brain4brain: Nah, level 4
brain4brain: Since Pro current plan is already unlimited usage for man cases
brain4brain: I don’t know what it will be, but for the 20,000$, if it’s like it’s like deep research and takes a long time and assuming 1 hour per task for 1 month, then it needs to be 20x better than current model to justify price

I don’t know how to calculate for unlimited usage
return_to_monke1_33974: i bet Elon is crying rn 😭
okbut: AGI will reprogram itself to be incredibly efficient
brain4brain: ∞1
spicy.lemonade: we need to make systems more efficient smh
spicy.lemonade: about enough to power dim light bulb
spicy.lemonade: human brain runs on 20 watts
anathemaofmankind: It's the level 5 ai
anathemaofmankind: Like make an entire game in one shot
anathemaofmankind: It's going to be an agent that can plan for hours
brain4brain: You will see one soon
spicy.lemonade: no sign of exponential jump
spicy.lemonade: simple bench has only been linear
brain4brain: Simple-bench 85% EOY
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini plays pokemon when
spicy.lemonade: simplebench 61.5 eoy
sieventer: It's a bad test.
sieventer: Since people always say it and I'm part of "people"; I must to say it
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: people always say this is a bad tets but i like it
thedon7075: https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735
rayanquitplayin: lol
sieventer: ~(˘▾˘~)
sieventer: agi
spicy.lemonade: it always mixes long and short
spicy.lemonade: bruh
sieventer: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1057701811538120824/1362342599674826925/image0.jpg?ex=68020bea&is=6800ba6a&hm=1903b7980ca1205b6a4b105c0fbec015e636d8a60b7045261ebc56174e8fcf74&
mantegh5061: commies can't build LLMs
rayanquitplayin: The Nordic Model is interesting
spicy.lemonade:
rayanquitplayin: Heck yea
popsiclejohnithan: More than likely it will be something completely new and far more efficient that A.I. came up with.
rayanquitplayin: If anything socialism would work in theory
rayanquitplayin: Lol, I don’t have strong feelings for 1 system or the other
popsiclejohnithan: Elon will be disowning them soon.
popsiclejohnithan: I asked Grok this and they said Socialism.
rayanquitplayin: What economic systems do you guys think will thrive in an AI world?
fractalcomputer: I know I like to glaze Grothendieck here, but I'd still rank him as *the* mathematician par excellence; even the brightest of the garden-variety geniuses do not just shit out 500-page-long musings on some random idea that they had and that happens to revolutionise the field for years to come.


spicy.lemonade: Investing in nvidia,
OpenAI becoming a leader, high quality ai art within 3 years, more
manmarshall_92172: Why were u bullish on meta lol
sarik0497: <:sad_cat:873457028981481473> I still got a lot of studying to do
fractalcomputer: Tsk tsk.
spicy.lemonade: Yes
fractalcomputer: The only *good* Danish philosopher and you haven't read him?
spicy.lemonade: Meta
manmarshall_92172: facebook?
sarik0497: Unfortunately not, which is honestly a dishonor to my nation given his great works.
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: Even my investing predictions
fractalcomputer: Such as?
spicy.lemonade: Very bullish
spicy.lemonade: So far all of my ai predictions have been correct
fractalcomputer: Sarik, have you read Kierkegaard?
spicy.lemonade: But I said few years
spicy.lemonade: Within several decades
spicy.lemonade: lol he was arguing ai art would
Never get to human level
spicy.lemonade:
sarik0497: Mah dude
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/gang-signs-gif-23644682
manmarshall_92172: I have been loyal since a little before GPT-3's release
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
spicy.lemonade: Was there since the gpt 2 days
spicy.lemonade: I never switched up on openAI
spicy.lemonade:
precariousworlds.: A lot of crazy things are going on
precariousworlds.: I should look more into it
precariousworlds.: i've been to Zimbabwe a lot, it is de facto a chinese colony
There are gigantic Chinese compounds across the country that act as mini-chinese cities. Only chinese workers speaking chinese. Most people work for them
memlaswaif: why take over countries for no reason
memlaswaif: agi will be their main resource they could control everything anyways
precariousworlds.: it is fueled by massive operations in africa
precariousworlds.: how do you think china is building such an insane amount of industry
precariousworlds.: resources
memlaswaif: why though
precariousworlds.: Source: I partly live in Africa
precariousworlds.: it would just be formalised
precariousworlds.: Already happening
precariousworlds.: My guess is US takes southern and east Africa, as well as the west coast. China takes north and central Africa
memlaswaif: why gobble up those countries


zonchao: 🐶
futurist_wizard: Cute dawggie
zonchao: https://x.com/farzyness/status/1917333264915628308?
trojan09205: Veo 2 animating my dog lol
otub: they can validate any changes they make in shadow mode and collect gbs of new video data all the time
otub: tesla already has the data flywheel
zonchao: https://x.com/iScienceLuvr/status/1917362333984383220? he knows
zonchao: probably just adding lidar to their cars
zonchao: lol
trojan09205: I felt kind of lame paying 2 cents to ask for movie recommendations
trojan09205: So what use cases is o4-mini worth the cost for
777agical: https://x.com/gurgavin/status/1917367274287083983
trey6033: Potentially big
777agical: https://x.com/Waymo/status/1917353329547465210
maintcrew: komoro the transition demon will not get me
hikukomoru: Your balls
hikukomoru: My scissors
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/snip-scissor-anime-mysterious-girlfriend-x-gif-15454612
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-jumping-dancing-meme-night-club-gif-26334109
futurist_wizard: Man i hate gen z
futurist_wizard: A little too forward and slightly rapey but rizz none the less
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207
futurist_wizard: Crazy rizz
maintcrew: give you one too <@750270494615404544>
maintcrew: ill give you one beforehand
futurist_wizard: Parents did it fine?
hikukomoru: In 10-15 years humans are going to be born in labs
No need to have babies anymore
zonchao: 20s kinda early to have kids tho
futurist_wizard: Legacy is a false vessel of immortality
maintcrew: bc they are hella cute and can inherit my legacy
zonchao: both
zonchao: <:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
hikukomoru: Why do people have kids
Just get a pet or smth
futurist_wizard: The most cringe worthy thing man has ever laid eyes upon is right wing people complaining about immigration while having no kids, mothafucka its you're fault!
maintcrew: also i was talking about all out war where the line between civilizans and soldiers is blurred
maintcrew: if you don't find little kids cute and lovely you're so ngmi
zonchao: <:Lovecraft:1136265389890879600>
futurist_wizard: How many kids do you got?
zonchao: L take
777agical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ-RZ0dKO8o


thedon7075: gemini 2.5 ultra coming. coding focused model
metaldragon01: Haven't seen a CEO with better judgment in the space.
metaldragon01: Sama knows what he's doing
brain4brain: OpenAI should never merge o-series and gpt-series to be GPT-5, if they spent all their effort in reasoning model, we would have o4 by now, and it will be clear o5 will be AGI
metaldragon01: But checking api they haven't lost much. People just using deepseek and gemini in addition to claude usage
metaldragon01: Anthropic is the one in trouble atm
spicy.lemonade: so likeley google with a model as big as o3 would be much better
metaldragon01: Yeap
spicy.lemonade: well gemini is much cheaper
metaldragon01: Bruh they ain't sports teams. We all win either way
brain4brain:
brain4brain: Trust OpenAI. GPT-5 shall silence all doubters
metaldragon01: The grok with no api to verify
metaldragon01: Grok with cons 64....which no one uses
metaldragon01: I know what a training set Is lol.

Either way general o3 and 2.5 roughly equal.

They will jump between certain benchmarks but you shouldn't expect it to be much better than 2.5
brain4brain: If we consider GPQA score, then grok-3-reasoning is also o3 level
metaldragon01: Who do you think is opensourcing models?

It's mainly china
brain4brain: O1-pro (not fine-tuned) got 50%, training set is public it is meant to be trained on, ARC-AGI falls on R1 level which also didn’t train on public set
bob082957: After China erased 1 T open source is dead
metaldragon01: I love openai as much as the next guy but no need to understate things
metaldragon01: Arc agi openai trained on the training set 1st. Gemini clearly didn't.

Gqpa scores are o3 level
brain4brain: It’s basically o3-mini level, but that it’s super good at math
brain4brain: It’s not basically o3 level, frontiermath score not out, ARC-AGI performed worst than o3, couldn’t solve some problem o3-mini and r1 solved
metaldragon01: It won't. 2.5 is basically o3 level
brain4brain: Yeah it's a really cool capabilities
retrerox: Ofc the image was sliglty differente but i'm sure people in genral wont pay enough attention to those details
retrerox: Like i grabbed some party picture on google and asked chat gpt to add another person to the image and he did it
retrerox: or even give a photo and replace 1 person or just add more people with it
retrerox: I mean, i'm suprised that you can even be vague, give images and art styles images as example
brain4brain: Made the whole internet into Ghibli
brain4brain: No, thats GPT-4o, it’s been teased for a year but they RLHF and just release it a few days ago
brain4brain: With AI, everybody will have their own team of PhD level doctor 24/7
retrerox: Wasnt the 4.5 the current image gen? Whith the boom of ghibli meme? i'm kinda fresh on this
brain4brain: GPT-4o imagen blowing Gemini output will look like child’s play with GPT-5
brain4brain: They won’t let another GPT-4.5 disappointment happen
brain4brain: GPT-5 will blow 2.5 pro on a proportionate like how o3 blow Gemini-2
retrerox: Major problem with current medicine is there is more sick people or people who think they are sick that doctors
spicy.lemonade: like they did with gemini native image gen
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 should blow away 2.5 pro
spicy.lemonade: if we assume openAI is always ahead


retrerox: logo
retrerox: i ahave a quite avanced
futurist_wizard: Thats what its for
wellmeaningalien: Claude 3.7 (Anthropic): Following the success of the Claude 3 series, a potential Claude 3.7 is anticipated.[2] It's expected to feature advanced reasoning capabilities and possibly a novel "Thinking Model" architecture.[2] [1, 4] Some sources mention a recent release of Claude 3.7 Sonnet as a "hybrid reasoning model".

    Grok 3 (xAI): Elon Musk's xAI is expected to release Grok 3, potentially building on Grok 2's performance. Grok models are noted for real-time data access via X integration and reasoning capabilities.

    DeepSeek R1 / V3 (DeepSeek AI): This open-weight model has garnered attention for its strong performance, particularly in reasoning, potentially rivaling closed-source models like OpenAI's o1 at a lower cost. DeepSeek also released DeepSeekCoderV2, strong in coding tasks.

    Llama Series (Meta): Meta is expected to continue developing its open-source Llama models. Llama 3.3 was recently released, and Llama 4 is anticipated, potentially rivaling GPT-5 level capabilities and further pushing open-weight model adoption.

