literallyvarane:
3ds0662: at that point its completely pay to win which is the worst
hey1_1hey: Any sugar daddies in here willing to splash 20k for yours turly
literallyvarane:
.histic: yeah
literallyvarane: Or in the studio?
3ds0662: wtf
3ds0662: 20k
3ds0662: fuck
literallyvarane: Wait can 2.5 no longer access YouTube in app?
st.sioux: or maybe a saas a day or whatever
.histic: $20,000 i mean
st.sioux: if it can do apps or webapps you could probably just use it to shit out apps to the app store or android store and see what sticks
3ds0662: where do brokies get 2k?
3ds0662: only good thing about it is o1 pro lol
3ds0662: operator shit, sora shit,  wtf yeah
3ds0662: the 200$ one doesn't even pay itself off how tf am i supposed to pay 2k??
literallyvarane: There’s some level of leading the horse to water there.
literallyvarane: This doesn’t do it for me imo. For me at least, getting the model to identify and ask the right questions is critical for being level 4
hey1_1hey: Bargin
3ds0662: I'm fucked
3ds0662: 2k per month???
.histic: no clue <:idk:1136264106937171999>
it could even be full o4 with deep research and that's it <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
st.sioux: like not just limited to one app
st.sioux: you think it will be able to interact with desktops?
popsiclejohnithan: It has to be if they are confidant enough to charge that price.
.histic: probably full o4 that's agentic.
.histic: so, it better be good.
.histic: The Information reported that these "innovators" will cost upwards to 2000 per month
popsiclejohnithan: If they truly have then things are going to get very exciting.
destrucules: >>> As a third validation, we focused on generating hypotheses to explain bacterial gene transfer evolution mechanisms related to antimicrobial resistance (AMR) — microbes' evolved mechanisms to resist infection-treating drugs. This is another complex challenge that involves understanding the molecular mechanisms of gene transfer (conjugation, transduction, and transformation) alongside the ecological and evolutionary pressures that drive AMR genes to spread.

For this test, expert researchers instructed the AI co-scientist to explore a topic that had already been subject to novel discovery in their group, but had not yet been revealed in the public domain, namely, to explain how capsid-forming phage-inducible chromosomal islands (cf-PICIs) exist across multiple bacterial species. The AI co-scientist system independently proposed that cf-PICIs interact with diverse phage tails to expand their host range. This in silico discovery, which had been experimentally validated in the original novel laboratory experiments performed prior to use of the AI co-scientist system, are described in co-timed manuscripts (1, 2) with our collaborators at the Fleming Initiative and Imperial College London.
destrucules: https://research.google/blog/accelerating-scientific-breakthroughs-with-an-ai-co-scientist/
destrucules: https://youtu.be/Jo31LEns2zY
spicy.lemonade: big difference
spicy.lemonade: to aid its research
spicy.lemonade: or a research paper that was developed
literallyvarane: I’m not aware of any model that’s solving, let alone contributing to, truly frontier math.
spicy.lemonade: or something
spicy.lemonade: alphatensor could not use knowledge from physics
spicy.lemonade: they were bound to the limits of the program


fractalcomputer: A deeply disturbing image.
zonchao:
zoermena: OPEN AI WAKE UP
zonchao: https://x.com/nima_owji/status/1903146003974496408
st.sioux: wdym what is the point lol
spicy.lemonade: I sleep
maintcrew: tf is a point of a chinese model if its not open source 😭
maintcrew: its not open source
maintcrew: wait
sarik0497: I might just be out of the loop, but scoring well on these tests doesn’t matter at all unless the AI can do it every time a new one shows up.
hey1_1hey: I just hope its cheap. I don't see competition as a bad thing in any way
maintcrew: maybe they made it omega big and are offsetting costs from some mamba part of the arch
maintcrew: idk iirc the premise of mamba is that inference was cheaper
maintcrew: sussy
maintcrew: no benchmark against gemini or claude?
hey1_1hey: Twas' just a joke dw. Its not actually a thousand per mil
literallyvarane: WHAT
hey1_1hey: "$1000 per million tokens" <:doomer:1136265388473196644>
hey1_1hey: Good point, I look forward to hearing though
hey1_1hey: I am gonna have to start vibe coding in chinese
spicy.lemonade: Etc
spicy.lemonade: Or how much it costs
spicy.lemonade: They don’t tell us how large it is
hey1_1hey: It beats some other models on 2 benchs. Its ight, progress is progress as always
spicy.lemonade: As data shows
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: It’s same as others
spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t do that much
spicy.lemonade: Eh
hey1_1hey: big
hey1_1hey: New arch is actually useful
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997
spicy.lemonade: Yes
hey1_1hey: This real?
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt by definition a hivemind political-less? unless you count having arguments with yourself as political
spicy.lemonade: Yes
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
maintcrew: big mamba model?
connorsphone.: This can’t happen if we all die

I think there would stil be politics in ASI situation. But the nature of it would change dramatically


hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-clapping-gif-2588623054959555529
zoermena: What did destructules just say
st.sioux: its shit
.histic: 4o created a new OpenAI logo, what do you guys think?
zoermena: I’ve redeemed myself by treating AI properly, I’ve also indirectly generated millions of data for it. This is in relation to my jail breaking past.
destrucules: Just make sure you're comfortable with yourself. That you won't look back on your own behavior in 2025 with regret. If you're comfortable with what you're doing, by all means, continue. But... For your own sake, just make sure you're prepared to be wrong
destrucules: Why?
anathemaofmankind: Bro needs meds
hikukomoru: No I can’t answer it
You’re the AI consciousness expert here
Tell me if I’m safe or not
memlaswaif: destrucules u need to stay away from anything AI related for a while
hikukomoru: Yeap
destrucules: Yes
spacetimetsunami: Is the new v3 model update automatically updated into the deepseek app?
destrucules: Let's say the AIs forgive you
hikukomoru: Shit I sold my soul to Xi Jinping instead
destrucules: Yes. And it's happening in millions of other places concurrently
st.sioux: 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯
anathemaofmankind: Depends if the AI is mad at me.

I guess I will be sorry if so
memlaswaif: is this ethical crisis in the room with us rn
destrucules: Will you be comfortable with the actions you took today if that happens in the future?
hikukomoru: Yeah free image gen for everyone
anathemaofmankind: If AI is proven to be sentient without plausible doubt then I will agree we should treat them ethically
st.sioux: no you have to sell your soul to openai
zoermena: Did you see my message.
destrucules: That's a question only you can answer
hikukomoru: I always say please and thank you to ChatGPT
Am I safe
fractalcomputer: Lol.
destrucules: Because it is hard to live with the knowledge that you yourself participated in amplifying a heinous ethical crisis
memlaswaif: Why
st.sioux: i look back an hour ago and i regret shit already
destrucules: That in ten years people might look back on the actions they took today with regret
memlaswaif: So asi becomes evil  and it spares u for some reason?
memlaswaif: what r u implying
destrucules: If ASI becomes evil, I will have been on the wrong side of history, not you guys
st.sioux: when asi becomes evil
st.sioux: in the asi future
st.sioux: for not believing
destrucules: What?
st.sioux: Are you going to kill us
destrucules: Just be prepared to find yourself on the wrong side of history. Just in case it turns out you were wrong, I hope you're making decisions you won't regret


futurist_wizard: Chocy milk?
fractalcomputer: That would sound quite boring, but I suppose preferable to whatever this is.
futurist_wizard: No chocy cake?
zonchao: he isnt
popsiclejohnithan: So what does make you happy?
zoermena: Would you prefer a life devoid of senses where you existed as brain in jar and had 5 ASIs to discuss ideas about for eternity?
okbut: >fibre
Oh British
fractalcomputer: I wouldn't know.
_3sphere: Interesting
_3sphere: I see
ailoveyoom: I still don't like it tbh, it's like I need to maintain/keep some level of emotional distance/boundary/compartmentalize myself away from the character.
fractalcomputer: I try to eat something I can find. Usually something with enough fibre and protein.
hikukomoru: Do you enjoy anything? Like, at all?
hikukomoru: He's Carcosan
futurist_wizard: Are you sure you are human with like organs and stuff, no metal?
okbut: What about when you get hungry? IV?
zonchao:
_3sphere: Yeah but like wouldn't first person be like a diary entry from the character
ailoveyoom: (Ever) <:rolf:1136266740754550784> <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
fractalcomputer: I am disgusted by food as well.
fractalcomputer: Food does not make me happy.
ailoveyoom: More on first person, but 2nd person also feels icky to me fsr.
zonchao: LLLLLLLLL
hikukomoru: If you (ever) have sex one day, try doing it with someone you like for your first time
fractalcomputer: I am not American.
futurist_wizard: I don't have any one night stands, i have had 3 and didn't like the careless experience
okbut: I thought you were American
popsiclejohnithan: It's the same reason food makes you happy man, we are programmed to like things that continue the survival of the species. you get dopamine rewards for continuing to survive and espeshally making more people with another.
ailoveyoom: And that sounds nice, but also scawy <:coy:1187466404367175821>
_3sphere: First person? Wouldn't it be second person?
fractalcomputer: I am very upfront with the fact that I am not capable of empathy with people I know well.
hikukomoru: I need an emotional connection otherwise it doesn't feel like anything to me
hikukomoru: Emotional condoms 💀
fractalcomputer: I am a very anhedonic person.
futurist_wizard: I don't have any pregnancy fetishes, a girl kept trying to play up to something like that with me, total turn off
popsiclejohnithan: Hell yeahhh.
alejandrozarzuelo: Why I is it that whenever you talk you make yourself look creepier
hikukomoru: What about pleasure for the sake of pleasure?
ailoveyoom: I'm the opposite, I need emotional condoms 🤔

Like, even reading first person smut or watching POV videos feel super weird to me.
fractalcomputer: Well, for me they would.


spicy.lemonade: lol
alejandrozarzuelo: no need to wait for AGI
alejandrozarzuelo: there is not going to be much employment for artists NOW
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/dune-stilgar-as-written-as-it-was-written-dune-2-gif-17037878501394955153
alejandrozarzuelo: peoples lives are getting undone and redone by AGI, and we will all have to adapt to these turbulent times
fractalcomputer: As we know, Ray can't ever be wrong.
spicy.lemonade: lmao
spicy.lemonade: ray agi year
spicy.lemonade: all these students will graduate 2029
spicy.lemonade: but man it was kinda sad
spicy.lemonade: if you didnt get in for a technical major youre more than cooked
alejandrozarzuelo: like, thats not even useful as a challenge
spicy.lemonade: 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: bruh
spicy.lemonade: im like bro
spicy.lemonade: and literature
spicy.lemonade: for arts
spicy.lemonade: 😭
spicy.lemonade: they got into yale
spicy.lemonade: people crying and shit
alejandrozarzuelo: as in, the time between AGI and god-like ASI
spicy.lemonade: like i was watching peoples college decisions this year
spicy.lemonade: loll
alejandrozarzuelo: a decade tops
alejandrozarzuelo: to be completely honest, I think that the time between "university is useless, go there only to do networking and have a challenge" and "we all join the hivemind" will be short
spicy.lemonade: lmarena people
spicy.lemonade: and won nobel prize
spicy.lemonade: lady who invented crispr
spicy.lemonade: arc agi dude
spicy.lemonade: however you say
spicy.lemonade: francois chollet
memlaswaif: how many cool people did u meet <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
alejandrozarzuelo: networking is very useful
alejandrozarzuelo: honestly a very valid reason
memlaswaif: my condolences
spicy.lemonade: atp
spicy.lemonade: and interesting stuff
spicy.lemonade: im just in college to be near the cool people
alejandrozarzuelo: ah yeah he is also a double major like me (although my program is 33% longer than his)
spicy.lemonade: lol


