Benchmark page: Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, Qwen 3.8 DWQ, gpt-oss-20b, Qwen3 Reranker, Arete 27B, Axion 1.0 35B
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| { | |
| "schema": "sp-benchmarks-v1", | |
| "boards": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "factory-qwen35-4b-apple-m5-pro-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "factory", | |
| "recipe": "qwen35-4b", | |
| "order": 10, | |
| "model": "Qwen3.5-4B (Smarty)", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3.5-4B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-10-22", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (top-1 match vs 8-bit)", | |
| "test": "Speed: output tokens per second on a short chat (median of 3 after a warm-up). Memory: peak during a 4,096-token prompt. Quality: how often the version picks the same next word as a near-lossless 8-bit copy (top-1 match), plus 10 short questions with one right answer.", | |
| "source_note": "Entered from the factory report as posted on the day; the full result files are on the Mac mini. Rows marked 'about' will be exact after the next run.", | |
| "takeaway": "the standard 4-bit build is still the best tradeoff. Speed tracks how many bits each weight uses, and below 4 bits quality drops sharply. Next to try: DWQ 3-bit.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit (what we serve)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 99.7, | |
| "peak_gb": 4.13, | |
| "quality": 0.865, | |
| "perplexity": 14.6, | |
| "checks": "10/10" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "mxfp4", | |
| "label": "MXFP4 (4-bit float)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": null, | |
| "speed_text": "about 104", | |
| "delta_text": "+4%", | |
| "perplexity_text": "about 15.2", | |
| "quality": null, | |
| "verdict": "no gain", | |
| "why": "4% faster but 4% worse quality" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-g32", | |
| "label": "4-bit, finer groups (g32)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": null, | |
| "speed_text": "about 91", | |
| "delta_text": "-9%", | |
| "perplexity": 14.54, | |
| "quality": null, | |
| "verdict": "slower", | |
| "why": "slightly better quality, 9% slower" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "mixed-3-6", | |
| "label": "Mixed 3/6-bit", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "speed_text": "13-20% faster", | |
| "memory_text": "9-13% less", | |
| "perplexity_text": "+31-36%", | |
| "verdict": "worse", | |
| "why": "too lossy" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q3-g64", | |
| "label": "3-bit", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "speed_text": "13-20% faster", | |
| "memory_text": "9-13% less", | |
| "perplexity_text": "+31-36%", | |
| "checks": "9/10", | |
| "verdict": "worse", | |
| "why": "too lossy, 1 wrong answer" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served-kv8", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit + 8-bit attention memory", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "speed_text": "same", | |
| "verdict": "no gain", | |
| "why": "no difference on short chats" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q8-reference", | |
| "label": "8-bit copy (quality yardstick, not served)", | |
| "role": "reference", | |
| "tps": 57.0, | |
| "quality": 1.0, | |
| "verdict": "reference", | |
| "why": "more bits, slower" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "task-qwen35-4b-gsm8k-apple-m5-pro-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "task", | |
| "order": 15, | |
| "model": "Qwen3.5-4B (Smarty), GSM8K math", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3.5-4B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-05", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (GSM8K, 500 problems right)", | |
| "test": "500 GSM8K grade-school math problems (openai/gsm8k test, seed 0), the same for every version, served the way Smarty Pants serves Smarty: thinking off, greedy, up to 1,024 tokens. DWQ builds: mlx-lm DWQ, 1,024 samples, group size 64. A version is better only with more right answers at McNemar p < 0.05; faster counts only if the 95% interval of the accuracy change stays above -2 points. Script: scripts/model-factory/benchcheck.py.", | |