    Mistral Large 2 (Mistral AI): This European company is also a key player, with Mistral Large 2 being a significant release. [15]"
wellmeaningalien: gemini 2.5 pro lol
"Leading Contenders & Next Generation Models:

    GPT-4.5 / GPT-5 (OpenAI): There's considerable buzz around the next major iteration from OpenAI.[1] Sources mention both GPT-4.5 and GPT-5 as potential upcoming releases. GPT-4.5 is expected to focus on unifying different AI capabilities (like language and reasoning from OpenAI's "o-series" models) into a single system and improving multimodality (handling text, images, speech, potentially video).[2] [1, 4, 14, 15] Some sources suggest GPT-5 class models are expected in 2025, representing a potential "significant leap forward" with improved accuracy and reasoning.
    Gemini 2.0 / 2.5 (Google DeepMind): Google continues to advance its Gemini family. Gemini 2.0 models (including Flash, Flash-Lite, Pro Experimental) have been released or previewed. [2] More recently, Gemini 2.5 Pro Experimental was introduced as Google's "most intelligent AI model," designed as a "thinking model" with enhanced reasoning capabilities, particularly strong in complex tasks, math, science, and coding. [13, 14] It leads on several benchmarks and features a large context window. [13, 14] Further iterations focusing on multimodal interaction and agentic capabilities are expected.
futurist_wizard: If you have thr advanced version
futurist_wizard: Probably not
retrerox: <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
retrerox: Would it cost something to my company?
st.sioux: you have to click start reasearch
retrerox: i have a button that says start research
retrerox: xd
retrerox: or idk
retrerox: about what is the best ai
retrerox: same question
retrerox:
metaldragon01: Click 2.5 pro then click deep research in the chat tab...
wellmeaningalien: actually im gonna see what base 2.5 pro says
wellmeaningalien: see if it can sift thru the data
wellmeaningalien: yeah
wellmeaningalien: see if it actuall has a grasp of whats goin on
darkstar0818: my guess is we gotta wait a bit
retrerox: want me to do the same qeustion again?
wellmeaningalien: ok use the other question too i still wanna like benchmark it a little
wellmeaningalien: lol
retrerox: i didnt changed b4
darkstar0818: it doesn't yet report new in gemini app for deepresearch u sure its already rolled out
retrerox: ye
wellmeaningalien: this is 2.0 flash right?
wellmeaningalien: cause
retrerox: y
wellmeaningalien: man you almost had us with that 2.0 flash fakeout this one better be worth it
wellmeaningalien: so this is actual deep research
wellmeaningalien: cooool
retrerox:
wellmeaningalien: look like this irl btw ↑
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/cell-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-cell-games-arrive-gif-12626123329263234447
wellmeaningalien: come at me man
wellmeaningalien: i ought to teach some sense into that boy
wellmeaningalien: mr bourgeois let us get a taste


hey1_1hey: Clearly not enough autism for you then
hikukomoru: You're fucked
hikukomoru: That never ever happened to me
spicy.lemonade: I CANT WAIT 3 MINS
hey1_1hey: Think you're talking in your head then stop then say it outloud
hey1_1hey: Yanno just happnes innit
spicy.lemonade: greg brockman means revolutionary
abundantliving_: 😂
abundantliving_: O3 minutes remaining
hikukomoru: Tf
hey1_1hey: Thats something I would do bro
.0xunkn0wn: https://tenor.com/view/centurion-cat-gif-15758099683439223679
futurist_wizard:
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
spicy.lemonade: but greg brockman is bigger
hikukomoru: Are you having a crash out
spicy.lemonade: hell probably be there
.0xunkn0wn: no altman? 😭
.0xunkn0wn: damn
futurist_wizard: I CWNANT WAIHIT TO SEE TA NKEW BWENCHMWERKS 🤓🤓🤓🤓
spicy.lemonade: agi is talking to me guys
.0xunkn0wn: idk i had to 😭
spicy.lemonade: me?
.0xunkn0wn: 5 minutes until skibidi jockey
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-4079785775268000209
hey1_1hey: Are you a brain rot enjoyer these days?
hikukomoru: AGI announced and you just missed it bruh
futurist_wizard: 5 minutes until chicken jockey
hey1_1hey: Holy moly I thought I missed it
hikukomoru: Don't get your hopes up
abundantliving_: 5 minutes
.0xunkn0wn:
futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey!
.0xunkn0wn: LETS GO
.0xunkn0wn: LETS GIO
hikukomoru:
hikukomoru: I still can't believe "Chicken Jockey" were the last words said on 4chan before it died lol
spicy.lemonade: 4chan taken down before agi had the xchance to witness it<:redemption:1136265386984222771>
professorheaven: The ARC test founder considers o3 to be a prototype AGI, he said that on a podcast discussing ARC-2
abundantliving_: its live - just not started


alejandrozarzuelo: this is because the x axis is crazy compressed
spicy.lemonade: This is kind of crazy though. Soon itl be straight up
spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: as long as it is another AI model
spicy.lemonade: Not even a co author?
spicy.lemonade: No help is crazy
alejandrozarzuelo: in any field
alejandrozarzuelo: any human can do that, so it should be able to do all of those
alejandrozarzuelo: solve a millenium prize or publish a high impact paper on its own no help
alejandrozarzuelo: thats my AGI line tbh
spicy.lemonade: Or why a sort of millennium prize level benchmark doesn’t exist yet
alejandrozarzuelo: i define as soon as less than a quarter tops
spicy.lemonade: That’s why we aren’t benchmarking if it can solve all of physics yet
alejandrozarzuelo: it depends on what you define as soon
spicy.lemonade: We only benchmark stuff we feel is coming soon
spicy.lemonade: Almost by principle
spicy.lemonade: Everytime a new benchmark drops its likeley to get saturated soon
spicy.lemonade:
alejandrozarzuelo: /hj
alejandrozarzuelo: if benchmarks arent saturated in less than 2 months im calling this oficially an AI autumn
spicy.lemonade: Likeley arc2 will be saturated in no time
spicy.lemonade: Why would they make a benchmark that’d get saturated day 1
spicy.lemonade: Arc 2 just came out
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah but still arc2 is on single digits
spicy.lemonade: Sota
alejandrozarzuelo: dots?
spicy.lemonade: 2-3
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: We’ve gotten 2 sota models per month
alejandrozarzuelo: ahhhhhhhh
alejandrozarzuelo: why is progress so slow
spicy.lemonade: but they gave us something we can used
spicy.lemonade: and got 90+ score
spicy.lemonade: like o3
spicy.lemonade: deepmind couldve pushed it max
spicy.lemonade: this isnt o3 level
alejandrozarzuelo: sad
alejandrozarzuelo: AGI is not close apparently
zonchao: oo
metaldragon01:


futurist_wizard: You're*
wellmeaningalien: Nerd
wellmeaningalien: google cooked i wonder how it compares to o3 tho
fractalcomputer: What are mine?
futurist_wizard: Im a happy person
hey1_1hey: I was gonna make a joke about me being a fleshlight but I'll bite my tounge
ailoveyoom: OnlyFeet
wellmeaningalien: on the livebench
oooooooooog: my pfp is my leg in minecraft
hikukomoru: Your always a bitch
wellmeaningalien: wheres new deepseek v3
futurist_wizard: I find them disgusting tbh
wellmeaningalien: yo is livebench dead for anyonee else
hikukomoru: When aren't you
futurist_wizard: Never used one
.wolfnacht: fake, i spend most of my time on /x/
ailoveyoom: Spare your poor fleshlight
st.sioux: reminds me of fractalcomputer
hikukomoru: You talk like someone who spends their entire life on /r9k/ and /pol/
That's why
futurist_wizard: Feeling aggressive today
.wolfnacht: Well, i've got the wizard in me
hey1_1hey: Tried cellary the other day, texture was banging. Sadly it tasted like battery acid and MDMA
hikukomoru: I base my vibes off profile pictures
You give me mysterious vibes
a1c4p0ne: It will be forgotten
a1c4p0ne: So no one using or testing 2.5 pro
hey1_1hey: I've branched out quite a bit ngl
ailoveyoom: Minthara calling Gale wizard (derogatory) 🥵
futurist_wizard: All of you are virgins
hikukomoru: Tuna is my autism food
hikukomoru: Wizard means a 30+ year old virgin
hey1_1hey: I eat my autism food thank you very much
oooooooooog: 4o image is novel, 2.5 pro isn't
.wolfnacht: anyways, to anyone who's 30 now....
hikukomoru: I'm still fatter than you somehow despite both being shorter than you and not eating anything
hey1_1hey: 4o image is the goat
a1c4p0ne: Is it not good?
ailoveyoom: Is wizard like a slur in this case?
a1c4p0ne: Why is 2.5 pro not as hyped as 4o image?
hey1_1hey: Jared, 23, software engineer
.wolfnacht: LMAO, but how


gamerbath: but we may get AGI this year still. idk what calender ur using, but for me we ain't even halfway through the year
aero447: Fixed.
gamerbath: AGI 2025 or 2026. I think it's a 50/50
aero447:
brain4brain: So 2025 is real
brain4brain: Which mean the second one is more accurate <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
brain4brain: My timeline went from 2027 to 2025
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/next-goldberg-youre-next-wwe-world-wrestling-entertainment-gif-17791133
brain4brain: AGI 2025
aero447: AGI 2026ers.
gamerbath: 2024 twice?
brain4brain: And the first time live on earth will expand to the digital realm fully and towards other solar system
brain4brain: It’s the first time live on earth will have an intelligence explosion
brain4brain: Cambrian explosion
rayanquitplayin: What y’all think, renaissance or Industrial Revolution?
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/tomas-shelby-gif-9632566097741714411
_cloudost: <@322961583154397184>
brain4brain: Send article link
brain4brain: I want to see AGI this year
spicy.lemonade: This is so good
brain4brain: No.
_cloudost: ( Humans )
_cloudost: AI is currently in protozoa level, needs to evolve more, once it develops arms and hands it will impress the world
_cloudost:
brain4brain: Its so over and we're so back at the same time'
brain4brain: then why the hell is Demis still 10 years
brain4brain: Holy shit
brain4brain: its so over
brain4brain: even with mini map
supervisor194: im down
spicy.lemonade: hype
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: We are at Q* again
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: GIYS
a1c4p0ne:
.wolfnacht:
a1c4p0ne: it has a pathfinder if it gets stuck
.wolfnacht: yep, gaymini is stuck in safari zone from past half an hr, it's just circling around...
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/yaburnt-joker-burn-burnward-calltheburnunit-gif-5274995


spicy.lemonade: not stop
metaldragon01: Why do people bury their heads in the sand
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: in USA there is
metaldragon01: There's nothing that will stop AI progress
spicy.lemonade: forcing openAI to saftey max
spicy.lemonade: a pro regulation dem will win 2028
spicy.lemonade: no gov official will be anti
spicy.lemonade: yeah
spicy.lemonade: yes
joaoluz19: Or defend UBI, like Obama
st.sioux: pro regulation
spicy.lemonade: more super saftey
spicy.lemonade: well not anti
spicy.lemonade: anti AI candidate will likely win 2028 election anyway bc of normie job loss
fractalcomputer: Why do you feel like debating these things among yourselves?
spicy.lemonade: lol
fractalcomputer: Which was why Neumann urged the US to nuke the USSR while they still could.
st.sioux: and final
zonchao: yes
st.sioux: but nukes are only destructive
metaldragon01: Ai is everything
joaoluz19: I don't like the decel idea, but thinking from a practical point of view if you ban giant datacenters you would stop all major efforts in AI
zonchao: there is no financial upside in maintaining and making more nukes
metaldragon01: Nukes are only weapons
spicy.lemonade: we have MAD
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: same arguement for nukes
spicy.lemonade: eh
spicy.lemonade: thats why we have MAD
metaldragon01: There's no. Middle ground
spicy.lemonade: theres no financial upside to world ending yes
metaldragon01: You harness AI or you lose to those who do
spicy.lemonade: not because of small bad things
zonchao: there was no financial upside
spicy.lemonade: ending
spicy.lemonade: cataclysmic
spicy.lemonade: because of direct
spicy.lemonade: we slowed down nukes
metaldragon01: AI is a part of the tools of war and will also improve for national security


fractalcomputer: No.
brain4brain: Ok, a few things happened this year.
brain4brain: Also this totally not make up real graph, says AGI this year, fr fr, no cap

This graph is not bias at all which means I’m correct
fractalcomputer: Nothing ever happens.
brain4brain: It will be re-evaluated on May 15th
brain4brain: “A few things will happen this year.”

— Brain4Brain.
_cloudost:
fractalcomputer: "Watch as nothing happens."

