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blasto_blastocyst
t2_8pp0x
You've never worked in a modern corporation then, let alone been in a position to hire anyone.
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ecwan5c
t3_aav9js
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwan5c/
1548280545
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t5_2fwo
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HeadAche2012
t2_873xv
Yeah, I had an interview with Microsoft and they wanted me to make a red black tree from memory on a whiteboard, I couldn't recall the rotate operation from memory and they seemed upset that I had an 1st gen iphone (2009ish) Most guys I talked to didn't look at my resume for more than 10 seconds and I was the "Friday i...
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0
1546203591
False
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ecwaogb
t3_aaxsey
null
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t1_ecvvvpy
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwaogb/
1548280560
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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DonnyTheWalrus
t2_hbe1n
Same. Our infrastructure team's average age is probably 45, and several of them have been there for > 20 years, because that's precisely where the highest level of experience is found. One of our developers is in her 40s and is fundamentally vital to our work. She's the first person any of us turn to for advice on b...
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0
1546203594
False
1
ecwaoky
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecvnifn
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwaoky/
1548280562
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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nikomo
t2_4tulx
If we hit total automation within 50 years, all it would do is drop the cost of labor to zero, completely destroy the flow of currency, and destroy society. Automated food production is useless if people have no way to buy said food. The fact that you are too blind to understand the fact that money must keep flowing f...
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0
1546203602
False
0
ecwaoy9
t3_aandti
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/r/programming/comments/aandti/older_workers_pushed_out_of_work_or_forced_into/ecwaoy9/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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justfordc
t2_6es0rtf
heh, typo of course. :) (I'm not an astronomer!)
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1546203669
False
0
ecwarzo
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecwacn8
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwarzo/
1548280604
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Kalium
t2_3jday
Some unions do work like guilds. A friend of mine is a surveyor and gets raises based entirely on how many hours he spends in classrooms and at job sites. Plenty of American unions care deeply about things like seniority and write benefits and promotions based around it into contracts - which to my mind is how guilds o...
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ecwat1c
t3_aandti
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/r/programming/comments/aandti/older_workers_pushed_out_of_work_or_forced_into/ecwat1c/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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nsiivola
t2_3hzwt
Classic!
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0
1546203741
False
0
ecwav82
t3_aanswd
null
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t3_aanswd
/r/programming/comments/aanswd/the_tao_of_programming/ecwav82/
1548280645
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t5_2fwo
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mr_ryh
t2_v60hk
> I'm one of those people who really loves writing documentation. Good to see someone else say this. I wonder if the lack of a standardized "canon" of good documentation is part of the reason people find it useless or annoying. I've always tried to emulate the style of Kernighan, Stevens, and Sussman/Abelson, beca...
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1546203795
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ecwaxm8
t3_aavv6v
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t1_ecw7x31
/r/programming/comments/aavv6v/the_art_of_writing_documentation/ecwaxm8/
1548280674
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t5_2fwo
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polytopey
t2_akus2
yeah, real engineers are better than people who are told how "genius and amazing" they are, no one knew that! /s
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1546203837
False
0
ecwazgn
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecvvvpy
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwazgn/
1548280697
-3
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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webtwopointno
t2_4fihh
oakland is still kinda cool thank the goddess. check again after these next round of towers rent out however. they are doing better than the city, their plan includes both preserving AND building. on one of the local subs someone distinguished it as LA is upfront about their superficiality, but mostly mellow. up here...
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1546203851
False
0
ecwb028
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecw16m5
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwb028/
1548280705
2
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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cyancynic
t2_20i37
I used to drive a really nice convertible that I never locked up. I just didn’t leave anything in it worth stealing. I still don’t lock my car. I also don’t have anything in it worth stealing. Lock are to protect valuables.
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0
1546203889
False
0
ecwb1tz
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecvy09c
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwb1tz/
1548280727
0
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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nsiivola
t2_3hzwt
This is not a programming manifesto or a howto. This is the tao of code. Tao is somewhat sarcastic when it comes to code, in case you didn't notice.
