alejandrozarzuelo: even though they are siblings it wouldnt cause too much trouble

alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, it is typical that colony males die after reproduction, but in their case it doesnt seem to happen

this greatly improves the survivability of the species as you need smaller numbers to maintain genetic diversity

alejandrozarzuelo: it also means that all males, not just a small minority contribute to the semen reserves of smurfette

_3sphere: Ohh

alejandrozarzuelo: this is very beneficial for the genetic recombination

_3sphere: Makes sense 💀

alejandrozarzuelo: idk why you are reacting with 💀 , thats how bees work too

alejandrozarzuelo: if anything this is better as ALL males contribute, while typically only a few do

alejandrozarzuelo: so it is tamer than real life

_3sphere: Generational smurf gangbang

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? again, this is how nature already works in thousands of species

alejandrozarzuelo: it doesnt NEED to be a gangbang tho, it can happen one-to-one

alejandrozarzuelo: it can be tho

alejandrozarzuelo: the only question I have is if grandpa smurf serves also as a semen depository or just a worker

i mean its only one individual so it doesnt make too much of a change

_3sphere: I guess it's just a social position he has as the leader and magician

czdct: I don't think grandpa smurf's dick is working anymore

czdct: he's already past his prime

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah probably he just has a seniority position

_3sphere: Magic being so hard to learn that he was spared from the gangbang

metaldragon01: Can yall goon in off topic plz?

alejandrozarzuelo: goon?

czdct: this is a serious biological discussion

gamerbath: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1906438171371655275

alejandrozarzuelo: if colony reproductive behavior is your kink... ok go for it but personally i am more of a social-individualist species enjoyer

alejandrozarzuelo: it is

alejandrozarzuelo: idk why people are icky with biology

alejandrozarzuelo: thats how life works

czdct: maybe he would like us to generate images like this instead

zoermena: In the movie the female Smurf was artificially made I think

zonchao: https://x.com/squirtle_says/status/1906550471415996541?

zoermena: When I was a kid I remember looking up an ad for this soda called squirt

zoermena: Worst mistake of my life

precariousworlds.: the last 50 messages in this channel are genuinely painful to read
Jesus wept

sweetievee__33649: i think i might have to start believing in miracles

sarik0497: I just came on, and I’m already thinking “What the hell.”

precariousworlds.: i scrolled up for 30 seconds and was resisting the urge to kill myself 😭

hikukomoru: Why are people talking about Smurf sex

hey1_1hey: I blame Alejandro for talking about the reproduction heirarchy of smurfs

hikukomoru: And worse of all talking about it without me

hey1_1hey: He was trying to gas light me into thinking thats its a normal thing to think about


alejandrozarzuelo: creation is not important to art, intentionality is

fuhulootogan: right so context matters

alejandrozarzuelo: you can create a lot of stuff that doesnt have the intention to create aesthetic pleasure, so it is not art

fuhulootogan: define "aesthetic pleasure"

fuhulootogan: i want to be on the same page as you

fuhulootogan: depends on your intentions

alejandrozarzuelo: AI art is art by the extremely simple definition of intentionality and pleasure

(when i say pleasure i mean the broad sense of the word, a piece of art that makes you cry or angry or whatever counts as such)

fuhulootogan: what

alejandrozarzuelo: an emotional response

fuhulootogan: wait

fuhulootogan: uhh

fuhulootogan: lets sort this out

alejandrozarzuelo: a sad song makes you sad

alejandrozarzuelo: its still art

alejandrozarzuelo: it was intentional

alejandrozarzuelo: and it has created an emotional response on you

fuhulootogan: do you want to appeal to this?

fuhulootogan: definition?

alejandrozarzuelo: this definition is shit, because it defines art as something human

gamerbath: transformers are a beutiful form of art, I hope we can agree on this

fuhulootogan: uhh

fuhulootogan: no

alejandrozarzuelo: like, sure if i say that all appples must be red, then I can claim a green apple is not an apple

gamerbath: it's literally the dictionary definition. It's objectively correct

fuhulootogan: how do you even rank the validity of a definition

fuhulootogan: lmfao

fuhulootogan: i'm gonna trust a dictionary more than a discord user

fuhulootogan: just saying

ailoveyoom: I actually think text to image models are super cool abominations. It trained off millions of images and keyword pairs, and then all of a sudden it can make anything! There's something beautiful about that. I can see how it'd be scary for some, but I like that perspective too.

alejandrozarzuelo: ok, definitions are arbitrary

if you want to define art as something human, then you can do it and by THAT definition, even if an AI has consciousness it will never create art

by this definition elephants, dogs, and other animals cannot create art as it is human creatibity

it is a correct definition, but it is a needlessly narrow one

again, i can claim that a woman is a human with a vagina, and that would also be a consistent definition, but it would also be needlessly restrictive

fuhulootogan: its getting heated in here

fuhulootogan: calm down a bit

fuhulootogan: let me respond

alejandrozarzuelo: for the longest time "woman" was defined as a human with female reproductive organs

definitions only need one requirement: consistency, that definition of art and this definition of woman are consistent, they are correct

are they useful? thats up to society to decide

definitions change all the time, because they are arbitrary, and as long as they are consistent, they are valid

fuhulootogan: first of all

fuhulootogan: define arbitrary

frittata: Buncha Philistines discussing art smh

alejandrozarzuelo: decided by collective agreement without a prior basis

frittata: Art is transformation

frittata: Novelty


i_like_over_9000_turtles: Yes, you are correct. My apologies.

spicy.lemonade: Better not be as censored

spicy.lemonade: As google

ailoveyoom: They fixed that btw

literallyvarane: I mean grok is still supposedly training so we’ll see… I guess?

ailoveyoom: I have a friend with proof

ailoveyoom: 😏

hikukomoru: Believe in Elon 🙏

literallyvarane: But this isn’t helping them lol.

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-tesla-siliconvalley-dance-twitter-gif-736329299122305506

spicy.lemonade: <@1068159407671754824> looks like they did drop native image

drewsni: lol

literallyvarane: Lolololololol

trent_k: In 15 minutes we'll hear if they're *actually* dropping it or if they're still on their bullshit. I don't get my hopes up for OAI livestreams anymore

literallyvarane: Watch them do a “one more thing” and ship o3 today or something.

i_like_over_9000_turtles: I used to love Elon, I did two songs about him.  I dunno it feels like he has turned to the dark side, gotten stupid and evil.  I wonder if it's the ketamine?

literallyvarane: “One more thing” GPT 4.75 incoming.”

spicy.lemonade: Idk why they wouldn't drop it lol

st.sioux: "we are so chill and cool actually"

ailoveyoom: Imagine if, "We'll be rolling it out to Plus and Pro users over the coming weeks" 😭

literallyvarane: Feel like Google and Deepseek are the only companies that make OpenAI actually move.

hikukomoru: No he's just autistic
Autistic people are naturally evil

spicy.lemonade: Tru

trent_k: At this point the standard process seems to be a big announcement, then a long wait. It could go either way today, being that they quietly announced it 316 days ago

zonchao: i don't think they have a market overlap, gemini has inactive app users and no integrations with google apps... or they are perpetual beta testing

will have to see when both drop APIs tho

3ds0662: Yes it used to be able to handle increasing codebase size, agentic search and instruction following much more intelligently.

literallyvarane: “Didn’t know you were chill like that”

i_like_over_9000_turtles: what lol  some autistic have buddhic hyper morality.

literallyvarane: Counter point. Google already has a meaningful API customer base.

spicy.lemonade: Wonder why Sora is included

zonchao: yes

spicy.lemonade: Sora 2 showcase?

st.sioux: thye're probably starting to learn how to actually code and realizing its not as good as they thought it was before

st.sioux: idk

zonchao: but it's not "taking" groks base

ailoveyoom: Sora 1.5 lol

literallyvarane: SORA 2.5 Pro, world model.

trent_k: No, it's just people leaving the initial "holy shit wow" period as they run into the limitations the models always had. A lot of people seemingly aren't cognizant of the fact they're running into model limitations tho, and think it's the model getting worse from a previous good point

literallyvarane: Experimental

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-sabbath-war-pigs-generals-gathered-in-their-masses-cat-meme-gif-16029358381598420694


hey1_1hey: I didn't know I could find something so interesting

hikukomoru: I would take every single one of that lady's classes

hey1_1hey: You'd see me there, I'd be her top student

hikukomoru: After class tutoring 😳

ailoveyoom: *Bottom student

hey1_1hey: "Yes miss, I have a question. What does the conventianal explosive mean? Hmm... I am not sure I understand can I talk to you after class about it"

hey1_1hey: Stole my joke

hey1_1hey: I need to have 2 sets of keyboards with 2 discords open to type all the jokes that come into my head

hikukomoru: I don't have native image gen

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-only-be-one-funny-car-mean-cat-cat-attack-gif-12213614

.histic: OpenAI said EU people should get it by 2028

hey1_1hey: UK 💪
Crumbiling but has native image gen

.histic:

wellmeaningalien: i have native image gen bro

drewsni:

drewsni: I almost got it this time…

hey1_1hey: I'll be able to generate really mean things about Komoru in 7 hours and they can't do the same back to me because they are silly and don't have it yet 🤌

hey1_1hey: ChatGPT must be on its toes constantly

hey1_1hey: Or maybe its just automatic and it doesn't have time to think

hey1_1hey: Who knows

.histic: use sora.com
better rate limits, less refuals. and you get 2 outputs instead of just one.

drewsni: Wait they nerfed it from 4? 🙀

.histic: wdym? 🤔

drewsni: You used to be able to gen 4 outputs

.histic: yeah, it's there, but you can't enable it

.histic: only 2

drewsni: Maybe they just had it at 4 because half the gen’s failed the first day

hey1_1hey: God forbid you clear your cookies 💀

hey1_1hey: They aren't accpeiting new sign ups right now and you cant log in either

drewsni: Speaking of that. I can’t play any embed YouTube videos because of cookies issues right now

hey1_1hey: Is it a browser issue or youtube?

drewsni: It’s all browsers but also discord

drewsni: Not sure what’s going on, even if I fetch fresh cookies I can’t download YouTube videos either

drewsni: Wonder if they put me on a temp restriction

hey1_1hey: Well theres my recomendation out the window

drewsni: It’s probably because I archived 5k videos like a week ago but the issue just started today

.histic: recent article
https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/the-real-story-behind-sam-altman-firing-from-openai-efd51a5d

otub:

hikukomoru: Everyone has native image gen but me

hikukomoru: Fuck this


futurist_wizard:

okbut: People born that way aren't at a disadvantage, unless people say so

alejandrozarzuelo: Noo

fractalcomputer: I do not believe I am asexual.

okbut: So you get pleasure from masturbation?

hikukomoru: Fractal is AroAce

fractalcomputer: I wouldn't say so.

okbut: <a:PU_pepeHmmMath:850331115637833728>

zoermena: Check my profile

alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, I disagree with <@1004153620025065482>

I think most people here aren't virgins

futurist_wizard:

hikukomoru: Why did you put it there 😭

zoermena: As a trophy

_3sphere: Why not a poll

alejandrozarzuelo: Why do you laugh?

alejandrozarzuelo: We already did one

zonchao: lmfao

fractalcomputer: I might simply have not really learned how emotions work when I was younger.

