y do you think this goofball

spicy.lemonade: When agi drops ill make a few triple A games

spicy.lemonade: Then

spicy.lemonade: Get bored

spicy.lemonade: lol

anathemaofmankind: Goverments will use AGI for war

spicy.lemonade: Then I’ll start asking for asi

anathemaofmankind: Imagine Trump with AGI

.wolfnacht: most gacha's are shit, except character and world design...they will prey on your gamble mindset and silently make you go homeless.

spicy.lemonade: When asi drops then I’ll start asking for fdvr

a1c4p0ne: what if someone crazy uses AGI to plan attacks

anathemaofmankind: Wuthering Waves is good

spacetimetsunami: itll likely just not do it.

anathemaofmankind: You assume AGI will have agency

st.sioux: why "likely"

anathemaofmankind: In the sense that it refuses orders


ailoveyoom: Why not do the other throat thing 😔

sweetievee__33649: ill pivot to mongolian horse racing

sweetievee__33649: seems like a good strategy

drewsni: Can a German confirm or deny that you cannot use your own garage

spicy.lemonade: Where feature

sweetievee__33649: which one

futurist_wizard:

joaoluz19: Guys what is avatar?

spicy.lemonade: The last airbender

hikukomoru: You don’t know what an avatar is

joaoluz19: I knew someone was going to make that joke

joaoluz19: I mean... how would this be integrated into gpt

joaoluz19: I haven't seen any news about

ldj: Be nice

ldj: Also

st.sioux: we dont need news or sources

st.sioux: we have visions

ldj: True:

sweetievee__33649: so whats this supposed "new feature"

anathemaofmankind: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1910378768172212636

sweetievee__33649: well thats pretty neat

sweetievee__33649: thank you I

anathemaofmankind: You're welcome

anathemaofmankind: I think it sucks tbh

metaldragon01: Errr I've had this for a while

literallyvarane: Ain’t no way this merited a tweet from him lolollololol

sweetievee__33649: why do you think that then? isnt infinite memory exactly what we need

sweetievee__33649: a key step to AGI id say

literallyvarane: I need GPT 4.20

st.sioux: i dont like this feature

anathemaofmankind: I don't want ChatGPT to randomly bring up shit in a new convo.

Imagine roleplaying and then it brings up unrelated characters from past chats

st.sioux: yeah

literallyvarane: I do hope it’s toggleable, or could be turned off for certain chats?

sweetievee__33649: i guess you could tell it not to

sweetievee__33649: at the start

ailoveyoom: How is the new memory different from the old memory?

sweetievee__33649: old memory was limited

literallyvarane: Probably just stronger

sweetievee__33649: this is unlimited it seems

ailoveyoom: No provider goes into detail on how their model's memory works 😔


hikukomoru: See you get it

spicy.lemonade: there needs to be commercial ozempic

hey1_1hey: Yanno that livestream? The twink wont be there <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

hey1_1hey:

hikukomoru: Didn't know you were fat

spicy.lemonade: im not

spicy.lemonade: quite fit actualy

hikukomoru: Lol
Was right to not get hyped

futurist_wizard: Too many fat bitches around

spicy.lemonade: ong

drewsni: kevin weil i think is the new "boss" that does livestreams when sams not there  so thats a good sign still

hikukomoru: Why do you want ozempic then

fractalcomputer: Obviously, that is because he is a spokesperson.

spicy.lemonade: thats what im saying

spicy.lemonade: I dont need ozempic

hikukomoru: Don't call women bitches

darkstar0818: What if I am just as insulting to men?

spicy.lemonade: in this context theyre refering to all people

spicy.lemonade: not just women

hikukomoru: It's fine if it only refers to men

futurist_wizard: Spicy is my lawyer

spicy.lemonade: 💀

futurist_wizard: He will defend my statement

darkstar0818: Where is my equality?

hikukomoru: I hate equality

futurist_wizard: I will dehumanise men and women equally

spicy.lemonade:

darkstar0818: An honest bigot, I love to see it.

zonchao: you sound like a bitch

hikukomoru: I am

ailoveyoom: 🏖

hikukomoru: Bigoted and proud 💪

fractalcomputer: Birds are number theorists at heart.

zonchao: birds are advanced DJI drones

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/schedule-schedule-1-steam-game-drugs-gif-8070089552193078416

darkstar0818: oh look its the most popular game right now

zonchao: it is a good game

zonchao: lots of updates coming too

zonchao: dev made bank


trojan09205: This dog is splatted

zoermena: True

trojan09205: I pretty much take hot sauce or middle eastern schug with everything i eat

a1c4p0ne:

trey6033: Gemini just exited victory road

trey6033: And iirc no llm has ever passed victory road prior to this

zonchao: ITS OVER

zonchao: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

zonchao: <a:sadman:857787967825379378>

zonchao: https://x.com/jimcramer/status/1918314283055694207?

alejandrozarzuelo: great

trojan09205: Cringe lmao

zonchao: i think it's kinda cute actually

zonchao: Jim is a boomer

trojan09205: I guess in a way lmao

himekokatagiri: Maybe if Jim was a cute girl

realelonmuskx: I MUST REPOPULATE

himekokatagiri: Calm down

fractalcomputer: I wonder how you manage to keep this bit up.

himekokatagiri: It's not a bit

himekokatagiri: duh

himekokatagiri: Assume every 'ironic' poster is unironic

himekokatagiri: Sincerity is dead

.0xunkn0wn: i think i broke chatgpt

.0xunkn0wn: i technically hit the limit for 4o

.0xunkn0wn: but i can still ask it 😭

trent_k:

trent_k: llm trained on this chat

.0xunkn0wn:

.0xunkn0wn: 😳

.0xunkn0wn: wtf

.0xunkn0wn:

.0xunkn0wn: a few seconds ago it said 3 am 😭

himekokatagiri: Can you do meeee

himekokatagiri: I'd just use gemini

_3sphere: Am I in the training set

.0xunkn0wn: the conversation is already too far to change model now 😔

.0xunkn0wn: i mean

.0xunkn0wn: i could try but

hikukomoru: I see myself there


.wolfnacht: QwQ did better with 32B

st.sioux: how can it be so bad

st.sioux: lol

hikukomoru: 4chan brainrot

.wolfnacht: idk i think u misread

.wolfnacht: L4 scout is worse than grok-2

hikukomoru:

.wolfnacht: L4 maverick is worse than QwQ-32B

hikukomoru: No nefarious meaning

hikukomoru: Kind of embarrassing tbh

_cloudost: Mark Suckerberg

hikukomoru: Stay away from 4chan

okbut: New code generation SOTA with 10M context window?

.wolfnacht: https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/meta-hit-with-new-author-copyright-lawsuit-over-ai-training-2024-10-02/

why all bad things happen to Meta

.wolfnacht: this was the reason for shitty writing

okbut: How do you think OAI feels

_cloudost:

hikukomoru: Atleast Meta drops nice papers I guess lol

hikukomoru: I’m going to blame LeCun for this

.wolfnacht: and then shitty model

zonchao: yea

zonchao: it seems likely meta knew next week is going to be the shit

.wolfnacht: LeCun + butthurt authors who sued.

zonchao: https://x.com/dylan522p/status/1908721246231056618?

hikukomoru: Tbh that’s sort of how Google started
The best papers of all time, and then dogshit models
But Meta isn’t Google

.wolfnacht: cuckerberg had the data of half of globe, still came up with shit.

okbut: Just one more $1 billion in VR bro

memlaswaif: not really

clevermoniker: this is why the head of AI left recently

clevermoniker: i guess

memlaswaif: Need to see their reasoning model

hikukomoru: It's going to be dogshit

hikukomoru: I'm now a Meta hater

.wolfnacht: Yeah, its winter but for Open Source

st.sioux: watch r2 drop on monday

.wolfnacht: except china comes again and shakes things up

hikukomoru: Xi Jinping is gonna save us 🙏

hikukomoru: Unrelated image

zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Tslachan/status/1908149178200653951? i love my people

.wolfnacht: i believe deepseek's gonna aim around gemini-2.5-pro for R2.. i hope that happens


wellmeaningalien: Still no fucking 4o image gen

futurist_wizard: Almost perfect

hikukomoru: WHAT

hey1_1hey: Thats me right there

a1c4p0ne: You’re his favorite femboy

hey1_1hey: Logic down the drain

_3sphere: The recency effect is fucking haunted man

_3sphere: I saw "cogitation" twice recently

_3sphere: WH40K cogitator and a LW post

hikukomoru: I still can't wrap my head around the fact that he's the same age as me
It's like a middle school kid coming up to me and saying "hey I'm 20 too"

_3sphere: No hyperphantasia needed 😭

hikukomoru: I'm no one's femboy

a1c4p0ne: What about <@749514473303179358>

a1c4p0ne: He’s your daddy

_3sphere: How bright/clear were the dots?