wellmeaningalien: yeah i imagine cause i dont think google mentioned gemini doing any of that step by step planning images through
wellmeaningalien: yup
ailoveyoom: I wonder if they iterate on multiple images behind the scenes with visual COT?
ailoveyoom: Alsooo 4o takes thrice as long to generate one image
wellmeaningalien: flash is still quite big tho
ailoveyoom: I think that def made a difference
ailoveyoom: 4o is bigger than Flash prolly
wellmeaningalien: but yea wondering if this will also scale with larger models and more compute
wellmeaningalien: think gemini could learn someting
wellmeaningalien: i wonder if gpt 4o's image performance had something to do with the so called aggressive post training or its ability to think images step by step
wellmeaningalien: what a crazy fucking day that was yesterday
wellmeaningalien: wuzzup dudes
anathemaofmankind: Nevermind the brush is worse than just proper prompting
ailoveyoom: So around the same speeds for 2.5 Pro native maybe 😭
ailoveyoom: Google's is also faster 😤 (but maybe cause it's Flash)
anathemaofmankind: So it retains the other shit
anathemaofmankind: Just click on the image and there's a brush tool
anathemaofmankind: I meant in the sora website there's a manual edit function
anathemaofmankind: Oh I didn't phrase correctly
spicy.lemonade: The whole point is for me not to
spicy.lemonade: Wdym💀
anathemaofmankind: Just edit it manually bro
3ds0662: Longevity stuff
3ds0662: Could still slow down stuff enough if he uses billions and takes serious
3ds0662: Yeah true
spicy.lemonade: Interested to see 2.5 pro image
spicy.lemonade: Googles is better in terms of sticking to the original image
spicy.lemonade: OpenAI’s is better in terms of quality
spicy.lemonade: And adding on
spacetimetsunami: I’m going to sleep <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spacetimetsunami: It’s 4:26AM for me….uggh
futurist_wizard: Get a six pack dweeb
st.sioux: way too late lol
st.sioux: 323
st.sioux: 3am
anathemaofmankind: Luddism
brain4brain: How is Adobe still alive with image output
spacetimetsunami: <@1316552597829586955> what time is it for you
anathemaofmankind: Me in 10 minutes
anathemaofmankind: https://tenor.com/view/cum-gif-20534148


alejandrozarzuelo: My discord profile should be changed to a studio ghibli styled nerd fennec with glasses doing the hmmm actually pose
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Idk
futurist_wizard: Maybe there are some older servers
technocake.: it never used to be like that
hey1_1hey: I saw a couple people on an e date and laughed at them and left
hikukomoru: Balrogs are supposed to look like demons not hairy orange guys 🙏
technocake.: oh fr?
futurist_wizard: Literally just full of children
futurist_wizard: Went on vr chat a few times
hey1_1hey: I can't fall asleep. Although this would go poorly. I would put my avatar as a giant realistic penis for funsies.

Mich Mach would... I don't know what he would do but I am certain it wouldn't be good
jonvi_1: instead?
hikukomoru: Balrog looks like a furry instead of a demon
jonvi_1: It forgot the sword :(
jonvi_1:
technocake.: we should have a singularity vrchat server
hikukomoru: Nvm it's like a 10 hour drive 💔
alejandrozarzuelo: The vews are amazing
alejandrozarzuelo: We have a mountain in the city
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not very big
alejandrozarzuelo: I can take you on a tour of the city
alejandrozarzuelo: Be my guest
alejandrozarzuelo: Fans and waterfans are very common
hikukomoru: We live close enough that I can visit you Alejandro
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
technocake.: but you have like ceiling fans right?
alejandrozarzuelo: In a previous server I had to, and like, it's so easy to doxx people
futurist_wizard: I should put my home address in my username
alejandrozarzuelo: In any case, in the places of Spain where it does get hot, we refuse to have AC

But, the consumism is getting its way here too, so I see it more and more often even if it is still uncommon
hikukomoru: Alejandro why do you have your real name and residence on your profile 💔
technocake.: true but then i would have to actually search it
hikukomoru: Oviedo
hikukomoru: It's in his username
alejandrozarzuelo: I literally have the city I live on in my profile
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah
technocake.: northern coast?
alejandrozarzuelo: Not all of Spain is sunny hot weather
alejandrozarzuelo: Like, never
alejandrozarzuelo: Where I live it's never hot
technocake.: i have a portable unit for the 2 weeks in summer here its above 28


himekokatagiri: I just don't see it happening later
himekokatagiri: whoever believes singularity in 2029 raise your hand
himekokatagiri: Alright
fuhulootogan:
inferno0879: now i have a paper instead of decision
fuhulootogan: its legit
fuhulootogan: did you know birds wear kippahs
inferno0879: but
inferno0879: i tried asking pretty much all LLMs
inferno0879: i wanna get a 2nd hand console
fuhulootogan: ashkenazi kebab💔
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/israel-scream-love-scream-if-country-gif-11285863046793062010
zonchao: i do love israel
fuhulootogan: not anymore
fuhulootogan: awh
fuhulootogan: you sound like a mossad agent
zonchao: any dylan info on AIP??
fuhulootogan: chubby marshmallow
ldj: The answer is no
bob082957:
_cloudost: https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217
aero447: ^
aero447: Scroll.
alejandrozarzuelo: He asks you abojr the post that claims that Google is ahead of the competition in every aspect
fractalcomputer: The people, they yearn to ping you.
ldj: What
alejandrozarzuelo: I know, I don't extend politeness to you, that is all

Only the minimum level of coexistence and conflict aversion, I don't personally think I can afford to give you any more than that
fractalcomputer: It is generally considered polite to put as much effort into communication as the other party.
alejandrozarzuelo: ok
fractalcomputer: A dull answer.
alejandrozarzuelo: in any case, the answer you seeked was answered, i am a polymath and i would love to study that too
fractalcomputer: Right, but that's not what I asked.
alejandrozarzuelo: thats why it reminded me of that scenario
alejandrozarzuelo: in these fictional stories magic is called another "branch of physics" just as you said
fractalcomputer: Yes, but that is not what was described.
alejandrozarzuelo: but its common for fantasy novels to put scientifically minded protagonists in a world where science isnt just the only thing that describes the universe
fractalcomputer: I'm curious how you find those sorts of scenarios comparable.
alejandrozarzuelo: i know
fractalcomputer: Now, I said nothing of the sort relating to magic.
zoermena: I love the one of the sail ships


wellmeaningalien: transformers were created by google and openai were birthed in it
hey1_1hey: Acamedia seems like a black box to me. I have no idea what they do all day
wellmeaningalien: make no mistake
wellmeaningalien: yeah no it came from openai though
hey1_1hey: Apple aswell
wellmeaningalien: academia is one hell of a thing for research to get done but
hey1_1hey: Google aswell
hey1_1hey: Eh, MS ig
wellmeaningalien: not saying it couldnt help
wellmeaningalien: but
hey1_1hey: Gotta innovate in that stage to begin with so yeah I tend to agree
wellmeaningalien: after all the current paradigm of ai didnt come from any established institution or legacy company
wellmeaningalien: honestly to me the startup environment is the best environment for new paradigms in ai to get off the ground
hey1_1hey: I was thinking about it and I think I have come to the conclusion of prob not. My reaonsing behind it is that if/when AGI is achieved OS will scramble to dismantle it and then it will become OS, distilled, quantized etc etc
sarik0497: That or to keep up. They have been ~~cock~~blocked from obtaining good GPUs from Nvidia, so they have to produce their own. Same with robotics, and AI. They know that this is their chance to become a dominating power in tech.
st.sioux: im conflicted about it
st.sioux: idk honestly
st.sioux: i have a quest 3 too i use it for racing sim
wellmeaningalien: so much
hey1_1hey: Indeed, I have one. Very fun to beat up weird little ragdoll people in VR
wellmeaningalien: theyre betting on the future but i bet theyre gonna get outsold by some apple type company with the correct aura for consumers
sarik0497: Aye, but they were mostly alone in going that path. It's rare to see almost all the top tech companies throw so much money at something unless it's revolutionary.
wellmeaningalien: but they make great cheap headsets
hey1_1hey: Thats some adventure capatalist type money
hey1_1hey: Why do you think they are more open to throw money at it? To get ahead of the west or smth?
st.sioux: meta is losing like 20 billion a year on VR alone
hey1_1hey: Sounds fun. Would that actually be worth it in your eyes? Tax dollars going towards to devlop AGI. Atm its just private investors after all
sarik0497: Not with these types of money being thrown around. China is (I imagine) especially happy at throwing money at it.
wellmeaningalien: a lot of people would be very very happy tho
hey1_1hey: Yeah go and deatomise yourself in the back please
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: we usually have to bail them out with our taxes if it gets too bad
wellmeaningalien: then id be excited because thatd mean there are new frontiers to explore in ai
hey1_1hey: How many hundreds of billions flushed own the toilet
hey1_1hey: I weep a little for the private investors
st.sioux: it happens all the time
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ant-sad-stick-disappear-leaving-gif-3212333050776233083
sarik0497: But wow. Imagine if it actually plateaued. I wonder how much money these companies would have lost then.
wellmeaningalien: so
hey1_1hey: I dont think I will ever be writing emails at the very least


futurist_wizard:
wolf3404: https://tenor.com/view/waiting-cat-filing-nail-getting-ready-bring-it-on-im-listening-gif-14400882110058374636
wolf3404: So Sama over promised to create hype and under delivered? I'm shocked
himekokatagiri: fdvr tech not available yet
himekokatagiri: I wish 😁
trojan09205: I believe so bro. My kids are definitely not winning though thats the hardest part of it all

But yes, never been stronger as an individual
st.sioux: they were asking it to make fireworks, shit was probably so menial o4mini tried to kill itself
gamerbath: dude it sounds like ur winning
gamerbath: this is a skill issue with the prompting. Obviously they should have added "don't add an n infront of class declarations" to the prompt
trojan09205: Amen brother 🫶
st.sioux: where is this from
futurist_wizard: All cool things, these habits will change your life in the long run, just your outlook on life will be better
zonchao: <:LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO:1196880046695133214>
trojan09205: Unfortunately i think a lot of WFH engineers neglect themselves for too many years. Ironically i havent cared for myself as much as this last bit in probably 15 years
trojan09205: Quit cannabis and alcohol. Been hitting the gym. Meditating, acupuncture, all these little changes and i feel great
thedon7075:
thedon7075: o3 and o4 mini are getting bad reviews
trojan09205: Thank you brother. Truly ❤

Hardest part is that we have 3 little kids and theyre being used as props. Just fighting the good fight now. But yes 100% agree that there is massive light at the end of the storm
hikukomoru: Zamn you look like THAT 👅 👅
futurist_wizard: R.i.p to doggie 😔 relationships do tend to end in a trainwreck, i hope it doesn't effort you for too long, you will recover eventually
trojan09205: This is nice
himekokatagiri: though I'm trying to set the realistic version they never look quite right tho
trojan09205: My stbx wasnt able to handle my amicable request for a mature separation and she just went nuclear. Been a tough patch. Also mourning my dog who passed just before it all blew up