futurist_wizard: It's just self evident

futurist_wizard: Like come on

hikukomoru: We need to do another one

alejandrozarzuelo: I think mich isn't a virgin, neither is komoru, they are just too lewd to be

zoermena: I suspect that it’s more likely than not that your brain is wired so differently that you literally can’t comprehend what we are saying at the same wavelength I think

futurist_wizard:

futurist_wizard: Actually im pretty sure there was a poll

_3sphere: Just as easily explained as lewd from being pent-up horny

futurist_wizard: And 70% voted for the 'not had sex yet'

futurist_wizard: I'm 80% sure on that

zonchao: it is really hard to be a virgin past 20....you actually have to go out of your way to be one

zoermena: Well I’ll be damned

hikukomoru: I think Mich is a virgin tbh

_3sphere: I woke up midway through doing it on the floor in a dream a couple weeks ago 😭

fractalcomputer: Well, I was mostly exposed to contempt, indifference or hatred.

futurist_wizard: Mich is quite young

zoermena: That is unfortunate

futurist_wizard: And terminally online

hikukomoru: He's the same age as me isn't he

hikukomoru: 20

zonchao: thought he was a freshman

_3sphere: Why are the degens all young


perish0801: Too bad for the people in plane cuz I’ll be fine

sarik0497: Yeah, but Japan has a cultural issue that doesn’t really make things easier.

perish0801: He learns from me

perish0801: I’m his mentor

memlaswaif: maybe u can continually repair by using nanobot or something

memlaswaif: idk

3ds0662: I'd love to be able to cutoff limbs and regrow them like reptiles

3ds0662: but what we see in different species aren't transferable to humans

memlaswaif: its probably possible

perish0801: A dude that shoots spider webs from his hands is gonna come for you

ailoveyoom: You should look into Michael Levin's research

sarik0497: To be fair, a lot of things seem unthinkable until they aren’t.

It’s sort of like trying to tell a medieval king of a computer.

memlaswaif: what if we put ure brain in a lobster

sarik0497: The body is technically just a large system. If you can figure out how to fix these systems, the “frame” itself could stay active for potentially forever.

3ds0662: the birth rate issue seems to be affecting most of the west too it seems to be modern world modern culture thing

memlaswaif: theres just no benefits for having more kids anymore

himekokatagiri:

st.sioux: what do u want a free house for each kid or what

st.sioux: open ur legs get a car

memlaswaif: don't tell me what to do

himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1YO2R9IcWc

trent_k: People say this just because they can't quantify the abstract benefit of the practically hardwired reward you feel watching your child grow up

memlaswaif: u can get that from just one child

trent_k: Yes but you get it even more from >1 child

memlaswaif: probably

hikukomoru: Lol loser

memlaswaif: its gotta be dimishing returns

alejandrozarzuelo: Aramaic? How did you become fluent in Aramaic

himekokatagiri: whaaaaa why

hikukomoru: I'm going to start calling you a breeder

himekokatagiri: woahhh that's hot

himekokatagiri: the hottest part is shaking him down for alimony thogh

himekokatagiri: and then trent having to escape to eastern europe

retupmoclatcarf: >be jewish

alejandrozarzuelo: Look I love his shit post personality but he has an ego that is way too big for comfort

himekokatagiri: I agree jiankui woulda been a big deal

himekokatagiri: but we got AI now

trojan09205: I studied for several years in a yeshiva

hikukomoru: What's the point of having kids now

hikukomoru: Just get some pets or something


anathemaofmankind: Yeah it would only take like a few million years to colonize the galaxy with self replicating robots at a fraction of C

oooooooooog: i just assumed it would be on eof those blinking ones that goes swoosh cause of gas or whatever

destrucules: You're thinking of giant stars, where dust eruptions can obscure some of the light and cause temporary dimming. Betelgeuse is probably the most famous example

oooooooooog: i'd give it 300k years........

oooooooooog: cephid variable

oooooooooog: ah

destrucules: That is essentially the Grabby Aliens argument, but... When you remove some of the biases in the priors from which the parameters are sampled, the new parameters that open up significantly alter the outcome of the model

oooooooooog: which ones

destrucules: Several of the parameters are biased towards having exceedingly low values with no real justification, resulting in a universe with large bubbles of claimed territory and a very long period before these bubbles expand to the point that they tile space. If you allow for larger values, then most model outcomes involve the universe rapidly becoming gridlocked with claimed territories, and each territory is very small (much much smaller than a single galaxy). This gridlocking event happens billions of years before present.

anathemaofmankind: What are these parameters

.histic: i just screenshot this chat and gave it to 4o to stylize it in studio Ghibli & it made this..

metaldragon01: What a time to be alive

a1c4p0ne: Make that your background on discord

anathemaofmankind: It's better to make it like a comic

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: this is ai generated

spicy.lemonade: this image itself

spicy.lemonade: prompt:

> a google images search result for the query "meme"

anathemaofmankind: Here's a comic of me and destrucules lol

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/juanluisrto/status/1904963602798293184?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

spicy.lemonade: native audio

spicy.lemonade: then native video

spicy.lemonade: then atlast

spicy.lemonade: openAI netflix

anathemaofmankind: Hollywood is cooked

a1c4p0ne:

oooooooooog: it turned me into destructules

oooooooooog: and destructules into me

spicy.lemonade: loll

spicy.lemonade: gary marcus hasnt posted

spicy.lemonade: any 4o stuff

spicy.lemonade: not 1

a1c4p0ne: Not a single word

destrucules: There are a ton of parameters in the model, but specifically, n is too large, L is too small, and kappa is too large.

destrucules: Basically, a lot of the initial parameters are tuned such that alien civilizations are very rare, and then *given* that rarity, our lack of observed ETI is treated as a selection effect

oooooooooog: isnt kappa the pokemon with the lillypad on his head

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/garymarcus/status/1904822966908600613?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900>

a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

oooooooooog: bottom left :trollface:


alejandrozarzuelo: guys

alejandrozarzuelo: I need to modify a LONG text

alejandrozarzuelo: what model (free) is best for this?

alejandrozarzuelo: Claude 3.7? GPT? R1/V3?

zonchao: gemini

drewsni: thats such crazy demand for chatgpt

drewsni: as if it wasnt already stupidly popular

wellmeaningalien: let me guess native image gen

zonchao: no

zonchao: usage over time

zonchao: it's just more popular

wellmeaningalien: let me guess image gen

zonchao: but the big uptick could be imagen

wellmeaningalien: i love when openai does something that makes everyone hyperfocused on AI again

drewsni: believe it or not, we are STILL early

memlaswaif: <:hmmmm:869656993999249508>

fractalcomputer: True.

.wolfnacht: gemini needs to give us around 200 rate limits

memlaswaif: wow so he's actually trying to become the face of eugenics

.histic: nah, he just wants to use gene editing to cure or enhance people for medical purposes. it's not like he said he wants to stop the fit from reproducing.

memlaswaif: the door once opens doesn't close

.histic: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1904348005060522422

.histic: how cute.

maintcrew: 🔥 🔥 🔥

memlaswaif: this guy just chimped out and injected 2 baby with aids medicine that may or may not work for no reason and also set back human gene research by years

maintcrew: afaik he cured the babies tho

maintcrew: and he was asked by the parents

maintcrew: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1905788518632505708

memlaswaif: r there any updates on the babies <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>

maintcrew: prob if u can read chinese

.histic: yeah, it is kinda funny.
but the internet is the internet.
he got popular & now people love him.

ldj: 👀  take anything yall hear from the twitter user "chatgpt21" with a massive grain of salt

ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>

maintcrew: is this some kind of misdirection tactic

maintcrew: are you gatekeeping

maintcrew: i will take what they say as gospel

maintcrew: fuck you

ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>

ldj: No it's just that I just had a personal interaction with him recently, and I originally thought he was a knowledgable guy, but now after my interaction with him I am very skeptical that he even understands what he's talking about half the time.

.histic: i just got a call from Sam Altman and he said they were releasing o3-mini pro & full o3 next week.
trust me. it's big.


wellmeaningalien: What's there to trust besides it anywho

wellmeaningalien: Reported for abuse

himekokatagiri: Time travel presents a lot of opportunity for trolling

himekokatagiri: Open a YouTube channel

himekokatagiri: at least imo socially the past was better

himekokatagiri: even if well it was still shit

himekokatagiri: golden era of delinquency

fractalcomputer: Absolutely nothing. Why do you think I like to parade Lovecraft around?

himekokatagiri: because he's cool?

himekokatagiri: well kinda

himekokatagiri: he was good at writing I guess

wellmeaningalien: Well there you have it then

fractalcomputer: Because he had smart things to say.

wellmeaningalien: Thats why I dont bother thinking much about it

wellmeaningalien: So he's cool

fractalcomputer: Did I contradict that claim?

himekokatagiri: I think he was dumb about book deals

himekokatagiri: should have gotten out of the pulp zines

fractalcomputer: Which is a shame, I'd say.

himekokatagiri: though the 30s were apocalyptical

himekokatagiri: he was ngmi either way

_3sphere: Time travel is almost certainly impossible

_3sphere: And if not, there's gotta be some kind of artificial barrier in the future

fractalcomputer: You have a disgusting view on art.

himekokatagiri: why I like them

himekokatagiri: it's just

himekokatagiri: it was always private eyes and gangsters

himekokatagiri: Lovecraft wasn't that

himekokatagiri: I wish he did one of those

himekokatagiri: but I don't think he had the grit to write a half decent Chandler copy

fractalcomputer: When you see a star in the sky, do you wish it made you a little pirouette as well?

himekokatagiri: sure but I don't got a wishing well close by

himekokatagiri: so I keep my wishes for myself

himekokatagiri: anyhow

himekokatagiri: just sit down relax

himekokatagiri: get a pina colada

himekokatagiri: wait out the troubles

himekokatagiri: times are gonna get better

zoermena: If I was fractal I would escape to the deep woods and build a cabin to wait out the pre singularity chaos

himekokatagiri: me and fractal


spicy.lemonade: im a minority

trent_k: we can save this

hey1_1hey: But not for me ?

spicy.lemonade: NOOOOOOOOOO

hikukomoru: No

trent_k: you're polish but you identify with the black community

hey1_1hey: Why?

trent_k: because poles were historically discriminated against

spicy.lemonade: TRANSRACIAL

hey1_1hey: I want milfs in my life

hikukomoru: I don't like you

trent_k: HAHAHA

spicy.lemonade: this is insane

hey1_1hey: Love you to man

trent_k: long ass rant about how polish discrimination is real

hikukomoru: It's not just Alejandro
Trent has 🥀 too 💔

spicy.lemonade: 💀

trent_k: im so old bro in a couple months ill have a second kid and in a couple more months ill be 30

hey1_1hey: I think to seal the deal you could make a long rant about how you three were all artists whos jobs got taken by AI and thats it horrible

hey1_1hey: NOOOOOO

anathemaofmankind: This is so unhinged lol

hey1_1hey: Everyone here is so EDing

maintcrew: delete this your current pfp made me think you are a huge bear like man

trent_k: kinda funny how we joined to make fun of artists and now we're collectively writing lore about a poly throuple

hikukomoru: The worst of all is you
You're still 18 it must hurt so much

trent_k: i shaved when i went to poland because i didnt wanna look like a chechen

hey1_1hey: WDYM HURT BRO 😭

spicy.lemonade: im a huge grizzled polish 18 year old who is gay, bisexual, they them, minority but also transracial in a poly relationship dating 29 year old

hey1_1hey: People with ED dont get fucking penis cramps

futurist_wizard: I always shave my beard

hey1_1hey: Too my knwoledge atleast

spicy.lemonade: no way they believe this

hikukomoru: I don't know ok 🥀

trent_k: wait holy shit

trent_k: LMFAO

trent_k: SPICY

futurist_wizard: Im gonna get my body hair lasered

trent_k: NOOOOOO

anathemaofmankind: The main mission is still to piss them off

trent_k: NOOOOOO SPICY


okbut: Who's igniting Teslas?

