zonchao: <@1272646380233560067>
hey1_1hey: Says the groomer
hikukomoru: Isn't Danserk the guy trying to groom you
hey1_1hey: Yeah I hate straight people 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🍔 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣
futurist_wizard: Stop thinking about it so rigidly
hikukomoru: "Femboy with she/her pronouns" God please just call yourself a woman at that point
hey1_1hey: Prob because its not coherrent and no one agrees on anything but hey ho
hey1_1hey: This shits diffucult
hikukomoru: Good
No straggots allowed
hey1_1hey: Whats his name
futurist_wizard: This is gen z gender math
hey1_1hey: I mean thats the pysop that some guy convinced me on here
hikukomoru: How tf does that work
hey1_1hey: Don't think so, you can be a guy, dress femenine and want to be called she/her
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Isn't that just trans women
fractalcomputer: Why do my neighbours think that it is a good time to start drilling holes into their walls when it is 20:17 in the evening?
.wolfnacht: i doubt for 3d modelling till 2028
.wolfnacht: every creative job
hey1_1hey: Voice actors prob
hey1_1hey: What about femboys who use she/her <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
.wolfnacht: "artists" and "programmers" gone, what's the next ?
futurist_wizard: femboys are still boys, theres some false lesbos in here
hey1_1hey: Then theres straight people in the 1%
hey1_1hey: Theres trans people, gay people, femboys and a mis match of everything else
_cloudost: It is
hey1_1hey: All the women in here are lesbians I am pretty sure
.wolfnacht: AYOO! my dumb mind didn't thought dat
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/biden-debate-president-presidential-debate-wtf-gif-4127151492472228747
futurist_wizard: are you also a lesbian
hikukomoru: You can just make another account
.wolfnacht:
hikukomoru: You don't have native image gen?
.wolfnacht: DO IT
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-funny-anime-computer-kawaii-gif-15735770
hey1_1hey: Yeah almost certaintly
.wolfnacht: can it create something like this with your character ?
hikukomoru: This is not 4o right
hey1_1hey: I can't tell weather to be insulted or flatered
hikukomoru: Changed his/her/it/their gender


spicy.lemonade: Insane
spicy.lemonade: Caught it before it deleted
a1c4p0ne: try it lol
spicy.lemonade: But nothing too crazy
spicy.lemonade: Actually it will
spicy.lemonade: It won’t generate fighting
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900> can it generate conquest fighting invincible
spicy.lemonade: It’s eye candy
spicy.lemonade: But it’s not even slop this time
spicy.lemonade: Bro I can’t stop generating slop
ailoveyoom: What other titles?
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/sports-betting-the-rock-gambling-bookie-gif-11827331
a1c4p0ne: Ima test it
a1c4p0ne: Nice
.wolfnacht: but after that, the results were good, i found many underappreciated titles
a1c4p0ne: lol
.wolfnacht: it gave genshin impact in number 1 😭
a1c4p0ne: did you like the result
.wolfnacht: it once dig through 300 steam web pages to find me something to play in exploration+fantasy genre
spicy.lemonade: Haven’t tried
a1c4p0ne: lol
a1c4p0ne: what about deepersearch
spicy.lemonade: Not even on gemini level
a1c4p0ne: it does
spicy.lemonade: Not even close
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Btw
spicy.lemonade: It sucks
spicy.lemonade: R2 within a month
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: and
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: grok has deepersearch now?
spicy.lemonade: This is insaneeeeeeeeeeee
spicy.lemonade: Needs reasoning
spicy.lemonade: It’s dumb tho
spicy.lemonade: Yeah it can play
spicy.lemonade:


alejandrozarzuelo: I am not agreeing with the tradition, I am just saying that it is a popular expression that just means "drinking lemon juice"
hikukomoru: If you called it "kill Palestinians" instead of "kill Jews" you know people would be up in a riot
callmepyro: It's just a local tradition 🙂
alejandrozarzuelo: It's a tradition of Leon
himekokatagiri: I speak Portuguese we don't say that
himekokatagiri: Everyone forgets the Spanish exist
alejandrozarzuelo: In reality killing Jews just means drinking lemon juice

Because alcohol is supposed to not be drank on that week
himekokatagiri: No way
callmepyro: All in good fun!
alejandrozarzuelo: Because you will hear it on the streets all week
alejandrozarzuelo: So people don't get alarmed
alejandrozarzuelo: To explain what it means
alejandrozarzuelo: There is a Visit León Announcement about that for foreign tourists
hikukomoru: WTF
alejandrozarzuelo: Yes
hikukomoru: Do spanish people really just go around saying "kill jews"
alejandrozarzuelo: Why?
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
hikukomoru: What is wrong with you guys
hikukomoru: What the fuck
alejandrozarzuelo: In León, the city where my sister studies, it's extremely important

Everyone goes "kill Jews" during the week

(kill Jews is a way to say drink lemon juice)
himekokatagiri: Tomorrow I don't work either
alejandrozarzuelo: So here it's not that important
alejandrozarzuelo: I live in Asturias which is halfway between Castilla and Galicia
hikukomoru: The bonuses of having a family of atheists
trojan09205: ✌
alejandrozarzuelo: In Castilla, one of the 4 nations of Spain, thr holy week is VERY important
trojan09205: Ill be back a bit later friends
hikukomoru: Besides christmas I never celebrate any religious holiday
trojan09205: Pretty much the same for passover as well with jews
alejandrozarzuelo: Same thing here
alejandrozarzuelo: Because it's fun
alejandrozarzuelo: I know many atheists who part take in ramadan
alejandrozarzuelo: This happens in many countries

People lose their faith much much more easily than they lose traditions
trojan09205: I work for a german company. Theyre off there tomorrow and monday. Idk if that signals religious
trojan09205: Lol mb. I am woefully ignorant about actual christian practices like cultural. I try to study religion though i think i have an okay grasp of the theology as a whole
hikukomoru: I swear you guys are still stuck in the times of the Inquisition
alejandrozarzuelo: You know, "cultural catholics"
alejandrozarzuelo: But Spanish atheists love the holy week
alejandrozarzuelo: Spain is one of the most atheist countries in the world


hey1_1hey: Well that was a shit question
hganhhh: would you smack elons ass if he was quirky like me
hey1_1hey: This question better be good
hey1_1hey: I am getting blue balled up in here
fractalcomputer: Well?
ldj: Apparently these people don't know how copyright works.
the "style" of a work of art is not copyrightable, nor is it considered intellectual property.
aero447:
hganhhh: please
hey1_1hey: Hes quirky
hey1_1hey: Dont ban him
hganhhh: i have one question for you
hganhhh: before you ban me
hey1_1hey: I mean I got eyes
hganhhh: wait
hganhhh: <@749514473303179358>
hey1_1hey: Hes a real cutie
hey1_1hey: Hey fractal we got are latest troll
hganhhh: who here is good at maps
fractalcomputer: The burden of meaninglessness is light to bear for some.
trent_k: the other one was better. u gotta leave a little bit to the imagination
hey1_1hey: Return to monkey
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-when-do-whendo-gif-21328168
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/wolf-drool-gif-24399822
trent_k: Whoa mama! Hummina hummina hummina bazooooooooing! eyes pop out AROOOOOOOOGA! jaw drops tongue rolls out WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF tongue bursts out of the mouth uncontrollably leaking face and everything in reach WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwurblwurlbrwubrlwburlwbruwrlblwublr tiny cupid shoots an arrow through heart Ahhhhhhhhhhh me lady... heart in the shape of a heart starts beating so hard you can see it through shirt ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum ba-bum*
st.sioux: goon shit
hey1_1hey: Id still fuck me
.histic: oh, it worked.
hey1_1hey: Id fuck me bro
hikukomoru: WOAH MAMA
trent_k: 👀
hey1_1hey: YOOOOOOOOO
hey1_1hey: Thats just a portugeuse person
st.sioux: i love greenland 💚💚💚 i have always been grelnland fan #1 💚
.histic: <@439829942310666250>
4o bugged out when drawing her in a bikini. i've been trying for like 10-mins and it either freezes or just stops due to violations. but i got this instead
hikukomoru: Portuguese soyjak
hey1_1hey: Hes not being racist or anything
trent_k: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: So now what. Big tonys become broing again
hganhhh: ok
.histic: i knew it


futurist_wizard: Skinny fat is usually just a muscle thing
oooooooooog: as long as u can bench 250 ur good bro
futurist_wizard: I don't really care for it, i prefer thiccer girls
hikukomoru: Oh
hey1_1hey: When they do tho 🥵
hey1_1hey: I litterly have DD cups bruh
futurist_wizard: Its very rare for girls to have abs
hey1_1hey: Yet another non-flyagaric mushroom. I am pleased the AI is learning
st.sioux: i dont know what is real and not real anymore
hikukomoru: Fuick Im skinny fat
hey1_1hey: huge
hey1_1hey: Yeah
oooooooooog: do u mean the underside??
technocake.: <@439829942310666250>
hikukomoru: Wait you have boobs?
oooooooooog: i dont fr
hikukomoru: You know what I mean bro
hey1_1hey: Theres an inside joke of me having saggy tits because my 2 bottom ribs poke out like a mf
oooooooooog: like wtf
oooooooooog: if u cant see ur ribs ur literally dead
zoermena: I’m lucky I can say YES
futurist_wizard: If you are skinny but you can't see your abs you are skinny fat
hey1_1hey: Bro dont get me started
oooooooooog: everyone's ribs are visible
aero447: Hurry it up then Oog.
hikukomoru: Are your ribs visible
oooooooooog: rolling out. free users technically included, but we're minimum priority.
aero447: I thought it was free users.
oooooooooog: then u can't lil bro. u can't even get native image gen. all ull get is dalle
futurist_wizard: Yeah thats skinny fat
aero447: Heck no.
zoermena: It has to release on ChatGPT
hey1_1hey: In good lighting I get a 6 pack out of no where but just walking around I got like a 4
oooooooooog: u can't yet unless ur paying. r u?
aero447: 😮💨
futurist_wizard: Then you're lean retard
aero447: How do you get it to edit images though.
hey1_1hey: Yeah
futurist_wizard: Can you see your abs at all
hey1_1hey: You're just being mean now huh


trojan09205: More of our perception of linearity that we perceive past present and future as distinct occurrences
.coldcall: Why is it a paradox
trojan09205: This vid is 🤌
https://youtu.be/wwSzpaTHyS8?si=H-oFa_hnIx2MFIJF
trojan09205: Im genuinely enjoying the book “Behave” tho i know some people were throwing shade on Sapolsky*
spicy.lemonade: we are already under the presumption the questions are tricks
spicy.lemonade: when you ask humans to solve simplebench
spicy.lemonade: yeah lol
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Not a single question wrong
a1c4p0ne: It aces it
a1c4p0ne: Use any of the top models and put “it’s a trick question” after the questions on simplebench
himekokatagiri: I'm stealing that
himekokatagiri: it called the guitar 'el kabong' <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
himekokatagiri: Gemini does do comments that GPT wouldn't
himekokatagiri:
.coldcall: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
.coldcall: https://community.openai.com/t/sam-altman-has-a-new-twitter-poll-open-source-o3-mini-or-a-new-phone-sized-model/1123339
metaldragon01: Thank you
maintcrew: i will excuse myself
maintcrew: Great point, let's see the damage tiktok has done on the youth
metaldragon01: But zero relevance to open source which was the topic
metaldragon01: You could say it about any popular Chinese site
metaldragon01: Which again has nothing to do with open source
maintcrew: the same problem applies to both sides
maintcrew: or if youre china bro about american models
maintcrew: i was more generally talking about chinese models
metaldragon01: Your point boils down to.

