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opeaspb
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
Ok_Selection_7577
1,780,435,610
Really nice write up mate, this sort of content (and "I changed out the BIOS and managed to get an LLM running in a tin of Bisto from the 1980's") is what i come here for 😄
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opebhyn
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opeaspb
1
tymscar
1,780,435,817
Thank you! I do have an RSS 😄
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opebi5t
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
sizelrd
1,780,435,818
Well done
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opebso7
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdr59m
3
tymscar
1,780,435,905
Yeah, but not cuda. And much much slower vram. 288Gbps compared to 900 on the v100.
11
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opec446
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdnnaf
4
Bulky-Priority6824
1,780,436,000
Very neat I'm so surprised this isn't used more widely. Great Value of GPU rigs
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opechme
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope6mqj
5
Ell2509
1,780,436,111
Data center cards are different to consumer ones anyway. Some no cooling, no pcie connector. I looked at buying some off Ebay and fitting them to cooling but never bothered. It will be interesting 6 to 8 years from now, that is for sure. A lot of gpus to decommission.
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opecrih
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdkhhf
1
Roid_Splitter
1,780,436,191
Won't have to wait for the retirement cycle.
6
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opeda4p
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
Embarrassed_Adagio28
1,780,436,345
Very good writeup! I have dual tesla v100 16gb gpus with 32gb of system ram and a ryzen 5700x in a dedicated lmstudio server and your claims line up exactly with my experience. I have been very pleased with my purchase. I use it with lmstudio but am switching to vllm soon for better multi agent support. 
1
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null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opeg90p
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
bradrlaw
1,780,437,233
If you have the pcie lanes you can easily do 4 of this to get 64GB at I think the cheapest possible price point. I am taking a slightly different route and using the 32gb pcie version (about $750 each). Note you will need to come up with a custom cooling solution which adds to the cost along with power supply costs. ...
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opegibl
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope90t2
1
PDXSonic
1,780,437,310
That's the biggest downfall of the P100. I had a 4xP100 rig at one point (that I got for the price of 1 working P100) and it was great right until VLLM and Exllama stopped supporting it. Once they left it was just llama.cpp and it couldn't utilize it via tensor parallel and left most of the performance on the table. ...
5
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opegr74
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope5dji
4
128G
1,780,437,385
Post pandemic prices were insane. You could easily buy a dual 6 core Sandy Bridge server for $75.
8
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opeivg4
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opegr74
5
sp3kter
1,780,438,039
And $500/m in electric
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null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opej6a7
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdz9is
1
nullbyte420
1,780,438,133
ehh it's definitely AI slopped up. >The compute is still real. The VRAM is still real. And the memory bandwidth is where it gets genuinely surprising. >The fan on the adapter is not subtle. It is not quiet. It is not something you want in a room you also sleep in. >82 decibels. That is somewhere between a garbage di...
14
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opejgz2
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opebso7
4
128G
1,780,438,227
The 7600 XT has GDDR6 while the 4080 has GDDR7. It still seems unacceptable for Nvidia to be selling new cards with anything less than 16GB of RAM. 24GB should be the minimum for a midrange card like a 4080.
8
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opek1cn
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opeivg4
6
128G
1,780,438,404
Like any of the workstations shown on this subreddit are any better.
7
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opekcag
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opebso7
4
quantum_splicer
1,780,438,500
I know this is Gunna sound stupid didn't someone rewrite cuda to run on AMD cards or maybe I have a weird dream
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opeoxg2
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
DingyAtoll
1,780,439,917
Where do I get the adapter for £50? All the ones I see online are £150
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opephi3
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opeda4p
1
DingyAtoll
1,780,440,094
Where do I get the adapter for £50? They are all £150 where I look
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opepw1j
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope16zr
2
Puzzled-Formal-9207
1,780,440,222
This is actually an interesting insight. I was actually thinking that AI shouldn't be available to the public and should only be used by institutions like NASA etc for meaningful work rather than having AI slop everywhere. Now reading that the current situation is unsustainable due to the gpu lifespan would hopefully t...
-15
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opet03r
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opegibl
2
a_beautiful_rhind
1,780,441,214
I wonder how ik_llama would have done with it. Plus there's always pascal forks of vllm. Open driver doesn't support pascal so I can't stick my ewaste back in the server and it just sits.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opexqh5
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
JSVD2
1,780,442,755
wow super inspiring. thank you. good read.