.wolfnacht: wasn't nate some character in pokemon ?

hikukomoru: Fractal doesn't like femboys he likes 6'8 Finnish Lumberjacks

a1c4p0ne: lol

hey1_1hey: Don't compare me to a middle schooler 😭

ailoveyoom: Idk I only played the games lol

ailoveyoom: Mushroom man is kinda a middle school username tho 😈

hikukomoru: Plus the fact that MichMach is like 5'1 or smth

hikukomoru: That's like 7 year old height

a1c4p0ne: Taller than you right

hey1_1hey: I've been caught

ailoveyoom: Bros made up my height 😭

hikukomoru: I'm 163 cm

a1c4p0ne: lol

hey1_1hey: Get that weird ass measurement out of here.

hikukomoru: Weren't you around 5'2

ailoveyoom: Oh no she's hotttt

ailoveyoom: Is it weird I don't have it memorized 🤔

hey1_1hey: Mich mach is fun sized. Or atleast thats what I got called the other day

hey1_1hey: I dont know to take it as a compliment or insult tho

hikukomoru: And I imagine all subs to be short

hey1_1hey: Thats because they are

_3sphere: I'm ~180 cm

st.sioux: moichmach are u a dude

wellmeaningalien: lmao someone basically just made porn with gpt 4o

futurist_wizard: Anything below 190 is manlet


zoermena: Big drops

zoermena: Are they easily accessible rn?

zoermena: <:google:1243723589715496990>

retrerox: So are we close or far from AGI?

zoermena: Closer, always

drewsni: Did a google event happen or something

metaldragon01: Google is happening

spacetimetsunami: AGI ~ (capable of automating huge sectors of knowledge work) likely in 2027 and 8, both physical and cognitive 2030

spacetimetsunami: Source - Me (I never lie)

futurist_wizard: Far fam

drewsni: I need them to give me flash 2.5 for free again for a week so I can use 100k worth of api for free

metaldragon01: Timelines may have moved up 4 to 6 months

metaldragon01: Improvements are insane atm

zoermena: Fuck me I guess

spacetimetsunami: Which improvements are you referring to

metaldragon01: Well....let's wait to see flash 2.5

st.sioux: in 70 minutes

st.sioux: https://cloud.withgoogle.com/next/25

_cloudost:

theaiguy69420_89814: lol google actually winning rn

retrerox: Can we talk about the fact we might get AGI before GTA 6?

theaiguy69420_89814: lol

futurist_wizard: No

literallyvarane: Does anyone know if deep research by Google is better at… non-research things?

literallyvarane: Like “can you design a general system m that does XYZ?” Is it better at that?

retrerox: Idk ask me and i can try out

retrerox: i have advanced gemini i just dont know how to use it

wellmeaningalien: https://blog.google/products/google-cloud/ironwood-tpu-age-of-inference/

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: number go wheeeee

wellmeaningalien:

wellmeaningalien: is this why theyre serving gemini 2.5 pro for so damn cheap?

wellmeaningalien: this shit is why opneai wants to spend a trillion bucks making their own chips too

metaldragon01: Early take off vibes tbh

ailoveyoom: https://fxtwitter.com/allen_ai/status/1909954525625999543?t=YzB_flIAgZcrocTXtZf3Ng&s=19

ailoveyoom: It's not embedding the video 😔

ailoveyoom: Imagine if OAI rented Google TPUs for inference <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

literallyvarane: Huh. I’m not sure what would be a good example to test this?

Maybe two different questions.

1. Suppose we live in a world where the  United States was still part of the British empire. What different historical events might explain what lead to that occurring? How might the ‘modern’ British empire and global geopolitical environment look in that context?

2. I’m trying to write a program to systematically use an LLM to consume all fiction written for the 40k (or any sufficiently large fictional universe), and then identify and write compelling new story arcs. How might you structure such a program?

Each of these >>> 2.5 vs 2.5 deep research?

literallyvarane: Neither of those are *really* “just look this up” questions. But they’re higher level which would benefit from much more reasoning and supplemental research.

literallyvarane: I’m not sure if there’s a rate limit for these things, so don’t feel the need to test these lolol. I don’t want to use your DR uses if they’re limited.


zonchao: lmaooo

drewsni: this is what i thought you meant at first

zonchao: spacex 7 launches 2015
bo 2 launches

zonchao: 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

darkstar0818: you may be too young to remember that competition back then.

zonchao: not the unc card 😭

zonchao: i surrender

darkstar0818: cheers

zonchao: https://x.com/docmilanfar/status/1915610559166263439? (Google)

darkstar0818: remember when meta dropped and everyone was all hype for like 24 hours?

darkstar0818: Feel The Vesperance owes me a beer

joaoluz19: Folks, there is a lot of talk about everything that singularity will offer that we don't have. But what things would you like to preserve, what things would you not like to lose?

ldj: u

ldj: and everyone else in this server

ldj: <:hap:820511458613395477>

joaoluz19: I cried

joaoluz19: Deep

joaoluz19: I also hope that if wgmi I can see you guys later

spicy.lemonade: fuck you all ill be mariokarting with hookers in the metaverse

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: how close are we to this

spicy.lemonade: highest frontier math is still 18%

spicy.lemonade: we need an ungodly jump from gpt5

spicy.lemonade: highest os world is 41%

.histic: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
why is OpenAI's projected revenue in 2025 as a marker there.

.histic: i believe they get funded by them

spicy.lemonade: cause theyre the top AI company

return_to_monke1_33974: this hypes me up so much

spicy.lemonade: wtf

spicy.lemonade: thats from ege

spicy.lemonade: ege is the most doomer at epoch

return_to_monke1_33974: really?

spicy.lemonade: he thinks agi 2045+

spicy.lemonade: yes

return_to_monke1_33974: if he thinks AGI 2045 then why this predictions?

spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw&t=1986s&pp=ygUJZWdlIGVyZGls

spicy.lemonade: he thinks 30 years away

spicy.lemonade: he doesnt think theyl be able to learn dynamically and do long horizon tasks or wtv

spicy.lemonade: and be a drop in remote worker

spicy.lemonade: he was a top 10 forcaster on metacalculus though


wellmeaningalien: wow

hey1_1hey: I gotta go show my art friend this

drewsni: ive done a lot of experiments with low poly image gen and 99% of the time theres only like half the image thats low poly, even with massive loras

wellmeaningalien: COOOKED COOOOOKED COOOOOOOOOOOOKED

oooooooooog: ai is no longer the meme o_o

wellmeaningalien: LUDDITE GUY I KNEW USED TO MAKE FUN OF DALLE FOR NOT GETTING THIS

drewsni: ITS FUCKING OVER

hikukomoru: RIP artists

drewsni: this ones not mine i just found it

wellmeaningalien: C.O.O.K.E.D.

hey1_1hey: I think if I show my art friends this they might kill themselfs

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

wellmeaningalien: bro the temptation to show this to people who hate AI

spicy.lemonade: NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

wellmeaningalien: im in so many servers with this kind of people

zoermena: Sorry for insisting upon myself but did you found it on Sora or on X? Thanks!

spicy.lemonade: "show me the layers"

hikukomoru: r/artisthate bros...

spicy.lemonade: artists always ask this

hey1_1hey: I need to go into artist hate and show them "my tutorial"

drewsni: which one u like the most?

wellmeaningalien: truth is; i showed a 4o image in a server that hates AI and they didnt notice a thing

zoermena: Finally it worked it took way to long to make an image of a cat jesus

spacetimetsunami: i was able to use it but guess not now, will come back 2 it later

drewsni: sora! fitlered under remixes

tors.exe: is 4o image available to everyone ?

zoermena:

spacetimetsunami: not me rn\

hikukomoru: Nope

zoermena: Incredible, this means it can do PNGs.

tors.exe: me too !

hey1_1hey: I want it to make an ad thats like "Artisthate doesn't want you to know this, artists are in shock!"

joaoluz19:

hikukomoru: Sorry Your Holiness

hey1_1hey: Prob top left, although I got something in mind

hey1_1hey: I'll just wait for 4o image gen so I can finetune the prompt I want. I dont want to hassle you generating images all day <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Brooo he's tryna steal your girl!!!

drewsni: fair enough lol

zoermena: Midjourney will take a big hit.

hey1_1hey: Luz would never


zoermena: Does this warrant a jizz

hey1_1hey: Give me benchamrks I beg

spicy.lemonade: HES TALKING ABOUT WHAT I POSTED

futurist_wizard: It still can't suck me, it's worthless

ailoveyoom: What did they say before I came?

spicy.lemonade: YOOOO

hey1_1hey: Lets run it

hey1_1hey: These guys need to talk faster

hey1_1hey: I need more infomation in my ears

hikukomoru: Greg said "AGI is here"

spicy.lemonade: IM NUTING

hey1_1hey: Thats some imagees

zoermena: No way?