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0
1546203910
False
0
ecwb2qn
t3_aanswd
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t1_ecv6g39
/r/programming/comments/aanswd/the_tao_of_programming/ecwb2qn/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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campbellm
t2_3b632
But not from a stock list of questions, pre-ordained.
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1546203927
False
0
ecwb3i1
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecw5zun
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwb3i1/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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zqvt
t2_18uf4vq
>It does crazy things that no human would do. Having played chess competitively, Alpha Zero actually seems to play more human than traditional chess engines. Sacrificing pieces for strategic positions is actually a very human thing to do. Traditional engines would minmax according to heuristics and piece scores, be...
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1546203955
False
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ecwb4qu
t3_aaksym
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t1_ectk38v
/r/programming/comments/aaksym/how_the_artificial_intelligence_program_alphazero/ecwb4qu/
1548280763
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Crispyanity
t2_6fufa
I hire developers. Honestly communication skills are number one, even over your ability to program.
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1546203978
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ecwb5rp
t3_aaxsey
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t3_aaxsey
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwb5rp/
1548280802
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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PlymouthPolyHecknic
t2_4t5mpmn
Not sure if r/gatekeeping or r/iamverysmart
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1546204053
False
0
ecwb95f
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecw6w7s
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwb95f/
1548280844
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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richraid21
t2_pgck6
> a home assignment I would laugh at you if you told me to do this. Are you hiring junior engineers with no concept of self-worth?
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1546204090
False
0
ecwbat7
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecw4smz
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwbat7/
1548280864
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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BadGoyWithAGun
t2_l2l3h
And, again, as I've stated above, if that's what happens and society does collapse, I blame the people who fail to respect our fundamental liberties and property rights, and I'd absolutely rather die fighting them than be their slave. I agree that this is a possible outcome, but I disagree with the idea of more governm...
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1546204167
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ecwbe8k
t3_aandti
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t1_ecwaoy9
/r/programming/comments/aandti/older_workers_pushed_out_of_work_or_forced_into/ecwbe8k/
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bobtehpanda
t2_b55lj
If you read the article, they link to a source saying that [Google stopped this practice despite being notorious for it](https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/business/in-head-hunting-big-data-may-not-be-such-a-big-deal.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0). Brain teasers hire a very specific type of person - a person that can s...
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ecwbevm
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecwam9x
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwbevm/
1548280915
10
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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crossCounter23
t2_1mfl202p
Are you dumb?
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0
1546204233
False
0
ecwbh5d
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecw66yt
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbh5d/
1548280943
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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xiongchiamiov
t2_3fta2
In Silicon Valley and (barely) in my twenties, I also don't work more than 40 hours a week. There are plenty of shitty companies but also plenty of non-shitty ones, because there are just a hell of a lot of companies period.
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1546204271
False
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ecwbiyt
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecvmcpe
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbiyt/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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hotsauce285
t2_4h8bx
I'm in a pretty nice sweet spot myself. I technically work for a megacorp but my team is a start up they bought and just let us do our own thing.
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1546204285
False
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ecwbjn6
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecw8bxy
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbjn6/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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nonamebcb
t2_o56gu
/r/learnprogramming
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1546204312
False
0
ecwbkww
t3_aax9gi
null
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t3_aax9gi
/r/programming/comments/aax9gi/android_cab_booking_app_tutorial/ecwbkww/
1548280990
2
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
phpdevster
t2_f1b58
Same here.
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1546204342
False
0
ecwbmeb
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecvvvpy
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwbmeb/
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t5_2fwo
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dblake123
t2_ewy86
>int v,i,j,k,l,s,a[99]; > main() { >//Prints the N-Queens solution to the console for(scanf("%d",&s);*a-s;v=a[j*=v]-a[i],k=i<s,j+=(v=j<s&&(!k&&!!printf(2+"\n\n%c"-(!l<<!j)," #Q"[l^v?(l^j)&1:2])&&++l||a[i]<s&&v&&v-i+j&&v+i-j))&&!(l%...
