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oplmm7a
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oplhrhg
3
DefactoAle
1,780,524,625
does the performance justify the time increase from the 35b a3b?
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplmtyw
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oplmm7a
4
feverdoingwork
1,780,524,692
Yes, it's good enough for production quality code. I use it daily for real dev work.
4
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplpet4
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
opli9c4
1
1,780,525,515
3
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplusdm
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oplpet4
2
CheatCodesOfLife
1,780,527,272
If I install "vs codium" alongside vscode, are they effectively isolated? Ie, config/settings in vscode won't interfere with vs codium?
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplwdw7
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oplusdm
3
1,780,527,791
3
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm256x
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
1tw364k
0
Legendary_Lava
1,780,529,703
doesnt gemma have some pretty heavy KV cache quantization sensitivity?
4
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm38oz
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
ople3xl
1
boutell
1,780,530,079
While my experience was not quite as bad as that, I definitely watched it grind getting confused with how to call opencode tools
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm5nuh
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oplgm3p
3
guigouz
1,780,530,904
`--chat-template-file <file>`
7
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm6fiv
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
opm5nuh
4
RoroTitiFR
1,780,531,166
Thank you, so it’s really simple 😁
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm8cdj
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
ople3xl
1
dinerburgeryum
1,780,531,822
OpenCode is too heavy for a 12B model. Prefer something much smaller like Pi. 
9
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opma2p9
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oplwdw7
4
CheatCodesOfLife
1,780,532,422
Thanks, that's exactly what i was hoping for. So it'd be like having Chrome and Chromium. >You do not even need to download vs codium, the extension was meant to work with vs code. I'd rather try it in a separate "chromium-like" equivalent, which it sounds like vscodium is.
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmb4l9
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oplgg1n
2
Sudden-Echo-8976
1,780,532,790
I wasn't able to run any Gemma model on Pi. I don't know if it's the jinga template that's wrong, but it just all around failed at everything.
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmburl
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
ople3xl
1
Jorlen
1,780,533,042
Before I put --jinja in my llama cpp server config, gemma4 was just broken. I don't know if you're using llama cpp but if so, give it a try. I did the same test as you, with OpenCode and Gemma12 was able to do everything fine, it created the one-shot app test I asked it to. So this is what is the winning recipe with...
3
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opn63hx
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
1tw364k
0
suesing
1,780,543,317
It seems promising. Maybe Gemma’s best intelligence per weight llm
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opnffph
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
1tw364k
0
as_ninja6
1,780,547,011
Can you share the memory footprint for these settings?
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opo5pt5
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
1tw364k
0
scubid
1,780,559,599
Is it better than gemma-4-26b-a4b at coding? For my quick simple tests it was not better at all and much slower.
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oppwnfw
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
opm8cdj
2
sixx7
1,780,583,808
Yup Gemma4 12B worked perfectly in Pi. It seems Google might have finally gotten tool-calling right
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opq5xii
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oppwnfw
3
dinerburgeryum
1,780,586,318
Yeah, Cline and OpenCode use gobsmackingly heavy system prompts that twist up smaller models. Personally, that alone made them somewhat disqualifying.
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opqk5p0
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
opma2p9
5
uhuge
1,780,590,091
yup, good luck finding the one line trick that enables VScode extension market there!+)
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opqtvsf
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
ople3xl
1
Separate-Forever-447
1,780,592,661
I am seeing decent results, no tool failures, running q6\_k\_xl quant in opencode. Sure, its code review output isn't as comprehensive as a larger/stronger model, but no issues. Am using 128K context. Key is setting that large enough to handle the tool definitions and agent instructions that the harness sends. Otherw...
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oprfibx
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oplpet4
2
ali0une
1,780,598,357
Many thanks, got it up and running and it's a great codium extension to have beside continue.dev
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oprozxf
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
opmburl
2
Velocita84
1,780,600,940
Jinja is already enabled by default, it's just placebo.
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opt7cwm
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
1tw364k
0
KimLikeJ
1,780,617,609
Single-shot log parsing is a reasonable sanity check, but the real signal comes when you put it in a loop and let the environment talk back. In my experience with 12B-range models on agent tasks, the first failure mode is never the happy path. It's what happens when a tool call returns something unexpected and the mode...
