alejandrozarzuelo: thats lame
alejandrozarzuelo: you cant?
zoermena: Not Europe, can’t go whenever for free.
zoermena: I should buy some produce for eye health
alejandrozarzuelo: go to the doctor?
alejandrozarzuelo: you know
alejandrozarzuelo: dont you just
alejandrozarzuelo: suspect?
_3sphere: Can't believe I still don't need glasses given how I always treated my eyes
zoermena: I suspect I might’ve messed up my eye maybe diabetes? I ate like shit as a teenager.
_3sphere: Humans are so slow and yet so expensive per unit time, it actually checks out if you consider how long drawing takes and the min wage
alejandrozarzuelo: how so
alejandrozarzuelo: like photography did
_3sphere: SD 1 ahh image
_cloudost: No wonder ARTISTS are so pissed off by AI art, they love taking advantage of people's income, and yet that more people are free to express their creativity these artists oppose AI, they are tyrants pretending to be "oppressed"
_cloudost: Apparently professional artists charge 150-+500 for a single commission, no way in hell will I ever pay someone for a digital drawing.
_cloudost: This looks literally like the art style of those Twitter/reddit artists who charge $20-$30 for a single commission, Musk steals art styles but no one cares because they all know this art style is garbage
zoermena: My health is so shit, as long as I don’t die I should hopefully be able to fix everything.
literallyvarane: Hhahahaaaha this is actually dogshit
.wolfnacht: he should hav gone the open source way! atleast would have gained some sympathy from people
.wolfnacht: yikes!
_cloudost:
_cloudost: The NIG is creative as well, and understands how to replicate the personality of a fictional character, it generated a comic based on  this screenshot
_cloudost:
_cloudost: And yet they want to slow down OpenAI
brain4brain: It’s actually impressive how badly his team can make it with all the compute and papers they have
_cloudost: The anime Version barely looks like Musk
brain4brain: This shit look so ass, I can’t believe he didn’t do this on purpose
st.sioux: concerning
_cloudost: The OpenAI's Native Image Generator is far FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR MORE better than Musk's grok
_cloudost: https://vxtwitter.com/elonmusk/status/1907327117563412944 Musk really thought this feature is useful LMAO
spicy.lemonade: deepmind always posts banger papers
spicy.lemonade: agi delayed by 6 months
spicy.lemonade: " A recent report in Financial Times claims that Google's DeepMind "has been holding back the release of its world-renowned research" to remain competitive. Accordingly the company will adopt a six-month embargo policy "before strategic papers related to generative AI are released".

In an interesting statement, a DeepMind researcher said he could "not imagine us putting out the transformer papers for general use now". Considering the impact of the DeepMind's transformer research on the development of LLMs, just think where we would have been now if they held back the research. The report also claims that some DeepMind staff left the company as their careers would be negatively affected if they are not allowed to publish their research. "
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: I love when a new benchmark drops
spicy.lemonade: Hooray
spicy.lemonade: New benchmark
spicy.lemonade: https://liveswebench.ai/
spicy.lemonade: no one drops on april fools


3ds0662: i guess he is just aura farming for now, he’ll probably tweet something positive about llama even though its an llm
.wolfnacht: The united federation of black sun.
st.sioux: guy porbabyl chilling
st.sioux: it came out like 2 microseconds ago bro chill
3ds0662: nothing about llama
3ds0662: yann last tweeted april 3rd
ailoveyoom: 🫡 🦙
_cloudost:
3ds0662:
st.sioux: llama 4
hey1_1hey: Llama 4
hey1_1hey: Seems it
ailoveyoom: Seems fr
literallyvarane: And it’s a Saturday. Have we ever had a major launch on a Saturday?
literallyvarane: I just walked into this chat and saw 102793629629 things
literallyvarane: Oh shit say less
ailoveyoom: I mean, their official account posted it no?

https://x.com/aiatmeta/status/1908598456144531660?s=46
3ds0662: let me check his twitter
.wolfnacht: also no one can run them
hey1_1hey: How many active params was deepseek?
3ds0662: lmaoo
.wolfnacht: 🥵
3ds0662: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/s/VR2qrwHeAh
.wolfnacht: can't wait for behemoth open-weights
hey1_1hey: Prob, he is prob still recovering from 4o native image gen
3ds0662: shouldnt he be ranting and dissapointed at another llm release?
3ds0662: btw where is yann lecun whats his name at?
hey1_1hey: This would be a ultra high tier troll
st.sioux: the design is very official
3ds0662: i cant wait for swe’s to be made obsolete superhuman coder then its ggs for everyone else
hey1_1hey: On the brightside Artists were done for last week
literallyvarane: How official is this llama stuff?
_cloudost: oh ok software engineers are safe for this week
3ds0662: but thats the other llama models context 10M
hey1_1hey: You had me hyped then
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016
3ds0662: jk dont jnow
_cloudost: rip software engineers
3ds0662: 10M
wellmeaningalien: that all you have to say


zoermena: Perhaps, honestly I would feel like a loser if I get to those times without ever being in a relationship.
_3sphere: Circular train 🔥
joaoluz19: Many people believed that once we reached that point, there would be an absurdly larger portion of people in these types of relationships.
hey1_1hey: Fractal is a nazi smh. Next hes going to us hes woke
fractalcomputer: It is obviously isomorphic to the cyclic group C_7.
okbut: A whole MIT pub just to say "Voice still sucks"
zoermena: I don’t use AI voice modes for that stuff, I guess it’ll be a different story once context lengths change (unless it’s accounted on the trial idk) and with FDVR.
hikukomoru: Literally fascism
hey1_1hey: Didn't know you were chill like that
joaoluz19: It's so over
_3sphere: What's the cock ring's associated addition group 😳
hey1_1hey: You're litterly schrodinger transgenderification. Turning people trans while also making fun of them being trans
joaoluz19:
fractalcomputer: Sigh. Muted for some small amount of time.
joaoluz19: You end up getting sick of AI
hikukomoru: No I have a few of these
ailoveyoom: What about cock rings
zoermena: What do you mean by diminishing returns? Relative to what.
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120
joaoluz19: Btw <@505313122802728972>  that MIT study showed that voice has diminishing returns, its over for waifus
hey1_1hey: 🥵
hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B125A-bNAiM
zoermena: I should take a shower.
okbut:
hey1_1hey: Feels like you just created that rn
hey1_1hey: Daddy david shapiro
hey1_1hey: Omg its my waifu <:uwu:1136266737420079195>
hikukomoru: Wdym
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
okbut: My "A" man? <:hmm:600480884755529729>
hey1_1hey: This feels a little *too* tailored
okbut: Plus my a man? what
hey1_1hey: I like cadburrys choclate, glad we could come to an understanding 🤝
hikukomoru:
fractalcomputer: And Noetherian rings.
fractalcomputer: Well I personally like ideals of rings. And I like maximal ideals.
hey1_1hey: (Note, I do not actually hate women. They are alright ig)
hey1_1hey: Was prob better before. Women always ruining everything am I right fellas
joaoluz19: Thanks for the tip! I just couldn't find the CI in my browser grok
okbut: Her whole work station is highly irradiated


hey1_1hey: Yeah mich mach is aroace smh
hikukomoru: You can't match my freak
hikukomoru: I thought you were down bad but I guess not <@430269783112548362>
hey1_1hey: You just gotta live your life innit
himekokatagiri: is gonna kill me
himekokatagiri: I swear the wait to 2029
hikukomoru: And the smell
hey1_1hey: Mich mach the type of guy to get over stimulated when being kissed
hikukomoru: In real life
hikukomoru: I don't like being kind
ailoveyoom: Maybe only in fiction
hikukomoru: The fluids are hot
ailoveyoom: Talking about sex 👍
Sex irl 😔
hey1_1hey: Just autism
hey1_1hey: Sounsd like over stimulation to me lil bro
futurist_wizard: Masturbation to a screen isn't sex
destrucules: That's who they are. Be kind
hikukomoru: You of all people saying that
ailoveyoom: All those fluids
ailoveyoom: Sex is very eww tbh
hikukomoru: Sounds extremely cringe
hey1_1hey: Mushrooms?
hey1_1hey: I know a good few aro ace people and they are all weirdos
hikukomoru: What's the point of life if you can't sex
destrucules: Aromantic (doesn't want romance) + asexual (doesn't experience strong sexual attraction)
himekokatagiri: that ain't living
hikukomoru: Ew
hey1_1hey: Booo
himekokatagiri: no way
himekokatagiri: bro
futurist_wizard: Means you have no sexual feelings at all
valimil: aro ace is boring, can't explore 9999999 new genders in fdvr to the full potential
himekokatagiri: 🪖
himekokatagiri: I'm gelbooru's strongest soldier
mantegh5061: anyway
himekokatagiri: what
hey1_1hey: Sounds likea card game
mantegh5061: no it was discord account
hikukomoru: What's an aro ace
futurist_wizard: Are you asexual


sweetievee__33649: you just said a bunch of contrasting things
sweetievee__33649: thats made up
spicy.lemonade: o3 full is gonna be competative
sweetievee__33649: WHAT
hikukomoru: jgudy is a former member here
A gay ex muslim somalian living in Britain
spicy.lemonade:
hikukomoru: The more I hear about him the more I hate this guy
futurist_wizard: No discord server owner has sex
sweetievee__33649: who?
hikukomoru: Wtf
I didn't know that
So he's cheating on jgudy too
sweetievee__33649: happnes to the best of us
sweetievee__33649: i heard one time that him and the server owner got into a relationship 👉 👈
futurist_wizard: He thought those were his balls
futurist_wizard: He cut off his asscheeks as well
hikukomoru: Yeah, and he shared the pics here too
My eyes never recovered from that
sweetievee__33649: this person doesnt exist
sweetievee__33649: i am not beleving anything you guys say anymore 💔
futurist_wizard: I believe the DIY castration went severely wrong and he has perma ED
sweetievee__33649: this isnt real
aero447: Susphere,
sweetievee__33649: NO SHOT
hikukomoru: I didn't mean doing shrooms like that
I mean that he has a mushroom fetish
futurist_wizard: Yes its very sad
sweetievee__33649: you guys are just pulling my leg now
sweetievee__33649: no way
sweetievee__33649: the last part is somewhat commendable atleast...?
futurist_wizard: A lot
futurist_wizard: So hes gonna be on technology
futurist_wizard: Hes on here a lot ya know, most of the day he has to be in a wheelchair or use crutches
hikukomoru: He doesn't care
He'll come in here and start talking about doing shrooms
sweetievee__33649: has anyone told him to yanno... not to..?
hikukomoru: He shares every single thing about himself
futurist_wizard: I played the 'ill show you mine if you show me yours' game as a kid
sweetievee__33649: why do you know all this 😭
joaoluz19: https://youtu.be/1iqra1ojEvM
hikukomoru: Doesn't he have ED too
hikukomoru: If I tell what part of PT I'm from will you tell yours
futurist_wizard: He has wrinkles and those grey blue veins on his hands and hes only 12
hikukomoru: 14
retrerox: Dont worry there is hairtransplant now


hey1_1hey: Theres like 4 here bruh
hikukomoru: Figure yourself out cuz youre confusing me
hey1_1hey: Nah big manly man innit 💪
hikukomoru: Prolly trans or smth idk bruh
.wolfnacht: girls in singularity sewer ? 😳
himekokatagiri: I'm glad the people in this discord don't have a say in how scientific progress is conducted because jesus
hey1_1hey: I dont even act gay either. I am just autistic
wellmeaningalien: spot on
wellmeaningalien: see
hey1_1hey: Bi, but sure. Lets go with that
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-24919715
wellmeaningalien: youre gay!
.wolfnacht: u cannot rewire the biology, hence i found that cloning better humans is more ethical
hikukomoru: I thought I made it clear I'm a 50 year old bald divorced bulgarian cuckold?
hey1_1hey: No hes a 43 year old man
_3sphere: You're a girl?
hikukomoru: Mmm yea I can see how I can seem boyish
hey1_1hey: What does this say about me then. Since I mostly had girl friends <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
himekokatagiri: Not yet!!!
futurist_wizard: Not a judgement
futurist_wizard: Yeah but i mean you act boyish in your nature, there are girls who also grow up with mostly guy friends but they enjoy the attention aspect
hikukomoru: I grew up with mostly dudes as friends
futurist_wizard: Wtf am i reading
.wolfnacht: >everyone is out to get you

I can relate with that, i found that no matter whatever i do, no one would take my side ever even if i'm right hence, i'm fine being alone and learning to be on my own.