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ecwbqoh
t3_aavv6v
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t3_aavv6v
/r/programming/comments/aavv6v/the_art_of_writing_documentation/ecwbqoh/
1548281061
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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sanderspedro
t2_z77q8
Thanks a lot! I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that OpenSIPS/Kamailio is daunting. My goal is to make Routr easy to deploy for the most common use cases. For the most part the project uses Javascript (Oracle Nashorn). The exception is the command-line interface or `rctl` which was developed with Java. Don't ...
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1546204459
False
0
ecwbs39
t3_a8xl5o
null
null
t1_ecw6eca
/r/programming/comments/a8xl5o/i_decided_to_build_my_own_sip_server_and_i_think/ecwbs39/
1548281078
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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sobels
t2_bdhcu
> Each machine word is assumed to hold at least log2(n) bits Given that we're doing asymptotic analysis, does this assumption really make sense? I realize that you half-address this in the latter half of your comment.
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1546204476
False
0
ecwbswp
t3_aavq8r
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t1_ecw64ku
/r/programming/comments/aavq8r/reversing_an_nbit_number_in_olog_n_time/ecwbswp/
1548281089
4
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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ECloud3
t2_dz1y4
You know what I'm not positive. It was one of the first sites I found. There might be a better solution out there for getting APK files.
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1546204507
False
0
ecwbufu
t3_aa3mws
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t1_ecubmlq
/r/programming/comments/aa3mws/extract_permissions_and_dependencies_from_an_apk/ecwbufu/
1548281108
1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
Viklove
t2_4eza6
By that logic old people write bad code too
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0
1546204526
False
0
ecwbvdc
t3_aav9js
null
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t1_ecw87ik
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbvdc/
1548281119
8
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
null
False
alufpikud
t2_1vqpahan
I have been in a successful start up where most of the developers were in their early 40' and work finished at 6. So they do exist, it is just that most people in this age don't want to risk their time on a startup but once they do they just do it in a more relaxed way. I have noticed that in certain fields the averag...
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1546204575
False
0
ecwbxr0
t3_aav9js
null
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t3_aav9js
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwbxr0/
1548281149
1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
null
False
philocto
t2_6jxjx
the quote "if you build it they will come" is bullshit, don't believe it. They won't come, which is why you need to learn marketing. If you can build a java jvm implementation you have the technical skills, work on the soft skills.
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0
1546204963
False
0
ecwcfxm
t3_aaxsey
null
null
t1_ecvzprn
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcfxm/
1548281402
54
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
fried_green_baloney
t2_41ql7
Any question that begins "Why are you . . ." will put the person being questioned on the defensive. I consider it quite offensive for the clear implication that there is something wrong with somebody for working.
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0
1546204984
False
0
ecwcgw6
t3_aav9js
null
null
t1_ecw4xvl
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwcgw6/
1548281413
3
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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philocto
t2_6jxjx
My favorite is when you start getting compilation errors and realize you're writing the wrong language.
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1546204997
False
0
ecwchgs
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecw5xb3
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwchgs/
1548281420
40
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
bobtehpanda
t2_b55lj
Google has actually disavowed this practice.
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0
1546205018
False
0
ecwciga
t3_aaxsey
null
null
t1_ecw5wa5
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwciga/
1548281432
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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dragonnyxx
t2_4oi9q
That's straight-up bullshit. If you know what a balanced binary tree *is* and can describe a situation in which it might be useful, that's good enough for any reasonable purpose. There's absolutely no reason you'd need to memorize the actual algorithm. If you run into a situation where a balanced binary tree is useful...
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1546205059
False
0
ecwckef
t3_aaxsey
null
null
t1_ecwaogb
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwckef/
1548281458
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Viklove
t2_4eza6
Those aren't all the options though -- Chicago is a pretty nice place to live.