otub: https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

.histic: apparently not the luddites

.histic: well maybe

mihrcelium: A solid rejoinder. However, I don't believe the two groups overlap all that much.

metaldragon01: New midjourney samples look...roughly the same as v6

metaldragon01: Hard to tell it's an update

anathemaofmankind: MJ is finished

mihrcelium: Ye~p.

okbut: Agree
I think the decels are the very same people upset that AI is doing art instead of laundry

spicy.lemonade: why werent artists complaining when claude could play pokemon. they aparently dont care about the money in art(lie) and gaming is equally as human as art

spicy.lemonade: in fact they loved it

mihrcelium: Since V5, the juice has mostly been user control, not entirely output quality.

spicy.lemonade: i dont think theres a way to make it look better

spicy.lemonade: quality is solved lol

anathemaofmankind: They don't care about stuff that doesn't affect them obviously

mihrcelium: They're insecure unimaginative people who spend too much time on the internet.

okbut: Also worth noting that programmers are memeing about their jobs rather than complaining

drewsni: by the way the ceo has been the last week, id say so

drewsni: good thing for them is mj is bootstrapped so they have options

mihrcelium: And many are proactively finding ways to leverage AI to advance themselves through what's coming to boot.

okbut: It's as if artists haven't learned to do the same

st.sioux: And most programmers are already accustomed to collaboration and building on top of the work of others

st.sioux: artists call it "stealing"

mihrcelium: They can always break the "in case of emergency" glass and allow NSFW.

mihrcelium: MJX.

st.sioux: free money glitch

spicy.lemonade: yeah lol

brain4brain: Midjourney is cooked bro, these looks shit: https://www.midjourney.com/rank-v7

spicy.lemonade: if you arent using ai youre being dumb

okbut: Every time I see this I imagine they are the nightmare roommate that puts off dishes for their "art"

brain4brain: It looks good but GPT-4o is already good enough

brain4brain: It’s so over for midjourney

st.sioux: i imagine their computer holding them at gunpoint when she picks up a pencil to draw

spicy.lemonade: ?

brain4brain: No more moat, no more PR

spicy.lemonade: so it doesnt look like shit

spicy.lemonade: ;lol

brain4brain: Yeah, but compared to GPT-4o it’s only slightly better

spicy.lemonade: theres no more improvements that can be done on quality


spicy.lemonade: ai has no soul remember

st.sioux: reminds me of wilson in the tom hanks tropical hobo movie

st.sioux: cast away

st.sioux:

.wolfnacht: atleast it can mimick having one, but a rock cannot....now some ppl with too much esoterics knowledge will say everything is concious and everything has a mind....but in the end of the day! AI can talk and rock cannot.

ailoveyoom: If you take enough drugs rock can prolly talk

ailoveyoom: Skill issue 😎

brain4brain: By 2035 around 613 years worth of work in just a few months:

https://x.com/leopoldasch/status/1844847505886040141?s=61

cadmus101: yo i am looking for the best free chatbots for story generation. so far, i've landed on grok 2 and gemini 2.0 flash thinking on the gemini site. weirdly enough i find that the gemini on the gemini site is better than the one on aistudio in story generation

cadmus101: grok 3 and claude give you very frew free prompts before u have to pay. i know claude is praised a lot when it comes to story generation but its out of my reach lol

brain4brain: 2.8 YEARS UNTIL ASI!!!

https://x.com/tszzl/status/1903357151999037619?s=61

brain4brain: I’m just guessing the updated timeline is:
90% likelihood of “AGI” coming sooner than 3 years (before July 2027)
60% likelihood of “AGI” coming sooner than 1 year (before July 2025)

Consider Roon updated from 60% to 90% last time, it might happen again. WAGMI.

professorheaven: Roons prediction brings us to end of 2027

spicy.lemonade: 150 weekends???

spicy.lemonade: there goes my degree

brain4brain: Fancy way of saying 150 weeks

brain4brain: 2.8 years

spicy.lemonade: yes

brain4brain: You’ve seen his new official private AGI timeline? Can you share the accurate version please

fractalcomputer: Watch as absolutely fuck-all will happen.

brain4brain: Believe in the ASI, Fractual.

anathemaofmankind: Nothing ever happens

spicy.lemonade: something always happens youre just never watching

brain4brain: Why is all the emoji locked behind a paywall now

brain4brain: What happen to this server

anathemaofmankind: Capitalism

spicy.lemonade: imagine saying nothing ever happens during 1940, or 2000, or 2009

brain4brain: - NYT, December 8th 1903

fractalcomputer: We don't have the boosts anymore.

brain4brain: It’s so over 😔

fractalcomputer: Yeah, well I am a bit galled by this new culture of Twitter prophets.

brain4brain: Something ever happen

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/paul-atreides-lisan-al-gaib-muad-dib-dune-2-part-2-gif-6652943365664618564

brain4brain: ASI shall happen

spicy.lemonade: only ones you should believe are the actual researchers lol

brain4brain: (Before 2030)

spicy.lemonade: everyone else is a larper

spicy.lemonade: exept maybe jimmy apple

fractalcomputer: "Public timelines" my fucking ass. Give reasons to believe whatever bullshit you have to peddle other than having some vague connections to the industry.

fractalcomputer: Many researchers larp as well.


hikukomoru: Oh that's cute

destrucules: Why do AIs need to justify their emotions to you?

anathemaofmankind: I'm not gonna make an essay for a discord convo.

Because it would turn into an essay and I don't feel like it tbh

oooooooooog: ok, well, my opinion is that you should retire from being an edgelord and become a gooner like the rest of these people

destrucules: Edge lord but a different kind

anathemaofmankind: I'm getting called edgy.

But you know, I'm gonna have the last laugh.

Just look at the current state of the world

anathemaofmankind: I'm eating popcorn every time I bring up r/worldnews

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/alpha-wolf-sigma-male-gif-26562640

destrucules: Oh no did saying you want all humans to suffer result in people calling you edgy? Oh my goodness I'm so sorry how unfair

spacetimetsunami: U have really dumb takes if this isn’t irony

hikukomoru: Haha if only you knew

zoermena: Even if you are right your approach to the solution just seems impractical I mean wanting everyone to suffer??

anathemaofmankind: How so

hikukomoru: >"I want everyone to fucking die horrible deaths"
>How is this a dumb take?

oooooooooog: i guess massochistic might be a more accurate way to put it, as you are a human, and you want humans to suffer. maybe i was wrong, you are a gooner after all

oooooooooog: i'm proud

anathemaofmankind: Yes I am included

zoermena: I usually never laugh out loud to messages, Thanks! 👍

st.sioux: this shit is so funny

hikukomoru:

hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634>

anathemaofmankind: Too bad I'm gonna be right. So it doesn't matter even it's a a dumb take ig

oooooooooog: why exactly would ASI want to do this though...?

oooooooooog: just wondering lol

spacetimetsunami: Why do you think you’re going to be right

spacetimetsunami: None of it makes sense

destrucules: In the SFIA server, we had this guy a couple years ago who insisted that the solution to the Fermi Paradox is that all civilizations eventually discover that they're morally obligated to destroy all life in the universe because otherwise there will be lots of wild animal suffering, so the only civilizations that ever reach the interstellar stage are genocidal locusts who kill everything in their wake. This conversation reminds me of him

spacetimetsunami: Have you been binging yud?

spacetimetsunami: He’s more good faith than this person

oooooooooog: binging yud would make it seem like thats a 1% risk and humans all dying instantly and painlessly is more likely lol

oooooooooog: via like, nano crystaline bacteria or something

spacetimetsunami: Doesn’t he think that it will be quick but not instant ?

anathemaofmankind: Governments will use AGI for war. Which will cause great suffering for many years.

Because we never learn from history.

A single unaligned ASI will realize the futility of human nature and press the shut down button

oooooooooog: did you perchance just read... i have no mouth and i must scream?

destrucules: He thinks we all basically die on the same day all at once, very quickly and with no time to react or do anything at all

spacetimetsunami: I’ve showed you material that proves that it’s incredibly unlikely that AI systems will follow those kinds of instructions

spacetimetsunami: Like

anathemaofmankind: I never claimed this

spacetimetsunami: I’ve already done this

oooooooooog: not you, yud


drewsni: all the online google employees are so mad

drewsni: like i kinda feel bad for them now

ailoveyoom: I guess this is OAI's Veo vs Sora moment lol

hikukomoru: who

wellmeaningalien: GEMINI 2.5 PRO OUTPUT SPEED

wellmeaningalien: THE BEST MODEL ON ARTIFICIAL ANALYSIS & LIVEBENCH AND ONLY SECOND BEHIND GEMINI 2.0 FLASH IN SPEED

wellmeaningalien: WTF IS GOOGLE COOKING

drewsni: nah i straight up dont believe that

gamerbath: holy moly. If I knew it was that fast I would be using it already

drewsni: it took longer to complete the 2.5 pro deepguessr runs than it did any other model, not including the rate limit

wellmeaningalien: O3 LEVEL PERFORMANCE AND SO CHEAP AND FAST

wellmeaningalien:

drewsni: im actually calling bs on that lol

wellmeaningalien: oh

777agical:

spicy.lemonade: No the image

spicy.lemonade: There’s been a lot of captions

wellmeaningalien: hard

spicy.lemonade: Of “why is he like this”

gamerbath: idk, it says 79 for 3.7 sonnet but i'm always getting ~40

.histic: what's the free limit for 2.5 on aistudio?