>you are in a movie set and everyone around you is actors

This world is a movie set with a script written by someone else...think of them the cabals doing rituals to moloch and baal.

Schizo bros ain't wrong they just saw behind the veil.
hikukomoru: This is my disorder
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/lick-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-snail-gif-11908872455029987581
wellmeaningalien: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-season-1-pizza-delivery-spongebob-pizza-delivery-gif-3878468382328492802
wellmeaningalien: im spongebob disorder
futurist_wizard: She was a sociopath, unrelated
futurist_wizard: You remind me of a girl in my college who was able to gel well with guys she was tomboyish
hikukomoru: I have some traits but I really don't like self-diagnosing
hey1_1hey: Well atleast now I know am defintly not shizoid
.wolfnacht: so us..
hey1_1hey: Then theres dellusions though like thinking everyone is out to get you and everyone is trying to kill you. Then theres the weirdly common one where you think you are in a movie set and everyone around you is actors and you are waiting for any miniute for the host to come out, the walls draw upwards, everyone starts clapping
.wolfnacht: mutual one....(u know the ones who do anything on each other)
futurist_wizard: I see mushroom is
hikukomoru: I thought it was obvious my sanity is long gone
hikukomoru:
.wolfnacht: being a real schizo isn't that bad, think of all the hallucinations either auditory or visual u get and/ + all the new friends
hey1_1hey: Hmmm


rayanquitplayin: Like MrBeast?
rayanquitplayin: Are there any YouTubers that are really good at ads?
metaldragon01: Some ads I thought would be terrible ended up being amazing
metaldragon01: The best ads ever eventually get stale but also you could have a Rockstar ad you never tested
rayanquitplayin: I see
metaldragon01: People will just get ad blind over time if it never changes
metaldragon01: Very...
rayanquitplayin: How important is the unique creative?
metaldragon01: Lots of different types of marketing

Email marketing yes.

Banner ads no. You want unique creatives often
metaldragon01: Um....depends?
rayanquitplayin: Do you think consistency is important in mkting?
metaldragon01: Most products as long as it's not crazy unique the algo will optimize given enough time, money and creatives to work through
rayanquitplayin: What’s media buying?
metaldragon01: What matters is not blowing through budget without results
rayanquitplayin: They taught me that in college, my professor said it’s a big thing people learn in marketing
metaldragon01: Always more room for automation
st.sioux: idk
st.sioux: or is that not marketing
st.sioux: and do you think there's no space for more automation in social media management at least?
metaldragon01: No I wouldn't consider those marketing
st.sioux: Product, Price, Place (or Distribution), and Promotion
rayanquitplayin: They teach it in business schools
metaldragon01: I mostly focused on media buying
metaldragon01: What are these 4 ps?  I'm not up on the recent lingo
rayanquitplayin: Do you consider the 4 P’s marketing?
metaldragon01: It's all a numbers game and there's a ton of ads you never see
metaldragon01: Did marketing for a long time
rayanquitplayin: Branding?
st.sioux: you're in marketing?
metaldragon01: Ads aren't really marketing. Small part of the job tbh
rayanquitplayin: What do you think about the fully AI Coke ad?
st.sioux: its not fully automated
metaldragon01: Nah. Marketing has been automated forever. People just don't want to spend what they have to in order to optimize ads
rayanquitplayin: I really wanna know this: do y’all think AI will automate the gambling industry?
st.sioux: its little nate's bedtime 😻
fractalcomputer: Now, I have an hour long trip of travelling on public transport ahead of me, so I'd very much like to concentrate on reading a book about number theory now.
fractalcomputer: We both agree on that. Your argument is that modern language models specifically are capable of performing systematic mathematical research. I think not. Having a good foundational knowledge only goes halfway there; the very best mathematicians are known to have derived important results on their own—mathematics is first and foremost about rigour (a metacognitive skill), a priori thinking and *vision* or heuristics.
rayanquitplayin: To me it is
fractalcomputer: Both.
fractalcomputer: Not really.


spicy.lemonade: like the animal
spicy.lemonade: your furry personality
memlaswaif: wait
memlaswaif: what's a sona
spicy.lemonade: they only took like 10 mins for me
maintcrew: damn they need to manually approve me this shit is gay
maintcrew: thanks
spicy.lemonade: Temple
maintcrew:
spicy.lemonade: heh
spicy.lemonade: spammers
spicy.lemonade: its to stop ai
spicy.lemonade: yeah
memlaswaif: wow it's very gatekeeped
spicy.lemonade: https://discord.gg/hdu5trT2
hikukomoru: I look like that vro 🙏
alejandrozarzuelo: great
alejandrozarzuelo: i could join then
maintcrew: change to evil hello kitty pfp this one has more of a lifeless/tired vibe
anathemaofmankind: Bro is the lolicon here
spicy.lemonade: and have an art drawing of them
anathemaofmankind: This is literally a child
zonchao: <:LookUp:1151260447283097681>
spicy.lemonade: make up a whole personality
spicy.lemonade: as a furry
spicy.lemonade: you have to apply
spicy.lemonade: also to join
hikukomoru:
spicy.lemonade: youre gonna blow my cover💀
hikukomoru: I love being evil
zonchao: 😭😭😭😭
zonchao: plapplapplap
anathemaofmankind: Drop server link <@471334973379706900>
anathemaofmankind: Nah let us
alejandrozarzuelo: lets just do a bit of trolling
alejandrozarzuelo: lets not be evil
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah
maintcrew: SSS rank gacha drop tweet
maintcrew: japanese twitter lootbox
memlaswaif: do it to that ai hater mod


sweetievee__33649: komoru how much do you bench
wellmeaningalien: I'll just say that 4 years of swimming, cycling everyday 2 years and taekwondo yellow belt has made my calves a menace
sweetievee__33649: entery requirements here are insane
fractalcomputer: Yes.
futurist_wizard: Philosophical users don't eat food
sweetievee__33649: am i supposed to bench 225 or something
sweetievee__33649: i dont...?
fractalcomputer: How much do you bench?
futurist_wizard: Fractal is probably skinny
hikukomoru: Chopping trees down and wrestling bears
sweetievee__33649: is he the type of person to calculate his width in nautical miles
wellmeaningalien: https://media.tenor.com/jpNJqKdwLr0AAAAM/edgerunners.gif
technocake.: I don't know what you get up to away from the keyboard
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/the-office-kill-joy-meanie-thief-of-joy-gif-17139895
sweetievee__33649: yeah whats wrong with fractal <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: Fractal is a number freak
fractalcomputer: Except *maybe* Fractal?
futurist_wizard: I think anime is pedophilic nonsense
aero447: -Siev.
hikukomoru: Anime grandmothers lookin like 15 yeard old girls
aero447: Keep the fetish posting to an absolute maximum thank you.
sweetievee__33649: straight pedo defense
technocake.: everyone in here is a creeper, except maybe fractal
futurist_wizard: All anime characters look 12
aero447: Guys.
hikukomoru: Don't hot face react that pic
wellmeaningalien: Tbh I don't think if you post ur face here anything bad is gonna happens. Nobody calling the cyber opps on this nerd ass bitch server. We just too shy
sweetievee__33649: mich mach they look like 12 years old 🥀
hikukomoru:
futurist_wizard: My pfp used to be my face
hikukomoru: I'm more
hikukomoru: I'm not as mentally ill as Alejandro
futurist_wizard: Its not risky, its just they want to be anonymous
futurist_wizard: Risky?
wellmeaningalien: Ahahahahahhaha you just as mentally ill as Alejandro if you think you Latina
sweetievee__33649: in what way are there some creepers in here or something
wellmeaningalien: Wtf my phone is racist it hates AAVE it autocorrects yall to tall
_3sphere: Is risky
sweetievee__33649: id support this if a politician put this in their plan
hikukomoru: I'm a real latina baddie


spicy.lemonade: egg head
zonchao: https://vxtwitter.com/pmarca/status/1902724994607570975
spicy.lemonade: semantics and what not
spicy.lemonade: and argue based on your defenition of agi
spicy.lemonade: you could make arguements
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: ngl any time between now and 2030 would be correct
sarik0497: So I think he believes it may come even sooner
sarik0497: He didn’t specific that much yet. I’ll update when I hear more.

Although I’d like to add one small correction. While he keeps his 2029 prediction, it feels more like it’s due to “nostalgic” rather than an estimated guess these days, and he even mentioned that it’s a “conservative” prediction now.
spicy.lemonade: whats his complaint about hardware
sarik0497: From what I can tell, the reason why Kurzeweil’s prediction is still at 2029 is also due to hardware not being there yet
sarik0497: Especially when you also factor in some of his other predictions like LEV and mind uploading
sarik0497: Seems like it. Although I’d say his definition of AGI is closer to ASI
zoermena: I’ll look into it Thanks! 👍
zoermena: Grats on the good thing btw
zoermena: I mean sure but I’d rather buy something that I’m certain will work guided by a doctor yk
.wolfnacht: bro's gonna reclaim all the lost pensioners, money back from india.
okbut: I haven't yet found a CI prompt that makes CGPT/etc recognize when I'm using shitty/dumb terms for a topic and respond "Are you sure you don't want --?" or "Are you sure you don't mean --?"

They either overdo it or don't do it when it's needed
brain4brain: What’s his updated AGI timeline, is he still a 2029er
sarik0497: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QkgHbVoz6N0&t=1181s&pp=2AGdCZACAQ%3D%3D

Anyone watched this yet?
sarik0497: Yeah…that’s why when I wanna discuss philosophical questions I just say it here. That way, if I say something stupid, Fractal will be sure to tell me thus.
okbut: The battle of user approval requiring pretending the user is the genius
sarik0497: Same. It’s the same with discussions. I don’t want an AI that just goes “You’re so right!” non-stop. Give me some “fight” and argue against me if it’s actually stupid.
sarik0497: Hmm. I’ll check her out. Thanks!
okbut: When I ask for a webpage in html css and js, o1 did it
Now maybe models will say "That's stupid, typescript"
okbut: This is actually what I have been wanting from AI, to tell me "that's stupid, here's why"
futurist_wizard: Whenever she makes videos on ai
futurist_wizard: That is sometimes Sabine Hossenfelder
sarik0497: We’re getting AI wanting consent before GTA 6
okbut: >Vibe coding front end
>Ask Sonnett to fix the rounded corners on images
>"No" <:GIGACHAD:1159748479535558718>

Honestly I aint even mad
sarik0497: As a smart, perfect guy once said: “Don’t hate the Cell player, hate the Cell Game.”
sarik0497: But I do find some of her videos quite intriguing. I just wish I could find a “neutral” AI youtube channel that isn’t either all out hype or all out doom
ailoveyoom: Don't hate the playa, hate the game
sarik0497: Indeed. Going all out with the clickbait <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
futurist_wizard: Jesus shes also retarded, looking at her channel
sarik0497: Her AI avatar is pretty cool, though
sarik0497: I mean, is her prediction any different from Sam and Dario’s?
futurist_wizard: Obviously a hypist?
sarik0497: So… what is everyone’s opinion of her: https://m.youtube.com/@JuliaMcCoy/videos