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1546205068
False
0
ecwckti
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecvyut0
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwckti/
1548281462
2
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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muc26
t2_lgd0dum
Be a bit more confident in yourself my man, such questions won’t bother you!
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1546205104
False
0
ecwcmjs
t3_aav9js
null
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t1_ecwcgw6
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwcmjs/
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t5_2fwo
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Somepotato
t2_61zcz
It was just a personal project. I figured it'd be good as a reference to something I did. I'm working on a more real world project now though. Thanks for the advice all!
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1546205129
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ecwcnr2
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecw8zp0
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcnr2/
1548281500
3
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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null
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alufpikud
t2_1vqpahan
I just wonder, how interviews work for lawyers or doctors or other type of jobs? How do they assess the skills of the candidate? What about other fields which are more engineering like Architects or structure engineers? Are they being tested?
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0
1546205147
False
0
ecwcok8
t3_aaxsey
null
null
t3_aaxsey
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcok8/
1548281509
58
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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philocto
t2_6jxjx
it's different in software dev once you get a few years under your belt. I know how to write a loop and I know under what circumstances a foreach style loop is superior to a normal for loop, but that doesn't stop me from looking up the documentation of for loops in powershell because I don't use it that often and PS t...
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0
1546205185
False
0
ecwcqdh
t3_aaxsey
null
null
t1_ecw6w7s
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcqdh/
1548281532
4
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Game_Ender
t2_33b51
It’s just means you have the freedom to leave a crappy job, focus on those hobbies your presumably missed working 50-70 hours a week, chose to work part time, or work on something that doesn’t pay as well or is “risky” without worrying about money. Your also don’t have to worry about ageism as you get older, because y...
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1546205207
False
0
ecwcred
t3_aav9js
null
null
t1_ecw66yt
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwcred/
1548281544
1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
kuzux
t2_4v4qw
And the programming community seems to have come to the conclusion "yeah, you can but it doesn't mean that you should"
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0
1546205256
False
0
ecwctsk
t3_aanswd
null
null
t1_ecvlvsq
/r/programming/comments/aanswd/the_tao_of_programming/ecwctsk/
1548281574
1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
null
False
phillipcarter2
t2_gxfjqq4
Was gonna pipe in to say the same thing. It’s a good process and think it helps us, but the article is misleading. Devs are not hired through this process and it’s a DevDiv thing. Though I wouldn’t mind if other PM orgs adopted something like it :)
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0
1546205316
False
0
ecwcwp2
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecw6ori
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcwp2/
1548281612
65
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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philocto
t2_6jxjx
the rationale for it was stupid even then. The argument was to try and test if a candiate will just give up or take a stab at a task that seems to have no real answer. i remember reading this stuff and knowing for sure that I was one of the candidates that wouldn't even try for 2 reasons. 1. I don't give a shit how...
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1
1546205347
False
0
ecwcy73
t3_aaxsey
null
null
t1_ecvxzcf
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwcy73/
1548281630
-3
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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ObscureCulturalMeme
t2_gs28j
*raises hand* *looks at `time_t` again* ... *keeps looking at <time.h>, forgets about raised hand*
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1546205418
False
0
ecwd1m4
t3_aaxsey
null
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t1_ecw7pbi
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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dragonnyxx
t2_4oi9q
Google stopped the non-programming "how many ping pong balls can fit in a 747" type of brain teaser many years ago. They still very much do programming brain teasers, or at least "highly artificial problems which don't in any way reflect the challenges you will actually face in day-to-day programming". Sure, not all o...
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0
ecwd2z3
t3_aaxsey
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t1_ecwbevm
/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwd2z3/
1548281689
18
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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xFount
t2_t623t
So how can you find them? :P
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1546205488
False
0
ecwd52w
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecw5me9
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwd52w/
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3
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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DrGirlfriend
t2_37g8s
Really? Making less than $200K is failure now? You either have a severely warped view of reality, or you are an insufferable egomaniac making an attempt at a humblebrag that failed.
