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Pi agent Verl
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ppo actually moving the needle on reasoning is wild. what's your reward signal looking like - are you using process supervision or outcome-based scoring on the autoresearch tasks, or something else entirely. curious if the gains hold up when you swap in different base models or if this is specific to how qwen's trained...
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Odd_Cauliflower_8004
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that's not the answer to the question i've made
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false
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Hot_Turnip_3309
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did you use pi-autoresearcher?
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false
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oscbzi8
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GanjaRaidersTR
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Damn finally, the last days I was searching intensely for PPO trained modell but the only one was llama from meta, the latest are GRPO trained,(good too but i atikl want to test PPo, i think fable from mythos was using PPo too..
1
false
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osd68j1
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1u88ywc
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CalligrapherFar7833
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Multiple people asked you whats the gain from what you did and you cant explain it thus its worthless
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false
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osd7gjc
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Mysterious_Hearing14
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It's good agentic model, that generate good ideas and write a good code to autoresearch, better then nex and bunch of "fAbLe OpUs UnCeNsOrEd "distills with broken reasoning and agentic capabilities. Try space and compare with regular qwen, idn what to propose you. I don't want to make a fake pr with "opus vibes in 35b ...
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true
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ositvq3
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TomLucidor
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Could you (a) train this under 4-bit Qwen-3.6 with KV also being quant (b) apply distillation to BitNet/ternary models (c) suck up procedure knowledge from larger models like Kimi/MiniMax/GLM to complement the usual Claude/Gemini/GPT data (d) see if there are "out-of-distribution" or live benchmark gains (e) reduce ove...
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false
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osiu0j3
LocalLLaMA
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TomLucidor
1,781,846,818
Do your damn homework first, please. Karpathy is a celeb
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false
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osiu6sf
LocalLLaMA
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TomLucidor
1,781,846,899
What about Gemma-4 (31B and 28B-A4B)? And maybe later on Gemma-4-E4B and Qwen-3.6-9B for how smaller models might 80/20 relative to the bigger ones?
1
false
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osium20
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os880vh
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TomLucidor
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Seconding this vs Gemma-4 finetuning. Also maybe PPO can be optimized like how RLVR made a splash in the whole post-training thing. But also could this show that self-improving AI could be a "thing"?
1
false
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osiwkr2
LocalLLaMA
1u88ywc
os95rjc
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TomLucidor
1,781,848,011
"parameter golf" as itself bro
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batch-priority-2026-summer
osjf4ev
LocalLLaMA
1u88ywc
os6bjpz
2
Odd_Cauliflower_8004
1,781,857,122
Does it have an actual application or is it just to win benchmarks?
1
false
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os6bbvg
LocalLLaMA
1u89dnx
1u89dnx
0
AutoModerator
1,781,700,828
Hello! Your post was removed as you do not have sufficient karma on r/LocalLLaMa. We are doing this in response to the large volume of spam we are unfortunately experiencing. Please participate in the sub (through comments), gain the minimum of 5 karma and then re-post *I am a bot, and this action was performed automa...
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os6my5v
LocalLLaMA
1u8asil
1u8asil
0
AutoModerator
1,781,704,305
Hello! Your post was removed as you do not have sufficient karma on r/LocalLLaMa. We are doing this in response to the large volume of spam we are unfortunately experiencing. Please participate in the sub (through comments), gain the minimum of 5 karma and then re-post *I am a bot, and this action was performed automa...
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false
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1,789,194,787
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os6sv6z
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
1u8bblv
0
WhiskyAKM
1,781,705,978
I'm too making my own AI harness that is written in rust ([tinyharness ](https://github.com/PTFOPlayer/TinyHarness)) How did you solve plugins? I want to make them in future but without actually implementing some kind of intermediate format it seems kinda impossible. I was toying around with FFI and in runtime dynami...