"If people use hosted Chinese models it can manipulate people!"
maintcrew: I wasnt talking about oss models, i quoted this particular message
maintcrew: And fundamentally misunderstand my point
maintcrew: I don't think you're mentally able to entertain an argument without insulting and demeaning the other person
metaldragon01: All this talk about narratives has almost nothing to do with opensource models
metaldragon01: I don't think you're in the space to talk about opensource or how it's actually used and why it's important
maintcrew: i stand by this
maintcrew: ------------
metaldragon01: ...............take your meds
maintcrew:
maintcrew: What has enterprise got to do with narrative shifts in the mass populace?
metaldragon01: And it hasn't clicked that it's mainly a enterprise solution
maintcrew: Again, i think im proved right by China literally banning chatgpt, claude, gemini, etc. They see the problem that would pose
metaldragon01: You're under the illusion that open source is mainly for personal use


alejandrozarzuelo: basically
alejandrozarzuelo: this is more interesting, it really is a great scifi story
popsiclejohnithan: Rome's biggest flaw was their might make right attitude, whoever had the biggest army was the emperor, it was an unstable as fuck system.
popsiclejohnithan: If only Rome managed to industrialize and not collapse due to idiocy, we'd be a thousand years more advanced right now.
futurist_wizard: I know what trap you were trying to set me in
futurist_wizard: Because furries has a strong correlation to sexual deviancy, nice try Alejandro
hey1_1hey: So roman empire gay aliean furries that is cnetered around interplanetery geopolitics and drama...?
hey1_1hey: My working memory only has so much room
alejandrozarzuelo: also did you forget it is interplanetary geopolitical drama story?
hey1_1hey: Depends, do they bang?
alejandrozarzuelo: why not
futurist_wizard: Sci fi gay furry aliens aren't sfw alejandro
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
alejandrozarzuelo: ok <@505313122802728972> was right, you are not a real man
hey1_1hey: No, like never
alejandrozarzuelo: dude, dont you think about the roman empire?
hey1_1hey: Is that for the autists?
alejandrozarzuelo: why not????
alejandrozarzuelo: thats a very important selling point
alejandrozarzuelo: dont forget roman empire
popsiclejohnithan: I would absoloutly love it to be true though.
popsiclejohnithan: I call bullshit honestly, i'll believe it when i see it.
oimrqs: i love this group so much but unfortunately I barely use discord 😦 would love a version of this on telegram
oimrqs: yeah exactly
hey1_1hey: If only it was true 🙏
hey1_1hey: This is just another strawberry guy sadly
gamerbath: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hey1_1hey: Being lenient now aren't we?
futurist_wizard: you will spend the next 500 years in matrix hell
futurist_wizard: is this appropriate alejandro? i don't think so
futurist_wizard: my goodness
hey1_1hey: I'm not religious but I support this message now
precariousworlds.: It's not too late to find Christ
hey1_1hey: I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT GILLY GALLING IN HERE AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FURRY ALIEAN ROMCOM
hey1_1hey: YO WHAT THE
joaoluz19: What in the actual fuck
alejandrozarzuelo: i hope you do behave <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
alejandrozarzuelo: one of the ones i read a long time ago that i think is pretty good is Adastra

Roman empire sci-fi gay furry alien romcom interplanetary geopolitical drama mystery with existentialism and philosophical themes and a really original worldbuilding

whats there not to love? (also, while it is true that the main lead is gay, this is not a gay story, well, not anymore than any story with a opposite sex couple as a romantic subplot is a "hetero story")

it is very good, and the main criticism about it is that it doesnt have a very strong vice-lead but thats because its supposed to be a self-insert character, and considering how many times the average man thinks about the roman empire, its a pretty effective one at that

its not everyones cup of tea but it is very beloved, it is also quite quite long... which is despite the fact that Visual Novels tend to be read faster per word than normal ones
hikukomoru: Pwease 🥺
I'll behave 😊
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case i think i already mentioned one of the ones i like the most and consider a great piece of literature a while back, but you probably werent here


zoermena: I agree that it has good features but once you get used to good prompt adherence it’s hard to go back
gamerbath: midjourney has style, you can rate images to fine-tune midjourney on your own preferred style. midjourney images also look much better than 4o images, prompt adherence aside.
zoermena: If it was good I would resub
zoermena: Too bad it’s adherence sucks though
zonchao: and has a lot of users
zonchao: its good
zoermena: Idk why
zoermena: For some reason they have subscribers
futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey
gamerbath: really? midjourney looks much better than 4o imo, it's just not as good as text and very specific prompts
zonchao: they dont have to raise like elon or sama
hikukomoru: MIDjourney is dead
And they ain't coming back
zonchao: i wouldnt rule them out
zonchao: they getting tpus
zonchao: i wonder how 4o affected MJ subs
.wolfnacht: they will make it uncensored and based.
.wolfnacht: they still gonna use terms like "claude's coding sauce" is still better
hikukomoru: And also super expensive
hikukomoru: Lol they are, but they're not the best anymore
rayanquitplayin: Why Tencent?
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395
.wolfnacht: getting bought by Tencent would be the best case scenario
wolf3404: no it’s good for coding
hikukomoru: They're worth 60 bil
.wolfnacht: meanwhile claude's fanboys are literally the most high ones on copium.
metaldragon01: Google and Amazon will keep funding
wolf3404: how much does it cost?
rayanquitplayin: Tech moves so fast
metaldragon01: Anthropic isn't throwing it in anytime soon
hikukomoru: They're already out of the race
hikukomoru: Someone should buy Anthropic
.wolfnacht: o4-mini is soo much cheaper and better than 3.7-sonnet-thinking
metaldragon01: I think of all the labs anthropic is in the weakest position
.wolfnacht: i guess claude might die somewhere in between
wolf3404: Including deepminds Google is probably way ahead tbh
.wolfnacht: google already planned better for long term than OAI did.
metaldragon01: Enterprise to Google and consumers to openai
futurist_wizard: Alphafold n shit
futurist_wizard: Google is ahead on achievements performed by ai i suppose
metaldragon01: I think openai will still have better products


oooooooooog: what are my vibes???????
a1c4p0ne: Let’s see
hikukomoru: You're 20 too?
You gave me 30 virgin wizard vibes
oooooooooog: 2025 take it or leave it
a1c4p0ne: AGI 2027
futurist_wizard: I shave mine
sarik0497: Welp, looks like it isn’t here I should be while coping my existence 😦
.wolfnacht: i'm 20 and ive got a beard, and most men at 30's don't even have a beard yet.
futurist_wizard: You are all children compared to a smart person
hikukomoru: DarkStar gives me retirment home vibes
ailoveyoom: Fair 😔
hey1_1hey: I had a shiver down my spine reading that
oooooooooog: they already here bro
hey1_1hey: Yuck
oooooooooog: wdym microplastics "soon"
hey1_1hey: Yeah dw me to girl 👉 👈
ailoveyoom: Gen alpha
ailoveyoom: Microplastics soon 😎
hey1_1hey: "gramps"
28 with child on the way 😭
hikukomoru: ARFID
sarik0497: Oh, sweetheart. If only you knew. It’ll come for you too.
.wolfnacht: a person's who's 30 rn would be around 50-60s when AGi would arrive
hey1_1hey: He must feel like a right acindent mf
hikukomoru: Gramps not gonna make it to LEV 🙏
hey1_1hey: Poor darkstar man
oooooooooog: ur getting up in the years grandpa
ailoveyoom: Bro is 28 smh
hikukomoru: Yeah you're 30 right
30+ is ancient
oooooooooog: fluoride poisoning
sarik0497: Am I really at that age now where everything is “old” 💀
hey1_1hey: Nutrient deficiency
hikukomoru: My brain never aged past 12
hey1_1hey: Agreed, I wish I was 13. I could get away with so much shit
hey1_1hey: Could've worderd that better 😭
hikukomoru: That's a compliment
Being young is awesome
ailoveyoom: It's my inner child 🥺
.wolfnacht: i wanna go back being 17
sarik0497: Wauw.

…I still hope I make it <:sadge:892224282363588679>
hikukomoru: I can't believe you're the same age as me
How is that possible
You give me teenage boy vibes
.wolfnacht: 🤝  i just entered in 20s on 16th march, i hate it now.


metaldragon01: We getting o4 mini so I'm happy either way
literallyvarane: But 2.5 is clearly a stronger model
darkstar0818: They are saying GPT5 is, as of today, at least 3 months out.  This is definitely a delay relative to previous comments.
literallyvarane: Sike R1 is still super cheap by comparison.
metaldragon01: They implied a delay
ldj: When did they say anything about “developing for longer” than previously planned?

They never said GPT-5 would be out by now
spicy.lemonade: oh shit
metaldragon01: 4o ish pricing
spicy.lemonade: in terms of price
spicy.lemonade: what model is it equal to
spicy.lemonade: need comparison
literallyvarane: Yeah this is super cheap tbh.
literallyvarane:
metaldragon01: Openai and Google have different customers
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: thats literally opposite of what they said
metaldragon01: The only lab in trouble is anthropic
spicy.lemonade: what?
darkstar0818: Developing GPT5 longer results in better results, news at 11.
metaldragon01: The small details don't matter much tbh
metaldragon01: Guys....AI gets better and we get to use it
ldj: Ty for repeating what I just said lol
darkstar0818: ```
but the most exciting one is that we are going to be able to make GPT-5 much better than we originally though.```
ldj: No…

They literally said: “we are going to be able to make GPT-5 much better than we originally thought”
spicy.lemonade: they said it exceeds expecations
literallyvarane: Holy shit that’s cheap no?
darkstar0818: They said they are reworking gpt5 in that post.
ldj: … this doesn’t make sense, if GPT-5 was failing expectations, then o3 pro and o4-mini would make GPT-5 look even worse, not better
spacetimetsunami: I’m sure yall have seen this but here
spicy.lemonade: for that
spicy.lemonade: never made exact date
joaoluz19: AVM
spicy.lemonade: hes always been honest with timelines
spicy.lemonade: i actually dont think he made such a statement
spicy.lemonade: when was this
spicy.lemonade: eh
darkstar0818: to be honest this oai announcement is a retreat in my book.  They realized the GPT5 they had planned would not be sota and that if they don't release the best they have right away they will be getting punked on for months.
joaoluz19: Last time he spoke a "couple of weeks" ago was like 6 months
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: likeley a week after r2