Hypist or not?
sarik0497: <:sadge:892224282363588679>

Back to cryo sleep then. Wake me when AGI is here


memlaswaif: Well idk
memlaswaif: They r probably consious
memlaswaif: even if we give them all these rights what would they do it with it because we programmed it to do nothing else then be a slave
hikukomoru: Animals are sentient, not conscious
fractalcomputer: I'm a me-supremacist.
hikukomoru: Autistic supemacist
technocake.: Are you an anything supremacist perchance?
memlaswaif: we r making ai to be like a slave species like the ethical dilemmas starts from there
fractalcomputer: Yes.
memlaswaif: idk animals r also probably conscious and they have next to zero rights
nsec: <:based:848130804672626698>
nsec: looks like a plunger
trojan09205: Veo2
“A mushroom going through hormone transition treatment”
nsec: mf with 12 pack
nsec: real?
nsec:
nsec: why is her head a bepis
hey1_1hey: This feels like a scalpal level of precicion
hey1_1hey: This feels a little targetted
hey1_1hey: Holy moly
hikukomoru: Holy fuck I just found this when looking for shroomjak memes
<@439829942310666250>
hey1_1hey: Don't get me started, I have sent HUNDREDS of emails showing my dissatisfaction because of the way they are portraying us mushroom folk and yet I have been ignored.
hey1_1hey: Go ahead
nsec: how do u feel regarding the discrimination shown to ur people in the HBO series the last of us
hey1_1hey: I will not ellaborate further on the second point
hey1_1hey: Not to mention they can make some killer beats
hey1_1hey: Smth or other. They do speak through their mycelium but its compeltly uninteligble to humans
nsec: <@439829942310666250> real question sir
hikukomoru: Is that the mushroom language
hikukomoru: "kevette angell liingete ineivte"
hey1_1hey: PS6 showed this, this is what I call peak
ailoveyoom: Imagine open source Opus tho 🥺
nsec: damn mushroom guys wife is hot
hikukomoru: And why does that matter
All that matters is if they are conscious or not
Would you deny a conscious being rights?
hikukomoru:
memlaswaif: idk I feel like this could go wrong a number of ways
hey1_1hey: Purly for educatinol reasons though of course
memlaswaif: they r not the same as us though
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-19213917
nsec: believe


zonchao: Why are you discussing such topics in <#1136230110891081821> ?
fractalcomputer: On another note, Dvorák is quite good as a composer.
fractalcomputer: https://tenor.com/view/godfather-cat-petting-pet-gif-22666459
.wolfnacht: yea, i mean back to ~~neonazi bashing~~ i mean Digi artists bashing
fractalcomputer: You grace us with your presence.
hikukomoru: <@749514473303179358> Can u be the godfather to Zon and Elon's baby 🙏
zonchao: truly
hey1_1hey: This guy and Elon would be really good parents 😊
otub:
hey1_1hey: We keep criss corssing between unrelated things and singularity it seems
fractalcomputer: Why are you discussing such topics in <#1136230110891081821> ?
.wolfnacht: maybe gorl.........AHH IDK
hey1_1hey: I am NOTHING like that
hey1_1hey: You did the same thing to me bro 😭
hikukomoru: What's their/it/he/her pronourns
hey1_1hey: Did they die or smth
.wolfnacht: dat was back in 2022 😔
futurist_wizard: So you be stalking them
hey1_1hey: Whats the gender?
hey1_1hey: Hope so 🤞
zonchao: coming weeks
hikukomoru: <@750270494615404544> are you pregnant with Elon's baby
.wolfnacht: he's a bit famous on tiktok, idk i don't use that shithole of a app
hey1_1hey: We are talking about normal things
hey1_1hey: Oh yes hello zon
hey1_1hey: Mpreg 🥵
zonchao: <:Bruh:1071908479884873891>
.wolfnacht: maybe he is. 😨
futurist_wizard: I've seen that person before
hey1_1hey: YOUR PREGNENT?
hikukomoru: Sorry that was me
hey1_1hey: Mf looks pregnent
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: I am extreamly bent
.wolfnacht:
hey1_1hey: (Note, I have not been groomed before. This is a joke)
.wolfnacht: what if he's genderbent ?
hey1_1hey: You're alright ig, I've had better
hikukomoru:
hey1_1hey: Danserk is trying to get me out of being groomed


_cloudost: $0.35 per second
sarik0497: Bye bye, 1 billion dollars data centers.
sarik0497: welp
sarik0497: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jv63ew/microsoft_backing_off_building_new_1b_data_center/
st.sioux: yea theyre just manipulating the market so they can buy low after the poors had to sell
jonvi_1: Saying it was fake news, they just announced a 90-day tariff pause 🙃
jonvi_1: Do you remember how the White House demented the message about a 90-day tariff pause yesterday?
st.sioux: vertex ai
_cloudost: Where's Veo 2
_cloudost: The stream is over
ldj:
ldj: The future is now
ailoveyoom: The latency still feels noticable to me
st.sioux: zamnn
st.sioux: google just killed call centers
spicy.lemonade: Where tf is qwen
spicy.lemonade: Need sota now
spicy.lemonade: Been ages since sota
futurist_wizard: My favourite subreddit is now /artisthate
futurist_wizard:
futurist_wizard: All its done is betray me
futurist_wizard: I hate ai now
retrerox: Me in the mirror
futurist_wizard: GayGI now
hikukomoru: Where Gemini 3.0
hikukomoru: Hype dead
retrerox: today i can get medium +3 ingredients for 5.95
retrerox: In the meantime ill get some papa johns pizza
retrerox: What if AGI was just our parents
futurist_wizard: Facts
hikukomoru: Yawnnnn
Where AGI
wellmeaningalien: gonna blast kercheow
futurist_wizard: STOP THE LIVESTREAM
_cloudost: Soon all antis will become permanently asleep. AGI IS HERE AND WHOEVER OPPOSES AI WILL FACE CONSEQUENCES
-# This user is under surveillance by the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigaton). Do not contact this user. They are the subject of a criminal case under 18 U.S.C code 1203 effective April 9, 2025. [Learn More](<https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-11-hostage-taking-18-usc-1203>)
st.sioux: brainrot zoomer
futurist_wizard: I don't like it
futurist_wizard: This livestream is boring
wellmeaningalien: love that ai is getting better and cheaper so now you have an oracle to ask dumb shit to basically
wellmeaningalien: ❌
hikukomoru: >using blender on a laptop
Does he know


trojan09205:
precariousworlds.: how has ur day been trojan
precariousworlds.: indeed brother
trojan09205: The goated of the goats
precariousworlds.: one of the best
precariousworlds.: goated thursday
trojan09205: Fuck yah
precariousworlds.: 💪💪💪
trojan09205: Lfg!!!
precariousworlds.: This day was a good day
trojan09205: This morning was a good morning
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-year-date-number-date-year-2020s-gif-2533552122884439977
zoermena: Very interesting clip
futurist_wizard: Definitely praying it's sometime in the future it can cure GERD
futurist_wizard: Man, when is AI gonna get it's act together and start curing shit
aero447: And Optimus Gen 3!
aero447: Starship going to the moon.
zonchao: soon
zonchao: true
aero447: We careabout a new FSD update.
aero447: Elon needs to realize we don't care if he's a good gamer.
aero447: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
aero447: Dude regularly lies about playing video games.
zonchao: <:lmao:1058916507092013077> he thinks the noos is real
zonchao: <a:explaining:1238804078172180480>
aero447: Guess the world's smartest guy can't use the net.
aero447: https://www.factcheck.org/2025/04/musks-unsupported-claim-to-have-unveiled-massive-illegal-voting-by-noncitizens/
https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/mar/12/elon-musk-social-security-fraud-how-waste-fraud/
https://apnews.com/article/fema-migrants-nyc-funding-luxury-hotels-doge-c7d2c0b029bc653293a478b4bf5d59b1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/02/19/musk-social-security-fraud-debunked/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-pokeclicker-gif-7294241466965530806
realelonmuskx: must repopulate
zonchao: i dont think there is a huge difference between them
zonchao: <:CarThumbsUp_123:1328456747941232772>
3ds0662: it should be knowledge seeking not truth seeking
3ds0662: thats why it feel's jarring when elon says he wants to make the most truth seeking ai? what truth is he defining his own? and how does that help the ai grow in intelligence or solve the problem at hand?
3ds0662: *ideas, and thoughts both contain truth, they both contain error*

~but to get to my destination its enough if I remove errors to the extent that they are relevant to the problem that I want to solve
3ds0662: but yeah I agree more with what he's saying **"we seek knowledge but not truth and we can find knowledge in the sense that we can correct existing knowledge by removing errors thats what the growth of knowledge always is" **
3ds0662: its missing context though cause it was built over the earlier parts of the pod
3ds0662: on now why I disagree with the whole truth seeking thing
3ds0662: timestamped it
3ds0662: https://youtu.be/rpP9sqbQzjs?t=4150
sarik0497:


spicy.lemonade: "the girls are gonna love this"
brain4brain: In their defense, they were given IP right
anathemaofmankind: Imagine if studio ghibli used AI in their project

That would be the funniest shit ever
spicy.lemonade: is it stolen?
spicy.lemonade: their style looks very similar
spicy.lemonade: these are 2 different comic book artists
anathemaofmankind: That's why they became artists instead of programmers <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spicy.lemonade: how else do they devlop art styles
spicy.lemonade: AI is just beter human artists lol. technically human artists steal art
_cloudost: Antis don't take a moment to think
anathemaofmankind: Do antis even understand that
.histic: but yeah, they falled for it.
.histic: can't get sued for artistic style.
spicy.lemonade: and obviously it can
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: because thats what aider polyglot tests
spicy.lemonade: no im sayong that the programmers saying that "ai cant translate code from one language to another" is dumb
_cloudost: Anti AI people are sharing this without checking if it's a legit letter or not, just saw som anti posting it in another server
anathemaofmankind: What a creative naming scheme
.histic:
.histic: i mean DeeperSearch
anathemaofmankind: How well does it do on the benchmark
mihrcelium: (I didn't know it was called "DeeperResearch." <:sigh:1126597462115758110> )
spicy.lemonade: 🤦♂
spicy.lemonade: this is literally aider polyglot benchmark
spicy.lemonade:
.histic: Mutahar said he uses Grok's DeeperResearch on the daily.. interesting.
spicy.lemonade: https://youtu.be/R51lAC_n_lw
anathemaofmankind: I just want the basilisk to come alive and reduce these ppl to amorphous blobs
anathemaofmankind: Oh my god I can't man
spicy.lemonade: annoying
spicy.lemonade: every normie thinks this
spicy.lemonade: its not a filter
spicy.lemonade: 💀
anathemaofmankind: That's so dumb
spicy.lemonade: bro he thinks all it does is filter
.histic: it is better than what artist can create therefore it should be illegal.
that's what i'm hearing.
anathemaofmankind: He's beefing with hasan right now
.histic: but he either makes great takes or the most low IQ dumb takes
anathemaofmankind: I hope mutahar gets into more drama and gets his channel removed


czdct: yea he's basically built like a silver back gorilla...
memlaswaif: <@312370916820779040> should we listen to this guy
hey1_1hey: Its not just common knowledge that everyone is born with
hey1_1hey: How do you know about this though is my question...
hey1_1hey: If only he wasn't a smurf
czdct: yeah he has an amazing physique
alejandrozarzuelo: its just a fact of the smurf species
alejandrozarzuelo: its not disturbing or anything
alejandrozarzuelo: ruining your childhood? dude thats how thousands of insect species work
hey1_1hey: Also he hits calfs and glutes 6x a week which is crazy
czdct: thank you for ruining my childhood at 3AM in the morning
hey1_1hey: I am curios
hey1_1hey: I do
hey1_1hey: Oh ok its a naked smurf
Oh ok its looking out at d-day
alejandrozarzuelo: btw, the male smurfs are all just the reproductive organs of smurphette, they live in a hive
czdct: I don't even want to know what the prompt was tbh
czdct: it's the filth that just keeps rotting away
hey1_1hey: The more you look into the worse it gets
czdct: but at what cost?
czdct: we got better AI image generations
czdct:
hey1_1hey: Maybe, we wont know for the foreseeable future either though because its unlikely they will open source their... papers? Can you do that? You know what I mean though.
ailoveyoom: I mean who knows, maybe other labs have been doing the same research too but we just don't know cause they never publish it
hey1_1hey: Although I have actually read half of the abstract and even the full summary one time so yanno. Its a pretty big deal 😎
hey1_1hey: So baseiclly an expert then
ailoveyoom: (I literally only read the titles and abstract)
ailoveyoom: They've released some pretty banger papers tho
sweetievee__33649: idk i wouldnt count it out im hoprful atleast
hey1_1hey: I mean I have a total of 0 hope for Llama 4 anyway but oh well
hey1_1hey: No shot
professorheaven: Llama con is on April 29th so it makes sense that they’ll release it then
fractalcomputer: The idea that Marcus reads r/singularity disturbs me.
fractalcomputer: https://x.com/GaryMarcus/status/1906472200779207043?t=xU_jcrXRpoAtU3PyHQriZg&s=19
wolf3404: Is this real
aero447: Wheel*
aero447: Wrong.
spicy.lemonade: interesting times ahead
spicy.lemonade: with rumors
spicy.lemonade: new model name pops up
spicy.lemonade: its that time