0
false
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1,789,194,789
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os6vx25
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os6sv6z
1
yogthos
1,781,706,824
I used [Janet](https://janet-lang.org/) which is a Lisp you can embed in Rust with around 1 meg footprint. It works pretty seamlessly.
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true
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os6w34d
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os6vx25
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WhiskyAKM
1,781,706,870
First time I heard about it I'll try it out thx
2
false
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os6xhy7
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
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yogthos
1,781,707,261
I have some examples of what plugins end up looking like with it here https://github.com/dirge-code/dirge/tree/main/plugins
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true
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os6zzmx
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
1u8bblv
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HVACcontrolsGuru
1,781,707,942
Pretty neat! I was looking at the same thing with Rust and Ratatui but I have to many projects floating around to build a coding harness out like this! I have a rust memory service that can be embedded or ran as an MCP if you want to check it out lemme know and I'll drop a link!
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false
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os70qo9
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os6zzmx
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yogthos
1,781,708,146
oh yeah definitely, would be good to see how you approached it to see if I'm doing anything stupid :)
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true
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os78grm
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
1u8bblv
0
Thin_Pollution8843
1,781,710,224
Hi have you wrote that article yourself? Or used some AI
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false
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os7b1lv
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
1u8bblv
0
darknecross
1,781,710,903
Good write up. Some comments from reading through it, just thoughts not necessarily feedback: \- I think replacing the Lisp plugin system with something like Lua would drive more engagement with users. Not that there’s anything wrong with Lisp, it’s just that so many people have stronger Python/JavaScript backgrounds ...
8
false
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os7d7e9
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
1u8bblv
0
No_Hedgehog_7563
1,781,711,469
Interesting project, do you plan to support github copilot as provider?
2
false
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1,789,194,789
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os7h759
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os7d7e9
1
yogthos
1,781,712,510
I'm open to a PR for it if it's useful. :)
2
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/os7h759/
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os7p6gp
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os7b1lv
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yogthos
1,781,714,585
Thanks! I guess being a Lisper, I kind of have a soft spot for Lisp dialects. Hence why I landed on Janet. Although, it's easy enough to get the agent to write plugins nowadays, so probably not that much of a barrier in practice. And yeah, there's very little value in having nested structures in tool call schemas sin...
2
true
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1,789,194,789
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os81x52
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os78grm
1
yogthos
1,781,717,887
Hi I did write the article myself, and you can check using https://app.gptzero.me if you want. Could you explain why you're asking me that?
1
true
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os9l6bg
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os81x52
2
Thin_Pollution8843
1,781,732,357
Because I was reading it and feeling like it very well written without any slop in it. So I was wondering maybe you can share the name of AI you used 😅
0
false
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1,789,194,789
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os9pm0b
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os9l6bg
3
yogthos
1,781,733,628
Actual intelligence inside my head, something you quite evidently lack.
5
true
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1,789,194,789
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osaj9uh
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
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PossessionUsed7393
1,781,743,290
Thank you for your contribution to this evolving space. I was really interested to read the part about how you handled your edit tool since it seems to be the key failure point for models, and if you fall back to standard oldText newText approaches you of course spend way more on output tokens than you should. I use a...
3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osaj9uh/
1,789,194,789
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osaprym
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osaj9uh
1
yogthos
1,781,745,560
Oh another tool I made recently might actually be of interest. I realized that you can apply wavelet analysis to text, and it's great for identifying features that appear at different resolutions in text while being largely content agnostic. I haven't tried applying this to prose analysis, but in theory it should work....
1
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osaprym/
1,789,194,789
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osaz2mr
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osaprym
2
PossessionUsed7393
1,781,748,862
Yes, the wavelet analysis is interesting, but not for prose pipelines. I have another project I'm working on where it might be useful that involves analyzing massive corpuses of text where it theoretically could help so I'm glad you raised it. Best of luck and you're welcome.
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osaz2mr/
1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osba65v
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
1u8bblv
0
genpfault
1,781,752,987
Maybe add a screenshot or two of the TUI?