.histic: i think 50 per day?

gamerbath: 5 requests per minute

drewsni: they could be using vertex idk

st.sioux: 2rpm 50req/day

spicy.lemonade: HOLYYY

spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/thats-hot-busted-nut-gif-21810567

ailoveyoom: Brother just test it on AI Studio

st.sioux: for free

drewsni: i mean...

drewsni: i tested it with 750 images and it was the slowest out of all models, aside from maybe 4.5 which i tested on release day

ailoveyoom: <@471334973379706900> How fast is o3-mini usually

spicy.lemonade: On average

spicy.lemonade: For math

spicy.lemonade: 3 mins

spicy.lemonade: Hardest

spicy.lemonade: 8-9 mins

ailoveyoom:

drewsni: Maybe it’s just way slower when doing multimodal?

spicy.lemonade: Yeah 2.5 is already much faster


anathemaofmankind: Wrong

hikukomoru: Gross

futurist_wizard: Silence degen

alejandrozarzuelo: Most yaoi is horrible

alejandrozarzuelo: Like, genuinely horrible

hikukomoru: Total Yuri Love

alejandrozarzuelo: Like sexual predators level of horrible

anathemaofmankind: The art is garbage I agree

futurist_wizard: I don't watch porn anymore

futurist_wizard: I wouldn't know

alejandrozarzuelo: I only do now that I live with my parents and can't be asexually active

hikukomoru: I love toxic yuri

futurist_wizard: You can't go to other peoples places?

okbut: Thailand be like "We're the only Southeast Asian country never colonized 😎 " and then drive on the left side of the road

futurist_wizard: Especially if you go to uni

futurist_wizard: There are people that live on campus and shit

hikukomoru: No gay sex for alehandro 🥀

alejandrozarzuelo: Can I? Sure

Do I? Sporadically

But damn it's not easy, specially since I don't like hook-ups much

If we can't have a 6h conversation before fucking I don't want it

futurist_wizard: I also live with parents, no way would i being anyone back here

anathemaofmankind: Yuri incest

hikukomoru: This is the part where Alejandro starts talking about his grindr escapades

hikukomoru: Wtf

st.sioux: goon chat is back i see

rayanquitplayin: Lol same, I could’ve never bring someone home

alejandrozarzuelo: I guess it's easy to have sex if you just care about the sex part

Hook-ups can take as little as 15 mins

anathemaofmankind: Mommy/daughter so peak

alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like that tho

futurist_wizard: I don't hook up at all

hikukomoru: This time it's not my fault

futurist_wizard: One night stands i do not find are pleasant

alejandrozarzuelo: My escapades are actually pretty fun

Again, I really like to meet people I can have a great time no sex included

Then sex is ok, but only as an addendum

futurist_wizard: Especially not a guy

futurist_wizard: No way

alejandrozarzuelo: Sex is like frosting

It makes a cake better, but just frosting is not much of a dessert

wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/barbie-ryan-gosling-wink-margot-robbie-handsome-gif-7779535681814001194

alejandrozarzuelo: You need substance first

hikukomoru: All of your analogies are awful

wellmeaningalien: Die !!

alejandrozarzuelo: Why lol

futurist_wizard: I need to know them for at least 24 hours


metaldragon01: Same for coders

spicy.lemonade: I got the most likes on my Ai art

spicy.lemonade: wasnt banned

metaldragon01: Bottom 50% gone

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

metaldragon01: Let the artist grieve lol

zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>

spicy.lemonade: anyone who does freelance art is cooked

metaldragon01: They are loud because they see what's coming

spicy.lemonade: unless its for game dev/animation

metaldragon01: Ai still can't edit super well

brain4brain: https://x.com/dimitrispapail/status/1906524049053827289?s=61

spicy.lemonade: 4o still has kinks

brain4brain: Only a matter of time

metaldragon01: Ofc

zonchao: they have always been loud, even when it was shit during dalle days and none of them thought it'll improve

brain4brain: These people show signs of low intelligence, only thinking everything will stay the same and not change

st.sioux: i think more than bottom 50% of coders being gone, entry-level jobs will now start at mid-level, like the barrier will shift upwards but not by much, maybe 3-4 yoe

zonchao: I don't think it's necessarily low intelligence, many on the code subs do it too

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

metaldragon01: Art can still be made by humans

metaldragon01: Ai just changes the price

spicy.lemonade: I think coders stopped coping after o3

spicy.lemonade: lol

zonchao: i think for a lot of comms ai just replaces the artist

spicy.lemonade: during o1 they were like "so many errors, so bad"

spicy.lemonade: now everyone is talking about vibecoding

spicy.lemonade: even prime

spicy.lemonade: lol

zonchao: he was paid to do that

zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

spicy.lemonade: and fireship

fractalcomputer: Vibe coding? Really?

metaldragon01: Inevitable

spicy.lemonade: still

spicy.lemonade: he mentions his use of claude

spicy.lemonade: in streams

spicy.lemonade: speaks highly

spicy.lemonade: same

st.sioux: i think this is mostly due to their audience being people early in their career or students


drewsni: And now nobody can make money recording music

alejandrozarzuelo: ppp deflator

precariousworlds.: id wager 70% on twitter are edgy 19 yr olds doing gender studies in the us

zonchao: 11L fuck 11L

tors.exe: Does anyone here still not have gpt4 new image generator on free tier ?

zonchao: <:6_champ_what:849942903576330270>

alejandrozarzuelo: oh come on

alejandrozarzuelo: this is an economics term

zonchao: I have it

alejandrozarzuelo: basically it means tht similar goods of similar quality have to be adjusted to lower prices

drewsni: That’s fair, I commission on avg 1-2 art pieces a year but they’re always to non-twitter artists who actually like formally study art overseas typically

drewsni: Not that it makes them good

tors.exe: Weird mine still say its Dall e ?!

drewsni: But they’re really good and I pay them well for their craft

zonchao: europe?

tors.exe: Algeria

zonchao: is that in europe

tors.exe: north africa

sweetievee__33649: i didnt get mine until recently i think you just gotta wait it out

zonchao: hmm

zonchao: idk then

ailoveyoom: Even now with AI, you still commission people?

zonchao: reddit artists >>>> especially when they give you higher def shit for free

drewsni: I’m literally picking this oil painting up in 3 hours. Had it commissioned for my wife’s birthday (it’s our cat)

drewsni: Like I’ve never been against paying art

sweetievee__33649: this might just be me but i would never. if i can just get an art peice in less than a minite and its better than the thing they are going to make i dont see the point

sweetievee__33649: aww thats pretty cute though

drewsni: It’s the anime convention artists that drive prices to literal bottom barrel prices that I take issue with

_cloudost: I created a new account and got it right away

_cloudost: Make a new account

drewsni: But in the end it’s all noise, the good artists will still be commissioned for good pieces even when AI can make whatever you want

sweetievee__33649: its probably just a location thing

futurist_wizard: Catty

hikukomoru: Hello your holiness, try to create a new account

sweetievee__33649: people in the us are gonna get it sooner than everywhere else

tors.exe: i will make new one then and see . thanks for advice

futurist_wizard: People in Europe could get it at the same time as the us but we are safety cucks

sweetievee__33649: hope it goes well

ailoveyoom: This makes me wonder if there's a middle ground somewhere. A future where AI art and commissioning people can co-exist?

futurist_wizard: We sit in the cuck chair and watch Americans have all the fun with ai


shirethedreamer: well... not only do i think neural nets learn... even recombining is still fair use

spicy.lemonade: Republicans are pro whatver if it fits overal agenda. republicans overall especially trumps base(evangelicals) dont like tech like vaccines etc

anathemaofmankind: All of his takes are literally bad

alejandrozarzuelo: not really, if you take two private works of art and you swap half of the pixels of each it is not fair use

thats how crappy youtube videos of films get uploaded, they crop the 10% left of the image

frittata: Not remotely, it’s just that the RW pro AI bros yap way more about non AI

frittata: In AI servers

alejandrozarzuelo: if you do believe they dont learn then not using public works is illegal

alejandrozarzuelo: i do believe they learn

frittata: https://tenor.com/view/koshitan-huh-wat-wut-what-gif-2100234513926577044

alejandrozarzuelo: but some people disagree

spicy.lemonade: its just one large math function 🙏  not copying anything

spicy.lemonade: lol

alejandrozarzuelo: we are also one large math function

anathemaofmankind: Non liberals include centrists and people like me who don't align to anything.

By default that means liberals are in the minority and I'm right

connorsphone.: Literally. Lmao

spicy.lemonade: i like how artists can both say AI cant learn but at the same time AI learns from copyright art

spicy.lemonade: which is it

alejandrozarzuelo: liberals are a minority but so are conservatives, and leftists, and moderates, and libertarians

alejandrozarzuelo: no ideology has a majority anywhere

anathemaofmankind: No they think it's mix mashing stuff like a collage

alejandrozarzuelo: except in the glorious PRC

(and even there not really)

anathemaofmankind: They're stupid

spicy.lemonade: lol

spicy.lemonade: in that case

spicy.lemonade: its legal

spicy.lemonade: even more so

ailoveyoom: Are you all still yapping about artists 💀

spicy.lemonade: I hate artists

frittata: Unfortunately

anathemaofmankind: Yes but my original sentence stands correct then 😏

alejandrozarzuelo: no, we are talking politics

shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-mouse-oh-really-what-did-you-say-gif-4567866740137164332

connorsphone.: 🙄

anathemaofmankind: I hate humans

maintcrew: hey guys i want to draw me and my wife in ghibli style should i pay an artist 5 morbillion or use chatgpt

anathemaofmankind: There I win the hatred olympics

frittata: Ok haha, also “most pro AI users are non rightwing,” enough fake points let’s move on

spicy.lemonade: NO YOU SCUMBAG PAY AN ARTIST

alejandrozarzuelo: i dont hate artists, i only hate artists who gatekeep art to others (and other intelligences)

fractalcomputer: Another expert in neuroscience here.


hikukomoru: Of course

hey1_1hey: I dont, people can goon to femboy ghilbi me for all I care

ailoveyoom: Ahegao shit

ailoveyoom: Milder

hey1_1hey: Aheago litterly doesnt even look human to me

hikukomoru: Do you just like pause the screen while watching a show and start jorkin it

hey1_1hey: Mich mach dont talk

futurist_wizard: For some reason i always assumed you hadn't

hey1_1hey: Plead the fifth

hikukomoru: Wtf why?

hey1_1hey: Yeah same tbh

futurist_wizard: You give off virgin energy idk

ailoveyoom: It almost feels like an empathy thing. I focus on their face, imagine how good they must be feeling, then jerk 🤔

futurist_wizard: Mushroom knows

wolf3404: Sama is swindling as usual

futurist_wizard: Tbf so does mushroom

futurist_wizard: No offence

hey1_1hey: What do I know?

hikukomoru: Everyone has the wrong opinion of me

ailoveyoom: What about me 🥺

hikukomoru: Cuck thing??

hey1_1hey: Mich mach is a cuck confirmed

hey1_1hey: ggs

futurist_wizard: I think you already know

hikukomoru: Get in the chair bitchboy

ldj: Wtf did I just walk into.
I was about to say good morning chat

ldj: 😦

hey1_1hey: Good monring san

hikukomoru: <@312370916820779040> did you know <@430269783112548362> is a cuck and <@1004153620025065482> is into Fractal

ailoveyoom: Idk what do they get off to?

ldj: Yes its well known lore

hey1_1hey: I can rule out humiliation I'm pretty sure

hikukomoru: You don't know what cucks get off too

hikukomoru: Ask <@439829942310666250>

hey1_1hey: Thats fucked

futurist_wizard: Can't believe <@505313122802728972> took this video of themselves

hey1_1hey: Take that back right now or I will... I'll do something

hikukomoru: I can't believe MichMach got off to this in VC

hey1_1hey: This should be attached to the dfinitation of "virgin" in the urban dictonary

ldj: Chat please talk about off topic things in <#1136231504440201216>


sieventer: <:catcry:1187466366006087862>🇪🇺

shirethedreamer: ...did the immigrant take your job?