– Yours truly.
brain4brain:
playstation.6: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-destroynectar-speed-sea-china-gif-14484393121405379968
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BF%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%81-%D1%83%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-gif-1626328442317885176
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: https://youtu.be/D0I1RB33adM?si=pNFfQ-sjkGpeoWmF
trent_k: Wasn't necessary for o4 mini but was necessary for o3
trent_k: They do. I did it
abundantliving_: https://x.com/wavefnx/status/1913207954351808742
.wolfnacht: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kAIf0qPA3Q
rayanquitplayin: AI itself is contributing to a leap in human advancement
aero447: Bait.
aero447:
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/flareon-heat-wave-pok%C3%A9mon-flareon-flareon-shy-flareon-blushing-gif-25797870
.wolfnacht: i just want that heat to warm me up on a cold day.
gamerbath: that could be. Progress could continue incrementally like it has in the past, but I think there will be some leaps
.wolfnacht: maybe more like moving from sparks of AGI to moving towards little heat from tindling fire (*before the fire gets bigger and becomes established fire*)
brain4brain: We can go to Mars, it’s just that after the USSR collapse there are no more incentives
brain4brain: Intelligence is easier to do than physical manipulation
brain4brain: Checkmate, luddites
brain4brain: Your definition and justification is that “people move goalpost” these are the people, they aren’t moving your goalpost, which mean your justification for 2035 is in-valid
brain4brain: 60/40
rayanquitplayin: Do you guys think AGI requires embodiment?
gamerbath: if you would please consult the graph
rayanquitplayin: Our digital capabilities seem to far outweigh our physical capability
rayanquitplayin: Like we’re smart enough to train robots in simulations like Nvidia’s doing but we haven’t physically been to mars idk
rayanquitplayin: I find it insane that we’re training ai on simulated environments but we haven’t colonized the moon or set foot on mars
aero447: Me hauling AGI 2025 and 2026 people into reality.
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/tired-exhausted-dragging-kid-pulling-kid-gif-13568073
aero447: No.
.wolfnacht: maybe but it'll take days for gemini to get surf HM03 at a hidden house in safari zone at this rate


okbut: How are yall feeling about that singularity
alejandrozarzuelo: I'll try
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: Alejandro
wellmeaningalien: Bro hates having a taste of their own medecine
futurist_wizard: Don't get banned again
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: Dayum
wellmeaningalien: Damn
futurist_wizard: Same shit
futurist_wizard: Muted
wellmeaningalien: He was banned?
alejandrozarzuelo: I think it was a great analogy AND a very sexually charged one
futurist_wizard: Hes just been unbanned be nice for a bit
wellmeaningalien: Its a front for not having a personality
hikukomoru: Sorry
I just like being mean to you for no reason
futurist_wizard: U kno
futurist_wizard: And talk a bit
anathemaofmankind: Uncultured
alejandrozarzuelo: So true
futurist_wizard: I need to know them for at least 24 hours
alejandrozarzuelo: Why lol
wellmeaningalien: Die !!
hikukomoru: All of your analogies are awful
alejandrozarzuelo: You need substance first
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/barbie-ryan-gosling-wink-margot-robbie-handsome-gif-7779535681814001194
alejandrozarzuelo: Sex is like frosting

It makes a cake better, but just frosting is not much of a dessert
futurist_wizard: No way
futurist_wizard: Especially not a guy
alejandrozarzuelo: My escapades are actually pretty fun

Again, I really like to meet people I can have a great time no sex included

Then sex is ok, but only as an addendum
futurist_wizard: One night stands i do not find are pleasant
hikukomoru: This time it's not my fault
futurist_wizard: I don't hook up at all
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like that tho
anathemaofmankind: Mommy/daughter so peak
alejandrozarzuelo: I guess it's easy to have sex if you just care about the sex part

Hook-ups can take as little as 15 mins
rayanquitplayin: Lol same, I could’ve never bring someone home
st.sioux: goon chat is back i see
hikukomoru: Wtf
hikukomoru: This is the part where Alejandro starts talking about his grindr escapades


oooooooooog: its ok
hey1_1hey: I've been gaslit
oooooooooog: for fun
hey1_1hey: Fuck
oooooooooog: i was gaslighting you
oooooooooog: i know
hey1_1hey: Opposite side of that, so under your arm
hey1_1hey: Yanno your bicep?
hikukomoru: Isn't that a dinosaur
hey1_1hey: I a healslut what do you expecf
oooooooooog: what is a tricep
hikukomoru: I see all the guys here are subs
Pathetic
hey1_1hey: Like I am not joking, I thought I didn't have triceps until I worked out
a1c4p0ne: So it makes sense why some people have the shit smell when walking by
hey1_1hey: The moment I turned 18 my acne fucked off luckily so now I got nice skin. My triceps are non existant though
zoermena: Oh, it´s because you said tink I got confused.
wellmeaningalien:
oooooooooog: shower after u shit guys, its not hard lol
hikukomoru: ?
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: Just not with heals please, I'll take pain sure but not with heals thank you very much
zoermena: I have a good tricep, I´m not ugly I just have acne, I´m paying for a dermatologist soon.
technocake.: google twink
a1c4p0ne:
zoermena: wdym
hey1_1hey: I got a couple redeeming qualities. The one I get complimented the most on is that I have unreaonsbly wide shoulders
hikukomoru: Do you want me to step on you with my heels too
technocake.: that's not so bad, you could still multiclass in to twink
.histic: mommy
st.sioux: please
zoermena: Everyone wants to pick me up
hikukomoru: I could probably pick you up and crush you like a twig
hey1_1hey: I am 18 at 5'8
.histic:
zoermena: But at least I´m not ugly
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
zoermena: Genetics hate me
zoermena: Im 21
hey1_1hey: Impressive honestly
hikukomoru: Bro how are you the same height as me as a man


alejandrozarzuelo: Buenos aires is great when it's winter in the north
futurist_wizard: I would never go to third world countries, i have paranoid genes
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't need to find my perfect city, if I can move around
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like to be tied to any place
hikukomoru: They have a new and better deep search
For Gemini Advanced
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
futurist_wizard: You are adventurous Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: 50k-500k small

500k-5m medium

5m+ large
alejandrozarzuelo: That's tiny
alejandrozarzuelo: Bruh
hikukomoru: Nicosia has 200k people
That's plenty big
okbut: I can't remember, I could've sworn I used deep search on 2.5 3 weeks ago and it was butt
rayanquitplayin: The market went crazy today
futurist_wizard: I don't even know what perplexity is
hikukomoru: Google killed them
hikukomoru: Perplexity is dead now
alejandrozarzuelo: Until gemini 2.5
okbut: It was a week ago you were in the room everyone saying it's SOTA deepsearch
rayanquitplayin: It prob can, I don’t get why people still pay financial analysts
hikukomoru: Does anyone still use Perplexity
futurist_wizard: My fucking eyes
okbut:
okbut: Just have Perplexity do the work for you
hikukomoru: No
futurist_wizard: Yes
alejandrozarzuelo: No big cities tho

Istanbul and Athens get close to my ideal

Hopefully in the future AI will develop the entire world and there won't be poor places anymore and I can live where I like
rayanquitplayin: Guys should I become a financial analyst?
okbut: I see them flaunting it like a cock pic but no API
futurist_wizard: Red skin and shit
okbut: And is Behemoth even accessible?
futurist_wizard: Well i don't feel it, i know people that get proper sunburns
hikukomoru: Meta is ass
alejandrozarzuelo: I love the sun, to be under a shadow
rayanquitplayin: Maybe at a small level
wolf3404: Yea but Egypt is kind of a shit hole, maybe Cyprus
okbut: Is Meta still pog? I heard they gave LMSys a model fine-tuned for scoreboard performance
hikukomoru: Spanish people don't burn in the sun
alejandrozarzuelo: Everyone burns

Even if you think you don't you do
futurist_wizard: Spanish man burns ay!
rayanquitplayin: Fr, I never wear sunscreen and I never burn


futurist_wizard: i could bench you 27 times for reps
wellmeaningalien: i dont use like any crypto platform cause ion wanna give out my id but i think u can do it on some sites
wellmeaningalien: like im used to bitcoin and shit but oh hell i'll just find a site
wellmeaningalien: hell i'll just find a website where you can just cash out faster
maintcrew: like any coin
maintcrew: wtf do u have then
wellmeaningalien: program thing
hey1_1hey: (Send help)
wellmeaningalien: i'll have to install another wallet then
wellmeaningalien: damn ok
hikukomoru: What the fuck is testosterone going to do to me dude I don't even need it
hey1_1hey: 3 sets of 8 on benchpress (0.1g)
st.sioux: poor kid is getting groomed
futurist_wizard: bruv lifting what
hikukomoru: Doesn't sound like it worked to be honest
maintcrew: shit just go eth is easier to cash out as well
hey1_1hey: I became less autistic after lifitng for a while
hikukomoru: Wtf
hey1_1hey: It actually does to some degree
maintcrew: i am know for my magnimous heart i gave money for whiskey to some indian dude here
hikukomoru: Lifting weights cures autism 👍
wellmeaningalien: so either way win win
wellmeaningalien: then u WOULD want to give me the pizza
maintcrew: ahahha... unless?
maintcrew: tf would i want from you.. unless ur a young manipulable depressed girl?
wellmeaningalien: AIGHT DUDE IM GONNA MAKE A MONERO WALLET REAL SOON
maintcrew: either monero or eth is fine u decide ill go now i got something to do
hey1_1hey: WHAT
st.sioux: saying shit like "lift 250 bro low test bro" doesnt help anybody lol
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: u WILL give me the pizza right or are u just taking advantage of a poor autistic neurodivgergent
hey1_1hey: This guy is giving heavy groomer energy
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: yeah that sounds dope lol
maintcrew: im not home at my laptop tho ill get u a nice pizza in about 7 hours hows that sounds
hey1_1hey: Stop being autistic and get on with it
hey1_1hey: Double the price for the same size is criminal
hikukomoru: There are 5 different conversations happening at the same time
wellmeaningalien: thats what u get for being britpoor


wellmeaningalien: found this book on Ai job displacement at the hypermarket
memlaswaif: IM SORRY<:zzz_catblush:1206129985019191369>
seventales: have i been forgotten to the depths of time
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
otub: riley and seventales
memlaswaif: I got my lore mixed up
memlaswaif: Riley <:cutethink:708400862833410079>
frittata: Was no one there when the deep magic was written <:angrycry:1186012669023621160>
otub: 🦍
futurist_wizard: Do they ignore the body hair and pretend it doesn't exist or do they actually like bodies covered in hair
futurist_wizard: Furries have confused me
hikukomoru: Frittata is dead 🥀
memlaswaif: frittata is the originator of furrydvr
hikukomoru: Are you a furry too
hikukomoru: Humans most of all
frittata: My sweet summer child
alejandrozarzuelo: All social species do
frittata: Lion fucking too
frittata: Anyway oop furries to off topic
hikukomoru: That's what a furry is 🙏
futurist_wizard: I've seen male lions fuck eachother though
frittata: That ain’t no furry it’s just an anthropomorphized cartoon animal <:bruh:1303825143344267305>
hikukomoru: Lions are cats
Just big ones
alejandrozarzuelo: I mean the same way a lion is a cat
hikukomoru: Same thing
hikukomoru: Fennec is fox
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a fennec
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not a fox and it's not queer
hikukomoru: You don't look like a gay fox irl?
spicy.lemonade: I hated elon before it was cool
alejandrozarzuelo: Not real me
frittata: Early adopter
alejandrozarzuelo: I thought that <@505313122802728972> was talking about my new pfp
hikukomoru: It's his pfp
frittata: Pics or it didn’t happen
a1c4p0ne: 4o new update
spicy.lemonade: and replicate my personality
spicy.lemonade: one day ill give all of this to an llm
spicy.lemonade: i might have written every single day
spicy.lemonade: Lmao unhinged