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1546205491
False
0
ecwd56v
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwd56v/
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6
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r/programming
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fried_green_baloney
t2_41ql7
My manager has asked me a hostile question. What will confidence do for me in that situation?
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1546205493
False
0
ecwd5a2
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecwcmjs
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwd5a2/
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1
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r/programming
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FrozenAsss
t2_2u5lrwd3
I don't even know anyone that works as much as 40h per week , that's some American bullshit. Also why would anyone work at a crappy workplace.
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1546205625
False
0
ecwdbrs
t3_aav9js
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t1_ecwcred
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdbrs/
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-1
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r/programming
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Game_Ender
t2_33b51
That is probably the rule for topping out at a FAANG tier company in a technical role. The thing is not that many people reach it (like 5-15% of a company), and it’s on the order of 10 years of experience and good performance. My range though was $240-480k which is a more reasonable total compensation band for a typi...
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1546205638
False
0
ecwdcft
t3_aav9js
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdcft/
1548281806
3
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r/programming
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Madshibentist
t2_gnvyc
Something I wonder if how often becoming insanely rich and retiring actually happens. I mean, yes, we all know (or at least have heard of) people who've done it, but you have to be lucky. Someone who joined Google early on made a fortune and is retired already? Brilliant. What about the poor soul that joined Alta Vista...
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1546205649
False
0
ecwdcyf
t3_aav9js
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t3_aav9js
/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdcyf/
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1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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jjseven
t2_3go2r
Your comment about EE being more forgiving is true; SRL a few years and the results are the same. There is always a corp. pressure to eliminate senior salaries not deemed useful and that value assessment is quite political. As such many EEs go into middle mgmt and higher to avoid getting dumped. I recall a study tha...
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1546205752
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0
ecwdhxw
t3_aav9js
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdhxw/
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3
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locotx
t2_4cdu0
I agree. If you define your life by your job title then you are at the mercy of those who give you that title. I work to live, not live to work.
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1546205759
False
0
ecwdiat
t3_aav9js
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdiat/
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1
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dblake123
t2_ewy86
I generally will tell people to steer away from startups. It's a risk. It's fine if you are in your twenties. You can fuck up and lose your job and still have time to make it up in your thirties. Job security starts to mean something when you have a family and have a house and things like that.
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ecwdisx
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdisx/
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ex_nihilo
t2_3i3r8
Lots of companies do it and it's not unreasonable. Some of the best places I've worked used a simple programming exercise as a way to weed out bogus resumes. Seriously, if you get 800 resumes, maybe 8 of them will actually know how to write code. I've always found them fun. I've never done a programming challenge for a...
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0
ecwdjre
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdjre/
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r/programming
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Xuval
t2_tc3ighv
But I thought everyone on the Internet was from America and everyone from America was from California?!
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ecwdl3z
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdl3z/
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v_krishna
t2_3mps3
Chicago is also 30 degrees colder than it is here in the east bay right now. And no mountains, no ocean, no Redwoods, etc. And certainly nowhere near as big of a specialized tech scene as SF & Seattle (and to a lesser extent, Boston, Austin, Denver, Research Triangle Area). Don't get me wrong, I like Chicago and...
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ecwdlxv
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nrg13
t2_1ck10
https is configured, and working correctly. However, the page will serve data over http. Do you mean that http > https by 301 or similar should be mandatory?
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ecwdmtl
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Somepotato
t2_61zcz
Oh it was just an example of a personal project. I'm not sure what to make to use as resume bloat but I have good hope my current project will be that. It's just my current location makes it nearly impossible to get work experience and anyone who offers relocation wants college experience.
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ecwdoa3
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdoa3/
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GTdspDude
t2_4rmzu
I worked for a few years in Xbox HW and they asked me those types of questions back in 2010 so it’s definitely not quite that old.