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opt97em
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
1tw364k
0
128G
1,780,618,270
Why not 26B?
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oq1s11c
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
1tw364k
0
pmttyji
1,780,729,035
u/Wrong_Mushroom_7350 Would love to see new thread with Gemma-4-12B-QAT version from you.
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oq1sgez
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oq1s11c
1
1,780,729,251
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oq1sl7i
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oq1sgez
2
pmttyji
1,780,729,320
Thanks
2
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
or9bnay
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
1tw364k
0
Special-Lawyer-7253
1,781,282,254
Tool calling still broken?
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
ora4rav
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
or9bnay
1
1,781,290,110
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
ora93o7
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
ora4rav
2
Special-Lawyer-7253
1,781,291,307
Using It with openclaw. All turns i miust say "continúe". Qwen 3.6 don't have this problem
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oraariz
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
ora93o7
3
1,781,291,771
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oragjb3
LocalLLaMA
1tw364k
oraariz
4
Special-Lawyer-7253
1,781,293,388
Still broken
1
null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplrjjp
LocalLLaMA
1tw4q4g
1tw4q4g
0
nickm_27
1,780,526,213
Why is the prompt processing so slow for an MoE? My 7900XTX is over 2000 tok/s pp
2
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4q4g/tested_rx7900xtx_with_rocm7_power_profiles/oplrjjp/
1,789,195,005
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplrv4j
LocalLLaMA
1tw4q4g
oplrjjp
1
Thin_Pollution8843
1,780,526,320
Idk tbh. What your llama cpp command and which backend you are using?
2
true
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4q4g/tested_rx7900xtx_with_rocm7_power_profiles/oplrv4j/
1,789,195,005
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplsmdi
LocalLLaMA
1tw4q4g
oplrv4j
2
nickm_27
1,780,526,568
I use vulkan ``` [*] ; Set Chat Template jinja = true ; GPU Performance n-gpu-layers = -1 flash-attn = on fit = off ; Overall Performance prio = 3 prio-batch = 3 ; Increased Batch Size batch-size = 2048 ubatch-size = 1024 ; Set reasonable max thinking budgets reasoning-budget-message = '... Taking too long, need ...
2
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4q4g/tested_rx7900xtx_with_rocm7_power_profiles/oplsmdi/
1,789,195,005
batch-priority-2026-summer
opml1ex
LocalLLaMA
1tw4q4g
oplrv4j
2
genpfault
1,780,536,122
&gt; What your llama cpp command and which backend you are using? I'm also seeing ~2000 tok/s pp, using your command w/the MTP `UD-Q4_K_M` quant (what I had on hand), power limit set to 302W in LACT: $ llama-bench -hf unsloth/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-MTP-GGUF:UD-Q4_K_M -ngl 99 -fa on -mmp 0 -p 32768 -n 256 -r 2 ggml_v...
2
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4q4g/tested_rx7900xtx_with_rocm7_power_profiles/opml1ex/
1,789,195,005
batch-priority-2026-summer
opolw2b
LocalLLaMA
1tw4q4g
opml1ex
3
Thin_Pollution8843
1,780,567,958
This is MTP model - withouth MTP I have only 35t/s while pp around 2k.
1
true
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4q4g/tested_rx7900xtx_with_rocm7_power_profiles/opolw2b/
1,789,195,005
batch-priority-2026-summer
opqbzx3
LocalLLaMA
1tw4q4g
oplrv4j
2
Flamenverfer
1,780,587,939
I also get numbers that low for PP 1.29.418.501 I slot print_timing: id 3 | task 0 | prompt processing, n_tokens = 29682, progress = 1.00, t = 52.35 s / **566.97 tokens per second** 1.30.929.118 I slot create_check: id 3 | task 0 | created context checkpoint 4 of 32 (pos_min = 29681, pos_max = 29681, n_tokens = 2...
