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<@Kelsey> there is a slight improvement on the <@Garrett> solution which will have a better performance for *long* `details['key']` lists. You can replace the outer list in `any` call with generator. This way the iteration will stop on the first appearance of 999. On average, it will be twice as fast as with list.
2018-01-11T14:12:47.000259
Jeanie
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<@Jeanie> ahh thanks, thats helpful
2018-01-11T14:23:19.000186
Kelsey
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<@Jeanie> ahhh thanks, helpful
2018-01-11T14:23:39.000172
Kelsey
pythondev_help_Kelsey_2018-01-11T14:23:39.000172
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quick question on print statements: I'm trying to print out some variables and some helper text using ".ljust". Is there any way of combining .format with .ljust?
2018-01-11T14:28:21.000485
Sandra
pythondev_help_Sandra_2018-01-11T14:28:21.000485
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``` for t in transactions.keys(): cp = round(transactions[t].current_price, 8) pp = round(transactions[t]['purchase_price'], 8) q = transactions[t]['quantity'] pc = round(transactions[t]['percent_change'], 2) dc = round(transactions[t]['dollar_change'], 2) mv = round(transactions[t]['mkt_valu...
2018-01-11T14:29:58.000551
Sandra
pythondev_help_Sandra_2018-01-11T14:29:58.000551
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This is what I have, and it's super ugly and long.
2018-01-11T14:30:12.000005
Sandra
pythondev_help_Sandra_2018-01-11T14:30:12.000005
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<https://docs.python.org/3.4/library/string.html#formatspec> maybe something there
2018-01-11T14:30:22.000852
Micki
pythondev_help_Micki_2018-01-11T14:30:22.000852
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Does anyone know if it's possible for `pytest` to ignore a file pattern when doing test discovery?
2018-01-11T14:33:08.000086
Len
pythondev_help_Len_2018-01-11T14:33:08.000086
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emacs and flycheck create temporary files ".flycheck_&lt;recently_edited_file&gt;.py" that pytest will pick up if I run it too quickly after editing a file.
2018-01-11T14:34:19.000478
Len
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there is `--ignore` option
2018-01-11T14:45:10.000050
Lakita
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okay ill check it out. do u have any other ideas?
2018-01-11T14:51:15.000219
Sandra
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Can anyone spot an error with this code if its py3 ``` def sendResponse(self): self.sendLine("HTTP/1.1 200 OK") self.sendLine("") responseBody = "You said:\r\n\r" + "\r\n".join(self.lines) self.transport.write(responseBody) self.transport.loseConnection() ```
2018-01-11T15:17:40.000304
Niesha
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My traceback error is this ``` File "C:/Users/jessica/PycharmProjects/Twisted/chapter4/4.1webecho.py", line 20, in lineReceived self.sendResponse() File "C:/Users/jessica/PycharmProjects/Twisted/chapter4/4.1webecho.py", line 23, in sendResponse self.sendLine("HTTP/1.1 200 OK") File "C:\Users\jessica\AppDat...
2018-01-11T15:18:14.000069
Niesha
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On initial glance I'd assume it has to do with the change in python 3 so that str automatically supports unicode but not sure what's causing the specific error
2018-01-11T15:23:14.000015
Leanora
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<@Leanora> I tried adding .encode and changing the formats of teh strings but I could not seem to quite get the error to go away.
2018-01-11T15:25:04.000473
Niesha
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You said "but not sure what's causing the specific error" I know that the line 635 is referring to the interhited function "sendLine" but all I get from that is the def
2018-01-11T15:26:15.000313
Niesha
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``` def sendLine(self, line): """ Sends a line to the other end of the connection. @param line: The line to send, not including the delimiter. @type line: C{bytes} """ return self.transport.write(line + self.delimiter)```
2018-01-11T15:26:46.000130
Niesha
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which is this
2018-01-11T15:26:49.000152
Niesha
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<@Niesha> what is the value of `self.delimiter`. The line you are sending in is a str, if the delimiter is bytes you could get the error
2018-01-11T15:41:11.000533
Jeanie
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@joe no dice.
2018-01-11T15:41:40.000378
Niesha
pythondev_help_Niesha_2018-01-11T15:41:40.000378
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Hellos peoples !! Does anyone know where I can find a tutorial about Django Rest Framework and Cloudinary? I basically I try to do this, but I got this error that I have put in the question. `<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48068898/django-rest-framework-and-cloudinary?noredirect=1#comment83122267_48068898>`
2018-01-11T15:41:57.000441
Dedra
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self.delimeter......... That is a good question. how would i figure that out? THat is part of the definiton in the parent class <@Jeanie>
2018-01-11T15:42:45.000058
Niesha
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Yes, it is an attribute of the base.
2018-01-11T15:43:18.000015
Jeanie
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<@Lakita> As far as I could tell, --ignore doesn't respect a regex or any other pattern, only the exact filename.
2018-01-11T15:43:24.000185
Len
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oh, I thought that you can use Linux wildcards etc.
2018-01-11T15:44:59.000476
Lakita
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<@Niesha> what is the version of Twisted you have installed?
2018-01-11T15:45:22.000561
Jeanie
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I don't know I use py3.
