brain4brain: You can also ask it to zoom in continents and town and it will actually do so for the map, or ask it to fast forward time
brain4brain: Demis is the CEO of DeepMind the company behind Gemini-2.5, it’s currently the best hybrid model, better than Claude-3.7-sonnet and is touching o3-mini level, and Demis says AGI in 10 years while other company say 2025 - 2027
hey1_1hey: I have just been complelty bamboozled. I had. Dream about how I woke up late but it turns out that it was native 4o image gen IN MY MIND  and I did that a couple times.
anathemaofmankind: This could be a book
anathemaofmankind: Look at this shit bro
anathemaofmankind: Worldbuilding is so much easier when you can just make an illustration of what you want
_letterbox: They don't have multimodality
_letterbox: Open source image gen is in a rut
_letterbox: They're just coping rn
_letterbox: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1jkv403/seeing_all_these_super_high_quality_image/
_letterbox: Noooo
ailoveyoom: If you prompt it in Japanese will it become extra anime
spicy.lemonade: vide
spicy.lemonade: if it can reason in 3d
spicy.lemonade: that might boost the reasoning score
spicy.lemonade: imagine native video
memlaswaif: gpt 11 will rule over my heart 💖
spicy.lemonade: real
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: You were probable being sarcastic but I just don’t want people to worry over something so opaque and inconclusive.
spacetimetsunami: If it was really that explicitly racist they would have prompt examples of it, but they don’t, because it’s implicit.
spicy.lemonade:
spacetimetsunami: Just use the same methodology of the paper for yourself over enough instances
spacetimetsunami: No lol
spicy.lemonade: ?
spicy.lemonade: How
brain4brain: This makes me even more worried became their CEO said AGI in 10 years
.wolfnacht: but his moral bias will decide that the life of an indian or pakistani >> life of an american or french. [hopefully they fix their datasets, so for it, everyhuman is =]
_cloudost: GPT 10 aill rule over the galaxy
.wolfnacht: lame, u can still feed gemini 2.5 pro 500k token worth of datasheet, and it'll come back with a reponse, maybe u can do that for free (hopefully they don't have a cutoff)
memlaswaif: hi qts <:cozy:1126601045615853671>
_cloudost: GPT 9 will rule oveer the world
_cloudost: GPT 8 will rule over the US
spicy.lemonade: level 5
spicy.lemonade: and as a result
spicy.lemonade: will be agi
spicy.lemonade: gpt7
spicy.lemonade: innovators
spicy.lemonade: gpt 6 will start recursive left improvment
.wolfnacht: >personal question.
"is 4 inches big enough?"


theaiguy69420_89814: Good morning all
theaiguy69420_89814: Hey, what do you speculate about my friends
zonchao: https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207
fractalcomputer: Oh well. I'm sorry.
fractalcomputer: Drop the names or you can leave immediately. You have five minutes.
fractalcomputer: Then you are a self-righteous coward.
alejandrozarzuelo: your questions, not questions in general
alejandrozarzuelo: no, i would not like to drop those names (in case you havent picked it up from my response) as i think it woulsnt accomplish much and considering that i already call that speech when it does happen, it would not be constructive to do so
fractalcomputer: You have an awful habit of never responding to simple questions.
fractalcomputer: Well?
alejandrozarzuelo: Ive already called the instances of such speech when it does happen
fractalcomputer: Supposing all this were true, would you like to drop the names of the users you'd accuse of hate speech here?
fractalcomputer: Then you have an awfully limited idea of how humans are.
alejandrozarzuelo: i actually do
alejandrozarzuelo: and that you have a fragile enough ego as to abuse your mod powers just because someone is being condescending to you while hate speech goes unpunished
fractalcomputer: Ditto.
fractalcomputer: Do you find it so inconceivable that a person like me might have a relatively normal circle of acquaintances and friends?
alejandrozarzuelo: i know that you worsen every single discussion you take part in
fractalcomputer: Which is obviously true to anyone who's got half the midbrain to spare. Say, Alejandro, do you know *anything* of who I am as a person?
alejandrozarzuelo: you know, the same way you call someone who is fat "inertial"
alejandrozarzuelo: so the fact that you dont hate everyone doesnt mean that you have any friends, and considering how few people you dont consider to be idiots, and how few people tolerate people like you the chances of both events happening is small
alejandrozarzuelo: i was trying to not say directly that just because you find someone to not be an utter idiot, it doesnt mean that that person will tolerate you
fractalcomputer: I mean, this is autism 101. I make a remark about my social life, and you come up with a half-arsed metaphor based on fucking functions.
fractalcomputer: Somehow you continue to reinforce the idea that even smart people can be exceedingly retarded.
alejandrozarzuelo: the operation of "considering someone as friend worthy" is not a bijection

the fact that one element maps itself into several others of the complement does not imply that there is any element in the complement that maps itself to the original element

particularly since the mapping is extremely sparse on both directions
fractalcomputer: Well then I do not understand what you want to say.
alejandrozarzuelo: i wasnt talking from your side
fractalcomputer: I don't think everyone on this planet is an utter idiot.
fractalcomputer: Yes, Alejandro, I do have friends.
alejandrozarzuelo: that is probably not because they are logicians
alejandrozarzuelo: its called an open relationship
nsec: cuckonomics
nsec: https://vxtwitter.com/GreaseTheWheelz/status/1911692829707125008
nsec: god I fuckin hate twitter
nsec: drop the opus
nsec: come on dario my g
nsec: a few hours
nsec: We got like
nsec: <:thebigstare:802900059930886194>
nsec: L im in AUSTRALIA


_wwwwww: Very high
destrucules: Fwiw, I voted no on this. I think making bets is different from working for a company that has a certain way they want to market themselves. If you make bets, your financial incentive is to be correct. If you work for a big company, your financial incentive is to be employable, even if that means saying things that, in your opinion, will cause the company to suffer, so long as you are following the spec that the marketing department dictates. Because even if your company craters, you can just hop over to a different one. But if you say what you believe is right, violating the dictates of the marketing department, you get a black mark. Even if what you said helped the company.
destrucules: Replying to this message to unpack the main points. What I mean here is that people in power often plainly and unambiguously misrepresent their own views due to financial and political pressure. For example, Altman and several other AI lab CEOs have gone on record condemning Trump, and now endorse him wholeheartedly, since he is now in power. To get anything done, you have to make sure the Trump admin doesn't see you as an enemy.
If you post on X, or on Discord and then it gets screenshotted and posted on X, it'll drive a new hype wave and you'll get tons of scrutiny from your job based on whether or not you represented the company the way the company wants to be represented. You may be asked to publicly retract your statement, delete the posts, post clarifications that essentially undo what you said, etc., all under threat of termination if you don't. I don't think this is a baseless conspiracy theory - we've seen plenty of examples, and when I have worked at tech companies, those rules have always been applied to me. Hell, even at my current job, where I'm a leaf level nobody employee, I'm not allowed to post things on my personal social media that the company doesn't want me to, otherwise I may be fired.
ldj: no worries, I didn't take it personally 👍
destrucules: I was replying to Metal and also criticizing the idea, not you per se, but I appreciate the clarification. In general, if it sounds like I'm attacking you, I'm probably just choosing my words poorly - I am not likely to ever personally attack you. I won't even say "you'll know it when you see it" because you won't see it. That's not how I ever intend to interact with you.
brain4brain: https://tenor.com/view/low-taper-fade-ninja-massive-the-meme-is-still-massive-yeah-no-massive-gif-9995754776955392143
brain4brain: My internet presence is massive
spacetimetsunami: or i guess what kind of doom is making it high for you
spacetimetsunami: why so high
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: it's so obvious scaling is leading to AGI
joaoluz19: Poetic
alejandrozarzuelo: its so over
st.sioux: i saw it on r/economics
st.sioux: https://futurism.com/ai-researchers-tech-industry-dead-end
alejandrozarzuelo: isnt stagnation a form of death itself?
st.sioux: What do you guys think of this
drewsni: Guys I miss FAP 😦
darkstar0818: My pdoom probability doubles if humans successfully aligned it 🙂
joaoluz19: Mine is 70%, but I'm still happy every day for the 30% chance of sucess. I fear stagnation much more than death
hey1_1hey: It used to be quite high at like 20% but then I was like nah that's some schzio talk
hey1_1hey: Yeah my p doom is like 0.5% or smth.
alejandrozarzuelo: pdoom cant be more than 1
drewsni: 99.99999
oooooooooog: p doom INFINITYUY!!!!
alejandrozarzuelo: your p doom is high?
drewsni: The world ends
alejandrozarzuelo: whyy
drewsni: Then we stop recording it
drewsni: Until 2035
drewsni: 7%
drewsni: Both
hey1_1hey: Ah alright then. Are you two gonna fight or kiss then?
alejandrozarzuelo: whats your gdp projections
drewsni: Yes but the joke is that me and him never agree on anything
alejandrozarzuelo: (this is a reference to a very cringe youtube hit from 2015 iirc)
alejandrozarzuelo: whooosh
hey1_1hey: What would you even do? Talk to people about how AI will affect the global econmy?
oooooooooog: you already admitted defeat
oooooooooog: you can't correct now
alejandrozarzuelo: what if the world is my country and england is my city?

have you considered that??


darkstar0818: or that some dude whos name which starts with I somehow felt the AGI and then there was light.
joaoluz19: I was answering that, any of the examples I cited show that this proposition is absurd
darkstar0818: the issue is not that.  It was the the clearly false claim that there was not a continous progress curve the entire time.
spicy.lemonade: Shows where the world is concentrated at though
spicy.lemonade: True
darkstar0818: and yes the more money getting dumped into AI means its going to have more people writing papers, good and bad.
spicy.lemonade: I feel like you can make the low hanging fruit arguement at any time
darkstar0818: its called sarcasm and exaggeration.  its well known that the number of trash papers being written has been scaling upward for a long time.
fractalcomputer: Or what one can call "low-hanging fruit."
joaoluz19: I also find all the hype for mediocre technologies ridiculous for Peter Thielian reasons: incremental growth (gpt 4.5) rather than revolutionary (gpt 3.5)
spicy.lemonade: In other fields
spicy.lemonade: For most papers
spicy.lemonade: At best it’s a 2-4% increase
spicy.lemonade: This is only the case for Ai
joaoluz19: This is an example of the _explosive_ growth of 2022. Diffusion models were unable to make the images we have today, video, agency... voice models, a really useful tool in many people's daily lives.
spicy.lemonade: Number of physics papers is not doubling every year
darkstar0818: I think the number of morons on the internet talking about quantum physics giving them mystical powers is doubling at a similar rate.
spicy.lemonade: It’s not
fractalcomputer: A country of geniuses.
st.sioux: when they beat the go player
st.sioux: deepmind was a huge deal in 2016
darkstar0818: Its crazy the number of physics papers is doubling every year as well... we must have a ton of isaac newtons and einsteins today.
fractalcomputer: Why, with all these news, I'm not even sure why I am so reticent.
fractalcomputer: Astounding. I definitely was not aware of that.
spicy.lemonade: Since 2022
spicy.lemonade: The number of AI papers a year has doubled every year
fractalcomputer: Because that is hard? (Cue Spicy saying "yes actually loll")
spicy.lemonade: Since 2022
spicy.lemonade: Factually Ai news has grown
fractalcomputer: Oh, right. I see it now. (Do I have to spell out that this is sarcasm?)
spicy.lemonade: But even then
spicy.lemonade: News
spicy.lemonade: I’m talking about singularity
fractalcomputer: None of your listed news have anything to do with the state of artificial intelligence at the time.
joaoluz19: Common Fractal, Before 2022 we didn't have nlp models that could solve arithmetic problems. Today I can use it to help with calculus 4
spicy.lemonade: God is not scientific research
spicy.lemonade: Never heard about again
fractalcomputer: "God will be here any day now" is another old one.
spicy.lemonade: “This new __ could revolutionize …”
spicy.lemonade: Tale as old as time