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osba65v/
1,789,194,789
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osbesnh
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osba65v
1
yogthos
1,781,754,852
oh haha I suppose wouldn't hurt, I do have one on the site in the first link
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true
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1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osc178f
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os9pm0b
4
lost_send_berries
1,781,765,099
Please share a download link
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osc178f/
1,789,194,789
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oscr9n9
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osaz2mr
3
Silver-Champion-4846
1,781,778,341
Can wavelets be used to represent audio for something like stt and tts?
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/oscr9n9/
1,789,194,789
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oscrgy3
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os9pm0b
4
Silver-Champion-4846
1,781,778,438
Intelligence.so
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false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/oscrgy3/
1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osctu7s
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os7p6gp
2
use_your_imagination
1,781,779,505
As a pi user that was looking for a customizable equivalent with smaller footprint I will definitely be trying out Dirge. I second the comment on the embedded Janet, Lua would have been a much friendlier scripting language (that's why neovim became so popular over vim). I don't mind learning some functional programmi...
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osctu7s/
1,789,194,789
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oscuz4v
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osc178f
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datbackup
1,781,779,998
looool
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false
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osd9pb4
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osctu7s
3
yogthos
1,781,785,562
Thanks, and yeah if people feel strongly about Lua, maybe it could be a compiler flag going forward to select which plugin runtime to hook in. It shouldn't be difficult to support both. So, if you do get a fork working with it, a PR would be very welcome. :)
2
true
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1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osda0k9
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
oscr9n9
4
yogthos
1,781,785,667
They work for any signal analysis. If you have data with different types of features in it that appear across different scales, you can run it through a wavelet and see what the features are. I explained how the algorithm actually works here. https://yogthos.net/posts/2026-06-02-wavescope.html
1
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osda0k9/
1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osg1a8p
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osda0k9
5
Silver-Champion-4846
1,781,812,595
The question is whether they are better than mel spectrograms, or if 20 wavelet features are actually better than 20 equivalent MFCC or MGC features
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osg1a8p/
1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osg5l34
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osg1a8p
6
yogthos
1,781,813,756
From my understanding neither is universally superior. While Mel spectrograms are well‑tunen for most speech and audio tasks, wavelets shine in small data or transient focused settings. Specifically for speech to text though, MFCCs are likely a better choice.
1
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osg5l34/
1,789,194,789
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oshqznu
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
1u8bblv
0
MoodyPurples
1,781,831,744
This looks super cool! I might switch over from Pi to drop the js requirement
3
false
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1,789,194,789
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osi83mb
LocalLLaMA
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yogthos
1,781,837,812
Thanks, and feel free to open issues if you find bugs or missing features you want.
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true
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1,789,194,789
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osjy36l
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
os7b1lv
1
o0genesis0o
1,781,866,450
Aggressive pruning would break prompt caching though. I tried this with my own harness (essentially, tool results do not fully reach the context. Instead, they reaches a temp data structure injected into context, and would eventually "fade" away after a certain number of turns). I can see in my cloud console when Pi is...
2
false
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1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osl01fd
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osbesnh
2
genpfault
1,781,879,298
Yep, you're right, I was just link-blind, for whatever reason my brain was assuming the [project splashpage](https://dirge-code.github.io/) link (w/screenshot) at the top of the blog was the same as the [repo link](https://github.com/dirge-code/dirge) at the bottom :(
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false
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1,789,194,789
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osm9xj1
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osjy36l
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darknecross
1,781,891,868
Interesting. Are you rewriting the context or just updating the last N pages? I’m thinking more like a branch/squash/rebase flow that only forks off at the tool calling step. But I’m sure they’d need better support in the actual low level cache management layer rather than just the prompt surface
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false
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1,789,194,789
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osma11j
LocalLLaMA
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osd9pb4
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use_your_imagination
1,781,891,895
It would my pleasure. If I start seriously using it you can count on me making PRs instead of just raising issues :) So far I just managed to compile and need to setup the provider/models to use my llama-swap/llama.cpp local api
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osma11j/
1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osmv8iq
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osl01fd
3
yogthos
1,781,897,807
ah no worries
2
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osmv8iq/
1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osmvcyt
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osma11j
5
yogthos
1,781,897,843
cool, and yeah hopefully it'll come in handy
1
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osmvcyt/
1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
osou6np
LocalLLaMA
1u8bblv
osm9xj1
3
o0genesis0o
1,781,920,586
I kept all message the same, never modify history. It's just that instead of returning the full content in tool result, the harness would say "successful, result pinned in the clipboard", which is then injected to the agent at the right place every turn (usually before user message, or within tool response). So history...