| "takeaway": "neither DWQ build beats the one we serve. 3-bit DWQ is about 20% faster and 13% smaller but gets about 5 points fewer right; 4-bit DWQ is no different. The served build stays. We keep negative results on the page.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit (what we serve)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 99.7, | |
| "peak_gb": 4.13, | |
| "quality": 0.89 | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "dwq-3-g64", | |
| "label": "DWQ 3-bit (tuned to copy the full model)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 120.1, | |
| "peak_gb": 3.62, | |
| "quality": 0.836, | |
| "paired": "+14 / -41 (p < 0.001)", | |
| "verdict": "worse", | |
| "why": "faster and smaller, but 2.5 to 8.3 points fewer right" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "dwq-4-g64", | |
| "label": "DWQ 4-bit (tuned to copy the full model)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 100.4, | |
| "peak_gb": 4.13, | |
| "quality": 0.884, | |
| "paired": "+20 / -23 (p = 0.76)", | |
| "verdict": "no gain", | |
| "why": "same speed, no real difference in right answers" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "task-qwen35-4b-draft-ahead-apple-m5-pro-64-gb-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "task", | |
| "order": 16, | |
| "model": "Qwen3.5-4B (Smarty), draft-ahead decoding", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3.5-4B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-05", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (GSM8K, 500 problems right)", | |
| "test": "draft-ahead (speculative) decoding: a small guesser model, mlx-community/Qwen3.5-0.8B-MLX-4bit, proposes 2 or 4 words and Smarty checks them in one pass. Same 500 GSM8K problems and served settings as above (thinking off, greedy, up to 1,024 tokens); the standard build was timed again in the same sitting. Guesses accepted: 85% (2 at a time), 76% (4 at a time).", | |
| "takeaway": "no win yet. Guessing 4 ahead is 10% faster with the same right answers, but it needs 18% more memory, and our rule allows at most 5% more. Guessing 2 ahead is slower.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit (what we serve)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 95.9, | |
| "peak_gb": 2.9, | |
| "quality": 0.89 | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served-draft4", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit + guess 4 words ahead", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 105.2, | |
| "peak_gb": 3.43, | |
| "quality": 0.888, | |
| "paired": "+4 / -5 (p = 1.0)", | |
| "verdict": "no gain", | |
| "why": "10% faster, same right answers, but 18% more memory" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served-draft2", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit + guess 2 words ahead", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 93.2, | |
| "peak_gb": 3.43, | |
| "quality": 0.882, | |
| "paired": "+4 / -8 (p = 0.39)", | |
| "verdict": "slower", | |
| "why": "3% slower and 18% more memory" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "factory-qwen38-27b-apple-m5-pro-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "factory", | |
| "recipe": "qwen38-27b", | |
| "order": 20, | |
| "model": "Qwen 3.8 27B", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-02", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (top-1 match vs 8-bit)", | |
| "test": "Speed: output tokens per second on a short chat (median of 3 after a warm-up). Memory: peak during a 4,096-token prompt. Quality: how often the version picks the same next word as a near-lossless 8-bit copy (top-1 match), plus 10 short questions with one right answer. mlx 0.32.4.", | |
| "source_note": "Entered from the factory report as posted on the day; the full result files are on the Mac mini. Rows marked 'about' will be exact after the next run.", | |
| "takeaway": "the standard 4-bit build runs well on a 32 GB+ Mac; neither tested change helped.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit (mlx-community)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 35.7, | |
| "peak_gb": 18.26, | |
| "disk_gb": 16.05, | |
| "quality": 0.909, | |
| "perplexity": 7.949, | |
| "checks": "10/10" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "mixed-3-6", | |
| "label": "Mixed 3/6-bit", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "speed_text": "slower", | |