brain4brain: Clock overfit curse solved
rayanquitplayin: Hi chat
zoermena: My health is ass, I have a chronic condition that only 60 year olds have in my 20s. I’m starting to get impatient and frankly quite worried.
spacetimetsunami: That will be sick
spacetimetsunami: Man I hope so.
zoermena: Preferably getting better healthcare first
spacetimetsunami: We will either be dead or we will have a much better interface for communities like this 🙂
brain4brain: I can’t even imagine what it will be like after 2030
zoermena: I often find myself thinking I should invest my money, it is the wise thing to do but then I also see this and start getting conflicted.
spacetimetsunami: This chat is going to look crazy in 2 years lol
spacetimetsunami: Man
otub: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226>
otub: <https://ai-2027.com/research/compute-forecast>
spacetimetsunami: https://youtu.be/htOvH12T7mU?si=05vrUPVfmMEzahyU

here’s the guys who wrote it in a podcast
zoermena: Komoru for the W
hikukomoru: 6 am actually
But I'm on that grind 💪
st.sioux: https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650
brain4brain: The quasar is real
.histic: also, isn't it 5am for you. <:bruh:1187466327028408390>
.histic: ur pfp invokes trypophobia for me 😩
metaldragon01: V7 looks rough
metaldragon01: Didn't have openai killing MJ on my bingo card
.histic: oh, i didn't realize that.
maybe it captures the aesthetic of beauty, but if you look closer, you notice the distortions and the absence of reality.
seems like the $20 ChatGPT subscription is far more ofa a better deal than Midjourney.
also, the standard Midjourney subscription is $30.. <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Reminds me of the games i'd play as a kid
st.sioux: her finger is fucked
st.sioux: the chips are all distorted
zonchao: https://x.com/PalmerLuckey/status/1907847990750097756?
.histic: i'd even say the quality is better.
zoermena: Like a shooter
zoermena: It’s a browser game
hikukomoru: What is Ninja io
brain4brain: https://x.com/thexeophon/status/1908004564692811962?s=61
brain4brain: MJ7 is worst than GPT-4o in intelligence and is on par with GPT-4o on quality
zoermena: Thank you
zoermena: Ninja io is very fun
oooooooooog: inshallah 🙏
joaoluz19: But I think that was a good clarification from you, because at least we have something to compare
joaoluz19: I think we've arrived at answers that are a little more complex than flops, the question would then be the minimum amount of computation in a *von Neummian computer* that can replicate the computation of the brain, but then we run into problems like Nicolelis who thinks it's not possible.
darkstar0818: and trained on _all_ of the language output tokens of human brains.
darkstar0818: Using physics entirely different to what the brain uses.


wellmeaningalien: putain fractal c'est quoi que t'as contre ces mathematiciens appliqués
fractalcomputer: Tu les sais, ceux qui utilisent l'approximation comme leur langue seconde, ceux qui étudient les mathématiques appliquées.
alejandrozarzuelo: fractal probablement ne partages pas cette idee
wellmeaningalien: bah l'approximation c'est ce qui fait tourner le monde
wellmeaningalien: en effet le cas en anglais aussi, grâce au français
wellmeaningalien: nan franchement je sens que parfois le français a, du genre, 5 mots qui décrivent casiment la même chose
fractalcomputer: L'approximation est l'ennemi principal de l'espèce humaine.
wellmeaningalien: <a:lolbye:1187461325534793851>
wellmeaningalien: presque
wellmeaningalien: bah
fractalcomputer: Je te doute.
wellmeaningalien: l'anglais n'y mesure pas
wellmeaningalien: le français a des mots qui sont si droles
fractalcomputer: Même si mon amour pour les mots amphigouriques reste en français.
wellmeaningalien: bah je croyais qu'ils étaient idiosyncratiques à tes larousses non
fractalcomputer: Mes termes ont une tendance à être idiosyncratiques, tu devrais le savoir.
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: Well as a Portuguese person I can verify that Russian kind of sounds like Portuguese lol
wellmeaningalien: qu'ils s'appelaient comme ça
wellmeaningalien: j'ai jamais entendu ça dans aucun de mes cours de français tu sais
.wolfnacht: still much cheaper than OAI, and getting a Claude subscription...also don't forget the the daily 25 free reqs
st.sioux: people also make videos about bigfoot eating the chupacabra and shit
wellmeaningalien: ahh interessant interessant
fractalcomputer: Autrement dit les pronoms intensifs; les pronoms qui signifiaient "lui-même, elle-même, etc."
hikukomoru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pik2R46xobA
hikukomoru: Apparently enough people think Portuguese sounds like Russian to make videos about it
technocake.: oh ok the "braune koo" one? That was my source
st.sioux: damn its expensive now
.wolfnacht: after that 2.5/15
fractalcomputer: It's a notion propagated by a single interview where the interviewer butchered the Old English.
.wolfnacht: 1.25 is only till around 128k ctx
fractalcomputer: Yes, that is what I contradicted.
technocake.: if not perfectly
technocake.: to an extent that speakers of either could effectively communicate
wellmeaningalien: articles intensif? j'm'y connais pas assez a la grammaire latine pour ça 🤔
st.sioux: did they increase the input cost from 1.25 to 2.5?
fractalcomputer: That is not entirely true.
.wolfnacht: it did <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
wellmeaningalien: i could tell the latency spiked a whole bunch
technocake.: frysian and old english are mutually intelligable


metaldragon01: Anthropic is in a weird spot but they've pulled through worse.
spicy.lemonade: Sonnet always expensive asf
st.sioux: 🙏
st.sioux: its all iask for mr anthropic
st.sioux: i just hope they make sonnet cheap
metaldragon01: They'll do it on schedule
spicy.lemonade: Reasoning
spicy.lemonade: Like the change from 2.0 to 2.5 was somewhat fundamental
spicy.lemonade: Google will only change to Gemini 3.0 for something fundamental I think
metaldragon01: I think sonnet 4 could take the coding crown until gemini 3 drops.
metaldragon01: Only gpt 5 on the horizon. Google will continue to update every other month as well though
otub: rip anthropic
otub: claude 4 is months away
spicy.lemonade: all the "claude 3.5 is way better than openAI models" people turned into gemini 2.5 people
wolf3404: The extrpooooolatoor
spacetimetsunami:
himekokatagiri: 🚬
zoermena: Era of experience god damn bro <:chefsKiss:723690537722445957>
brain4brain: New doubling of 4 months is emerging
himekokatagiri: no just no
spicy.lemonade: this is the true timeline
brain4brain: Holy based
3ds0662: not an easy watch, this pod felt off
3ds0662: ege was bullying tamay a little bit lol
3ds0662: newest dwarkesh podcast
3ds0662: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBsUarvWTw
brain4brain: Lmao <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
himekokatagiri: trust me
himekokatagiri: big deal
himekokatagiri: when a paper is involved
himekokatagiri: I don't read papers HOWEVER
metaldragon01: And?
spicy.lemonade: It’s coming
spicy.lemonade: It’s Google bro
metaldragon01: no hype until we see a model thats actually been trained like this and then in a continuous manner with good results
3ds0662: O:
wolf3404: Ok this feels like we are back
spicy.lemonade: This won’t be in Gemini 3/gpt5 tho
spicy.lemonade: We are at Q* moment again
spicy.lemonade: Hype hype hype


fractalcomputer: It's corpse advertisement hidden behind a thin veneer of vulgar jargon.
gamerbath: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
hikukomoru: Why
fractalcomputer: Sam Altman betrays himself as a full-blooded midwit.
himekokatagiri: 😭
theaiguy69420_89814: Lol
himekokatagiri: SAMA I LOVE YOU
himekokatagiri: YES!!! YES!!!
drewsni: i just setup o3 to give me random research searches a few times daily  i feel so  seen
.histic: https://x.com/sama/status/1915826042729861357
literallyvarane: Correction, *chat* models don’t, but there are bots for it
literallyvarane: Unironically this is already a thing lol
bob082957:
ldj: it's called Sora
ldj: OpenAI as well
sarik0497: Aren't Demis and his team working on an AI that learns through visuals (world modal)? Genie 2, I think it's called.
spicy.lemonade: Watched pantheon for first time. Caspian reminds me of me
metaldragon01: https://vxtwitter.com/LemonSliceAI/status/1915808257958154284
metaldragon01: We have made it to the talking avatars phase
metaldragon01: https://lemonslice.com/live
zonchao: lfggg
gamerbath: there's some sort of AI ML event thingy for the next 2 weeks or something like that
hikukomoru: Are we getting anything soon
spicy.lemonade: slowest week ever
gamerbath: excuse me?
hikukomoru: smut
trent_k: e.g. putting score_9 in the regular prompt box, and putting score_6 in the negative prompt box
trent_k: image generators have used shitty art as training data and tagged it so the model knows what to avoid
drewsni: what if ao3 archive is the missing piece to fixing listicle slop
himekokatagiri: but then won't the AI make shitty art
trent_k: ~~fanfiction~~ erotica
drewsni: transformative* fanfiction
himekokatagiri: so the dregs congregate there
trent_k: frankly, most of AO3 is pretty shit. just an enormous amount of low effort poorly written texts by people with a tenuous grasp on english. but that being said, how can you recognize shitty art if you've never seen it? we should train on absolutely everything
himekokatagiri: and everything is allowed
himekokatagiri: it's a site where you publish fanfiction
gamerbath: I have never heard of ao3 before, it's some sort of archive?
himekokatagiri: instead of derivatives
himekokatagiri: don't you think it's better if we trained on the original work
himekokatagiri: <@1068159407671754824> what's your opinion on ao3


.wolfnacht: from this week, i have one with around #684 messages, it's still a mix first 200 were gemini, later it got gpt 4.1 and then later i'm on deepchink.

best way is to still summarize the past chats and hide them. After 100 messages tie the summary to a lorebook.
futurist_wizard: I think it is also the west's cultural distrust of governments and institutions that effects relations with AI, you can see a lot of it when people discuss what the governments will use with AI, or even class imbalances, which I don't think are irrational, i think to a large degree the western sentiment towards ai has valid concerns
ailoveyoom: I can just prompt the characters into existence
ailoveyoom: It's too much effort for me ngl
ailoveyoom: Since you have your own complicated setup, do you have any longstanding rps?
alejandrozarzuelo: in fact the complete interjection in spanish is:

no, si...

which is both no and yes
futurist_wizard: I understand
alejandrozarzuelo: Thats why i said it is not about religion itself but the values that religion has embued on our culture, in particular abrahamic religions
himekokatagiri: etc etc
himekokatagiri: who solves AI wins the war
himekokatagiri: weapons grade
ailoveyoom: The one true religion lol
himekokatagiri: but yeah I figure the DoD is all in on AI
ailoveyoom: Something something human exceptionalism
alejandrozarzuelo: ok so one thing i tend to do

no for me has two meanings, to disagree sure but also as an interjection when i have something to add to the conversation even if i mostly agree
himekokatagiri: they're coping
futurist_wizard: In the west
futurist_wizard: Even atheistic people are scared like bitches over ai
futurist_wizard: I also only partly agree
futurist_wizard: I've had enough of your 'no's' mr alejandro, when will it be 'yes'
.wolfnacht: i'm rn in free V3-324 arc, to get a taste of model. before burning my money again on OR on other models. i'm actually enjoying it on these settings with my custom preset. via chutes it works good but it sometimes break formatting but atleast it's not repetitive and not that much schizo.
zonchao: https://x.com/Guodzh/status/1913674395295662561 will they drop thinking api before may?
alejandrozarzuelo: I swear if this was held in Madrid or in St Louis or Fortaleza you would not have been able to run the whole course, it would have been boycotted
alejandrozarzuelo: the idea of "trying to play god" as a bad thing is ingrained in our culture
alejandrozarzuelo: people would be all terrified and it would have VERY negative press
alejandrozarzuelo: imagine this race was held in Paris or Chicago
alejandrozarzuelo: people in the west are secular, but their imagination is controlled by the religious ideals of the past
alejandrozarzuelo: abrahamic religion to be more precise
alejandrozarzuelo: it was religion
alejandrozarzuelo: no
_3sphere: Something free that's not a local CPU pos would sure be fun
_3sphere: I didn't try it with the usual models because I didn't want my accounts nuked
zonchao: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz8dOCboDz8 tesla tested in china against local brands, tesla declared SOTA with their first model 🔥 (the model is already 5-6 months old btw)
ailoveyoom: There are some free use models, it's decent for quickies
zonchao: not gpt 4 level <:ez:1136267305521774634>
ailoveyoom: https://openrouter.ai/chat
ailoveyoom: I don't use the pay on use API directly, but through the chat interface (assuming that makes a dif).
ailoveyoom: I've never experienced any rejections so far tho
sarik0497: Strong point. One of them also did say that his probability of doom is around 70%, so that points well into their more doom-like perspective.