hikukomoru: Yes to earn your trust and then kill you while you least expect
futurist_wizard: I have had the throat one where they put a camera down your throat
technocake.: just for fun
sweetievee__33649: i had 2 cats when i was little and they were lovley they used to cuddle up on my chest in a big ball and purr
ailoveyoom: Would a stray devil curl up and sleep on my lap 😤 <@505313122802728972>
hikukomoru: That means catgirls are evil too
zoermena: Get a colonoscopy
futurist_wizard: It might be ibs
futurist_wizard: I have not been formally diagnosed, i have been tested loads of times, nobody can figure out what i have
ailoveyoom: Lies
hikukomoru: They just can't do that much harm because they are so small and dumb
sweetievee__33649: if you think cats are evil let me introduce you to snakes
hikukomoru: All cats are evil by nature
st.sioux: didnt you have like gerd
sweetievee__33649: are your cats evil or something
futurist_wizard: I don't know what i have
hikukomoru: I would be more worried about my cats killing me than dolls
futurist_wizard: I have
technocake.: I swear by omiprazole for reflux if you haven't tried
futurist_wizard: They make me too awngrey
zoermena: RIP
futurist_wizard: It was probably competitive gwamez, i should not play them
zoermena: Can it be Tuesday already? My bank account is bleeding.
hikukomoru: He's not ok he just pooped his pants
sweetievee__33649: thats why i have full sized mechatrons watching me sleep 😎
ailoveyoom: My bad bro I went too deep 💔
technocake.: oh man ❤ hope you're good
sweetievee__33649: if i had dolls watching me while i was asleep i would feel like they would be plotting to kill me
futurist_wizard: My stomach acids were triggered by unknown nefarious forces today
technocake.: ew i hope not
hikukomoru: My dolls watch me sleep
Makes me feel safe
himekokatagiri:
sweetievee__33649: id be a doll if i could
himekokatagiri: 😭 peripeteia such a good game
himekokatagiri:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-the-rizzler-cool-rizz-flirt-gif-15081277433295719487
sweetievee__33649: they freak me out a little bit 💔
sweetievee__33649: dolls are... they sure are
futurist_wizard: Dolls
ailoveyoom: 😏


spicy.lemonade: just say openAI
spicy.lemonade:
czdct: the "create image" function in chatgpt tends to give you better results since it uses 4o to try and understand what you want, and it also gives you the ability to edit images with just text
_cloudost: Idk if Sora has the same quality
czdct: sora however doesn't have a cd
czdct: how much it is exactly is unknown
czdct: around 20 minutes when ur at your hourly limit
_cloudost: How long is the cool down
czdct: it does have a cooldown on chatgpt though
_cloudost: Ah I see
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
theaiguy69420_89814: 1 month worth of coding done autonomously...
.histic: the button is gone now
.histic: wait wtf
.histic: <:ez:1136267305521774634> i got it on desktop
st.sioux: not on desktop
st.sioux: no, only on mobile
.histic: it's pretty mid
.histic: <@1316552597829586955> https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jqso9g/just_noticed_this_new_thinking_toggle_in_chatgpt/
do you've this too? cuz i got this 2 days ago.
.histic: yes, on sora.com it basically is.
metaldragon01: Absolutely insane productivity
metaldragon01: Ai doing 1 week of work at a time is AGI by any measure
ldj:
ldj: Maybe the most interesting chart in their report here <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
ldj: and their 80% confidence for superhuman coder is <2040 and <2050 and then the last ones are somewhere greater than 2050.
ldj: My Tier 3 HLSI 80% confidence is <2045
ldj: Interesting, their Superhuman coder timelines for 80% confidence seem very similar to my 80% confidence for tier 3 HLSI.
spicy.lemonade: idk
_cloudost: No one told me yet, is the native image generator unlimited for plus users?
.histic: or do they verify through other means.
.histic: how easy is it to make a fake edu email?
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: college ends in may
spicy.lemonade: bruh
metaldragon01: https://x.com/sama/status/1907862982765457603
spacetimetsunami: Spooky
spacetimetsunami: It is so insane that all of this could be said and done by early 2030s with enough acceleration
spacetimetsunami: Very true.
steven_the_frog: So despite billions of chaos agents, only the top few have any meaningful influence
steven_the_frog: Well yeah I guess in some ways we're still competing with the tigers and the aphids, but humans have such a lead that they have no hope of ever meaningfully contributing to anything


spacetimetsunami: And definitions are fluid
spacetimetsunami: It’s as meaningful as the definition
fractalcomputer: You like appealing to reality, but I have no idea what you mean by that; since your earlier definition does not resolve the inconsistencies in our various accounts of reality. This is fundamentally due to the pragmatic nature of human ontology.
spacetimetsunami: But I don’t need to bring up anecdotal experiences to argue with these points
spacetimetsunami: Do by that definition
spacetimetsunami: I flatlined.
fractalcomputer: Then why are you so convinced that reality is a meaningful term?
spacetimetsunami: Because we evolved to survive, not observe reality for what it *is*
st.sioux: so you didnt die
spacetimetsunami: Yes, reality is illusive and inefficiently categorized prescriptions by brains
spacetimetsunami: Brain death didn’t happen
fractalcomputer: Sigh. I'll just make my point very clear then. We have *no* shared understanding of the meaning of "real"; we have *no* shared understanding of the meaning of "existent"; and frankly these are contradictory or just totally unhelpful ideas. Humans are quite eager to claim that a particular object - that they happen to perceive - exists, say, a bird, but are less prone to say that those things - some of which may be disclosed by the scientific method - which they cannot immediately perceive, such as the residual strong nuclear force that constitutes the nuclei of the very atoms of that bird do exist; likewise, we have no consensus on whether certain abstracta, such as the natural numbers or other like systems exist *in fact*, and this problem becomes all the more amplified as we increase the scale of our abstraction; someone might take a far more propitious position on the existence of the natural numbers, however we'd want to define them, but might break away with mathematical Platonism after one introduces far more refined concepts, such as sheaves or topoi; higher categories and set universes and so on.
spacetimetsunami: I just got close
spacetimetsunami: Quantum immortality isn’t true, I’m sorry
st.sioux: but you already died and didn't die according to you
spacetimetsunami: If I was able to do insane shit and not die, then yeah it wouldn’t be real
spacetimetsunami: lol
spacetimetsunami: The reason it holds true is because it’s a good enough interface to where I don’t die.
oooooooooog: your own brain's interface with "reality", and the only reason it holds true is that you trust it. that trust holds no value in terms of definitive proof.
spacetimetsunami: Because it’s real lol
spacetimetsunami: Get this - *reality*
_3sphere: 😭
oooooooooog: where did you get that information from?
_3sphere: lucid dreaming is sandbox mode with no updates
_3sphere: the brain had to get its input from somewhere to form constructs to dream about
oooooooooog: random chance
_3sphere: Dreams based on what
oooooooooog: it's all explainable away by hallucination, imagination, or dreams
oooooooooog: i agree. and since they are no longer thinking, that means they don't have any evidence for being affected by anything
spacetimetsunami: No. But so what if it hasn’t? It has for people I know and there is virtually no plausible mechanism in which they are still experiencing things.
_3sphere: A bunch of trump supporters got much more vocal and a lot of people left over it
oooooooooog: brain death
oooooooooog: i mean has your brain ever stopped functioning completely, which is what death means
_3sphere: 2024 American election
fractalcomputer: Because it rests on a thousand different unstated premises and ill-stated notions.
spacetimetsunami: I nearly bled to death at 12
spacetimetsunami: I have.
spacetimetsunami: Yes.
spacetimetsunami: I have plenty of empirical evidence suggesting there is no afterlife lol
oooooooooog: have you ever died


himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362> hiiii michmach
futurist_wizard: Most people here are basically techno-religious
ailoveyoom: Heat death 😈
futurist_wizard: Maybe fractal would
futurist_wizard: This server is loaded with death denialism, who's gonna say yes to the likelihood of us dying
gamerbath: yes
perish0801: So I’m asking if that’ll happen
perish0801: He’s saying we’ll be immortal with advancements in tech and science
himekokatagiri: I don't like the new eleanor!!! baaaaah
gamerbath: just follow the ways of bryan johnson <:prayge:981798930113249300>
perish0801: Thanks dude
himekokatagiri: you better hope so
st.sioux: nice car bro
perish0801: I don’t wanna die
perish0801: Will we be immortal?
gamerbath: here's a list of all the values of claude's internal neural network
https://huggingface.co/datasets/Anthropic/values-in-the-wild/blob/main/values_frequencies.csv
himekokatagiri: I still don't buy it by 2027
spicy.lemonade: man
spicy.lemonade: incremental
spicy.lemonade: according to ai 2027 paper 2025 will be so mid
aero447: 😐
aero447: Chocolate.
st.sioux: gogole fraud
spicy.lemonade: tf
spicy.lemonade: its too far away
spicy.lemonade: bro i cant wait for google io
gamerbath: stop advertising for air, ur name reminds me about it
himekokatagiri: okay so this week, what's gonna happen
himekokatagiri: no
st.sioux: is gmeini 3 out yet
gamerbath: well your last point is wrong, because other collections of cells are working to fix that
spicy.lemonade: not advertisement😭
aero447: Do not advertise.
realelonmuskx: I’m just a collection of cells, born by accident, chasing dopamine hits, doomed to die.
spicy.lemonade: bro made agi in 90s😭
gamerbath: great episode
https://www.netflix.com/watch/81716298?trackId=268410292
zonchao: he married thiels plant, we will rescue him
okbut: Copacetic with the point
himekokatagiri: as if china isn't calling the shots
himekokatagiri: lol


spicy.lemonade: o3 full prob next week
spicy.lemonade: hype x2
spicy.lemonade: hype
.histic: ah i see
st.sioux: after like 100,000 tokens typing I had like a "ping", letters would take time to appear on the textbox, really weird... and it wouldn't load on my iphone, it would just crash
.histic: oh, it was laggy 4 you?
.histic:
st.sioux: i dont like the background but at least its not like super laggy anymore
metaldragon01: Maybe qwen 3 too
metaldragon01: Veo 2 tomorrow
.histic: AIStudio new UI change
spicy.lemonade: Qwen when
destrucules: I think psychedelics feel closest to like... The intensity you're looking for from a real life NZT. Other nootropics are so mild. They do genuinely enhance cognition. But they also alter it. So be prepared for that
3ds0662: but tbh 5 years everything will change anyways we already have alphafold and things in the works when it comes to proteins peptides dna etc… its only a matter of time
3ds0662: i hope to oneday maybe try them shrooms and all that stuff
3ds0662: you got me there
3ds0662: lsd and um psychodelics ive never tried really
3ds0662: caffeine nicotine gum they all help really i wont knock them for their individual use cases they elicit their supposed effects but not as you imagine eh(me i imagined soo much more crazier after like seeing their reviews, reddit anecdotes, wikipedia stuff then trying it wasnt the same)
3ds0662: alpha gpc, and centrophenoxine the cholinergics
3ds0662: oxi, ani, colour, faso, nefirac
3ds0662: unifiram, sunifiram, tak, piracetam
3ds0662: ampakines yes good they definitely are amazing for cognitive enhancement
3ds0662: yeah ive tried all those modafinil eh lol
3ds0662: shows us his coolest toys then doesnt allow us to play with them
3ds0662: hes a n edgelord cause all he does is edge us
3ds0662: the twink keeps holding out smh
3ds0662: yes this fuck a mini give me the full thing you bastard
3ds0662: same song different rhythm
3ds0662: yeahh i watched full show of both that was such a cool ending it got cancelled smh but contradictory i meant in like the differences in how the successful drug guy approached them
spicy.lemonade: Tf is mini pro
3ds0662: nooooo no o3 full fuck i wanted o3 full
destrucules: At least in terms of cognitive flexibility and creativity, LSD and other 5HT_2A agonists are nootropics. Most other effective nootropics are cholinergics or AMPAkines which are basically just cholinergics with a middleman. The racetams and nicotine are broadly in this category. Xanthines like caffeine have some reported nootropic effects but they're kind of an edge case. Modafinil... Is complicated.
destrucules: Regarding the psychedelics thing it's actually true
st.sioux: ratatouille is my homie
destrucules: Me too man. Me too. Btw the show doesn't contradict the movie (Limitless) - at the end of the movie and in the show, Eddie is a *senator* who *owns* several pharma labs
Besides ALZ-112, NZT-48, and Lucy magic blue shit, there's also the intestinal worms from Futurama, the number that represents the name of God in the movie Pi, the rat (Remy) from Ratatouille (am I wrong tho), Stem from Upgrade (2018), and LSD-25 (real life)
.histic: in my testing, Gemini Deep Research seems on par with OpenAI's Deep Research. <:idk:1136264106937171999>
have you tested them yet?
.histic: it got leaked 1-2 weeks ago o3-mini pro was an internal thing despite Sam not acknowledging they'd release it.. 🤔
3ds0662: the models are still too dumb in my opinion
3ds0662: chatgpt as it is now even at the most expensive plan 200$ still can’t pay itself off
3ds0662: you think o3 deep research will create millionaires?