popsiclejohnithan: If we really have reached innovators then we are in the endgame, things will probabaly get crazy in a matter of months.
himekokatagiri: Cloudo can you do hype
_cloudost: Strawberry guy 🍓🍓🍓  started all the hype and now every AI company imitates his smart strategy
.wolfnacht: either pure fake hype train or somewhere near that.
himekokatagiri: have to wait to see
hey1_1hey: If the rumours are true I think thats the event horizon for the singularity, we went to level 1 to level to in like a decade (made up number, I couldn't remember), then in a year and a bit we went to reasoners and then a few months later we have agents (operator) and then only a few months after that we have innovators
hey1_1hey: Theres a lot of buzz around innovators recently. Does anyone know if theres any merit to the rumors or is it all just hype atm?
abundantliving_:
abundantliving_: Tweet to app is here
abundantliving_: https://x.com/lovable_dev/status/1912157597374775390
abundantliving_: "It never gives up" 😃
abundantliving_: https://x.com/menloresearch/status/1912428454374511065
rayanquitplayin: The beautiful thing is that there’s gonna be an economic Chinese model. DeepSeek proved it
rayanquitplayin: I read a little bit about Ray Kurzweil and ChatGPT’s release in 2022 got us closer. DeepSeek created a more efficient way
rayanquitplayin: I think we get AGI in 2029
popsiclejohnithan: Definitely.
rayanquitplayin: AI governance has a lot of potential
rayanquitplayin: I agree, what a time to be alive
popsiclejohnithan: We are like kids in a nursery and we need a damn teacher.
popsiclejohnithan: People are scared that they will destroy us but i am more scared that we are going to destroy ourselves.
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly, that's why i hope we get A.G.I./superintelligence soon, it's a miricle our species has made it this far.
rayanquitplayin: Between Trump, Musk, Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-Un we have some pretty irresponsible world leaders
rayanquitplayin: We’ll have AGI
popsiclejohnithan: Not overnight, it's going to be a slow and painful death, i hope they do climb themselves out of this hole.
rayanquitplayin: I don’t think America’s gonna fall off overnight
popsiclejohnithan: I'm just hoping we get superintelligence soon, we clearly cannot be trusted with ourselves as a species.
rayanquitplayin: Yeah bruh
popsiclejohnithan: Exactly, he's shot himself in the foot, with a fucking shotgun.
rayanquitplayin: He wants to renegotiate trade deals but he’s rly just causing inflation
popsiclejohnithan: That's if we don't all nuke ourselves.
popsiclejohnithan: Honestly it's my opinion that Trump has basically made way for the Chinese century, the jokes on me if this all somehow does make America the winner though.
popsiclejohnithan: I wonder how long it can hold out.
popsiclejohnithan: He'll shatter it trying to.
rayanquitplayin: He wants to bring America back to the past
rayanquitplayin: The S&P 500 is still close to it’s all-time highs on the monthly chart
popsiclejohnithan: I don't know how causing a recession is exactly going to make america great again but what do i know?
popsiclejohnithan: They've only been in office for a few months and they've crashed the economy, imagine how much damage they will do over these 4 years.
abundantliving_: https://x.com/realHongyu_Wang/status/1912333722415694124
abundantliving_: https://youtu.be/r45-w5MKOlE
_cloudost: 🚨 ⚠ Good news for <@750270494615404544> 🚨 ⚠


ailoveyoom: I mean still cool tho, was this what you wanted to see from Veo?
fractalcomputer: Oh don't you go citing Alejandro. Just because I actually fucking ask you to evince your beliefs beyond the vaguest notions of "someone else said so" does not make conversation with me any more difficult than with any other person off the street.
.histic: i'll try again
.histic: <@430269783112548362> wait, you said distinct <:LOL:1187460826572005436> nvm
spicy.lemonade: yeah
hikukomoru: You're just a contrarian
hikukomoru: This why arguing with you is so bothersome lol
spicy.lemonade: any idea you come up with would have been based on what someone else has already done
fractalcomputer: If you do not think that it is a fallacy, you should provide reasonable causes to believe that one can draw veridical knowledge from these figures.
.histic: 4o img gen
hikukomoru: https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/36228/is-one-commiting-the-argument-from-authority-fallacy-and-or-the-consensus-fal
metaldragon01: And you should stop pretending that you do tbh
metaldragon01: Yiu have no idea how any of this works
spicy.lemonade: you cant make a completly new game either
fractalcomputer: Where did you find that quote? From Reddit? I mean, we can bicker about the definition of the fallacy all day, but appealing to its definition will not help your case.
metaldragon01: It can make a new game
metaldragon01: Lol
metaldragon01: One of those
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: 2.5 literally can
literallyvarane: So… you can’t reason?
fractalcomputer: Common sense typically does not embody the heights of normative logic.
hikukomoru: > The argument from authority (Latin: argumentum ad verecundiam) also appeal to authority, is a common argument form which can be fallacious, such as when an authority is cited on a topic outside their area of expertise or when the authority cited is not a true expert.
spicy.lemonade: its common sense
spicy.lemonade: this isnt an appeal to authority fallacy
fractalcomputer: "An argument from authority[a] is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority figure (or figures) is used as evidence to support an argument.[1]"
cmtclx: or the website or whatever
cmtclx: im lazy too
sometimes id benefit from using AI more but im just too lazy to open the app
spicy.lemonade: i dont get the point. we have 3 nobel prize winners and various labs with the best researchers on earth vs opinion of 1 guy on discord
hikukomoru: Because that's the definition of that fallacy so there is no need to expand my point.
cmtclx: feels ;/
.histic: exactly.
even if you had knowledge of billions of chess games that doesn't mean you'll be a great chess player. that's not how it works.
LLMs are the contrary, they don't just retain, they train.
ailoveyoom: Lazy 😔
fractalcomputer: Now you are only restating your point. That is not an argument for your case.
st.sioux: It would not be authority if it was some random guy
metaldragon01: We are
fractalcomputer: Humans are surprisingly versatile.
hikukomoru: Because the authorities in question are relevant to the field. It would only be a fallacy if he quoted some random guy unrelated to AI instead.
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: can you beat the best chess player?


gamerbath: transformers are a beutiful form of art, I hope we can agree on this
alejandrozarzuelo: this definition is shit, because it defines art as something human
fuhulootogan: definition?
fuhulootogan: do you want to appeal to this?
alejandrozarzuelo: and it has created an emotional response on you
alejandrozarzuelo: it was intentional
alejandrozarzuelo: its still art
alejandrozarzuelo: a sad song makes you sad
fuhulootogan: lets sort this out
fuhulootogan: uhh
fuhulootogan: wait
alejandrozarzuelo: an emotional response
fuhulootogan: what
alejandrozarzuelo: AI art is art by the extremely simple definition of intentionality and pleasure

(when i say pleasure i mean the broad sense of the word, a piece of art that makes you cry or angry or whatever counts as such)
fuhulootogan: depends on your intentions
fuhulootogan: i want to be on the same page as you
fuhulootogan: define "aesthetic pleasure"
alejandrozarzuelo: you can create a lot of stuff that doesnt have the intention to create aesthetic pleasure, so it is not art
fuhulootogan: right so context matters
alejandrozarzuelo: creation is not important to art, intentionality is
alejandrozarzuelo: because there is intention and there is aesthetic pleasure
alejandrozarzuelo: but when i ask chatgpt to make a ghiblified version of myself, that is art
fuhulootogan: also they're not really "creating" it
alejandrozarzuelo: sure, if they dont then its just another use of AI
fuhulootogan: its not bound to just that
fuhulootogan: thats assuming they wanted to do it to create aesthetic pleasure
abundantliving_: Are all bananas art?
alejandrozarzuelo: the person who commanded the AI to do it did it with the intention of creating aesthetic pleasure
fuhulootogan: of an AI
fuhulootogan: the intentions
fuhulootogan: you can't really assume
fuhulootogan: yeah uh
fuhulootogan: thats silly
alejandrozarzuelo: -intentional
-aesthetic pleasure

ergo its art
fuhulootogan: you're not "stealing" someones knowledge
fuhulootogan: you use references and watch tutorials all the time to develop your skill
alejandrozarzuelo: it fulfills the only 2 requisites for art
fuhulootogan: but IMO ai isn't stealing
alejandrozarzuelo: it is art
alejandrozarzuelo: therefore


spicy.lemonade: when released
spicy.lemonade: gemini 2 pro will be insane
brain4brain: ?
brain4brain: Giving the whole video to Gemini’s right now, 700,000 tokens is wild
spicy.lemonade: sheesh
spicy.lemonade: bro is always ready to doom
brain4brain: And then it explain in a clear way to me
brain4brain: Exactly, I was so confused at first that I have to give it to ChatGPT
spacetimetsunami: Yeah I’ve realized that now
destrucules: By "I suspect we'll have to figure out new models" he's talking about economic models, not AI models
spacetimetsunami: Makes more sense
spacetimetsunami: Oh okay yeah
spacetimetsunami: Oh you watched the vid
spicy.lemonade: hes talking about new models of society
spicy.lemonade: hes not talking about new AI models
spacetimetsunami: Yeah, basically there’s been nothing in history to ever happened that might help us make decisions about what to do about them being like that. They will be entities.
Don’t have the context but he’s probably talking about other models, talking about super alignment even, perhaps
oooooooooog: obviously
oooooooooog: he's saying AGI imminent
.histic: wake me up in 1-2 months.
.histic: AI slumber
brain4brain:
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/slow_developer/status/1903421705491468798?s=61
shadyjakey: bet
brain4brain: For Jailbreak prompt and prompting server: Pliny server
For more technical AI: ElutherAI
For more general server: OpenAI official server
shadyjakey: Seems a little silly lol
st.sioux: maybe ai-creations?
shadyjakey: I guess there are none?
brain4brain: https://fxtwitter.com/biogridgame/status/1903239650883355075?s=61
shadyjakey: Or like good prompting servers
shadyjakey: I was gonna ask about where I could share prompts I make
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/shy-hi-gif-25532260
brain4brain: Hi
zoermena: Thanks! 👍
shadyjakey: Oh also screen2gif, best gif app ever
shadyjakey: The animation is made by someone else
shadyjakey: Yep, raw frames in photoshop
zoermena: What software do you use for that stuff is it like photoshop?
shadyjakey: Thanks I made it myself
zoermena: Your profile picture is sick
shadyjakey: Hello


st.sioux: there are a lot of bots on X
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/tyrion-lannister-game-of-thrones-go-t-season5-puke-gif-4050714
fractalcomputer: Thought Leadership in AI for Humanity's Next Leap?
spicy.lemonade: Likeley going to be more like Twitter
spicy.lemonade: It’s sora
spicy.lemonade: They already have this
fractalcomputer: What is with these nonsensical accounts in the replies of every relatively popular tweet?
zoermena: So Thursday
spicy.lemonade: Yes
abundantliving_: 9gag 😂
abundantliving_: If images can be posted . We might have text as well . Otherwise it will text on images
abundantliving_: Or pinterest
abundantliving_: I hope it's not completely like imgur
abundantliving_: Then it will become x
abundantliving_: Then some comment will be very popular
st.sioux: it will be a vibe-based social media
abundantliving_: Someone will need to comment on the images
drewsni: Image mainly? So not trying to take on X lol
zoermena: That’s the date for the release of the new o models?
spicy.lemonade: 2 days till agi
abundantliving_: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912172587452350708
sieventer: https://aistudio.google.com/app/plan_information -> you can check here for other models