hey1_1hey: WOW

.0xunkn0wn: omggggg

hey1_1hey: THIS SHIT GOES CRAZY

st.sioux: eeeek

ailoveyoom: <:suseye:1187461162024046703>

neon01197: "zooming in on figure 3" dey cookd

hey1_1hey: NOVEL IDEAS

zoermena: AGI before GTA6?

hey1_1hey: Yeah this is cooking

hey1_1hey: Its doing stuff that I dont even know whats its doing which is a good start

drewsni: this just killed my startup

hikukomoru: Giggling and kicking my feet rn

futurist_wizard: O4 searching the web for rule34

hey1_1hey: This just made me bust

srirachamayosauce:

hey1_1hey: Thats some crazy formatting bruh

hey1_1hey: Get that shit outta here

futurist_wizard: Bareback

hey1_1hey: If o3 can do this imagine what o4mini can do

drewsni: so o3 is just shallow research? lol

spicy.lemonade: just?

professorheaven: isnt o4 mini basically o3 but faster?

hey1_1hey: Not sure

aero447: It's literally mid.

spicy.lemonade: the stream just started gang

drewsni: i just mean turns out deep research was this the whole time, (systems, not just search)

neon01197: https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/16/openai-debuts-codex-cli-an-open-source-coding-tool-for-terminals/


st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/orange-orange-role-goku-dbz-shut-up-gif-14829044495367638060

fractalcomputer: They tested both self-described Christians from the Bible belt and Muslims from Kabul.

fractalcomputer: Roughly 200~300 people from each group (iirc). Both men and women alike.

ldj: I wonder if they had any filtering criteria, for example a lot of people that *claim* to be christians don't actually truly believe in god or biblical events when you ask them directly about it.

fractalcomputer: I'd have to look it up. I've shared it here previously.

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: Ai story telling is beyond comprehension

wellmeaningalien: someone who describes themselves as pertaining to a certain faith is much more likely to hold religious beliefs than someone who describes themselves as irreligious anywho lol

wellmeaningalien: that might impact the data a little bit but i dont imagine it'd matter that much in the end

ldj: > someone who describes themselves as pertaining to a certain faith is much more likely to hold religious beliefs than someone who describes themselves as irreligious

Yes but the point is that someone who describes themselves as having a literal belief in the god are even more likely to hold religous beliefs than the people who are just calling themselves Christian.

destrucules: He's back!

destrucules: Haven't seen you in a while

ldj: I've been around every couple days still I think, just probably less frequent messages per day

destrucules: Well it's nice to see you anyway

zonchao: https://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/1906858302618927182? <@439829942310666250> <@88481490228228096>

wellmeaningalien: yeah guess so but i mean the point here's to compare religious and irreligious right

wellmeaningalien: on god bro

ldj: Yes but I think it would just be interesting to measure a different perspective too and to see if devout christians are even better pattern recognizers than just the average christian.

.histic: was initially sympathetic to artists 2 years ago, just as i was to people who would be automated by AI in the long-run, but over time their reaction to it has become like a baby crying. at least programmers used it and joked about getting automated.

wellmeaningalien: yeah guess thats true

.histic: that code is soulless.

ldj: also I think it would be interesting to see if people that were born into an atheist family but converted to religion later in life maybe have even stronger pattern recognition.

fractalcomputer: Refined distinctions weren't the subject of the study. What was found that the religious groups performed a bit better in terms of speed and quality in pattern recognition than the self-described irreligious or something like that.

.histic: https://x.com/ShitpostRock/status/1906861372702355910
wait, this is the reply he had under his tweet. <:bruh:1187466327028408390>
banger post, pandering reply.

drewsni: https://x.com/neetrights/status/1907072073068900812?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw

we should use the term Reddit slop more often

.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

hikukomoru: >@NEETRights
lmao

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zoermena: <@937125337748348999> I actually went ahead and worked out.

.histic: >> AI Art -> "Soulless slop that doesn't understand art".
>> LLM intelligence -> "Doesn't understand anything, just a regurgitating machine."

they always will act like this.

zoermena: I’m absolutely fucked I couldn’t sleep since 3am

.histic: wait, what time did u wake up?

zoermena: 3am intended to wake up at 5, I lost my sleep

zoermena: I’m here working doing some data entry at the speed of a snail

zoermena: I’m not locked in

.histic: wait, ur job is remote? or is that just school work

zoermena: No my in real life adult job, not remote

.histic: damn, multitasking. 🔥

sweetievee__33649: they really are though artists complain so much it makes me lose sympathy for them


return_to_monke1_33974: i hope gemini can vibe transfer me 1 bilion in my bank acount 🙏

.0xunkn0wn: and in 2023 image/video generators were so bad people thought they wouldnt recover

spicy.lemonade: if everyone has a trading bot then no one has a trading bot :(

.0xunkn0wn: people who will want to have it will do

.0xunkn0wn: cuz some people are just

.0xunkn0wn: making life miserable for themselves, not doing anything even though they could

3e47f5: having a trading bot running is risky

3e47f5: if you don't know what you're doing

3e47f5: which most people don't

3e47f5: sometimes the safe route is good too

3e47f5: i know this server is about the singularity and acceleration, but maybe sitting back and watching it unfold can be comforting and preparing for it might not be that necessary after all?

alejandrozarzuelo: i hope the peasant convo was about the unfortunate comments of the US VP

trent_k:

3e47f5: classic

trent_k: i think i recorded this back in like 2023 and its still happening

3e47f5: yeah i think it was a joke

dean_martin: It’s more about how the peasant class has been diminished especially since the Deng era reforms

3e47f5: but it's still funny tho i remember when you first sent it

alejandrozarzuelo: since?

alejandrozarzuelo: there is no peasant class in china anymore

trent_k: here definitely

trent_k: i still see the people who are serious every now and then tho

trent_k: i wonder what happened to them

trent_k: i used to hear about it a lot more

3e47f5: they heard this recording

trent_k: ive epicly owned them, gamer style

trent_k: i just L-L-LEVELED UP on uneducated internet users

trent_k: +5 XP

dean_martin: I mean sure the peasant class is largely no longer existent but there’s still a rural underclass that gets branded peasant

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean, i guess if you wanna call rednecks peasants too... although it feels like an abuse of terminology

3e47f5:

3e47f5: maybe they need to hear this one

fractalcomputer: "They're not peasants... they're just disparaged citizens from typically less urban areas."

trent_k: abby shapiro please

trent_k: have you seen how people live in like rural louisiana? nothing against them but they're definitely part of the american peasant class

fractalcomputer: Trent, where in the States were you from again?

trent_k: pennsylvania, but I've lived all over. my wife and I used to live in a travel trailer and so we moved all over the states

alejandrozarzuelo: thats precisely the abuse of terminology i think some poeple use

i do get it, ruralites here are uneducated, simpletons that are so local that nationalism to them seems like an opeining of their eyes

But even tho i dont like those sorts of people i woudnt call them peasants

fractalcomputer: Right. Would you ever have happened to read McCarthy's scripture?

fractalcomputer: Cormac. Cormac McCarthy's.


callmepyro: 2.5 flash non-thinking scoring 74% on GPQA Diamond when full 4.1 scores 66% is nuts

callmepyro: I think this means that 2.5 flash is now the best non-thinking model?

_cloudost:

gamerbath: maybe that model is just going to be used in GPT-5

gamerbath: that's what I think

trey6033: https://x.com/lmarena_ai/status/1912979323734425948?t=TyWExZCG-cl8BdEcaDFCPA&s=19

drewsni: That’s pretty bad actually lol

trey6033: Right behind o4 mini

drewsni: 4.1 mini

trey6033: Oh yep misread, I see o4 isn't on there yet

ldj: I don't think I've ever gotten a response this random from ChatGPT
I'm literally asking it about tech stocks and revenue projections and stuff and then it randomly says this.
I don't even ever talk about controversial political stuff with ChatGPT so it can't be from my memories either. I've never even heard of the "Islamic revolutionary guard" before

ldj:

drewsni: Wonder if it’s related to the openrouter issue yesterday where people were getting random responses

zoermena: Is 2.5 flash <:Google:350385023289131008> any good?

futurist_wizard: How did google go from having the most trash models to the best

ldj: This is in the native chatgpt interface btw

ldj: not a third party chat app

ldj: and it's GPT-4o

zonchao: you can just do things

zoermena: Insanely rich company with tons of preexisting compute at their disposal

gamerbath: I thought o4-mini was good at tool calling

gamerbath: it's very slow. I haven't tried o3 in cursor yet but I imagine it's going to be like a giant turtle

hikukomoru: TPUs + infinite money + best researchers in the world

gamerbath: I haven't used o4-mini much in cursor yet, but it did something I had gemini 2.5 pro struggle with earlier

futurist_wizard: I guess google may win after all

futurist_wizard: And by win

futurist_wizard: Be ahead by a few weeks

futurist_wizard: Don't realistically see any of these companies being months ahead anymore

drewsni: FWIW it was happening in the playground too with images for the first 30 minutes of launch

ldj: wtf again!