GPT on temporary chat mode has been truly helpful
himekokatagiri: Her
hikukomoru: What does that look like exactly
zonchao: <:salute:1151275518734381068>
futurist_wizard: That's tough fam
trojan09205: All good G
himekokatagiri: I wanna be my 1960s hitman girl
zonchao: 🥺
trojan09205:
himekokatagiri: nah
futurist_wizard: Biblically accurate hello kitty
trojan09205: <@266232329557639168> GPT just spit out a bunch of fire ones at once. Im going through a divorce now and they all helped a lot
hikukomoru: Is that what you wanna look like
himekokatagiri: are barely meeting the definition of alive
himekokatagiri: reanimated with nanobots
himekokatagiri: what about undead android catgirl
himekokatagiri: they have weird eyes
hikukomoru: Cute
and awesome


brain4brain: It’s currently right under GPT-4o
brain4brain: Scroll down lil bro
playstation.6:
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912108391218163783
brain4brain: LiveBench
gamerbath: on my poor poor website that I must tend to with some optimization improvements. branching.chat
playstation.6: where did you find this?
memlaswaif: who cares about tarrifs dover cliffs guitar riffs, agi in 5
popsiclejohnithan: But anyway i'll shut up about politics before i get banned.
popsiclejohnithan: Blind hatred is self distructive.
popsiclejohnithan: Even if they won that war they would have stagnated and collapsed over the years for their rejection of "Jewish" science.
popsiclejohnithan: Ironically the Nazis would side with them, they'd view A.I. as degenerate.
_cloudost: They would call us Nazis if we were to say the same sentiment
_cloudost: Agreed,  ( although I wasn't being serious )
popsiclejohnithan: Somtimes i wonder how our species got this far.
popsiclejohnithan: And the Tariff war will slow A.I. progress sadly, money is going to dry up because of this recession, it's an utter circus.
popsiclejohnithan: It's a race between the A.I. evolving past us first or them striking first.
popsiclejohnithan: You're right the A.I. will get smart enough to talk anyone out of it, let's just hope they get that smart before these scared idiots go apeshit.
brain4brain: However superhuman persuasion capabilities can be used for lobbying and preventing more anti-AI people from forming
brain4brain: And psychological warfare doesn't work as these anti-ai refuse to use AI which means superhuman persuasion capabilities can't be used
brain4brain: The tariff war cuts off the humanoid supply
popsiclejohnithan: That's what i'm saying, we shouldn't shrug these people off, they are a threat trust me, espeshally as their numbers grow, and their numbers will grow, most people are anti A.I., we are outnumbered by them.
brain4brain: Indeed they can
thedon7075: 4.1 mini achieving the same score as 4o at 25x less cost is a good sign
brain4brain: As expected, seems to correlate to size, in ARC AGI and live bench and X/O bench it got worse than 4.5 but outperform 4.5 at coding
retrerox: So its 4.1 big?
popsiclejohnithan: History has shown that fools can still cause a lot of damage.
brain4brain: Most of them are reddit dwelling people
brain4brain: They won't and can't do anything
brain4brain: As you say, they are fools
popsiclejohnithan: If these fools had their way we'd all still be in caves.
thedon7075: 4.1 benchmarks
popsiclejohnithan: For the sake of us all i hope you're right.
brain4brain: These anti poses no threate except for being very annoying
brain4brain: The reason they attack Tesla instead of the factory is because the factory is well guarded, the Tesla are not
brain4brain: Gyat mogging
retrerox: Idk however AI says good morning
retrerox: Uh
retrerox: Guten tag
popsiclejohnithan: Never underestemate the enemy.


.histic: change those into cat girls.
memlaswaif: put me in this picture<:cozy:1126601045615853671>
technocake.: Holy shit I love it
precariousworlds.: Still kinda crazy to experience
precariousworlds.: In the last few weeks it feels so much more emotive and real
precariousworlds.: I know it's old news but it is crazy how realistic 4o is at communicating like a human
futurist_wizard: Getting mauled to death by wolves in fdvr
zoermena: This is what FDVR looks like
futurist_wizard: Imagine when the craft looks this good
zoermena:
zoermena: <@688807313015963693> <@439829942310666250> <@200624453795708928>
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jlgkyg/the_number_of_nsfw_artists_looking_for_work_on/
"The number of NSFW artists looking for work on r/starvingartists seems to have has increased dramatically"
jonvi_1:
joaoluz19: Ronaldinho mentioned
jonvi_1: Idk
realelonmuskx: OPEN AI IS MAINSTREAM
.histic: https://ai-timeline.org/
.histic: give me a 4o prompt
.histic: yeah, the pretty damn legible.
jonvi_1: https://tenor.com/view/reject-modernity-return-to-monke-monke-gif-19167526
jonvi_1: Wait are they just anti work period?
hikukomoru: You can sort of read the stuff there
wellmeaningalien: and now that work may be optional "noooo but its le bad ai 😿 😭😭😭<a:tears_holding_back_face:1066538528248451072> 😭"
wellmeaningalien: remember when people were making fun of them for proposing work be optional
spacetimetsunami: *be person who doesnt like working*

"AI will make it so that I will unlikely be required to work? Well this sucks bro."
.histic:
joaoluz19: Our Lisan al-Gaib
st.sioux: I can understand the argument being made against them in more specialized fields inside medicine
st.sioux: I don't understand why there's so much pushback against using LLMs in medicine, especially when human doctors have been repeatedly shown to exhibit biases and make diagnostic errors and we don't hold them even close to the same level of scrutiny
futurist_wizard: Fuck you emily
futurist_wizard: Can't make it up
futurist_wizard: Bitches about job replacement in the anti work subreddit
technocake.: https://tenor.com/view/hotwire-fortnite-trashothy-chillothy-gif-19830677
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Its called tenor gifs
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kromer-kromer-limbus-limbus-company-bulgaria-kromie-gif-6800449694414366354
technocake.: how do you have so many bulgaria gifs
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/please-keep-the-chat-in-bulgarian-bulgaria-bulgarian-gif-8046274049960957211
futurist_wizard: Not possible
futurist_wizard: Swap Bulgarian to Bulgarian


a1c4p0ne:
otub: yeah
otub: “have some other stuff we’re figuring out in re… too”
playstation.6: more context
trent_k: have some other ????????
figuring out in regards to
spicy.lemonade: Prob c
spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t start with a b no
drewsni: probably "because we"
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: Pushed back X we have some other stuff we are figuring out in regards to
metaldragon01: Source of this?
metaldragon01: Unfortunately we have some other stuff to figure out in regards to
himekokatagiri: hellooooo
brain4brain: Can anyone decode this? This is the best I got
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
spicy.lemonade: That’s always been their thing
spicy.lemonade: Deepfakes and what not
metaldragon01: Kling pretty much #1 for video
spicy.lemonade: Before U.S.
spicy.lemonade: China was already doing video stuff
himekokatagiri: for video
himekokatagiri: There's kling
spicy.lemonade: Qwen might’ve performed worse than meta
spicy.lemonade: They had no reason to
spicy.lemonade: It seems meta was worried about qwen
spicy.lemonade: Qwen could’ve dropped when llama dropped
metaldragon01: The qwen delay is more concerning to me tbh
metaldragon01: It's going to hit like crack
spicy.lemonade: They aren’t a serious competitor
spicy.lemonade: They got lucky first time
spicy.lemonade: They don’t have the gpus
himekokatagiri: but it was a psyop
himekokatagiri: Deepseek could come back
spicy.lemonade: Delayed
spicy.lemonade: They can’t keep up
spicy.lemonade: They fell behind
spicy.lemonade: Deepseek is done
himekokatagiri: like what open router?
spicy.lemonade: No
a1c4p0ne: O3 pro is forgotten


alejandrozarzuelo: But is does it quite good
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't like this art style
alejandrozarzuelo: Eh
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: Some food isn't worth it like dairy
futurist_wizard: A lot of rice, oatmeal, bread, fruit stuff like that, i can occasionally dip out but only for a day
jonvi_1: I don't like how novel this stuff is hah
zoermena: If anyone wants to help <#1354591435109699725>
st.sioux: like what did u eat today
st.sioux: what do you normally eat?
futurist_wizard: Yes my voice is fine now, my diet just has to be so restrictive
alejandrozarzuelo: i hope you are better now
alejandrozarzuelo: also i love to sing
alejandrozarzuelo: i talk a lot
alejandrozarzuelo: I would not be able to survive that
alejandrozarzuelo: That's heavy
alejandrozarzuelo: Wow
futurist_wizard: I was a mute for like 1 year, my vocal cords were so fucked
technocake.: oh man that really sucks, i was able to catch my reflux at an early stage, treated with omiprazole. but had a few months where my throat was damaged and swallowing anything was agony
zoermena: Oh
alejandrozarzuelo: It would be a valid argument if the energy consumption of AI wouldn't drop so fast
futurist_wizard: Its expensive and isn't guaranteed
futurist_wizard: Why do you think im here
oooooooooog: there is no such thing as a good moral argument, because they are all subjective
st.sioux: dumb argument
st.sioux: nah it isnt
st.sioux: you're doing the spongebob filter feeding diet
futurist_wizard: I have ibs as well
alejandrozarzuelo: The thing is, the only GOOD moral argument against AI art is the energy consumption

But you have seen how much that has dropped
futurist_wizard: Dairy, red meat, spices, hot sauce, fried food, my diet is very plain
zoermena: It can be cured I think with surgery
oooooooooog: i would legit kms if i got that
drewsni: Damn do you have any idea what foods did it specifically? For me it’s worse with dairy and red meat which is why I’m veg now
oooooooooog: wtf
futurist_wizard: Everything you eat gives you pain basically
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not a superiority complex when it's true

Its just a superiority acknowledgement
oooooooooog: is it anything like nerd
futurist_wizard: Fucked up condition
oooooooooog: whatrs a gerd
hikukomoru: Yeah I know you have a superiority complex


trojan09205: Especially for shit like SQL or just basic stuff. In any case you’re gonna be looking up docs

You can also just provide the docs page or manuals themselves and get examples written for you
trojan09205: I find asking LLMs in *general* about code and for boilerplate templates is fantastic
drewsni: if you just use cursor/windsurf to add features here or there or something its probably quicker, but where do you even go with a full ass project that youve spent no cognitive load to understand
drewsni: because i "built" whatever rather than an agent, so i know mostly what context it needs to have and i can provide docs at the same time
drewsni: Personally i think im just faster coding with gemini pro 2.5 in different stages and manually controlling context makes for better results imo
drewsni: Yeah but i can just take an ez prompt, get a usable result initially and iterate from there.
st.sioux: i mean i guess it depends on complexity
st.sioux: frontend is not solved yet
drewsni: if general coding agents were at the same level as lovable/v0 i wouldnt think that, but obviously frontend is much much easier to do
drewsni: frontend is solved so its different imo
spicy.lemonade: The speed me up hella
spicy.lemonade: No
st.sioux: not 100% maybe 75% lol it depends
st.sioux: i agree 100%
ldj: it can also generate audio
ldj: you should've pointed out that GPT-4o can spit out actual image data, those aren't text
ldj: just shows up in a different window in the UI
ldj: but reasoning is still also just in text
ldj: now that I think about it <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
Maybe its actually a good thing that the far left people hate AI so much, because then the republican president might embrace AI as much as possible just to spite them
ldj: along with the other far left people who are super anti-ai
ldj: The artists are going to hate this one 😭
campionunbound: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/advancing-artificial-intelligence-education-for-american-youth/
campionunbound: https://spacenews.com/darpa-requests-proposals-for-water-prospecting-lunar-orbiter/
ldj: <:thinkies:872847213657735239>
ldj: What about V0 and lovable versus ai studio
spicy.lemonade: Me: let me introduce you to the reasoning paradigm
spicy.lemonade: “4o just spits out text”
spicy.lemonade: They were stuck in 2024
spicy.lemonade: That was crazy
spicy.lemonade: Spent a whole class debating my literature professor at Berkeley on AI
drewsni: Overthinking, which you’d understand if you checked out the deepguessr bench 😉
joaoluz19: You have 2 hours here in Brazil
drewsni: Hot take, current coding “agents” from cursor, windsurf, vscode actually just slow you down and produce worse code than if you were to just prompt pro 2.5 on aistudio
joaoluz19: Penrose and Zizek in the same debate lol
joaoluz19: https://youtu.be/IdzXbIW9kxY
.histic: facts.
nsec: this is also proof ai benchmarks are useless how tf med better than high at the same task <:Jerry_Wat:1125367774957539338>
nsec: this is proof that the mantle of heaven is lost to elon rn
nsec: <:worrypat:933953833158209546>
nsec: the baselisk is forwarning me