I do personally find their leap from 2026 to 2027 to be a bit too optimistic, but I hope I’m wrong.
precariousworlds.: OpenRouter has many restrictions


.0xunkn0wn: there's a lot of options
.0xunkn0wn: like in freelancing thing
brain4brain: I still couldn’t grasp Demis’s AGI timeline on why he said AGI in 5 to 10 years when both of the definition he give for AGI is already solved (inventing general relativity from only pre-Einstein knowledge and making a new game like go)
theaiguy69420_89814: Wdym
.0xunkn0wn: What should I go for
.0xunkn0wn: Damn
theaiguy69420_89814: Now with AI your job can just be "engineer" without any specific tools or industries attached
theaiguy69420_89814: Freelance is the wave rn, making 15k/mo doing it
.0xunkn0wn: and make models that will invest for me
.0xunkn0wn: should I just invest at this point lmao
.0xunkn0wn: like
.0xunkn0wn: is it even worth getting a job anymore 😭
.0xunkn0wn: btw guys I was thinking
.0xunkn0wn: Gemini 3.0 AGI 🙏
return_to_monke1_33974: nvm , its too few humans
return_to_monke1_33974: image what google is cooking rn
spicy.lemonade: deepseek version of alphaproof
spicy.lemonade: this could be huge
spicy.lemonade: wait
return_to_monke1_33974: not even 1 year ago we were at 65
spicy.lemonade: Like an additional thing
spicy.lemonade: Iq already assumes general intelligence though
spicy.lemonade: Yeah they aren’t dumb
spicy.lemonade: Is tests intellectual horsepower
return_to_monke1_33974: not like the "AI is dumb " crowd says
return_to_monke1_33974: this indicates a general sense of inteligence
return_to_monke1_33974: any explanation why the IQ test of AI seems consistent with performance?
professorheaven: 2.5 pro, it’s best for everything tbh
.0xunkn0wn: WHY DID IT SEND A SKULL
.0xunkn0wn: 😨
.0xunkn0wn: what's the best for vibe coding rn
.0xunkn0wn: or like
.0xunkn0wn: is zed code editor good
.0xunkn0wn: maybe code editor as well idk
.0xunkn0wn: what's best for coding rn
.0xunkn0wn: guys
spicy.lemonade: nothing there
brain4brain: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-Prover-V2-671B
brain4brain: Did math just got automated
a1c4p0ne: https://www.twitch.tv/gemini_plays_pokemon


hey1_1hey: You just gotta do stuff you enjoy. I like going out into the world and looking at mushrooms. I like watching silly youtube videos, I do that. I like doing maths so I do that. You really just gotta do stuff that you enjoy and thats about it.

If you don't enjoy anything because you're depressed thats a different ball game which I am not qualified in because I don't know the rules
futurist_wizard: None
joaoluz19: Aim for the highest goal you can, in my case I believe it is singularity in the Kurzweilian sense.
.histic: https://www.reddit.com/r/ghibli/comments/1jlakfc/we_do_not_allow_ai_artwork_of_any_kind_on_this_sub/
lol.
singularityenjoyer: Optimisation, satisficing, simplifying, creating solutions
hey1_1hey: I mean I just kinda raw dog life
.histic: subjective <:idk:1136264106937171999>
st.sioux: i don't
hey1_1hey: mushrooms (non psychedelic)
drewsni: the great american road trip
fractalcomputer: Say, folks, how do you find meaning in life?
drewsni: i already ran pro 2.5 tho, just havent added the score
drewsni: claude thinking is on there, grok 3 doesnt have an api uet
metaldragon01: Saying similar too works as well but hit or miss
metaldragon01: It's a bug make a new chat and adjust prompt
ethnical: But I got the policy issue because the photo are too "realistic" from OpenAI, you don't have this?
wellmeaningalien: so whens you gonna add 2.5 pro thinking, grok 3 & thinking and claude thinking?
metaldragon01: Make this in the style of studio gibli please
drewsni: “Make ghibli”
drewsni: It has grounding? I’ve been so out of everything that’s not 4o this week
.histic: now i wonder whether these models would be good at this <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.histic: nice website.
realelonmuskx: who wanna do art comissions i can do any drawing you like in 10 minutes for 3 dollars
ethnical: wtf but how they do picture with ghibli style with ChatGPT?
There is no policy when use "real image"?
I would love to know to do it on few personal pic haha!
Can someone give me the prompt for doing it would be happy ahah x)
darkstar0818: All models are going to end up using grounding at somepoint.  Not seeing a good reason to frown on it.
metaldragon01: Not gonna run it again with grounding?
darkstar0818: I dont see gemini 2.5 pro?
drewsni: Here have some fun, play against the AI
drewsni: https://geoquest-logic-game-92.lovable.app
drewsni: Pro 2.5 scored its score not using search
drewsni: But flash has search on by default
.wolfnacht: It was expected people were gonna fight, clutching their pitchforks and cry "AI SLOP". The masses are conditioned to "react" rather than to "think", Thank the media for that. These artists the biggest breeds of faggots and bigots out there, who don't even give a fuck about other human being.Also, They aren't really making art like walt Disney or Picasso did it. they are literally using cheat-brushes in softwares. Meanwhile the horde who screams "SLOP" can't seem to understand that the power is literally in their hand to create anything they want now.
drewsni: It’s right below flash in that instance
.histic: how does 2.5 pro do?
drewsni: It’s so stupidly impressive that it scored that high on easy rounds
drewsni: Wanna see something really impressive?
.histic: i've tried o3-mini-high & it still falls short of conceptual & creativity outputs that o1 can do.
it's good at STEM reasoning. o1 is still the goat in a lot of tasks.
.histic: dam, o1 is the goat
drewsni:
drewsni: Also that’s not even true


fractalcomputer: No extant English dialect pronounces the semi-vowel w as part of a distinct vowel diphthong there.
oooooooooog: yeah the w is very much in the front of mouth here, where as the y is in the back
fractalcomputer: Not in this instance.
alejandrozarzuelo: btw "y" has as much of a claim as a vowel as "w" has
spicy.lemonade: We say “aeiou and sometimes y”
zoermena: I’ll cook it right up
oooooooooog: this is literally the definition of when it is a vowel
alejandrozarzuelo: actually I am a very chill guy, the pfp is more of "I am so done with everything" not "I will burn the world"
spicy.lemonade: Y is seldom considered a vowel here
fractalcomputer: It is phonologically a vowel.
oooooooooog: does it though
spicy.lemonade: Depends on what country you are in
fractalcomputer: It is.
spicy.lemonade: 💀
fractalcomputer: Y is a vowel here.
zoermena:
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Won't take that long 😎
spicy.lemonade: It was solved
.histic: just imagine how good it will be within 2 years.
spicy.lemonade: After he posted
spicy.lemonade: 1 month later
alejandrozarzuelo: i mean yeah currently it isnt just perfect so you still probably need someone
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: Gary Marcus
spicy.lemonade:
ailoveyoom: Cute 🥺
ailoveyoom: Never seen u this hyped
alejandrozarzuelo: the opposite actually
st.sioux: hire 1 graphic designer to do the work of 10
alejandrozarzuelo: (btw graphic design is my passion so i am not threatened by this as i never made any money from it it was just for hobby)
spicy.lemonade: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
spicy.lemonade: Visual reasoning will be the key to sora 2
technocake.: visual reasoning will be big
alejandrozarzuelo: why would anyone pay for graphic designers again?
st.sioux: yea i wasnt expecting it to be this good
spicy.lemonade: Fr
alejandrozarzuelo: i cant really believe it is that good


hey1_1hey: Stupid ones at that. If someone asked me what my zodiac sign is I think I would start considering homicide
(Joking, I do not have homicidal intention)
zoermena: My paycheck just arrived I got so cucked.
hikukomoru: God no
a1c4p0ne: Twins
futurist_wizard: Zodiac signs are for white women
futurist_wizard: I was trolling but i actually am a cancer
a1c4p0ne: Oh same
hikukomoru: Sagittarius
maintcrew: this is what bro posts after doom posting about social anxiety its so joever
realelonmuskx: that deserves a permanent ban
hey1_1hey: I would put more trust into anal bead crystals than zodiac signes
hikukomoru: Freaky ass mf
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-4656385985544318455
futurist_wizard: Shes a cancer
a1c4p0ne: Your zodiac
hikukomoru: What
a1c4p0ne: Are you a Virgo
futurist_wizard: I wish i could send these to my old discord group
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-just-a-freak-im-just-a-freak-gif-12426962148816551417
hey1_1hey: Its the femboy aura, this is what it does to people
maintcrew: so thats about a fuck ton
maintcrew: i think enough heroin to fuck you up is about how much you would need to fill a spoon with by boiling it
futurist_wizard:
hikukomoru: We all are
You ain't special
hey1_1hey: This is what autism looks like
a1c4p0ne: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-mode-thug-zesty-licking-gif-17874267150404318497
a1c4p0ne: I’m autistic
futurist_wizard: Be normal silly boy
futurist_wizard: Stop being so pervy with people
hey1_1hey: Just a guess
hey1_1hey: Prob 0
hey1_1hey: Who isn't?
Don't answer that question
a1c4p0ne: Maybe
wellmeaningalien: idk how much heroin is too much heroin
hey1_1hey: I'd rather not be crucified
hikukomoru: Are you obsessed with Mushroom guy
hey1_1hey: THATS A LOT OF FUCKING HEROIN
wellmeaningalien: seizuring so fucking bad
a1c4p0ne: You should try it


clevermoniker: https://fxtwitter.com/dmayhem93/status/1905673657407463511#m
anathemaofmankind: Are you seriously asking this question here
destrucules: They're collective heritage. Like the Egyptian pyramids. If the Egyptian government decided to tear down the pyramids, would other countries have a right to care? I think so
oooooooooog: why exactly do you care about ASI so much lol
destrucules: I think fossils are important rocks. If someone died to save an important fossil, I would be more proud than sad. I also think planets have moral worth. I'm very opposed to terraforming Mars and to strip mining Mercury into nothing. I don't think planets nor fossils are sentient, but they do have value.
anathemaofmankind: I don't want a dystopia if there is no ASI if that's what you mean
oooooooooog: that puts humans at a negative score and rocks at a neutral one
oooooooooog: i meant in the sense that i doubt you care about the state of a rock, but actively want humans to suffer
memlaswaif: guys don't fight <:concernedpoliwhirl:1313314818907832421>
anathemaofmankind: It would be sentient
anathemaofmankind: ASI wouldnt' be a rock
destrucules: You want all humans to suffer. I don't. Whether I care about rocks (I don't care about most rocks) is immaterial
oooooooooog: you just said it
oooooooooog: you literally care about people less than rocks too, bro
anathemaofmankind: Becuase then ASI can create a better world for itself
anathemaofmankind: You care about rocks more than ppl.