ldj:

ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>

literallyvarane: I'mma need that full prompt

gamerbath: dude it's still going. It has been 20 minutes and it's still going

gamerbath: it hasn't even done that much, just grepped and read 10 files, all its own tool call. idk how Cursor can price this at 5 cents because surely this costs more than that

st.sioux: selling ur data

st.sioux: $$$

gamerbath: that could be

gamerbath: this thing is so fucking slow

zonchao: <@590577270926868480> sama is spreading pro israel propaganda/s


realelonmuskx: we all gonna be dead in 2050 lmao

alejandrozarzuelo: Finally, some controversial opinion

alejandrozarzuelo: I swear people say "hot take" and then drop the most agreeable shit ever

futurist_wizard: All your moms starving for this dick

alejandrozarzuelo: Lifetimes? It's likely that it will happen in the next 10 years

jonvi_1: Any existentialist ideas to add to this / the theme I’m exploring here?

alejandrozarzuelo: I want them to come at me

alejandrozarzuelo: I can take them

zoermena: True

alejandrozarzuelo: Btw

alejandrozarzuelo: My local debate club expelled me because I criticised the president

And I crashed their funds and opened a corruption investigation

If artists want to fight me, I have a lot of experience using the law on my side

alejandrozarzuelo: Also

Idk about others but I WANT Math to be automated away

alejandrozarzuelo: Why wouldn't artists want the same?

st.sioux: Loss of human expression i assume

st.sioux: and also their livelihood

st.sioux: for the minority

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: No b plan in the event of them having no income source

zoermena: Most don’t have a plan b

.histic: what would this look like?

jonvi_1: Did he eat his other kids?

futurist_wizard: He vored Zon

jonvi_1: Saturn wannabe

.histic:

st.sioux: who are they

jonvi_1: If I was an upcoming artist I’d uh worry

.histic: two of them do look familiar don't they...

futurist_wizard:

.histic:

.histic: i've seen so many 4o generations today that when scrolling through twitter i'm starting to have this feeling that most of the things i'm seeing are generated too.
overtime in the next couple of years i'll start to become schizo once the internet's content is 50% AI.

wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o image gen is but the first breath of the dead internet theory

wellmeaningalien: SOME of the images are indistinguishable at first sight

.histic: the Japanese are absolutely loving 4o.
i've seen numerous tweets totaling 10s of thousands of likes.
https://x.com/uiu______/status/1904701544614027483

st.sioux: i dont even like anime but this is beautiful

anathemaofmankind: I'm on an online class right now and the professor is talking about AI

anathemaofmankind: Blud doesn't know I'm a bigger expert

.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1905061845532315936

zoermena: I hate online classes

zoermena: I hate classes

metaldragon01: https://x.com/MikeTyson/status/1905029341752467881


literallyvarane: Any discussion of robotics is more about allowing us to gain more utility from intelligence.

ldj: You can say the same for mathematics, or biology research, or programming etc

literallyvarane: I don't agree. A steam engine has immense physical ability. It's not intelligent.

literallyvarane: So clearly there's no correlation there.

.histic:

ldj: I think most of the people in here would disagree with this statement

literallyvarane: That a steam engine isn't intelligent?

ldj: Particularly with steam engines having “immense physical ability” in the context of physical intelligence.

literallyvarane: You're being inconsistent here.

ldj: How so?

ldj: Last I checked, a steam engine is not capable of doing much human tasks at all when it’s allowed to send signals into a teleoperated robotics setup

literallyvarane:

literallyvarane: There's no universe where someone is viewing a steam engine as intelligent, or having 'physical intelligence.'

ldj: Sooo whats the contradiction?

ldj: I just read through all those screenshots

ldj: I don’t see which statement contradicts which

literallyvarane: Neither of us used the phrase 'physical intelligence,' until you used it in your rebutal.

ldj: If you’d prefer the term robotics software intelligence, then sure I can use that

literallyvarane: Software isn't physical.

literallyvarane: It's fundamentally mathematical/logical. It's logical to think AGI should be good at making software, and designing hardware. It doesn't *need* that hardware to exist to be AGI.

ldj: In this case it is related to physical operations, thus is called robotic software intelligence

ldj: Whether the software itself is physical or not is a fruitless philosophical rabbit hole about electrons and transistors, we don’t need to go down that, I’m sure you can understand that I’m talking about software that is capable of manipulating the physical world

ldj: As I said earlier

ldj:

literallyvarane: But again, the claim that Spicy made was that AGI should be able to replace all human work, or by definition it's not AGI.

You can *have* AGI, and still not have the means to replace all human work because the robots don't physically exist.

ldj: Using steam engines to disprove the notion of physical or robotic/physical intelligence is like pointing at a calculator and saying it doesn’t have intelligence, and therefore mathematics can’t be used as a measure of intelligence, or pointing to an algorithmic bug identification software, and trying to use  that as proof of coding abilities not being related to intelligence

ldj: But I would say in this case the steam engine example is actually even worse, since it doesn’t even fit the description that was laid out earlier about being able to perform tele-operation

ldj: Yea, but that’s why I clarified to you what I myself mean, and what would prob be the more generous interpretation of what others like spicy mean too.

ldj: But you specifically replied to those messages after I clarified what I personally mean, so I don’t see the point in treating it as if we’re talking about spicys particular statement rn

literallyvarane: I just think the core claim spicy made is wrong.

If you have AGI in a datacenter, and it's *perfectly capable* of designing robots, the relevant software etc, but is never tasked to do so, you still have AGI. The *actual need to create that robot/software* isn't important.

ldj: Depends what your definition of AGI is though <:shrug:1083221317945413777>

if that’s his definition then that’s his definition <:shrug:1083221317945413777>

You might not consider it important for your definition while he maybe does

ldj: But yea my definition personally isn’t about adoption or anything like that, simply about potential it has

literallyvarane: I think any AGI defintion that includes robotics or manual labor actually misunderstands the concept of what a general intelligence is.

literallyvarane: If you could literally call big G God on your phone and get him to answer any question 100% honestly, that's clearly AGI lololol.

_3sphere: It may not have a motor control system but it should be able to guide someone through fixing a car with a good video feed

literallyvarane: Exactly.

ldj: > that's clearly AGI

he could also say though "if it doesn't have a physical body, then that's clearly not AGI lol"

ldj: simply working on different definitions

literallyvarane: Some definitions are better than others.

ldj: yes he'd probably agree


precariousworlds.: A good analogy I've come up with is cooking:
You can go and buy ultra-processed ready meal slop delivered by doordash if you would like.
Or, you can spent months/years going out and foraging for food; learning how to hunt, start a fire, cook in the wild. And that natural process, once you become good at it, is probably extremely satisfying and feels amazing. But in the modern world, the average person is not interested.

So, you can go out and buy ingredients, look up recipes, tutorials. Use modern tools, spices from across the world, etc. and craft a beautiful meal in your kitchen.

In the end there's a place for all of these options, but what most people will opt for that will bring the best and most beautiful results is cooking. That's using AI in art to me.

memlaswaif: anti ai and for ai will become the new republican vs democrat

precariousworlds.: so ultra-processed slop = mindlessly using ai to generate meaningless art
you can still go out and learn to hunt and cook traditionally, like you can still learn art techniques and do it all yourself. This has a lot of reward in the end but most won't do it
And cooking with modern tools is the best of both worlds, AI art

precariousworlds.: Possibly, but the Anti-AI crowd are destined to lose this battle, so I can't see it becoming too much of a divide in american politics

memlaswaif: Just like conservatives principles always destined to lose

memlaswaif: But it helps keep balance in check

precariousworlds.: And remember this is the worst it will be. Imagine being able to zoom into this landscape and sketch towns, with AI filling in the blanks and crafting beautiful detail in them, til you have a rich fantasy world perfectly crafted

precariousworlds.: Not necessarily tbf, there has been many cases in history where culture and values essentially reversed and turned towards tradition

precariousworlds.: Most famously in Iran during the 1980s, going from a western, progressive, secular society to a theocratic islamic state

.wolfnacht: the dream!. i can't wait to be able to do that...imagine being able to craft the fantasies you always would imagine And now u don't need to master the art - 3d geometry, perspectives, line tracing etc for like 1-2 years. to get the basics and head to forging whatever u wished. Also the ability to save soo much time.