| "verdict": "worse", | |
| "why": "slower and lower quality" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served-kv8", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit + 8-bit attention memory", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "speed_text": "same", | |
| "verdict": "no gain", | |
| "why": "no difference on short chats" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q8-reference", | |
| "label": "8-bit copy (quality yardstick, not served)", | |
| "role": "reference", | |
| "quality": 1.0, | |
| "perplexity": 7.669, | |
| "verdict": "reference", | |
| "why": "quality yardstick" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "task-qwen38-27b-draft-ahead-apple-m5-pro-64-gb-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "task", | |
| "order": 21, | |
| "model": "Qwen 3.8 27B, draft-ahead decoding", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-06", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (GSM8K, 200 problems right)", | |
| "test": "draft-ahead (speculative) decoding: the small mlx-community/Qwen3.5-0.8B-MLX-4bit guesses 4 words at a time and Qwen 3.8 27B checks them in one pass; 76% of guesses were kept. 200 GSM8K problems, the same for both, measured with mlx-lm in Python, greedy, thinking off, up to 1,024 tokens. The standard build was timed again in the same sitting, with serving paused (this sitting's standard speed is lower than the 35.7 tok/s chat test above, which used a different prompt and length).", | |
| "takeaway": "draft-ahead made Qwen 3.8 27B 81% faster with the same right answers and only 3% more memory, the first speed-up to beat a standard build on this page.", | |
| "caution": "Important: this gain was measured greedy with thinking off. When our Mac app served it live at its default settings (temperature 0.6, thinking on), we did not see the speed-up, so the app has draft-ahead turned off again while we find out why. Do not expect this speed from Smarty Pants today.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit (mlx-community)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 17.8, | |
| "peak_gb": 15.8, | |
| "quality": 0.915 | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-served-draft4", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit + guess 4 words ahead (test only, off in the app)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 32.2, | |
| "peak_gb": 16.31, | |
| "quality": 0.915, | |
| "paired": "+1 / -1 (p = 1.0)", | |
| "verdict": "faster", | |
| "why": "81% faster, same right answers, 3% more memory (in this test setup; not yet in the live app)" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "task-qwen38-27b-gsm8k-full-apple-m5-pro-64-gb-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "task", | |
| "order": 22, | |
| "model": "Qwen 3.8 27B, smaller tuned build", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-08", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (GSM8K, all 1,319 problems right)", | |
| "test": "the full GSM8K test (1,319 problems), the same for both, served the way Smarty Pants serves it: thinking off, greedy, up to 1,024 tokens. Better needs answers as good (95% interval of the accuracy change above -2 points) plus at least 10% faster or 10% less memory. In the Mac app's own code, at temperature 0.6 with thinking on, the smaller build also ran faster: 20.3 vs 17.6 tok/s.", | |
| "takeaway": "the smaller tuned build gives the same answers (94.6% vs 94.8%, no real difference) while running 15% faster on 15% less memory, so it fits more Macs.", | |
| "credit": "the 3.80-bits-per-weight DWQ build is by AtomicChat ([AtomicChat/Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-AD-3.80bpw-DWQ-13.7GB](https://huggingface.co/AtomicChat/Qwen3.8-27B-MLX-AD-3.80bpw-DWQ-13.7GB), revision 9fa7ab0); we tested it.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit (mlx-community, revision 10c35ca)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 17.7, | |
| "peak_gb": 15.88, | |
| "quality": 0.948 | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "dwq38", | |
| "label": "AtomicChat 3.80-bit DWQ (tuned to copy the full model)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 20.4, | |
| "peak_gb": 13.52, | |
| "quality": 0.946, | |
| "paired": "+22 / -25 (p = 0.77)", | |
| "verdict": "faster", | |