1
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4q4g/tested_rx7900xtx_with_rocm7_power_profiles/opqbzx3/
1,789,195,005
batch-priority-2026-summer
opqc9tn
LocalLLaMA
1tw4q4g
oplrjjp
1
Flamenverfer
1,780,588,012
I get similar low numbers on llama.cpp 1.29.418.501 I slot print_timing: id 3 | task 0 | prompt processing, n_tokens = 29682, progress = 1.00, t = ** 52.35 s / 566.97 tokens per second** 1.30.929.118 I slot create_check: id 3 | task 0 | created context checkpoint 4 of 32 (pos_min = 29681, pos_max = 29681, n_tokens =...
1
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4q4g/tested_rx7900xtx_with_rocm7_power_profiles/opqc9tn/
1,789,195,005
batch-priority-2026-summer
opqeyww
LocalLLaMA
1tw4q4g
opqc9tn
2
nickm_27
1,780,588,717
yeah that seems very slow, running llama-bench with Qwen 35B or Gemma 26B I see over 100 tok/s decode and well over 2000 tok/s pp. Can you share the full output if your llama-bench?
2
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4q4g/tested_rx7900xtx_with_rocm7_power_profiles/opqeyww/
1,789,195,005
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplw61y
LocalLLaMA
1tw4s83
1tw4s83
0
BitGreen1270
1,780,527,718
Nice. What model are you running and how much t/s are you seeing? How much were you seeing without the vulkan backend?
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4s83/deleted_by_user/oplw61y/
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplwtvc
LocalLLaMA
1tw4s83
oplw61y
1
GsxrGuy80s
1,780,527,938
Thanks. The proof run in the screenshot is \`PocketNode\_Operator\_Q4\_0.gguf\` with gpu\_layers=89. That short generation hit \`57 tokens in 0.50s\`, reported as about 114.5 TPS, with runtime showing backend=Vulkan,OpenCL. I would not treat that as a universal benchmark yet, though. That was a short generation after ...
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4s83/deleted_by_user/oplwtvc/
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplq6fp
LocalLLaMA
1tw4wpt
1tw4wpt
0
AutoModerator
1,780,525,764
Hello! Your post was removed as you do not have sufficient karma on r/LocalLLaMa. We are doing this in response to the large volume of spam we are unfortunately experiencing. Please participate in the sub (through comments), gain the minimum of 5 karma and then re-post *I am a bot, and this action was performed automa...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw4wpt/bigger_rlhf_models_are_more_sycophantic_not_less/oplq6fp/
1,789,195,007
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplsx78
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
RedParaglider
1,780,526,665
Are they counting all of the models that they forced people's browsers to download?
160
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oplsx78/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplt0f1
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
Bubbly-Staff-9452
1,780,526,695
Does this count all the copies they downloaded on Android phones without permission or notification?
31
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oplt0f1/
1,789,195,027
batch-priority-2026-summer
opltp4z
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
ortegaalfredo
1,780,526,919
LMAO the models are downloading themselves. When there is 50 billion of funding behind a technology, truth is a very distant priority.
17
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opltp4z/
1,789,195,027
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplw78j
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplsx78
1
Rude_Marzipan6107
1,780,527,729
I would bet that is the case
7
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oplw78j/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplycon
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opltp4z
1
Budget-Juggernaut-68
1,780,528,441
Actually what does that mean? That the models are downloading themselves?
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oplycon/
1,789,195,027
batch-priority-2026-summer
oplzv28
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplsx78
1
KURD_1_STAN
1,780,528,941
If betting wasn't haram i would bet my gpu on that being the case
6
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oplzv28/
1,789,195,019
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm00ie
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
Prize_Negotiation66
1,780,528,991
Uhm you can run 27b on 16gb with decent quality
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opm00ie/
1,789,195,042
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm04ef
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
PassengerPigeon343
1,780,529,027
I mean didn’t we all have to download the models like 5 times each during the initial bug fix cycles? I’m probably at least 10-15 of those by myself and it would be more if Qwen 3.6 hadn’t stolen my heart
50
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opm04ef/
1,789,195,027
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm0uqw
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplsx78
1
scottgal2
1,780,529,269
Coming to say that, yeah Gemma4 Nano..