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ecwdpqs
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdpqs/
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cisco_frisco
t2_h1z1eio
>you gonna sit at home and watch tv all day? Maybe I want to retrain and learn how to restore antique furniture, purely because I want to focus on the pleasure of the craft and not the money? On the other hand, maybe I want buy a cheap vacation home in Europe or Asia somewhere and just spend the future traveling t...
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ecwdrgr
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdrgr/
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mbarkhau
t2_492c4
Assuming a good faith effort on the part of your fellow developers, then the issue might be that either the scripts are too complex or the documentation needs better structure. What is the absolute minimum the reader needs to know to accomplish a task. Then again, maybe your fellow developers are just too lazy or daft.
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ecwdsnz
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/r/programming/comments/aavv6v/the_art_of_writing_documentation/ecwdsnz/
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dead10ck
t2_8it2g
>>Also note that the top companies do not care as much about losing a good candidate as they do about hiring a bad one. Losing a good candidate costs far less than hiring and potentially firing a bad one. Therefore they optimize for reducing the false positives rather than reducing the false negatives. > >T...
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ecwdte6
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdte6/
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bro_can_u_even_carve
t2_mdeww
I'm not following. As a candidate, a reasonable home assignment is far less demanding and annoying than having to spend more hours in an in-person interview. I'd much rather write code on my own computer at a time of my own choosing than having to do it on a whiteboard while suited up and without sufficient caffeine.
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ecwdv8t
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdv8t/
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kkapelon
t2_lh09z
I got this in Google in 2012
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ecwdvvq
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwdvvq/
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EnvironmentalClock8
t2_2w341b2j
Man, this thread has everything, including armchair psychiatrists.
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ecwdwcb
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aesu
t2_6zc3t
That doesn't follow, though.
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ecwdwff
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locotx
t2_4cdu0
Nah, try working for an Indian company. You talk about leveraging your job, cutting salaries and nepotism. I do agree many American programmers are spoiled and have insane perk requests, but my company scheduled work to be completed by Christmas eve forcing us to work over the weekend, fully aware many had plans to v...
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ecwdxpo
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwdxpo/
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/r/programming/comments/aac4hg/modern_c_lamentations/ecwdy3d/
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IntenseIntentInTents
t2_963ar
Not especially, but I like looking back on things with excessive fondness.
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ecwdywu
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/r/programming/comments/aaqyit/github_jonatasbaldinawesomeawesomeawesome_awesome/ecwdywu/
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13steinj
t2_i487l
> Yes, easily, but we usually don't care about O(f(n)) where n is a number, we care about the length of the encoding of that number In most cases-- yes, but you'd be surprised what some people ask.
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ecwdzyj
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/r/programming/comments/aavq8r/reversing_an_nbit_number_in_olog_n_time/ecwdzyj/
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Madshibentist
t2_gnvyc
> I can't do any of those brain teasers Non-coding brain teasers I now consider a negative indicator for the company, as in I'll probably fail (because I don't practice them) and that's convenient because it saves me having to turn them down.
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ecwe0wy
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwe0wy/
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itzthespider
t2_2b1trhsa
Sounds logical
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ecwe8vy
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/r/programming/comments/aawwgf/using_logical_operators_for_logical_operations_is/ecwe8vy/
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/r/programming/comments/aac4hg/modern_c_lamentations/ecweaxn/
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DarkDuskBlade
t2_xe7ay
Well, things that come up often are naturally going to be memorized. But I wouldn't expect (and I went to Branches of Physics on wiki for these, I don't know how much overlap there might actually be) a physicist that specializes in Optics to have something memorized from, say, Relativity or Electromagnetism. The whole ...
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ecwebx7
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwebx7/
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tuckmuck203
t2_5816u
I'm the only young developer on my team, and we're in a very urban area on the east coast. Thing is, there's a lot of companies who just want reliable, stable software. Sure, I'm only making 80k (yes, I know objectively speaking that's a shit load, but as far as CS jobs go, it's okay). But I get 4 weeks vacation, sick ...