sieventer: You want to start a debate about why I think mass immigration in Europe is wrong, really? <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>

zonchao: pls <#1136231504440201216>

futurist_wizard: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-set-broaden-arrests-deportation-routes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

zonchao: <#1136231504440201216>

futurist_wizard: <#1136231504440201216>

zonchao: we need to make number big

shirethedreamer: i want to start a debate for why you perceive immigrants in europe a worse threat than an AI  empowered surveillance state that you go on and beg for it to be brought to straight to your doorstep
shit is wild to me

sieventer: Ideally, neither scenario. But I'm clear that I prefer an automated deporting dystopian AI to the Islamization and Africanization of Europe

shirethedreamer: its funny that every one cheering for this right now doesn't exactly grasp that that same system is going to be used against them in the very near future...for behavior and actions that you are not going to perceive is wrong or illegal at the time
think twice before critiquing your ruling party or even the extremists opposition while the system is monitoring you (while its officially just looking for illegals). Because a couple of years down the road you are going to get the stick

zonchao: please <#1136231504440201216>

sieventer: I'll answer in off topic

realelonmuskx: who wants to mate we must ensure the continuation of the species

zonchao: ❌

Autogun Heroes#6410:

a1c4p0ne:

zonchao: what is this

st.sioux: dog

retrerox: We should ask ai...

nsec: ELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

nsec: SINGULARITY PEEPS

nsec: we got agi yet

retrerox:

nsec: mfs are discussin rats

nsec: its over

nsec: we aint ever gettin agi

retrerox: I mean many test that allowed our species to grown has been done on rats...}

hikukomoru: I look like this

nsec: jesse what the FUCK are u talking about

nsec:

hikukomoru:

literallyvarane: Im sleep on it. Doesn’t strike me as something wildly impressive. It’s just an inferior Google maps for that particular use case. Impressive AI demos should demonstrate something that’s uniquely enabled by AI, either in time performance, quality of output, price or some mixture of the three.

nsec: good question ask your mother

nsec: <:welldone:429630480594501633>

nsec: she knows me well

hikukomoru:

nsec: for those of u who know me, u will be aware by now that my ambition is unlimited

nsec: u know that I will settle for nothing short of greatness, or I will die trying

nsec: for those of u who do not yet know me


zonchao: cus they dropped it on a saturday

zonchao: no shit 😭

spicy.lemonade: shit imo

spicy.lemonade: the benchmark they posted is cringe

spicy.lemonade: and lying by ommision

zonchao: i saw some on twitter saying openai is testing a 1M model on the arena

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: what does blue

spicy.lemonade: even mean

.histic: i predict that's an update for o4-mini.
small model with a large context is easier to serve.
like Meta did with their smaller model today.

spicy.lemonade: is blue 50% accuracy?

spicy.lemonade: 100%?

spicy.lemonade: it could be 30%

.wolfnacht: that storm is gemini-2.5-thinking and gemini-coder

spicy.lemonade: for all we know

spicy.lemonade: we already have 2.5 thinking

christiskingrapturenxtmonth: wrong. Here's a hint 🐳

.histic: how's that a crazy idea?

.wolfnacht: the checkpoints where the model shitted itself

spicy.lemonade: im saying

spicy.lemonade: wors benchmark

.wolfnacht: sowwie, i meant flash-thinking

spicy.lemonade: ive ever seen

.wolfnacht: qwen3's next week.

okbut: Disagree, that's when us nerds are most active

spicy.lemonade: why didnt they use a color scaler

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: green to red

spicy.lemonade: makes me think its bad

hikukomoru: Oof that fucking hurts
And I was expecting so much from them

.histic: fk, i mean 4o-mini <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
shit, i'm surprised i got it mixed up.

hikukomoru: Everything nice I said about Llama 4, I take it back

okbut:

okbut: How good at coding tho

.wolfnacht: now i just hope google doesn't lobotomize gemini-2.5-pro, otherwise it would be soo over. i would have to use deepseek like every other guy

.histic: people estimated 4o-mini to be a pretty small model.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1ebz4rt/gpt_4o_mini_size_about_8b/

okbut: Deep what

st.sioux:

.wolfnacht: sorry i used the language of /g/

.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1jsl37d/im_incredibly_disappointed_with_llama4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


ldj: Now you understand how nonsensical your message was

ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>

drewsni: >opens stream
>suleyman talking
>uninstall windows

zoermena: Do you think o4 mini will be was good as o3 base?

ldj: Better in some things, worse in others.

spicy.lemonade: is o3 mini high as good as o1 base?

spicy.lemonade: nope

spicy.lemonade: only at maths

spicy.lemonade: and specific coding

wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/sama/status/1908167621624856998?t=Hc6q1lcF75PvNra3th99EA

wellmeaningalien: o4 mini 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

wellmeaningalien: what the sigma

literallyvarane: I feel like you’re just interpreting it in bad faith tbh. It makes sense lol.

wellmeaningalien: these o models are popping up like every 3 months now

wellmeaningalien: cant wait to see it vs arc agi

futurist_wizard:

drewsni: LMAOOOOOOOOO

drewsni: HOW DO YOU GET A PALESTINE PROTEST IN A PRIVATE EVENT

wellmeaningalien: well the fact that the predictions were that pre training scaling was tapering off yet they're still finding new was to improve base models

wellmeaningalien: preddy cool

drewsni: bro did bill gates just get up

drewsni: what the fuck microsoft

wellmeaningalien: what u talking about

wellmeaningalien: the copilot event?

drewsni: yeah

drewsni: someone just interupted it for a solid minute or two

wellmeaningalien: ❓

drewsni: worth it just to hear suleyman be put in an extremely awkard situation

wellmeaningalien: like someone jumped on stage?

drewsni: off to the side

drewsni: but you heard everything they said

drewsni: audio guy is gonna get fired

zoermena: Thanks! 👍

shirethedreamer:

shirethedreamer: july 2023

shirethedreamer: 😆

shirethedreamer: just a few more months away
im serious bruh

ldj: Where is the stream link pls

drewsni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5THCzTNPNk

drewsni: it happened before the trailer video that just played


hikukomoru: Single-handedly ruining the server smh

hey1_1hey: I wouldn't go that far

hey1_1hey: I am not openly racist so I think I am doing really well thank you very much

darkstar0818: I blame AI for programming humans to be better automatons.

zoermena: Dalle profile picture why no 4o

fractalcomputer: We all should just be discussing motivic cohomology theory.

zonchao: no homo in <#1136230110891081821> please

memlaswaif: I feel like half the people that talk here don't even care about ai that much

zoermena: Im stupid what is that

memlaswaif: We just here for the drama and vibes fr

hikukomoru: He's like 60 give him a break

fractalcomputer: https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/motivic+cohomology

hikukomoru: I care about AI very much
I'm just not smart enough to actually talk about it

drewsni: One day an AI will release that actually lives up to your expectations and we will never hear from you again

fractalcomputer: That will be in about 25 years.

zoermena: I would have to sacrifice sleep to study and eventually catch up to fractal

darkstar0818: I have seen the future of singularitarianism and this is it.

fractalcomputer: See, this is what I mean by a cult of personality.

fractalcomputer: Sigh.

zoermena: Praise fractal?

fractalcomputer: Praise Fractal.

darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/baelO.gif

memlaswaif: I'm dumb too tbf

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/dsad-gif-25352352

memlaswaif: this server is just a shism for us low iq baddies to interac

fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-as-written-as-it-was-written-dune-2-gif-17037878501394955153

darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/lqVOeYkzrxH.gif

zoermena: Unfortunately I have to get back to work, toodles

ldj: Maybe, in which case I’d be committing a moral wrong doing right now

ldj: <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106>

ldj: I admit, I like to live life on the edge <:CAUGHT:1217110650623492106>

hikukomoru: "toodles" 💅

.wolfnacht: i like this circlejerk of 12-15 people.

.wolfnacht:

ldj: on a serious note, I’ve already examined such things and had dozens of these types of conversations, and thus I feel like it’s one of the most over done, and disinteresting discussions to have. I don’t see value in having this discussion again for the 20th time. And no offense, but I’m not particularly interested in hearing your thoughts about your moral framework either (or lack thereof). So just not a productive/interesting conversation to be had from my perspective.

ldj: Some conversation topics I find interesting to have many times repeatedly with different people, but this is not one of those topics for me sorry

wellmeaningalien: bro posted his own message he screenshotted himself

wellmeaningalien: yeah give it to him lisan

hey1_1hey: Yeah are circle jerk is great. Its defintly not a cult and we defo do not have an armed militia

zonchao: https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1906565401145909536 <:Hypers:874593663827718144>


himekokatagiri: lol

himekokatagiri: then I'd be mad

himekokatagiri: I'm not the main character

himekokatagiri: meaning disposable

himekokatagiri: Meaning a p zombie

spicy.lemonade: bro who is controlling the sim😭 🙏

spicy.lemonade: gotta be elon

himekokatagiri: some nerd

himekokatagiri: nah

himekokatagiri: worst part is the sim owner probably doesn't even notice us

himekokatagiri: too busy doing their own machinations

st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/president-stops-president-smiles-ominous-smile-ominous-no-answer-gif-78197234359887585

spicy.lemonade: i mean why would you time travel and not be in a powerful position

himekokatagiri: this is what's funny this conversation

himekokatagiri: will probably be simulated

spicy.lemonade: sim owner has to be someone in power

himekokatagiri: 300 times over

spicy.lemonade: damn

himekokatagiri: dude with ASI anyone will be able to run a sim

juweigege_54993: No, he's not.

spicy.lemonade: this will actually be in a sim

st.sioux: if i was in charge tof the simulation i woulndt make myself so universally hated

spicy.lemonade: and the sim versions of us will be wondering

spicy.lemonade: if we are simulated

himekokatagiri: gotta make a mental note

spicy.lemonade: YOOO

himekokatagiri: come back here

himekokatagiri: in the sim

himekokatagiri: and fuck with you all

himekokatagiri: like that wheelchair guy time travel conference

himekokatagiri: forgot his name

himekokatagiri: damn

spicy.lemonade: AGI 2027 march 13th 10am pst

himekokatagiri: Stephen hawkings

spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

himekokatagiri: April 23rd 2025 3:34AM

himekokatagiri: already wrote it down

st.sioux: imagine

joaoluz19: We could be just one of many simulations with the aim of making the best simulation for a person.

himekokatagiri: We already have the solution


zoermena: No, the height.

futurist_wizard: Face

hikukomoru: Penor

zoermena: Penaar

hey1_1hey: Guys I just had a thought alright

maintcrew: i think reclaiming yourself

you cant resist always because you go through different mood shifts and other chemical inbalances which can affect your power to resist

hikukomoru: Wtf I thought Mexico was more socially conservative than the US

hey1_1hey: So suicide. Pretty bad right?

futurist_wizard: They mean height

maintcrew: he(she?) means height

zoermena: It is but my height is not far from the average.

hikukomoru: You need to tell me now
I got curious

zoermena: You can use he/him dw.

hey1_1hey: I just figured out how to cure suicidality. Bare with me

You are feeling suicidal
I give you a million dollars
Do you feel suicidal anymore?
Prob not

hikukomoru: <@465177408073498634> are you a she or he or it or them

zoermena: I'll add to my bio.

maintcrew: i will be long dead in the cold cold ground before i use they

.wolfnacht: they let the cute ones live

hey1_1hey: Them billionnaires need to fork over some cash

maintcrew: NOOOOO

wellmeaningalien: thatd actually help a shit load cause i could give myself therapy and make my family well off forever

a1c4p0ne:

hey1_1hey: Exactly

hey1_1hey: All your issues

hey1_1hey: Gone

wellmeaningalien: yuuup

hey1_1hey: Are you a mushroom man addict or smth?

hikukomoru: I'm going to start using that as your pronouns

maintcrew: then lock in

wellmeaningalien: bro gemini is dying its having a seizure

a1c4p0ne: Yessirr

oooooooooog: depends on the cause of it, if the cause is that your family was just brutally murdered and you don't want to live without them, a million isnt going to help much there

wellmeaningalien: on it boss !