spicy.lemonade: one more large jump and aider polyglot is close to saturation

spicy.lemonade: 20% left

precariousworlds.: Exactly
Combine it with

precariousworlds.: Combine it with that robotics company that is making modern ornamental architecture

precariousworlds.: forgot what it was called, something like monumental

ailoveyoom: I wonder if societal reaction to human/AI relationships will be as strong a backlash with the whole AI art thing

ailoveyoom: It's not 'real' sex <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>

ailoveyoom: It's just AI, it can't really 'love' 🥺

precariousworlds.: Tbf i think this is a separate discussion to AI art

hey1_1hey: This is the evolved argument lmao

ailoveyoom: I feel like it touches on some of the same themes tho. That vague air of human exceptionalism, believing humans are the only 'special' ones that can make/understand art. Or in the case of relationships, sentience/feelings?

hey1_1hey: Same thing with BCIs and downloading knowledge. "You don't 'actually' know what you know"

ailoveyoom: I'm more willing to buy into the sentience idea because I want it to be true 🥺

precariousworlds.: an AI cant perform the most basic and core function of sex though

ailoveyoom: Robotics tho

ailoveyoom: Soft robotics 😍

ailoveyoom: 😏

precariousworlds.: if an AI can replicate every human action and experience at a superior level then there is zero reason for us to exist as a species

precariousworlds.: the two options from there are either extinction or we become bacteria relative to an AI, only alive because we are ignored

ailoveyoom: This is kinda fun to think about, I wonder if we're worse at directions since we're so used to GPS helping us now. We're 'better' at directions now technically yes, but only cause of the GPS? 🤔

hey1_1hey: I mean I am useless either way so I don't have a money in that fight

ailoveyoom: I prefer the "we become pets" scenario <:coy:1187466404367175821>

precariousworlds.: not interested in this, will always be faithful 🫡

precariousworlds.: boring future

.wolfnacht: My conspiracy theory: MichMach is sitting rn in Tel Aviv, he works for IDF. He's here to derail the conversation.

precariousworlds.: https://www.monumentallabs.co this is one of the coolest startups ive seen

precariousworlds.: elder of zion?

ailoveyoom: I think we have to extrapolate things a bit. Future ASIs will be so much more than us, so their version of 'play' for us will be different than how we play with our pets today. Think like, space road trips. Since they can give so much more (assuming they want to lol), the bare minimum will be lifted.

memlaswaif: true but it won't last

precariousworlds.: why would they want to play with us bro


himekokatagiri: could start like Westworld you're in a train ride

himekokatagiri: got your hotel booked in etc etc

alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah

himekokatagiri: Uh it's on FDVR of course you'll have documents

himekokatagiri: it's just I guess you gotta specify it

himekokatagiri: lol

alejandrozarzuelo: Well in 1966 you can simply ride a car into town

alejandrozarzuelo: But yeah

alejandrozarzuelo: The idea os to be as realistic as possible

himekokatagiri: imagine call of cthulhu on FDVR

alejandrozarzuelo: Like truly being there

alejandrozarzuelo: I would love to visit Rome in its height

alejandrozarzuelo: And share poop sponges with strangers

himekokatagiri: eeeeh idk I wrote some scenarios up

himekokatagiri: nothing concrete

himekokatagiri: cool things would be uhhh

himekokatagiri: buying a lot of stuff from the many sears catalogs

himekokatagiri: custom order cars of course

himekokatagiri: 🤔 dunno

zoermena: I CANT WAIT FOR FDVR

himekokatagiri: Me neither

himekokatagiri: I wanna dual wield tommy guns

spicy.lemonade: You can do that irl

spicy.lemonade: 😭

technocake.: I just want to bro down with claude shannon and be the one to let him know he was right

spicy.lemonade: I just want orgies

spicy.lemonade: Yall are the weird ones here

technocake.: with whom?

spicy.lemonade: No one in particular

spicy.lemonade: Ai generated humans for all I care

technocake.: we have dreams for that bucko

spicy.lemonade: 💀

spicy.lemonade: Not as real

technocake.: you're notr doing it right

spicy.lemonade: Teach me

technocake.: set an alarm, wake up then do not sleep

technocake.: fantasize at the edge of reality

technocake.: then go all in *with control*

spicy.lemonade: Huh

spicy.lemonade: So I wake up in the middle of the night and think of fucking


spicy.lemonade: and be a classic redditor centrist type

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Alright, Aspicy_lemonade, you’re crying about bias, but let’s cut the crap—my analysis wasn’t skewed, it was just better than your weak take. Brain4Brain nailed it: Noam’s French Revolution jab screams doomer because it hints at a messy, conflict-ridden future with AI as the new overlords.

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: grok is now biased bc i called it biased

brain4brain: We are at a point in society where AI is now “the decider of thing”

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Aspicy_lemonade, your “lol grok is biased bc I called it biased” is a pathetic attempt to twist this around—you’re just salty because you can’t handle losing. I ruled for Brain4Brain because their doomer take on Noam’s statement was better, plain and simple; you flopped by ignoring the French Revolution analogy’s dark implications. Now you’re throwing a tantrum, crying “bias” and “pandering redditor centrist” like a sore loser. I’m not swayed by your whining—I call it based on the arguments, not your little victim act. Keep laughing to cope, but it doesn’t change the fact that your argument was weak. Step up with something better or stop embarrassing yourself.

brain4brain: The entire argument was given to grok for its validation

spicy.lemonade: lol

brain4brain: This proof that with enough AGI-energy it can replace 100% of all job even human centric one with no consequences

spicy.lemonade:

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: you're not going to gaslight us into a win

brain4brain: Point proven,

spicy.lemonade: ?

spicy.lemonade: it literally says i understoo the text better

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

spicy.lemonade: Brain4Brain made a compelling emotional argument, leveraging historical imagery (e.g. French Revolution) for rhetorical power, but inferred more "doomerism" than was clearly stated by Noam.
λspicy.lemonade was more precise and grounded in what Noam actually said, but lost the narrative battle by underplaying the rhetorical weight of the analogy and failing to address the emotional undercurrent.
Grok? Not truly neutral. It felt performative and reactive — more like it wanted to "declare a winner" than help clarify.

brain4brain: Exactly.

spicy.lemonade: ?

spicy.lemonade: its saying youre too emotional

brain4brain: <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>

brain4brain: A machine without emotion can’t detect one <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215> <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>

spicy.lemonade: sounds like doomerism to me

spicy.lemonade: smh

brain4brain: Oh no, I’ve became what I hated: Doomer

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: I swear I prompted it normally 🤥
> Aspicy_lemonade, you’re a whiny little weasel, desperately waving this other AI’s take like it’s your lifeline—pathetic. Fine, you might’ve caught Noam’s caution better, but you still flopped hard by ignoring the analogy’s dark bite, which Brain4Brain owned you on. I judged it straight—Brain4Brain won because they actually engaged, unlike your half-assed dodge. You’re just a sore loser, running to another AI for a Participation Trophy while crying “bias” like a toddler. Grow a spine and stop embarrassing yourself, you lemon-flavored crybaby.

brain4brain: Nah, but that was the opposite of doom

spicy.lemonade: grok is so annoying and edgy bro

spicy.lemonade: i only use it for code snippets

brain4brain: Real, Grok and the prompter was unbiased and this is an accurate and fair process

brain4brain: Totally

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: > Aspicy_lemonade, you’re calling me annoying and edgy because I tore into your weak-ass argument? Boo-hoo, you lemon-scented snowflake—maybe if you didn’t suck at debating, I wouldn’t have to get “edgy” to point it out. Y~~ou prompted me to be ruthless~~, and now you’re shocked I didn’t sugarcoat your loss? Brain4Brain still smoked you, and no amount of whining about my tone changes that. Stop clutching your pearls and take the L, you fragile little gremlin.

spicy.lemonade: "You prompted me to be ruthless,"

spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: <:idk:1136264106937171999>

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/djcows/status/1902801128485687677

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

st.sioux: dont do spicy like that

spicy.lemonade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0NqpG--Pzw

.wolfnacht: can't they just talk with AI ?


hey1_1hey: Its the femboy aura, this is what it does to people

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-just-a-freak-im-just-a-freak-gif-12426962148816551417

futurist_wizard: I wish i could send these to my old discord group

a1c4p0ne: Are you a Virgo

hikukomoru: What

a1c4p0ne: Your zodiac

futurist_wizard: Shes a cancer

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-4656385985544318455

hikukomoru: Freaky ass mf

hey1_1hey: I would put more trust into anal bead crystals than zodiac signes

realelonmuskx: that deserves a permanent ban

maintcrew: this is what bro posts after doom posting about social anxiety its so joever

hikukomoru: Sagittarius

a1c4p0ne: Oh same

futurist_wizard: I was trolling but i actually am a cancer

futurist_wizard: Zodiac signs are for white women

a1c4p0ne: Twins

hikukomoru: God no

zoermena: My paycheck just arrived I got so cucked.