| "why": "15% faster and 15% less memory, answers as good (-1.2 to +0.8 points)" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "factory-arete-27b-apple-m5-pro-64-gb-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "factory", | |
| "recipe": "arete-27b", | |
| "order": 23, | |
| "model": "Arete 27B (NousResearch)", | |
| "upstream": "NousResearch/Arete-27B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-09", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (top-1 match vs 8-bit)", | |
| "test": "Speed: output tokens per second on a short chat (median of 3 after a warm-up). Memory: peak during a 4,096-token prompt. Quality: how often the version picks the same next word as a near-lossless 8-bit copy (top-1 match), plus 10 short questions with one right answer. The yardstick is a community 8-bit copy (pjain001/arete-27b-8bit-mlx); bf16 did not fit the Mac's free disk. Also checked on 300 GSM8K math problems (thinking off, greedy, up to 1,024 tokens): the 4-bit build got 94.3% right.", | |
| "takeaway": "the 4-bit build passes: 10/10 checks, 94.3% on GSM8K (in line with Qwen 3.8 27B, which it is fine-tuned from), 35.5 tok/s and an 18.3 GB peak. That fits 32 GB+ Macs comfortably and 24 GB Macs only tightly.", | |
| "credit": "Arete 27B is by NousResearch (Apache-2.0); the 4-bit MLX build is by Duckets ([Duckets/Arete-27B-MLX-4bit](https://huggingface.co/Duckets/Arete-27B-MLX-4bit), revision bd3f716).", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-duckets", | |
| "label": "4-bit (Duckets MLX build)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 35.5, | |
| "peak_gb": 18.26, | |
| "quality": 0.899, | |
| "perplexity": 8.34, | |
| "checks": "10/10" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q8-reference", | |
| "label": "8-bit copy (quality yardstick, not served)", | |
| "role": "reference", | |
| "tps": 11.6, | |
| "peak_gb": 30.87, | |
| "quality": 1.0, | |
| "perplexity": 8.059, | |
| "checks": "9/10", | |
| "verdict": "reference", | |
| "why": "quality yardstick" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "factory-qwen36-35b-a3b-apple-m5-pro-64-gb-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "factory", | |
| "recipe": "qwen36-35b-a3b", | |
| "order": 25, | |
| "model": "Qwen3.6-35B-A3B", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-07", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (top-1 match vs 6-bit)", | |
| "test": "Speed: output tokens per second on a short chat (median of 3 after a warm-up). Memory: peak during a 4,096-token prompt. Quality: how often the version picks the same next word as a 6-bit copy (the quality yardstick here) (top-1 match), plus 10 short questions with one right answer. mlx 0.32.4, mlx-lm 0.32.2.", | |
| "takeaway": "the standard 4-bit build passes all 10 checks at about 158 tok/s and 21.5 GB, so it fits Macs with 48 GB or more. Mixed 3/4-bit saves memory but loses too much quality.", | |
| "caution": "Our own 4-bit build timed 34% faster than the community build, but that is unconfirmed: it has the same bits and memory, and the community build was timed right after a long download. We will rerun it before relying on it.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-mlx-community", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit (mlx-community)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 157.8, | |
| "peak_gb": 21.49, | |
| "disk_gb": 20.4, | |
| "quality": 0.863, | |
| "perplexity": 11.827, | |
| "checks": "10/10" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4-ours", | |
| "label": "4-bit, our own build", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 210.7, | |
| "peak_gb": 21.49, | |
| "disk_gb": 19.51, | |
| "quality": 0.862, | |
| "perplexity": 11.8, | |
| "checks": "10/10", | |
| "verdict": "unconfirmed", | |
| "why": "timed 34% faster with the same quality; needs a repeat run" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "mixed-3-4", | |
| "label": "Mixed 3/4-bit", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 118.0, | |
| "peak_gb": 17.89, | |
| "disk_gb": 15.9, | |
| "quality": 0.762, | |
| "perplexity": 13.43, | |
| "checks": "10/10", | |
| "verdict": "worse", | |
| "why": "17% less memory, but 25% slower and perplexity +13.5%" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q6-reference", | |
| "label": "6-bit copy (quality yardstick, not served)", | |
| "role": "reference", | |