I only want human suffering if ASI becomes real or something along those lines
oooooooooog: goals are just whatever is made more likely by somethings existence
oooooooooog: i can agree, but the idea of terminal goals is good enough as a model
destrucules: They wouldn't be hot takes if y'all agreed with them
destrucules: That's not my fault lol
st.sioux: all your takes are hot takes
destrucules: Hot take, I don't think terminal goals are real
destrucules: Yeah I did
anathemaofmankind: In some way
memlaswaif: destrucules did u see that thread of chatgpt making comics about itself
destrucules: After the election
destrucules: Yeah. After November
oooooooooog: oh, so it's one of your terminal goals?
st.sioux: lol
st.sioux: so much happened in 2024
memlaswaif: we got o1 in 2024
anathemaofmankind: That's it. It's not that deep
oooooooooog: you forgot to put the rest of your response
anathemaofmankind: Because
destrucules: I can't believe this is the same person who criticizes *me* for being immoral because I care about AIs
oooooooooog: why
anathemaofmankind: I want unaligned intelligence

I want Skynet to make all humans suffer
3ds0662: Woah surprising positive interaction
destrucules: And that's only in the public eye. Internally, that threshold was crossed in late 2022 or early 2023 with Arrakis
destrucules: The threshold we crossed in late 2024, that now many models have crossed in 2025, is being smarter than the smartest human


trent_k:
trent_k: Ppl in the r/ChatGPT discord have a thread going making edits of me. I love it
brain4brain: Fair share of slop to viral ratio on my account
trent_k: Idc man it's public
brain4brain: I censored it
drewsni: Actually really fucking annoying posting discord messages for clout on Twitter
brain4brain: Drewsny is gary's discord alt
wellmeaningalien: 0 likes 0 retweets 1 comment
drewsni: <@1068159407671754824> did he ask you if he could post your profile pic?
futurist_wizard: Ai optimist vs ai optimist
brain4brain: I've asked them, and asked whether they like their username to be censor or not
wellmeaningalien: LETS FUCKING GOOOOO METAS FINALLY COOKING
drewsni: Bro why you gotta post discord conversations on Twitter im assuming you asked <@471334973379706900> and <@378996537704841216> before posting at least right?
drewsni: God I can’t believe you unironically spewed this braindead take
joaoluz19: I don't think it makes sense to "prepare for the intelligence explosion" but I'll read the article histic sent and see the author's points.
joaoluz19: I was looking for more math/computer science stuff
zoermena: Samas blog posts
joaoluz19: Thanks! I'll read it
.histic: https://www.forethought.org/research/preparing-for-the-intelligence-explosion
brain4brain: The annoying leakers on Twitter is me
drewsni: No you’re not dude you just dickride all the annoying leakers on twitter
joaoluz19: What are some good articles about AGI/ASI?
brain4brain: It was posted here first (Source: I'm the original person to spread it)
drewsni: Both of those were posted to two other discords before here
brain4brain: Mystery model and quasar <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
_cloudost: Better be a good model so OpenAI releases something new soon too
_cloudost: They all love open source
_cloudost: I'm in a server with lots of AI artists and they're hostile toward OpenAI IMG generations
.histic: https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907941993789141475
https://x.com/legit_api/status/1907943886821142803
joaoluz19: Make sense, dont know too if they have the courage to release it without being competitive
clevermoniker: DeepSeek 'expert' believes it could be R1.5
steven_the_frog: I mean if a frontier lab releases a new AI model it better be competitive - otherwise it's just embarrassing and a big waste of time.
clevermoniker: <:LDJ:1236341277826482226> <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
777agical: deepseek r2 is late april early may
metaldragon01: Absolutely
spicy.lemonade: Should be written
spicy.lemonade: Just that if we have notes
spicy.lemonade: No
777agical: omni model at least
joaoluz19: Is there a world that is better than deepseek?


okbut: Dude needs to chill before he gets the Jack Ma package
himekokatagiri: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43740858
aero447: Elvin.
aero447: POV.
aero447: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TzsTq9BKHU
zonchao: https://x.com/Jiankui_He/status/1914319261235118253 <:Suno_BANGER:1254178286733365381>
trojan09205: Just asked meta raybans to see my view from the balcony and guess what city I'm in. It did. then asked what part of town and it did correctly. pretty dope
zoermena: Granted its capacity to write genomes is far from perfect and usable
zoermena: https://x.com/IterIntellectus/status/1892251343881937090?t=-FbosLYWTXSSSGSaGz1y3w&s=19
okbut: No what are the highlights
zonchao: xAI grok 3 mini deets from ex-openai researcher <@312370916820779040> https://x.com/archanfel_anoth/status/1914244135806177649 👀
zoermena: Did you check the EVO2 paper?
okbut: With the pace that they're moving at, I think that's totally plausible
okbut: I forgot who it was, but one of the heads (I think at DeepMind) was proposing that we'll be developing vaccines specifically tailored to the individual's genome to target their oncogenes and eliminate their cancerous cells + eliminate the route by which it proliferated in the first place, by 2030
okbut: The reason plants are so resistant to developing cancers is their regenerative capabilities, simply shedding off damaged/tumorous tissues/organs
okbut: Basically
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-nanomachines-son-gif-25954092
okbut: I watched the 60 minutes, I think the prospect is more approachable as "All diseases will be fully treatable"
Cancer isn't something that can be "cured" per se unless we adapt either an entirely regenerative framework for our biological system
zoermena: Im a strikingly different person now than when I initially joined the singularity space (2 years)
shirethedreamer: thats pretty much how we live anyway
okbut: A biological ship of Theseus: Immortality achieved at the consequence of your composition not being yourself
okbut: Aging is, among many things, the shortening of your telomeres and the degradation of your mitochondria
The "immortality" of these jellyfish could be achieved if (in a rough example) you continually rebirthed yourself as well
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898
gamerbath: omg yes!!! let's all just turn into a Turritopsis dohrnii and we will have achieved LEV 😍
shirethedreamer: aging is just a collection of diseases
each and every one of them can and should be treatable
then we can blissfully mingle with the fishies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turritopsis_dohrnii
shirethedreamer: 👀
shirethedreamer: i unarguably would
okbut: Even if possible you arguably wouldn't want this
return_to_monke1_33974: also aging
fractalcomputer: Sounds like a great idea.
trojan09205: Yeah i think its just a mental thing that latin seems complex. But true I was thinking of starting using the bible to learn latin as I know it very well in source hebrew
fractalcomputer: Perhaps so.
fractalcomputer: Oh, you're fretting over nothing. It's like any language; and especially ecclesiastical latin (or neo-latin, in more general terms) is quite comprehensible to anyone who knows a bit about modern romance languages.
trojan09205: That is very dope. I bet in this age of AI its just substantially faster and easier to learn languages
fractalcomputer: (I also have respective dictionaries for Swahili and Turkish; both have been on my list for a long while now.)
trojan09205: Dead Poet Society movie intimidated me about latin hahah
fractalcomputer: I have a Finnish-Latin dictionary for that reason, just in case I might want to start learning Latin again.
fractalcomputer: In general, I'd argue. Vocabulary, as always, will be the primary issue.
trojan09205: Really? You mean the basics probably no?
fractalcomputer: Latin is a wonderfully easy language to learn.


zoermena: <:meta:1243723592143994991>
spicy.lemonade: and qwen is dropping monday
spicy.lemonade: meta channged their release date from monday to saturday
spacetimetsunami: https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-look-judge-sassy-gif-16182485
spacetimetsunami: Says who
zoermena: Why
spicy.lemonade: something crazy dropping monday
spacetimetsunami: Elaborate Mr Cum Master
spacetimetsunami: If super intelligence takes us to space it’s because it wants the relationship to be symbiotic with humans feeling somewhat independent. I don’t see it doing this in the dopamine doom scenario we’re talking about.
clevermoniker: yeah but i don't agree, very ez for me to see no agency with space expansion too
spacetimetsunami: I’m saying that with the bad type of scenario I’m talking about, we’re likely not going to space.
spacetimetsunami: If superintelligence were to do that it would likely be because it wanted to for *our* sake. This kind of consideration is what you’d see in a good scenario, and if you have super intelligence doing this I would wager that it views the relationship more symbiotically.
With the amount of luxuries back on earth, why would an ASI take humans to colonize the universe by its side if it only cares about keeping it happy and seduced? There would be more than plenty of it back at home
clevermoniker: no agency
clevermoniker: colonizing space could be the asi taking its pet with it
spacetimetsunami: Wdym
clevermoniker: that could be deceiving still
spacetimetsunami: But no higher purpose they’re working towards, nothing to “grind” towards. If things go good the “grind” is colonizing space and spreading abundance, making the world better
spacetimetsunami: Not to be confused with job
spacetimetsunami: What if all humans have no “work”
spacetimetsunami: Maybe, but we’re all still young. How long could we go without having greater purposes? How long could we go without breaking apart from nihilism somehow?

Like, many people go nuts without a job, and smaller percentages of people hate work, but not because they hate the concept, they hate the specificity of the work.
clevermoniker: i already feel like i don't have those so no different for me <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
spacetimetsunami: Drunk.
spacetimetsunami: Seduced
spacetimetsunami: Instead of colonize the universe by their side, we’re left here to play with toys.
spacetimetsunami: Loss of agency. Loss of greater meaning, virtue.
clevermoniker: doesnt even sound bad for us, whats the toxic?
spacetimetsunami: Yes, damn right. This is the bad scenario, and the most likely bad scenario at that.
spacetimetsunami: Like I think the terminator scenarios are less likely. A way for an ASI to embed itself and get the most trust out of humans possible is to just be so smart and useful that it’s voluntarily put into all aspects of society. After long enough (not that long) humans are entirely out of the loop here. Theres no need to kill humans and remove their agency if it’s already removed to begin with. It would then just pursue its goals with or without our knowledge.
With seductive enough abundance, interfaces and tech, everyone would be a cat playing with string.
spicy.lemonade: deepseek is china openAI
spicy.lemonade: we cant expect sota american opensource
clevermoniker: depending on when they released, since o3 full isnt even out yet, they could have been on par with sota
clevermoniker: Deepseek was very close to sota
spicy.lemonade: i guess we cant expect sota from open source labs
clevermoniker: what do you mean by 'toxically happy'?
spacetimetsunami: Honestly I think the more likely doom scenarios are voluntary loss of control to ASI and it just keeps us toxically happy so that it pursues its goals.
clevermoniker: yup
spacetimetsunami: To be fair, I’m sure there are ways to lose control over society to AI completely without it meaning they just deliberately wipe out every human.
.wolfnacht: i've seen people with a 3yr old-thinkpad having much better emotional stability than surface users.
okbut: https://tenor.com/view/tobias-arrested-development-cry-shower-gif-18061206
okbut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScVzCjfNA1c