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8bblv/making_budget_models_punch_above_their_weight/osou6np/
1,789,194,789
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7097g
LocalLLaMA
1u8c42d
1u8c42d
0
jacek2023
1,781,708,015
I think the price of an AMD MI355X is higher than the price of most people’s apartments/houses here.
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8c42d/occupancy_math_on_the_amd_mi355x_a/os7097g/
1,789,194,787
batch-priority-2026-summer
os76eaa
LocalLLaMA
1u8d6fg
1u8d6fg
0
AutoModerator
1,781,709,677
Hello! Your post was removed as you do not have sufficient karma on r/LocalLLaMa. We are doing this in response to the large volume of spam we are unfortunately experiencing. Please participate in the sub (through comments), gain the minimum of 5 karma and then re-post *I am a bot, and this action was performed automa...
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8d6fg/ai_hallucinations/os76eaa/
1,789,194,797
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7ar9w
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
1u8djqr
0
jacek2023
1,781,710,827
works for me in version: 9656 (581e8eca8)
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/os7ar9w/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7ats0
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
1u8djqr
0
nickm_27
1,781,710,846
Just happens when it failed to pull the HF cache WebUI build, can happen, I have my build just run the web build alongside the main build in GitHub actions so it is always correctly included (and immediately up to date)
6
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/os7ats0/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7b7jc
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
1u8djqr
0
j0hnp0s
1,781,710,946
Make sure you have npm installed to build the web parts. From what I know the downloadable parts are not available for some time now. Last time I noticed, I was getting error 404 not found from the server
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/os7b7jc/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7cgul
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
os7ar9w
1
misanthrophiccunt
1,781,711,275
I'll use that version until it's fixed then. I mean it is their official docker image. Aren't any checks in CI/CD to ensure it is there? Because the API works so any /health checks do work, but the WebUI is nowhere to be found. I normally change models using pi-llama-router so it's not as if the world is ending. But w...
2
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/os7cgul/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7cxzl
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
os7cgul
2
jacek2023
1,781,711,399
Assuming it’s not a problem with your setup, you should get responses in your issue
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/os7cxzl/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7dts5
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
os7cxzl
3
misanthrophiccunt
1,781,711,631
strange, your version doesn't show in their docker tags [https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pkgs/container/llama.cpp/versions?filters%5Bversion\_type%5D=tagged&page=2](https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pkgs/container/llama.cpp/versions?filters%5Bversion_type%5D=tagged&page=2) EDIT: got b9664 and that works fine
2
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/os7dts5/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7nx72
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
os7dts5
4
jacek2023
1,781,714,261
I compile llama.cpp myself
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/os7nx72/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
oshraui
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
1u8djqr
0
MoodyPurples
1,781,831,854
Yeah I definitely noticed this recently and had to switch to pinning an older image
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/oshraui/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
osi19rf
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
oshraui
1
misanthrophiccunt
1,781,835,342
I pinned it to b9664 and also tried out of curiosity vllm, I'm a bit wowed and with a bit I mean, woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. Clearer docs, I actually understand every configurable flag, takes an awful time to load but once it does it couldn't be more robust it is night and day. Isn't it amazing...