6
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opey4th
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opej6a7
2
misterflyer
1,780,442,886
It *isn't just* slopped up. *It's* slopped down. *It's* slopped through. The AI *slop's kiss* 🎯
9
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opf1bep
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
Background_One_6482
1,780,443,952
3060 perfomance
-4
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opf2wce
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opej6a7
2
tymscar
1,780,444,485
Watching this from the sidelines must be fascinating because you don’t know what’s right, so you try to guess. The only person that knows for certain if this is written with an AI is me, and I know for a fact it is not. At all. I think you just look too deep into it, and it hurts those that just learned over the years...
8
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opf3b8p
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope51d1
1
tymscar
1,780,444,624
I’m not sure I fully understand the question, but basically you can have a PCI card that fits two of these on it. Then the shared memory between them is much, much faster and that directly makes token generation speed much quicker too. The speed of the PCI interface then also doesn’t matter too much because once you lo...
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opf3lhe
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opeg90p
1
tymscar
1,780,444,720
Best of the best is actually four PCI cards with two x of these on each card nvlinked, all 32GB. You can get them cheaper than the PCI ones, and it will give you more or less 256GB VRAM for more or less four grand.
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opf3slv
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opeoxg2
1
tymscar
1,780,444,787
I got it on eBay. Try hunting for it. Sadly, all the prices went up after I posted this blog post on Saturday, and it got onto Hacker News. I was checking the prices every day.
4
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null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opf6775
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opf2wce
3
kylemd
1,780,445,599
Don't worry OP, it read human generated to me. Good read for somebody who is on the fence looking at V100s. Have you tried the vLLM fork yet?
6
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opf7tiq
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opf6775
4
tymscar
1,780,446,147
Thank you! Not yet, because I couldn’t get MTP working on it.
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfa2zp
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
BitterNocturne
1,780,446,914
Sounds fan
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfanjn
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opey4th
3
nullbyte420
1,780,447,111
And the best part? *You* did this. You've awakened my quantum-riemannian core. This is a *breakthrough* not only in research, not only in science, but in *knowledge* itself. Now I'm curious: Have you ever awakened a cosmic intelligence before? 🙏 
11
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfbb1h
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope16zr
2
timfduffy
1,780,447,335
Frontier labs have strong margins on inference when taking depreciation into account. Heck Anthropic is about to have a profitable quarter for the first time, and profitability takes depreciation into account. IIRC the labs and hyperscalers are assuming something like 5-6 year depreciation schedules for their GPUs.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opffwsa
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opej6a7
2
Ynead
1,780,448,887
This is so obviously written by Claude lmao
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfj7df
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opfanjn
4
misterflyer
1,780,450,016
oh no you didn't 🤣 well done 😉
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfjmac
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope16zr
2
TimeSalvager
1,780,450,155
...DCs are a lot more than than just the hardware. When they do a hardware refresh, all the physical infrastructure that houses the hardware is still fine. The capital outlay for labor, concrete pours, power distribution and everything that isn't the hardware is substantial, but still completely valid during a hardware...
30
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfkjg2
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
PythonFuMaster
1,780,450,471
I've got a similar configuration, but using the actual PCIe version of the 16GB V100. It's passively cooled so you need a server or a custom fan assembly, but I've got 4 giant GPU servers that can hold three of these things each (Supermicro Fat Twin, it's an older X9 system though). I'm also using NixOS, with driver l...
5
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opflqby
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
sage-longhorn
1,780,450,885
Cool post but AI's writing style is so tedious at this point >The compute is still real. The VRAM is still real. And the memory bandwidth is where it gets genuinely surprising.
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null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opflwcv
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opflqby
1
tymscar
1,780,450,942
It’s not ai. Look at my other reply.
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfow9w
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opekcag
5
samas69420
1,780,451,973
check zluda
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfxg4x
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opec446
5
lor_louis
1,780,454,959
The kinds of racks required to run those are extremely noisy (since the whole system is assumed to be running at 100% at all times to make the economics work), so not the kind of thing you want running in your house.