| "tps": 119.6, | |
| "peak_gb": 30.15, | |
| "disk_gb": 28.17, | |
| "quality": 1.0, | |
| "perplexity": 11.139, | |
| "checks": "10/10", | |
| "verdict": "reference", | |
| "why": "quality yardstick" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "task-axion-1-0-35b-apple-m5-pro-64-gb-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "task", | |
| "order": 26, | |
| "model": "Axion 1.0 35B", | |
| "upstream": "Axion1-0/Axion-1.0-35B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-11", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (GSM8K, 300 problems right)", | |
| "test": "300 GSM8K math problems, thinking off, greedy, up to 2,048 tokens. Single build tested (no yardstick copy).", | |
| "takeaway": "passes: 92.3% right at 74.7 tok/s and a 21.1 GB peak, so it fits Macs with 32 GB or more. For comparison on the same test: Qwen 3.8 27B 94.6% (all 1,319 problems), Arete 27B 94.3% at 35.5 tok/s.", | |
| "credit": "Axion 1.0 35B is by Axion1-0 (Apache-2.0); the UD 4-bit MLX build is by NapYang ([NapYang/Axion-1.0-35B-UD-MLX-4bit-fp16](https://huggingface.co/NapYang/Axion-1.0-35B-UD-MLX-4bit-fp16), revision be0c767).", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "ud4", | |
| "label": "UD 4-bit (NapYang MLX build)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 74.7, | |
| "peak_gb": 21.09, | |
| "quality": 0.923 | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "factory-gpt-oss-20b-apple-m5-pro-64-gb-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "factory", | |
| "recipe": "gpt-oss-20b", | |
| "order": 27, | |
| "model": "gpt-oss-20b", | |
| "upstream": "openai/gpt-oss-20b", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-08", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (top-1 match vs yardstick)", | |
| "test": "Speed: output tokens per second on a short chat (median of 3 after a warm-up). Memory: peak during a 4,096-token prompt. Quality: how often the version picks the same next word as our yardstick copy (top-1 match), plus 10 short questions with one right answer. mlx 0.32.4, mlx-lm 0.32.2.", | |
| "caution": "The yardstick is not a true 8-bit copy: the converter kept OpenAI's own 4-bit expert weights, so it came out at 4.6 bits per weight. Quality here means closeness to a near-original copy, not to a higher-precision one.", | |
| "takeaway": "both community 4-bit builds run at about 100 tok/s and peak at 12-13 GB, so they fit 24 GB Macs. OptiQ is a trade-off rather than a win: much closer to the original (top-1 85.8% vs 66.6%, 9/10 checks vs 7/10) for 6% less speed. A math accuracy test comes next.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "mxfp4-q4", | |
| "label": "MXFP4-Q4 (mlx-community)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 106.1, | |
| "peak_gb": 12.12, | |
| "disk_gb": 11.18, | |
| "quality": 0.666, | |
| "perplexity": 30.92, | |
| "checks": "7/10" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "optiq-4bit", | |
| "label": "OptiQ 4-bit (mlx-community)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 99.3, | |
| "peak_gb": 12.57, | |
| "disk_gb": 11.62, | |
| "quality": 0.858, | |
| "perplexity": 28.68, | |
| "checks": "9/10", | |
| "verdict": "trade-off", | |
| "why": "much closer to the original and 2 more checks right, 6% slower, 0.45 GB more" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "yardstick", | |
| "label": "Our convert (yardstick, 4.6 bits/weight, not served)", | |
| "role": "reference", | |
| "tps": 85.7, | |
| "peak_gb": 12.99, | |
| "disk_gb": 12.08, | |
| "quality": 1.0, | |
| "perplexity": 28.1, | |
| "checks": "8/10", | |
| "verdict": "reference", | |
| "why": "quality yardstick" | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "speed-qwen3-6-35b-a3b-apple-m3-max-36-gb", | |
| "kind": "factory", | |
| "order": 30, | |
| "model": "Qwen3.6-35B-A3B", | |
| "upstream": "mlx-community/Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-4bit", | |
| "mac": "Apple M3 Max, 36 GB (MacBook Pro)", | |
| "measured": "2026-09-08", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality", | |
| "test": "speed only: one request at a time, 500 to 4,096-token prompts, 128 tokens out, mlx-vlm 0.7.0. With 8 requests at once the Mac produced 193 tok/s in total. No quality test yet.", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "q4", | |