zonchao: ah well he didn't leave the gc
hikukomoru: He got cancelled
hikukomoru: The racism allegations got to him
hikukomoru: Yeah he left
memlaswaif: <@590577270926868480> it's ure turn next
zonchao: my twin 😭
zonchao: did he leave
zonchao: wait what
memlaswaif: oh wow danserk is dead
st.sioux: idk i just said thats what i remember
st.sioux: you can look up his chat messages or something idk
hikukomoru: I don’t remember him ever being actually racist
hikukomoru: Yeah jgudy is a gay British somalian
st.sioux: it ends with ai wiping humans by 2030
st.sioux: i just remember jgudy sent a gif of the twin towers once or some shit
st.sioux: danserk idk about jgudy
zonchao: <a:wave:1145412732913459281>
hikukomoru: Danserk or jgudy?
st.sioux: theyre just edgy
clevermoniker: I haven't finished reading it but i assume it ends with all of us dead, so i don't know why you think that is cool
brain4brain: Super scuff
brain4brain: This is like the computer ping pong
wellmeaningalien: i think we know with google doom that there's no special trick beyond just pure memorization
st.sioux: i would test it more but its super hard to control, arrow key movement and low fps
brain4brain: It seems to remember the field in the middle but I’m not sure if it’s real or some clever trick that only work for this map
brain4brain: Anyone wanna play Minecraft?
st.sioux: yea i think so
wellmeaningalien: i think u can use ur spatial intelligence to tell
brain4brain: Does it have spatial memory I can’t test it
brain4brain: It’s running on your own browser
wellmeaningalien: is that lik a fully ai generated game a la google doom
wellmeaningalien: what is that lol
st.sioux: i got like 3 fps
st.sioux:
brain4brain: AI generated videogame, only good feature of it
brain4brain: https://x.com/hesamation/status/1908631442902376448?s=61
inferno0879: lol
st.sioux: 🤢 🤮
st.sioux: this screams low test to me bro
wellmeaningalien: its fine


hey1_1hey: addressing your friends by last time is psychotic
hikukomoru: Can I call you berry 💖
alejandrozarzuelo: This is a fennec
alejandrozarzuelo: Zarzu is an abbreviation of Zarzuelo, my surname, that's what my friends call me

It means blackberry
technocake.: doesn't it mean fox in spanish?
hey1_1hey: The singulitards got him
alejandrozarzuelo: OK you definitely don't know Spanish
alejandrozarzuelo: ???
hey1_1hey: 💀
technocake.: zorra
hikukomoru: I miss the old Alejandro
hikukomoru: You haven't been the same ever since you returned from that orgy...
futurist_wizard: Its obvious
oooooooooog: GET THAT ARNOLD THE ARDVARK PFP AWAY FR I CANT TAKE IT
alejandrozarzuelo: What
alejandrozarzuelo: ?
hey1_1hey: He always was
oooooooooog: ALEJANDRO WHY DID YOU BECOME WOKE
futurist_wizard: Okay, is your pfp, not you but the pfp a top or bottom, pick one
hey1_1hey: That fox really giving me "I kiss the homies good night but it's ok because it's not that but at night thinks about why they are a horrible person" vibes
alejandrozarzuelo: You know that's the problem with my new pfp?

It isn't elitist enough
hikukomoru: Gay is a compliment
alejandrozarzuelo: I don't see it
hey1_1hey: Actually a peak comment to make
hey1_1hey: You do call everything gay
futurist_wizard: Just look at it
hey1_1hey: No no he's got a point
futurist_wizard: Come on, that fox is definitely getting rammed regularly
hikukomoru: Alejandro I don't call everything gay
Just you 💖
.histic: my goodness
futurist_wizard: Minecraft in 2014
jonvi_1: Devs show is cool but idk if there are that many cool visuals to prompt with
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude you call everything gay, whats gay about that lmao
zoermena: Yes I’m wired to data center
hey1_1hey: Are teams are the companies and the players are the ceos
technocake.: it is
hikukomoru: It looks like an annoying gay fox saying "ermmm ackshually"
technocake.: oh wow you remembered
hey1_1hey: It is tho
zoermena: <@200624453795708928> Once said the singularity is sports for autists IIRC


drewsni: So he’s just retarded
drewsni: Oh
hey1_1hey: If I remember correctly it was on a video about AI ads and how they are becoming more prevalent
drewsni: I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and maybe he means AI art can’t be copyrighted?
hey1_1hey: Joking*
hey1_1hey: I hope hes chocking for this sake 🙏
hey1_1hey: This guy is so cooked its unbelievable
st.sioux: going b2c with androids specially when the market is so small and underdeveloped is stupidly risky
st.sioux: doubt it
wellmeaningalien: cool
joaoluz19: A study from MIT
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> Lets goooo this was exactly what I was waiting for
alejandrozarzuelo: Because the other companies aren't selling to the average person
alejandrozarzuelo: It's not the best Android, but it will be the best CONSUMER Android
alejandrozarzuelo: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2025/03/18/best-in-world-humanoid-robot-to-launch-in-june--in-europe/
wellmeaningalien: eurocope
st.sioux: just a rover
wellmeaningalien: that said I'd still be skeptical of any Twitter leaker
st.sioux: do you have any link to their stuff? i googled it and cant find anything
wellmeaningalien: that's like asking why is 70% on SWE BENCH impressive we gotta see the other benchmarks first.
alejandrozarzuelo: or so it seems
alejandrozarzuelo: it will be released in june
alejandrozarzuelo: not just for labs
alejandrozarzuelo: apparently they will launch the most advanced consumer-grade android that there is
alejandrozarzuelo: its a european android company
alejandrozarzuelo: at this rate the US will be the third superpower when it comes to robotics
alejandrozarzuelo: Have yall talkied about Nerva?
sarik0497: Can someone smarter than me explain what’s with the hype about a high ARC-AGI score?

It’s cool and all, don’t get me wrong, but unless it can perform just as well or fairly close to that for all new tests, then it just seems like wanting to brag.
futurist_wizard: Why are you posting bullshit accounts
metaldragon01: Very unlikely
zonchao:
zonchao: but probably
zonchao: i havent tested it yet
_cloudost: is it less restrictive than Gemini
_cloudost: deeply R2
_cloudost: thats higher than o3 full
_cloudost: R2
_cloudost: deepseek
_cloudost: https://x.com/SmokeAwayyy/status/1903115511803809895
futurist_wizard: terminal twink death


alejandrozarzuelo: have you seen my hair?
a1c4p0ne: I wouldn’t mind
wellmeaningalien: me neither lmao im not sure theres even anything in the image to make me think its ai
zoermena: No
technocake.: honestly no
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Don't even try unless you want to end up with your cock and balls missing
wellmeaningalien: would u guys ever guess this is ai generated top to bottom
alejandrozarzuelo: (also my hair is a BIT longer)
alejandrozarzuelo: haha
alejandrozarzuelo: this is literally the opposite of my style
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/omori-omori-omori-omori-red-omori-chara-omori-kill-gif-15233210225542004583
hikukomoru: You're being a freaky ass dude
Only MichMach can be freaky like that
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/you-look-lonely-i-can-fix-that-bladerunner2049-gif-27127278
oooooooooog: yes it can
futurist_wizard: And all the dried blood stains and the vomit on the walls, the torn rusted wallpaper? It can't fix all of it
alejandrozarzuelo: not croptops
alejandrozarzuelo: oh come on, you know I wear preppy semi-formal sweaters
hikukomoru: This pic instinctively made me puke
zoermena: Lmfao
wellmeaningalien: hive vs gpt 4o
mihrcelium: 💀💀💀
a1c4p0ne: Why
hikukomoru: You should get castrated
oooooooooog: just ask GPT to make it an alive pig
futurist_wizard: I can't, the dead pig in the corner of the room is too embarrassing
a1c4p0ne: Post it
futurist_wizard: I had a shirtless pic of myself i Ghibli'd, my room is fucked in it though so I'd never post
a1c4p0ne: You should get bangs
hikukomoru: No I don't have bangs
zoermena: Alejandro soft core?
futurist_wizard: Don't perv on komoru
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/rust-cohle-rust-true-detective-matthew-mcconaughey-smoking-gif-11084660053752137731
a1c4p0ne: Just curious
hikukomoru: Why are you asking it horny boy
a1c4p0ne: <@505313122802728972> do you have bangs
hikukomoru: That's jsut sad
hikukomoru: Don't sunglasses react your own message
alejandrozarzuelo: but yeah im a pretty hardcore globalist cosmopolitan
alejandrozarzuelo: its too personal


spicy.lemonade: oh no
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: with oais
spicy.lemonade: this is gonna be good in combination
spicy.lemonade: https://x.com/dreamingtulpa/status/1904821398759235988
jonvi_1: (I did prompt it with images for those two though but I reckon you could prompt something similar without image input too)
jonvi_1: Yeah it's like, obviously practical now which is crazy
zoermena: Cool
spicy.lemonade: its crazy
ldj: Still true
jonvi_1: what
spicy.lemonade: dude
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Lol
jonvi_1:
jonvi_1:
spicy.lemonade: remastered
spicy.lemonade:
joaoluz19: Bro, it's from California Gurls 💀
gamerbath: they seem very similar to me
trent_k: Apparently similar enough that OAI's team decided to pull the voice
trent_k: I've heard the comparisons and I think especially given the context it's pretty similar
ldj: True
joaoluz19: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-7ZB2s9Cs
joaoluz19: It doesn't look similar that's the point
trent_k: Could it have all been a total coincidence? Sure. But cmon, they did it on purpose
trent_k: They asked her to do the voice, she said no, Altman tweeted something like "we're building Her" and then they demo a voice that sounds very similar to hers
trent_k: I think this is a bit of an unfair representation of what happened
joaoluz19: Cinema
joaoluz19:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: me rn
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849
spicy.lemonade: stop💀
sarik0497: Did you say “thank you”, though?
spicy.lemonade: holding in laughter
spicy.lemonade: in work meeting rn
spicy.lemonade:
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade:


zoermena: I mean I´m used to my height it´s a non issue now
hikukomoru: There are others here
Not gonna tell you who they are
technocake.: someone post the holy sama
wellmeaningalien: we are all part of the singularity cult after all
wellmeaningalien: we are terminally online to be here
hey1_1hey: I wouldnt either dw
oooooooooog: don't republicans have gay orgies sometimes tho...??? i feel like that counts right?
zoermena: I know looksmax is a stupid word that´s why I put it on quotes but I want to look better for myself lol
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Also I'm not gonna respect your new pronouns
hey1_1hey: You are confused as I am bro 😭
hikukomoru: Please stop confusing me
hey1_1hey: I get to confuse people mallicously now
hikukomoru: I am terminally online yes
_wwwwww: like a record
hey1_1hey: her* <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Bro is still confused about his gender 🙏
zoermena: Wdym, this is mostly motivated by myslef wanting to look a little better, I don´t think that I´m ugly I´ve recieved few compliments but I dislike my acne, I also want to workout for health reasons and stuff
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: prob not
hey1_1hey: Oh then no
futurist_wizard: you must be really terminal to hang out in these spaces
hikukomoru: cis = not trans
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: I am cis (I dont remember what it means)
st.sioux: you dont get any ass man you're a republican
hikukomoru: It's that word that's banned on x
hikukomoru: cis
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: based 4o
oooooooooog: idk
oooooooooog: when u hammer ur bones
_wwwwww: cissoid?
wellmeaningalien: idk wtf this convo is about but cool image
hikukomoru: Bone hammer??
.histic: that's a lot of meat..
hey1_1hey: They never exited to begin wtih
oooooooooog: makeup and bone hammer
hikukomoru: I am not trans
I am a cissoid
st.sioux: ??????