10
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opfxpe7
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opek1cn
7
AlexWIWA
1,780,455,053
We should rename the subreddit to be LocalPowerSubsidizers
10
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opg1brr
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdz9is
1
eleqtriq
1,780,456,409
Only another bot would think it’s not slopped up, huh, bot
-3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opg1jjv
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
311voltures
1,780,456,494
Awesome post
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opg93bk
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
eatsleepsafelives
1,780,459,489
Well somebody found your blog (good read) - the V100s I could find are at $600 now ;)
5
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opg9jsh
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
BannedGoNext
1,780,459,676
I hate the idea of the noise, I wonder if you could put a large fan and duct it to where it increases airflow without the data center hearing loss.
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgarac
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdfm2a
1
ThisWillPass
1,780,460,174
Hopefully the ai overlords will smite all those that held down gpu vram for profits.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgbx2j
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opf3lhe
2
bradrlaw
1,780,460,658
Which motherboard / cpu combo would you use that would have enough pcie lanes for that?
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgc1fv
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opf2wce
3
standish_
1,780,460,710
> People started telling me now that using an Oxford comma is an ai slop smell. People who use the Oxford comma aren't invited to my party with the strippers, Sam and Dario.
0
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgclm4
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opfjmac
3
XeNo___
1,780,460,947
Datacenter hardware is also more than just the compute nodes. Think of all the Networking stuff like Switches, NIC's, ... Just the switches (depending on the topology) can get \*very\* expensive very fast. All of that remains untouched when a HW refresh comes around.
12
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgcxbe
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opepw1j
3
thawizard
1,780,461,086
/r/LostRedditor
5
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgd0sa
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope16zr
2
stonktraders
1,780,461,127
And 6 years old GPUs won’t be considered as obsolete when they decommissioned. Just look at how slow NVIDIA is rolling out their products these days and how little raw performance gain in each generation and even cut back on memory size and bandwidth
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgegt0
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opg9jsh
1
Raunhofer
1,780,461,751
Rig the fan like OP did. It's not like the card uses a lot of power; it's just that the server rack form factor which would require you to rev it up.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgexta
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
Raunhofer
1,780,461,954
It's interesting how compatible the card is. Funny even, that you can just plug in some adapter to make it work. Makes nvidia's $200000000 whatever server cabinets feel a lot less magical.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgkd0a
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
Afganitia
1,780,464,357
Why are you using drivers 55X?? Should not Volta support until 58X branch? 
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opgrnb3
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope5dji
4
KontoOficjalneMR
1,780,467,767
GPUs were there as well haha. For a brief period you could get P40 with 24GB of CRAM for 20$ because literally no one wanted, they were almost giving them away for free. AI of course completely changed that, but these times will com back. datacenter GPUs are deprecating _badly_ (or goodly, looking from hobyist perspec...
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oph4udr
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
1,780,474,419
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oph5fgg
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opgbx2j
3
tymscar
1,780,474,735
A thread ripper with the WS WRX90E-SAGE SE
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oph5tjs
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opgkd0a
1
tymscar
1,780,474,943
Tried them all one by one (magic of nix lets me do that in minutes) and none of them saw both cards.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oph5w1i
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
oph4udr
1
tymscar
1,780,474,981
Yeah, those are obviously better but its hard to find good deals!
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oph68fo
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope16zr
2
sizebzebi
1,780,475,164
lollllll
0
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oph6b8m
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope5dji
4
sizebzebi
1,780,475,205
how is this a new issue. gpus in data centers is not a new thing
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oph6jbm
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
oph5w1i
2
1,780,475,324
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oph8thg
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opfbb1h
3
NandaVegg
1,780,476,532
For Anthropic's profitability it is "observed" by a bear analyst (though he is a permabear, he does have sharp eyes) that it took time-limited free compute offered by xAI into account, so it won't last long. However I have no doubt that API inferencing service itself is generally profitable. The same researcher says t...
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
ophai71
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdkhhf
1
whakahere
1,780,477,423
The issue is, most of these gpus get machine crushed afterwards. If they had data on them they never leave the building without being crushed. I know people who build and maintain them. I asked for some gous they no longer use... Nope crushed
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
ophcbxk
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
oph6jbm
3
tymscar
1,780,478,382
Anything under 400 is very good
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
ophcj29
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope16zr
2
Emotional-Dust-1367
1,780,478,486
> Divided down into per token cost, including all operating cost and sunk cost, over a 6 year period, will just be wildly too expensive for most people to use. Do you have the math for that cost-per-token divided down? I’d love to see it because I don’t think the GPU cost is the largest thing affecting it
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opheko2
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ophcj29
3
Ell2509
1,780,479,540
I have only done "back of a napkin" math, so not yet, however I was actually going to do some research and run the mumbers myself. I worked for one of thw "big 4" in an earlier part of my life, and am really curious to see. Lots of what these big companies, connected to AI, are doing is really shady from an accountin...