2
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/osi19rf/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
ot2su9j
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
os7cgul
2
ali0une
1,782,107,961
Hi there. What is this pi-llama-router? a pi extension? Could you share a link please, i think i could be very interested in this! Edit: ok could have searched first, seems to be https://pi.dev/packages/pi-llama-server
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/ot2su9j/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
ot3ar63
LocalLLaMA
1u8djqr
ot2su9j
3
misanthrophiccunt
1,782,117,169
I had no clue it was possible until one day I read in full the --help of llama-server and after the stroke and 60 days recovery I realised there was a way to load models passing a preset.ini with their filenames and config inside. Ever since, that's how I use it. If I want to load them I either check in the UI or in ...
2
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8djqr/is_anyone_else_not_finding_the_web_ui_on_latest/ot3ar63/
1,789,194,769
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7s66p
LocalLLaMA
1u8egce
1u8egce
0
langsfang
1,781,715,349
Why to fine-tune here? Check out kvpress (https://github.com/NVIDIA/kvpress) for various KV cache compression algorithms. Alternatively, you can just prompt the model to generate rolling context summaries to compact things down
0
null
null
1,789,195,727
batch-priority-2026-summer
otcclgl
LocalLLaMA
1u8egce
1u8egce
0
Esph1001
1,782,228,639
Haven't seen a purpose-built dataset for this specifically, but the approach you're describing is sound. The layered data pipeline matters more than the framework — domain knowledge first, then application context, then distilled frontier model output as training examples. That three-step process is what actually chang...
1
null
null
1,789,195,727
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7j70t
LocalLLaMA
1u8enb2
1u8enb2
0
Finanzamt_Endgegner
1,781,713,035
Its not tongyi lab, its community i think, was just featured by them (:
9
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8enb2/comment/os7j70t/
1,789,195,728
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7zx4j
LocalLLaMA
1u8enb2
1u8enb2
0
Fedor_Doc
1,781,717,370
Wait a minute Link is for the instruct-only tuned version, not reasoning model The single benchmark result for the tuned reasoning model shows reduction in capabilities – https://huggingface.co/bytkim/Qwen3.6-27B-MTP-pi-reasoning-GGUF#terminal-bench-20-pi-snapshot
7
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8enb2/comment/os7zx4j/
1,789,195,728
batch-priority-2026-summer
os84mw8
LocalLLaMA
1u8enb2
1u8enb2
0
soyalemujica
1,781,718,578
What's this different from Qwen base?
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8enb2/comment/os84mw8/
1,789,195,728
batch-priority-2026-summer
os8bh8d
LocalLLaMA
1u8enb2
1u8enb2
0
ttkciar
1,781,720,295
Reflaired "New Model" and ignoring Low-Effort report. Traditionally the bar for new model announcents is very low.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8enb2/comment/os8bh8d/
1,789,195,728
batch-priority-2026-summer
os9b1gn
LocalLLaMA
1u8enb2
1u8enb2
0
fdrch
1,781,729,590
Is it good?
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8enb2/comment/os9b1gn/
1,789,195,773
batch-priority-2026-summer
os9irq7
LocalLLaMA
1u8enb2
os9b1gn
1
Fedor_Doc
1,781,731,680
Even the author does not know that, according to the huggingface post It should be more accustomed to specific pi workflow, but it is worse in terminal bench compared to original model
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8enb2/comment/os9irq7/
1,789,195,728
batch-priority-2026-summer
osbwunt
LocalLLaMA
1u8enb2
1u8enb2
0
Confident_Ideal_5385
1,781,762,977
Omg qwen 27b with no CoT? Where do I insert all the money?