32
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opm0uqw/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm0vs9
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplzv28
2
tat_tvam_asshole
1,780,529,279
but only if it was haram! otherwise I ain't doing it habibi
5
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opm0vs9/
1,789,195,019
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm2ks7
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
reality_comes
1,780,529,852
Because its 2 months....
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opm2ks7/
1,789,195,071
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm2mqy
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opm0vs9
3
KURD_1_STAN
1,780,529,871
Ah typo. Anyways why call me habibi, im not an arab
-5
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opm2mqy/
1,789,195,019
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm3gok
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplycon
2
ortegaalfredo
1,780,530,155
Its a funny way to say that I believe they are not real downloads, its mostly bots or just directly cooking the numbers.
6
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opm3gok/
1,789,195,034
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm7ge5
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opm04ef
1
cakemates
1,780,531,517
yeah but how many local llm users do you think there are? if we are generous a fraction of a million? you have to do some numbers cooking in the desert to get to 150m+.
6
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opm7ge5/
1,789,195,027
batch-priority-2026-summer
opma9ss
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
a_beautiful_rhind
1,780,532,491
Anything that spins it up on demand will also likely re-download the weights.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opma9ss/
1,789,195,071
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmels4
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
Xamanthas
1,780,533,980
Because it includes the quants and such, including models where some fuckwit bots downloads of his own model for resume reasons. Not even joking.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opmels4/
1,789,195,071
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmeoky
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
nicksterling
1,780,534,007
It’s also a really good local model. I built support for it directly into my custom harness and with the right system prompt/skills/tools it’s excellent. It’s no Opus but it’s quite good for being local.
9
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opmeoky/
1,789,195,042
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmfunh
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opm00ie
1
Healthy-Nebula-3603
1,780,534,400
DECENT????? sure buddy ....
6
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opmfunh/
1,789,195,042
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmg4e6
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opm2mqy
4
tat_tvam_asshole
1,780,534,492
you don't have to be arab to be habibi wallah
8
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opmg4e6/
1,789,195,019
batch-priority-2026-summer
opml7dz
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
adelope
1,780,536,179
Actually it is a bit underwhelming by Google's standard, i remember a few years ago I trained a model at Google (One of Mediapipe's models) that was downloaded/used couple of hundred million times in a few months) and we were like meh! Google's distribution is very effective.
5
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opml7dz/
1,789,195,042
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmmmz3
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplt0f1
1
send-moobs-pls
1,780,536,635
Hehe
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opmmmz3/
1,789,195,027
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmmtkp
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
Labyricorn
1,780,536,698
To be fair you have to dial down the context window for it to fit 16gb, but it does run sweetly.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opmmtkp/
1,789,195,071
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmvaj6
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplsx78
1
nabagaca
1,780,539,529
I don't think chrome is using Gemma 4? I thought it was still using Gemini 3 nano, which is based on Gemma 3n?
11
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opmvaj6/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
opnp3uh
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
xadiant
1,780,551,339
Because there are 8 billion people on earth. 1 billion people in India have internet access. Not surprising since it's a google release
4
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opnp3uh/
1,789,195,042
batch-priority-2026-summer
opnrvvo
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplsx78
1
hackerllama
1,780,552,650
150m is from Hugging Face and Ollama and open platforms usage
9
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opnrvvo/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
opnsj5k
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oplsx78
1
XeNo___
1,780,552,960
The biggest is most likely from cloud services like Runpod. Consider plattforms booting containers of vLLM downloading the model on every start if they aren't being cached. Same for Huggingface, ...