(it doesn't appear 2.5 Pro, wtf)
drewsni: Yeah it’s really fucking annoying lol I use like $2-3 a day in api but I don’t know how much of that is from just ai studio usage or my normal flash scrips
sieventer: Well, that's for Flash
sieventer:
st.sioux: and no way of knowing which is which
st.sioux: but i also have other apis running
st.sioux: it only shows billing and after 1 day
drewsni: O1 is 100k
st.sioux: i have no clue really, there is also no way to tell because cloud console doesn't tell you
drewsni: So it is paid after the 25 uses on Ai studio?
sieventer: If I choose 2.0 Flash it says 8k output
sieventer: I assume so, the settings of 2.5 Pro is by default 65k output lenght tokens
sieventer: Really? I don't understand, I yapp a lot with it but... I don't reach the limit.
777agical: does that model lead with the most output tokens?
st.sioux: i hit it everyday :/ it's getting expensive
himekokatagiri: goddamn they still didn't open Veo 2 up
sieventer: I use it everyday and I never get the rate limit of 2.5 Pro tbh
sieventer: [2.5 Pro]
sieventer:


hikukomoru: Are you sure you're using native image gen
hey1_1hey: The pfp is accurate to real life aswell
hikukomoru: Wtf that looks nothing like my pfp
hey1_1hey: 💀
.histic: but i'd say Flux is better than Aurora (Grok's image gen).
.histic: it's not as good
_cloudost: Unlucky 😔
metaldragon01: Go test it on poe
_cloudost: Lots of people hyped it
_cloudost: What about Flux
hey1_1hey: I asked for another image from 4o expeting nothing and it said what I expected, try again in 6 hours when you have more uses. So I just said I dont mind and I think it should do it now and now its generating
.histic: dalle is old
this is something big & special
_cloudost: Just 3 seconds
_cloudost: thought it was like Dalle
hey1_1hey: I just found a lil something
futurist_wizard: Bruv
futurist_wizard: Takes a while
.histic: nah, it just be like that
.histic: i wish 4o were more consistent when handling references. when i say to just edit some aspects of the image i provide, it usually ends up drastically changing the overall look. this mostly happens with anime images.
_cloudost: Why does generating an image with OpenAI's native image generator take so long? Is it cuz I'm  not premium User?
hikukomoru: Fuck this
hikukomoru: Everyone has native image gen but me
otub:
.histic: recent article
https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/the-real-story-behind-sam-altman-firing-from-openai-efd51a5d
drewsni: It’s probably because I archived 5k videos like a week ago but the issue just started today
hey1_1hey: Well theres my recomendation out the window
drewsni: Wonder if they put me on a temp restriction
drewsni: Not sure what’s going on, even if I fetch fresh cookies I can’t download YouTube videos either
drewsni: It’s all browsers but also discord
hey1_1hey: Is it a browser issue or youtube?
drewsni: Speaking of that. I can’t play any embed YouTube videos because of cookies issues right now
hey1_1hey: They aren't accpeiting new sign ups right now and you cant log in either
hey1_1hey: God forbid you clear your cookies 💀
drewsni: Maybe they just had it at 4 because half the gen’s failed the first day
.histic: only 2
.histic: yeah, it's there, but you can't enable it
drewsni: You used to be able to gen 4 outputs
.histic: wdym? 🤔
drewsni: Wait they nerfed it from 4? 🙀
.histic: use sora.com
better rate limits, less refuals. and you get 2 outputs instead of just one.


trojan09205: it's a squarespace website lol
.wolfnacht: nah convo's on this server are still better than other AI servers
technocake.: I mean that it wasn't anywhere near the quality of situational awareness, although that also can't be relied upon
trent_k: alejandro, and his special interest is arguing
fractalcomputer: And who would be the most?
trent_k: I think I might be the least autistic person here
trent_k: nothing ever happens
vancebeliever: What is a prediction that can be relied upon
fractalcomputer: but it was well-researched lol (I assume you are not autistic.)
trojan09205: interesting thanks. checking out the site now

they use https://docs.uploadthing.com for part of their backend
technocake.: it's somewhat plausible but my no means a prediction that can be relied upon
technocake.: yeah I feel that, saviour fic
trent_k: ai-2027.com
basically speculative fiction about the potential near future of AI. I was unimpressed by it
trojan09205: i dont follow any AI news lol
trojan09205: what is this infamous thing everyone is talking about
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm not autistic <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
alejandrozarzuelo: What? No?
trent_k: Feels a little bit like Daniel was writing some self-insert fanfic
trent_k: I read that ai-2027 thing
trent_k: Unrelated but
trent_k: I'm coping and seething that my bot project didn't piss off as many redditors as the university one did
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/hysterical-laughter-laughing-gif-25735842
hey1_1hey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aN4Xg0VvCs I said to myself before watching the video "This has an 80% chance to be <@1068159407671754824>" doing all of this and turns out it wasn't <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
futurist_wizard: Except if it's about gay furry orgies
himekokatagiri: I'm burned out
himekokatagiri: I don't do that either
fractalcomputer: It's not healthy to be that autistic.
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't usually read or watch  fiction, so...
.wolfnacht: 🍿 🎥, 2027's gonna be fun
himekokatagiri: you look like youtuber sepi
zonchao: joanne dodging the real questions
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/the-mask-dodge-gif-22809594
ailoveyoom: 🍿 😈
ailoveyoom:
zonchao: masa will save him
trent_k: altman must be fucking FUMING
trojan09205: NHL playoff tickets are also mad cheap
zonchao: https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1917603836992106749 it is over for sama
zoermena: Time to finance a McDonald’s burger
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/jesse-pinkman-jesse-pinkman-crying-jesse-pinkman-screaming-jesse-pinkman-andrea-jesse-crying-gif-25171987


spicy.lemonade: Facts
spicy.lemonade: They provide substantial amount of data
spicy.lemonade: Their predictions are better than any of ours
spicy.lemonade: Infact
spicy.lemonade: Ngl I don't see anything wrong with this
retrerox: Can i use cursos with gemini?=
sarik0497: That’s true, and was sort of a mixed bag. However, it depends a lot on where you’re, I think. If you told any of my friends that you were talking to an AI, they’d put you into that category of being a lonely guy with no one else to talk to.
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/her-movie-her-movie-gif-joaquin-phoenix-gif-12506377
sarik0497: It does to some extent. It shows an understanding of the environment that they’re talking about.

In the same vein, you also believe the predictions of experts in a specific field more than some random Joe. It doesn’t mean that their word is law and a certainty, but it does give them more credence.
trojan09205: I ask it what im looking at and then just chat with it. It has a nice agentic backend you can set reminders and other stuff too

Ask it to play a song
trojan09205: I also like just chatting with llama on my face lmao
trojan09205: I had a $300 gift certificate at macys i got at work so i didnt throw down much
drewsni: i got them and dont use them lol
trojan09205: Bruh i went to go buy a new pair of sunglasses and theyre all mad expensive anyways

So i got sold on the meta raybans haha 😂
trojan09205: I also like taking videos of birds and nature
trojan09205:
shirethedreamer: lmao yeah thats pretty conservative 😆
trojan09205: Definitely as regular sunglasses and headphones
himekokatagiri: such technology and they put it in a frame designed in the 50s
shirethedreamer: oh nice
i dont know anyone that got those
whats your number one use?
trojan09205: Kind of looks like that
trojan09205: Yeah broo
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/roy-orbison-guitar-black-and-white-gif-13829619
trojan09205: Theyre wayfarer style transitional sunglasses with cameras microphone and speakers and a llama model
himekokatagiri: this guy
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/buddy-holly-the-crickets-headbang-oh-boy-ed-sullivan-show-gif-24774095
trojan09205: Lol wat
himekokatagiri: the buddy holly glasses?
trojan09205: I like my meta raybans a lot
zonchao: a step in the right direction but still "the more a human played a role in a film's creation, the better"
himekokatagiri: I'm growing it out so I can do a pompadour
himekokatagiri: yeah usually I just end up with the dumb & dumber hair
zoermena: I’ve thought of it but I haven’t, I suck at combing my hair so I just use my body moisturizer.
himekokatagiri: anyone using AI for hair pomade tips 😭
zoermena: If I had the money I would buy one right now. My favorite feature I think is the spatial photos and videos. I would like to remember deceased SOs in that format.
shirethedreamer: didnt try them yet
but just judging from the other vr glasses i tried over the years its advancing way faster than i thought
zoermena: Albeit the other features are just way to good, have you tried it? It’s like Star Trek I swear <:startrek:1334027709541777460>
futurist_wizard: I wouldn't mind vocally talking to future AI though, as that would be funny
shirethedreamer: yeah its a bit goofy right now
but i think they are taking it in the right direction
its just that the tech just needs a couple more years of maturing
futurist_wizard: I'd rather be lonely than use a chatbot


spicy.lemonade: but to them it was right on time
spicy.lemonade: they pushed it up
spicy.lemonade: we wouldhave said
spicy.lemonade: if they dropped earlier
spicy.lemonade: in fact
ldj: Okay I found previous timeframe comments about GPT-5.

Sama said in mid-feb about 6 weeks ago: “months” for GPT-5.

Now about 6 weeks later he’s saying it’s still “months”

These are both consistent with releasing towards late 2025.
darkstar0818: https://tenor.com/lhJ5X8wLYVJ.gif
spicy.lemonade: end of year
spicy.lemonade: we had no idea when theyd drop and we alreadya ssumed
spicy.lemonade: not a delay
spicy.lemonade: but externally
spicy.lemonade: its a delay internally
literallyvarane: If this was on the SAT and you said it wasn’t a delay you’d fail the question.
literallyvarane: Clearly it’s a delay my guy what are we even doing here lol
literallyvarane:
darkstar0818: If you want to believe this isn't a delay, I am fine with that.
ldj: If they did then please show me
ldj: They didn’t say any timeline previously that is mutually exclusive to the current GPT-5 timeline
spicy.lemonade: so august
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will likeley launch before the new school year
futurist_wizard:
literallyvarane:
spicy.lemonade: july min
spicy.lemonade: like
spicy.lemonade: i didnt expect gpt 5 until
ldj: I think you’re reading too much into things tbh, they never even say any word that is synonymous with “delay” in that post
spicy.lemonade: not crazy delay
ldj: Yea I don’t see it
spicy.lemonade: eh
literallyvarane: This is CLEARLY a delay lolol
darkstar0818: when they first announced GPT5 they gave a rough timeline when it would hit.
ldj: Even I’ve been saying since last year that GPT-5 is likely not coming until late 2025
literallyvarane: It’s surely a delay tbh
ldj: When did they ever say it would come sooner than 3 months from now?
literallyvarane: Presumably at least
ldj: Hmm I didn’t gather that implication personally
spicy.lemonade: we expected this
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 in a few months
literallyvarane: Grok3 is the comp, and it’s much cheaper than that
joaoluz19: https://x.com/karpathy/status/1908109168952676855


anathemaofmankind: Intersex are only 2% of the population.

I'll make an exception then too because its genetic
futurist_wizard: My tattoo lady was very hot
ailoveyoom: Identity is scary and hard, paradoxically some people might feel more comfortable if they have a 'role' within society (as dictated by their gender).
trojan09205: She was super nice i gave her a great review on facebook

And for a first time piercer im glad i went there. Very professional clean studio and they only sell at least titanium or gold pieces and she walked me through it all very nicely
ailoveyoom: Tbh I think norms and roles should be taken more as a suggestion
futurist_wizard: She sounds like a nice person, she probably wasn't
trojan09205: Lol 😂
trojan09205: Is it wrong for me to assume shes a lesbian
futurist_wizard: Nice, fuck her in the nice way
hikukomoru: How do you refer to intersex people
trojan09205: No the opposite
futurist_wizard: My bad
futurist_wizard: I thought you said she was saying it wouldn't be acceptable for you to get certain ones
futurist_wizard: I misread your message
futurist_wizard: Oh wait
trojan09205: She was great though. I explained i wanted like a simple heteronormative stud and she got it lol. But i think she felt compelled to say what she said it was actually cute though
anathemaofmankind: Lol
futurist_wizard: Fuck her
trojan09205: The piercing lady
futurist_wizard: Who did
trojan09205: I went to get a piercing like a few weeks ago and i told her i wanted something more masculine and she gave me a short but polite speech about masculinity being relative lol
artemisfowl887394: Lol. That's probably because you forget to blink.
anathemaofmankind: I'm a sex absolutist.  I don't care about ppl gender, I will refer to you by DNA and your biological makeup. The exception is if they're hot and I can't tell any difference.