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ecwebyw
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remmiz
t2_4f78h
This right here. In my company, we rarely give coding tests except to individuals without much experience; even then they are fairly basic. We assume that if you've been able to hold a job as a developer for at least 3-4 years, you probably have the coding skills required. The most code we'll go over is usually just a ...
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ecweeof
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecweeof/
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satisfying_outcome
t2_26ak2d6s
Had a similar experience as a grad. As an interviewer now the question just seems masturbatory. I don't want to hire off ability to conclude off conjecture, I want to see an engineer's ability to rapidly build a strategy.
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ecwehrc
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwehrc/
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philocto
t2_6jxjx
Everyone thinks their process is sane, and yet... About 2 or 3 years ago I decided to start interviewing after years of freelancing and I was blown away by how bad companies are at finding good people. I maintain some software that works across multiple datacenters in several different countries and I've had to stop ...
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ecwejjy
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwejjy/
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erdouche
t2_udeye
MiCrOsEcOnDs
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ecweloi
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecweloi/
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tim0901
t2_gisub
The interviewer isn't looking for you to come up with the right answer, what they want to see is your thought process and how you approach the problem. You could give them the perfect answer, but if you do so after sitting in silence for 2 minutes they're not going to think particularly highly of you. They want to he...
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ecwerev
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwerev/
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hopfield
t2_15y1ak
Why not at the high tier companies? Aren’t you pretty much confirming what he said?
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ecwerue
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwerue/
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jormundgard
t2_56m4f
Google maps was a startup built by older programmers (>40), and later purchased by Google.
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ecwesjy
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwesjy/
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I_RAPE_BANDWIDTH
t2_h02vo
What’s a spark like solution?
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ecwetsc
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwetsc/
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dead10ck
t2_8it2g
I figured this was the case when they also said that Google does not do this style of interview any more, which is also very untrue. Source: just interviewed at Google a few months ago.
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False
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ecwev19
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwev19/
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MMPride
t2_2r7kfn4u
Yeah but his point is, companies shouldn't be gatekeeping industry-proven programmers with pointless, unrelated-to-work brain teasers.
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ecwev3j
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RockyK
t2_7dcje
I was asked brain-teasers two years ago at a freelancing interview. I didn't get the job. (Because I suck at brain-teasers.)
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False
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ecwexbw
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/r/programming/comments/aaxsey/microsoft_totally_changed_how_it_interviews/ecwexbw/
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nile1056
t2_elqsn
Yes, that's what that means.
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ecwexws
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwexws/
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pydry
t2_lhewq
Mid 30s and I'm starting to feel older than average these days in central London. I worked outside the M25 for a few months last year and I felt young again. I've definitely seen age discrimination in London startups. Hiring managers seem to feel weird about hiring people older than they are.
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ecwf3jw
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwf3jw/
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Calavar
t2_gm1q8
Yeah, I guess I should clarify. They weren't promising us that we'd be rolling in cash like some kind of investment banker - they were still offering less than the big name Silicon Valley companies. But the pay was functionally equivalent to Google/Facebook/Apple considering the lower cost of living. (Unless you are d...
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/r/programming/comments/aav9js/how_the_valley_treats_its_experienced_people/ecwf41k/
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IshikawaSama
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Well honestly I think also how the big4 make money makes the world worse for everyone, especially Google and Facebook
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ecwf6xc
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realnoobymcnoob
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I see, so only your subset should be used.
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ex_nihilo
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No disagreement.
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erdouche
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What? Haskell is great, and it's just as easy as Python but in a functional paradigm. Not sure what you mean by "neurotic".
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ecwfbxy
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ecwfcjl
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fmv_
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I got asked some last year at some startupy company in SF. I was not prepared at all.
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p0nce
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It was a very real but very old bug.
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Eirenarch
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But we're not talking about brainteasers. Brainteasers were a thing 2 decades ago. Even MS killed the practice before Google did. Brainteasers sucks and nobody uses them anymore. We're talking about algorithmic whiteboard stuff. The article claims MS is moving away from these too.
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