9
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opnsj5k/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
opny1i8
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
aeroumbria
1,780,555,673
using hardware OEM to smuggle OS -> using OS to smuggle browser -> combining hardware OEM and OS to smuggle even more browser -> using browser to smuggle models (you are here) -> using models to smuggle sleeper agents -> using sleeper agents to activate kill switch
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opny1i8/
1,789,195,071
batch-priority-2026-summer
opnz63h
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
relmny
1,780,556,227
"on a laptop with JUST 16gb vram"... sure! who doesn't have a laptop with just 16gb vram? Those numbers look as real as the statement about the laptop... edit: it’s also a dense model and about 24gb, so that won't fit in 16gb so it can't be run on such laptop. And the comment doesn't mention quantization, so another...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opnz63h/
1,789,195,071
batch-priority-2026-summer
opo04tz
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
CatalyticDragon
1,780,556,703
Two months. Gemma 4 was released on April 2nd. There would be some double counting as many people who download one size would also download others.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opo04tz/
1,789,195,071
batch-priority-2026-summer
opo6dgi
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opmfunh
2
ea_man
1,780,559,942
A dense model at IQ4 is decent, yes. A dense model can be surprisingly good even at Q3.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opo6dgi/
1,789,195,042
batch-priority-2026-summer
opo6fs9
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opm00ie
1
cagriuluc
1,780,559,975
I really wonder how people manage this… is the context size like 100 tokens?
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opo6fs9/
1,789,195,058
batch-priority-2026-summer
opoa1vb
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opo6fs9
2
ea_man
1,780,561,892
cHunter789/Qwen3.6-27B-i1-IQ4\_XS-GGUF \* 92672ctx on KDE with -ctk q8\_0 -ctv q5\_0 \\ \- mradermacher/Qwen3.6-27B-uncensored-heretic-v2-Native-MTP-Preserved.i1-IQ3\_M.gguf \* n\_ctx = 152576 -ctk q8\_0 -ctv q5\_0 \\ Qwen3.6-27B.i1-IQ4_XS-attn_qkv-IQ4_XS.gguf -ctk q8_0 -ctv q5_0 \ 0.00.022....
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opoa1vb/
1,789,195,058
batch-priority-2026-summer
opomh4r
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opo6dgi
3
Healthy-Nebula-3603
1,780,568,230
So you're one of these people who thinks q3 is good enough even breaking code or hallucinating or information? People like you layer are showing models are benchmaxed because in real file are not as good. Even q4 is bad if you using agents or writing nor translating a long text. Lower quants are even worse. Us...
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opomh4r/
1,789,195,051
batch-priority-2026-summer
opooo8i
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opomh4r
4
ea_man
1,780,569,228
Yes, I used a QWEN 27B Q3 dense for coding, it was better than smaller models at higher quants and bigger MoE.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opooo8i/
1,789,195,051
batch-priority-2026-summer
opoqty0
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opm00ie
1
markole
1,780,570,160
That thing won't run but crawl.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opoqty0/
1,789,195,058
batch-priority-2026-summer
opor315
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opm7ge5
2
MarkoMarjamaa
1,780,570,266
You can check the download counts in HF. The Gemma 4 models had sum something like 25M. Still not near 150M, but def more than 1M.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opor315/
1,789,195,027
batch-priority-2026-summer
opp9z8a
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
Koseph-Jony
1,780,577,190
I only have 8gb vram 🥲
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opp9z8a/
1,789,195,071
batch-priority-2026-summer
oppaylb
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opooo8i
5
Healthy-Nebula-3603
1,780,577,507
In that case your code was very simple if you was ok with that. Imagine that Q8 or fp16 could handle much more complex code.
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null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oppaylb/
1,789,195,051
batch-priority-2026-summer
oppc29z
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opnsj5k
2
baseketball
1,780,577,854
Insane to download a massive model each instantiation instead of just baking into your image.
2
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oppc29z/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
oppcu8p
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oppaylb
6
ea_man
1,780,578,095
I don't think so, the same model can attack the same kind of problems with similar results, it's not like Q8 becomes ChatGPT while Q4 is Omnicoder.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oppcu8p/
1,789,195,051
batch-priority-2026-summer
oppe8a3
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
UniForceMusic
1,780,578,529
150 million downloads seems perfectly feasable tbh. Its across ALL Gemma 4 models i assume. And they have many models. E2B, E4B, 12B, 26B A4B, 31B. Combined with some redownloads because of some issues that needed to be fixed, and many people download multiple models. Then i'm guessing you're looking at 25 million pe...
5
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/oppe8a3/
1,789,195,042
batch-priority-2026-summer
opq8m5p
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
FewBasis7497
1,780,587,041
Are these laptops with "just 16GB VRAM" here in this room with us?