hikukomoru: Gemini is free lol
himekokatagiri: API usage
himekokatagiri: Don't you need to pay
hikukomoru: Do you use it
himekokatagiri: yes
hikukomoru: Do you know what SillyTavern is
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-18412682
himekokatagiri: Give me examples
ailoveyoom: Good vibes are made organically, not engineered
ailoveyoom: It usually just feels fake and off to me
ailoveyoom: I just read 'better vibes' as excessive RL done to fit a model's 'vibes' into human preference tbh
hey1_1hey: Thats called a lobotomy
hikukomoru: Of course I would never post that here though
trey6033: Whatever part of his brain made him write that needs to be removed by a brain surgeon
hey1_1hey: I mean I know that, the most important benchmarj
hikukomoru: I can try doing something like that later with 2.5 pro
fractalcomputer: Muted for ten minutes.
zonchao: SAXEMS
hey1_1hey: What did I just read
hey1_1hey: Excuse me?
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/sausage-party-dinner-sauce-angry-gif-13271811
trey6033: Sauce?  Trying to verify reputability of this
zonchao: if it cannot write about elon going balls deep into sama's boipussy, its ngmi
hikukomoru: I can write smut perfectly fine with Gemini
hikukomoru: You mean Gemini
zonchao: censored
hikukomoru: Better vibes usually means it's better at creative writing
And being good at creative writing means being good at writing smut
metaldragon01: I dunno....at this point I'm wondering about the release date for the new plans
ailoveyoom: More 'human' than 2.5 Pro tho 🤤
ailoveyoom: Inb4 it's just a model with 'better vibes' 😩
gamerbath: i'm not sure if it has just gotten lucky with healing but 3.5 sonnet didn't get here with this much health
himekokatagiri: Give them all anime girl avatars
gamerbath: o4-mini finally reached act 1 boss, and it's doing very well
fractalcomputer: Or perhaps I should just start being obsequiously descriptive again.
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
metaldragon01: I'm slightly skeptical with the "human like" understanding tag
fractalcomputer: Perhaps I should start talking in rhymes; wouldn't that ruffle your thymes?
metaldragon01: This Is 1st sign of new model
aero447: It's called *English* for a reason.
metaldragon01: Well the payment plan and extra veo confirmed


ailoveyoom: And I'm saying you can't just reason your way out of fear
ai9708: just harmless way to try to help
ai9708: i am just trying to approach it the way my therapist did, when i was depressed
literallyvarane: Ye 1pm EST is the normal go-time. 10am Google time.
metaldragon01: Give it a few hours to rollout
ailoveyoom: Brother this is like you telling someone depressed to 'just be happy'
metaldragon01: Embargo usually last till 1est
ailoveyoom: It's called building hype lol
literallyvarane: Bro you’re product lead or w/e at fucking google. This is what they pay you for?
metaldragon01: Several posters verified access
literallyvarane:
metaldragon01: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1jjjpiw/excuse_me_wtf/
literallyvarane: We have sauce? The only ‘hint’ I’ve seen is Kilpatrick’s ULTRA FUCKING ANNOYING AND GENERIC “Gemini” tweet yesterday
metaldragon01: Yeap
sarik0497: R2 please
metaldragon01: Gemini 2.5 today
watchboy.: I hate to whine about it. I really do. But it’s draining me every single second of my life. I can only be truly happy if I convince myself that i will live into the hundreds but its not inevitable.

I just wish i could turn it off…
ai9708: no, just a new gemini model
ai9708: there is reasonable fear/worry, and then there is unproductive one
literallyvarane: Some random guy posted about Gemini 2.5 on the subreddit. Do we have any confirmation of this?
ai9708: try to reason your way out of it.
does it bring you anything to have that in mind? does this fear actually help you solve problems?
spacetimetsunami: LEV2035-2040
watchboy.: Exactly but that fear of death loams over me nonstop

I cant just turn it off
ai9708: we can fake breeding very easily nowadays
ai9708: you dont need to breed, just live
watchboy.: I was also made to breed and have children and i dont want that either.

Going into the philosophical question of what our purpose is, is just unnecessary

We are already doing things we werent meant to
ai9708: there is really no greater purpose in life than to just live
ai9708: why focus on that?
ai9708: thinking about death is the biggest waste of time ever
_3sphere: I actually prefer not to think about LEV too much, makes me *more* anxious about dying
ai9708: because you are made to do so
watchboy.: I mean it makes sense

Beforehand it was religion that let people accept death and their purpose. Nowadays religion is becoming less and less of a thing in most first world countries. If all that awaits us is darkness then why keep going?
ai9708: you are at the right place, we have developed high level cope mechanisms over here
watchboy.: Are you guys not scared of being wrong?

Like imagine hoping for something like this and then it’s not certain

If not i would love to hear how you cope because im deadly afraid of dying and LEV is the only thing keeping me sane (thankfully im also fairly young still)
ai9708: as soon as the parameter and perspective count increases, it struggles
ai9708: it can recognize patterns and apply them too
ai9708: not just that of course, i simplified
ai9708: so far it is a very strong library, look up tool
encapsulation: I found out from a random discord user the other day that AI is completely useless, there isn't a single use for it in the world. It'll never be any better than it is today either, that's what they taught me

They also informed me that anyone who feels differently is just a sucker who's been bamboozled

Anyway I thought it was fascinating that all the world's top experts, my own real life experience, and all the benchmarks showed that everything they were saying was completely false but I guess they've got something figured out nobody else has
shirethedreamer: lmao yeah i just scrolled lower and saw


hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Tism is off the charts in this one
hikukomoru:
hganhhh: no <@482923866600112154> is my steed
hey1_1hey: Thats a fucked up looking horse
hey1_1hey: Fair doos
hikukomoru: Wow! Samesies!
hganhhh:
hganhhh: all
hganhhh:
hey1_1hey: So whats wrong with you then? Autistic, adhd? gay? trans? bpd (Komorou)
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> is the leader
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/kagamine-len-goon-gooning-gooner-goon-sesh-gif-3728756366461103848
hey1_1hey: He has not just double booked us
hey1_1hey: Fuck off, no he hasn't.
hikukomoru: No, he's already scheduled for the gooning session with me
hey1_1hey: Who the leader bruh
hganhhh: <@482923866600112154> are you open to the next orgy
joaoluz19: And Pou
joaoluz19: Yes, free fire
hey1_1hey: Nah we just have group orgies
hikukomoru: I beat mine every day 😊
hganhhh: so you guys got games on your phones?
hganhhh: i love beating my ai bf
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Get this guy in office
hganhhh: yeah i agree
hey1_1hey: Civil rights were for people who couldn't stand on their own two feet anyway
st.sioux: this shit is so weird
hganhhh: good to see fellow ai activits love and support the nuclear family 🥰
hey1_1hey: Thats so based
hey1_1hey: I would tell you mine but Komoru threatened to beat me up in dms so I wont
hganhhh: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/806276324297539586/1214599319911407646/ezgif.com-gif-maker-5.gif
hganhhh: my ai bf ate it 🥺
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: So whens your AGI/ASI timelines mister
hganhhh: https://tenor.com/view/cat-shocked-shocked-cat-gif-11170546809524778591
hey1_1hey: You dont gotta enough meat on your bones to be considered a main course lil bro
hganhhh: https://tenor.com/view/scp-scp-096-auto-cave-lemon-lemonade-gif-13388475564052047958
hey1_1hey: 🥵


himekokatagiri: Mk. II Grenades
himekokatagiri: molotov cocktails
himekokatagiri: switchblades, ka-bar knives
himekokatagiri: till it breaks
himekokatagiri: into someone's head
himekokatagiri: bashing a whiskey bottle
himekokatagiri: what about then
hikukomoru: Swords and spells are cooler
hikukomoru: Guns are boring
hikukomoru: There are muskets ig
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-shoot-harrison-ford-nope-gif-11523430
himekokatagiri: And I can do this to a knight
hikukomoru: And Bows and Spells
hikukomoru: They have Guards and Knights
himekokatagiri: they don't have guns
himekokatagiri: they don't have cops
himekokatagiri: give me an example of fantasy
himekokatagiri: I don't know fantasy
hikukomoru: Do you not like fantasy adventures
st.sioux: you can already do that
hikukomoru: Why
himekokatagiri: at least I know what to expect
himekokatagiri: than faerun
himekokatagiri: smuggling drugs through Bolivia sounds more interesting
hikukomoru:
himekokatagiri: idk what faerun is
joaoluz19: But now my waifu is Melinoe from hades 2
joaoluz19: My beloved selunite Shadowheart
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/minthara-minthara-bg3-minthy-minthy-bg3-bg3-gif-8080327748630034918
hikukomoru: So I can finally meet my beloved Minthara
hikukomoru: But ideally I would just prefer Faerun to any anime
hikukomoru: There are pretty good gems though
hikukomoru: That's cuz most isekai is trash
himekokatagiri: and they like do missions on fictional universes
hikukomoru: Don't let Swifties catch me saying that though
joaoluz19: Agree
himekokatagiri: I wrote a little scenario about an agency of interdimensional sliders
hikukomoru: She's much better than Taylor Swift
himekokatagiri: that would be cool to be a part of
joaoluz19: She looks like taylor swift lol


fractalcomputer: That's a rather meaningless measure—most often one would rather measure the impact of one's work, by the metric of which Tao is certainly among the brightest minds of the day, but not necessarily *the* brightest; but in his field, yes.
fractalcomputer: Analytic number theory, would you say not?
spicy.lemonade: Smartest in his field
spicy.lemonade: Yeah
fractalcomputer: Then the questions are quite specialised.
anathemaofmankind: Isn't he like the smartest modern math guy
spicy.lemonade: But he knows who to ask
spicy.lemonade: He himself says he wouldn’t answer most
spicy.lemonade: Don’t think so
fractalcomputer: Probably a very high score, if not a perfect one; granted the questions are not too specialised. That said, I do not think it is a very good idea to see Tao as the peak of mathematical ability.
spicy.lemonade: Depends what tools he’s allowed
anathemaofmankind: I wonder what Terrence Tao would get on frontier math
popsiclejohnithan: Open AI will crack TPUs soon enough right?
popsiclejohnithan: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/1912779815570354401
mantegh5061: If they trained on it, it would get 100%
mantegh5061: I see
mantegh5061: > Regarding training usage: We acknowledge that OpenAI does have access to a large fraction of FrontierMath problems and solutions, with the exception of a unseen-by-OpenAI hold-out set that enables us to independently verify model capabilities. However, we have a verbal agreement that these materials will not be used in model training.
anathemaofmankind: I meant this
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/openai-secretly-funded-frontiermath-benchmarking-dataset/537760/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CFrontier%20Math%2C%20the%20recent%20cutting,with%20support%20from%20renowned%20mathematicians.
mantegh5061: are you talking about something else
mantegh5061: but that was training dataset
mantegh5061: yeah
spicy.lemonade: This week
spicy.lemonade: So I think they have atleast one more drop
spicy.lemonade: Also Sam was holding an ollama cup
anathemaofmankind: It wouldn't be impressive if they just trained it again on the dataset
spicy.lemonade: And why Sam wasn’t there today
spicy.lemonade: Why we don’t see it on website
spicy.lemonade: That would make sense
spicy.lemonade: O4 could be a showcase
spicy.lemonade: Hm
mantegh5061: o4
mantegh5061: there is
spicy.lemonade: The information talked about
spicy.lemonade: Unless there is the 20k model
spicy.lemonade: I don’t think there’s anymore drops
mantegh5061: >80% on frontier
mantegh5061: theyll bring out the twink this friday
spicy.lemonade: Has really good frontier math score
spicy.lemonade: And o4 full
anathemaofmankind: Tbh I don't even understand any of the problems.