joaoluz19: That was your fault for talking about the artists
gamerbath: everything is completely find actually, it's just too much padding some places, even with compact layout
hey1_1hey: WHY IS THERE ONLY 4 VIDEOS FOR THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE SCREEN
hikukomoru: GC is crying 💔
hey1_1hey: YOUTUBE FUCKED UP ASWELL
joaoluz19: This is so ugly
hikukomoru: It's hard to read what y'all are saying
joaoluz19: Man how to go back to the old appearance wtf
hey1_1hey: I liked my big server icons
zoermena: Ohhh
hey1_1hey: Thats the part I dislike most
zoermena: Im on my phone
joaoluz19: Just go to Sora and change video to image here
hikukomoru: Restart ur discord app
gamerbath: restart ur discord
hikukomoru: I want the old discord pls
zoermena: Im so confused
zoermena: What happened?
gamerbath: I feel like there's too much padding  in the input box now, but the servers list is much better
gamerbath: okay it's actually not bad
hey1_1hey: Take me back
hey1_1hey: This shit is so ass
hey1_1hey: Innit
zoermena: Oh? How?
gamerbath: oh my god guys why did ya'll make me restart discord 😭
joaoluz19: Made in sora, didn't test in the chat yet
futurist_wizard: Keep the fetish posting to a maximum.
hikukomoru: I can barely read shit
zoermena: Can you send a ss of the chat? Just to get a reference that I can try? Thanks! 👍
hey1_1hey: Can it do mpreg?
777agical: https://x.com/emostaque/status/1904625816136499614?s=46
hikukomoru: DISCORD FIX THIS SHIT
WHY DOES IT LOOK AWFUL NOW
joaoluz19:
zoermena: I don’t think I have it yet? If I do Gemini>4o
hey1_1hey: Why does everything seem so misaligned
zoermena: How long to get the new image gen?
joaoluz19: Yep it fucked up the appearance
hikukomoru: What is this 💔
hey1_1hey: It feels too cramped and spaciouse at the same time
hikukomoru: This shit is so ass bro 💔


wellmeaningalien: and dall e 3 on a tech shop
wellmeaningalien: i've already been seeing my mall using dall e 3 for most posters
.wolfnacht: *i got chills watching these*
wellmeaningalien: and people who have 0 graphic design knowledge can work them as they please and get whatever result they please
wellmeaningalien: like when these tools can make passable if not beautiful artworks most of the time
.wolfnacht: left looks like zuck's mom when it comes to facial symmetry and eyes.
wellmeaningalien: some of that midjourney shit is proof that graphic design and illustrator jobs are dead like officially
wellmeaningalien: i'll admit tho
.histic: lol
spicy.lemonade: Just cancel
spicy.lemonade: It’s over
spicy.lemonade: And prices
spicy.lemonade: And they have shit rate limits
wellmeaningalien: hilarious cope attempt from midjourney employees
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: lol
spicy.lemonade: Midjourney is dead
.histic: look at v7's right ear.
there's two
wellmeaningalien: i dont see how v7 is better than 4o here
.histic: i think you can get the gist.
.histic: Left: 4o
Right: v7
https://x.com/ciguleva/status/1908244053713707289
Midjourney employee showed 4o beating v7.
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: no prompt, no context
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/pooh-tigger-cute-dance-gif-704092308767568792
_cloudost: Winnie the Pooh is loved by them
.histic: yup.
_cloudost: Twitter American leftists would literally cheer for the CCP if the country ever releases some similar AI image generator like the OpenAI's one
.histic: omg, the collective IQ of twitter people is crazy.
no rational thought.
.histic: https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1908201869530259677
❓
OpenAI is definitely still making a profit. they'd just make rate limits worse if that was the case.
and now you still people in the replies that are anti-AI wanting to "bankrupt" OpenAI <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.0xunkn0wn: 0:39 this gives me konpeki plaza vibes lmao
hikukomoru: Ew it's a guy
Why can't it be a hot lady voice
.0xunkn0wn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw93wE_zJR4
.0xunkn0wn: for smart homes
_cloudost: Posted this video 3 months ago here, and now the information in this video is outdated
.0xunkn0wn: its like alexa but cooler
_cloudost:
hikukomoru: The fuck is josh ai
oooooooooog: what even is even that
.0xunkn0wn: does anyone use josh.ai
hikukomoru: No


fractalcomputer: Any idea on the hour and the minute?
zonchao: <a:SUS:1326788442549391401>
ldj: specifically late at night in the middle of june <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
gamerbath: oh I just remembered you said that yesterday, yea
gamerbath: oo
ldj: OpenAI open source model planned for mid-june though
gamerbath: temperature too high
gamerbath: mild hallucination
ldj: and I never visited Deepseeks cafe
ldj: The question was about R2, that's not an OpenAI model
gamerbath: I thought we were all gonna make it, but then fractal wanted a shrimp sandwich
fractalcomputer: I'd kill for a shrimp sandwich right now.
gamerbath: you didn't absorb any knowledge from that panko shrimp?
gamerbath: but san you ordered shrimp in their cafe. you should know all their timelines and insider secrets
futurist_wizard: I agree
ldj: Same chances as Llama-4.1 dropping potentially soon
same chances as OpenAI open source model dropping potentially soon
<:shrug:1083221317945413777> Yea probably all sometime in the next 3 months roughly
fractalcomputer: I've only talked to it in French.
zonchao: it is nothing without american funding though, pretty sure american VCs own like 30-40% of the company atp...anyway i was just joking <:salute:1151275518734381068>
alejandrozarzuelo: Mistral is very fast, I use it for googling shit that needs to be quick but not too deep
fractalcomputer: Maybe I should switch to using Mistral only as a joke.
alejandrozarzuelo: <@312370916820779040> what do yoiu think about R2 dropping potentially soon
ldj: No it's owned by french men
fractalcomputer:
fractalcomputer: Arthur Mensch, Guillaume Lample and Timothée Lacroix are all French by nationality.
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: owned by americans
fractalcomputer:
alejandrozarzuelo: Just because it cooperates with US servers doeanr meanr that it isn't important for European strategic autonomy

Sadly it's far behind SOTA
fractalcomputer: https://mistral.ai/fr
alejandrozarzuelo: It's French
zonchao: mistral is american
zonchao: <:clownsob:1083836484022435890>
alejandrozarzuelo: There was a Brazilian model who was briefly in the top 20 in MATH benchmark and I was all over the moon, because it would be amazing to have Brazil be on the cutting edge of AI aswell

I also would love Mistral to keep up with the new models
fractalcomputer: Thus sayeth the American, in a vulgarised, degenerate dialect of a European language.
alejandrozarzuelo: So, hopefully R2 will be, if not SOTA, at least on the same league as o3 and Gemini 2.5
alejandrozarzuelo: If China was significantly ahead on AI I would root for whomever was in second place
zonchao: LLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
alejandrozarzuelo: Which is the ideal
alejandrozarzuelo: As opposed to many countries having similar capabilities
alejandrozarzuelo: I am interested, I said that your position is cringe and I explained why, because I consider supporting American hegemony cringe

No need to elaborate, it's already explained


brain4brain: All AI seems to use the same font
brain4brain: AI-San
brain4brain: New phenomenon
wellmeaningalien: ok but like i wanna see some sort of process
brain4brain: Wait
spicy.lemonade: Some are a bit grainy
wellmeaningalien: yea its kind of grainy as if it's scanned from a magazine
brain4brain: AI
spicy.lemonade: Like if you zoom in
spicy.lemonade: Not just smooth
spicy.lemonade: Has texture
spicy.lemonade: I love how every image
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: In next weeks
spicy.lemonade: openAI said they're going to iteratively fix it
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: ok
brain4brain: Give me some unlabeled examples, I want to test the new world model
spicy.lemonade: Still don't see issue with R
brain4brain: Now that I see some, I’ve built a new world model to detect these <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, I am pretty sure that by the end of the year it will be literally impossible to tell
alejandrozarzuelo: but like, not a proffessional's human error, like an artist amateur error
wellmeaningalien: whereas this one contorts a bit
_cloudost: The same people are actively commiting terrorist activities on tesla owners, poor owners of tesla cars have nothing to do with Musk
wellmeaningalien: yah but its more of a uniform curve
spicy.lemonade: All of the current errors can be attributed to human error
futurist_wizard: i checked
futurist_wizard: thats in south park characters
alejandrozarzuelo: it looks like either a single human who isnt a professional would do
spicy.lemonade: That's what I mean
spicy.lemonade: Exactly
wellmeaningalien: but if this was a regular online artist sure
alejandrozarzuelo: sure
wellmeaningalien: professionally made shows dont have much human error
spicy.lemonade: Can be attributed to human error
alejandrozarzuelo: look at the negative inside
spicy.lemonade: All of this
wellmeaningalien: the only way i could spot this is ai is that the eye gap is sort of drawn inconsistently to the way it is drawn in the show
spicy.lemonade: A human could've wrote that


hikukomoru: Don't call me white
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: We should turn all men into femboys
sweetievee__33649: femboys are way better than twinks
wellmeaningalien: White people here if only yall knew the singularity was UZBEK
sweetievee__33649: true
hikukomoru: Femboy is superior to twink
futurist_wizard: Femboy is beyond twink
sweetievee__33649: so hes just a femboy twink then
futurist_wizard: Twink ish?
wellmeaningalien: Mushroom posted his face he's just like a twinkish white dude
futurist_wizard: And kneesocks
hikukomoru: gay ass bitch
hikukomoru: posted himself in a skirt
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250>
sweetievee__33649: real?
hikukomoru: He looks like a femboy
sweetievee__33649: i want to see mushroom man since you said he likes mushroom in *that* way and i want to see what someone with *that* looks like
wellmeaningalien: Yooo wassup is me bob
futurist_wizard: Lots of curly hair people here
hikukomoru: Like Alejandro because he's a whore
technocake.: spunchboba
hikukomoru: And other showed their Ghibli face too
futurist_wizard: Curly hair
sweetievee__33649: bob*
sweetievee__33649: bobo
sweetievee__33649: nice to meet you spongebub
wellmeaningalien: So.
wellmeaningalien: Anyway I showed my face and I'm SpongeBob irl
hikukomoru: I've already posted Ghibli me before
sweetievee__33649: id comprimise but only with a ghiblified image of me
wellmeaningalien: And of course fractal is Lovecraft irl
hikukomoru: Why would you want to show your face
wellmeaningalien: All but trent
sweetievee__33649: are we all just shy socially arkward people who dont want to show are faces on the internet here
wellmeaningalien: Yeah that's me wuddup bitches
hikukomoru: Spingebinge???
wellmeaningalien: Yo waddup nerds I know yall neets but while waiting for asi fdvr dommy mommy sim make sure to touch enough grass
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/san-francisco-cat-chase-gif-23967787
himekokatagiri: and my kind of denpa is denpaer