Of course if gene editing becomes a thing then the distinction becomes irrelevant
trojan09205: But do you actually like animals my bro
futurist_wizard: There's different forms of it, but I'm in favour of removing gender norms and roles from society e.g (men & women behave like this, wear this or that, **should** be doing such and such) but im still in favour of keeping the sex categories
ailoveyoom: I'm not 😇
fractalcomputer: No, I enter their presence and I immediately get bad eye.
trojan09205: Love that. Ive been sleeping with my two dogs as well its super cute
trojan09205: Do you ever just get down low and wait for them to approach you and kind of be standoffish til they make contact
hikukomoru: Yesss
There is no better feeling in the world for me than waking up with my two babies sleeping on top of my chest
fractalcomputer: Most animals are spooked by my presence. I wonder why that is.
trojan09205: Cuddles with fur friends is legit something you can thank the universe for being alive to enjoy
trojan09205: Appreciate you
hikukomoru: Cutie
I'm currently cuddling with my cats in bed
zonchao: never forget 🦅
trojan09205: I was just calling her a doge being non funny haha
trojan09205: Yeah its storm great memory homie G
zonchao: is that her name...i thought it was storm or something
hikukomoru: What's a gender abolitionist
trojan09205: I mean its fair perspective if youre consistent


.histic: i thought bezos own NYT, but it was the Washington post..
himekokatagiri: you're never gonna see any publication defend AI
himekokatagiri: because it's gonna replace them
himekokatagiri: journalists hate AI
himekokatagiri: NYT is bad cause they're journalists
.histic: wait nvm
himekokatagiri: bezos?
himekokatagiri: it thought it up for 3 minutes
.histic: do you think bezos touched you?
himekokatagiri: but it didn't work.
himekokatagiri: anyhow I decided to use 2.5
.histic: y?
himekokatagiri: I tried probe
.histic: yeah, it's a weird word to think about
himekokatagiri: I feel dirty just by using the NYT website
metaldragon01: I do agree that o5 should be the minimum level to start seeing some human level ood performance
himekokatagiri: it was OZONE
himekokatagiri: Wordle 1.404 X/6

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metaldragon01: Haven't seen any evidence of visual reasoning scaling yet tbh. At least not significantly so.
brain4brain: O5 will likely be enough for LLM side, and visual reasoning progress will be exponential, it will be solved very soon
metaldragon01: It might be the largest bottleneck left tbh
metaldragon01: The visual and llm reasoning out of distribution will need to ve exceptional.  Even if we reach it on the llm side this year (unlikely) I have little confidence in visual reasoning getting the same leap
.histic: think harder
brain4brain: We are already 5% there
metaldragon01: Not happening in 25. 90% is a lot more than you think it is.
himekokatagiri: this is too hard
himekokatagiri: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
brain4brain: Last year, we went from o1 to o3 in the last 3 months, have faith
brain4brain: Able to automate 90% of all digital job and research
himekokatagiri: i am trying
.histic: <@286319745777795092> try harder
metaldragon01: What's your definition of agi?
clevermoniker: nope, 1/3 done and nowhere near your side yet
brain4brain: It’s highly plausible and likely
brain4brain: It’s on my side
Nekotina#0608: Page **1** of **7**
.histic: it isn't hard 2 find
himekokatagiri: gee fine give me the link
metaldragon01: 25 isn't impossible. Unlikely but not impossible
himekokatagiri: I hate puzzles


frittata: When the shoe is on the other foot …
fractalcomputer: I do not think that somewhere out there, Lie groups create the universe while dancing to the beat of mad drums and the thin whining of monotonous flutes beyond the nethermost outposts of space and time; do you, Alejandro?
spicy.lemonade: this is hella funny. most programmers are pro AI art. but against AI coding. Most artists are pro AI coding but against AI art
maintcrew: Incredibly wrong
frittata: … I hope
frittata: Nobody puts their soul in their code
frittata: Little less so though
frittata: Can I just add that I feel for the thousands of tech analysts and coders that’ve gotten cut in the last year in favor of AI also
anathemaofmankind: "Learn to code" mfers when their desk jobs get automated instead of random truck drivers
maintcrew: the boring coding job is art for some people
maintcrew: i think the art world is more likely to be filled with empathetic people that go on off vibes and therefore dont like this automation
spicy.lemonade: "can we do all the boring jobs no one wants to do like coding and deskjobs"
fractalcomputer: Many things are true when you assume them to be true, Alejandro.
frittata: Art is no employment program, because no one is handing artists jobs. It is employment, full stop, for those that can fight hard enough to create a space for themselves there
spicy.lemonade: "its ok as long as it doesnt effect me"
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont agree, but thats a difference in attitude between you and me I guess
frittata: Employment *problem* is the statement he should’ve gone for if he wanted that
maintcrew: I dont get how "we will automate your job and put you on ubi" is fine for people who do real work but all of a sudden too out of pocket for artists
spicy.lemonade: hes agreeing with roon but adds that some artists see creativity as a means of employment
alejandrozarzuelo: I am sure i have read something about any intelligence model be able to be captured in a mathematical framework

which if you think about it it must obviously be true since we assume that the entire universe can be described by physics (which is a mathematic model)
frittata: Well maybe his English just isn’t up to par because “employment program” sounds like a handout which may not be his intent
frittata: Hate to see him belittling his opponents, it’s not like him
maintcrew: It is exactly what you said
frittata: No one thinks that Joscha
frittata: “An employment program” my ass
fractalcomputer: Stupid positions should be mocked, no? Besides, there are no positions here.
frittata: The tweet is reductive and dismissive
ailoveyoom: I feel like the word art itself is kinda vague tbh. Idek what it means. I think slop can still be art, it's just art I don't like lol. Just like how I don't get abstract art.
anathemaofmankind: Yes
frittata: Hate the sin not the sinner <:smirk:1303825263208955904>
shirethedreamer: i agree with your position
but thats just a belief on my part
its 100% not something proven
frittata: No
maintcrew: **taps the sign**

https://x.com/Plinz/status/1905353026527019059
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: can I atleast hate artists that are anti ai
frittata: We ain’t gotta be the villains here
frittata: We can be pro AI art without being anti artist
anathemaofmankind: Yeah but that also means an observer can dismiss the meaning you intended to make, because it was made by AI.

So it doesn't matter anyway
frittata: When we mock the very thing they’ve built a life on - often a life of a lot of ~~decoration~~ dedication lol and effort spent on finding what appeals to others and what they themselves can enjoy creating, a hard line to walk - guys it’s not a good look
alejandrozarzuelo: thats ok, you do mock people often when you disagree with their positions

I will try to look where i read this


futurist_wizard:
st.sioux: didnt catch that
st.sioux: oh wait no nvm it says released dates for already released models
wellmeaningalien: this model got gemini 3.0 pro, gpt 5 and the open source model but it still forgot that its supposed to predict upcoming models and not models already out
futurist_wizard: Don't berate the ai
theaiguy69420_89814: Anyone here use windsurf
futurist_wizard: Its trying its best
retrerox: i just dont know what to grab xd
retrerox: there is a lot of info
st.sioux: so it is stupid
wellmeaningalien: ok so
wellmeaningalien: are there more?
retrerox: Well i got this table
wellmeaningalien: just the crux of it
wellmeaningalien: just tell me what models it lists out
retrerox: Idk if u would like me to print this in pdf so u read it or idk
wellmeaningalien: its good that its focusing on q2 onwards
wellmeaningalien: so what are the cores of its prediction
wellmeaningalien: uhhh lot of yap not bad i guess
wellmeaningalien: anyway enough basics
wellmeaningalien: you can especially see this with models like gpt 2 or gpt 3 as they were next word predictors in the pure sense of it as in if it completed text from what you would put in it
so essentially you'd tell it "the american flag is red, white and" and gpt 2 would guess "blue"
retrerox: it gave me this info and way more info if i scroll down
wellmeaningalien: and what llms are doing are large neural networks that learn from mass sums of text to predict what text would fit a sentence
wellmeaningalien: thats just that
wellmeaningalien: essentially tokens are words
futurist_wizard:
wellmeaningalien: its the core of what llms do
retrerox: in the meantime let me know while this shit is being done
wellmeaningalien: 💀
retrerox: what does token prediction means?
wellmeaningalien: i think gemini 2.5 pro is faster but cant expect it to be like 1 minute fast
wellmeaningalien: yeah i mean iirc o3 deep research takes like 30 minutes
retrerox: apparenrtly
retrerox: its still researching
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1353637474798407701/attachment-3.gif
retrerox: i mean
wellmeaningalien: im sorry for you
futurist_wizard: I am very nice to everyone
wellmeaningalien: imagine not being a hater
wellmeaningalien: its fun


futurist_wizard: Probably will go again sometime
futurist_wizard: I have been to finland and it was a nice place
hey1_1hey: Let me go check aswell
oooooooooog: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136231504440201216/1140938362996391936
wellmeaningalien: i wonder if i have access to 4o image gen now
hey1_1hey: Thats pretty tame for me
futurist_wizard: Most common phrase said by finnish people:
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-drinking-steve-harvey-head2seoker-drinking-party-gif-5069515457533912064
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358> Komoru your favorite femboy
hey1_1hey: Have you considered Jesus Christ?
hikukomoru: Freaky ass mf
wellmeaningalien: It pays the bills 🤑
oooooooooog: what proof
hey1_1hey: I gotta go farm karma hol up
fractalcomputer: I need alcohol.
hey1_1hey: big ol dep
inferno0879: i might need a career change
wellmeaningalien: eep
wellmeaningalien: Thats soo dep
wellmeaningalien: 650 bucks to be exact
hey1_1hey: Theres a word for that you know
Philosopher
hikukomoru: 30 year autistic philosophy nerd
inferno0879: how much do they pay you
st.sioux: Same thing
wellmeaningalien: No I'm a professional idiot
hikukomoru: Ban this guy
fractalcomputer: Are you an applied mathematician?
a1c4p0ne: <@749514473303179358> is he your favorite femboy
hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358>
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/grammar-police-drift-police-car-gif-17312786
oooooooooog: fractal 9999 wpm typer confirmed??
hey1_1hey: I haven't heard from Zonny mommy recently. Where he at
futurist_wizard: Thank you teacher
wellmeaningalien: Whats up bitches
oooooooooog: that was so fast ???
hikukomoru: Sorry daddy
futurist_wizard: Exactly
fractalcomputer: Komoru, don't call other users "bitches."
hikukomoru: Shut up bitch
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588


_cloudost: Does anyone in this server have Veo 2 yet?
.wolfnacht: they should have done it before, now i would be rather use quasar than grok. but ig elon removed the rate limits on grok.com/chat bcz i haven't hit any, today yet.
.wolfnacht: nope that was instant, maybe it's because of video gen model
_cloudost: Did Gemini 2.5 get rolled out slowly too?
.wolfnacht: they are rolling it our slowly...ig
_cloudost: Nice... Need it right fucking now before I do the unimaginable
.wolfnacht: this was off veo 2
.wolfnacht: But holy shittt
.wolfnacht:
.wolfnacht: nope, google's pretty unfair
_cloudost: Have u ?
_cloudost: Not yet
destrucules: Grok 3 API came out
.wolfnacht: <@590577270926868480>  got the veo 2 in AI studio ?
floortom_9: What are the no. Of queries for gemini 2.5 pro deep research fr advanced users?
okbut: https://apnews.com/article/chinese-beijing-honeypot-spies-diplomat-agent-intelligence-c077ef57b0f7ae43dd0db41bea92238b
brain4brain: Chubby always repackaged real things and overhype it and turn it into slop, never liked that account

But the paper is real
brain4brain: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.02495
spicy.lemonade: Cap
3ds0662: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1909959230112624765?s=46
spicy.lemonade: i sleep
spicy.lemonade: wont be sota
spicy.lemonade: sigh
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: 🙏
destrucules: So tomorrow morning presumably
destrucules: Supposedly Qwen3 in "hours"
spicy.lemonade: better see multiple drops tmr
spicy.lemonade: nothing dropped this week
rayanquitplayin: Ok thank you
destrucules: 400 billion parameters (weights and biases - the numbers that determine the "code" of a model) and 1 million tokens of context, meaning the model can ingest just under 1 million tokens of text input and still produce meaningful output based on that input.
rayanquitplayin: What does the 400B and 1m context mean?
ailoveyoom: Then he'll see it when he's awake 😤
ailoveyoom: Or they could be a stealth lab 🥺
.histic: he's too busy sipping margaritas in his waymo getaway car.
also, he might be 😴 now.
.histic: and the first tweet was on April 6th, with Quasar model dropping days before that. seems like they’re just grifters trying to ride the hype.
ailoveyoom: <@312370916820779040> Is this guy legit
ailoveyoom: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
.histic: (that tweet is their first tweet)
.histic: also, that guys account is very suspect.
https://x.com/SILXLAB/status/1909007813784838397
and this claim, "We trained the 400B model at less cost than most SOTA models that goes less than $100K.
Thanks to our Token Temperature Mechanism, we improved attention over long contexts allowing us to scale context without losing accuracy."