hey1_1hey: I think thats just propogandad I just made up tho
hey1_1hey: You people are monsters
hey1_1hey: I've been called a fucking retarded idiot 👉 👈
hikukomoru: There are no slurs for feminine lesbians
Because we are adorable and awesome and amazing and cute
zoermena: Goated movie btw
zoermena: I’ve been called a hobbit
hey1_1hey: This was a long time ago. I dont think they even know what it meant
hikukomoru: If someone called you a lesbian then I can already imagine what you might look like
hey1_1hey: These darn wokies
hikukomoru: I can say taht too
hikukomoru: It's like retard
hey1_1hey: Can't even slurplay in general
hikukomoru: But I can say it
fractalcomputer: No use of slurs either.
.wolfnacht: [REDACTED]
futurist_wizard: Thats like a masculine lesbian
hikukomoru: What
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah I remember being called that once and not knowing what it meant
fractalcomputer: Would you please refrain from posting nazi imagery?
futurist_wizard: You wouldn't be that
hikukomoru: Dyke
drewsni: Pls no Nazi imagery in general chat lol
hey1_1hey: I think being lesbian is enough
futurist_wizard: What are lesbian slurs
.wolfnacht: *dies*
hey1_1hey: You can say it
hey1_1hey: You're litterly lesbian
hey1_1hey: The wildest conversation starter someone opned up with to me was "By any chance, are you autistic. Not to be mean or anything but you look it"
futurist_wizard: Go ahead
playstation.6: adorable
futurist_wizard: And you're meant to be a pussy specialist
hikukomoru: I use queer because I don't want to call him the f word
futurist_wizard: I get more pussy than you
.wolfnacht: HOLYYYYY
hey1_1hey: What a great conversation starer
zoermena:
hikukomoru: Queer boy
futurist_wizard: Its an image of me actually
hikukomoru:
playstation.6: brown hair wtf


czdct: or they drug her so that she doesn't remember
czdct: maybe she got a traumatic experience birthing it
alejandrozarzuelo: there are more than one smurf colony in the world, its biologically impossible for that to be the only one
_3sphere: The only other child smurfs are from a time machine accident and don't tell us much
hey1_1hey: Maybe I just dont know enough smurf lore but I think that thinking about the smurf productive hierarchy is really weird
_3sphere: Where did baby smurf come from, smurfette didn't know him at first
hey1_1hey: I am calling complete bull shit
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah thats not possible
alejandrozarzuelo: it is, in fact, a very normal thing to think
czdct: I just assumed they were all cousins
hey1_1hey: No 😭
hey1_1hey: Its just not a normal thing to think about
alejandrozarzuelo: they literally have one single female and you never ever thought about how their biology works??
alejandrozarzuelo: dude, how can you not
czdct: AI could never copy this
czdct: arguing about the biological structure and reproductive mechanism of smurfs 💀
hey1_1hey: Thats not the problem bro 😭
hey1_1hey: I dont think a single person has thought about the smurf reproductivity hierarchy
alejandrozarzuelo: dont you learn biology in highschool?
hey1_1hey: https://tenor.com/view/you-coping-cope-coping-mushroom-copium-gif-21683108
alejandrozarzuelo: dude, everyone thought of that the moment they thought for a second about the smurfd
hey1_1hey: Thats not my issue. My issue is that why were you thinking about it in that way 😭
alejandrozarzuelo: just because they are intelligent doesnt change their basic reproductive structure
hey1_1hey: I for one didn't know that. Not sure if anyone else was thinking about that but hey ho
alejandrozarzuelo: its pretty obvious a colony species
alejandrozarzuelo: yeah, thats basic non-vertebrate biology 101
hey1_1hey: We all know that obv
hey1_1hey: Oh yeah yanno... Common information
alejandrozarzuelo: the smurfs are a colony species with a female reproductive hierarchy

since there is a massive gender imbalance in the species can only suggest that smurfette can produce males without fertilization, and they serve as workers

we see that since smurfette doesnt have a "trade" she specializes on, she is just the female, while each of the males has its own task inside the colony, builder, farmer, intellectual...

whenever the smurf colony needs a new female, smurfette gets impregnated by one or more of the male smurfs to build a semen reserve from which female smurfs will hatch

Usually the males die afterwards but in the smurf species we see very longeve individuals so it is likely that this is not the case in this species

this is how all colony species work
czdct: ai image generators might go mainstream...
czdct: mike tyson is wildin
czdct: https://x.com/MikeTyson/status/1905029341752467881
metaldragon01: Likely in next 2 weeks. Maybe this week.
metaldragon01: Qwen 3 is coming pretty soon
czdct: I know...
ailoveyoom: https://discord.com/channels/1136230110261952532/1136230110891081821/1356003548751728760
czdct: it's not something I should be proud of
hey1_1hey: Putting LLMs to shame
hey1_1hey: Thats some crazy pattern recognition
hey1_1hey: Omg your right


hikukomoru: Much much cheaper lol
spicy.lemonade: comparing apples to oranges
benata: way cheaper
darkstar0818: gemini 2.5 flash wants you to hold its beer.
zoermena: Is 2.5 cheaper?
hikukomoru: Yeah
All that and not even better than 2.5
spicy.lemonade: not a base model
benata: still doesn't beat gemini 2.5 pro
zoermena: This is incredibly good
hey1_1hey: 40% was it or am I hallucinating that
spicy.lemonade: its faster too
hey1_1hey: Yep
spicy.lemonade: its been like 1 week
spicy.lemonade: he actually said weeks til o3 and o4mini
spicy.lemonade: sam has been more accurate
spicy.lemonade: no
zoermena: Is it cheaper than 4o?
steven_the_frog: Idk as a developer this seems like a good improvement. Better faster cheaper
hikukomoru: 1 week in Sama time = 1 year
hey1_1hey: prob thursday
hey1_1hey: This week
hikukomoru: Cool cool
When o3 and o4
spicy.lemonade: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hey1_1hey: It was no 4o iamge gen
hey1_1hey: It was just a step in the right direction
spicy.lemonade: its 4.1
spicy.lemonade: this isnt o3 or o4
hey1_1hey: Eh
spicy.lemonade: what did you guys expect
darkstar0818: are we so back?
hey1_1hey: Dont threaten me with a good time
hikukomoru: Lmao that was so disappointing
literallyvarane: 4.5 a shit product confirmed lolololol
zonchao: yes
darkstar0818: is it over?
hikukomoru: Christ I could break you in half like a toothpick
ailoveyoom: Is that it bruh
literallyvarane: How you guys voting no lololol
zonchao: 4.5 is officially a dud
benata: What the fuck did they even announce?


spicy.lemonade: If I was taller it’s over for all of you 😭 🙏
spicy.lemonade: I only wear baggy clothes is why I do look skinny. And I look homeless with my average cs major fit
spicy.lemonade: Mogged
spicy.lemonade:
czdct: idk I feel like I'm getting old...
czdct: or w rizz
czdct: I had my little niece explain to me what skibidi toilet means a couple of weeks ago
czdct: I feel ya
.wolfnacht: AHH, my "meme knowledge" is a bit less
czdct: heck most of the time I wouldn't even have guessed it was AI...
czdct: sora can do pepe memes perfectly too, I see 0 flaws
czdct: this
czdct: https://tenor.com/view/pepe-nervous-sweating-concerned-monkas-gif-15154684
czdct: you guys have noticed any flaws?
czdct: can't even image how much more you could improve this image generator
.wolfnacht: waht's monka ?
czdct: monka
.wolfnacht: there's lot more that they are hiding than they are showing rn.
czdct: because my assumption was that we would have this level somewhere in 2026-2028
czdct: did you expect image generators to improve this fast though?
czdct: based
maintcrew: retards are yes but we dont listen to them
czdct: or is it the typical AI = bad hate you see all the time
czdct: people are making a fuss about this?
czdct: ooohhh
czdct: yeah elon couldn't care less lol
maintcrew: i asked because "copyrighted" styles have been trending on twitter
czdct: I've never been this impressed by AI in my life
maintcrew: i dont think they care + its very based
czdct: what the...
czdct: I know
maintcrew: do you use twitter
czdct: this is absolutely insane
czdct: I think this is the first time in my life that I think that some sort of government oversight should be needed
maintcrew: bros about 10 epochs too late on this
czdct:
czdct: but I just saw the new sora image generator
czdct: okay I might be slow
spicy.lemonade: I only do this for the girls
maintcrew: nobody can know or have a detailed plan of what will happen for a solid timeline


joaoluz19: I also think Google has more incentive to censor than OpenAI.
hikukomoru: The first ones most likely to implement it are Google imo
But it'll be censored to hell and back as you can expect
joaoluz19: It's over
hikukomoru: If you're still talking about voice, then I doubt we're going to get anything big out of OAI
Remember, a year ago they had Sky and they still let themselves get surpassed by a small company no one had heard of before
joaoluz19: I'm not familiar with transformers yet, but they've already published it anyway. For billion/trillion dollar companies, this should be trivial to implement.
precariousworlds.: maybe they kidnapped voice actors and have locked them in a cellar to read llm text all day
hikukomoru: Sesame has some magic sauce bro
How did they do it
joaoluz19: I hope so
hikukomoru:
metaldragon01: We are going to see some really cool products
joaoluz19: Maybe it was a scale issue, neither Grok nor Google can replicate voice at the level of Sesame
metaldragon01: You can customize the voices a bit
hikukomoru: If they were actually serious they would give us Sky back
metaldragon01: Makes voice much more accessible
metaldragon01: I'm excited about the product
joaoluz19: I'm not excited about the model, but rather that they're taking voice seriously again.
hikukomoru: I'm sorry but this sucks
joaoluz19: LETS F GOOOOO
joaoluz19: <@505313122802728972> OpenAI new TTS model
joaoluz19: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1jfwp9m/yann_is_still_a_doubter/
wolf3404: Now official
hikukomoru: That gay ass twink from berserk?
maintcrew: doesnt sound healthy :((
oooooooooog: you are likke griffith
hikukomoru: My mood changes every minute or so but sure, sounds like a good idea
mihrcelium: https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379
precariousworlds.: Or maybe we're the ones doing the cooking
mihrcelium: We're cooked in a few years. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
mihrcelium: Aye. First time I heard a sesame demo between a human and the model I couldn't tell which was which for a few minutes.
precariousworlds.: It was ridiculously natural
oooooooooog: i don't get sesame hype
precariousworlds.: Why hasn't sesame been hooked up to a general purpose LLM yet?
ailoveyoom: Luckily I like being heard 😈
mihrcelium: Unrelatedly, those calls are logged, Mich.
mihrcelium: Everything feels dull now compared to Sesame. <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
precariousworlds.: But stargate has been going for like 4 weeks
ailoveyoom: So the voice is still shit?
maintcrew: long happened

the stargate team looks like imploding too
sarik0497: GPT5 shall tell. GPT4.5 was also fairly disappointing
precariousworlds.: is OpenAI falling off?