hikukomoru: Wasn't it just that crazy blonde girl
wellmeaningalien: besides those who draw light kissing L
wellmeaningalien: nah
hikukomoru: But i've heard it's the anime that's saving modern anime or smth idek I saw it on twitter
joaoluz19: I don't remember the anime but I think there were more people who liked him
hikukomoru: I haven't watched it yet
wellmeaningalien: dandadan is precisely one of the anime most fitting of that description
wellmeaningalien: dandadan
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah speaking of recent anime
wellmeaningalien: well light yagami gets precisely 1 pussy and arguably isn't really weak and lanky but
joaoluz19: Jujutsu too
wellmeaningalien: like literally everyone around me is talking about jujutsu kaisen or one piece or demon slayer
joaoluz19: One punch? Death note?
wellmeaningalien: these days anime is really popular tho
futurist_wizard: Toughest anime watcher
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/chainsaw-man-chainsaw-man-anime-anime-chainsaw-man-denji-power-gif-26903522
wellmeaningalien: chainsaw man but denji is cool and badass and awesome
.histic: i don't know if he is considered shy though
just a dork
.histic: dxd maybe
hikukomoru: I just mentioned two previously
wellmeaningalien: spongebob
futurist_wizard: Challenge impossible
futurist_wizard: Name the anime where the weakest lankiest boy whos shy gets unlimited pussy without naming every single anime
wellmeaningalien: meh usually those sort of animes are mid
hikukomoru: When the most peak anime you've ever watched gets ruined by some harem or loli fanservice bullshit 💔 🥀
wellmeaningalien: some animes are pretty great. a lot of them are retarded like you say but there are some that are quite worth watching
.histic: i believe the main reason i don't enjoy watching anime is that the plot or characters can end up ruining it for me.
i'm quite picky. the creators love doing some weird shit or not living to expectations..
wellmeaningalien:
futurist_wizard: I do not and shall never
hikukomoru: What anime is this
wellmeaningalien: yup
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: No
All the girls are there jsut for eye candy
wellmeaningalien: you sound like someone who does not watch anime
futurist_wizard: And all the girls like take up some masculine parental role or something idek whats going on
hikukomoru: Like the vast majority of the men here
wellmeaningalien: thats mostly because japanese men are dweeby little neeks
.histic: https://tenor.com/view/gendo-stare-neon-genesis-evangelion-gendo-gif-9367805630101002790
futurist_wizard: Like how all the boys are dweeby little neeks
futurist_wizard: I hate anime stereotypes


alejandrozarzuelo: In any case
jonvi_1: Think it had to do with statements on intervention
jonvi_1: Althouuugh I believe they changed some reference to Taiwan on some site during his current presidency don’t remember the details though
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: Look I just see one China, I don't care which
jonvi_1: (Although I think their position is not one where he should be referring to it as a country lol)
futurist_wizard: CHINA BELONGS TO TAIWAN
jonvi_1: Well I mean yeah the US just wants to be like that
alejandrozarzuelo: It's one of my favourite Chinese provinces, great tea
futurist_wizard: I LOVE TAIWAN
hikukomoru: We need Brasiu AGI 🙏
jonvi_1: Say country and EU
alejandrozarzuelo: Also Taiwan but thayd cuz he is stupid
jonvi_1: Wait did that chart
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
jonvi_1: Wait does he call the eu a country
alejandrozarzuelo: If it's enough of a country to donnie it is to me
hikukomoru: It acts like a country in some ways
alejandrozarzuelo: That there would be a technological race in the future (believable)

That the US would take the initial lead (believable)

That CHINA would be second

That Russia and Japan would not be even in the field

And that BRAZIL would be number 4
jonvi_1: Don’t call the eu a country by implication :(
alejandrozarzuelo: Imagine saying this to someone in the 80s
alejandrozarzuelo: 🇧🇷
alejandrozarzuelo: They are afraid of Brazilian supremacy
futurist_wizard: BRWZIL
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: Making it the fourth country after the US, China and EU to do so
alejandrozarzuelo: For those not in the loop, Brazil now has an o1 level AI
alejandrozarzuelo: This is why i trust the best country of all BRASIL

Rio gotta be the most Brazilian name for an AI possible
jonvi_1: Sorry lol I just appreciate it, the description felt a bit loaded
alejandrozarzuelo: Americans are crazy
jonvi_1: You mean Anthropic makes blog posts accompanying their research papers lol?
.histic: xAI (ElonMusk) sues.
OpenAI yaps.
Google ships.
& Anthropic gives existential blogs.
<:idk:1136264106937171999>
jonvi_1: Peter Thiel probably fits that description too
jonvi_1: I think he believes he has altruistic, steward of the future motives
jonvi_1: And I mean yeah
jonvi_1: Him lying about it and all
jonvi_1: Yeah the whole board thing with Sam was what I was referring to
zoermena: Lazy model
drewsni: Holy fuck I actually know this person lol
.histic: 🍿
https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1910105151492575611
https://x.com/OpenAINewsroom/status/1910105152801177636


.wolfnacht: but i don't have high hopes, the corpo's would straight make a way to filter to remove anything that resembles fun.
.wolfnacht: dats where all the smut logs go....
technocake.:
.histic:
joaoluz19: Interesting, I would like to see more work in AGI/ASI engineering, that explicitly cites these terms
futurist_wizard: I listen to oney plays to fall asleep
retrerox: Any streamer suggestion to put as a white noise?
retrerox: Just dm me what you want me to ask
wellmeaningalien: im actually kinda curious what timelines it'll give
wellmeaningalien: u better send those prompts thru
futurist_wizard: <@439829942310666250> how is chocolate milk made?
retrerox: tomorrow we can have more fun with gemini
retrerox: gn
wellmeaningalien: i think i'll head to bed now
st.sioux: komoru-level larping
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/stymead-druski-gif-10539135909213712578
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> show us the intelligence of the average mao pfp
futurist_wizard: <@505313122802728972> how is chocolate milk made?
wellmeaningalien: thats good tho
wellmeaningalien: dayuuuuuum
retrerox: i should sleep at 9pm
retrerox: I'm kidding 😂
wellmeaningalien: it's 1 am here
wellmeaningalien: lol early? what time
retrerox: yes
wellmeaningalien: yuropean?
retrerox: as a 32yold man i have to sleep early
retrerox: i'm preparing my bed
retrerox: Let me know
wellmeaningalien: 😪
wellmeaningalien: or i'll sleep now and itll be too late forever
wellmeaningalien: before i sleep
wellmeaningalien: <@636544123096137738> gonna sleep soon wanna see that other prompt run thru
st.sioux: its joever... BUT NOT FOR ME
st.sioux: banned
futurist_wizard: We need a #its_over channel
wellmeaningalien: so so
wellmeaningalien: imagine how many people chose that it came from brown cows because it was funny
futurist_wizard: Bruh
retrerox: or not yet


3ds0662: I kinda of changed my mind on the whole truth seeking thing after watching a podcast between alex o connor and this one guy let me time stamp
zonchao: he already is, while being the head of half a dozen companies. Elon doesnt micromanage.
3ds0662: if he treated xai like he did tesla wow it could be moving even faster
thedon7075: or more likely, more proof iq is a sham
3ds0662: there is a lot he can do if he wants to compete with sam altman and dario
thedon7075: hes been hacked
zonchao: also there is only so much he can do at xai
zonchao: nope, it will all come together
3ds0662: tbh its better if he leaves tesla and focuses all his energy on xai instead
zonchao: <:truethat:1232590824768802888>
zonchao: https://x.com/yhbryankimiq/status/1917916606765871383
trojan09205: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/reddiit-researchers-ai-bots-rcna203597?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user%2FNBCNews
gamerbath: actually it's the website i'm making, the tooltip you see in the image displaying info about o3 is what o3 made. I had no idea how to do this myself in a clean and organized way and neither did 2.5 pro, o3 did it
3ds0662: that doesn't look like cursor? windsurf?
realelonmuskx: he storing extra organs there
zonchao: peak
redeployment2005_67545:
realelonmuskx: wtf is this shape? he good?
sarik0497: For instance, I remember asking it once for a precise timeline of AGI, and it used David Shapiro as a source 💀
sarik0497: Give it as thorough of a description as possible and the things you precisely want it to look for. Make sure to mention that you want it to stay neutral and avoid any sources with unreliable or inaccurate data.
saket9283: Also how smoking affects our brain etc
trojan09205: It might be off topic-ish but you could try loading your sources into NotebookLM and try different prompts. That platform is really good for research
saket9283: I am interested in learning about meditation and its benefits
_creature: What task/goal or type of question are you interested in?
_creature: Different framings are useful for different tasks/goals
saket9283: hi, does anyone has a proper guide for prompting gemini 2.5pro deep research. Like how to frame the question ?
trojan09205: Irl wolf eating a pig
aero447: 💀
aero447: You can tell because his profile imagines him having two wolves inside him.
aero447: Alejandro is a furry.
trojan09205: Yo <@688807313015963693> i like your new avatar
trojan09205: They both live in Israel now though
trojan09205: My mom is from Israel and my dad is from Cuba
alejandrozarzuelo: inmigrants from israel?
trojan09205: Im an american haha. But both of my parents are immigrants
aero447: You are not understanding why Americans do X or Y when the answer is:
alejandrozarzuelo: today is workers day, no work today
trojan09205: Thank you bro!!! ❤
alejandrozarzuelo: idk how talking about cultural differences is being retarded
aero447: I hope your day is good.


oooooooooog: my soul is powered by re zero, terraria, and ninja.io's
futurist_wizard:
oooooooooog: WHY|| <@715495883202101268> <@715495883202101268> <@715495883202101268> ||
oooooooooog: after that, i will allow you to live the deaths that have not yet occured
oooooooooog: im going to make you relive the deaths of every human who has ever lived
spacetimetsunami: I wonder.
spacetimetsunami: What year will AI systems be as computationally efficient as the human brain?<:HD_reedly:1194355708037189652>
memlaswaif: that might legit be the worst anime of all time
oooooooooog: if only they made one for re zero fanfictions
destrucules: Basically ≥100x net efficiency over GPT-3.5
destrucules: Kinda wild that Maverick is only 3.1e24 FLOPs, less than og GPT-3.5
wellmeaningalien: multimodal doesnt matter ngl if it's shit at general tasks
wellmeaningalien: i stand corrected about the size thing tho
wellmeaningalien: artificial analysis still puts deepseek v3.1 2 rows above llama 4
wellmeaningalien: 💔 💔 💔 💔
wellmeaningalien: i'll wait for livebench numbers but gng its not looking good for llama 💔 absolutely shit long context comprehension, shit coding and math perf, plus why do they only show 2 of the benchmarks in your graph i dont think thats very fair
_cloudost: Can't believe people all around the world used chatGPT 3.5 for 1.5 years
wolf3404: Dana White should fire LeCunn
_cloudost:
_cloudost: No Veo 2 today?
technocake.: the black pharoh?
metaldragon01: i dont remember the name.
.wolfnacht: i think it's just flash 2.5 with codename
.wolfnacht: is it released or just in the teasing phase ?
.wolfnacht: which one ?
metaldragon01: There's a very good writing model in lmsys.
.wolfnacht: but it's explicit and uncensored right off the start
.wolfnacht: i'm sure it's their teased writing model, but it's pretty bad with spatial reasoning *(i mean all model are pretty bad with that)* but this one's worse than L3 when it comes around spatial reasoning of characters
.wolfnacht: when a whole month feels like a millenia
.wolfnacht: 6 months maybe
metaldragon01: Meta is just behind
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Better not be
wolf3404: It's weird but I feel like bigger models reach diminishing return as they keep getting bigger. Meanwhile we're seeing smarter and smarter small models pop up all over the place. Maybe small niche models are the future.
clevermoniker: still not flawless, but i don't expect o4 mini to be flawless either
clevermoniker: maybe its on par? at least for my usecase
clevermoniker: I think its on another level but i haven't tried Gemini 2.5
metaldragon01: speed is similar to 4o though so...could be a new upgrade?
clevermoniker: really? if so i am impressed
metaldragon01: doesn't feel strong enough to be 04 mini