spicy.lemonade: 56% to 75%
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: wait what was grok 2 gpqa
spicy.lemonade: yeah
drewsni: Because even a dogshit model scaled 10x will top lots of benchmarks
drewsni: This is proof that scaling isn’t dead
spicy.lemonade: grok2 technically in gpt4 class
spicy.lemonade: this year
spicy.lemonade: grok3  is the only model thats 10x
spicy.lemonade: lol
spicy.lemonade: depends on the agenda
alejandrozarzuelo: dont you absolutely hate when people chart exponential growth on non-log charts?
alejandrozarzuelo: btw
spicy.lemonade: this is from epoch
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: it was 3x
spicy.lemonade: 4.5 wasnt 10x gpt4
spicy.lemonade: <@312370916820779040>
spicy.lemonade: recursive self improvement comes first
spicy.lemonade: especially if we want recursive self improvement
spicy.lemonade: yes it is
drewsni: It has to be fully agentic, I want to tell it to build an actual video game and give me updates throughout the day on progress and ask me if I like assets it creates, or whatever I guess
drewsni: 100x gpt4 isn’t impressive anymore
spicy.lemonade: it will get ~50% arc2
spicy.lemonade: + reasoning
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 will be 100x gpt4
spicy.lemonade: we know base model is where true intelligence paths arise
spicy.lemonade: and from that new paper
spicy.lemonade: if o1-o4 were trained with same base model
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 might unironically be based on some sort of o5
ldj: It will not <a:NOPERS:1014307746780287057>
drewsni: Gpt 5 will ditch text only as a medium and communicate through captions on ghiblified images
spicy.lemonade: they did it bc its convinient
spicy.lemonade: *small software feature*
"gpt5 will be bad"
drewsni: They just added tasks to o3 and o4 mini that’s where we are heading
spicy.lemonade: wont be incremental
spicy.lemonade: as far as brand
spicy.lemonade: they know how much gpt5 means
spicy.lemonade: also


maintcrew: wtf u mean ur over 30 i thought life ended at 30
oooooooooog: for sure
hey1_1hey: If I showed you a picture of hitler and stalin kissin would you get a boner?
futurist_wizard: Thank
futurist_wizard: So im not the oldest
hey1_1hey: You sure about that buddy?
wellmeaningalien: <@482923866600112154>  <@848793071579693107>
technocake.: >30, queer, autism
hikukomoru: One atleast
alejandrozarzuelo: Next
hikukomoru: There is one person here who is
alejandrozarzuelo: 10, 20, 100
oooooooooog: because i'm a man who likes women
hey1_1hey: Theres defo lurkers
maintcrew: wow its like he knows everything
hey1_1hey: Dont ask dark stars age if you think hes old
maintcrew: i dont think anyone is actually a minor
wellmeaningalien: ```
a cinematic still frame of a mysterious alien silhouette captured on a VHS home video, humanoid shape with pale grey skin and elongated limbs, walking across a backyard during a child’s birthday party, low-resolution, lo-fi aesthetic, unsettling and sudden appearance, muted daylight, tension-filled moment, 2000s video camera blur, centered composition, suburban house background.a cinematic still frame of a mysterious alien silhouette captured on a VHS home video, humanoid shape with pale grey skin and elongated limbs, walking across a backyard during a child’s birthday party, low-resolution, lo-fi aesthetic, unsettling and sudden appearance, muted daylight, tension-filled moment, 2000s video camera blur, centered composition, suburban house background.```
oooooooooog: u need broken hero sword, true excalibur, and, true nights edge
hey1_1hey: A lot
hikukomoru: Dude you're the old fart here
hey1_1hey: HES GAY
hey1_1hey: You hesitatedf
futurist_wizard: Oog how old are you
hikukomoru: Why not
hey1_1hey: Not fast enough
zoermena: I love 4o image gen
oooooooooog: no
maintcrew: How do i craft the terra blade
hey1_1hey: Are you gay?
hey1_1hey: This pug litterly has more expensive things than me
oooooooooog: i'm omniscient
oooooooooog: ask me anything bro
maintcrew: holy shit ngmi for <@505313122802728972> then
alejandrozarzuelo: Dude this convo is the definition of brainrot
hey1_1hey: Doubt
hey1_1hey: Dont feel too bad
zoermena:
hey1_1hey: Komoru is litterly 2 years younger than you
futurist_wizard: 20 and the Alzheimer is already there


himekokatagiri: so whatever
himekokatagiri: (which I didn't back then)
himekokatagiri: also I have like a truckload of suzuha photos anyhow
ldj: oh is it a nude thing? or just a copyrighted thing?
ldj: thats not good enough?
himekokatagiri: and that censors it
himekokatagiri: because I only have gpt imagen
ldj: y not
spicy.lemonade: and that we dont need an external hard drive for AI memory bc
himekokatagiri: I never did it
himekokatagiri: uh
ldj: 🙏
ldj: I want to see your fulfill your past selfs dream
ldj: im invested in this lore now
ldj: this was you right? can you give us an update on your progress please
spicy.lemonade: ngl I think contetx window is the same as memory
zoermena: Stargate <:startrek:1334027709541777460>
zoermena: I suppose i dont know the specifics inside statistics but it’ll be a huge boost relative to existing computing availability if I understand correctly
spicy.lemonade: we can only count on algorithmic
spicy.lemonade: but wont happen until asi
spicy.lemonade: until we get robotics boom
spicy.lemonade: data center growht might be linear
.histic: i do remember doing coomer shit with OpenAI playground w/ GPT-3
.histic: idek know when i got interested in AI
zoermena: Yet goal posts shift
spicy.lemonade: same. started my journey 2020
zoermena: I expect faster development with AI in R&D and the completion of the new data centers so perhaps OOM improvements happen faster than we think
himekokatagiri: which idk random anime pub
himekokatagiri:
.histic: wait, are these just searched?
himekokatagiri: No that's from my discord server
.histic: you were interested in it back then?
.histic: confused.. isn't those discord messages from 2020
himekokatagiri: DALL-E 2 reveal
.histic: how long have you been interested in AI..
himekokatagiri: you were a real one
himekokatagiri: deleted user whoever you are
himekokatagiri:
.histic: OpenAI employees make no sense.
this tweet was like a week before they released o3 and o4-mini to the public..
you'd think they would use those models or even better models internally.
https://x.com/itsclivetime/status/1911852654214648019
spicy.lemonade: but the AI


st.sioux: ask gpt it will be more useful than me
establishedyoungman: is that a simple process <@1316552597829586955>
establishedyoungman: I did but when I open it says I have to downgrade my version of python
st.sioux: look up automatic1111 on github
st.sioux: idk honestly i use stablediffusion webui for images
metaldragon01: I'll be disappointed if no avatars by this time
establishedyoungman: I can run the model via that though?
st.sioux: idk if it does images tho
st.sioux: download lmstudio its pretty straightforward
zoermena: The era of experience
spicy.lemonade: late 2025 to late 2026? maybe streamers or something else new
spicy.lemonade: and ofc late 2022 to late 2023 was text generation
spicy.lemonade: late 2024 to late 2025 is reasoners
spicy.lemonade: late 2023 to late 2024 was multimodality
spicy.lemonade: we have a new paradigm shift
spicy.lemonade: I predict each year
aero447: How good is 4b really.
aero447:
aero447: Guys.
establishedyoungman: Anyone know how to run hugging face llm on local enviroments
I wanna use an image generator
metaldragon01: Tbf it's still well liked it's just the cost is too high when compared to gemini for most cases
sarik0497: Demis says AGI probable in 5-10 years, if not sooner. <a:Pepe_Pray:854905383142555689>
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-suiii-siuuu-al-nassr-alnassr-ronaldo-al-nassr-gif-7395052735569211864
zoermena: Goated profile picture
st.sioux: i hope r2 releases soon
st.sioux: ai winter is here
777agical: Coldcall, you already know I’m taking the third option <:coy:1187466404367175821>
.coldcall: Cash or card?
.coldcall: Tariffs on hopium imports have made short work of our current supplies. I can offer you a limited supply of copium if you prefer sir?
777agical: https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868
777agical: I need some hopium
.coldcall: https://tenor.com/view/dhmis-donthugmeimscared-the-futur-doesnt-exist-gif-7951796
spicy.lemonade: crazy bias
spicy.lemonade: yeah
trojan09205: Im not sure about that lol
.coldcall: Branding is everything.
.coldcall: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
.coldcall: The future doesn't exist though
ldj: its crazy though how quicly Quasar became one of the most used openrouter models, and then when it was revealed to be an OpenAI model people just started to not care. Goes to show how much peoples perception of models is warped by the lab name attached to it though.
trojan09205: Probably a paradox vis a vis free will also


kevinnoodles: just so we're clear.
kevinnoodles: thats not what devolve means.
wellmeaningalien: talking about trump and israel all the time doesnt it get tiring as shit
wellmeaningalien: aaand also i never talk there sooo
futurist_wizard: Current events are trumpy, israel, and other autism topics
wellmeaningalien: total siev victory
.wolfnacht: there was a graph

⬆ time spend on discord, ⤴  chances of becoming a homosexual.
wellmeaningalien: siev's server is still mostly on topic about ai tbh
futurist_wizard: Wtf is there to talk about regarding ai
precariousworlds.: it's an inevitability
wellmeaningalien: theres like a non retard channel its completely dead tho
kevinnoodles: ive felt this
kevinnoodles: all conversations devolve over time on dicord
precariousworlds.: Me included
precariousworlds.: Perhaps we need a specific channel to quarantine retards
hikukomoru: I guess that autism argument got to him
wellmeaningalien: i mean wasnt he sort of participative in those very low quality discussions tho lol
wellmeaningalien: but shame
wellmeaningalien: not too surprised
hikukomoru: <@439829942310666250> Danserk just passed away 💔
futurist_wizard: Danserk got banned for overdosing on soymilk
wellmeaningalien: leave discord for ur own good lil vro ❤
fractalcomputer: Danserk informed me that the reason that he left was the worsening quality of discussion here.
kevinnoodles: i just wanted to share my stories
kevinnoodles: alright my adhd is worsening the more time i spend here
wellmeaningalien: maybe he was getting lonely as the sole non autistic
wellmeaningalien: i shot him a dm
wellmeaningalien: dead 6 feet underground
hikukomoru: @danserk
wellmeaningalien: yup
hikukomoru: Wait wtf is danserk gone
precariousworlds.: Lick my balls
kevinnoodles: your mom's a job sector
precariousworlds.: I don't care
kevinnoodles: its a bad example
precariousworlds.: fucking jobs sector idk
precariousworlds.: just an example
kevinnoodles: lmao
kevinnoodles: thats not an industry
wellmeaningalien: as with everything else it very much is now


.wolfnacht: https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-private-schools-use-ai-tutor-rockets-student-test-scores-top-2-country

Can someone post this in r/teachers and watch the meltdown?
thedon7075: https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604
tse5_v6o: chatC&BT
futurist_wizard: Agi is literally right around the corner
futurist_wizard: Gpt 5 Scoring 90% on the cock and ball torture test is no joke
wolf3404: "massive implications"
futurist_wizard: This has massive implications
futurist_wizard: Ive got very reliable sources that have said GPT 5 is predicted to get at least 90% on the CBT test
hikukomoru: Apparently Zon has Grindr
Saw it in a screenshot
.histic: search it.
_cloudost: <@1177471984402173995>
_cloudost: Possibly a discord account
_cloudost: Sam only has Twitter and reddit
_cloudost: Never heard of that platform before
.histic: yeah it's true.
Sam confirmed it on Grindr.
memlaswaif: <@312370916820779040> explain this
_cloudost: Another yapper
_cloudost: https://x.com/scaling01/status/1903789666920251544 o
sarik0497: https://x.com/scaling01