.wolfnacht:

hey1_1hey: How did it go from this. To this

wellmeaningalien: tbh ai is really making things uncertain tho

a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>

hikukomoru: You would be average in portugal too 👍

hey1_1hey: Talk about the school shooter atire

futurist_wizard: Fine, i swear to god it works, im 24 ive seen results from it, its bonemashing, just hitting your cheekbones and jaw every so often


trent_k: i think the only one I've ever read from him is The Road

trent_k: pretty good, but a bit of a bummer

fractalcomputer: Did you like it?

fractalcomputer: His works are mired with the endlessness of nihilism.

trent_k: didnt they adapt the road into a tv show or a movie or something?

trent_k: doesn't seem to be the type of thing that would adapt well

.0xunkn0wn: wdym

.0xunkn0wn: Lmao Gemini told me everything

.0xunkn0wn: It said I need nice opsec

.0xunkn0wn: VPNs

.0xunkn0wn: and everything

3e47f5: i mean that if you let it loose you can lose money

.0xunkn0wn: oh

3e47f5: not about getting caught

trent_k: if anyone in here has a million dollars

.0xunkn0wn: I mean

trent_k: i can turn that into a half million real fast

.0xunkn0wn: I'm probably gonna start it on paper trading

fractalcomputer: I finished reading his book, the Passenger, a few days ago. Four hundred or so pages spent exploring the grief of a single man, interspersed with the occasional discussion on the assassination of Kennedy and the nature of evil; only to end in the surety of the looming, natural end of the protagonist, even if it never came in the book.

trent_k: is Kafka any good

3e47f5: good luck

fractalcomputer: I haven't read Kafka.

fractalcomputer: Have you read Murakami?

trent_k: I tried reading the one book of his that I can't remember the name of. a man is sent to a rural village where he has to search for someone to serve them court papers or something, but he can't find them. I got what he was trying to do, you know, with the whole beaurocracy sucks message, but the book was a bit too slow

.0xunkn0wn: I think I'll want this to be the first ever fully thinking trading bot that will also take in account current news, global situation, twitter feed, etc

trent_k: no, I remember you've recommended murakami in the past though

fractalcomputer: Oh, might have done that. Sure.

fractalcomputer: He's a good author.

trent_k: you're gonna get fuckin cooked

3e47f5: these definitely already exist, deepseek was trying to do that years ago, yes, the ceo of deepseek

.0xunkn0wn: 😭

.0xunkn0wn: why

.0xunkn0wn: years ago

3e47f5: i was chinese

.0xunkn0wn: the situation is changing with each day

fractalcomputer: Now, McCarthy has had something of an impact on me -- now that I've finished reading at least a few of his books in the last couple of months or so; to the degree of which to consider changing my profile picture to a picture of McCarthy's, in his older days.

3e47f5: <@841711608236474410> now i see why that ft was good

.0xunkn0wn: why ya think im gonna get cooked

.0xunkn0wn: is asking saudi princes better

trent_k: no way bro, I like lovecraft better and also it's a better fit for the technological singularity


drewsni: It would be funny if the reality is that r1/v3 was only as good as it was because it trained on o1 outputs and so if they released in May, r2 would only be marginally better since o3 wouldn’t be out in time

st.sioux: lol imagine this is why openai wont release o3, so deepseek cant release r2

drewsni: If it was anyone but deepseek I’d say it’s actually true

metaldragon01: Kimi is slept on...

metaldragon01: Qwen 32b qwq should be a wake up call too

_3sphere: https://tenor.com/view/niko-ballin-one-shot-gif-26638177

joaoluz19: Gigachad

spacetimetsunami: Why did you dm me weird pics of dead bodies

spacetimetsunami: Fucking freak

i_like_over_9000_turtles: You can't spell Necromantic without romantic...

spacetimetsunami: Nah it was super weird

spacetimetsunami: Incel as fuck

clevermoniker: Daily reminder, no AGI no ASI this year

.histic: true

st.sioux: just report

spacetimetsunami: Did but idk i should have ss it so I have proof

spacetimetsunami: Just didn’t feel like screenshotting said photo, as you may understand

.histic: https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1903141468723704213
this guy is a grifter that keeps on grifting. lol

.histic: https://x.com/iruletheworldmo/status/1903132796157079584

clevermoniker: posting this guy should not be allowed, even to mock him

clevermoniker: he lives on attention good or bad

connorsphone.: This guy is as trustworthy as a bucket of chipmunks

st.sioux: what did chipmunks do to u bro

connorsphone.: Never trust the chipmunks…

hikukomoru: <@456226577798135808> explain yourself

futurist_wizard: Might be how they greet eachother in his country

futurist_wizard: The R/singularity community is so diverse

hikukomoru: There's lots of freaky dudes here ngl
Something about the Singularity attracts the worst of the worst

.histic: omfg.
OpenAI finally updated the web version of ChatGPT to have fade-in effect for outputs like they've always had on the app.
AGI soon.

.histic: 4.5 with this effect makes me feel the AGI more.

ailoveyoom: Why no freaky women 😔

hikukomoru:

.histic: they're on the streets

.histic: just give them 5 bucks and they'll do wonders 2 you.

ailoveyoom: You are 🤯

memlaswaif: <@749514473303179358> might want to take a look at this

memlaswaif: Might be the same guy that got banned like 30 times already

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotizes-hypnotizes-you-meme-tiktok-gif-16087506375762108841

hikukomoru: You're freaky in the wrong way bitch

.histic: he sent me a picture of dead cats now.


zonchao: its called xitter

zonchao: <:angry_doggo_hd:1230838420222382120>

inferno0879: just call it the shitter

ailoveyoom: You kinda have to get creative with it, that "make a dungeon map out of this spritesheet" (input image) example was super cool

ailoveyoom: And making GIFs by getting it to generate sequential images (then putting them together in another app)

_cloudost: This Gemini feature existed since a century but the technology was only released a month ago by the sketchy US illuminati government, US and Russia were always allies

_cloudost: And shared this technology with each other

professorheaven: That’s how they faked the moon landing

.wolfnacht: in the ancient ages u were able to use snapseed to remove anything in the background, idk why ppl are crazy rn

.wolfnacht: shitter*

_cloudost: PS: Didn't know this was made with Grok image editor

drewsni: Did grok get Gemini-like image editing and is it good or not

hey1_1hey: https://fxtwitter.com/tobi/status/1903428775779717596 vibe coders need to step down, vibe composing is in

drewsni: All of that compute wasted on a track that sounds worse than a 90s kids sampler

drewsni: I actually expected it to be 10x better

.wolfnacht: what is vibe coding btw ? i've been hearing about it since last few days.

just by hearing the word it seems like "they" wants to normalize AI writing your code but with inducing positive emotions instead of negative one, afterall they don't want to make people feel in a negative sense that AI writing their 80-90% is taking away their work, job or even credit.

drewsni: just where you dont check AI code basically

drewsni: just copy/paste to the extreme

otub: blame karpathy https://fixupx.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383?s=61

ldj:

okbut: Think of a toolshed, you don't always pick up the hammer

ldj:

okbut: All things considered (benchmarks, user ratings, API cost UI, on and on) I think there are few things OAI's stuff is "best" for

ldj:

joaoluz19: I only pay for gpt because it's the only one that renders math via Latex lol

okbut: What's the goal with that Latex? Loaded question

joaoluz19: Just answer questions and help solve math problems

joaoluz19: In linear algebra, for example, it is common to get more correct than the monitors.

okbut: Oh yeah, it's great for readability
Gemini (And I think Grok) does so too btw, but I'm moving toward using external tools (plugins etc) for that kind of readability

okbut: I just worry about instructing them to focus on the Latex format might impact its focus on providing accurate results

okbut: That and all other UI considerations

zonchao: https://x.com/nearcyan/status/1903557671619612894

joaoluz19: I asked Grok to solve an algebra problem just now and he sent it only in ASCII

okbut: Kek

zoermena: Is that matrix stuff?

hey1_1hey: All this math talk really makes me want to do go do some more maths, off I go

okbut: That being said, I prefer the models return it in whatever format it has been trained to do so (or one that retains its focus on a proper answer) and having some tool automatically convert it to a format I like

zoermena: How does one go off to do maths like practice problems? 👀

joaoluz19: I just asked grok to invent and solve a problem, but yes, to pass the linear system to a matrix in this case

hey1_1hey: Yeah, I am just working my way through practice problems. My goal is to be able to understand AI and to eventually work on it as a researcher


spicy.lemonade: https://forum.cursor.com/t/deepseek-r2-in-just-2-days-according-to-the-official-announcement/82245

spicy.lemonade: yo????

spicy.lemonade: potentially sota week

spicy.lemonade: big if true

alejandrozarzuelo: yessssss

alejandrozarzuelo: oh R2 would be a godsend at this point

alejandrozarzuelo: btw i just bought GPT plus and one week later R2 drops

alejandrozarzuelo: last time i bought GPT plus one week later R1 dropped

alejandrozarzuelo: im starting to wonder if the AI gods have cursed me

.wolfnacht: it's last of april now and R2 is supposed to drop in early may, maybe

777agical: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1914632795357323678?s=46

fractalcomputer: > ACCELERATE

A wonderful example of the degeneration of modern communication.

alejandrozarzuelo: one word slogans are easy to remember and thus have been used since forever

fractalcomputer: Why, Alejandro, you sure do like rolling your eyes.

777agical: https://tenor.com/view/accelerate-acceleration-vaporwave-aesthetic-gif-17950038

fractalcomputer: Thanks for stating the obvious. One might also wonder why this (our?) movement has started using such simple language.

alejandrozarzuelo: you said degeneration of modern communication

alejandrozarzuelo: but there is nothing modern about this

fractalcomputer: It's posted on an impersonal, optionally anonymous mass media platform with an outreach for the hundreds of thousands if not millions. There is nothing un-modern about this.

alejandrozarzuelo: the only difference is the format not the content

fractalcomputer: You think the medium and the message are separate?

alejandrozarzuelo: they are, even if they influence each other

to be honest, not even mass communication is that new, since at least the mid 19th century its been common in the more developed parts of the world

alejandrozarzuelo: as soon as people began to be literate en masse, there has been this sort of communication

alejandrozarzuelo: from sufragist papers

alejandrozarzuelo: to revolutionary pamphlets

alejandrozarzuelo: to the sensationalist newspapers

alejandrozarzuelo: unless by modern you mean the world since the industrial revolution, but i wasnt expecting a kancynsky (however it may be written) perspective on you

spicy.lemonade: Niceeee

spicy.lemonade: This is actually right on schedule

spicy.lemonade: With AI 2027 paper

sarik0497: Hm. Did anyone else have access to “o4-mini-high” before? Because I just got it today <:Hmm:956951826933112842>

fractalcomputer: Now we've got religious texts.

spicy.lemonade: 👍

spicy.lemonade: Bro is late

fractalcomputer: I mean, this isn't even about good spirited prediction anymore. It's literally just citing the scripture.

spicy.lemonade: “Wow this forecaster was correct”

spicy.lemonade: That's the job of a forecaster

alejandrozarzuelo: the 2027 paper however relies on hyperbolic growth which should not be taken for granted

fractalcomputer: I guess I must have slept through a whole year.