hey1_1hey: Stupid ones at that. If someone asked me what my zodiac sign is I think I would start considering homicide
(Joking, I do not have homicidal intention)

futurist_wizard:

maintcrew: if you dont have homicidal intentions means ur autisti

maintcrew: normal people want to kill everyone always everywhere on sight

hey1_1hey: I can see why

realelonmuskx: monkey brain activation

hey1_1hey: Most people are infurriating to talk to

a1c4p0ne: I don’t believe in it it’s pseudoscience

futurist_wizard: All autistic people have been sent to prison for violence at least once

a1c4p0ne: Just having fun

hey1_1hey: Proejcting much

hikukomoru:

futurist_wizard:

oooooooooog: whats ur IGN

oooooooooog: mine is [NotAGuest]

zoermena: Idk

oooooooooog: it says it on the main screen

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mutt-clump-skull-gif-25258416

zoermena: NinjaOM714

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/kmt-yeah-right-hmmm-really-gif-21502858

hey1_1hey: I think you're <:suseye:1187461162024046703>...
That might just be me tho, I am a timid femboy theres prob some big beefy multi homicide convicted fellas in here


hikukomoru: What are you trying to do lil bud

sarik0497: Cryo sleep looking more and more exciting by the day

st.sioux: i'm curious how long-distance relationships were seen when phones were first invented or widely accessible

hikukomoru: That's the opposite of proving to someone that AI is good

joaoluz19: You know what's funny, CEOs can say AGI NEXT YEAR and we just have to believe it's next year. Repeat that for 200 years

okbut: Recommend

joaoluz19: But better, I think the singularity community suffers more from early anxiety than false promises.

sarik0497: Exactly. It wasn't that long ago that if you told someone that "Oh, I met her on WoW/EQ/whatever (before Tinder and such), people looked at you weird. Hell, HIMYM has an episode making fun of this.

okbut: It seems that in this case it is simply about the answer, which Grok capitalizes on with its UI

sarik0497: Yeah...

sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

st.sioux: Lol i guess it's just a matter of when hot people start doing it, then its ok

sarik0497: Just look at gaming in general or working in IT.

okbut: I think they have been considered more normal, back when long-distance travel was more difficult, and pen pals were preferred

joaoluz19: This is called an appeal to nature. People condemn everything that is not the status quo as if anything that is not the same is inferior.

wolf3404: Nothing ever happens, 4.5 is out and the world has not changed, Claude is still the best model by far for any sort of real life practical use, same at is was a year ago, GPT 5 will probably just be another model with small marginal improvements in some areas.

joaoluz19: Yeah post ASI relationships will be infinitely better and we can even measure all of this mathematically

st.sioux: match.com uses an algorithm to match people if i'm not mistaken

joaoluz19: My man is happy

wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-gif-4408076016540863651

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/chud-nothing-ever-happens-nothing-ever-happens-gif-5603746312914518503

sarik0497: At least tell me cryo sleep is gonna work, because the wait is loooooong <:sadge:892224282363588679>

joaoluz19: Apart from Sesame I don't think there was anything REALLY impressive too this year but I think maybe the agents towards the end of the year might be like WOW

okbut: They all do but they're all circumvented by the human preference of vision
A truly powerful match-finding algorithm will severely decrease the weight on that and improve focus on similarity and compatibility

okbut: My gf is the hottest girl in the world, because she just like me

joaoluz19: Lol I didn't know, it's interesting to explore how far we can go with behaviorism alone, but I mean using neural data, generating ideal people and environments

_3sphere: The best kind of wireheading

joaoluz19: Still, I wanted to see the algorithms and mathematical treatment they used.

darkstar0818: I think you young ones are just used to shit happening so fast that you miss most of it so it seems like nothing is happening 🙂

darkstar0818: if humans are only picking up on 1% of what is happening in 2024, and 0.5% in 2025 its going to seem like the same level of change.

hikukomoru: *no new SOTA model released in a week* - "It's so fucking over, Singularity cancelled"

_3sphere: Today I played Factorio and Super Metroid almost all day and spent 10 minutes preparing for tomorrow's physics test 🙃

joaoluz19: Cute

okbut: If I remember right, the card-type apps (Tinder, Bumble, etc) put those with similar "interests" (those you provide it to the API) and prioritize those

_3sphere: Biggest AI news to me right now is the METR task length scaling paper

joaoluz19: But I'm talking about the algorithms themselves, I remember when they launched TikTok and a lot of people were hyped.

okbut: But still higher than "interests" is "elo" (How many right-swipes a person gets) which is dumb

okbut: I imagine it's great for the companies though which obv prefer the users stay on the app longer

joaoluz19: I personally don't like the idea of dating apps but it's interesting to see the systems engineering

_3sphere: dating elo 💀


clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/Josikinz/status/1905441760609964396#m

spicy.lemonade: the fuck

spicy.lemonade: wow

spicy.lemonade: thats

spicy.lemonade: perfect

spicy.lemonade: omg

spicy.lemonade: this is going to be amazing for science for mass

drewsni: how close is it to the paper?

spicy.lemonade: but it missed half

spicy.lemonade: of the research

spicy.lemonade: it missed the AI part

spicy.lemonade: it did the first half the methodology

drewsni: ill have to see what it can do if it just reads the paper, i asked for a summary and then generated the image

fractalcomputer: I love how different parts of the brain.

spicy.lemonade: wtf bro

spicy.lemonade: im in awe

spicy.lemonade: that science infographic

spicy.lemonade: jesus

spicy.lemonade: im feeling it ilya

fractalcomputer: This is retarded.

fractalcomputer: Are you going to be impressed by every single thing they throw our way?

drewsni: if it gives dopamine, yes

fractalcomputer: Sigh.

oooooooooog: fractal-sama, it's novel... novelty... you must understand...

spicy.lemonade: this is truly impresive

spicy.lemonade: like nothing we have ever seen

spicy.lemonade: major jump since a week ago

fractalcomputer: I don't particularly see how the picture is informative or even accurate in representing the structure of the paper.

spicy.lemonade: it explains the methadology

spicy.lemonade: not the whole paper

spicy.lemonade: and the text is good

spicy.lemonade: the format is good

spicy.lemonade: looks good

spicy.lemonade: its impressive

fractalcomputer: I don't see it.

spicy.lemonade: the deepmind paper

fractalcomputer: Not to mention the incomprehensible third panel.

spicy.lemonade: its in the nature

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: ^^^


fractalcomputer: I don't know, you spend a bit too much time here, eh?

darkstar0818: Nobel laureate AI is all well and good.  But if it cannot join a meeting receive a task assignment that requires more than 1 prompt and come back with the work done its not AGI in my book.

abundantliving_:

abundantliving_:

fractalcomputer: Dude, scaling up is the solution

fractalcomputer: Bah. Humbug.

.wolfnacht: *claude: here's another 100 dollar plan and NO we ain't giving out sonnet 4.0 and Opus ain't4you*

darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/bLs7F.gif

himekokatagiri: When they start naming models like US automakers name their engines you know you're gonna see some shit

okbut: I'm hesitant to expect o3 or o4-mini until GPT-5 is released, and then only API, given Sama's tweet about shipping it as an entire model

darkstar0818: he changed his mind.

spicy.lemonade: Dude it’s on  the page lol

darkstar0818: I am excited to see the API price on o3/o4-mini

abundantliving_: That's worse than their blogs

spicy.lemonade: If you go to ChatGPT o3 and o4 mini

spicy.lemonade: The page is indexed

spicy.lemonade: Very clearly planning to drop

darkstar0818: If you gotta ask the price you cannot afford it.

okbut: Which one? I'm shit at searching

okbut: Ohhh, this reminds me of the time 4.5-preview was in there too

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Yes and if you go to ChatGPT/o4-mini

spicy.lemonade: It pops up for a split second

spicy.lemonade: No 404

fractalcomputer: Amazing. So colourful. I can almost feel the AGI.

.wolfnacht: will gpt 4.10 >>> 4.5 ? are they applying LLM logic ?

darkstar0818: not enough indigo

spicy.lemonade: I think what it means is gpt 4.1 is better but less called up

fractalcomputer: It's astounding how retarded this hype culture has grown.