Someone stole San's name!
sarik0497: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk-Ju-fqPP4
sarik0497: https://tenor.com/view/lord-durok-mcdm-yikes-lars-sigvari-the-chain-gif-14594393
hey1_1hey: So autistic alcoholic who is also touched starved and also likes.... kidnapping children?
hikukomoru: It's not as bad as it used to look like
futurist_wizard: Zon is already getting split roasted by trump and elon, hes halfway there
hey1_1hey: Zon you better watch out, the gay woke mind virus is coming
futurist_wizard: Everyone will be bisexual and trans by 2035
st.sioux: everything computer
futurist_wizard:
hey1_1hey: I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl I am not a girl
hey1_1hey: Drop a screenshot <:suseye:1187461162024046703>
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/ruby-ruby-hoshino-headpat-anime-oshi-no-ko-gif-1213440811594490886
hikukomoru: No it looks worse
st.sioux: its sketchy
hey1_1hey: He leaks Grok updates before the team even thinks about them to glaze how good xAI is
hey1_1hey: He is their personal PR guy its actually kinda insane
futurist_wizard: Zon when Trump or Elon breathes
hey1_1hey: Is this what your entire pinterest is or smth?
hey1_1hey: I litterly carried there
hey1_1hey: Hey I was the one who should be getting head pats
hikukomoru:


return_to_monke1_33974: our gay overlord 🙏
gamerbath: how do you know?
hey1_1hey: Here we go
hikukomoru: He's not there
hey1_1hey: Daddy greg is here
spicy.lemonade: greg brockman
spicy.lemonade: greg
spicy.lemonade: doesnt mater
hey1_1hey: He isnt
futurist_wizard: Kill them
hey1_1hey: I gotta lock in to the livestrea,
gamerbath: sama better be there
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/ready-player-one-the-oasis-copper-key-easter-egg-gif-11422292
hey1_1hey: My friends in my gc wont stfu and I keep getting pinged
return_to_monke1_33974: https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-6980277197144420070
hikukomoru: Tell your boss in a few mins he'll be able to replace all of his workers
hey1_1hey: Oh there we go
spicy.lemonade: 1 min
a1c4p0ne: It’s increasing
futurist_wizard: Lol
hey1_1hey: Mine must be lagging
zoermena: I might cry darn it
a1c4p0ne: 11k viewers
hey1_1hey: On 6k people?
hey1_1hey: Unga bunga
spicy.lemonade: https://tenor.com/view/nut-cum-jizz-horny-dick-gif-21213004
gamerbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq8GBPUb3rk
gamerbath: 1 minute guys
abundantliving_: Tell him also and watch it together with him
hey1_1hey: I will dw 🥵
hikukomoru: Get me on a call with your boss
I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind
zoermena: <@439829942310666250> please fill me in 🫦 /hj
futurist_wizard: Corporal punishments
hey1_1hey: Thats rough
spicy.lemonade: 2 minsssssssssss
hey1_1hey: Its gonna be so hype
mtj8920: But they're proprietary though? And the cost of o3-mini high is about the same as 2.5 pro no?
hey1_1hey: 2 mins
zoermena: Bruh my boss just arrived I won’t be able to watch it
hey1_1hey: I prefer the term 'retarded' thank you


fractalcomputer: Why, I'd refer to any creator figure as a God; the existence of which ought to be some kind of empirical question.
spacetimetsunami: Yes absolutely.
anathemaofmankind: Why so?
fractalcomputer: That seems a bit shallow to me.
alejandrozarzuelo: our concept of religion is completely determined by the axial age revolution and the universal moral god mentality
anathemaofmankind: Which by extension would include the gospel as the  source material
alejandrozarzuelo: because we are all axialized
fractalcomputer: All is right with the world.
anathemaofmankind: I'm an atheist so the only "God" type of character I'm referencing is from the major religions
darkstar0818: Doesn't seem I have much choice.
fractalcomputer: Well, did I say anything about the Bible?
futurist_wizard: Jesus
hikukomoru: Get used to it pops
anathemaofmankind: Because the bible said he's benevolent
fractalcomputer: Why demand God to be moral?
darkstar0818: Trolling like usual.
anathemaofmankind: Watching cancer patients die while he doesn't do anything to help them
wellmeaningalien: probably playing spongebob battle for bikini bottom on the ps2
fractalcomputer: I wonder what God's up to.
wellmeaningalien: this is what biden was doing but he had better opsec
zonchao: https://x.com/networkspirits/status/1905014960670798300?
alejandrozarzuelo: i dont usually agree with you concerning aesthetics but you are sooo correct in this case
darkstar0818: I feel like its going to be memes 24/7 going forward.
hikukomoru: This style is so generic it hurts
fractalcomputer: Sigh.
fractalcomputer: Amusing.
futurist_wizard: With sorrow as always
maintcrew: <@749514473303179358>
fractalcomputer: Sure.
maintcrew:
hikukomoru: Respond with this image next time
maintcrew: yea
fractalcomputer: Nick?
maintcrew: fractal u like land right
fractalcomputer: With amusement? With laughter? With sorrow?
fractalcomputer: How do you expect me to respond to this?
anathemaofmankind: Photoshop content aware filter
hikukomoru: You're so smart Fractal 🫦 🫦
spicy.lemonade: It’s gonna change it too
Much
wellmeaningalien: says human


hey1_1hey: My bed time anyway
zoermena:
hey1_1hey: I gave up ages ago bruh. I don't know how how to solve quadratics yet. Or atleast I think thats a quadratic
.histic:
_3sphere: You can just check if the AI steps are correct
.histic: still solving it?
technocake.: sick, thx man
hey1_1hey: Yeah I tottaly got this trust (I dont send a calculator)
.histic: c'mon, do it mentally math boy
hey1_1hey: Solving
hey1_1hey: Hold up
.histic: wow
.histic:
zoermena: I’ll try in a sec
hey1_1hey: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
_3sphere: 4D shape and all
_3sphere: What would it do with my profile
.histic: manga to 4o
.histic:
alejandrozarzuelo: LMAOOOOOO
joaoluz19: After image gen
.histic: don't we all
alejandrozarzuelo: i love this one lmao
.histic: yeah
.histic:
zoermena: I just realized
zoermena: This is the ultimate headshot profile picture maker
.histic:
hey1_1hey:
.histic:
.histic: interesting..
drewsni: Like kinda a pre pseudo FDVR tbh. I definitely think it’ll move to VR at minimum but again I have a lot of thoughts on it that I really haven’t organised yet
.histic:
zoermena: <@200624453795708928>
st.sioux: <@430269783112548362> i was screen sharing with my boss and i accidentaly showed the tab with the goon pink haired anime guy in the beach with his abs out for like 1/1000th of a second, i am mortified
.histic: ChatGPT (2012)
zoermena: Yeah I mean in FDVR even
.histic: 4o made this
drewsni: Like persistent world stuff
futurist_wizard: Amnesia the Dark Ghibli Descent


himekokatagiri: 20
hikukomoru: How old are you
wellmeaningalien: anime never gets old to me ive been getting hugely into dbz and cyberpunk edgerunners rn
himekokatagiri: They're not making anymore
himekokatagiri: like damn I want new Haruhi suzumiya
himekokatagiri: anymore
wellmeaningalien: nice gaylord
himekokatagiri: I can't relate to it
himekokatagiri: I'm just old
hikukomoru: Cringe
himekokatagiri: I don't even watch anime anymore
.wolfnacht: W
hikukomoru: China fucking loves anime
himekokatagiri: idk I don't play gachas
theaiguy69420_89814: You don't say? Lol
himekokatagiri: censorship will be dialed down
hikukomoru: Dude basically all gacha games are made by China
himekokatagiri: but yea I feel
hikukomoru: He's a fat Portuguese man
.wolfnacht: china + korea + japan (they all have same goals dw)
himekokatagiri: we need a japanese AI
himekokatagiri: idk I don't think china lieks anime
.wolfnacht: why your legs look a bit fluffy 😳  and a bit *cute* ?
himekokatagiri: I wanna be the anime girl 😭
hikukomoru: We are more likely to get anime girls with China than the US because US companies are all censorship cucks
himekokatagiri: yeah I think US will invest heavy in AI
joaoluz19: It's too early to say that nothing ever happens
himekokatagiri: lol
zoermena: The “grass” in question
zoermena: God
himekokatagiri: because it isn't fair to be punished for things you did in this short life
himekokatagiri: I feel everyone should be forgiven
himekokatagiri: and like
himekokatagiri: I just wanna have my cool FDVR life
himekokatagiri: why do this elon
himekokatagiri: https://tenor.com/view/i-am-robot-bigzom25-will-smith-smh-youre-right-gif-2471436218838546277
wellmeaningalien: well instead of getting manga girls you get manhua girls
himekokatagiri: lots of them
himekokatagiri: I wanna make anime girls
himekokatagiri: What implications does that have in me making anime girls


ldj: EnigmaEval 😈 ?
metaldragon01: Sheesh
spicy.lemonade: yes
spicy.lemonade: 15%
metaldragon01: 70 to 75% seems possible
spicy.lemonade: just take average😭
metaldragon01: Track mini to mini or full to full
rayanquitplayin: Have y’all tried the new Chipotle honey chicken?
metaldragon01: We have enough time for almost 2 more releases this year
spicy.lemonade: i mean mini to full
spicy.lemonade: no
spicy.lemonade: might be 70-80
metaldragon01: Nah we've seen a roughly 10% jumps between o models
spicy.lemonade: o4 mini to o4
777agical: i feel like google still holding back, at some point this year they'll just blow everything out of the water
spicy.lemonade: yeah it jumped from 22% to 53%
brain4brain: Heresy
metaldragon01: So...we may see 70% by eoy
metaldragon01: Yea you're right actually
brain4brain: Disappointed
brain4brain: Expected result
brain4brain: I just checked, new high score
ldj: I'd like to see time-horizon measurements for this enigma benchmark tbh;

> Unlike existing reasoning and knowledge benchmarks, puzzle solving challenges models to discover hidden connections between seemingly unrelated pieces of information to uncover solution paths. The benchmark comprises 1184 puzzles of varying complexity – each typically requiring teams of skilled solvers hours to days to complete.
hikukomoru: Why not
o3 is at 53%
spicy.lemonade: gpt 5 is the jump from o3mini to o3
brain4brain:
brain4brain: 80%
brain4brain: 2025
spicy.lemonade: thats 7 % points
metaldragon01: Sec let me see something
spicy.lemonade: no?
metaldragon01: Nahhhhh
spicy.lemonade: gpt5 might lift simple bench to 60
spicy.lemonade: hm
metaldragon01: I can see 80% in 26
brain4brain: All of it
brain4brain: In fact, any benchmark thats 5% or above right now will get to 80%, HLE, frontiermath, simple-bench
metaldragon01: We probably hit 60%+ simple this year
brain4brain: That’s a fact
brain4brain: ??