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8enb2/comment/osbwunt/
1,789,195,728
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7jlr3
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
SensitiveVariety
1,781,713,144
Have you tried messing with batch/ubatch size? I found that mine is best at 2048 for both
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7jlr3/
1,789,195,765
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7k5ol
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
llama-impersonator
1,781,713,288
that's a reasonable speed for those two gpus without mtp or dflash edit: --ctx-checkpoints 64 is a lot for gemma
3
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7k5ol/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7kvd3
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
kosnarf
1,781,713,472
Turn off fit and add ngl (check the docs). Let us know how it works
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7kvd3/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7kyh7
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
Adventurous-Paper566
1,781,713,494
It's not your PCIe 4.0 x4 (no impact on tg speed). Try without quantified KV cache and remove the --kv-unified line (since you set parallel to 1), just to see the speed, your 16k context length should fit into your 32GB of VRAM, or lower it to 8192 just for the test if it doesn't fit. (I'm running bartowski's Q6_K_L ...
4
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7kyh7/
1,789,195,736
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7l2wk
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
kiwibonga
1,781,713,526
KV unified is your likely issue, it'll use RAM. Those are not full offload numbers, you should get over 2k PP even with pcie4.0 4x
4
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7l2wk/
1,789,195,753
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7q119
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
os7jlr3
1
LongDistanceRope
1,781,714,802
I've messed around with it, but default seems to be best. lowering (1024 / 512) didn't do anything, higher settings (4096 / 2048) got slower.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7q119/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7ry9z
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
LongDistanceRope
1,781,715,294
added: --fit off --gpu-layers 99 removed: --kv-unified --cache-type-k q8_0 --cache-type-v q8_0 I've also checked llama cpp log to make sure its not offlading anything to ram, but no difference in speed. prompt process went down to 550 t/s , output is 26 t/s, but at least its stays consistent and doesn't loose 1 t...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7ry9z/
1,789,195,774
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7tzd7
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
Some-Ice-4455
1,781,715,813
26 t/s does seem low for that hardware, but I would suspect the PCIe / multi-GPU split before assuming bad llama.cpp flags. A 4080 sitting on PCIe 4.0 x4 can become a real bottleneck if the model is split across GPUs. Multi-GPU is not automatically faster; sometimes the transfer and sync overhead makes it slower than r...
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7tzd7/
1,789,195,782
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7u4m3
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
os7l2wk
1
LongDistanceRope
1,781,715,851
I've removed it, along with quantified KV. The only difference it made, is stopped the gradual slow down as context window fills. which is kind of an improvement but no speed difference.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7u4m3/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7uysz
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
os7kyh7
1
LongDistanceRope
1,781,716,073
16k un quantified KV cache does fit into 32gb vram, thats nice. however none of the advice in the thread so far made any difference.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7uysz/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7vep3
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
os7ry9z
1
kosnarf
1,781,716,190
Consider removing predict
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os7vep3/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os85w6w
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
Legitimate-Dog5690
1,781,718,886
The pcie speeds don't make much difference, in fact if they're not bothered about gaming performance I'd just suggest whichever card runs the coolest on the top, as it'll heat up a lot more. I'd normally suggest "--spec-type ngram-mod" for a model like this, or stack it up with mtp if you're using a version with mtp ...
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os85w6w/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os88yj6
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
os7tzd7
1
LongDistanceRope
1,781,719,651
okay, I've run some test on gemma 4 12b q8 16k context. cause its 13gb and fits in each card: GPU TG (t/s) PP (t/s) 4080 43.69 1010.12 5080 56.70 1180.11 50/50 Split (6.5GB / 6.5GB) 48.70 1123.10 that, doesn't seems to be bottleneck at all. same flags as edited version in above post. however, ...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os88yj6/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os8db9v
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
os7tzd7
1
see_spot_ruminate
1,781,720,767
pcie x4 lanes is not a "bottleneck" that a lot of people think. Even on my quad 5060ti setup one of the cards is on at x1 and I get faster speed than this.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os8db9v/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os8fn37
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
see_spot_ruminate
1,781,721,365
As one of the other posters (who was downvoted) said, that is likely a good baseline t/s generation give your card and the model you picked. lets go over why that is. Vram - I am assuming that this model for you fits entirely on vram at the provided amount of context. If it doesn't that is likely the largest bottlene...