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opq8m5p/
1,789,195,083
batch-priority-2026-summer
opqeejq
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oppc29z
3
Jordanquake
1,780,588,568
Yeah would assume more of the downloads are coming from local for this reason
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opqeejq/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
opqqvwr
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opq8m5p
1
DragonfruitIll660
1,780,591,878
3080 mobile has 16GB (also an 8GB version tbf). It runs well on my system, though idk if it outclasses the 26B A4B with some CPU offloading so it might be purely if you don't have 10-15 gigs of additional ram.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opqqvwr/
1,789,195,083
batch-priority-2026-summer
opr3jsx
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
D3c1m470r
1,780,595,179
'with just 16gb vram' yeah dude....
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opr3jsx/
1,789,195,083
batch-priority-2026-summer
opthkxd
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opmeoky
1
AndrewAuAU
1,780,621,288
Its no qwen either. Gemma 4 is around 41 in one of the common tool calling benches and qwen 3.6 is at 63 (admittedly very close for everything else). Benches smentches but this was born out in my own testing with gemma most of the time tripping balls all over the place for the same task. Alibaba are still optimizing ...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opthkxd/
1,789,195,042
batch-priority-2026-summer
opti2m1
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
oppcu8p
7
AndrewAuAU
1,780,621,459
Agreed. Unless of course your try trying to oneshot some slop app or benchmark in which case you need all the extra quant. Lower quants are fine for some use cases.
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opti2m1/
1,789,195,051
batch-priority-2026-summer
opvuglv
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
1tw5764
0
00shichi
1,780,658,908
I'm sure there are a lot of people re-downloading and keep in mind that it is across ALL gemma models btw, do you know what else is massive...
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opvuglv/
1,789,195,083
batch-priority-2026-summer
opwms92
LocalLLaMA
1tw5764
opm04ef
1
Adventurous-Paper566
1,780,668,202
I already downloaded Gemma 4 12B four times lol
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw5764/how_can_the_numbers_be_this_massive_within_a_month/opwms92/
1,789,195,027
batch-priority-2026-summer
opm238u
LocalLLaMA
1tw6ju7
1tw6ju7
0
AutoModerator
1,780,529,685
Hello! Your post was removed as you do not have sufficient karma on r/LocalLLaMa. We are doing this in response to the large volume of spam we are unfortunately experiencing. Please participate in the sub (through comments), gain the minimum of 5 karma and then re-post *I am a bot, and this action was performed automa...
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null
null
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opn5e33
LocalLLaMA
1tw6vna
1tw6vna
0
SadPhilosophy9202
1,780,543,067
Can it run doom?
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw6vna/comment/opn5e33/
1,789,195,015
batch-priority-2026-summer
opqtxlk
LocalLLaMA
1tw6vna
1tw6vna
0
uhuge
1,780,592,675
ram is a bar indicator or censured?🤔
3
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw6vna/comment/opqtxlk/
1,789,195,026
batch-priority-2026-summer
opsds8y
LocalLLaMA
1tw6vna
opqtxlk
1
Sn0opY_GER
1,780,607,907
That was one of the earlier Screenshots I removed ram and added vram and gpu load, and replaced the status text with emoji for shorter text and added 3 lines console output it works pretty ok now, but the 4sec delay sucks but hey it was free and I didn't use it, and now it has a real purpose
1
null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw6vna/comment/opsds8y/
1,789,195,015
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmeim4
LocalLLaMA
1tw87zm
1tw87zm
0
AutoModerator
1,780,533,950
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false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw87zm/has_anyone_got_gemma_4_12b_mtp_working/opmeim4/
1,789,195,011
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmfwpc
LocalLLaMA
1tw8eev
1tw8eev
0
AutoModerator
1,780,534,419
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false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw8eev/i_pooled_16_free_llm_api_tiers_behind_one_openai/opmfwpc/
1,789,195,004
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmo6n3
LocalLLaMA
1tw9f7m
1tw9f7m
0
AutoModerator
1,780,537,135
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1tw9f7m/comment/opmo6n3/
1,789,195,008
batch-priority-2026-summer
opmy8co
LocalLLaMA
1twaoy0
1twaoy0
0
AutoModerator
1,780,540,552
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