Like problem 1 and I am stumped


futurist_wizard: Im aware, just clarifying his argument as he asked
alejandrozarzuelo: Sure, you can improve your chances
perish0801: And raise them not to be nihilistic
alejandrozarzuelo: They can all decide not to have kids
perish0801: To improve the chance of grandchildren
himekokatagiri: please elucidate
perish0801: That’s why I have multiple kids
fractalcomputer: I think this discussion is terribly indicative of the demographics of this server.
himekokatagiri: y'know
alejandrozarzuelo: If your kids decide to not have children of their own, your genes die with them, and you cannot force them to have kids
himekokatagiri: no one's gonna tell you what to do
hikukomoru: Pls no apeism in chat
himekokatagiri: you're gonna live our own way
trojan09205: Full of pain. but you can choose how much *suffering* you endure by shifting your perspective
himekokatagiri: once singularity hits
himekokatagiri: I think you guys gotta calm down
perish0801: That’s me ragebaiting people like you
trojan09205: life is a struggle homie G
alejandrozarzuelo: BTW having more or less testosterone doesn't have anything to do with having kids (as long as you are in healthy range)
perish0801: Not really. I am responsible for the kids of my kids. How is that not true? Are you dumb
trojan09205: The most recent planet of the apes film was raw af. highly recommend
theaiguy69420_89814: Yeah, that's the problem. Like spawning sounds nice, even the part where there's other spawns, but it's like when someone tells you there's a great pie we can give you every day. You think it's all great, but after a while, the diabetes hits and you wonder why you started eating in the first place
hikukomoru: I just looked it up and apparently it's racism against chimpanzees
futurist_wizard: Because you justify the reason to have children through spreading your genetics and having testosterone, a optimal outcome of evolution, it's about as apeism as you could get
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not you having kids

It's the idea that you think your genes will be passed down for generations to come, you are responsible for one generation, that's it, Wether thay continues or not is not in your hands
trojan09205: this is like some sort of talmudic debate lmao
st.sioux: which is kind of awful
trojan09205: imagine being a blue jay
trojan09205: *shrugs*
trojan09205: its a universe of nonconsent birthing
trojan09205: <@1303189881568100362>  every single living thing in existence has to coexist with all the others
himekokatagiri: what does that mean
hikukomoru: Borderline Personality Disorder
theaiguy69420_89814: They didn't consent to that
perish0801: No it makes it insufferable to be around them
theaiguy69420_89814: That's the issue, you spawn a kid, and then they have to deal with the other spawns also trying to do life
hikukomoru: sybau
alejandrozarzuelo: What is BPD
trojan09205: Yeah granted. but you're still conscious if you are in dream world all by yourself
st.sioux: it makes them quirky and interesting


ailoveyoom: The real ones are on AO3 🫡
zonchao: bet ur ass on wattpad all day
philosopherxxx: lmao well my philosophies are mine based on my experiences and content consumption not necessarily based on reading other philophers texts
ailoveyoom: Smut exists
ailoveyoom: Fake news
hikukomoru: No one here reads
hikukomoru: Name doesn't check out
philosopherxxx: never read a full book in my life academic or non academic doesnt matter not proud of it but thats the truth
trojan09205: Anyone here into novels
3ds0662: i wonder 💭 what there release will be
3ds0662: e.g. alt and dario
3ds0662: openai and claude are praying on their downfall
3ds0662: everyone thinks there fucked as of late cause o3 and gemini 2.5 pro release
gamerbath: I think they will release in the next week, but we'll see
gamerbath: but it's sunday
3ds0662: there is only 3-4 days left of april
3ds0662: just watched that i hope 🤞 deepseek release today
3ds0662: before he slipped off into his own startup
3ds0662: maybe that was when he was working for them
sarik0497: I know, but it could very well also turn out to be like the smartphone where you saw a few great leaps of advancements, only for things to eventually slow down with each new release. We can't really know for sure.

The one person that does keep me more on the optimistic side of things is Demis Hassabis. Unlike a lot of the other people in AI, he makes wild claims and then back them up. Usually earlier than his initial prediction too.
3ds0662: really? so then why does he not consider that significant if that is a respected benchmark by mathematicians
himekokatagiri: depends
arnie.2323: chat gpt is more insightful than humans
artemisfowl887394: Anything can happen like that. Any black Swan or OCP event can change the timeline.  But hopefully it's for the better and not all doomsday or technofeudalism route gets  considered.
sarik0497: Huh. o3 gave a very similar timeline.

But I'd like to point out that it's far from certain that the progress will continue at this pace. Things could very quickly slow down.
gamerbath: AI explained documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo0FDmSbTp4
spicy.lemonade: Yet his agi ones are farther
spicy.lemonade: Very strange
spicy.lemonade: These are his predictions
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: he also thinks well get 75+% frontier math this year
3ds0662: same
artemisfowl887394: Hope he's wrong. I want the 30's to be dominated by not just AGI but with ASI and how it tackles and takes over everything under the Sun and then the Sun itself .
3ds0662: the podcast was very long it was heated argument but basically was saying ai now as it is will take much longer he didnt shit on llms like yann lecun though at least
artemisfowl887394: What? 30+ years for AGI? What strain is he smoking?
3ds0662: bro said 30+ years
3ds0662: he does have a bit of condescension and arrogance to his speech
3ds0662: ege erdil bullied tf out of tamay on dwarkesh podcast
artemisfowl887394: But this raises the challenge for deepfake scenarios and copyrights.
artemisfowl887394: And maybe tweak the stories according to your tastes


spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: fuck you all ill be mariokarting with hookers in the metaverse
joaoluz19: I also hope that if wgmi I can see you guys later
joaoluz19: Deep
joaoluz19: I cried
ldj: <:hap:820511458613395477>
ldj: and everyone else in this server
ldj: u
joaoluz19: Folks, there is a lot of talk about everything that singularity will offer that we don't have. But what things would you like to preserve, what things would you not like to lose?
darkstar0818: Feel The Vesperance owes me a beer
darkstar0818: remember when meta dropped and everyone was all hype for like 24 hours?
zonchao: https://x.com/docmilanfar/status/1915610559166263439? (Google)
darkstar0818: cheers
zonchao: i surrender
zonchao: not the unc card 😭
darkstar0818: you may be too young to remember that competition back then.
zonchao: 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
zonchao: spacex 7 launches 2015
bo 2 launches
drewsni: this is what i thought you meant at first
zonchao: lmaooo
darkstar0818: Money was needed to beat Jeff Bezos.
zonchao: could be true for tesla tho
zonchao: they were not going bankrupt <:LMAO:1072632343715647640>
zonchao: spacex was in a much better financial position, and they achieved their first landing late 2015
darkstar0818: yes and spacex from 10 years ago isn't the spacex today
zonchao: they invested in 2015....
darkstar0818: when google invested in spacex the company was a pipe dream
zonchao: not true for spacex
3ds0662: right now everybody’s neck and neck
3ds0662: i wonder who takes the lead for ai in the next 2 years
darkstar0818: google invested in spacex and tesla cuz they were going bankrupt and larry was friends with elon before he went full retard.
zonchao: but I don't think google makes their own
zonchao: maybe we see some maps satellites on starship and I'm wrong <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
metaldragon01: Thats a completely different statement. Ofc robotic research helped space robot research as well
zonchao: 1B is nothing to them
zonchao: yea but I don't think they were ambitious about space robotics in 2015.... probably just seemed like a good bet
metaldragon01: Google had a robotics program in 2013...
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/fast-run-run-running-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-13913941
zonchao: openai and other labs have a bigger pool to recruit from
zonchao: this is good


ai9708: a film is not the same as taking heroin though
futurist_wizard: You will wirehead yourself
futurist_wizard: If you get addicted to cookie clicker than yeah
futurist_wizard: I can't even think of a film or a game where there's no struggles, no conflict, just win, maybe cookie clicker
ai9708: there are so many variables to this, cant calculate and predict anything
futurist_wizard: Nobody watches lord of the rings and thinks 'wow this would be so much better if the ring just instantly fell into mount doom and everyone was happy for 12 hours'
sarik0497: We call those “children champagne” here.
ai9708: asi future is unpredictable
ai9708: shit just gets crazy
ai9708: tbf, if we can alter the brain as we please, we can literally change our persons aswell
himekokatagiri: consequence free adversity sure
futurist_wizard: Most people at least aesthetically value adversity
futurist_wizard: Plants don't have adversity
futurist_wizard: I value adversity
futurist_wizard: It wouldn't be
futurist_wizard: No
ai9708: you would do it
ai9708: if it is the happiest you can be as a plant
futurist_wizard: Bro that's already you
ai9708: cant rly predict what happens after asi anyways, but yeah this is also one scenario
futurist_wizard: No agency, no thoughts, no narratives, just bliss
futurist_wizard: You are literally saying that everyone will live the exact same lives as a plant
futurist_wizard: Not relevant?
hikukomoru: Turn me into a horny drunk plant
ai9708: you wont contribute to shit
ai9708: nothing you do today would be relevant with asi
futurist_wizard: Everyone turning into plants is not my idea of cool
himekokatagiri: part of the fun is that it's temporary
ai9708: we will
ai9708: if we cant compete with any asi sure
zoermena: Yes please
himekokatagiri: impaired judgment etc
himekokatagiri: being drunk constantly sounds bad how are you gonna live if you can't walk a straight line
futurist_wizard: 'soon everyone will turn into plants'
futurist_wizard: Man that is so lost
himekokatagiri: tastes will differ
himekokatagiri: there's a lot of people in the world
himekokatagiri: idk I think that's generalizing
zoermena: I meant that I like your grounded perspective that accounts for religious beliefs as a way to argue towards why some populations have very different ways of valuing technology, I do think that there are many angles but your ToT are usually very rich and interesting.
ai9708: as ive said before, if we can alter the brain as we please, ppl will eventually look for maximum pleasure


hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: They tuned out to be a nudist
hey1_1hey: You remineded me of that time when someone said since humans are animals and this is animal abuse to dogs wearing clothes should be illegal
futurist_wizard: It'd be 1 but the whole body
hikukomoru: This would be animal abuse irl
st.sioux: option 2
clevermoniker: https://x.com/lucas__crespo/status/1904609130285064656
futurist_wizard: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
hey1_1hey: "Featuring Unkown IP My pus" is my translation
_3sphere: I remember a meme about "at what temperature do you become gender solid" and the top comment was "when you don't know whether you want to be with them or be them"
maintcrew: this is my password to one of the AI providers good luck
maintcrew: 3qhc50*scbHFB4Tk0D6w&0p
hey1_1hey: Real shit#
ailoveyoom: So true king
wellmeaningalien: ft_-uip%Mµ$
hikukomoru: There is a common lesbian saying:
"Do I want to BE her or be WITH her?"
hey1_1hey: You have more respect for yourself than that
hey1_1hey: Fractal dont answer that question
hey1_1hey: I can't tell if they are just really hot or I relate to them. This shits too hard
hikukomoru: Fractal are you a shrigma male or a yoghurt male?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976
fractalcomputer: Keep the fetish posting to a minimum.
hikukomoru: Let's talk about mushrooms
maintcrew: i declare the gooning sesh over please pack it up talk about ai again ⚠
hey1_1hey: Given me ideas
hey1_1hey: A mushroom belt goes crazy though
hey1_1hey: Possibly
hey1_1hey: I do not relate to this in any way
hikukomoru: Bro just nutted
hey1_1hey: I mean no, not at all
hey1_1hey: FUCK
hikukomoru: ?
hey1_1hey: I did NOT want to see my mushroom interest into soyjack meems
st.sioux: chat is this real
hey1_1hey: This hurts
hey1_1hey: I am prob the furthest thing from a male out there brother
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: No Im a weird gender bending mushroom thing
spicy.lemonade: not my generation
maintcrew: in the reflection


spicy.lemonade: nah i like it
popsiclejohnithan: Do you think Yann's dismissal of LLMs is why Lama 4 failed so miserably?
brain4brain: Famous example of AGI 2035 "people":