hey1_1hey: Good point
maintcrew: no thats american
hey1_1hey: Just a guess
hey1_1hey: Burger?
maintcrew: whats the slur for bulgarians
maintcrew: haha make me uhhh...... bulgarian .... uhhh..m
hey1_1hey: This mf looks like he is gonna tell me off
hey1_1hey: I am an easily groomable, 18 year old petite fem presenting enity. Who wouldn't want to give me money after all of that
hikukomoru: Stop with the racist jokes
hey1_1hey: There needs to be more paypigs in this world. I want to generate funny images with silly little 4o image gen
.histic:
futurist_wizard: Asian
hey1_1hey: I wish
hikukomoru: "Everyone has native image gen rut me"
hey1_1hey: Straight made you blad
maintcrew: he got a paypig 💔
.histic: it hallucinated the time lol
hikukomoru: What the fuck is that pfp 💔
futurist_wizard: Huh
futurist_wizard:
.histic:
hikukomoru: Atleast pfp is somewhat right
hikukomoru: "Explicit caption" 💔
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-whtie-and-black-cry-praying-looking-up-gif-553441503240360994
.histic: i wanted it to use something like this on the bottom right, but it didn't understand.
hey1_1hey: It tried its best
hey1_1hey: "Explicit caption"
hey1_1hey: 😭
.histic: so scuffed
hey1_1hey: Says the person without new image gen 🫵 😢
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> This looks a million times better than your Dalle slop
futurist_wizard: The duality of man
futurist_wizard:
.histic: consistency*
.histic: the consisteny with reference images is pretty mid tbh
hey1_1hey: Say that again?
hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: No way you have native image gen
hey1_1hey: Unless its straight up lying to me, yes
hey1_1hey: Its a self-portrait of you


jonvi_1: Anyone without access got a prompt they want me to run? Idk how widespread rollout is yet
hey1_1hey: I wonder what Zon will think with all this talk about OAI image gen
maintcrew: iirc they said its a new refreshed model in the blog
literallyvarane: So... is 2.5 just the COT of 2.0 Pro? Because 2.0 Pro no longer exist in AIStudio
hikukomoru: Damn Alejandro I didn't know you were a reactionary
I thought you were chill
jonvi_1: I was trying to see if it would go existentialist on me but the result was user centric
technocake.: the voice is a demon and it will lead you astray
hey1_1hey: I've only watched half of it to be fair (the balls)
alejandrozarzuelo: I'm bi so I can't say
jonvi_1: is it not me
hey1_1hey: Your brain isn't lying to you, you are lying to yourself  (Im 14 and this is deep)
jonvi_1: about what?! 😟
maintcrew: hell nahhh they are developing polycules now

every schizo field is converging upon and walking the same path as effective altruism
hikukomoru: I never watched Dragons Balls
hey1_1hey: Sadly not to sure
technocake.: your brain is lying to you
drewsni: is there a specific prompt to make the yugiyo or pokemon cards
alejandrozarzuelo: DEGENERACY THAT'S WHAT IT IS
hey1_1hey: I thought it would be like "Someone who is sexually attracted to hedges"
jonvi_1:
hey1_1hey: Oh well thats boring
hey1_1hey:
hikukomoru: > A polycule is three or more people who are connected romantically and/or sexually
hey1_1hey: Bit late
drewsni: lol
futurist_wizard: Yes
technocake.: there needs to be an nsfw mirror server
hey1_1hey: Go do something productive alright?
thedon7075: 4o has the new image gen?
hey1_1hey: Ok henrey from fiance
maintcrew: this is what the humans in avatar wanted to get
maintcrew: https://tenor.com/view/obamium-gif-8037868343314571204
alejandrozarzuelo: No I mean, that there is nothing particularly different

Not thsy it is appealing to you
hey1_1hey: I gotta add it to my brain dictonary
hikukomoru: Wait what does voting for Obama have to do with being gay
hey1_1hey: Whats polycule...
drewsni:
technocake.: fastest kink satisfaction meta
hey1_1hey: I have never watched dragon ball as you can tell
maintcrew: L


spicy.lemonade: No full grabs
spicy.lemonade: Just make more sensitive
spicy.lemonade: Doesn’t sound too hard
gamerbath: cats a liquid, so it would be difficult to hurt one
gamerbath: why are there so many options? are all these options beyond 2027 for the pessimists?
.coldcall: Requires ASI.
.coldcall: Superhuman task.
gamerbath: lol that's extremely specific
ldj:
ldj: Speaking of which, I should make a poll for the cat thing
ldj: HLSI <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
ldj: But trying to argue about what is the more proper definition is pretty fruitless imo.
which is why I just have my own definition with its own name seperate from AGI, and whenever people ask me for my timelines I just give them my timelines for my specific definition and terminology.
ldj: <:berk:750111476483752166>
ldj: based definition tbh
ldj: some peoples threshhold is when it can pick up a cat on the first try
ldj: <a:mhm:1241863658284253264>
literallyvarane: Someone could define AGI as being capable of winning on a rainy day in Stoke.
ldj: if you didn't think yours was better, then ofcourse you wouldn't subscribe to that definition in the first place
ldj: just like you'd probably say yours is better
ldj: and he'd probably say his is better
ldj: yes he'd probably agree
literallyvarane: Some definitions are better than others.
ldj: simply working on different definitions
ldj: > that's clearly AGI

he could also say though "if it doesn't have a physical body, then that's clearly not AGI lol"
literallyvarane: Exactly.
_3sphere: It may not have a motor control system but it should be able to guide someone through fixing a car with a good video feed
literallyvarane: If you could literally call big G God on your phone and get him to answer any question 100% honestly, that's clearly AGI lololol.
literallyvarane: I think any AGI defintion that includes robotics or manual labor actually misunderstands the concept of what a general intelligence is.
ldj: But yea my definition personally isn’t about adoption or anything like that, simply about potential it has
ldj: Depends what your definition of AGI is though <:shrug:1083221317945413777>

if that’s his definition then that’s his definition <:shrug:1083221317945413777>

You might not consider it important for your definition while he maybe does
literallyvarane: I just think the core claim spicy made is wrong.

If you have AGI in a datacenter, and it's *perfectly capable* of designing robots, the relevant software etc, but is never tasked to do so, you still have AGI. The *actual need to create that robot/software* isn't important.
ldj: But you specifically replied to those messages after I clarified what I personally mean, so I don’t see the point in treating it as if we’re talking about spicys particular statement rn
ldj: Yea, but that’s why I clarified to you what I myself mean, and what would prob be the more generous interpretation of what others like spicy mean too.
ldj: But I would say in this case the steam engine example is actually even worse, since it doesn’t even fit the description that was laid out earlier about being able to perform tele-operation
ldj: Using steam engines to disprove the notion of physical or robotic/physical intelligence is like pointing at a calculator and saying it doesn’t have intelligence, and therefore mathematics can’t be used as a measure of intelligence, or pointing to an algorithmic bug identification software, and trying to use  that as proof of coding abilities not being related to intelligence
literallyvarane: But again, the claim that Spicy made was that AGI should be able to replace all human work, or by definition it's not AGI.

You can *have* AGI, and still not have the means to replace all human work because the robots don't physically exist.
ldj:
ldj: As I said earlier
ldj: Whether the software itself is physical or not is a fruitless philosophical rabbit hole about electrons and transistors, we don’t need to go down that, I’m sure you can understand that I’m talking about software that is capable of manipulating the physical world
ldj: In this case it is related to physical operations, thus is called robotic software intelligence


mantegh5061: What i'm more interested in is longevity escape velocity
mantegh5061: I will be alive in 30 years
sieventer: In the min 2:37, one of those says that REPLACEMENT of REMOTE WORKERS in 2045
playstation.6: I need to get my vision checked fr
playstation.6: ohh lol
sieventer: xD
sieventer: At least the title says AGI is still 30 years away
playstation.6: did they say that?
sieventer: Awesome
sieventer: So AGI 2055
playstation.6: the older guy looks wise
playstation.6: they look credible idk why
trey6033: https://x.com/apples_jimmy/status/1912931455006900522
zonchao: hm
trey6033: In vertex
zonchao: new?
trey6033:
hey1_1hey: Level 5 fully achieved within 8 months some how <:Alan:1136264610161365003>
hey1_1hey: Meanwhile SamA saying AGI is this year <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
fractalcomputer: The online test does not qualify for Mensa.
777agical: https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1912924672447873500
abundantliving_:
st.sioux: i love inequality 🙏
abundantliving_: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1912921639656071231
abundantliving_:
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw its over
st.sioux: o4 will never ballin
joaoluz19: O4 can solve simple circuit problems that o1 and o3 could not solve
futurist_wizard: Gemini 2.5 pro be ballin
futurist_wizard: Man
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/paulgauthier/status/1912892114310160392?s=46&t=AH7sIlIv16Z3Kdb6j3cjfg
spicy.lemonade: god damn
a1c4p0ne: Nice
trent_k: No search
trent_k: Too easy for oh threezy
a1c4p0ne: With web search or no
trent_k: I've been using gemini for that, it does excellent
anathemaofmankind: O3 solves a problem with 100% difficulty rating
anathemaofmankind: Holy shit bro <@471334973379706900>
a1c4p0ne: Can it help you on factorio now <:ez:1136267305521774634>


okbut: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/societal-duty-to-have-children-attitude-by-country.43617/
hikukomoru: It's real, it's sourced from the European Sex Agency
zonchao: this is why they have negative gdp growth
futurist_wizard: Its real
hikukomoru: What's going on in Iraq bruh
trojan09205: It was annoying af when i learned that
fractalcomputer: Yes, it is a taught attitude.
zonchao: this has to be fake
trojan09205: In europe they use a comma instead of a decimal
futurist_wizard: How do people fool for that
hikukomoru: It means 29 years and a month
trojan09205: Misanthropic moment
futurist_wizard: Bruh
zoermena: What the fuck Sweden
futurist_wizard: 29, 1
zonchao: 10????????????????
futurist_wizard: Why are there extra numbers
fractalcomputer: I hate people.
zonchao: 43???????????
fractalcomputer: Jesus Christ.
alejandrozarzuelo: You learn something new every day
zonchao: never heard anyone say this
hikukomoru: This is a map of the average age Europeans lose their virginity
fractalcomputer: I didn't know that they said that.
alejandrozarzuelo: Yeah

I'm a late bloomer

But you know what they say, the late flower blooms more intensely
okbut: I can't understand platonics
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
okbut: Dude in my frat asked me to check his pics on there, but he was looking for 100% platonic, that's like a friend
fractalcomputer: I don't understand you people.
zonchao:
hikukomoru: Gn babe 🫦
_3sphere: I have sleep debt sorry 😭
zoermena: No stay
futurist_wizard: Night night
_3sphere: Night guys 🥰
_3sphere: Okay it's midnight
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530
okbut: There's someone out there with a similar mind
fractalcomputer: I would not like to know.
zoermena: Yes, it was Instagram based


zoermena: Perhaps it changed based on your location?
technocake.: oh no wait im kindda autistic
alejandrozarzuelo: Idk dude
alejandrozarzuelo: I did the 50 questions one
futurist_wizard: Bruv i linked it!
alejandrozarzuelo: We must have taken different tests
zoermena: Unfortunately I’ve come to the realization that many research papers might more often than not followed questionable procedures and measurements t which don’t make them that reliable, that’s why there’s so much noise when looking into accurate information on nutrition. I’ll still take it with a grain of salt. Now I don’t know if you read it but I won’t.
oooooooooog: are we taking different tests/??
technocake.: apparently im not autistic
oooooooooog: wtf?
technocake.: oh
oooooooooog: if your life isn't affected it simply doesn't matter though
oooooooooog: https://docs.autismresearchcentre.com/papers/2001_BCetal_adulteyes.pdf it's based off stuff, actually
technocake.: raads-r
technocake.: what does this mean?
technocake.:
zoermena: Probably but I don’t really care, because the test is based on nothing.
futurist_wizard: You failed some because of thst then
oooooooooog: seriously?
oooooooooog: u never played minecraft b4?
zoermena: Yeah I just answered based on the ones I knew
oooooooooog: become a fanfiction reader no cap
futurist_wizard: 'Aghast' the fuck?
oooooooooog: start reading fr bro
futurist_wizard: Because i kept having to google the fucking words
oooooooooog: fr
jonvi_1: I really like how it's able to go between styles while keeping it like seemingly consistent
oooooooooog: ur supposed to take 2-3
oooooooooog: u took 517 seconds though, thats almost 10 minutes
zoermena: This tests just add noise to better treatment, on one had you have idiots saying that this conditions are bs, on the other some are self diagnosing
oooooooooog: peak
futurist_wizard: Its over Alejandro
jonvi_1:
oooooooooog: 23-30 is NT
18 - 29 is AT
(which doesn't really make sense, but whatever)
drewsni:
oooooooooog: ~~still within neurotypical average range~~ both...
zoermena: It was so weird I didn’t like it
zoermena: 24
hey1_1hey: Yeah I scored low so I dont like it
oooooooooog: also yeah, it's not a great test lol