| "label": "Standard 4-bit (mlx-community)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 61.4, | |
| "peak_gb": 21.52, | |
| "checks": null | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "task-qwen3-reranker-0-6b-apple-m5-pro-64-gb-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "task", | |
| "order": 40, | |
| "model": "Qwen3 Reranker 0.6B", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3-Reranker-0.6B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro, 64 GB (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-09", | |
| "speed_name": "Speed (pairs/s, batch 8)", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (NDCG@10 / MRR@10)", | |
| "extra_name": "Same top pick as bf16", | |
| "test": "reranking 150 queries (3,000 query-document pairs) from mteb/askubuntudupquestions-reranking; score = probability of \"yes\" after Qwen's reranker prompt. Speed is pairs per second at batch size 8 over a short window, so treat it as rough (batch 1: bf16 68.8, mxfp8 51.9, ours 48.4; batch 32: 138.2, 95.1, 93.6).", | |
| "takeaway": "a trade-off, not a win. On a 0.6B model the 8-bit builds save only about 0.6 GB and are not faster overall; ranking quality differences are within noise. The bf16 build is the one we serve. Our 8-bit build agrees with bf16 on the top pick far more often than the mxfp8 build (96% vs 85%).", | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "bf16", | |
| "label": "bf16 (official Qwen release)", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 135.4, | |
| "peak_gb": 3.075, | |
| "quality_text": "0.682 / 0.748" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "mxfp8", | |
| "label": "mxfp8 (mlx-community)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 151.8, | |
| "peak_gb": 2.498, | |
| "quality_text": "0.677 / 0.745", | |
| "paired": "84.7%", | |
| "verdict": "trade-off", | |
| "why": "0.6 GB less memory; faster at batch 8 but slower at batch 1 and 32" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "q8-affine", | |
| "label": "8-bit, our own build (group 64, not released)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 84.3, | |
| "peak_gb": 2.517, | |
| "quality_text": "0.684 / 0.753", | |
| "paired": "96.0%", | |
| "verdict": "trade-off", | |
| "why": "0.6 GB less memory, closest to bf16, but slower" | |
| } | |
| ], | |
| "speed_unit": "pairs/s" | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "edit-qwen3-5-0-8b-apple-m5-pro-mac-mini", | |
| "kind": "edit", | |
| "model": "Qwen3.5-0.8B", | |
| "upstream": "Qwen/Qwen3.5-0.8B", | |
| "mac": "Apple M5 Pro (Mac mini)", | |
| "measured": "2026-11-04", | |
| "quality_name": "Quality (MATH-500, 30 problems)", | |
| "test": "30 MATH-500 math problems (seeded random pick), thinking on, up to 32,768 tokens, MIT's sampling settings, 1 answer per problem, graded with math-verify 0.9.0 by MIT's rule. Runs on MLX in bfloat16 rather than vLLM, so single answers are not comparable one to one with MIT's.", | |
| "caution": null, | |
| "rows": [ | |
| { | |
| "id": "original", | |
| "label": "Qwen3.5-0.8B, original", | |
| "role": "base", | |
| "tps": 120.0, | |
| "peak_gb": 2.216, | |
| "quality": 0.07, | |
| "finished": 0.07, | |
| "loop": 0.87 | |
| }, | |
| { | |
| "id": "edited", | |
| "label": "Qwen3.5-0.8B + MIT CSAIL's p50c weight edit (reproduced)", | |
| "role": "version", | |
| "tps": 120.0, | |
| "peak_gb": 2.188, | |
| "quality": 0.33, | |
| "finished": 0.6, | |
| "loop": 0.03, | |
| "verdict": "better", | |
| "why": "finished 60% of answers (was 7%), ended in a loop 3% (was 87%)" | |
| } | |
| ], | |
| "order": 40, | |
| "takeaway": "the edit changes 0.016% of the weights. On our Mac it cut loops from 87% to 3% and raised correct answers from 7% to 33%, with no change in speed or memory. Problem by problem, the edited model got 8 right that the original missed and lost none (sign test p ≈ 0.008). MIT reports 7.9% to 48.1% on all 500 problems with 4 answers each.", | |
| "credit": "this is a reproduction of MIT CSAIL's published edit (Takehi, Teoh, Zhang and Khattab, [weight-space programming](https://rikiyat.github.io/blog/weight-space-programming), edit and evaluation code from [RikiyaT/lm_understand-logs](https://github.com/RikiyaT/lm_understand-logs)). Smarty Pants did not make this edit; we rebuilt it bit for bit, hash-checked it and measured it on a Mac." | |
| } | |
| ] | |
| } | |