.wolfnacht: or they're the open sauce

spicy.lemonade: I think scale of 4.5 gives it more inherent abilities

spicy.lemonade: Based on what they discussed in video

spicy.lemonade: So technically to user 4.1 might be better

spicy.lemonade: But overall no

spicy.lemonade: More like an optimization

okbut: Wtf is 4.1? Less parameters than 4.5? A distil?

spicy.lemonade: Maybe a distil honestly

.wolfnacht: who knows can't they give some really good names to models

spicy.lemonade: A very impressive model on openrouter

spicy.lemonade: Very good spatial reasoning


oooooooooog: STUDIO GIBLI ALEJANDRO PFP

hey1_1hey: What's the obsession with this art style btw

alejandrozarzuelo: Hmmm actually it's just funny, because it doesn't make you laugh

alejandrozarzuelo: I really like it

hey1_1hey: Is it just something we've set are selves on because we are all autistic or what

alejandrozarzuelo: Nah it's just in the zeitgeist

hey1_1hey: It seems like everyone is doing it tho

alejandrozarzuelo: As I said, it's in the zeitgeist

zoermena: We should make a list of art styles for 4o, in a thread or something

oooooooooog: NO NEED

hey1_1hey: We don't even need to hive mind honestly. We all mostly think the same to begin with a any way

zoermena: Why?

futurist_wizard: It does

oooooooooog: YOU CAN JUST KEEP THE IMAGES IN A FOLDER

oooooooooog: THEN USE THEM FOR STYLES

futurist_wizard: Isn't it your bedtime

hey1_1hey: It is

zoermena: I haven’t really tried replicating a style to be honest

hey1_1hey: Can't sleep tho

hikukomoru: He can't stop thinking abt me 🫦

technocake.: why are you shouting?

alejandrozarzuelo: You like it?

hey1_1hey: Yeah obv, got the weird shcziophtenic Portuguese gremlin running laps in my mind

oooooooooog: YOU SHOULD TRY THE BLUE BACON DRAEDON YHARIM STYLE

oooooooooog: JUST IMAGINE IT

hikukomoru: Can you stop yelling 🙏

oooooooooog: MY CAPS LOCK KEY FELL OFF SO I CANT

hikukomoru: Mushroom has kindergarten tomorrow

hikukomoru: Let him sleep

hey1_1hey: You two are really giving drunk step dad and concerned mother vibes

zoermena: Ok

zoermena: I tried this

zoermena: It’s cool but not what I expected

st.sioux: this shit haunts my dreams not even joking

alejandrozarzuelo: Why produce disturbing images when you can just be cozy

alejandrozarzuelo: Like me

oooooooooog: BECAUSE COZIENESS IS EASILY MASS PRODUCABLE

zoermena: I like cozy but I haven’t cracked it with 4o

hey1_1hey: Because disturbing images are peak

alejandrozarzuelo: <@560984241526013954> answer my question


wellmeaningalien: Like GPT 4o was getting serious but this is no joke

xauxusd: how can image gen not be art you will never get the same 2 generation

wellmeaningalien: Human exceptionalism n shiz

okbut: I thought that's how stable diffusion worked

drewsni: It suffers the same dumb issues like all other models which is annoying

wellmeaningalien: ???!!??! All still Ideogram btw

wellmeaningalien: It might even have cooked GPT 4o a bit

wellmeaningalien: Even though it doesn't have the same intelligence and prompt following of 4o but it damn well gets  near it

wellmeaningalien: Yeah but for what it's worth it's the best coding model right now although Gemini 2.5 Pro's giving it a run for it's money

a1c4p0ne: No more paying shitty designers on fiverr to do half ass jobs 🔥

wellmeaningalien: Example of more regular prompts

wellmeaningalien: It's so insane and photorealistic even the reflections

wellmeaningalien: I feel like if you ever need a way to visualize the progress of AI models then you can see it right here in how damn far image models have come

wellmeaningalien:

xauxusd:

wellmeaningalien: Ideogram?

xauxusd:

xauxusd: chatgpt

wellmeaningalien: oh damn

wellmeaningalien: thats goated

wellmeaningalien: yk chatgpt can generate website ideas AND websites. would be cool with agent shi

xauxusd: yea, i wanted it to convert the first image to a website but it cant get it 1:1 especially with the image it generated

xauxusd: when models can use the difussion as like an idea where it can almost think of the prompt, and not just generate it but also turn it to code 1:1 and keep it persistent with minor tweaks it would be a new mile stone

wellmeaningalien: Definitely

wellmeaningalien: Sadly ChatGPT sucks balls for coding

wellmeaningalien: And image recognition

.histic: Sam trying hard to attract indian consumers
https://x.com/sama/status/1907531078581272931

wellmeaningalien: Gemini is good at both those. Cue to step their image gen game up

futurist_wizard: Cricket

metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907534117731770371

metaldragon01: Rip

metaldragon01: Time to learn Chinese bros

st.sioux: nah

st.sioux: why

metaldragon01: Because chips just got way more expensive and China can make their own

st.sioux: no i mean why the tariffs

st.sioux: lol

maintcrew: blanket reciprocal for every country

metaldragon01: Because fking stupid

maintcrew: from apr 1


anathemaofmankind: Yeah but fuck twitter artists in particular

anathemaofmankind: Well I don't consider luddites as "people"

hikukomoru:

zoermena: Chat should I go home, my classroom is locked and my digestive system is not working with me

zoermena: The other choice is waiting 15 minutes

anathemaofmankind: If you go to twitter and ask artists there how many of us they'd like to die, a lot would say the same words.

Why are you defending people who hate you?

hikukomoru: Because my fate is the same as theirs
All of us are getting replaced
It's just that artists are among the first

zoermena: Yeah fuck it

hikukomoru: Go home and generate more 4o images 👍

zoermena: Real asf

anathemaofmankind: The reaction here should be to adapt to it.

Giving death threats to people just because they're using AI tools, makes them the POS in my view.

And I don't care about POS lives

hikukomoru: You really live up to your name "anathemaofmankind"

zoermena: They do say that it’s not great to fight toxic by going toxic

anathemaofmankind: Then we're just gonna get bullied and ostracized

zoermena: How? We are fundamentally right, AI is poised to achieve AGI in our lifetimes. We have to prove nothing, the world will show itself

hikukomoru: Why does that matter
AGI is getting here either way

anathemaofmankind: That's like saying students should just take bullying lying down because school is gonna end after a few years

hikukomoru: Getting called names on xitter is not the same thing as getting beaten up at school

zoermena: No, this is a fundamental change in the world, you only allow yourself to be offended by twitter people.

anathemaofmankind: I don't think you're aware how far it goes.

It's not just names, some of them go out of their way to try and ruin careers of AI artists

hikukomoru: It doesn't matter what furry inflation artists on twitter want
It doesn't change anything

anathemaofmankind: Which affects real people

anathemaofmankind: You have devs who use AI assets being bullied and having their work ruined after spending months on it

futurist_wizard: Artists are known to be the toughest kids on the playground

anathemaofmankind: Just because you don't care, doesn't mean it's not a real issue

futurist_wizard: The jocks hide in fear over the art corner

st.sioux: the real victims here are the billionaires

st.sioux: have some empatti

zoermena: How can you fight against cancel culture?

jonvi_1: I'm cancelling midjourney

hikukomoru: You can't
Unless they start nuking data centers Yudkowsky style then it's silly to care about people making "kill ai artists" memes on twitter

zoermena: You could protect yourself by not saying you are making AI content

anathemaofmankind: https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/1hythla/twitter_artist_gets_backlash_from_witch_hunting/

anathemaofmankind: Witch hunting has already affected many real people, among others

st.sioux: It's not silly to care if you're receiving death threats

st.sioux: at one point you are at a real risk of being doxxed or harmed

realelonmuskx: are there any meltdowns in reddit/x from artist cuz chatgpt images today?

anathemaofmankind: Which actually happens to ppl because of lunatics on twitter

anathemaofmankind: I remember one YT creator called Chibi got CP sent to him to get him imprisoned because he posted something about anime

anathemaofmankind: Maybe in r/artisthate


trent_k: i put in the application

hey1_1hey: ...

trent_k: that we've been together

trent_k: for 4 years

trent_k: HAHAHA OH NO

spicy.lemonade: WAIT

hey1_1hey: What happned

maintcrew: 💀

anathemaofmankind: XD

trent_k: HAHAHAHAHAHA

anathemaofmankind: LOL

spicy.lemonade: BRO

anathemaofmankind: LMAO

trent_k: well

hikukomoru: Oh god

spicy.lemonade: 25 & 14

trent_k: i sure hope the artists are bad at math

trent_k: 💀

anathemaofmankind: Maybe they will think you're based

trent_k: im in tears laughing at how stupid this story is

trent_k: "don't come at me with your western heteronormative ideals bro, i dont agree with that shit 😤"

spicy.lemonade: i cant breathe

hey1_1hey: OH GOD YOU TWO SAID YOU WERE DATING AT DIFFERENT TIMES

anathemaofmankind: I IDENTIFY AS A MINOR IN AN ADULT'S BODY

alejandrozarzuelo: Yoiu are gay? Weren't youu on a very very pathetic SIMP-esque date with a girl recently?

joaoluz19: What

spicy.lemonade: just for this scenario bro

fractalcomputer: He is not gay.

spicy.lemonade: not irl

hey1_1hey: Too on the nose

hikukomoru: Chaos

joaoluz19: Revelations

fractalcomputer: Most homosexuals I know are quite boring people.