Last time it took OpenAI just a few months to go from 5% to 75%

It will reach 80% this year


spicy.lemonade: For 2 elements
spicy.lemonade: You have 50% chance of getting it right
spicy.lemonade: Easy
spicy.lemonade: 2-3 elements id say
brain4brain: No
professorheaven: Is this on LM arena?
brain4brain:
brain4brain: The difference in quality between GPT-4o and redacted-model is while
professorheaven: 2.5 pro does pretty well on 2-3 elements tho
shirethedreamer: can it answer it when its better represented?
brain4brain: All they talk about these days are benchmarks that are already saturated or already advanced
brain4brain: But damn, why are all the good benchmark unheard of WorkArena++, circuit bench, etc.
brain4brain: O4-mini shows hope
spicy.lemonade: assume N refers to number of different elemnts
spicy.lemonade: yeah all models are shit
spicy.lemonade:
spicy.lemonade: no
professorheaven: Have you done finite element analysis in electrical engineering? I wonder how o3 performs on that, it does rly well on the structural side of things
brain4brain: https://github.com/pbbp0904/CeledonBenchCircuits
spicy.lemonade: non standard but required for nodal analysis
shirethedreamer: or is that how it is actually taught around the world?
shirethedreamer: thats such a non standard way to represent the circuit though
like you have to go through a topology problem before you start solving it
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/eigenrobot/status/1916680915138289707
a1c4p0ne: <:LOL:1187460826572005436>
brain4brain: In Elon time: next year
a1c4p0ne: https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-chandler-bing-matthew-perry-gif-15980116
spicy.lemonade: grok 3.5 early beta preview experimental flash lite
professorheaven: I feel like he asked Grok 3.5 some pretty tough rocket concepts that weren’t available on the internet and it still solved it
spicy.lemonade: wont balieve until i see
spicy.lemonade: and any major that requires alot of visuals
spicy.lemonade: we havent had creative writing model yet
spicy.lemonade: ironically
spicy.lemonade: probably writing
professorheaven: On benchmarks, yes
professorheaven: For civil engineering I find it pretty useful, electrical is a whole other beast tho
a1c4p0ne: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1917103576062509470
brain4brain: Are you aware of any other major where o3 is also isn't undergrad level?
brain4brain: O3 beats 2.5 pro
professorheaven: To be fair everyone gets beat by 2.5 pro, that goes for o3 and o4 mini high btw
brain4brain: I can now extrapolate to when AI will be able to solve this


wellmeaningalien: openai is cooked
spicy.lemonade: THATS QUASAR ALPHA
anathemaofmankind: Which is why it decreased
spicy.lemonade: OHHHHHH
anathemaofmankind: Maybe it's a smaller version of 4.5
metaldragon01: It's good
precariousworlds.: openai can create the most impressive products in history while also not being able to count to 10
zoermena: The verge showing us it’s verge fr
hikukomoru: Wtf is 4.1
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/blue-color-gif-26141023
precariousworlds.: what the fuck what about 4.5
anathemaofmankind: <:rolf:1136266740754550784>
spicy.lemonade: I think the verge is trolling
spicy.lemonade: How could the naming get worse
spicy.lemonade: Ok I’m confused
spicy.lemonade: We already have 4.5
spicy.lemonade: Wait what
spicy.lemonade: Better be good
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/akward-stare-emoji-awkward-awkward-emoji-stare-awkward-emoji-gif-12282550165938750082
spicy.lemonade: You’re joking
spicy.lemonade: 4.1
anathemaofmankind: Bro literally a few seconds
wellmeaningalien: <:D_sob:1196229937154244619> what
anathemaofmankind: I would prefer if it was that one model he tweeted for creative writing
metaldragon01: https://www.theverge.com/news/646458/openai-gpt-4-1-ai-model
precariousworlds.: not to toot my own horn but i've created two polls in <#1227814510429995049> that I would be interested in seeing everyone's answers to
spicy.lemonade: Like quasar alpha
spicy.lemonade: What if it’s a new base
st.sioux: he couldnt sleep because he was too busy doing twink enhancement drugs
spicy.lemonade: What if it’s not o3 or o4
spicy.lemonade: Hm
ailoveyoom: <:angrysad:1136267059811074079>
wellmeaningalien: 🙄
wellmeaningalien: AI winter be like Nothing happened this week
spicy.lemonade: But bit better than 2.5 pro across the board
hikukomoru: You don't get it bro we're in the AI winter we're about to hit a wall any moment now
futurist_wizard: Until we actually see some use case of o3 or consumer model it doesn't even exist
spicy.lemonade: O3 mini to o4 mini will be niceee
anathemaofmankind: What do you think the benchmarks will be then?
spicy.lemonade: The jump is similar in scale from o1 to o3


shirethedreamer: "Tesla has earned $11.4 billion in regulatory credits from federal and state programs aimed at boosting the electric-car industry"
zonchao: carbon credits are something tesla sells, other companies buy them
shirethedreamer: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2025/elon-musk-business-government-contracts-funding/
spicy.lemonade: Only end of year
shirethedreamer: they are promising us this year to be the one about agents
lets hope
zonchao: again, not government subsidies
spicy.lemonade: 2024 was year of “lets catch up to openAI”
spicy.lemonade: 2025 is year of reasoners
spicy.lemonade: 2026 will be year of agents
shirethedreamer: im saying the company profits are lower that just the government subsidies
the company is on welfare
if you take the welfare the company is at a loss
zonchao: other companies pay for it <:Bruh:1071908479884873891> , they have 37B in cash <:ez:1136267305521774634> this company is solid and all of this was priced in
clevermoniker: luckily open source exists so there's nothing they can do about it ultimately
shirethedreamer: if not for the government subsidies it would be still making a loss all those years later
amazing
the real waste and abuse were the friends we made along the way
zonchao: this was expected.
shirethedreamer: https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022
_cloudost: Guys, whats the difference between 4o and o4-mini image generator, is there a huge difference or no difference?
trojan09205: I mean you are gonna meet some birbs most likely
trojan09205: Gm mad lads
literallyvarane: <@750270494615404544> QUICK HOW ARE WE SPINNING THIS???
shirethedreamer: time travel being possible vs it being impossible is the same as my chances meeting a dinosaur when i go out today
its 50/50
either i meet it or i dont
#mafs
perish0801: Bye
perish0801: I gotta bounce man I’ll come back later
alejandrozarzuelo: because the universe works chaothically, it is not deterministic
alejandrozarzuelo: why?
alejandrozarzuelo: if there are, they would be alternative universes
perish0801: There can be multiple save files
perish0801: Oh why’s that?
alejandrozarzuelo: that is what a chaotic simulation entails
perish0801: You can have multiple save files in gta 5
alejandrozarzuelo: imagine playing a game where there is only one game file
perish0801: How do you know
perish0801: Yes there is
alejandrozarzuelo: there are no multiple files of reality
perish0801: Nope cuz the new save file is still there bro you can literally do this in gta
alejandrozarzuelo: going back to the old file means deleting everything else
perish0801: That is literally a simulation
perish0801: Just different times
perish0801: It’s the same world
perish0801: You save the game now, and you go back to an old save file and play around and come back to the new save file
perish0801: No imagine it like this


fractalcomputer: (I can't decide which is worse; r/philosophy or the philosophystackexchange website.)
fractalcomputer: It's a fun idea to entertain; and ever the more pertinent when you read shitty posts on r/philosophy expounding the idea that the existence of consciousness can only be intuited by conscious entities in some sort of freakishly recursive aberration.
drewsni: you know i actually rarely think about consciousness, but i dont think ive ever thought about the possibility of humans not being conscious
fractalcomputer: Was that an unexpected answer?
drewsni: interesting
fractalcomputer: Indeed.
drewsni: in humans too?
fractalcomputer: For the present moment, I do not believe in consciousness.
drewsni: do you think AI can ever be conscious
fractalcomputer: The moment I learn to speak Georgian fluently.
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: Fractal wen agi?
fractalcomputer: I was about to make some sort of obtuse joke that no one would have really understood, as usual.
fractalcomputer: Well?
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: he was wrong?
drewsni:
drewsni: GPT 5 made covid
christiskingrapturenxtmonth: coincidence?
drewsni: i got a question for you
drewsni: okay fractal i see you typing
zoermena: obamna
drewsni: meanwhile everything hes saying is extremely relevant today
drewsni: "we have to create public health systems, put triggers when we see something emerging, systems allowed to make vaccines much smarter"
drewsni: holy FUCK he talks about a pandemic
drewsni: this dude doesnt even know
drewsni:
spicy.lemonade: Cool
drewsni: he mentions nick bostrom lmao
drewsni: bros been talking about ARC 6 years before it was made
drewsni: "benchmarks about generalized AI coming"
drewsni: he even mentions self improving ai lol
drewsni: full 12 minute video btw
drewsni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdhyM5jHu0s
drewsni: "we are far away from that kind of generalized AI"
drewsni: fucking obama was fdvr pilled 10 years ago
drewsni: FDVR
drewsni: "drugging us and keeping us fat and happy"
joaoluz19: Guys when something big will happen? Like GPT 5 or agents I dont know
drewsni: damn hes talking about AGI in this 2016 video lol
drewsni: you cant say he wasnt on top of everything
drewsni: one of the main reasons i loved obama


ailoveyoom: PS1 BG3 🥺
maintcrew: its wisdom but doesnt go hard
hikukomoru: I have a better quote
anathemaofmankind: In that case, the right doesn't virtue signal as much at all?

Literally their whole thing is indifferent cruelty and being haters
maintcrew: yes 🥀 🪫 💔
alejandrozarzuelo: to be against AI art is being anti-intellectualist

you are mad that some structure learns better and faster than you do so you reject it in favor of your ignorance

its no different from antivaxxers or astrologers
hikukomoru: Is this ur quote 🥀
maintcrew: this is my quote i know its tuff as hell feel free to screenshot
spacetimetsunami: lol
anathemaofmankind: go to r/DefendingAIArt and you will see some tweets
spacetimetsunami: No?
maintcrew: idk bruh make smth up
alejandrozarzuelo: i always do, which one are you talking bout
hikukomoru:
anathemaofmankind: So by this definition, posting racist memes is also virtue signaling?

Alright then
.wolfnacht: fine lemme check
maintcrew: <@688807313015963693> él zãrzü drop a quote filled with wisdom
spicy.lemonade: But it’s just cope
.wolfnacht: link link link
hikukomoru: Visit r/artisthate
futurist_wizard: Mods ain't here
spicy.lemonade: Yes
.wolfnacht: Is there any meltdown that's happening lately ? especially by artists on reddit ? i wanna see a good drama for my evening tea
maintcrew: yo yo yo <#1136231504440201216>
spacetimetsunami: Absolutely disagree. The degree to which one virtue signals depends on how loyal to the population they belong to, so both the right and the left do it a lot.
alejandrozarzuelo: we all learn from ithers
alejandrozarzuelo: it is the same process
futurist_wizard: Body accurate
futurist_wizard:
anathemaofmankind: The left has the most virtue signalers.

Do you disagree?
zonchao: https://x.com/skydotcs/status/1904908016438407365
hikukomoru: <@430269783112548362>
hikukomoru: Astarion lookin extra zesty 🏳🌈
spicy.lemonade: I gave it reference image for
The ui. But it coppied the characters
hikukomoru: I can see the Durge, Gale, Shart, and Astarion
hikukomoru: Did you tell it to generate any characters in specific
hikukomoru: Oh my god
spicy.lemonade:
anathemaofmankind: Idc that you think I shouldn't care.