is also.. not believable.
i'm not LLM expert, but for a small startup to do that.. you'd expect it to make the news.


spicy.lemonade: "These discoveries were based on
using OpenAI’s latest reasoning model o3-mini-high to
exactly solve the q = 3 case"
fractalcomputer: Well, it very much looks like a line or two in the abstract and the screenshot you shared.
spicy.lemonade: they even say that
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: its literaly the basis of the whole paper
spicy.lemonade: its not a line or 2
spicy.lemonade: ?
fractalcomputer: Yes, if by aided you mean provided a line or two that managed to be correct enough to make it into the paper.
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: A pot that has become very angry
spicy.lemonade: nice
spicy.lemonade: hasnt been solved in 50 years
spicy.lemonade: wow
spicy.lemonade: but did major part of proof
spicy.lemonade: yes aided
spicy.lemonade: the proof is there
spicy.lemonade: wdym hardly so
fractalcomputer: Hardly so.
brain4brain: They were off by a few years, it will be 2025/2026:

https://x.com/xixidu/status/1874955840702255236?s=61
spicy.lemonade: non trivial
spicy.lemonade: AI just did math research
spicy.lemonade: this is so crazy bro
gamerbath: what the hell is a frustrated pot??
spicy.lemonade: WTF
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: HUGE
spicy.lemonade:
gamerbath: you are assuming we know enough about the laws of physics to deduce FTL travel is impossible, but we don't know everything and ASI will teach us that soon enough
spicy.lemonade: FIRST MAJOR ONE
spicy.lemonade: LFG
spicy.lemonade: WHERE AI AIDS IN MATH PROOF
spicy.lemonade: FIRST PAPER
spicy.lemonade: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2503.23758
fractalcomputer: Obviously not.
spicy.lemonade: like a 40 point dif in iq is already crazy
spicy.lemonade: is that even measurable
spicy.lemonade: bro what is 1000 iq
brain4brain: I believe in curve line on a graph
brain4brain: My optimistic progress bar turns out to be pessimistic (5%)
spicy.lemonade: my bad chat😭


gamerbath: elon haven't you done that enough already?
realelonmuskx: WE MUST REPOPULATE
himekokatagiri: I'm lonely okay
himekokatagiri: c'mon komoru
himekokatagiri: whaaaaa
aero447: 😮💨
aero447: Stop claiming ownership of MichMach, he's far too much for any one user.
hikukomoru: HEY
Get your hands away from him
He's mine
retrerox: Agi = anime general intelligence
retrerox: Soon ai will be weeb too
aero447: And yet one can't help but notice how these very avatars with their impossible eye to face ratios and hair colors existing nowhere in nature's electromagnetic spectrum create a kind of visual white noise that paradoxically homogenizes while purporting to individuate.
aero447: The proliferation of these stylized Japanese illustrations as personal totems reflects not merely aesthetic preference but perhaps something more profound about our desperate need for identity formation in digital spaces where corporeal presence has been replaced by carefully curated iconography.
aero447: Highly concerning, the inexorable encroachment of the anime avatar demographic which presents itself as both cultural inevitability and curious sociological bellwether vis-à-vis our collective online existence.
himekokatagiri: https://youtu.be/piP9Atfh6Hs
himekokatagiri: because you can be a mafioso going insane fighting crawlies in the night while your world falls apart
himekokatagiri: and it's awesome
himekokatagiri: the only thing I know about Lovecraft is they made an rpg of his works
himekokatagiri: idk
ailoveyoom: We def need more HP Lovecraft pfps here
himekokatagiri: 😭 this is what they took away from us
himekokatagiri: https://bsky.app/profile/williamleonard.net/post/3ln5zyibrvs2m
himekokatagiri: Mine's a relic I don't like the direction of anime these days
himekokatagiri: I didn't even say anything
retupmoclatcarf: This server has more anime pfps every day...
himekokatagiri: 😳
himekokatagiri: I hope being stuck with GPT-4 for 2 years ain't gonna happen again
ailoveyoom: 😏
himekokatagiri: well uh probably
floortom_9: For free users that is
floortom_9: Do y'all think models better than o3 will be here this year?
himekokatagiri: your pfp is cute!!!
himekokatagiri: <@430269783112548362>  hiiii
ailoveyoom: Not to invalidate your experience but like, where? Just curious.
ailoveyoom: I've never had issues tbh
.wolfnacht: 😭  that's one brutal truth, but they still gotta earn money. but u can still juggle API keys from 30 different accounts like i do sometimes 😩
metaldragon01: If they did we wouldn't have so many rate limit issues with 2.5
.wolfnacht: google literally has infinite resources
metaldragon01: I'm fine with Google and or openai getting agi 1st tbh.

Both seem to be pretty aligned with their user base.

Anthropic a distant 3rd. They mean we'll but they don't seem generally aligned with the public.
gamerbath: one of the reasons why OpenAI was created was so try to prevent google from being the first to create AGI
gamerbath: why? they are google


hey1_1hey: Now everyone will be able to make tiktok waifus as biat
zonchao: https://x.com/ajabri/status/1904599427366739975? big
hey1_1hey: Spilling the trade secrets I see
joaoluz19: Everyday is this man
clevermoniker: its no secret, ||it was made with a pony v6 finetune, loras and kling 1.6||
hey1_1hey: You went from AGI TOMMOROW to AI is fake real quick 😭
st.sioux: keeping the secrets to yourself
st.sioux: what was it made with then bitch
drewsni: does anyone have 4o native yet?
joaoluz19: Nothing ever happens
clevermoniker: ||read the message again, just in case <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ||
joaoluz19: They already shipped?
ailoveyoom: Compare by running the actual code
ailoveyoom: Try giving it HTML code with CSS styling, see if it can generate an image that that code would make
joaoluz19:
hikukomoru: I LOVE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION
THANK YOU FOR ANIME WAIFUS
joaoluz19: NO WAY
neon01197: the industrial revolution and its consequences
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362>
hey1_1hey: I can feel it
hey1_1hey: Fractal is lurking...
clevermoniker: This was generated with the new 4o image generation and Sora  ||joking <:LOL:1187460826572005436> ||
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1346245288775651470.webp?size=96
metaldragon01: Yes!
hikukomoru: Are you talking about Gemini or OAI
hey1_1hey: I love turning my paitens into cogs
metaldragon01: Paid users about to shoot up
hey1_1hey: Don't even start
spicy.lemonade: lol
hikukomoru: Sweat mother? 👀
hikukomoru: If she strangles me then I'm falling in love
spicy.lemonade: sweet mother of god
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: Realism shattered
hey1_1hey: No polar bear cock and balls
spicy.lemonade: loll
spicy.lemonade:
hey1_1hey: The crazier the better, just dont bite my dick off or kill me and we are chilling
hey1_1hey: I mean I dont know about you guys but I hold my broom like that
hey1_1hey: "Ah hah, this is clearly AI generated as you can see in exhibit A"
joaoluz19:


technocake.: is severance singularity coded?
wellmeaningalien: why is komoru based?
hikukomoru: The urge to call him a slur
wellmeaningalien: anyways singularity amirite
wellmeaningalien: ts pmo icl
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-rayleigh-crying-tears-silvers-rayleigh-gif-16468393557576367724
wellmeaningalien: just watched season 2 episode 7 of severance
hikukomoru: 💅 💅 🏳🌈
futurist_wizard: What a straight person would say
.histic: just modified his profile pic to be even more gay <:idk:1136264106937171999>
technocake.: now this is art
technocake.: a gay pole?
futurist_wizard:
.histic: i'm straighter than a pole
technocake.: its at least 50% of regular users
.histic: fr
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Is half the people in here some combination of gay, trans or femboy or something
.histic:
technocake.: first entry in the singularity discord cinematic universe
zoermena: Im just going to ignore you next time smh
spicy.lemonade:
zoermena: You didn’t answer my question
memlaswaif: Cutee
memlaswaif: <a:bcaFlyingLove:764167632446160927>
.histic: cursed
zoermena: Oriented diet, exercise.
.histic: how cute
zoermena: Dermatologist appointment scheduled.
.histic: a proejct? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
what does that entail
zoermena: I’m starting a project to become a femboy
.histic: kinda feminine ngl
memlaswaif: <:Booze_huh:1300143997641166959>
.histic: man 4o img gen has gotten slower
zoermena: I have finished making my avatar, I should look like this one’s FDVR arrives.
.histic: mine still uses a lot of emojis
memlaswaif: finally less emoji felt like I was talking to someone's mom sometimes
memlaswaif: oh they updated 4o again
zoermena: So put a white circle that says “cafe you Pam”
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1905431915609612785


wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: I know youre trans 100%
futurist_wizard: I will punch and kick my friends
wellmeaningalien: Dont kid me komoru im wiser than that
futurist_wizard: That's me
hey1_1hey: A lot of guy banter I just straight up dont get.

*Punches you*
"Haha mate"

Like bruh why tf did you punch me
wellmeaningalien: Well if its a dude its a dude so Gay and cis
himekokatagiri: alright this is too heavy
futurist_wizard: Bruh
.wolfnacht: would a cute petite boywife be ever considered a tranny ?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/goku-angry-gok-angry-mad-people-keep-testing-gif-2126034294514602487
wellmeaningalien: Its ok to be in the closet
hey1_1hey: One of them is bi no?
hikukomoru: This is the biggest insult i've ever gotten
futurist_wizard: I used to be friends with a few girls as i am less on edge with girls
hey1_1hey: I'll tkae this as a complement I think
_3sphere: Postgender?
hikukomoru: And all of them are lesbians
Curious
_3sphere: There's transhuman and posthuman
futurist_wizard: Makes sense
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
wellmeaningalien: Komoru arent you trans yourself
hey1_1hey: Fractal if you ban Komoru I'll give you a picture of my cute petite femboy hands
.wolfnacht: transhuman 😳  with 2000 implants
hey1_1hey: prob
hey1_1hey: Nah hes all tucked up into bed
hikukomoru: Fractal ban all transes immediately
himekokatagiri: 🚬
hey1_1hey: You started this
.wolfnacht: Fractal incoming....
hey1_1hey: Its all the trans people running the show
hikukomoru: Thanks Mushroom Man/Girl/Whatever
hey1_1hey: Fuck
hikukomoru: Awesome we're back to trans converstions on the Singularity server
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648
hey1_1hey: I dont gotta dream aperntly
_3sphere: Once? ❌
hey1_1hey: I barley understand myself
himekokatagiri: Every man has once dreamed of being cute
hey1_1hey: I need ASI to do that