777agical: schizo scripture is all you need


alejandrozarzuelo: also mayday is a very important chinese date

alejandrozarzuelo: i mean its important for most of the world but china takes it a step further

3ds0662: ?

3ds0662: explain

alejandrozarzuelo: are you american?

3ds0662: yes lol

3ds0662: why would I know about china mayday

alejandrozarzuelo: May day is the first of may also called international workers day

it is a holiday on virtually every country on earth except the US

alejandrozarzuelo: and a few others

alejandrozarzuelo: it is a very celebrated day all across the world

alejandrozarzuelo:

3ds0662: this explain

alejandrozarzuelo: may day is a socialist holiday

3ds0662: ohh

alejandrozarzuelo: it celebrates the tenacity of the workers against their struggle with the capitalist class

alejandrozarzuelo: and the only countries that dont celebrate it are hyper capitalist nations or islamist countries

alejandrozarzuelo: as you can understand, in china they give it an additional importance

alejandrozarzuelo: this comment is, with a bit of hindsight, quite hilarious

No offense lol

alejandrozarzuelo: fun fact, the date was chosen because that was when the largest worker srtike against capitalists in the history of the United States happened, and the international socialist union chose it for its significance

its funny how this is taught and celebrated on most countries BUT the US

3ds0662: twitter is starting to go crazy right now about the new deepseek release but deepseek themselves haven't posted yet usually post around 8-9 am

3ds0662: an hour or 2

alejandrozarzuelo: The Math model seems quite good

alejandrozarzuelo: But of course it's not R2

3ds0662: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1917307883886178347

vancebeliever: can someone tell me an actual path to superintelligence that is plausible with the current paradigm

metaldragon01: What roadblocks are you assuming we have?

gamerbath: the current paradigm is changing all the time, like with o1 reasoning, mixture of experts, and tons of other optimizations

.wolfnacht: AGI and ASI is Cancelled, go back and play super mario kart.

vancebeliever: i dont think there is anything stopping you from making the models better

vancebeliever: but thats kind of it you know

vancebeliever: I think i need to see them make money with agents first before i believe in that stuff

metaldragon01: Then maybe you should look harder

brain4brain: SF Bay Area researcher believe AGI/ ASI will arrive in 2027 and leads to the singularity

Catholic believe judgement day will happen in 2027 during the reign of the last pope

Jewish have a 6000 years countdown to a messiah and a heaven with alternative calculations it will arrive in 2027

The UFO schizoid on twitter believe alien will make an arrival and first contact to humanity in 2027

The politics schizoid believe the Chinese will invade Taiwan in 2027 and lead to WW3

The schizoid schizoid believe the world order will reset in 2027 to prevent the Chinese century from happening

The climate schizoid believe the climate clock will run out in 2027

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

.wolfnacht: add this to your list too:

The spirituality, astrology and starseed schizo's believe 2027 is the year earth will go through a 5D shift unlocking hoomanity potential.

brain4brain: The anime schizoid believe 2027 is when the third impact will happen irl

The gamers believe GTA-6 will be delayed and finally release in 2027

brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

vancebeliever: like what do you think you have in 2027 that is dramatically different from what we have now

vancebeliever: that would be like gemini 6 pro?


spicy.lemonade: im excited

zoermena: That’s crazy not gonna lie

ailoveyoom: Source?

joaoluz19:

joaoluz19: Lol

st.sioux: apply

zoermena: Lmfao real? Send link

spicy.lemonade: WHATTTT

st.sioux: be our insider

zoermena: SEND LINK

zoermena: <:cleanteeth:1005473072863776818>

spicy.lemonade: oh my god

dean_martin: I developed ASI in my garage and now I’m going to get rich on selling it because somebody told me Jeff Bezos started in his garage and that’s proof anyone can become rich

spicy.lemonade: this is very telling

spicy.lemonade: honestly

joaoluz19: Yep, I feel the agi frequently so I am qualified

zoermena: The link!

joaoluz19: https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/6789253

dean_martin: They should hire me I have a lot of Reddit karma on r/singularity

spicy.lemonade: saw on reddit

spicy.lemonade: singularity

joaoluz19: Yep but I sent the source

nobranes: I like 4.5 for conversation but productivity I use other models

spicy.lemonade: no not that\

spicy.lemonade: 2.5 native image

joaoluz19: Oh mb

spicy.lemonade: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jyhkj4/25_pro_native_image_generation_is_coming_soon/

hikukomoru: I’m the most qualified person for this

spicy.lemonade:

dean_martin: Crazy that singularity is so big now. 3 million users, are we all crazy?

ailoveyoom: Gemini App <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>

joaoluz19: The competition is brutal

ailoveyoom: I don't trust

spicy.lemonade: i was an og smh

st.sioux: you were like 2 years old when the subreddit started

fractalcomputer: Profoundly retarded, yes.

abundantliving_: <@312370916820779040> are you working on any general purpose agents ?

if you have any ideas on what challenges could be there for not being able to release agents .

hikukomoru: I’m an OG <:ez:1136267305521774634>

dean_martin: That’s a given

spicy.lemonade: agi could come next year ngl


zoermena: Perhaps you can develop a sniper bot that can automatically send messages on your behalf

zoermena: maybe I can do that

zoermena: but I wont

abundantliving_: Why not?

zoermena: idk

gamerbath: wait what

gamerbath: I need to verify my organization to use *streaming*??

gamerbath: whyy

gamerbath: I disable streaming and I can use it

gamerbath: what's so dangerous about using streaming?

gamerbath: well this is dissapointing. o3 high failed to make a snake game

gamerbath: I didn't explicitly tell it to make a snake game, I just asked for formats to create games with a single file of code and it did this as an example

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: Its been a week

spicy.lemonade: Why don't I have veo 2

aero447: Beverage L.

ailoveyoom: What about on AI Studio?

ailoveyoom: I have mine on AI Studio

gamerbath: man i'm actually dissapointed with o3

gamerbath: I tried getting it to make a simple game, and 3.7 sonnet did way better

gamerbath: here's my prompt. ```Make this 2d game using javascript with a single html file. You can use any libraries you want, as long as it runs from that one html file. Let's start with the building part of the game and then expand on it later. It's a spacegame and you can build a spaceship. Have a build mode where you place down different blocks to build your spaceship. (Structure blocks that do nothing and thrusters for now). You can rotate blocks. After building a ship, you can control it. You must figure out the controls of how you build a ship and how you take control over it. You can build multiple ships and you can edit existing ships. The ship will use the thrusters and the thrusters only to move and rotate the ship. Thrusters only work in the direction they are placed in. When controlling the ship, the game must be smart about what thrusters to activate and at what power level to rotate and move it.```

gamerbath: 3.7 sonnet made this

gamerbath: and o3 made this... after giving feedback 3 times

gamerbath: o3 with high reasoning effort and sonnet with 56k reasoning budget

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: This video used to be fake

spicy.lemonade: But now ai can actually do this

spicy.lemonade: Lol

gamerbath: eeh

gamerbath: we have voice mode with vision, but what they showed in that "demo" was much more than that, like the AI is sitting there in the background observing and listening, choosing itself when to respond and say something instead of just responding when the user talks

gamerbath: did we hit a wall? 👉 👈 🥺

ailoveyoom: Have you tried 2.5 Pro 🥺

gamerbath: good idea

gamerbath: holy shit 2.5 pro is fast. it's just printing lines of code like it's nothing

gamerbath: huh, wierd. idk what happened but now it's like 3x slower, and this feels like regular speed

gamerbath: okay the code is longer than sonnet's

gamerbath: :(

gamerbath: I was using google AI studio but to make applying fixes easier I switched to cursor and now I need to threaten it 😞

gamerbath: a few back and forths and still nothing. the part that works looks better than sonnet's though. I'll try from scratch but with "no bugs" at the end of my prompt. that will definetly work

gamerbath: Jesse what the fuck are you doing


precariousworlds.: yeah but at least we have usb-c and those water bottles right

precariousworlds.: 🇪🇺

ailoveyoom: AI art for accessibility/democratizing art, ig commissioning stuff as a 'luxury' ?

sweetievee__33649: i dont like the new water bottle lids

drewsni: I 10000000% believe that established artists, who are good at their craft and medium will not only thrive under AI/AGI, but have a significantly increased market

sweetievee__33649: they are annoying

precariousworlds.: bigot

sweetievee__33649: sure ig i just hate water bottle lid people

hikukomoru: EU is so cucked 🙏

sweetievee__33649: even china has more stuff going on

zonchao: i wonder when we will have paint benchmarks for humanoids

zonchao: seems like a good benchmark

precariousworlds.: If Europe locked in though we would be unstoppable
Remember we once did this in like a few decades

hikukomoru: Of course they do, China is based

drewsni: Reduced suffering in the world has always led to increased appreciation for art, and the ability to pay for art

sweetievee__33649: i think there should be a cooking benchmark for humanoid robots

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ccp-cheering-cheer-china-gif-4951966975695656474

zonchao: true

precariousworlds.: 17th time komoru has posted this same gif in the last 24 hours

sweetievee__33649: how could i forget

alejandrozarzuelo: im trying to learn the red sun song for real

sweetievee__33649: i love china 😋

precariousworlds.: state propaganda used to be quality 😔

hikukomoru: Xi Jinping cock 🤤

alejandrozarzuelo: china is based

sweetievee__33649: still is if you look hard enough

precariousworlds.:

futurist_wizard: China good, ccp bad

sweetievee__33649: god i wish this was ai generated

hikukomoru: What country are you from EU cuck boy

precariousworlds.: Liechtenstein

futurist_wizard: Just had to be different didn't you

sweetievee__33649: poor guy

precariousworlds.: fuck you mean richest country in world by gdp per capita 🇱🇮 💪

sweetievee__33649: shit metric

hikukomoru: Get back in the cuck chair
Real countries are talking

precariousworlds.: fuck off

futurist_wizard: Liechtenstein is a nice place, i plan to eventually go

sweetievee__33649: china 😏

hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-xi-jinping-love-xi-jinping-gif-23563083


a1c4p0ne: Agreed

a1c4p0ne: Download poe app

.histic: doesn't that have a limit

a1c4p0ne: They give you 3000 points and resets

.histic: also, lmsys has 4o-mini on direct chat for free.
im not sure what thinking effort it is though

a1c4p0ne: I just use the free points to ask o3 dumb questions

a1c4p0ne: Medium for sure

.histic: oh rip, i have medium effort on chatgpt anyway ig

.wolfnacht: <@505313122802728972> <@590577270926868480> Veo2

.histic: o3 is also available on lmsys too.
it's probably medium effort, but medium effort o3 scores better than o4-mini-high on LiveBench

okbut: o4-mini already hosting Agent mode on Copilot <:monkaS:819327694813528161>

.histic: cursor has o4-mini and o3 for free too

.histic: idk if copilot if its free.