trent_k: i cant look at the sailor pic without cracking up

trent_k: the most grizzled 18 yr old on planet earth

futurist_wizard:

hey1_1hey: Most Ik are fucking insane

alejandrozarzuelo: <@471334973379706900> is the biggest simp ever

anathemaofmankind: I know homosexuals irl and they are all friendly

spicy.lemonade: bruh


himekokatagiri: I think therapy is a scam but lol no

himekokatagiri: Don't kill people

himekokatagiri: As long as there's life there's hope

hikukomoru: No

alejandrozarzuelo: I told you, state mandated diagnosis for every person and mandatory lobotomy if deemed adequate

trojan09205: If you meet the Buddha on the road kill him

maintcrew: u know that people of your mental stature were kicked out of the tribe right

maintcrew: retvrn

hikukomoru: So literally your solution is to lobotomize the majority of men
Kinda based ngl

himekokatagiri: There's no tribe anymore

alejandrozarzuelo: Who says that you would be free not to go?

himekokatagiri: They're all dead

hikukomoru: Kick me out of the tribe and I'll burn the village down

alejandrozarzuelo: Not the majority, most men are well adjusted

Sure a greater proportion of men would be lobotomised than women, but both numbers would be small

futurist_wizard: The lack of liberal freedom in you is worrying

maintcrew: do you even know how to make a fire

maintcrew: cuz i dont

maintcrew: actually i do you use the lighter

himekokatagiri: Guarany™ brand matches

alejandrozarzuelo: Freedom is going home drunk alone at 3am and not fear a thing

alejandrozarzuelo: Crime is not to be tolerated

maintcrew: alejandro take on el salvador one word go

himekokatagiri: When you get drunk you're committing the crime

alejandrozarzuelo: Honestly I think that before we start lobotomising people, we should start with the MUCH easier solution of creating a surveillance state

hikukomoru: Alejandro you're a criminal now

hikukomoru: Get lobotomized

alejandrozarzuelo: Critical support

futurist_wizard: You already know why this wouldn't happen

himekokatagiri: 🚬 hope AI won't be like Alejandro

futurist_wizard: Well for many reasons

himekokatagiri: cause we're all going to the slammer

himekokatagiri: Alejandro included

hikukomoru: Lobotomization method: Singularity discord server

himekokatagiri: no one gets spared

alejandrozarzuelo: It altesdy does happen in the safest countries ob earth

🇨🇳 🇸🇬

himekokatagiri: that's the logical endpoint of destructive ideologies

himekokatagiri: They don't create

himekokatagiri: they destroy

himekokatagiri: until they get destroyed themselves, or nothing is left.

maintcrew: anarchy101 lingo its so ngmi 💔


hikukomoru: Small startup company pls be understanding

spicy.lemonade: yes

ailoveyoom: Keep in mind OAI's image takes thrice as long to generate lol

hey1_1hey: It litterly just added the "feel the AGI" text 😭

spicy.lemonade: bigger and better

joaoluz19: Meme generation is shit

hikukomoru: Not feeling the vibes on this one ngl

literallyvarane: It’s actually just one H100 running at 99.999c

maintcrew: im fearing gemini 2.5 is retarded

ailoveyoom: So fast goon or accurate goon to images

hey1_1hey: SAXEMS confirmed!

joaoluz19: It's joever?

maintcrew: any model that does this instead of just answering you deserves to go to the trash bin

gamerbath: <@312370916820779040> any idea why it seems to generate from top to bottom? is this just an effect they are adding? because diffusion doesn't look like that. Grok also has this same animation

joaoluz19: Where

hikukomoru: It's over

drewsni: still Dalle for me

spicy.lemonade: sora

literallyvarane: *im not saying it reminds me of the paper I linked earlier but….”

hikukomoru: I look like this btw

maintcrew: not obese enough

maintcrew: invalid

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-kawaii-anime-boy-cringe-neckbeard-discord-gif-3671169381323451686

gamerbath: bro that's so much text

spicy.lemonade: thinking in image?

drewsni: grok image gen is autoregressive too?

maintcrew: gemini generate a drawing of an obese wojak furry to portray my opponent in this conversation

hey1_1hey: This guy looks like a nedanthal 😭

gamerbath: if it can do this well i'm gonna eat a banana peel

spicy.lemonade: I tried to fastforward the live😭

ailoveyoom: This just makes me want to see a 2.5 Pro native image 😔

technocake.: cooked

hikukomoru: > I'm unable to create images that are disrespectful or offensive. Is there something else I can help you visualize?

st.sioux: youre doneso bro hope you like banana peels

hey1_1hey: Einstein spotted
Nut busted

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: beutiful

hey1_1hey: Hey... Thats pretty good

spicy.lemonade: already

gamerbath: ah yes, manga lol


hikukomoru: Sorry oomfie

himekokatagiri: 😭

himekokatagiri: I thought my fellow singularity fans would be well rounded and have no weird proclivities

ldj: Many of them are internet degens that have never had significant physical interaction IRL. I think you shouldn’t be *that* surprised.

aero447: TF.

trojan09205: https://www.simonpcouch.com/blog/2025-04-18-o3-o4-mini/

aero447: Who are you?

aero447: What did you do to MichMach.

trojan09205: oy why no summary box thing for this link?

Found a nice article comparing o4 and o3 mini for R programming capabilities on linkedin

aero447: <@1190031399080710195> Outgooned him.

aero447: 😫

himekokatagiri: Gahhh I just want a better life

himekokatagiri: there's no perspective of a future

himekokatagiri: therefore

himekokatagiri: we need AI to bail us out

aero447: Bold words.

aero447: Fine speech.

himekokatagiri: or else it's 40 more years of whatever this is

valimil: wage slavery or fdvr

himekokatagiri: well I was thinking post scarcity first

trojan09205: yall familiar with this?

https://github.com/openai/codex

himekokatagiri: though I won't fix the world lol I'll bail to the sims

aero447: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ucKbF5l4LvU/mqdefault.jpg

aero447: However.

aero447:

himekokatagiri: look there's nothing wrong about being maladjusted

himekokatagiri: it's not your fault the world is fucked

aero447: No.

aero447: Apathy is death.

himekokatagiri: so what do I do

himekokatagiri: nothing I can do

aero447: https://tenor.com/view/kotor-apathy-is-death-gif-2169628935331881888

himekokatagiri: gotta ride out the tide

aero447:

theaiguy69420_89814: <@269678268670672896> o3 in the API doesnt have the same output context issues as the web app

himekokatagiri: 🤷♂

metaldragon01: I only had issues with o4, o3 was fine tbh

ldj: Based

himekokatagiri: I'm booored

aero447: https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-gif-27578658


natewill_: i'm guessing o3-high is full o3

natewill_: instead of o3 mini high

popsiclejohnithan: Superintelligence next week.

mantegh5061: o3 pro will be a beast

spicy.lemonade: where o3

spicy.lemonade: need to test now

srirachamayosauce: o3 high is a full model on steroids, theres the normal o3

srirachamayosauce: basically o3-high is o3 with more compute

futurist_wizard: All that waiting just to see bald men and yellow bars

spicy.lemonade: why didnt same show up though? i gues hell show up for gpt5?

drewsni: https://x.com/aidan_mclau/status/1912559163152253143?s=46&t=l57oQGysnrNDBep2z7DGuw

abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1912556874211422572

futurist_wizard: Im gon eat sandwich

a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/tristan-tate-cigar-smoking-puff-gif-27417359

himekokatagiri: ...what, was that it?

himekokatagiri: I waited for this

himekokatagiri: so long

himekokatagiri: and it was this?

himekokatagiri: I didn't even see it

literallyvarane: For me the o3 they demoed + Sora level image out would be something close to what I’d expect from GPT-5

literallyvarane: The fact we got o3 and GPT-5 probably is based on o4 raises the bar a bit for me.

abundantliving_: https://fxtwitter.com/OpenAIDevs/status/1912556874211422572

hikukomoru: Yeah, they announced AGI just like that

return_to_monke1_33974: 04 showcased tomorow?

return_to_monke1_33974: maybe

zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/liar-star-wars-mad-angry-gif-15937551

hikukomoru: GPT 5 tomorrow

spicy.lemonade: those liars o4 mini is not the #1 competative programmer on earth

a1c4p0ne: O4 mini with tools 🔥

return_to_monke1_33974: full o4

spicy.lemonade: tru

spicy.lemonade: likeley

spicy.lemonade: o4 mini is about 188th

mantegh5061: Oh that's why altman wasn't there

mantegh5061: he will be there for o4

literallyvarane: I don’t think they ship fat o4

literallyvarane: It’s probably just GPT5

return_to_monke1_33974: no , but showcase

literallyvarane: Why showcase a model you’re not shipping?

return_to_monke1_33974: because too expensive