3
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os8fn37/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os8hpw2
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
see_spot_ruminate
1,781,721,900
I can't believe you are getting downvoted for speaking the truth... people on this subreddit, ugh Have an upvote
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os8hpw2/
1,789,195,796
batch-priority-2026-summer
os8kz9e
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
os8fn37
1
LongDistanceRope
1,781,722,743
yeah, I've (ironically) asked gemma to do the math, and even if the 4080 would have 32gb vram, its bandwidth would only allow 28 t/s. For whatever reason I was under the impression as long as a model fits into vram it will run as fast as any. Based on a observation that 7b model run about as fast as 12b on the 4080. Tu...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os8kz9e/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os8p8ij
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
see_spot_ruminate
1,781,723,831
So llamacpp has to go through all the active parameters each time a token is generated. For dense models, that is the whole thing. For moe, only the small amount of active. I forgot one thing to add in my rant. You should try, if it all fits on vram, split-mode tensor. It can also increase generation.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os8p8ij/
1,789,195,748
batch-priority-2026-summer
os8yeow
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
WishboneSudden2706
1,781,726,246
Try llama-bench for parameter sweeping
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/os8yeow/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
oscgdmp
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
LongDistanceRope
1,781,772,896
I've tried row: 12 t/s and tensor: 6 t/s. I think its pcie limitations this time. Also tensor produced insane coil whine. Not even sdxl / flux managed to do that.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/oscgdmp/
1,789,195,803
batch-priority-2026-summer
oscmmzs
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
oscgdmp
1
see_spot_ruminate
1,781,776,118
I don't think so. I have one of my 5060ti's on gen4 x1 lanes and I can get up to 60t/s during coding tasks with a larger model than you are attempting to run. I think that if you have accounted for all other things try linux?? There may be something wrong with your drivers?? I am not sure. I will include what I do on...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/oscmmzs/
1,789,195,743
batch-priority-2026-summer
oscnof4
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
Herr_Drosselmeyer
1,781,776,630
Output sounds about right to me. I'm running it on two 5090s at Q8 and 128k context and I get about 40 t/s. Seeing how your 4080 is your bottleneck, that kinda lines up with the expected difference between a 4080 and 5090. What doesn't line up is the prompt processing. I'm seeing about 4k on my system, so I'd expect ...
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/oscnof4/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
osdln5n
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
os8hpw2
1
llama-impersonator
1,781,789,267
happens often enough i don't even blink at it now. some users get emotional and pile on, then the comment gets rescued later by people like you seeing an unobjectionable comment downvoted.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/osdln5n/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
osg8d8z
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
1u8eq0g
0
Plane-Marionberry380
1,781,814,511
26 to 28 t/s for a 31B Q6 at 16k context is not wildly broken, but the prompt processing number still looks low for that much GPU. A few things I would isolate before chasing more flags: Test one GPU at a time with the same model and ctx. If the 5080 alone is close to the split setup, the second card is mostly addi...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/osg8d8z/
1,789,195,788
batch-priority-2026-summer
osgqvbi
LocalLLaMA
1u8eq0g
osg8d8z
1
LongDistanceRope
1,781,819,759
probably wasn't clear in the first post. I built a pc for a friend with the 5080, its his. the 4080 is mine. I just put both of them in same pc to see what 32gb vram and 5080+4080 setup can do. (which was a bit reckless given a 1000w psu, but actually survived.) And honestly seeing the numbers, 5080+4080 sounds like a ...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u8eq0g/comment/osgqvbi/
1,789,195,731
batch-priority-2026-summer
os7wyk0
LocalLLaMA
1u8gceo
1u8gceo
0
pmttyji
1,781,716,597
![img](735mj3l6mv7h1)
5
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