destrucules: He's a Turing Award winner, but also the laughing stock of ML
okbut: I cannot
joaoluz19: How is it that the chief scientist there is totally anti-LLM and we only see Llama? Where is Lecun with the new paradigms?
destrucules: I'm an advocate of the Llama 4 models and even I don't care
destrucules: Can you blame us?
okbut: Many such cases
st.sioux: it cant
joaoluz19: Because it's a nothingburger
destrucules: Click "open in browser"
joaoluz19: Yes, clearly gpt has a tiny creative potential. It can make references to literature but not articulate different knowledge to produce something new (on a mind uploading scale).
okbut: Nobody is talking about Meta <:Hmm:804642320195780619>
trey6033: No it's blurred when clicked
zonchao: <@749514473303179358> https://fxtwitter.com/anduriltech/status/1917226909609722103
destrucules: Click the thing it'll unblur
trey6033: Blurry ah pic
destrucules: Grok 3 mini > o3 mini
destrucules: Actual metrics
.0xunkn0wn: i asked it to come up with new ways
.0xunkn0wn: yeah
trey6033: Per benchmarks o3 mini is slightly stronger than grok 3 mini.  Likewise o1 medium is stronger than grok 3.
joaoluz19: He cited all the techniques that currently exist: fMRI, calcium imaging, etc., instead of developing which technique would be sufficient for mind uploading, which is why I researched nanorobots for a time.
trey6033: Bro wiffed my point
trey6033: I'm talking actual metrics
destrucules: Okay so GPT-4o mini is smarter than GPT-4.1 got it
.0xunkn0wn: who's gonna try senolytic drugs when they come out
trey6033: What, that's not what I'm saying
.0xunkn0wn: btw
trey6033: It isn't some conspiracy theory explanation, people just go with best cost/performance ratio
destrucules: Again, by that metric, Llama 3.3 70B Instruct is smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro
trey6033: If grok is as strong as you say it would be getting the highest usage
joaoluz19: At an engineering level you don't need to assume physicalism, what is reasonable to admit is that there are indeed _parts_ of consciousness originated by the neural substrate and you can manipulate these networks in a very special way given a desirable output i.e. FDVR for example.
joaoluz19: > These concepts rest on the assumption that consciousness and identity arise from physical brain structure; supporters note many related tools exist or are under development, but also admit key steps remain highly speculative
destrucules: ArtificialAnalysis does third party benchmarking for all popular models. They've independently tested o4 mini and Grok 3 mini
destrucules: Look at ArtificialAnalysis
trey6033: Grok 3 is weaker than o1
st.sioux: there's a balance between cost and performance
destrucules: By that metric Llama 3.3 70B Instruct is stronger than Gemini 2.5 Pro
destrucules: By that metric Gemini 2.0 Flash is smarter than Gemini 2.5 Pro
okbut: Headline asks a question --> Answer = "No"
trey6033: You have to compare pass1 to pass1, not consec64 to pass1


wellmeaningalien: is all u know anime or some shigt
wellmeaningalien: bro u havent heard of severance?
joaoluz19: 1x5
wellmeaningalien: damn i need to read more fire punch
hikukomoru: What's a severance 💔
wellmeaningalien: which episode are you on
wellmeaningalien: severance is so fucking good
hikukomoru: I think I read it all in one day
It was just so fucking good holy shit
joaoluz19: Will watch one more episode now, so good
wellmeaningalien: misa is SO fucking annoying
joaoluz19: Misa
wellmeaningalien: manga*
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: when does it even come in the anime (dont tell me)
hikukomoru: The context is fucking insane
wellmeaningalien: yeah
hikukomoru: This face
wellmeaningalien: tbh i used to think its was fat hairy nuts from berserk
wellmeaningalien: ofc
wellmeaningalien: yes
hikukomoru: That the mc does
hikukomoru: I hope you atleast recognize that meme face
wellmeaningalien: i was literally in the metro and i closed the book when i got to the scene where one of the characters was BUTT NAKED
hikukomoru: 🥀
wellmeaningalien: the first chapter LMFAO
hikukomoru: Tell me what point you're at
hikukomoru: It's so fucking wierd
wellmeaningalien: cause im still reading
wellmeaningalien: say no more
wellmeaningalien: ok
hikukomoru: I loved fire punch
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: like some scenes are
wellmeaningalien: oh yeah also speaking of tatsuki fujimoto ive been reading fire punch recently and like its kinda cool but WOW its weird as hell
wellmeaningalien: denji solos the shit out of okarun
wellmeaningalien: chainsaw man solos
wellmeaningalien: dungeon meshi and frieren are better
wellmeaningalien: its fine
wellmeaningalien: nah
wellmeaningalien: twitter 💔


joaoluz19: Common guys
joaoluz19: Artistic bear
hey1_1hey: Chat clip that
ailoveyoom: Autistic bear?
hey1_1hey: WHAT
ai9708: autistic bear
hey1_1hey: AUTISTIC BEAR 😭
drewsni: but like only one damn. This might actually end up saving money depending on how much it costs. Whenever i try to generate words i always end up running like 100 gens just to get 1 that is correct
hey1_1hey: Someone just fell over in the back 😭
hey1_1hey: They been cooking
hey1_1hey: Damn bro hex codes aswell
neon01197: (meant as a compliment, seems the rror rate is pretty low)
neon01197: first img they gen'd had a word miswritten
hikukomoru: Texting Sama rn asking him to generate a hot dog girl
drewsni: this is insane
hey1_1hey: I see why it took so long
neon01197: they do be cooking
hey1_1hey: Yeah I think this is an AGI moment
drewsni: genuinely wtf it isnt messed up any text so far right?
joaoluz19: Hooooly
hey1_1hey: Just a dog
hey1_1hey: Nuh uh
hikukomoru: Dog girl ? 🥵
ai9708: that would be awesome
futurist_wizard: Its not actually live
spicy.lemonade: on artist reddit
spicy.lemonade: theres about t be so much cope
hey1_1hey: Oh its a dog
hey1_1hey: IS THAT A CAT GIRL
hey1_1hey: I would fit right in
ailoveyoom: AI = Autistic Intelligence
drewsni: every 6 images it generates is porn, so its essentially live russian roulette
spicy.lemonade: cant wait to see all the cope
gamerbath: But it's uh, the guy is in space and he's not wearing a spacesuit. obviously it's stupid 🫥
hikukomoru: They are all autistic
maintcrew: clown to clown communication
ai9708: what do you expect?
st.sioux: as image gen usually does
st.sioux: theyre scared its going to fuck up
hey1_1hey: Gibberlink engaged


_cloudost: And the noise makes them think it's ass
_cloudost: So, apparently they have one issue with the openAI's image generator, the drawings have too much "noise" aka random grayish dots
retrerox: competition allow humans make wonder
retrerox: thats why i like there is multiple companies pushing AI
retrerox: Specially because the competition of Rus and USA we wouldnt reach the moon back when we did
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: we also probably wouldnt have had computers if ww2 didnt happen
retrerox: Another thing that push back the human interms of science is morality.

We wouldn't  had so big discoverements in medicine if WW2 was not a thing that happend.
retrerox: I mean at the moment Ai can actually make "her own thoughts" , it will develop faster
spicy.lemonade: whats the first thing youl do when fdvr gets announced
shirethedreamer: yeah i assumed there is a very similar word
retrerox: Since is very similar
retrerox: yeah in spanish is Inmortalidad which is the reason why we mispronounce it
shirethedreamer: i noticed only spanish speaking people write immortality like this
retrerox: Not from spain but i do speak spanish
shirethedreamer: are you spanish?
spicy.lemonade: in 10 years ill still be in my prime
spicy.lemonade: im 18, I should be good🙏
retrerox: Tbh i feel more probable that we might just get robot bodes that figure out how to fix our bodies.

Both are very futuristicals but yea 😂
retrerox: I'm 32 so i'm starting gym now and keeping my body and brain as clean as possible for that day 🙏
spicy.lemonade: conensus one is scary asf
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: I hope we dont get the race ending
retrerox: AI inmortality soon :Prayge:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: agents startig
spicy.lemonade: but still big
spicy.lemonade: 2025 is gonna be a bit boring
spicy.lemonade: ok so based on thier new predictions
spicy.lemonade: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
spicy.lemonade: within 5 years
spicy.lemonade: mind uploading
spicy.lemonade: that means
spicy.lemonade: underestimating
spicy.lemonade: insome cases
spicy.lemonade: they wrre perfect
spicy.lemonade: lol wtf
spicy.lemonade: their predictions in 2021 were
spicy.lemonade: and determine how accurate
spicy.lemonade: asked 2.5 to summarize


ailoveyoom: Imagine if, "We'll be rolling it out to Plus and Pro users over the coming weeks" 😭
st.sioux: "we are so chill and cool actually"
spicy.lemonade: Idk why they wouldn't drop it lol
literallyvarane: “One more thing” GPT 4.75 incoming.”
i_like_over_9000_turtles: I used to love Elon, I did two songs about him.  I dunno it feels like he has turned to the dark side, gotten stupid and evil.  I wonder if it's the ketamine?
literallyvarane: Watch them do a “one more thing” and ship o3 today or something.
trent_k: In 15 minutes we'll hear if they're *actually* dropping it or if they're still on their bullshit. I don't get my hopes up for OAI livestreams anymore
literallyvarane: Lolololololol
drewsni: lol
spicy.lemonade: <@1068159407671754824> looks like they did drop native image
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-tesla-siliconvalley-dance-twitter-gif-736329299122305506
literallyvarane: But this isn’t helping them lol.
hikukomoru: Believe in Elon 🙏
ailoveyoom: 😏
ailoveyoom: I have a friend with proof
literallyvarane: I mean grok is still supposedly training so we’ll see… I guess?
ailoveyoom: They fixed that btw
spicy.lemonade: As google
spicy.lemonade: Better not be as censored
i_like_over_9000_turtles: Yes, you are correct. My apologies.
zonchao: <:wtf:1151275553987510282>
metaldragon01: https://x.com/testingcatalog/status/1904589687458533468
hey1_1hey: brb
hikukomoru: "You know this is a serious announcement when they bring out the twink"
hey1_1hey: I gotta go make some food, kiss my SamA plush goodnight and then hop on livestream
spicy.lemonade: This will be a good drop
spicy.lemonade: W
literallyvarane: People playing ping pong in the background on some 2003 Silicon Valley energy.
spicy.lemonade: Oh didn't see that lol
hey1_1hey: THATS WHAT IM SAYING
gamerbath: WE ARE SO BACK
hey1_1hey: He is tho 😭
gamerbath: SAM ALTMAN. HUGE
spicy.lemonade: Like 4.5
st.sioux: altman needs to control the nerds and prevent them from being cringe
literallyvarane: Memes how Google might’ve killed grok via blog post lolol they gotta start doing cozy lunch break room announcements.
hikukomoru: He's there bro
spicy.lemonade: The drops are always bad when Sam altman isn't on the stream
darkstar0818: No you don't.  You have 2.5 pro exp 🙂
hey1_1hey: Litterly the first name <:LOL:1187460826572005436>


a1c4p0ne:
spicy.lemonade: 💀
metaldragon01: Just happens to be the exact formula used for the tarrifs
metaldragon01: Vibe governing
metaldragon01: https://x.com/krishnanrohit/status/1907587352157106292
zonchao: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1907449316534259850
metaldragon01: They all give the same answer and it's the exact formula they used
metaldragon01: They asked chatgpt. Gemini or claude
zonchao: https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1907234034876588366
metaldragon01: No. It's literally ai tarrifs
zonchao: they charge us and freeload, why shouldn't we do the same to them
zonchao: reciprocal
literallyvarane: *Maybe it's not actually that bad, but Christ these terrifs are meme level IQ stuff.
literallyvarane: Just lost to china guys GG we're fucking cooked
metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907534748257497134
metaldragon01: https://x.com/basedjensen/status/1907544349996658725
metaldragon01: Only the chips. There's a lot more that goes into building out datacenters
burnytech: nevermind so they made an exception for chips
https://x.com/indrjl/status/1907559007188869383?t=7HtMpZeDfFL6PsKN5qWYiQ&s=19
but tariffs on a lot of things indirectly make chips more expensive anyway.
spicy.lemonade: Holy shit
spicy.lemonade: Is on a single a100
spicy.lemonade: The deepmind world model
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wtf
metaldragon01: Google may be the only hope
metaldragon01: Yeeeaaappp
burnytech:
burnytech: https://fxtwitter.com/snwy_me/status/1907554410089295979?t=LuVY9Ko82Jl9YSrtUABb7Q&s=19
brain4brain: This is crazy
brain4brain: Holy shit.
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-meme-wait-a-minute-gif-14484132
trent_k: I'm calling the cops
trent_k:
okbut: <a:hack:1126224614134136832>
spicy.lemonade: isnt it crazy that the first place we are all likeley to be once agi drops is in this channel
wellmeaningalien: havent seen an LLM do that since like gpt 3 and liquid ai
wolf3404: Grok is pretty good
.wolfnacht: i actually go to grok bcz i love the unhinged ideas, it used to give...but it's dumbed down rn.
okbut: ChatGPT tried to rip off their "Fun fact" closure
okbut: I still use its DeepSearch because its base response format is tight
maintcrew: chatgpt is slopinator even with a prompt


a1c4p0ne: Lecun said real world models for agi
ldj: hmm
ldj: I'd have to think of what good agentic benchmarks are available that are not close to saturation yet
ldj: I do think an update to that will come by the end of this year, and I think maybe GPT-5 itself will be that update to it, with GPT-5 being able to go off and do things in browser and such.

but saying how much better it will be kinda requires a benchmark to be used for reference.
brain4brain: Yes
metaldragon01: Oom usually refers to compute lol
brain4brain: I'm never the kind of guy to care about compute, only benchmarks
ldj: > and how many times or order of magnitude do you expect it to be better than operator-v1

idk how you want me to answer this lol.
idk what you mean by orders of magnitude. Do you mean like in terms of compute scale difference?
brain4brain: O6 is just overkill even with the worst case scenario
metaldragon01: I think we should expect one with 5
brain4brain: Also <@312370916820779040> do you expect another operator from OpenAI this year, and how many times or order of magnitude do you expect it to be better than operator-v1
metaldragon01: Too close to call. I'd lean no on some. I'm much more confident in the o6 tier
brain4brain: Worst case scenario

O1: high schooler level
O3: undergrad
O4: PhD
O5: Nobel

Best case
O1: undergrad
O3: PhD
O4: Nobel
O5: ???

