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becoming a cesspool of violence, money, racism, and exploitation of both |
people and the environment (it's like that now though depending upon your |
viewpoint). It's a difficult question, because the root of the system is |
people-people with stubborn entrenched attitudes. How are we going to change |
the entire system if we can't change ourselves and others around us? Impose a |
law? That would be fascist. In my opinion, freedom of expression and action |
should be allowed so long as it's not causing harm or violence toward the |
innocent (or the not so innocent). The Libertarian party summed it up quite |
well..but a political party doesn't make a perfect system. |
To change the topic slightly, what do you feel about our actions (fraud, |
breaking and entering, etc) as far as morality (flexible and sometimes useless |
term) and justice? (That sounds corny but I don't know how else to word it). |
Doom |
54/100: We The People |
Name: Knight Lightning 2 |
Date: 8:15 pm Tue May 12, 1987 |
Yeah well, what I was trying to say is that with college in the fall and the |
quite often occurence of 950 blocking from college campuses, a new area to have |
to scan for Telenet dialups or whatever and in general, I fell that as a |
whole, the phreak community will suffer greatly. Lets face it, there will |
continue to be a phreak community, but as I see it, today's phreaks, |
specifically those on this system or Catch have reached the highest plateau in |
the area of knowledge ever in the history of our community. This is not to |
say that it will never be surpassed, but somehow with more and more security |
involving itself in our affairs and the decline of interest I feel that this |
is the golden age and it will start to fall back until a new era begins many |
years from now. |
The community will continue to exist no matter what, even if for no better |
reason than the rodent wares kids or the habitual code abusers. |
As far as morality, I don't feel too concerned about it although I do believe |
it to be wrong. I try not to think about it too much. However, when the |
government or Reagan can make deals with terrorist and lose millions of |
dollars or throw it away, I don't feel to guilty about making illegal calls. |
Its all in how you rationalize it. |
:Knight Lightning |
55/100: KL.... |
Name: The Disk Jockey 13 |
Date: 6:42 am Wed May 13, 1987 |
Gee....isn't speeding illigal too? Like you said, it's all relative, but can |
you remember making your first code call? It's like you hang up, and your |
waiting for the phone to ring with someone saying "Your busted......" I guess |
its all a form of de-sensitizing, after a while, you really ignore or don't |
realize the extent of the illigal-ness of the activity that you are doing. |
KL-I'm still working on that "Laws of preaking....." stuff that we talked |
about, while reading over old notes, etc, it can make you realize what you are |
"up against" if you are caught. Basically, your screwed if an adult. For the |
most part you are seeing about 30 days jail time, full restitution, and |
assorted court costs. Not a good time. I was wasted a few nights ago and |
debated calling up a LD company and telling them that I had hacked EVERY code |
they had, and would sell them the code file for $1000, else turn the file |
public. Wonder what they would do? I sure wouldn't want to be the one at the |
bank cashing the check, extorsion (sp?) is pretty big time stuff.... |
-The Disk Jockey |
56/100: General Nonsense. |
Name: Evil Jay 26 |
Date: 8:29 am Wed May 13, 1987 |
Face it folks. Were heading down the long road to communism. Our leaders |
are pretty much all corrupt. I think our country stinks. And I think in a |
few years the "kiddies" will feel the same. Face it, we talk about anti-drug |
bullshit, and all this anti-that and anti-this, but our leaders are setting |
a great example to the future leaders of our country, arent they? This country |
is headed anywhere but uphill, and I hope I die before it all falls to |
peices. Im old enough to vote, but chose not to and never will. I dont care |
about politics even though I should. Id rather not take a small part in the |
downfall of the good ole US of A. I dont follow politics, and I dont watch |
..(sorry, double cr) the news. Why? Because its all BAD thats why. Anyway, I |
hope to enjoy my life to the fullest without worrying about stupid shit, like |
Reagan and his scams. One thing that does piss me off is this big drug war. |
Its alot of nonsense if you ask me. The people that end up fucking up there |
lives are the people who have no sense and get burnt on heavy drugs (Coke, |
LSD...etc) and they end up either dead, dying, fucked up or trying to |
rebuild there lives. Needless to say, they forgot about having a good time. |
They got addicted. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Cmon folks, wake up...whats life |
about? Having a good time and living the fullest and richest (I sound like |
an ad for Folgers) life you possibly can Killing yourself isnt the |
answer. I know, Im rambling on. Oh well. About this phreak war thing, we |
all know its bullshit. Ifthe phreaks did unite (something pretty much |
impossible - will never happen), who do you think would win? The government |
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