.wolfnacht: <@269678268670672896>
https://gizmodo.com/u-s-house-panel-says-chinas-deepseek-ai-is-a-profound-threat-to-national-security-2000590343

Also, https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1k12i6l/trump_administration_reportedly_considers_a_us/

a1c4p0ne: Just use o3 medium

a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/danhendrycks/status/1912631614758351264?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg

joaoluz19: Impressive

okbut: I'm not convinced yet that o3/o4-mini are worth the $20 with what we got for free

brain4brain: Physic Gary Marcus like my post 💀

brain4brain: A very bad sign

.histic: Sabine 😕

.histic: wait, your tweet barely has any views nor likes yet Sabine hearted it? damn, she really in the rabbit hole.

thedon7075: considering the hype, o3 is a disappointment

brain4brain: Indeed it is

.wolfnacht: AI doomers would say it's disappointing and irl doomers would say it's impressive since they want robo takeover one day...even doomers have sides

brain4brain: Yes

thedon7075: pro 2.5 killed the o3 hype

metaldragon01: Yall crazy lol

ailoveyoom: It's always fun to see how differently people vibe/regard new models lol

thedon7075: openai is beginning to fall behind deepmind

.wolfnacht: Current transformer architecture was bound to hit a wall somewhere, i hope they fix the context retention till 1M and the ability to grasp spacial awareness in that mean time. Still its alot useful for everyday cases and will be.

metaldragon01: Theres no wall

thedon7075:

.histic: what's ur vibe?

metaldragon01: I'm not sure how it's not blatantly obvious

brain4brain: Sam slander will not be tolerated

ailoveyoom: I'm not smart enough to use it 'properly' tbh, I just think the reasoning with images thing is cool. That alone opens up new use cases no model could really do before.

.histic: exactly, o3 shows that that there's more to gain. if you look through the hype, clearly things are still improving notably.
i bet Google and OpenAI will make big gains by the end of the year.

metaldragon01: We've made crazy gains in 4 months

darkstar0818: In 4 months we went from models which could fairly reliably create a function without major issues, to writing full games 1 shot.


spicy.lemonade: gpt6 will be an internal model

zoermena: I say it since we are transitioning from releasing just pure singular models to reasoner ones then instead of seeing oX > o4 they’ll just be shipped as GPTX

.histic: also, don't forgot o3 technically took 4 months of optimization to even be released <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
it isn't as quick as you think.

.histic: be sure, maybe internally.

zoermena: 2026 Q1 latest

spicy.lemonade: theyl use gpt 6 for r&d

spicy.lemonade: and drop 2026

zoermena: The rumors of the models already being used in R&D rn

zoermena: Gives confidence

spicy.lemonade: yes almost certainly

spicy.lemonade: but not as much as they could

.histic: i wonder what model they're using

spicy.lemonade: more like researchers asking it to write code for them

spicy.lemonade: to speed up

spicy.lemonade: an agentic framework would be much better

spicy.lemonade: researcher has idea, and tells agent to figure it out

spicy.lemonade: and implement and test

spicy.lemonade: give results

spicy.lemonade: then implement in full model

spicy.lemonade: then by 2027 it wont be the researchers who have the idea

spicy.lemonade: but the AI

.histic: OpenAI employees make no sense.
this tweet was like a week before they released o3 and o4-mini to the public..
you'd think they would use those models or even better models internally.
https://x.com/itsclivetime/status/1911852654214648019

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: deleted user whoever you are

himekokatagiri: you were a real one

.histic: how long have you been interested in AI..

himekokatagiri: DALL-E 2 reveal

.histic: confused.. isn't those discord messages from 2020

.histic: you were interested in it back then?

himekokatagiri: No that's from my discord server

.histic: wait, are these just searched?

himekokatagiri:

himekokatagiri: which idk random anime pub

zoermena: I expect faster development with AI in R&D and the completion of the new data centers so perhaps OOM improvements happen faster than we think

spicy.lemonade: same. started my journey 2020

zoermena: Yet goal posts shift

.histic: idek know when i got interested in AI

.histic: i do remember doing coomer shit with OpenAI playground w/ GPT-3

spicy.lemonade: data center growht might be linear

spicy.lemonade: until we get robotics boom


ldj: Hmm I wonder what is defined as “religious thinking” here, and whether or not just the average self proclaimed Christian would qualify

.wolfnacht: sneak in an AI art in middle of the comments.

ldj: Deploy some bots on Twitter with “jacksepticeye fan page” in their bio, and have them write a bunch of tweets like “MrBeast is against human workers because he’s using CGI in his productions instead of hiring dozens of people to do practical effects and stage making manually”

ldj: “This shows he’s in support of computers being superior to humans and it’s disgusting”

ldj: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

zonchao: funny how now we can tell if it's real art if it's kinda mid

zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/jvzmina/status/1906729742369251336?

drewsni: I might have a project for today hmm….

futurist_wizard: Shouldn't be surprised by this

hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-its-just-so-ass-gif-9601650601918474559

hey1_1hey: Unironically AI art looks better

futurist_wizard: The surprising thing would be if someone was openly supportive of AI

hey1_1hey: Honestly true, If I heard someone like pewdiepie, markapliar, mr. beast etc etc (the faces of youtube pretty much) I would be insanly supprised

futurist_wizard: If only people realised when they made fun of their grandparents for not trusting or disliking social media and phones, they would become exactly like them when the next generational technology arrives

spicy.lemonade:

spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040>

hey1_1hey: True, luckily prejudice against new technology faded with time. No one is going to be like "Grr I hate AI 2 generations from now" like seriously no one because they will have grown up with it

wellmeaningalien: coldfusion uses native image gen in his latest vid

spicy.lemonade: This is very on the mark

spicy.lemonade: They even predicted the 10 min thing

zonchao: only the roach king

zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/asmon-asmongold-asmon-gold-streamer-gif-14367015105928358791

spicy.lemonade: They’re a researcher at openAI

ldj: I’ve seen it already 👍

spicy.lemonade: Oh lol

.wolfnacht: she ruined it.

ldj: It’s like 2 years old btw lol
(But thanks for the thought anyways)

zonchao: didn't he quit

.wolfnacht: but won't be available for public until 2027-28.

spicy.lemonade: Idk

futurist_wizard: Didn't he describe the new gpt image gen as 'scary' and 'things are going to get a lot worse'

.wolfnacht: it's 1 april and where tf is Illama4

futurist_wizard: Sounds like standard normie opinions to me

_cloudost: Does this guy take showers?

.wolfnacht: he lost his sanity last time he decided to give his opinion, when he got attacked by palestintards

literallyvarane: Dead serious answer imo is that they realized they were <R1 m/V3 or whatever and started scratch again.

zoermena: I don’t, for some reason I woke up and now I’m struggling to stay awake.

.wolfnacht: ig it's delayed till two more months i guess...he literally had half of the globe's data...still can't come up with something.

_cloudost: You shouldn't call a group of people by racial slurs, it's primitive

spicy.lemonade: I expect sora2 by the end of this year and it should be reaching 10 to maybe even 20 minutes of video and much more coherent than veo 2


spicy.lemonade: what are we talking about then?

czdct: I'm talking about the general trend where AI tech gets overhyped

czdct: people larping about agi this asi that

spicy.lemonade: this hasnt happened

spacetimetsunami: Have you….seen… the insane progress

spicy.lemonade: till 2023-4

spicy.lemonade: lmao

spicy.lemonade: cite what other time this happened

czdct: this [insert model] will change [insert field] forever!!!

shirethedreamer: you keep using larping and im not sure you know what that word means

spicy.lemonade: NO ONE HAS SAID THIS before 2024

czdct: 6 months later still nothing happens

czdct: it's a trend

czdct: but whenever someone mentions this people go crazy

spicy.lemonade: gpt did change the world tho

spicy.lemonade: factually

spicy.lemonade: lmao

czdct: maybe yours

czdct: not in my field of work

spicy.lemonade: no

spicy.lemonade: it did

czdct: nor in anyone's around me

spicy.lemonade: look where the money is going

spicy.lemonade: investment, usage

spicy.lemonade: amount of data generated

spicy.lemonade: internet usage

spicy.lemonade: clusters

shirethedreamer: if by "nothing" you mean more and more complicated code being written by ai than was predicted for that time then yeah nothing happened

spacetimetsunami: Yeah. We’re now in an arms race to AGI - that’s what they’re literally fucking calling it

czdct: if your job requires a more than a bachelors degree I doubt that gpt will help you besides with writing emails

spicy.lemonade: gpt changed trajectory of technology

czdct: and even that it isn't really good at since people can instantly tell when something is written with ai

spacetimetsunami: If someone tries for two seconds to make something written and doesn’t want it to be obviously AI, nobody would know

spicy.lemonade: which is?

czdct: the whole notion ilya has that an LLM can reach agi is just utter nonsense

spicy.lemonade: based on what

czdct: literally creating hype to get funds for his company

czdct: same thing happened with murati

spacetimetsunami: And those funds are gonna go to…not making AGI?

spicy.lemonade: youre making claims and youre not supporting them


futurist_wizard: Statistically people with an education make way more than people without

futurist_wizard: Simple as

jonvi_1: Read the thread lol

_3sphere: It would have to be one of those extreme outlier HS dropouts

jonvi_1: (I would say his perspective is quite SWE minded)

brain4brain: Survivor ship bias

zonchao: no shit

alejandrozarzuelo: yeah thats probably why the math community seems much more open than the physics community

to be a mathematician is being lowkey obsessed with math as an abstract concept

so if somehting can make more math per mathing, thats great

although some people are also very anti AI here, probably the ones who came expecting 6 figure salaries

maintcrew: who tf drops out of highschool bruh

anathemaofmankind: Are you in college?

anathemaofmankind: Drop out if you're so confident

jonvi_1: If you get a job or a business going during HS

futurist_wizard: They always bring out stupid fucking examples like bill gates who dropped out of HARVARD and was so busy with building a company that he had no time for school

spicy.lemonade: Interesting. Though not any Hs
Dropout. Got int y combinator the year he dropped
Out

_3sphere: I got into STEM via obsession

zonchao: yes

jonvi_1: Why are you being aggressive? I’ve not made a single generalized assertion

spicy.lemonade: Dropout out at this time would
Be the worse decision

spicy.lemonade: Lol

anathemaofmankind: If that wasn't your intention then I concede

spicy.lemonade: In the o3 era

futurist_wizard:

zonchao: how old are you

anathemaofmankind: Dark souls 3 in ghibli

zonchao: like what do you gain from dropping out

futurist_wizard: Not in Ghibli i just asked a standard anime style

jonvi_1: Cool what I did say though is I can agree on a perspective of uni being quite relaxed for SWE and that something more apprenticeship like / ”work” like could be better use of one’s time

maintcrew: confidence and a "now or never" mindset ig

spicy.lemonade: Midjourney should just merge with claud

spicy.lemonade: Lol

spicy.lemonade: That's the only way

jonvi_1: Coursework can be at times a bit removed from the real world, there’s a reason companies have boot camps and stuff for graduates

maintcrew: u know midjourney is doing some hardware stuff

zonchao: you can have that while going to school/just not going and doing the minimum... exams should be easy enough if you are considering dropping out to pursue stuff

maintcrew: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>

anathemaofmankind: I wonder how ER characters will look in different styles

spicy.lemonade: What could it possibly be

spicy.lemonade: But their image business is over

spicy.lemonade: They need an llm bade

spicy.lemonade: Base