(Ignoring moravec paradox and hoping all silly questions get patched by o5)
brain4brain: I expect to all be human level by o5
metaldragon01: All current benchmarks reach human level by time we reach o6 level model
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
a1c4p0ne: Let’s see how it’ll do on arc agi 2
ldj: But in this context im talking specifically to you, so you're the reader. soo, hmm. Idk maybe you actually have very big expectations for O4 full already so that could be risky <:LULW:789888409346113556>

But I'd say i'm about 90% confident that GPT-5 standard intelligence will be better than GPT-4.5 in a majority of benchmarks. As well as better than O1-mini at a majority of benchmarks too.
metaldragon01: Better than that is basically o5
brain4brain: Ah I see
metaldragon01: 04 pro is roughly o5 level
ldj: Well it's kinda inherently based on the readers own expectations, so depends who is the reader in this context lol. Because I say "a bit better than what you would expect"...
brain4brain: O5 would be AGI imo
metaldragon01: Hell that would feel like my lowest tier of AGI
brain4brain: What's your confidence % of this prediction
metaldragon01: That would certainly be worthy of the name
ldj: maybe even a bit better than what you'd expect from an O4 Pro model
ldj: I think prob atleast a bit better than what you might expect from an O4 Full model from the recent O-series trajectory.
metaldragon01: Probably something around o4 full/pro
brain4brain: What do you suspect GPT-5 on max level intelligence be
metaldragon01: Standard being the free version
metaldragon01: Feels like a high bar.
.coldcall: <:idk:1136264106937171999>
ldj: <:shrug:1083221317945413777>
.coldcall: will it write smut
ldj: so don't fret
ldj: I suspect GPT-5 at standard intelligence will still be similar or better than O3 though.
ldj: <:EZ:1033548858262835331>
.coldcall: Unlimited, free GPT-5 (at standard intelligence <:doomer:1136265388473196644> )
ldj: and ofcourse in just a few more months we have GPT-5 🙂


drewsni: im amazed how perfect the iphone is yet the logo is slightly off
hey1_1hey: Im calling the police
hey1_1hey: Not wearing her seat blet
spicy.lemonade: its not just smooth
hey1_1hey: Arrest this bitch
hikukomoru: Pretty lady 😳
spicy.lemonade: bro I absolutly love how it adds texture to every image
.histic: fkk
it can make a great profile picture
hey1_1hey: Id vote for him
wellmeaningalien:
spicy.lemonade: lyou can copy art styles
hikukomoru: Looks like an election poster
wellmeaningalien: that might or might not be better
wellmeaningalien: so
hey1_1hey: clocks
wellmeaningalien: can draw girl luffy
hey1_1hey: Oh clcks
hey1_1hey: COCKS?
spicy.lemonade: the funny thing is. you can legitimately steal art now
hey1_1hey: Yeah I have tiny testicles everyone
.histic: <@458069236825194506> but can it draw clocks accurately?
hey1_1hey: Yanno what sure
hey1_1hey: Thats...
wellmeaningalien: spanish you portugtard
spicy.lemonade: "art theft" 💔
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: What langauge is this 💔
hikukomoru: Self-deprecating humour
.histic: how much data was this trained on. damn
wellmeaningalien: AND THE LOGO
wellmeaningalien: the ENTIRE KNIGHT IS SO CONSISTENT
.histic: damn..
wellmeaningalien: dude
spicy.lemonade: the knights
spicy.lemonade: broo the details in the background
wellmeaningalien:
hey1_1hey: Imma go show my friends this now
hey1_1hey: You guys dont see the vision
joaoluz19: lololololol
.histic: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>


ldj: Literally anything that takes you 8 hours? such as an 8 hour work day.
Or if you work at a job for 4 years, that's 4 years of work, etc..
or better to represent 4 years of work as more like 1 or 2 years of work, but you get what I mean
supersteve8000: 11:33 pm for moi <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
supersteve8000:
nsec:
supersteve8000: which would be a scary world so, yeah
supersteve8000: then we're looking at like ▓ matrix type math, or quantum-ally
supersteve8000: cause what if?
supersteve8000: 🐸
supersteve8000: just be kind to them :d is my moral here
supersteve8000: [ year **** ] be careful w pointers
supersteve8000: for ex [ year 2048 ] ai could be so far advanced that we have to look at, *treating the ai* correctly, so as not to overestimate in how we understand it's inner-code
supersteve8000: i could be wrong lmfaooo
supersteve8000: i believe <@312370916820779040> is looking at it from an *exponential* perspective, where the model is improving at a rate that will only increase *over time*
supersteve8000: i reckon i will scroll back up
supersteve8000: could someone * pointer their graph here:
hikukomoru: How?
supersteve8000: lemme look again
supersteve8000: my interpretation of the graph above ^ is that it is *non-linear* or exponential in its nature
supersteve8000: oh oh my b
supersteve8000: sure
supersteve8000: thing as in the ai?
supersteve8000: ah
supersteve8000: what's your question?
supersteve8000: same here, helped me realize some things
clevermoniker: same
supersteve8000: 📊
supersteve8000:
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/anime-confusion-what-gif-19368852
supersteve8000: <:1984:958080414147285064>
st.sioux: 95% 8 hours seems agi-ish to me
ldj: thats what the 100 years means.
ldj: It's saying that the AI model will be capable of doing things that would take a human 100 years.
supersteve8000: lmfao xddd
otub: <:redemption:1136265386984222771>
supersteve8000: gr8 advice right here
metaldragon01: Just don't die and you win
supersteve8000: ridiculous tbh
metaldragon01: Crazy timeline
clevermoniker: seems a bit pessimistic and non exponential to me <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
metaldragon01: Agi 2029 at the latest 😂


brain4brain: It looks worst than an AI one 😂✌
oooooooooog: many-a hampster have had such a fate
.histic: dying by a blocked anal sphincter is the worst way to go out
oooooooooog: i was merely demonstrating that the chance of me taking a shit in the next week is not 100%
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/you-ok-gif-26517102
oooooooooog: or i experience massive organ failure, preventing the realse of shit from my bowels
oooooooooog: or a cosmic ray vaporizes me
oooooooooog: or if a meteor hits the earth
oooooooooog: not if i were to blow my brains out, or die in any other way, for that matter
.histic: lotta anti-ai people there
oooooooooog: i can't believe this ar*ist said that
.histic: got 100k+ likes on twitter lol
spacetimetsunami: There is a 100% chance that you take a shit in the next week
oooooooooog: this is a really pretentious thing to say
.histic: https://x.com/noodles_and_tea/status/1905485234688459010
artists are pretentious
oooooooooog: there isn't a 100% chance of anything
spacetimetsunami: There is a 100% chance of aligned superintelligence
oooooooooog: i would allow you to experience maximal suffering eternity for +0.0001% chance of aligned superintelligence
anathemaofmankind: I hope they suffer more
.histic:
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/vader-noooo-gif-4825231
spicy.lemonade: LOLLLLL I asked the model to open ChatGPT and it opened Gemini. It’s flash 2 based with an implementation of 2 papers released by tencent
.histic: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/15462/when-will-gpt5-be-announced/
.histic: may is optimistic, i'd say june+ realistically.
spacetimetsunami: I keep hearing May but is that even confirmed at all
spacetimetsunami: When gpt5…
brain4brain: Next thing we know Google (DeepMind) and X will merge 😭
zonchao: wouldn't be surprised if xai and gdm do a collab for a game
zonchao: they love each other <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: https://x.com/demishassabis/status/1905778660206117000
Demis loves Elon.
joaoluz19: Don't know man I have a friend in the US who Disney sent his IP and home address to when he downloaded something pirated.
zoermena: Lmao
brain4brain: That’s normal for almost every single country if you have a VPN
brain4brain:
joaoluz19: One of the few advantages of Brazil, you can pirate everything without consequences
joaoluz19:
zoermena: Like sure but I also wouldn’t be happy on their suffering
brain4brain: <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946> <:based:1136264604788473946>
spicy.lemonade: WWW
zonchao: https://fxtwitter.com/Dexerto/status/1905615402924662833? <:LOL:1187460826572005436>


fractalcomputer: I think Manjul Bhargava is a good example of a strong researcher that didn't participate in the Olympiads. Fields medalist, obviously. The guy's doctoral advisor was Wiles of all people.
fractalcomputer: I believe so, but there exists a certain correlation with the kinds of metacognitive skills required.
spicy.lemonade: yeah
fractalcomputer: Sioux was asking about the opposing case.
spicy.lemonade: top researcher can not become imo winner
spicy.lemonade: IMO winer can become a very good researcher
st.sioux: and do you believe that someone with little aptitude for imo-style problem solving could still end up becoming an excellent researcher?
fractalcomputer: But yes, my point was that IMO-style problems do not necessarily indicate research prowess - even if they do indicate a certain kind of mathematical fortesse.
fractalcomputer: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
fractalcomputer: This looks like a fun one.
spicy.lemonade: I think the IMO is equivalent of soccer scouts. where backthen talented kids from the favelas in brazil would get lucky and make it big but now theres a whole system to find majority of them
fractalcomputer:
spicy.lemonade: just starting
fractalcomputer: This was the problem he got zero points on.
spicy.lemonade: prob wasnt as popular
fractalcomputer: Rapoport could have probably qualified.
spicy.lemonade: so not realy fair
spicy.lemonade: dont think IMO existed at time
fractalcomputer: Here's Lurie's scoring.
fractalcomputer: Grothendieck himself, Serre, Deligne, Rapoport, etc.
fractalcomputer: Counter-examples; Grothendieck's lineage (maybe with the exception of Scholze) doesn't have that many IMO winners.
spicy.lemonade: but not all imo winers go into research
spicy.lemonade: become very good researchers
spicy.lemonade: I think the IMO winers that do go into research
spicy.lemonade: also comparable to IMO
spicy.lemonade: feynman achieved highest score on putnam
fractalcomputer: Or it could just be my bias, since I really only tend to care for the algebraic side of things - which is an issue I am trying to rectify.
fractalcomputer: He's a bit like Erdös.
fractalcomputer: I mean, he is certainly one of the brightest mathematicians in terms of sheer processing power of our age, so to say, but he hasn't revolutionised, well, really anything.
fractalcomputer: Scholze, see above. I really like his work.
fractalcomputer: Tao's a bit of a letdown, I feel.
spicy.lemonade: peter schloze
spicy.lemonade: terrence tao
fractalcomputer: Mirzakhani was also a gold medalist, iirc.
spicy.lemonade: yeh lol
fractalcomputer:
fractalcomputer: Perelman insisted that the prize was not due only to him.
spicy.lemonade: the only one
spicy.lemonade: and he solved milenium problem
spicy.lemonade: Grigori Perelman won imo didnt he