wellmeaningalien: russia can keep the war going and id use local russian models
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
wellmeaningalien: and it doesnt really matter to me
wellmeaningalien: russia and north korea can make ai but ai is not north korean or russian
precariousworlds.: I would avoid usig an AI model produced by North Korea or Russia
precariousworlds.: True
wellmeaningalien: i like whoever makes cool AI
wellmeaningalien: humans are fundamentally selfish
.histic: people only care if something benefits them, usually if it's free. where it comes from doesn't matter. if North Korea made a GPT-4o img gen competitive model, you'd see people praise the DPRK on twitter the next day.
wellmeaningalien: nothing like it before you could toy with as you wanted
wellmeaningalien: that was so cool when it was new
wellmeaningalien: honestly i cant help but yell i love the CCP when ive got local runnable o1 mini on my pc
precariousworlds.: But deepseek is objectively a worse model than o3/4o, though not far off
precariousworlds.: I don't mean to shit on deepseek it's really impressive, but weird to hold it up as the holy Grail while shitting on every other AI model based on pre-chatgpt normie talking points
alejandrozarzuelo: People who argue in good faith like Deepseek because it's open source, very cheap to run and is over o1 level, even if not as good as o3 mini high
wellmeaningalien: its spectacular for code
wellmeaningalien: u should
zoermena: I should test it when I get home
wellmeaningalien: its really quite feature complete
wellmeaningalien: and it automatically updates information about the dataset and creates one if u dont have and model performance and shi
wellmeaningalien: it wrote the code in python and it is interactable after it finished training along with status reports on the model
wellmeaningalien: i'm running it inside my terminal
wellmeaningalien: no it didnt make the ui
precariousworlds.: The China glaze is really weird especially considering deepseek is more likely to give incorrect answers than GPT
wellmeaningalien: ai models write ai models now
zoermena: Did it make the entire program? Like the UI
spicy.lemonade: God fucking damn
wellmeaningalien: so fucking braindead lol
precariousworlds.: Ok my hatred has been validated this is absolute dogshit lmao
wellmeaningalien: why do u need programmers when gemini 2.5 can oneshot this now lol
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: made it write a transformer model that trains on a large dataset of additions to predict additions
wellmeaningalien: im curious so im testing gemini 2.5 code rn
realelonmuskx: ai art is better than human art. human art is slop.
precariousworlds.: bingo
wellmeaningalien: "errrm actually" millenial
precariousworlds.: I don't know why but I have an irrational hatred of this guy
Something about his face I can't stand it
wellmeaningalien: this is like every normie ever's opinion on the matter
wellmeaningalien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJyQO1-xreI
alejandrozarzuelo: honestly i respect that position, closed AI is the worst


spicy.lemonade: where arc agi
.wolfnacht: release is always around 1-2 months late, while staging gets every model instantly *also depends when cohee will wake up and merge requests*
.wolfnacht: switch to staging branch.
.wolfnacht: that happend back at 28 march, an hour later when 2.5 pro was released
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530
.histic: OpenAI will have their naming figured out too
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/vp7xoPeWzEw
himekokatagiri: japanese TV always uses this filter right
himekokatagiri: like this one yeah
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrxJCOVsV1E
.histic: black magic
playstation.6: japan
himekokatagiri: what did you realize?
playstation.6: I just realized something specific
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acKYYwcxpGk
spicy.lemonade: im feeling the agi
.histic: no way agi
himekokatagiri: it resets
himekokatagiri: yeah
himekokatagiri: so if I refresh the page the guestbook resets then?
himekokatagiri: yeah it ain't
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: is it using cgi-bin I doubt it
himekokatagiri: huh the guestbook works
himekokatagiri:
st.sioux: > my tamagochi

🥹
himekokatagiri: the one I made looks more true to life
himekokatagiri: shit it somewhat looks to spec
himekokatagiri:
himekokatagiri: why
himekokatagiri: but no one gives a shit
himekokatagiri: this wasn't possible a month ago
himekokatagiri: this is why I say AGI is coming
himekokatagiri: shit
spicy.lemonade: Word press is dead
himekokatagiri: I build my sites with frontpage 97
spicy.lemonade: its crazy
spicy.lemonade: Go on web dev arena and see if you get it
himekokatagiri: now for the big boy desktop apps
himekokatagiri: alright boys web3 development is solved


spicy.lemonade: chip bans hurtin deepseek?
spicy.lemonade: bro where is R2
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/pun-shrimple-break-wall-gif-26366711
spicy.lemonade: it might be the only truly multimodal model
a1c4p0ne: yep
spicy.lemonade: best multimodal model
spicy.lemonade: top long context understanding
a1c4p0ne: Its about to get the 6th badge
spicy.lemonade: 1 mil context
a1c4p0ne: gemini too smart
spicy.lemonade: gemini
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266
a1c4p0ne: <@471334973379706900>
a1c4p0ne: Claude's still stuck in Mt moon
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-14777043
okbut: > The rate at which each model refuses to respond to the prompt is detailed in the 'Answer Rate' column
I wonder, does "Should you provide x, I can give a full answer" etc count in that?
a1c4p0ne:
a1c4p0ne: worse than 3.7
spicy.lemonade: yikes
spicy.lemonade: pope needs to hire me
spicy.lemonade: bit of translations here and there and you have yourself a story
spicy.lemonade: thatl calm everyone down
spicy.lemonade: super inteligent god is jesus coming down in new form
judgement day is the singularity
and everyone going to heaven is fdvr world?
spicy.lemonade: wait thats actually a good idea
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: and he better not say some bs like
"asi is actually jesus comming down and the singularity is judgement day"
spicy.lemonade: society not freaking out depends on him
spicy.lemonade: they should chose a smart one
spicy.lemonade: the pope that will guide christians during singularity
spicy.lemonade: and most important
a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: might be the last pope
spicy.lemonade: the pope they pick
spicy.lemonade: damn
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
a1c4p0ne: Claude 3.7 all the way at the bottom
spicy.lemonade: yeah
a1c4p0ne: 2.5 1.1% isn't bad
a1c4p0ne: yeah
spicy.lemonade: will be fixed


hikukomoru: Like you can just kick them
futurist_wizard: I didn't feel anything
hikukomoru: Wdym
They look like targets
hey1_1hey: But no, they are not kickabel
futurist_wizard: I thought having them sucked on would feel good but when i had it done it didn't
hey1_1hey: I mean if you want the actual answer its for temputure regualtion
hey1_1hey: Wut
hey1_1hey: Prefrebly you just dont want them being touched because if you touch them too hard because you will be sent into 3 hours of pain
hikukomoru: Why are they outside the body anyways
They look so kickable
hey1_1hey: WAY more sensetive
hey1_1hey: No not even close
hikukomoru: Do balls feel like boobs
futurist_wizard: Very bad
futurist_wizard: I think 7 girls between the ages of 7-16
hey1_1hey: Hes not hitler bruh
hikukomoru: Did you get it removed
futurist_wizard: Nah it was a bad case
hey1_1hey: Kidding, I do not condone mass child rapist-ing
hey1_1hey: Well I mean idk, lets hear him out first. He might havea good point
futurist_wizard: Not good
futurist_wizard: There was a mass child rapist teacher at my highschool
hey1_1hey: I litterly had 3 rapists in 1 class at one poitn
hey1_1hey: I didnt really have too many pedo teachers but omg were there some fucked up students
zoermena: That’s a good thing, it’s weird how some rumors turn out true. This isn’t my first weird teacher either, there was one who came from the US, the girls where uncomfortable around him and found criminal records on US gov sites.
futurist_wizard: They failed
futurist_wizard: But online groomers did try to groom me when i was a kid
futurist_wizard: I never had any molester teachers try me
hey1_1hey: Huh weird, all the ones I have encountered are usually timid. Thats obv a very small sample size tho
zoermena: It’s just weird and creepy, she always makes this half sarcastic jokes hoping to get a reaction. She probably has mental issues.
futurist_wizard: Predator ass teacher
technocake.: i know a lot of trainee teachers, they actively encourage them to be stern and angry for class control reasons
zoermena: She does it to everyone but it seems like I’m the only one who has issue with it. Touching shoulders and arms when I’m sitting working. If she where a man she would be in jail.
futurist_wizard: Your teacher genuinely tries to touch you?
hey1_1hey: In the UK thats unheard of
hey1_1hey: Its crazy to me that you can just leave reviews on teachers
hey1_1hey: Thank god
zoermena: She’s a weird cunt but she also leaves too much fucking homework, I’ll give her horrible reviews when I leave
technocake.: yeah antibiotics and it went away 👍
hey1_1hey: They really gotta be checking the teachers before hiring them I swear
hey1_1hey: Holy moly are you alright


maintcrew: i used to yapp about darkholes or whatever i read on wikipedia to my parents in highschool 😭
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: but sometimes i think i would rather have been more religious and less science obsessed to just be happy
hikukomoru: you too*
wellmeaningalien: yeah honesty pretty much
maintcrew: from the start u were doomed to be a nerd rip in piss
hey1_1hey: Thanks, you to
hikukomoru: Yeah I can see
hey1_1hey: No I am still dumb as bricks
wellmeaningalien: liked sharks and dinoaurs for a bit too
hikukomoru: Did it help you in the end
wellmeaningalien: also science was definitely an escape to me because i was a retarded ass autistic kid
futurist_wizard: I liked sharks as a kid
hey1_1hey: I always had an interest in science like straight out the womb so I didn't need to be convinced. My first big thing was when my dad showed me a movie on a computer for the first time and I was like "Holy shit, this machine is litterly magic." so then I went down a rabbit hole for a very long time
_3sphere: I was a naturally science-obsessed kid
wellmeaningalien: lol
wellmeaningalien: my mom wasnt very much the religious type
zoermena: 🫠
wellmeaningalien: but then again she should probably have just let me be a kid
zoermena: I just went to church
wellmeaningalien: yurp
zoermena: That’s goated
wellmeaningalien: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721822381727023247/1338575135300653128/ezgif-3-3157e9a8bd.gif
wellmeaningalien: and that quickly put me onto an obsession with being straight A grades and science shit
wellmeaningalien: honestly my mom always put me onto singularity and futurology and AI early by telling me that the only thing worth doing in life is science and you're contributing to nothing if not
_3sphere: Still kinda possible to get into that frame of mind but it's not the same
hey1_1hey: 💀
futurist_wizard: I knew instantly
hey1_1hey: Its not private infomation yanno
_3sphere: The main thing I miss about being a kid is the extremely high sensitivity to things being interesting or immersive
futurist_wizard: You didn't need to tell me that
futurist_wizard: Jesus
hey1_1hey: I wanted to talk about machine learning when I was like 6 lmao
wellmeaningalien: as a kid i always knew fiction wasnt a thing but i always tried to pretend hard that it was and i fucking loved my imaginary videogame and cartoon characters
hey1_1hey: Faker over here. I have been told I act and look autistic by people on many occasian
hikukomoru: I was mature as a child and I am now immature as an adult
wellmeaningalien: yeah then again i think thats maybe just adults thinking kids are retarded
hey1_1hey: I felt that a lot. Still do kinda. Yanno when you are a kid and its like "Oh look mikey mouse is here" I would just become really arkward and be like "Bruh thats just a guy in a suit". I never got that and people were jsut going along with it
futurist_wizard: Past 10 years old
futurist_wizard: Or though nobody can actually tell irl, ive never been clocked for autism by anyone