ldj: https://www.youtube.com/live/6mRP-lQs0fw?si=T3gHeMUObzyNQw8b
ldj: <@&1293118293829484575> LlamaCon is live right now, many suspect that they will be announcing new llama-4 models, including reasoners and potentially omnimodality.
shirethedreamer: all i know is they are pretty much equal for gaming so you should probably go for the cheaper one if youre not at a position where money is not a parameter for you
aero447: 😐
aero447: Bro's biggest achievement was paper straws.
aero447:
.0xunkn0wn: whats better rx 9070 xt or rtx 5070 ti
.0xunkn0wn: guys
.0xunkn0wn: gius
aero447: https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-praise-gif-25000256
aero447: POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST.
aero447: SOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.
.coldcall: <:Ted:1136265390549381253>
.coldcall: > wartime econonomy
Come back in 4 months.
shirethedreamer: https://www.energy.gov/eere/solar/solar-manufacturing-map
fractalcomputer: And look how well those turned out.
xskydragon0: US Government will buy those solar Panels? With all the problem with the tax now?
shirethedreamer: no need for batteries
let the supercluster sleep at night 😴
metaldragon01: Solar plus batteries are the fastest solution
shirethedreamer: nuclear power is the answer
but it takes 3-5 years at best to construct
metaldragon01: It would be awesome but they take too long
zonchao: <a:mhm:1277135886320009316>
xskydragon0: But, if I may enter on this discussion... Maybe... Nuclear Plants would be better? Despite the risk...
shirethedreamer: 3% to 99% is insane
its not 33x the power
its 3300x multiplier...
metaldragon01: Job programs placements the whole 9
metaldragon01: The US needs a wartime economy that's all in on US energy infrastructure
return_to_monke1_33974: gotta be zimbabwe
metaldragon01: Guess who builds by far the most solar panels in the world?
metaldragon01: I think when we lose the AI race it will be because of energy if nothing else
zonchao: but space solar seems scifi af but maybe its possible
metaldragon01: Yes we need a ton more energy to remain competitive
zonchao: https://x.com/ericschmidt/status/1917224476514672711
zonchao: https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1916908392314245494
metaldragon01: More of a deepseek stan and minimax hasn't had an update recently
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/philipjohnst1/status/1916623332386168977 i wonder if this is possible
metaldragon01: He mentioned minimax before
ldj: Teortaxes is enough chinese on my feed
ailoveyoom: You need more 👲 in your X feed
ldj: But apparently others in this chat do
ldj: Because I don’t agree with that statement at all


zonchao: yea literally rescaling... they were probably not expecting rl and thinking models
sweetievee__33649: i really hope he does
futurist_wizard: I honestly doubt Kurtzweil is gonna make it, if he does he'd be very, very lucky
ailoveyoom: It's called being old <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
drewsni:
sweetievee__33649: i have actually never heard him talk now that i think about it
zonchao: expooonential
futurist_wizard: The guy naturally doesn't have good longevity genes, hes older than when his dad died of natural causes
hikukomoru: He looks and sounds like shit in his interview with Lex Fridman
hikukomoru: He's already going senile
zonchao: lmao
sweetievee__33649: is he really doing that badly
futurist_wizard: Ray Kurtzweil needs it in like 6 months
hikukomoru: Twitter artists are turning me into a mini-Hitler
zonchao: at least 13 9/11s
zonchao: this must be their personal 9/11
drewsni:
sweetievee__33649: too much brain dead ai slander
sweetievee__33649: i need it in 5 at this rate
ailoveyoom: If only people's first exposure to AI were cute Claude shenanigans 🥺
zonchao: https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1906664622226083922
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Trust 🙏
zonchao: they just started a new project with elmo for 30b 😭
hikukomoru: LEV in 10 years minimum
sweetievee__33649: did they just site the source as i saw it in a dream
sweetievee__33649: what are they even refering to
hikukomoru: What is bro waffling about
drewsni: ill find the ss
hikukomoru: They didn't even drop AI
drewsni: straight delusion
zonchao: huh???
drewsni: also bro congratulated microsoft for "dropping the whole AI thing"
sweetievee__33649: I need LEV in my life
hikukomoru: Badge of pride tbh
sweetievee__33649: it hurt my soul reading htat
zonchao: they really think they are doing something <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-nonono-nihablar-no-more-nope-gif-16477943
drewsni: also theres no rules against AI art, but obviously i prolly shoulda read the room better
.wolfnacht: Nah, i meant for Anti-Ai bros


hey1_1hey: We are like the dragon ball stone thingies
zoermena: In my head no but at the top of my laptop yes
hikukomoru: Singularity polycule
hey1_1hey: Reminds me of that post "Did I lose my virginity if I had gay sex with my best friend"
maintcrew: actually apparently its not the majority
technocake.: 60%
alejandrozarzuelo: I think pretty much everyone
maintcrew: who can imagine a vivid red apple and spin it in their head
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
hikukomoru:
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-omni-man-fortnite-gif-2250141886851912010
wellmeaningalien: shh
hey1_1hey: I have that, thats not nice <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/omniman-fortnite-omniman-fortnite-omniman-fortnite-gif-18041243789948650790
hey1_1hey: BROTHER
wellmeaningalien: alright bye fr now
alejandrozarzuelo: It's just sex but there's no women
wellmeaningalien: losers maybe
technocake.: this is a platonic polycule
hey1_1hey: Amphatasia to be specefic
hey1_1hey: Are there any people in ehre that cant imagine stuff in there head?
futurist_wizard: Try femboy porn, the pipeline
wellmeaningalien: <:hai:1282544198301515848>
wellmeaningalien: dude its funny to pretend to be gay online but im not actually gay
hey1_1hey: The eight fold path
hey1_1hey: Clearly you dont know the true way
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
futurist_wizard: Did you finish
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah he said he wanted me to pick him flowers
hey1_1hey: I can vouch
hey1_1hey: I was htere obv
hey1_1hey: It was
hikukomoru: You don't watch gay porn for an experiment
hey1_1hey: In fairness yeah
wellmeaningalien: bro is jesting on the interwebz rn
hey1_1hey: WHAT
hey1_1hey: UNGA BUNGA
futurist_wizard: The obsession in AI is pretty autistic
hikukomoru: Didn't you say you watched gay porn?
alejandrozarzuelo: You asked me for a date


avizuradnb: Yeah that looks better, those sketchy lines make it look slightly more amateurish which is what we want
anathemaofmankind: It doesn't even look like it was taken by a mobile phone dude
777agical: https://x.com/btibor91/status/1905291507533570189?s=46
anathemaofmankind: Is this supposed to be a picture
trent_k: Go to Google and search "Trent the Hedgehog" and use one of those pics
trent_k: <@471334973379706900> find some bad art on DeviantArt to use as a reference
spicy.lemonade: this is as far as well get
trent_k: Get real u wouldn't call this fake if u didn't know
spicy.lemonade: this should fix
spicy.lemonade:
jonvi_1: Sent this to o4 and asked for markdown conversion, it got the correct http links for the research papers on arxiv without websearch
futurist_wizard: The random growth in the foot
avizuradnb: I think it's the pencil strokes. They look like they're drawn as if coloring in an area. They don't move in the direction of the stroke. But you can try it out maybe they won't see it xD
futurist_wizard: That might get you caught
futurist_wizard: The drawing is not too precise
anathemaofmankind: The drawing is too precise
futurist_wizard: Good enough
futurist_wizard: Looks better
hey1_1hey: Defo better
anathemaofmankind: Still looks fake as shit
spicy.lemonade: hmm
gamerbath: or maybe you need to be more descriptive than that, but idk how to prompt that
gamerbath: have you tried telling it to make it not look professional?
futurist_wizard: Gpt wants to make it look very professional
futurist_wizard: Its difficult to get it to look real
hey1_1hey: Hopefully that will look a  bit more realistic
hey1_1hey: Good good
st.sioux: maybe do that
forallhumanity: Mhm
st.sioux: you know how those people put the pencils besides the drawings for some reason
avizuradnb: I think it's the pencil strokes
spicy.lemonade: eraser shavings
spicy.lemonade: told ai to generate faded pencil erasing
spicy.lemonade: ok
futurist_wizard: Its not the drawing its just the lighting isn't realistic
hey1_1hey: Maybe ask for "imprefect"
hey1_1hey: I think maybe too clean yeah
avizuradnb: That looks way too good lol
hikukomoru: it's just the lighting
anathemaofmankind: It's too clean and the paper is too shiny


spicy.lemonade: Keep in mind end of 2024 was insane
zoermena: This quarter
spicy.lemonade: Not yet. After this week it will
thedon7075: This year has already surpassed 2024
spicy.lemonade: Deepseek next week
jonvi_1: Blackhole and developers suggest maybe some memory api thing to me? Idk though
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI
spicy.lemonade: Kling
spicy.lemonade: Google dropping
spicy.lemonade: This week is gonna be batshit
thedon7075: 4.1
jonvi_1: Moom OpenAI is blackhole posting https://x.com/openai/status/1911782243640754634?s=46
thedon7075: until  deepmind or deepseek create an equivalent model in a few months at 100 times cheaper price
hikukomoru: <@482923866600112154> tier research query
spicy.lemonade: Nah
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: “How to make thermonuclear bomb in basement”
hikukomoru: 20k
hikukomoru: Only for researchers
hikukomoru: No
memlaswaif: I hope plus plebs get like 5 uses of this scientist <:pepethink:1136282436242788482>
spicy.lemonade: My hype meter will break
spicy.lemonade: I’m already max hype
spicy.lemonade: More hype
memlaswaif: Ure all hype regardless
zoermena: In short it’s fucking over
hikukomoru: I just don't wanna get dissappointed again
thedon7075: the information usually deliver
hikukomoru: I don't know whether to be hyped or not
spicy.lemonade: It can connect random fields
zoermena: If it can make even the smallest discovery that’s essentially RSI
spicy.lemonade: Humans havent
spicy.lemonade: Read every book
spicy.lemonade: It knows every single scientific field on earth
theaiguy69420_89814: and then all the in-between stuff
spicy.lemonade: When ai makes a huge discovery
spicy.lemonade: I’m gonna be so hype
theaiguy69420_89814: while the non technincal folks being very good at making use of the 0->1 idea generation that AI can get them
theaiguy69420_89814: technical folk being very good at pushing the limits of what an AI can achieve
hikukomoru: Oh nvm you posted him lol