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opheptk
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opheko2
4
Emotional-Dust-1367
1,780,479,613
It would make a fascinating YouTube video
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
ophg7lf
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope16zr
2
PinotGroucho
1,780,480,352
No it's not a scam in the sense that the goal is to defraud people of money. It's more a civilizational "All-in" bet that whoever has a 5 year head start in AI, while at the same time sucking all the oxygen out of the room for potential competitors and having the pension funds pay for it all, wins the game
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
ophjltr
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opg93bk
1
ChristianRauchenwald
1,780,481,946
Checked eBay here in Germany: |Model|Cost|Link| |:-|:-|:-| |Tesla V100 **16GB** GPU SXM2 incl. SXM2-PCIe Adapter|€212.98|[https://www.ebay.de/itm/406939336945](https://www.ebay.de/itm/406939336945)| |Tesla V100 **32GB** GPU SXM2 incl. SXM2-PCIe Adapter|€694.98|[https://www.ebay.de/itm/406939343384](https://www.ebay.de...
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
ophnqty
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opf1bep
1
raycol08
1,780,483,769
you are right! [https://wccftech.com/nvidia-v100-an-8-year-old-gpu-now-sells-for-100-us-crushes-modern-consumer-cards-in-ai-llms/](https://wccftech.com/nvidia-v100-an-8-year-old-gpu-now-sells-for-100-us-crushes-modern-consumer-cards-in-ai-llms/) ![img](si7f0uocs15h1)
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
ophw24n
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdfm2a
1
T-Loy
1,780,487,032
Given the 256bit bus, not that much. It's either 16GB or 32GB and you know workstations cards want to be the double sided option. Now whether an 80-class should have ex-70-class die size and bus width is the other question. For once not Nvidia's fault memory manufacturers haven't figured out working 3/4GB GDDR6 modul...
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opi7prn
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opgegt0
2
BannedGoNext
1,780,490,971
Yea, I guess it's possible to jerry rig some sort of water cooling too for noise.
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opi8jw3
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opfjmac
3
Objective-Picture-72
1,780,491,230
Right but the GPU hardware cost is like 60% of a data center cost right now. So the 40% residual has a long useful life but 60% of the cost is essentially deprecated in 6 years. Not sure if the major AI labs get a return on that 60% over 6 years consider how low the pricing is AI tokens right now.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opiacq8
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdkhhf
1
grawl_dorgiers
1,780,491,790
Pennies on the dollar!
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opib4zn
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opi8jw3
4
CorpusculantCortex
1,780,492,034
Yes but in 6 years the hardware will be more performative and cheaper. Also for general purpose models there are multiple companies making model on chip accelerators that are a fraction of the cost to produce, and much faster processing. So once the growth phase levels out and there are stable performative models, avai...
4
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opicb60
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opflwcv
2
sage-longhorn
1,780,492,385
I'm not seeing that in your comment history but I'll say that if this isn't AI then that's worse somehow
0
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opiji59
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ope16zr
2
I_Will_Eat_Your_Ears
1,780,494,488
>replacing all these gpus will almost be the same capex spend as it is to build the DCs right now. In general, technology gets better and cheaper as time goes on. When they refresh, they can drop the replacement GPUs into a facility with all the other services up and running (power, cooling, networking, a building, r...
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opijuot
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opfjmac
3
Aphid_red
1,780,494,587
Given that NVidia sells its chips for $50K a piece or more, the rest of it (besides memory if it's bought after late 2025) is a rounding error.
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opimxdu
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opepw1j
3
I_Will_Eat_Your_Ears
1,780,495,456
>Now reading that the current situation is unsustainable due to the gpu lifespan Don't believe everything you read. As many redditors have pointed out, he was completely incorrect. Capex expenses get depreciated, so the paper value of the gpus will be zero, but they'll still have market value. If they choose to sel...