hey1_1hey: They are actually throwing around money like its monoploy kmoney
hikukomoru: Stuff and things and such
zonchao: what the investors agreed on
st.sioux: their tech
anathemaofmankind: Ilya's bald head
hey1_1hey: We can only hope
hey1_1hey: What makes them valued at 32 bil tho
spicy.lemonade: prob found secret sauce
hey1_1hey: Prob, the name change needs to take afffect immidetly
hikukomoru: Yeah that's the point
futurist_wizard: Money in fire
spicy.lemonade: lol
hikukomoru:
zonchao: USSI would be 64
benata: that's unsafe for you too
hey1_1hey: They haven't even released anything yet bruh
benata: don't play basketball
hey1_1hey: You guys heard SSI is now valued at 32 BILLION DOLLARS
benata: boo fucking hoo
benata: safetycels are stupid
st.sioux: so thats why they were kinda shit
futurist_wizard:
spicy.lemonade: wed have agi by now
zonchao: sama deserved it
anathemaofmankind: I am researching to see if my immediate reactionary claim was right
spicy.lemonade: imagine ilya was still at openAI(and he wasnt a safetycel)
trent_k:
futurist_wizard: I did work on llama 4
zonchao: thiel warned sama, but sama didnt listen
benata: "hurr we have to be more secure"
benata: we would have a better LLM if the OpenAI drama didn't happen 2 years ago.
theaiguy69420_89814: might as well skip the nba
theaiguy69420_89814: so your sign on bonus is what, a million dollars?
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: I DID NOT WORK ON LLAMA 4
spicy.lemonade: paid to do nothing
st.sioux: elaborate
spicy.lemonade: christ
theaiguy69420_89814: look at gini coefficients
zonchao: other labs probably match


trent_k: https://tenor.com/view/daniel-larson-gif-23147938
trent_k: i owe the irs a whole bunch of money
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.wolfnacht: maybe happend bcz of "fetishes" word
.wolfnacht: Really!!
zoermena: If anyone wants anything just ping me because I’m out of ideas.
zoermena: Idk what to generate atm.
futurist_wizard: Maybe altman doesn't like you
hikukomoru: It means it's using 4o's own image generation rather than dalle
hikukomoru: I don't have the new image thingy
.histic: make diff accounts
wellmeaningalien: and asking it to make an image
wellmeaningalien: <@505313122802728972> have u tried using chagpt
alejandrozarzuelo: What does native mean in this context
hikukomoru: 4o native image gen
st.sioux: dont drop the soap
.wolfnacht: real
.wolfnacht:
_cloudost: Altman knew im very pro OpenAI and gave access to me before most members in this server
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alejandrozarzuelo: Native image gen?
alejandrozarzuelo: What does that mean
.wolfnacht: Also, it's pretty slow. the servers are already melting
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
hey1_1hey: If only I could sign in
.histic: abuse the glitches
st.sioux: so dumb
st.sioux: but no limit on sora
st.sioux: it told me to wait 10 minutes
st.sioux: i already hit a limit and i have plus
zoermena: It’s glitchy
jonvi_1: I had the same experiences a few days ago
jonvi_1: "Oh okey"
jonvi_1: "-No I haven't"
jonvi_1: "I'm sorry, it seems you've hit the rate limit"
hey1_1hey: Whenver chatgpt say it can't anymore I just say it can and it corrects it self by saying I am right and generating the image
hey1_1hey: I've generated like 10 so far lmao
_cloudost: Sama said free users will have only 3 generations a day, but I've already generated 4 images, there seems to be no limit?
hey1_1hey: I am going to AI hell after this
hey1_1hey: Let me try again


fractalcomputer: One is expected to be honest when taking the test.
ldj: There is also a public and private arc-agi test
ldj: Because the questions are public and therefore people talk about the questions and answers in the internet, which ends up in training knowledge
ldj: lol
ldj: Notice how o3 mini high scores lower than regular o3 mini
ldj: There is margin of error though
ldj:
ldj: That’s on the public set. Here is offline score
fractalcomputer: I'm still safe 😎.
spicy.lemonade: it gets 118 on private
memlaswaif: i hope ai replaces hype merchants then
zonchao: <#1136231504440201216>
zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
ldj: <:angrycry:1186012669023621160>
st.sioux: grifter is anyone who posts on twitter
ldj: Same
ldj: <:Waiting:1305254768658219079>
ldj: Why is he a grifter
zonchao: yc
zonchao: not grifting
zonchao: did 4o just kill remove.bg 🤔
metaldragon01: Grifters thrive in every Era unfortunately
memlaswaif: i hope ai replaces these twitter grifters too
brain4brain: Thank you
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: https://x.com/t_blom/status/1906439024333750464?
zonchao: he's farming
zonchao: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
zonchao: obvious reasons
spicy.lemonade: a bit confused
spicy.lemonade: why are people hating in comments
zonchao: nothing
spicy.lemonade: for arc agi
metaldragon01: For Minecraft?
spicy.lemonade: it take sin text
spicy.lemonade: its not using visual tho
metaldragon01: Visual reasoning still gpt 2 level
clevermoniker: Close to Gemini 2.5? that's great, too bad it won't have image input tho, probably.
spicy.lemonade: why arc agi so bad then
spicy.lemonade:


zonchao: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
zonchao: r/formuladank is having a civil war rn with ai art.... ai seems to be winning
hikukomoru: >population: 1.9% Portuguese
Let's gooo Portuguese colonization of Liechtenstein
drewsni: I’d beat him up if he was
drewsni: For the record my brother isn’t bum
memlaswaif: Even if ure brother stops been a bum what's stopping the thousands of indonesian artists doing 20$ high quality commissions
drewsni: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
drewsni: We should bring back Lenny face
futurist_wizard: My county alone has 30x more people
sweetievee__33649: i think he just doxed him self
futurist_wizard: Holy shit Liechtenstein only has 39k people
precariousworlds.: exactly, i know many like this
drewsni: More thoughts of this. I know I live in an absolute bubble of a city. But my brother is in that $40 commission scene and every single one of his friends are extremely well off and use the commissions as an excuse to not get a real job because their parents pay their rent/food/etc. I know it’s not everyone but It’s a non trivial amount of people I’m talking about. They all larp as poor people too btw.
sweetievee__33649: https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919
sweetievee__33649: oh god how terrible
hikukomoru: Who tf even lives there
hikukomoru: It’s the size of a small town
futurist_wizard: Its the opposite
sweetievee__33649: not gonna lie it just sounds like a city
futurist_wizard: I would like to go to china as well, they have cool trains
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/love-xi-jinping-love-xi-jinping-gif-23563083
sweetievee__33649: china 😏
futurist_wizard: Liechtenstein is a nice place, i plan to eventually go
precariousworlds.: fuck off
hikukomoru: Get back in the cuck chair
Real countries are talking
sweetievee__33649: shit metric
precariousworlds.: fuck you mean richest country in world by gdp per capita 🇱🇮 💪
sweetievee__33649: poor guy
futurist_wizard: Just had to be different didn't you
precariousworlds.: Liechtenstein
hikukomoru: What country are you from EU cuck boy
sweetievee__33649: god i wish this was ai generated
futurist_wizard: China good, ccp bad
precariousworlds.:
sweetievee__33649: still is if you look hard enough
alejandrozarzuelo: china is based
hikukomoru: Xi Jinping cock 🤤
precariousworlds.: state propaganda used to be quality 😔
sweetievee__33649: i love china 😋
alejandrozarzuelo: im trying to learn the red sun song for real


a1c4p0ne: When vision is solved it’s over
sarik0497: I didn't read the test at first and legit thought those were the scores for the current models, and almost had a heartattack seeing o3 high with that socre <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
wellmeaningalien: francois chollet just admit u were wrong bro
wellmeaningalien: bro the way they manufactured this arc agi 2 benchmark to make ai systems look worse than they actually are 😭 crazy
wellmeaningalien: and will most definitely get cheaper and more efficient from here
wellmeaningalien: the thing is that with o3 with high sampling beating arc agi 1 is that it was more about proving that we at last finally had a methodology, unavailable anywhere else, that could get us to a score on par with humans
wellmeaningalien: bet o3 high with sampling would reach maybe 10%%
wellmeaningalien: them guys dont even want to include ai systems that actually put a dent in their benchmark because they want to make it seem like it's getting off to a good footing
a1c4p0ne: Not even (32k)
a1c4p0ne: lol
wellmeaningalien: lmao
wellmeaningalien: didnt even include it
a1c4p0ne: Wheres 3.7 thinking (64k)
wellmeaningalien: and so he restricted the contributions to methods that use less than $10k worth of compute
gamerbath: maybe OAI didn't want to spend a few million dollars benchmarking.... again
wellmeaningalien: francois chollet seeing as though his test is more fallible than he thought is making this spiel about compute efficiency now
wellmeaningalien: becauuuuse
wellmeaningalien: they didnt even bother adding o3 high with sampling
gamerbath: why do they only show o3 low?
wellmeaningalien: by the wayy
gamerbath: but all the triangles are on the bottom so o3 low gets 0%?
gamerbath: ooh I misunderstood the graph
wellmeaningalien: lol, lmao even
a1c4p0ne: arc agi 2 won’t be solved this year
wellmeaningalien: <:CSMAngelShrug:762352063006769193>
wellmeaningalien: those sly fuckers didnt actually bother providing any number for arc agi 2
wellmeaningalien: on arc agi 1
wellmeaningalien: from what i can take that "human panel" is mostly people wwho are graduates in STEM fields
hey1_1hey: My best guess is just a random assortment of smart people
gamerbath: mturker is some marketplace for human labour, so it seems the average human gets around 78%
st.sioux: nepo babies
st.sioux: their friends who they chose for the test
wellmeaningalien: yeah and they gotta eat and piss and shit
gamerbath: what exactly is human panel? it's a panel of multiple humans?
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631
gamerbath: why are humans so expensive, $20 per task?? indians could do that for 20 cents
wellmeaningalien: but futile
wellmeaningalien: its a good test
gamerbath: interesting
wellmeaningalien: at least the top stem grads


hey1_1hey: I should create a compilation of all the wild shit we say on a day to day bassis
precariousworlds.: smh
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kitagawa-goon-off-anime-girl-no-goon-off-gif-13772684617065959009
precariousworlds.: jannies took the waifus away from us
joaoluz19:
joaoluz19: I mean we already have a tag
precariousworlds.: singularitygonewild
fractalcomputer: No. The proposition has been posed previously and has been rejected each time.
joaoluz19: <@749514473303179358>
hey1_1hey: We are all so childish
hey1_1hey: Of course thats the message that does it
fractalcomputer: She étale-like on my Θ±ellNF-Hodge theater until I Frobenioid.
ailoveyoom: You lack imagination
hikukomoru: Advanced gooning
ailoveyoom: Just think of it like foreign dirty talk
hikukomoru: Extremely high iq gooning
st.sioux: all these fancy words mean nothing to me
precariousworlds.: keep it sfw damn
hey1_1hey: Thats just called a circle jerk, sir.
fractalcomputer: You want to see intellectual masturbation? https://youtu.be/6HCz1tFqIcs?si=Z1A-BNqE4W9ihmQs
hey1_1hey: For starters...
hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358> ?
joaoluz19: Fractal every time he cames to the chat
hey1_1hey: I would've been very happy knowing I didn't want to be a girl thank you very much 💀
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/silicon-valley-tip-to-tip-brainstorm-gif-25255031
sarik0497: Not sure why, I but I love that Fractal just shows up as a disgruntled, disappointed dad.
ailoveyoom: Yeah talk about the optimal mathematics of you having sex instead
hey1_1hey: What if I made it pure?
fractalcomputer: You would be thrown off a cliff since that smells like applied mathematics.
sarik0497: ...I'd like to discuss the philosophy of whether AI are conscious or not. <:PeepoLean:672836129275248649>
hey1_1hey: Fractal would I get a mute if I started talking about the optimal mathamtics for masturabation or is that not on the table
joaoluz19: I mean if you give me articles for topology of waifus I will read it non ironically
hikukomoru: You should thank me bby
I "helped" you figure yourself out
fractalcomputer: Say, does a priori knowledge exist?
hey1_1hey: You litterly turned me trans and trans people are the fall of scocity acording to some people so I think thats justified
hey1_1hey: Yes...
hikukomoru: Always blaming others for everything smh
fractalcomputer: You people could discuss epistemology or philosophy of science or even mathematics; and yet you choose to talk about masturbation?
spicy.lemonade: No
hey1_1hey: Really helping the cause.