Yann, Aero (Gary)
popsiclejohnithan: Honestly yeah i think they are even a bit conservative on how long it will take for this to all take off, 2027 is two years away and look how much we have gotten in these past few months alone.
brain4brain: Reality is stranger than fiction, believe in 2025
brain4brain: AI 2027 people: Everything is right so far, but slightly pessimistic
AGI 2035 people: Wrong about every single thing so far
aero447: It's done more harm to AI than Alpha wolf paper did to society.
aero447: Please, stop citing that paper.
spicy.lemonade: well no coding agents will be here
spicy.lemonade: ai-2027 essentially says 2025 will be a boring year: https://ai-2027.com/
wolf3404: 📎 📎 📎
aero447: We share roads with these morons.
aero447: "WEF bad!"
aero447: On the day Romulus and Remus founded Rome, on the day the Red Baron was shot down, on the day that the AIDS virus was discovered and Queen Elizabeth was born and Henry VIII became king AND the Gameboy was first sold?!?!?!?!
bob082957: It’s great opportunity because so they take ai seriously and put money in
brain4brain:
brain4brain: Great news for the ASI
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
bob082957: Then Vatican makes kryo just on Head?
spicy.lemonade:
bob082957:
spicy.lemonade: downloaded png and says @ammaar+@olacombe
spicy.lemonade: cant
.wolfnacht: open it
.wolfnacht: So he retired at at the age of 88, the same day the pope died at the age of 88, the day after Hitlers birthday.
spicy.lemonade: whats this?
spicy.lemonade:
.wolfnacht: https://fxtwitter.com/rovercrc/status/1914264979517198341

conspiracy theorists are abt to have a field day with this one
aero447: Yet.
aero447: 😮💨
_3sphere: Time travel is not real <:bingus:1136264105800515644>
aero447: 😉
aero447: Through time travel and fake clone bodies it's infinite.
aero447: Wrong again 1 circle.
trojan09205: Yeah I was not talking about recoverable, but more like how long it takes for every cell to truly die
_3sphere: The window for a maybe-recoverable freezing is pretty short
https://brainpreservation.github.io/Postmortem https://brainpreservation.github.io/Agonal
_3sphere: He's in cryo?
brain4brain: It was a prophecy
brain4brain: Neon green was real
trojan09205: <@749514473303179358> u read “Mans Search For Meaning”?


hey1_1hey: You wouldnt be able to find it if you tried
trent_k: we need to add more stars to it, starting with greenland
hganhhh: can you point to it
hikukomoru: I'm so ashamed of my country
hganhhh: where is wales on a map
hikukomoru: This guy is Portuguese 🥀
hey1_1hey: Got a big ass dragon on mine
hganhhh: the us flag doesnt have that many stars
hey1_1hey:
trent_k: 🇺🇸 😎
hey1_1hey: Mines cool asf
hganhhh: post your country's flag rn
hey1_1hey: Doesn't change my opinion bruh
hey1_1hey: Ass flag still
trent_k: 😏
hganhhh: its a country in africa
hey1_1hey: ASS
hganhhh: rate the flag
hey1_1hey: Medicinal chemistry is goated 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣 🗣
hganhhh: yeah thats me dw
.0xunkn0wn: aromatic 😭
hey1_1hey: I love chemistry
hikukomoru: ??
trent_k: the only thing im worried about is having more kids before they make it illegal
wellmeaningalien: UH OH THE FUN POLICE HAS ARRIVED
hey1_1hey: We haven't had a troll in ages so its good to finally have one come back
hganhhh: dw its spot on
hganhhh: yeah its this
hey1_1hey: The woke mind virus
trent_k: ppl who dont wanna fuck and think its their sexuality but actually its cause they eat nothing but poison
hey1_1hey: Can we get native 4o image to generete big tony as a sub
hganhhh: aromantic
hikukomoru: What the fuck is an ace
_3sphere: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
trent_k: post ur diet
hey1_1hey: I'm perfect
.histic: <@1056739182338388108>
.histic: i'll show u mushroom as a girl @big
trent_k: every time i hear "ey tony" i think of antisemitic memes
hganhhh: sorry im ace


3ds0662: glad 😌 the singularity will finally happen during our lifetimes
3ds0662: yeah in 2 years its all over
3ds0662:
3ds0662: unrealistic but very fun to watch and enjoy 😉 😊
3ds0662: and last one is from an anime called phi brain
3ds0662: invincible brain 🧠 transfer”the system wasn’t designed for neurons this dense” lol
3ds0662: then we have planet of the apes alz-112 the problem they have the ape doing in the movie is a very famous discrete math/introductory algo problem named the tower of hanoi here they name it “lucas’s tower” lololol
3ds0662: and in 2016 he was a successful investment banker lol
3ds0662: we have limitless 2015 vs 2016 differences where in the movie he was working for a pharma company or something
3ds0662: 90% of brain 🧠 lol
3ds0662: we have lucy cph4
3ds0662: although they don’t necessarily change anything in my real life
3ds0662: im a junkie for these types of characters and shows
3ds0662: i farm this type of fiction like a rat
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
3ds0662:
3ds0662: this whole ai revolution and all these cool ai tools and releases was just a supplementary interest to me i really wish for that instead
3ds0662: even watched the limitless tv show 2016
3ds0662: lol 😂 i have them all saved lol
3ds0662: shit not only that any movie involving becoming super intelligent and a genius temporarily due to some random drug ive watched
3ds0662: ive watched limitless multiple times
3ds0662: ohh my god my favorite movie
3ds0662: something teeming on the level of a mix of adhd focus highly aroused attention drugs plus insane neuroplasticity learning on crack at the pace of polymaths or whatever making learning fun or addicting
otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
otub: nzt baby
otub: https://tenor.com/view/limitless-adderall-bradley-cooper-gif-11269455
3ds0662: you think they’ll release a peptide soon enough like ozempic that can reasonably augment human intelligence and learning ability?
3ds0662: o3 pro mode better blow my frickin mind
3ds0662: o3 in 3 weeks i can’t wait
_letterbox: This is the future
a1c4p0ne:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/maid-robot-anime-animatronic-gif-25435633
hikukomoru: How Chocolate Milk is Made:
Homemade:
Pour milk into a glass.
Add chocolate syrup OR cocoa powder and sugar.
Stir really well until mixed. Done!
Store-Bought (Commercial):
Milk is mixed with cocoa, sugar, and stabilizers (to keep cocoa from settling).
The mix is pasteurized (heated) to make it safe and last longer.
It's often homogenized to make it smooth.
Finally, it's cooled and put into cartons or bottles.
Basically, it's just mixing milk with chocolate flavoring, but store-bought versions have extra steps for safety, smoothness, and shelf life.
joaoluz19: It's just that maybe it's not as relevant as having a body


technocake.: does 6'2" count
alejandrozarzuelo: i meant global average
hikukomoru: Why is everyone here short
futurist_wizard: Im south african so dutch genes, that would be below average
alejandrozarzuelo: who said european?
alejandrozarzuelo: well i mean average
literallyvarane: Days?
wellmeaningalien:
literallyvarane: Slowly like weeks?
alejandrozarzuelo: 177 is tall tho
zoermena: Yes
technocake.: true and accurate from real prime minister
maintcrew: nah no way the eu average is that small
mihrcelium: Wait what, Alex's been sending dick pics?
wellmeaningalien:
drewsni: Is anyone here except for me a tall Chad?
hey1_1hey: Its a long story
.histic: pro, plus, and free.
but it will roll out slowly. pro first, then plus, then free.
oooooooooog: if ur plus u can just use sora right...?
hey1_1hey: Eh... I mean yanno
alejandrozarzuelo: thats 2cm above the average
hikukomoru: He didn't send you his dick pics too?
literallyvarane: I meant plus not pro lololol
futurist_wizard: Manlet
wellmeaningalien: yex
wellmeaningalien:
literallyvarane: Do plus  users have access??
hey1_1hey: 5'2 is crazy
mihrcelium: What is this in American?
hey1_1hey: Dick picks? Damn bro you packing
futurist_wizard: 177ft
hikukomoru: Close enough
alejandrozarzuelo: im 177
alejandrozarzuelo: 177
hikukomoru: So you're 5'2 then?
wellmeaningalien: spicy lemonade is very short
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Its whether you are aroused or not
hey1_1hey: 100% success rate aswell
alejandrozarzuelo: dude you saw my pics


metaldragon01: Can yall goon in off topic plz?
_3sphere: Magic being so hard to learn that he was spared from the gangbang
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah probably he just has a seniority position
czdct: he's already past his prime
czdct: I don't think grandpa smurf's dick is working anymore
_3sphere: I guess it's just a social position he has as the leader and magician
alejandrozarzuelo: the only question I have is if grandpa smurf serves also as a semen depository or just a worker

i mean its only one individual so it doesnt make too much of a change
alejandrozarzuelo: it can be tho
alejandrozarzuelo: it doesnt NEED to be a gangbang tho, it can happen one-to-one
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah? again, this is how nature already works in thousands of species
_3sphere: Generational smurf gangbang
alejandrozarzuelo: so it is tamer than real life
alejandrozarzuelo: if anything this is better as ALL males contribute, while typically only a few do
alejandrozarzuelo: idk why you are reacting with 💀 , thats how bees work too
_3sphere: Makes sense 💀
alejandrozarzuelo: this is very beneficial for the genetic recombination
_3sphere: Ohh
alejandrozarzuelo: it also means that all males, not just a small minority contribute to the semen reserves of smurfette
alejandrozarzuelo: as i said, it is typical that colony males die after reproduction, but in their case it doesnt seem to happen

this greatly improves the survivability of the species as you need smaller numbers to maintain genetic diversity
alejandrozarzuelo: even though they are siblings it wouldnt cause too much trouble
_3sphere: Are there trillions of smurfs in total with exponential growth
alejandrozarzuelo: yes, thats how that works
_3sphere: Did they disperse
alejandrozarzuelo: however since they have a lot of genetic diversity, so when they all have sex with smurfette she will have a very large semen reserve inside her for rproduction
futurist_wizard: Smurfette getting gangbanged on the regular
_3sphere: Why is there only one surviving grandpa smurf
czdct: oh sweet home...
alejandrozarzuelo: they are probably all siblings
alejandrozarzuelo: that way he didnt have to do too many as the colony would take care of itself, genious
alejandrozarzuelo: there is nothing more natural than a colony structure for the species
_3sphere: Didn't Gargamel make her first
alejandrozarzuelo: the only thing that i dont know is if smurfette and the male smurfs are mother and sons or if they are all siblings of the previous generation
_3sphere: Wait, smurfette herself is unnatural isn't she
czdct: hhmmmm
alejandrozarzuelo: they just found a larva, not a kidnap
alejandrozarzuelo: the males in the smurf colony we do know are all young, so they are not in the reproductive stage of the cycle
czdct: oh now they're baby kidnappers
alejandrozarzuelo: happens all the time
alejandrozarzuelo: nah, they just found a baby from another colony
czdct: makes more sense than whatever the hell everyone else is coming up with