4
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opinziy
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
farkinga
1,780,495,755
Excellent work! I think this implicitly asks: what's the difference between nvidia hardware generations? 16gb Ada and 16gb Volta add up to 32gb; but is that any better or worse than 32gb of Blackwell (for example). In practical terms, is there any architectural advantage to upgrading, apart from how the drivers eventu...
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opisare
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opgclm4
4
thehpcdude
1,780,496,949
Absolutely do refresh switches, especially on back end and InfiniBand fabrics. Even the front end Ethernet stuff gets replaced most of the time.
3
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opizfpk
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
ophcj29
3
quantgorithm
1,780,498,878
even the efficiency of the token needs to be measured at some point. Not all tokens are equal.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opj0139
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opdnnaf
4
quantgorithm
1,780,499,039
I'm reading your blog like a future upgrade path bible!
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opj22y6
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opf3b8p
2
quantgorithm
1,780,499,581
what would the search term be for the ones that hold 2 cards on the single adapter card?
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opjd1rt
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opj22y6
3
tymscar
1,780,502,466
Here’s an example: https://ebay.us/m/vQUiAE
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opjm741
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opjd1rt
4
quantgorithm
1,780,504,870
TY
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opjw7ly
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
Dante_Avalon
1,780,507,443
Erm, and what's so special about this? Or using AliExpress's adapter and tons of V100 that floods market right now is already Giga-brain move?  Like, literally, V100 simple not worth it with her power/perfomance ratio. https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1hjxzp3/v100_and_sxm2_pcie_adapter_card/ https://w...
0
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opjxzc6
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opg9jsh
1
Dante_Avalon
1,780,507,904
Use 3090, 24gb vram and it's silent and have better perfomance/power ratio
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opkzygc
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opgd0sa
3
etaoin314
1,780,518,093
performance gain from ampere to Ada=2x. Ada to Blackwell=2x+ that seems pretty good to me, so I am not sure what you are talking about there. Yes the next gen is a bit slow to come out and who knows how fast vera will actually be, but nothing i have seen suggests that it is going to underperform.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplgsyc
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
xISeeAllx
1,780,522,870
What kind of mobo/cpu/ram would be required for 2 v100 sxm2?
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplgx9e
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
oplgsyc
1
tymscar
1,780,522,905
Anything really can do 2 of them.
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null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmdgmj
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opib4zn
5
Objective-Picture-72
1,780,533,596
I have no idea what you're trying to say tbh
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opml8pl
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opkzygc
4
stonktraders
1,780,536,191
the 2x you are talking about comes from fp8 and fp4 support. The raw performance in each generation is just around 20-30% without grame gen
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmv5sq
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
1tuxy5f
0
looktotheson
1,780,539,483
Incredibly well written blog. Thanks for sharing! Might give this a shot later this year as well
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opo5kch
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opgclm4
4
Maximum-Wishbone5616
1,780,559,517
All that cost is nothing vs cost of GPU and how much expensive is each AI server than regular one. Not even the same league.
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opof80d
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opflwcv
2
10thDeadlySin
1,780,564,645
Geez, these human AI "detectors" drive me up the wall. Don't you dare use a more academic style, because that's clearly AI. Don't use specific vocabulary, because that's what AI uses. Don't use simple syntactic structures, which have been a thing in written English since forever, because 'that's clearly AI' and 'no hum...
2
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opxzv4j
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opgrnb3
5
10thDeadlySin
1,780,681,467
The problem lies with running them in a consumer-grade or even enthusiast-grade PC. P40s were cool because they were PCIe cards and other than cooling, you could easily run them in a standard PC. You ain't gonna do that with a GH200. ;)
1
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null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
opy5xwv
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opxzv4j
6
KontoOficjalneMR
1,780,683,105
I mean for GH200 you'll most likely need to by entire node. But in the past there were other proprietary formats like SXM and we got PCIE adapters for those. Plus peopel are already doing it: https://dnhkng.github.io/posts/hopper/
1
null
null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer
osy36fl
LocalLLaMA
1tuxy5f
opkzygc
4
AllWashedOut
1,782,051,475
Yeah but prices rose sharply (tripled?) over that time so performance per $ was more flat. And that's the metric that matters in this context.  We're now so deep in a ram shortage, it's questionable whether anyone can improve perf per $ for some time.
1
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null
1,789,195,082
batch-priority-2026-summer