destrucules: I like Gemini 2.5 Pro and the Gemma 3 models but I... Don't like talking to 2.5 Flash
3ds0662: be honest with yourself would you use llama over 2.5 pro
3ds0662: google ai studio is literally free
destrucules: I hate every AI lab
Every single one
If I refused to use a model from a lab I didn't like, I would never talk to any AIs
3ds0662: soo many other things in opensource llama isnt in the race anymore
3ds0662: and there is qwen which is wayy better lol
3ds0662: llama 3 is good enough tbh
a1c4p0ne:
3ds0662: all he could do is talk shit about deepseeks gpu optimizations
destrucules: You're refusing to use what may be the cheapest and best option for your use case because the company itself has lost your respect? Brother, I wish I respected enough companies to pull that off.
3ds0662: he couldn’t even be honest with himself
3ds0662: even watching zucks interview on dwarkesh gave me such bad vibes
3ds0662: it doesnt matter to me cause i wont be using them llama is out of the race completely for me
destrucules: Imo Llama 4 Maverick is indeed on par with other frontier pure LLMs, and Llama 4 Scout is indeed better than Llama 3.1 405B Instruct
destrucules: It's not as good as advertised. It's not even good relative to other models. But these are still solid models. Like, just clear away the hype, the framing, the fraud, the expectations, are they good models or not?
3ds0662: thank god anthropic doesnt do that lmarena crap
3ds0662: that was grok 3 levels of frauding
3ds0662: and that chatbot arena stunt lololol
3ds0662: lol zuck frauded soo hard
destrucules: For 402B parameters you get nearly the same capabilities as V3 0324
3ds0662: did you see its long context understanding
3ds0662: nah dont care bout fdvr
destrucules: Llama 4 isn't garbage dude. Llama 4 Maverick is legitimately in the same tier as Claude 3.7 Sonnet (Standard), Grok 3, GPT-4.1, Gemini 2.5 Flash (Standard), Qwen3-235A22B (Standard), etc.
3ds0662: im literally only waiting for those two
3ds0662: R3 is entirely dependent on R2
3ds0662: once gpt 5 and claude 4 release ill be waiting another 2 years
spicy.lemonade: "super asi when"
spicy.lemonade: "wen do we get fdvr"
spicy.lemonade: it wont even stop when we get to asi lol
3ds0662: llama 5 lol hell no
destrucules: There is no normal anymore. When Claude 4 and GPT-5 come out you're gonna be curious about R3 and Llama 5 and Gemini 3 and Qwen3.5 and GLM-5
3ds0662: just 1-2 more model releases
3ds0662: i want to see what happens when we get o1 + level on those things
3ds0662: were just starting image and video reasoning though
3ds0662: after those ill go back to the cave or normal
destrucules: I want to see them too but we've definitely already made extraordinary progress this year
3ds0662: claude 4 too
3ds0662: this year is amazing but i need to see gpt-5
destrucules: Are you fucking .. what?
destrucules: This YEAR???


spicy.lemonade: the texture
spicy.lemonade: the pixels
spicy.lemonade: down to the tiniest detail
spicy.lemonade: this is so cool
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: Ohhh okay
spicy.lemonade: "make it elmo"
spicy.lemonade: and say
spicy.lemonade: just give it a scene from movie
spacetimetsunami: What’s the prompt
spacetimetsunami: How’d you get it to do that
spicy.lemonade: yes
spacetimetsunami: Is this 4o??
spicy.lemonade: 😭
clevermoniker: should have just named it V3.1 and that's what i am going to call it
clevermoniker: personally im gonna use the new DeepSeek V3 the most out of those 3
clevermoniker: they really stole the thunder from Google, as planned
clevermoniker: and opensource is the most behind in images vs other modalities
clevermoniker: I am an open source fanatic but i have to give the crown to ClosedAI this time, because they are showing us the frontier in something possibly 'controversial' like images
zonchao: literally a democracy 😭
spicy.lemonade: i highly doubt
destrucules:
spicy.lemonade: likeley 2.5 pro performance then
clevermoniker: but i wonder if they could achieve o3 level even with just V3.1 + thinking
clevermoniker: and R2 will be reserved for V4
clevermoniker: some 'deepseek experts' even saying that the april release won't even be R2 but R1.5 using the latest V3
zonchao: 😭
clevermoniker: R2 will be around o3 level, nothing more, nothing less
spicy.lemonade: r2 will kill it
clevermoniker: he just converted a pic to that style <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: even in his ghibli fantasies he is a dictator
zoermena: <@750270494615404544>
zoermena: So like next year
clevermoniker: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248466428231815280/1354669133018562692/Screenshot_20250326_231114_X.jpg?ex=67e62171&is=67e4cff1&hm=48da44649d1d16d4ffa3256edc10e5f32212247df536333921054c8f6689a7b4&
spicy.lemonade: the next thing over aime
spicy.lemonade: usa math olympiad
spicy.lemonade: this is proof mathematics
zoermena: Ok
zoermena: Unless you want that
zonchao: do that


popsiclejohnithan: I mean yeah, a sponge cake is still delicious, but adding that icing and jam makes it all the more delicious.
hikukomoru: Wow harem king
alejandrozarzuelo: Im curious as to why you think just us two lol
okbut: What you mean to say is "Isn't masturbation equal pleasure but with less effort?"
That is true, but when you connect with someone and are very attracted to them, they might return the thought
futurist_wizard: I only select for people i have emotional connections with, but i am quite polyamorous so i can love multiple people
alejandrozarzuelo: Your loss
fractalcomputer: Because it's the same sensory nerves firing.
hikukomoru: Emotional connection, though I'm not sure you'd understand
popsiclejohnithan: How do you know?
fractalcomputer: I doubt.
popsiclejohnithan: Because pussy and bussy feels better than handussy.
hikukomoru: Alejandro I am NOT reading all that
okbut: I also have a connection with someone and that connection is conveniently very intimate
futurist_wizard: What an effort post
fractalcomputer: Then why not just masturbate if it's that simple? Why bother with the other people?
hikukomoru: Virgins only rule
alejandrozarzuelo: Because of several reasons

1) it's fun, sometimes I do it just for the fun of it, although simple fun is a bit hollow, not every activity you do needs to be completely fulfilling, sometimes you just want to play some video-game and others you want some sex

2) to deepen emotional bonds with someone, when I know someone I already like, it's a great way to deepen a bond and understand how they are, you really get a good feeling of who each other are with sex...

3) as a romantic activity with someone, if you really have a very deep connection with someone and you want to be theirs and they want to be yours, then it's only natural that you do it, although in these circumstances I am very passionate the act itself becomes less and less important and it is the whole charade of being held tight in each other's arms, cuddling, kissing and the whole physical intimacy that matters most, just snuggling in together feeling safe in someone you truly trust, as if the cold uncaring world means nothing in their embrace and theirs in yours, and sex then is just the cherry in top that doesn't make the whole cake

As you can see, it has several functions
okbut: Vasecomtypilled
zonchao: IVF king
hikukomoru: Trent is still a virgin
futurist_wizard: Yeah
hikukomoru: They both adopted
popsiclejohnithan: No one has had sex here, this is a virgin only server.
zonchao: yea but i found out it works, i tried some 4 liners from gpt and it got me more matches
hikukomoru: Really
hikukomoru: Just the two
futurist_wizard: Oh yea
zoermena: Trojan is a father
futurist_wizard: Trent and Alejandro
futurist_wizard: I have faith two people in here have had the sex before
hikukomoru: >why
Simple, sex feel good
okbut: Entertaining the loaded question with "Because evolution designed my pleasure just right to allow me to hack it"
popsiclejohnithan: Free will is a beautiful thing.
_3sphere: So sad and tired that I like imagining a computer Jesus, ffs
zoermena: No please goon with us
futurist_wizard: On my dating profile i usually just list my height and a short paragraph
fractalcomputer: I am doing anthropological research here.
_3sphere: I should probably feel ashamed of spending this much time here
zonchao: 💀
futurist_wizard: You know the Singularity is quite alluring to virgins because of the obvious implications


gamerbath: I tried getting it to make a simple game, and 3.7 sonnet did way better
gamerbath: man i'm actually dissapointed with o3
ailoveyoom: I have mine on AI Studio
ailoveyoom: What about on AI Studio?
aero447: Beverage L.
spicy.lemonade: Why don't I have veo 2
spicy.lemonade: Its been a week
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: I didn't explicitly tell it to make a snake game, I just asked for formats to create games with a single file of code and it did this as an example
gamerbath: well this is dissapointing. o3 high failed to make a snake game
gamerbath: what's so dangerous about using streaming?
gamerbath: I disable streaming and I can use it
gamerbath: whyy
gamerbath: I need to verify my organization to use *streaming*??
gamerbath: wait what
zoermena: idk
abundantliving_: Why not?
zoermena: but I wont
zoermena: maybe I can do that
zoermena: Perhaps you can develop a sniper bot that can automatically send messages on your behalf
abundantliving_: Otherwise I would see if someone posted it before me.
abundantliving_: Also because it's hard to read 1000 message that accumulated over time when I am sleeping
abundantliving_: Someone from other side of the world would have been online and posted it before. Being a first poster of something is difficult
gamerbath: they often get early access, and for a lot of benchmarks OAI did it themselves
abundantliving_: It's just I post something when I see something..
zoermena: its ok its just weird is all
spicy.lemonade: How does bro think we benchmarked it
abundantliving_: My Apologies
zoermena: Because you are alpha sigma
gamerbath: wait why can I access o3 and o4-mini through the API???? they said they were releasing the models to the API in the next couple of weeks but I have access after just a few days?
zoermena: Bro you always share the content that was posted like hours ago in the chat
zoermena: Trent is an expert
zoermena: Oh yes
ailoveyoom: Maybe I can ask LLMs to translate fancy talk to brainrot speak 😈
ailoveyoom: Also the jargon and fancy words 😭
fractalcomputer: Right.
precariousworlds.: APKHAZETI IS SAKARTVELO
fractalcomputer: I love Abkhazian as well.
precariousworlds.: GEORGIA MENTIONED 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 DOWN WITH ABKHAZHIA🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 DOWN WITH SOUTH OSSETIA🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 YANKEE RIPOFF PISS OFF 🇺🇸 🤢 WHAT THE FUCK IS A TURK 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪 🇬🇪
spicy.lemonade: Photoshop killed twice


_3sphere: What they gonna gather in this city with maybe 10 edible mushrooms in the woods total
fractalcomputer: What.
nsec: concubinism works
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
nsec: if u gonna survive ur asshole being sexable for stronger hunter gatherer males is the best bet
zoermena: I have a power generator in my home
zoermena: 🫦
.wolfnacht: The best way to prep is to not prep at all, bcz nothing ever happens.
_3sphere: That is not what I meant wrt us being "totally fucked" 😔
zoermena: 👀
nsec: skill issue
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
nsec: lube
_3sphere: Stockpile water maybe? idk
aero447: Unironically yes, this is plausible and can be realistically accomplished.
_3sphere: How would I even prep
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/PrepperIntel/s/7BrVB2YHAC

Yep they are on it too
nsec: skill issue
hey1_1hey: Like holy shit talk about harbouring your demons with a smile
.wolfnacht: I love watching then panikkk
nsec: build more advanced resistances
_3sphere: Because I am a whiny lil bitch 😔 🥺
hey1_1hey: Thats a new one to me. That one unironcailly sounds like a home for paranoid schziophrenics
.wolfnacht: They and r/preppersintel are the most paranoid subs
_3sphere: (this civilization, not humanity as a whole)
nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>
nsec: u sound like a defeatist whiny lil bitch
_3sphere: Without some countermeasure we're kinda done for
_3sphere: Ok but they do have a point about climate change and ecosystem instability
nsec: <:veryyes:773617399660412960>
nsec: genisues
hey1_1hey: The dueality of man, scared of collapse so you make a subreddit for it but happy when it happnes because it means you get to say "I told you so"
nsec: they successfully predicted 400 of the last four disasters
hey1_1hey: Of course its from r/collapse <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: r/collapse is on it first? 😭
nsec: spanish wiggas hate iphones
_3sphere: Fair point
nsec: <:1000yardstare:1168066462288715787>
.wolfnacht: https://www.rxddit.com/r/collapse/s/1USe4ewSUB

I just saw it rn, wonder what might have caused it
nsec: use ur iphone