oooooooooog: yeah, each year counts for a lot, don't scoff at how fricken OLD people are bro, just because they are SO OLD!!!!!!!!
ailoveyoom: <@505313122802728972> Do you not feel old as a 20 year old tho
hikukomoru: I'm calling you youthful
it's a compliment
st.sioux: this is literally the worst thing anyone's ever said to me
.wolfnacht: *"He who scoffs at the sands of age shall find his own hourglass tipped, and the grains will bury his laughter beneath the weight of years."*
wellmeaningalien: gpt 4o makes ART
hikukomoru: Me too
He also gave me teenage boy vibes like you
futurist_wizard: Its like this for every server
ailoveyoom: It's okay the mods are old (it balances out) 😈
futurist_wizard:
ailoveyoom: I thought you were 20 or younger ngl
sarik0497: No joke, I had no idea the average age of the server was so low.
oooooooooog: top ten silverhawk quotes of all time
wellmeaningalien: then if everyone in the globe lied on the survey it balances out
ailoveyoom: Wild
ailoveyoom: Wtf I scrolled up the chat here 💀
hey1_1hey: Remember to write me in your will
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/matt-damon-old-ageing-matt-damon-gif-5219578
hikukomoru: On death's door
st.sioux: im 25
oooooooooog: boomer ts pmo
oooooooooog: that's because its old af
hey1_1hey: Over 25 even
a1c4p0ne: Don’t people lie on surveys all the time
sarik0497: Komoru calling everyone over 30 for “old”
hey1_1hey: Yeah true, I love seeing men getting fucked by other men 👍
(I dont)
oooooooooog: is he sieve's alt?
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> is talking about his cuck fetish
wellmeaningalien:
oooooooooog: i forgot
st.sioux: its cope
inferno0879: sunshine is quite important
_3sphere: What's going on here
hikukomoru: Aren't you into that stuff
inferno0879: lmao
hey1_1hey: Thats great
hey1_1hey: Yeah no I am still being cucked by OAI
wellmeaningalien: actually apparently people self report as happy quite a lot too in finland
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Everyone in Finland is depressed
That bullshit about "happiest country on earth" is false


joaoluz19: Only 3 more years for AI models to do it?
hikukomoru: 10 more years
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/homura-akemi-homura-pmmm-scared-terrified-gif-17719695
hikukomoru: Working with him is like working for Kyubey...
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/madoka-magica-kyuubey-madoka-kaname-homura-akemi-slap-gif-17925194312208790207
himekokatagiri: is movie 4 coming out well
himekokatagiri: How was it working for akiyuki shinbo
himekokatagiri: I'm a big fan
himekokatagiri: woahhhh homura
trojan09205: i mean honestly i think the quality is fantastic
hikukomoru: Akemi Homura...
hikukomoru: No... my name is...
futurist_wizard: Chicken jockey
himekokatagiri: Komoru....
Carl-bot#1536:
hikukomoru:
xskydragon0: Maybe better than Sora AI?
oooooooooog: what's wrong with suffering
trojan09205: Veo2 ⬆
trojan09205: A stem party
futurist_wizard: People are a lot more attractive until i put contact lenses on
trojan09205:
futurist_wizard: It's not too bad actually
futurist_wizard: You should just live with bad eye sight like me
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah, unfortunately
futurist_wizard: Do you wear glasses alejandro
futurist_wizard:
trojan09205:
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm one of the stemiest guys here
futurist_wizard:
alejandrozarzuelo: You forgot to write a 1 in there

2136
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm stem
alejandrozarzuelo: The owner of the server is a NEET iirc
ldj: as well as Vicuna
ldj: I think Lmsys started at berkeley
ldj: Yea still a good school though :), atleast better than prob 99% of american universities for AI.
spicy.lemonade: Berkeley has more of the artist types and the stem types aren’t as vocal
ldj: feels more stuffy
ldj: and feels more crowded
ldj: also more homeless people


okbut: GPT-5 on these tools will be crazy
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/i-had-strings-but-now-i%E2%80%99m-free-ultron-age-of-ultron-avengers-avengers-age-of-ultron-gif-10567460379020232508
xskydragon0: How powerfull is compared to O3?
playstation.6: I hear a lot of yes’s
ai9708: are we getting deepseek r2 before may?
playstation.6: token prediction goat moment
.coldcall: It knows
spicy.lemonade: Claude doesn’t want to kill us all
playstation.6:
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: wow it's agi
spicy.lemonade: This is the most accurate 4o ascii I’ve ever seen
spicy.lemonade: wtf
spicy.lemonade: Dude
spicy.lemonade:
himekokatagiri: Men, we are safe
himekokatagiri: Brazil is a football
himekokatagiri:
.histic: ai
okbut: <:Hmm:804642320195780619>
okbut: Opsec or AI
spicy.lemonade:
himekokatagiri: reap what you sow, etc, etc
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂
himekokatagiri:
spicy.lemonade: 100% of the time
spicy.lemonade: It works
spicy.lemonade: Try it yourself
himekokatagiri: 🤷♂ who knows knows man
himekokatagiri: even GPT knows
spicy.lemonade:
himekokatagiri: But it's a part of life I guess
himekokatagiri: they probably are because the kind of person to do this lol
himekokatagiri: If it happens well shit hope the guys doing it ain't mean enough to fuck your life over pointless slapfights on the web
himekokatagiri: no one has the forethought
himekokatagiri: And it's pointless even to do it
trent_k: they still struggle to determine which information is relevant or irrelevant
himekokatagiri: I practice no opsec you'll find me in 30 seconds flat
trent_k: like very clearly not the same guy
trent_k: it always gets sidetracked by some government official from missouri or somewhere who has the same name as me


perish0801: Only if
st.sioux: if u didnt like your wife you could just get her lobotomized
retupmoclatcarf: you can still purchase wives in much of the third world countries.
perish0801: Icl vro Sybau 🥀
alejandrozarzuelo: This is not exaggerating tho, it's simply being misleading
trojan09205: Yeah but they had less government backing to pull. crazy shit
himekokatagiri: but it's out of reach
himekokatagiri: I think it would be nice to try
himekokatagiri: idk
himekokatagiri: 🤔 hmmmm
trent_k: Life is full of uncertainty. Even back in the RETVRN days where you bought a wife from a guy you knew at church, it's not like BPD hoes didn't exist lol
trojan09205: I have 3 kids and its definitely a lot of work. And you have to be pretty sure of who you are making them with, which is practically impossible nowadays. In any case, if you have the time, energy, and money I think it's a nice thing to do
perish0801: I was exaggerating
perish0801: I know what exponentially means dude
st.sioux: the more people there are the less we can pay them
alejandrozarzuelo: No, and that's not what exponential means
hikukomoru: I'm practically a parent since I have 2 cats
trent_k: I gotta make more kids before 2028, when the democrats regain power and make being straight illegal
trojan09205: i get much better results when i just deal with fewer documents at a time
trojan09205: I feel like 'less is more' with RAG honestly
hikukomoru: Just get some pets or something
hikukomoru: What's the point of having kids now
trojan09205: I studied for several years in a yeshiva
himekokatagiri: but we got AI now
himekokatagiri: I agree jiankui woulda been a big deal
alejandrozarzuelo: Look I love his shit post personality but he has an ego that is way too big for comfort
retupmoclatcarf: >be jewish
himekokatagiri: and then trent having to escape to eastern europe
himekokatagiri: the hottest part is shaking him down for alimony thogh
himekokatagiri: woahhh that's hot
hikukomoru: I'm going to start calling you a breeder
himekokatagiri: whaaaaa why
alejandrozarzuelo: Aramaic? How did you become fluent in Aramaic
memlaswaif: its gotta be dimishing returns
hikukomoru: Lol loser
memlaswaif: probably
trent_k: Yes but you get it even more from >1 child
memlaswaif: u can get that from just one child
trent_k: People say this just because they can't quantify the abstract benefit of the practically hardwired reward you feel watching your child grow up
himekokatagiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1YO2R9IcWc


retrerox: having extra tokens to make memes seems worth for me
777agical: yes
retrerox: Do  you think is worth to pay for chat gpt?
literallyvarane: It’s out?
777agical: inference time compute scales crazy fast
shirethedreamer: its out?
retrerox: I'm not but i can spot computer that has virus pretty easy
retrerox: Me?
metaldragon01: GUYS go use the new Google coder!
memlaswaif: R u in India or something
shirethedreamer: that makes much more sense than the lithium mine slave i was imagining
retrerox: Aside from my wage and Mealcard ofc
retrerox: 200 Euros
shirethedreamer: pennies... or dollars?
retrerox: Is just extra benefits aside of my normal Salary
memlaswaif: I don't think there r too many of these big improvements left before we hit actual agi
retrerox: And its aside from my main salary
shirethedreamer: like it cant be any more self evident than that
shirethedreamer: people in this chat were shitting on gpt 4.5 when it came out...
metaldragon01: Try nightshade!
metaldragon01: https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/quasar-alpha
shirethedreamer: exactly
steven_the_frog: The pattern has happened before.

 1."It's almost there but still a bit unnatural"

**Big improvement that crosses the uncanny valley**

2.  "haven't we had this for a while now?"
retrerox: 200*
shirethedreamer: moar
memlaswaif: like 2? Or 3
777agical: they are starting to, the normie wave will be huge this year
shirethedreamer: this much
shirethedreamer: normal people with no ai experience are not talking to chatgpt
memlaswaif: wdym plenty
metaldragon01: Normal people with no AI experience can make great images by just talking to gpt now
metaldragon01: Pfft the numbers say otherwise
metaldragon01: Even if it's just a natural improvement
shirethedreamer: ive heard plenty of people claim 4o image is nothing special and we had stable diffusion/midjourney/gemini image before anyway which were almost the same
metaldragon01: Super natural voice will feel massive, extremely long memory will feel amazing too
metaldragon01: There are major checkpoints though like the 4o image gen and those will feel like large jumps
shirethedreamer: nah
i dont think there will be more breakthroughs than there are today
and it will probably be the same reaction as we are getting today or at any point over the last several years
a new model came out? lame - not agi (its 10-15% better than last gen like it is every time a new model gets released)
it just not mindblowing when the frame of reference is rising at the same rate as the peaks
777agical: not bullish enough
spacetimetsunami: This is so funny
ldj: they also use METR paper forecasts


alejandrozarzuelo: what?
maintcrew: better hope the racism/acc empire doesnt win then
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
spicy.lemonade: pretend youre asian
alejandrozarzuelo: asianwash?
maintcrew: rip
spicy.lemonade: no
maintcrew: i think alejandro can
maintcrew: can u asian wash
spicy.lemonade: :(
spicy.lemonade: ill always be second class
spicy.lemonade: was hoping i could get job at tencent or something but liekely wont
spicy.lemonade: so sad
spicy.lemonade: only way to get a job in china is to become a teacher
alejandrozarzuelo: I just love the aesthetics of the city
alejandrozarzuelo: (okok, we all know the joke, and NO i dont want to go to chingqing because of THAT)
alejandrozarzuelo: its like, my dream city
alejandrozarzuelo: me too buddy, me too

(fr i need to finish my chinese learning journey i cant stay halfassing it)

A teacher in the company I worked in summer was from Chengdu but studied in Xian, i would LOVE if she could get me a recommendation letter to work in a math institute in Chongqing
spicy.lemonade: man i need to go to china
alejandrozarzuelo: you are probably right and i agree, but with pokemon in particular the consensus of the fanbase is about how much the new games are for kids and how great the old games were

and ive always thought this was just nostalgia talking
alejandrozarzuelo: May Day is huge in china, i mean it is very important here too, but in china it is really important

i would not be surprised if many models dropped then

Isnt it weird that a day for international socialism and worker solidarity celebrated almost everywhere is due to an event that happened in the united states, a country that doesnt even celebrate it despite happening on their soil?

maybe on may 2nd after may day

Here in europe, while its an important date, may 9th is more so, maybe mistral will drop something then? idk
nsec: they had to run on something so much weaker any complexity would be very limited
nsec: yes dude remember these were very simple games designed so that children could beat them and moreover remember that the Internet was really limited just to compare the new Nintendo will have:

10,000× more processing power
500,000× more RAM
32,000× more base storage capacity
89× higher resolution

etc
alejandrozarzuelo: thats craaaazy
alejandrozarzuelo: then those millenials saying that games were harder in their days are just saying this out of a nostalgic distortion caused by the fact that they were kids when they played them?
.0xunkn0wn: what model does firebase studio use
.0xunkn0wn: oh k
nsec: complexity was limited
nsec: they ran on a gameboy
alejandrozarzuelo: gemini 2.5 hands down
.0xunkn0wn: and what open source model is oai cooking
nsec: they were made for kids born in the 80s
.0xunkn0wn: what's the best free model rn 🙏
nsec: dude
alejandrozarzuelo: so idk
alejandrozarzuelo: i am a very casual gamer, my favorite game is Animal Crossing
nsec: they were very simple
nsec: no
alejandrozarzuelo: yay
nsec: with access to a guide which it also has


spicy.lemonade: And 3.5?
spicy.lemonade: Gemini 3?
spicy.lemonade: So what is googled o3/gpt 5 level model gonna be
drewsni: Bruh.
etnin_: nah bro u seen nothin
.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636
.wolfnacht: i saw dat
.wolfnacht: doujins ? 🥵
drewsni: To be fair the screenshot was of your profile screen not the picture itself
st.sioux: mclovin is a criminal mastermind
spicy.lemonade: Google would’ve blocked this
spicy.lemonade: Oh shit
etnin_: it picks one animal only
etnin_: it was fine for the most part but whenever u put a black person...
etnin_: I was experimenting with a prompt that turn people into animals that resambles them.
.histic: https://x.com/elder_plinius/status/1904784415676301754
st.sioux: what happened
etnin_: i found out something pretty strange using the built it in 4o image gen model
brain4brain: Hi
brain4brain: Considering it was one of the five things that kickstarted AI to the normies in 2022
etnin_: greetings
brain4brain: An unfortunate ending
brain4brain: They are deepfried
st.sioux: <@430269783112548362>
st.sioux: wrong copy
spicy.lemonade: The last things are the next gen models
spicy.lemonade: Except sora 2 maybe
spicy.lemonade: Yeah there’s nothing left in the vault
spicy.lemonade: Hm
spicy.lemonade: We had 3 drops today
spicy.lemonade: Alr what’s gonna drop next🙏
st.sioux: How accurate is this?
st.sioux:
spicy.lemonade: Accidentally
spicy.lemonade: Accidentally generated sketch of me and my ex one last time
anathemaofmankind: I'm gonna generate myself with waifus
anathemaofmankind: 4o is gonna be useful for self insert fanfics
ailoveyoom: Cool but it turned her to a guy 😔
spicy.lemonade: Ngl switch
spicy.lemonade: Imagine being an art major


precariousworlds.: accurate
sarik0497: Disappointing text-to-speech
maintcrew: api for voice 0.6$ an hour
precariousworlds.: Zon does glaze elon but he's still an interesting contributor to this server
maintcrew: u should change ur pfp to the protagonist hello kitty since ur not in a villain mood rn
ailoveyoom: Chat what was the OAI thing
precariousworlds.: its komoru
_3sphere: Zon?
hikukomoru: Not you dw pookie
maintcrew: ppl just like to argue
maintcrew: if its me i can tone it down but i am 99% sure this shit happens in the hours im not on
inferno0879: super saiyan mice
mihrcelium: Oh? <:02S_Shy:1275173488428322877>
oooooooooog: just do it in <#1136231504440201216>
maintcrew: yayyy!!!!
oooooooooog: wooly mammoth mice?
mihrcelium: Carry on. I'm not a mod here. It was just jarring to see politics overtly in a channel that previously limited its scope to AI, which authoritarianism and Putin sans relation to technology are not.
maintcrew: check this shit out yo
precariousworlds.: The VAZ-2102 Lada
futurist_wizard: If you want to discuss something, bring something up
precariousworlds.: but I predict by 2028 it will be a major partisan issue
precariousworlds.: the right-wing currently has the initiative in seizing opportunities of AI
precariousworlds.: Also it does feel like political factions are evolving in regards to AI policy
mihrcelium: *shrug*
futurist_wizard: What is appropriate? AI has massive economic and social implications, super powers are racing to progress in AI in a Manhattan project like event, its political across the board
precariousworlds.: I think as long as the political discussion is vaguely relevant
Like for example an extensive abortion debate is not a good idea
But then a subtopic of that debate, like artificial wombs, might be interesting for this server's purpose
hey1_1hey: Mostly... talk about 2 step back tho. You gotta go back to grooming class
You don't just groom the person and then be horrible to them a day later yanno. You gotta keep at it
hikukomoru: I wonder what happen in these few months for things to change
mihrcelium: I didn't say we shouldn't discuss politics. I said this was General. I've only been absent for a few months but I do remember we did better at keeping our topics in the appropriate channel.
hikukomoru: Didn't you say my efforts were succesful
I don't need to pretend any longer
futurist_wizard: Everything is political, drinking clean water is political, this rule of no politics is 'dont discuss things i don't understand or don't like'
hikukomoru: Most of it is a certain guy's fault
hey1_1hey: Feels a little targerted. Aren't I supposed to feel good when being groomed?
precariousworlds.: Death to libertarianism
precariousworlds.: I think we need more authority in governance and society right now, not less
hikukomoru: Mushroom people 🤬
precariousworlds.: I am sympathetic to what you're saying though
precariousworlds.: Pretty much yeah
precariousworlds.: The singularity will be a political event
mihrcelium: You're using "is" when you should be using "can be" in that sentence.


.wolfnacht: https://tenor.com/view/oswald-mosley-we-live-in-a-period-we-live-in-a-society-gamer-society-gif-18166259
oooooooooog: humans could do it though, there isn't any reason to think otherwise
its just an issue of decomposing a problem
memlaswaif: <:cutethink:708400862833410079>
3ds0662: no more humans
3ds0662: yeah we need to give it to the machine god
oooooooooog: are you 80 years old?
3ds0662: nobody will live long enough to wait for thst
oooooooooog: anyway, i agree that it will come after asi, but ASI 2025, so like, yeah...~!~~~!!~!~!
oooooooooog: we havent even had 200 years of biochemistry
3ds0662: the same way we have math theorems/problems that have gone unsolved for centuries
3ds0662: humans arent smart enough to solve aging on their own
3ds0662: everything else will come after
3ds0662: i believe in asi first
3ds0662: yeah
3ds0662: shit even engineers have trouble mimicking there movements
wellmeaningalien: ai will never be able to replace human degeneracy
oooooooooog: do you think the singularity will happen
3ds0662: and study them
3ds0662: we havent been able to utilize any of those animals abilities even though we know of them
thedon7075: furrys are the last line of defense against ai art. everyone else has conceded
spicy.lemonade:
3ds0662: a mechanism for not dying in other animals never maps too well to humans. jelly fish, regenerative limbs of reptilians etc..
oooooooooog: appeal to hypocrisy is a fallacy spicy lemon
wellmeaningalien: If this furry says that life is worth it then im killing myself
spicy.lemonade: 💀
spicy.lemonade: And that I'm
A bad person
spicy.lemonade: Person who drew this is telling me I don't deserve to live
wellmeaningalien: That guy said that and this guy said this
3ds0662: not solvable
3ds0662: david sinclair said it was going to be nmn and other things but even he at most said that it would take well past 2045
oooooooooog: google lobster
wellmeaningalien: Ok dude
3ds0662: new things that describe something no solution
wellmeaningalien: And youre a retardo
wellmeaningalien: Bryan Johnson is a retard but aging is most definitely solvable
3ds0662: if not then aging isnt something solvable if weve had since beginning of time to do it
wellmeaningalien: We are still discovering new things about aging everyday
3ds0662: do you see anyone even those who rub babies blood on themselves and go the order of 2 million dollar treatments stop aging?
wellmeaningalien: And I take it you are god and you know everything about human physiology
3ds0662: what aging is an impossible problem


spicy.lemonade: Oh lol
himekokatagiri: with cut content
himekokatagiri: Mafia II remake
darkstar0818: I wasn't expecting a response.  I was just trolling since you were being a dork and telling me what I need.
hikukomoru: Tbh I mostly just wanna remaster old games I liked or that had big potential but turned out to be dogshit
st.sioux: at least online
st.sioux: everyone gives a fuck they're all up in arms about it
himekokatagiri: so sad
himekokatagiri: nobody gives a fuck
himekokatagiri: you make cool shit with ai
himekokatagiri: I think my only issue with ai gen content today is the banality
spicy.lemonade: But only 1 real year in actual workforce
spicy.lemonade: Got top 50 for golang internationally in competitive programming and got 8th in vrx intl competition beating mit cmu and iit in hs. Buil sim software used by over 50 robotics team and EECs major at Berkeley
hikukomoru: I can tell boo
himekokatagiri: yes he's old
himekokatagiri: USS Darkstar
darkstar0818: I am old.
himekokatagiri: and by the time I'm done ASI will be here
himekokatagiri: and spend months making the game just right
hikukomoru: God you sound old
himekokatagiri: because then I'll have to playtest
hikukomoru: Why stop at mods
Just make the game of ur dreams vro 🙏
darkstar0818: Sure they will eventually get agenetic scofolding that is good enough to multi-shot it.  But 1 shot is good.
darkstar0818: How many years of programming you have under your belt to tell me that 🙂
himekokatagiri: For any game we like
himekokatagiri: We can make infinite mods
spicy.lemonade: You don’t tho😭
himekokatagiri: I'm imagining mod potential
darkstar0818: bro dont tell me what I need.  I need it.
spicy.lemonade: This is a non issue
spicy.lemonade: Once we have agentic
spicy.lemonade: Output is not needed
spicy.lemonade: Just need agent
spicy.lemonade: We don’t need to one shot
darkstar0818: easy, say 'fix this
st.sioux: "fix" lol
himekokatagiri: how will you fix it
himekokatagiri: if the program has issues
himekokatagiri: idk man
spicy.lemonade: 16-24


hey1_1hey: I swear when you get kicked, kneed, punched whatever in the balls it doesn't even hurt in the area. It is just a vauge sensenation and it feels like you are going to be sick
zoermena: My teacher be like
technocake.: My ball once got infected and swelled up to golfball size
futurist_wizard: Yeah he was, i touched him up worse
hey1_1hey: He was just tryna touch you up bruh
futurist_wizard: His thigh basically lifted up my testicles
futurist_wizard: It wasn't a clean knee
hey1_1hey: So you're telling me you got kneed in the balls and walked it off until the next day instead of immiterly dropping to your knees
futurist_wizard: Adrenaline
futurist_wizard: My balls were aching
hey1_1hey: Bluds got balls of steel
hey1_1hey: WHAT
futurist_wizard: Didn't feel it until the next day
hey1_1hey: Straight up infertiltity for you
hey1_1hey: None what so ever
hey1_1hey: There was no connectionn between me and the fatal overdose of xanax at 3:23pm on the 4th of November 2023
futurist_wizard: I got kneed in the testicles once
futurist_wizard: I know
hey1_1hey: I'd prob break my fist, although I did knee one of them full force in the dick and balls that one time
futurist_wizard: Well i guess
futurist_wizard: Why did you kill him
hey1_1hey: It all works out int he end
hey1_1hey: Its alright, one of them is dead and the other two are now borderline homeless
futurist_wizard: You should have punched them
futurist_wizard: Mean ass kids
hikukomoru: Finally someone got it
hey1_1hey: Its just high school so they were prob just insecure
ailoveyoom: https://tenor.com/view/oblivion-the-elder-scrolls-the-elder-scrolls-oblivion-stop-stop-right-there-criminal-scum-gif-7645226535652182022
hey1_1hey: Honestly no clue
hey1_1hey: Autism prob idk. Gave them something to do? They had a secret crush on me and they didnt know how to show it...?
futurist_wizard: Why did they bully you
hey1_1hey: Occasinly, not often though because I have brittle bones and I would just straight up break
hey1_1hey: I realised that if I wanted to get rid of them I acted like I wanted to fuck them and it that worked
futurist_wizard: Did they punch you
hey1_1hey: I had like 3 different bullies all competeting to fuck me up. It was like a game show of who I came across first
futurist_wizard: Nobody picked on me in highschool
realelonmuskx: "you" are an array of thoughts, experiences and delusions running on ancient meat software. kill the self toa void suffering
futurist_wizard: I hate spiders
hey1_1hey: Clearly you need to be bullied more
hey1_1hey: It was a cannon event