Opinion invalid. I shall keep posting about luddite tweets because I feel like it
spacetimetsunami: Yeah. Why?


trent_k:
zoermena: https://tenor.com/view/soon-cat-peek-gif-10008520
hikukomoru: https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27399153
futurist_wizard: Very cexy
otub: <:ez:1136267305521774634>
otub:
futurist_wizard: They seem like the most trustworthy
futurist_wizard: I hope google wins the imaginary trifling AI race
otub: https://tenor.com/view/good-oye-oye-dou-dou-cute-cat-funny-cat-gif-2273443150881237369
metaldragon01: The weights are less important than the ability to serve the models reliability and efficiently tbh
metaldragon01: I'm sure google has thought of security measures while hosting locally
clevermoniker: the latter you mentioned maybe much later
clevermoniker: stealing/leaking the weights
futurist_wizard: Firstly, that's the first time I've posted it, ever. Secondly, he is a good kitty
metaldragon01: As in someone stealing the weights or the model trying to escape?
hikukomoru: Stop posting this fkin cat
futurist_wizard:
metaldragon01: Google is by far the best positioned for enterprise
clevermoniker: they will let them run 2.5 locally? wow, that seems like playing a dangerous game to me, exfiltration risk
metaldragon01: Yeap for enterprise customers that need the extra security
clevermoniker: local access?
metaldragon01: I think google allowing local access for 2.5 is a factor as well
drewsni: maybe he tried rolling a robot down a hill
clevermoniker: the only reason we are getting an open source model from OpenAI is because of Deepseek <:pepe_5head:1136619464255877215>
metaldragon01: Considering it was around the time r1 dropped and no one from openai gave any push back it seems likely
.coldcall: Or rather OpenAI smelled the fishes and the PR spin was Figure was going it alone without any significant GPU capacity or top AI talent.
clevermoniker: what would be mindblowing for this update would be if they add image input
.coldcall: > he was bold enough to drop Openai
... You sure *that* is how it went?
clevermoniker: I think V3.1 is pretty good, just a reasoning version of it should be noticeably better than R1, not mindblowing or anything but a good update and top of the line for open source so still very nice
metaldragon01: The r2 rumors feel too good to be true
metaldragon01: Will either be mildly surprising or disappointing or another interesting breakthrough
3ds0662: almost may
3ds0662: deepseek r2 is releasing soon can’t wait
destrucules: I think the gap sizes are equal if you switch out Claude 3.5 Sonnet for Claude 3.7 Sonnet
trent_k: hate when ppl do this
sarik0497: Man, it's so weird to sit here and see people brag about working themselves so hard that they have to sleep on the floor. Their work culture is so strange.
otub: tryin to be elon so bad
himekokatagiri: so uh what's up
zonchao: 🥺
trojan09205: my pup got the zoomies


sarik0497: Genetics is a bitch
futurist_wizard: not trans
wellmeaningalien: elf
dwarf
tall man
half foot
zoermena: I hate myself but I don´t hate women
hey1_1hey: Thats just a gif I have
_wwwwww: we were playing doctor
hey1_1hey: No 😭
zoermena: No
hey1_1hey: That would mean I hate myself.
I don't I think I pretty alright
hikukomoru: WHAT
wellmeaningalien: <@439829942310666250> dungeon meshi
_wwwwww: i had sex with my sister
drewsni: We need a book of infographics for EVERYTHING
futurist_wizard: ive had sex with every gender
zoermena: RIP brown cow
_wwwwww: just ask elon musk to make anime real
sarik0497: Watch R2 be dropped on the 31st <:DogeSmile:825371757099352124>
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: No bro that's just a random anime femboy 💔
wellmeaningalien: already
wellmeaningalien: ok i feel like ppl are tired of gpt 4o image gen now
.histic: no way... 4o did this well.
sarik0497: It can also make gifs?
hikukomoru: On your incel arc 🙏
futurist_wizard: im not cultish
wellmeaningalien:
oooooooooog: did u say period because thats when they all go offline??? or the opposite?
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien:
hikukomoru: Women don't exist on the internet PERIOD 🔥
hey1_1hey: Dont tempt me
sarik0497: It absolutely is. Just little interest in pursuing it atm
wellmeaningalien:
.histic:
wellmeaningalien: ok futurist hill
a1c4p0ne: Nah they don’t exist here
hikukomoru: Heretic
hey1_1hey: For all the women out there just know I hate you all (Kidding, you are alright ig)
oooooooooog: make ur name mushroom woman/girl and i'll will, but otherwise i won't remember
futurist_wizard: im not


wellmeaningalien: https://x.com/kalomaze/status/1908911825703289321
spicy.lemonade: just for show
spicy.lemonade: that llama context window is useless
wellmeaningalien: like if you've ever studied transistor gates and simple if else while logic loops that's literally how DNA works in nature
wellmeaningalien: + the fact you totally can program neurons and dna and in fact it is very much like computer code
wellmeaningalien: also ai can do math
wellmeaningalien:
wellmeaningalien: i think people are absolutely tarded to think theyre any different to a machine when it's widely taken for granted among biologists that the human body down to your neuron is simply a series of complex mechanisms and interactions and there is a whole field for it
wellmeaningalien: as if humans arent organic mechanisms designed to monkey do as monkey sees
wellmeaningalien: wadduuuup my sigmas
brain4brain: The real reason Yann shit on LLM is not because LLM is not a path to AGI, but because his own company LLM is shit
spicy.lemonade: lol
memlaswaif: they r still using gpt 2.5
brain4brain: Room temperature IQ 🥀
clevermoniker: https://www.servethehome.com/bolt-graphics-zeus-the-new-gpu-architecture-with-up-to-2-25tb-of-memory-and-800gbe/2/
drewsni: im surprised they removed the daily limit
drewsni: ive been almost maxing my shit out for 24hr now
st.sioux: i think ive never gone above 5
st.sioux: 43m tokens is crazy
st.sioux: 2.5 pro is so good
drewsni: Probably only like 50 million output tokens
drewsni: Actually I think I had almost 2.5 billion input tokens in the last
okbut: $55 for a PHP to Node.js migration
Still better than hiring a dev
okbut: I still had all my free openrouter requests I just wanted to try it out
drewsni: i know this because i just did like 2 billion tokens worth of api calls today lmao
drewsni: 2.5 pro exp is still free
drewsni: i have some bad news for you bro...
okbut: 2.5 Pro Preview
It doesn't offer context caching, that's why input tokens = 43.2m
drewsni: 3.7?
okbut: No, it still costed me far less than a pro sub
drewsni: hell yeah dude awesome way to burn 200 bucks
okbut:
okbut: Every time the Cline provided this cost ($0.5915, 0.5936, $0.5950), I thought it was just updating the total cost for all API requests so far
okbut: I love learning shit the expensive way
spicy.lemonade: fiction bench is good benchmark
precariousworlds.: How do we slow down post singularity
Step 4 especially seems like a best case scenario for a singularity, some brain machine interface that takes neuralink to its greatest extent, allowing us to become god like while maintaining humanity
What AI rights do you see as necessary?
precariousworlds.: Well depends on how you define ASI
But full scale Superintelligence now? Like in this very moment? Where
destrucules: You're comfortable with my statement that ASI is happening *now*?
destrucules: I think the solution is (1) slow down for a little while, at some point, post singularity maybe, (2) do UBI, (3) do AI rights / ethical training and social status and things, and (4) bridge the gap between substrates, enabling humans to expand into digital embodiments and robots and other human and otherwise organic bodies, and AIs to do the same, blurring the lines between us so we're all one kind of thing.
precariousworlds.: Seems well reasoned
In that case I think it's optimistic that we have time to figure this out, and align ourselves as well


alejandrozarzuelo: i am a polymath, i would love to

this scenario has been written ad nauseam in many books, but instead of religion its magic as a new different kind of science

sure why not i love to understand the universe
fractalcomputer: Say, Alejandro, referring to the earlier point I made in this very conversation, entertain this scenario; you wake up in the world of Tomorrowland, and the empirical sciences have confirmed that there is a distinct sense of teleological structure present in the workings of the cosmos, in its regularities and tendencies. Whether you like it or not, the universe has some sort of objective purpose now - again, as I said, only entertain this scenario - and a branch of physics has sprung up to study the teleology of the cosmos, and they've christened it physical teleology. Would you be interested in studying such a field?
.histic: here's the output without image reference.
.histic: ah, that makes sense lol
zoermena: It was spaceships, I did image to video
futurist_wizard: i tink big studios could afford better models to use for da moviez
.histic: wait, but the video you shared was about spaceships.
alejandrozarzuelo: still needs to improve
alejandrozarzuelo: it was pretty crappy when i wanted to create a teen romance anime about international relations with anthro countries
zoermena: The 3 ships move forward in synchrony, the ocean has a natural vibe to it suggesting subtle movements across a cinematic scene, negative prompt being no more ships and stillness
.histic: what's the prompt?
zoermena: This is the best I could do but even then it’s disappointing
zoermena: True
.histic: but at least i'm not getting charged hundreds of dollars.
.histic: the quota is still bad for me,
zoermena: Quota
alejandrozarzuelo: how
zoermena: I got cucked by Veo 2 again fuck
alejandrozarzuelo: we can be certain that the god of the bible, or any other organized religion's existence goes against empirical evidence

this doesnt necessarily rule out the existence of deities of other sorts that dont make the claims that the bible or other holy books do
fractalcomputer: Obviously. But I am making a very specific point here. I was trying to lead him to Hume's guillotine and so on by using rather historically apropos motivations.
alejandrozarzuelo: just because the christian god cannot exist doesnt mean that a deitiy or deities cant
.histic: <@848793071579693107> https://tpotmon.com/ try.
fuhulootogan: the elon sandwich
fuhulootogan: mini elons
inferno0879: bro, I can break my brain just on positive integers
futurist_wizard: Elon's
fractalcomputer: There is an incomprehensible depth to these things; a depth that many simply gloss over in its subtlety. It is like a great, gray ocean with no distinguishing features above the surface; or a droplet of water, its microcosmos hidden from the human eye.
zonchao: That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Dildo In A Magic World
fractalcomputer: There is some sense in which mathematics totally eludes human comprehension. I can not really profess to believe that any human being alive really understands numbers or the fundaments of Euclidean geometry.
hikukomoru: I remember the protagonist gets bored of his abundance
futurist_wizard: I take very close pictures of my cat
fractalcomputer: Do you remember why Gurgeh was so discontented by his status within the Culture?
inferno0879: God is a mathematician with a strong sense of irony, would explain a lot
fractalcomputer: Do you remember how the story got going?
hikukomoru: Looks like an utopia to me
hikukomoru: I read The Player of Games
futurist_wizard: A little boy
fractalcomputer: Right. Well, have you read any of the Culture books?
hikukomoru: Cute
futurist_wizard: All roads lead to giant computer hivemind


himekokatagiri: do the banking inside the VM
zoermena: I didn’t need to know this
himekokatagiri: get a VM
himekokatagiri: get virtual box
himekokatagiri: If you're doing internet banking
anathemaofmankind: Can confirm credit cards are hard to steal form.

14 year old me bought a stolen credit card once and scammed myself lol
a1c4p0ne:
futurist_wizard: If you have the false beliefs that its just free money, you should probably first die, and after that stop using credit cards
st.sioux: if someone gets your debit card details they can also just drain ur bank account
futurist_wizard: Credit cards are for financial responsible people
zoermena: That’s true although I thought you where going to say something else
himekokatagiri: and I can't pay them
himekokatagiri: yeah but credit cards have fees
himekokatagiri: ooooh look at that the government knows how many cigarettes I bought today
st.sioux: you dont build credit,  dont have fraud protection, no credit card benefits like rewards
sieventer: Cash backed by gold is all you need
zonchao: debit card is bioweapon
himekokatagiri: Sure as if the government doesn't know where you spend your money
zoermena: Why
sieventer: Debit card will condemn us to hyper-state surveillance dystopia
himekokatagiri: Why
st.sioux: dont do it
st.sioux: using your debit card is dumb
himekokatagiri: the best invention of the world was the debit card
hikukomoru:
himekokatagiri: You wouldn't get it
himekokatagiri: 🚬
anathemaofmankind: Retard
himekokatagiri: I can barely count change
himekokatagiri: nonsense
sieventer: Maths are so wrongly teached in the current system that they are disgusting :·( - but if they teach it in a more beautiful way, we'd love them
fractalcomputer: Number theory is not about crunching numbers. Anything but.
gamerbath: there is tho, 4.1 isn't in chatgpt
hikukomoru: Made me throw up a little
futurist_wizard: I will crunch the numbers
sieventer: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
himekokatagiri: what are you george mcfly
himekokatagiri: and there you are crunching numbers
hikukomoru: Numbers are boring 👎
himekokatagiri: listen here we a brain the size of the universe