2018-01-11T15:45:33.000226
Niesha
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<https://pypi.org/project/Twisted/>
2018-01-11T15:46:07.000149
Niesha
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`pip freeze | grep Twisted` or in Pycharm open Preferences-&gt;Project Interpreter
2018-01-11T15:46:40.000158
Jeanie
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<@Dedra> <#C0LMFRMB5|django> would probably be a better place for your question, a lot of django folk over there
2018-01-11T15:47:03.000249
Brande
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Thanks <@Brande>
2018-01-11T15:47:35.000132
Dedra
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a later version of Twisted and my recommendation of prefixing the string with b to change it to bytes should work <@Niesha>
2018-01-11T15:49:05.000724
Brande
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it’s what <@Leanora> mentioned of python3 being unicode strings, and this is expecting a bytestring
2018-01-11T15:50:29.000146
Brande
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After painful realizations that I need to learn to read error logs better and know types better. I realized that this is the right thing and that self.lines is a list and thats why it can't be prefixed with a b.
2018-01-11T17:27:49.000443
Niesha
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``` def sendResponse(self): self.sendLine(b"HTTP/1.1 200 OK") self.sendLine(b"") responseBody = b'You said:\r\n\r' + b'\r\n'.join(self.lines) self.transport.write(responseBody) self.transport.loseConnection()```
2018-01-11T17:27:56.000229
Niesha
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<@Brande> <@Jeanie> but ya you guys were right i just was not placing them correct
2018-01-11T17:28:20.000014
Niesha
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Hmm, I couldn't get it to work with `--ignore`. That said, I did find a way. You can create a `pytest.ini` and add `python_files=[!.]*_test.py`
2018-01-11T19:20:13.000154
Len
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That will ignore all test files starting with a `.`
2018-01-11T19:20:28.000325
Len
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Which is what I needed :smiley:
2018-01-11T19:20:33.000214
Len
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is there a way to flush any contents that might be readable in a file descriptor?
2018-01-11T22:33:30.000158
Shante
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I don't care about capturing the output, I'm just grabbing a few bytes to see if anything is there and then I want to flush the rest to clear the buffer out so the next time I loop around I can check again if something is there
2018-01-11T22:34:15.000158
Shante
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Do you have to read those bytes or can you use <https://docs.python.org/2/library/os.path.html#os.path.isfile>
2018-01-11T23:10:03.000251
Dominica
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For 3.6: <https://docs.python.org/3.6/library/os.path.html#os.path.isfile>
2018-01-11T23:10:42.000169
Dominica
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So py3 doesn't use the method "has_key" <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1323410/has-key-or-in?noredirect=1&amp;lq=1>
2018-01-12T01:07:10.000226
Niesha
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so i am using "in"
2018-01-12T01:07:20.000176
Niesha
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fixed now: ```class MyRequestHandler(http.Request): resources = { '/': '&lt;h1&gt;Home&lt;/h1&gt;Home Page', '/about': '&lt;h1&gt;All about me', } def process(self): self.setHeader('Content-Type', 'text/html') if self.path in self.resources: self.writ...
2018-01-12T01:07:36.000116
Niesha
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My error taht I am getting now is:
2018-01-12T01:07:52.000066
Niesha
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```if self.resources in (self.path): builtins.TypeError: a bytes-like object is required, not 'dict'```
2018-01-12T01:08:26.000238
Niesha
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I bet it should be `if self.path in self.resources`
2018-01-12T01:08:55.000070
Aleida
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So is self.resources a dictionary and I should change it to bytes?
2018-01-12T01:09:12.000088
Niesha
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<@Aleida> I will try that.
2018-01-12T01:09:24.000076
Niesha
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Oh, and `self.path` is somehow bytes, not str
2018-01-12T01:09:36.000158
Aleida
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Are you trying to implement your own http server from scratch?
2018-01-12T01:10:04.000109
Aleida
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yes. but from scratch not really I am using the twisted o reily book.
2018-01-12T01:10:30.000148
Niesha
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I'd rather suggest to read the source code of an existing implementation if you want to learn how HTTP works behind the scenes
2018-01-12T01:11:24.000178
Aleida
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Writing your own HTTP server is... scary at least
2018-01-12T01:11:36.000114
Aleida
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I'm trying ot learn the fundametnals of networking.
2018-01-12T01:13:00.000034
Niesha
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Also <@Aleida> how did you get the intuition for switching around the self.path and self.resources
2018-01-12T01:13:45.000125
Niesha
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Because the syntax for checking if a key is in a dictionary is `if key in dict`, not the other way around
2018-01-12T01:14:32.000205
Aleida
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Okay ya that makes sense. thank you.
2018-01-12T01:14:52.000241
Niesha
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and why is writing my own HTTP server scary <@Aleida>?
2018-01-12T01:15:07.000130
Niesha
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Because HTTP is scary, with all its inconsistencies and weird edge cases
2018-01-12T01:16:11.000190
Aleida
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It states to be a text-based protocol, but it uses a bytes-oriented wire (TCP) so you have to send and receive bytes, not say unicode
2018-01-12T01:17:08.000132
Aleida
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That's why you always need to think about encodings
2018-01-12T01:17:26.000084
Aleida
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ya ihave been learning a lot of that. lol is that why they call this book "TWISTED"
2018-01-12T01:17:33.000026
Niesha
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Even your example won't work because keys of `self.resources` are strings (i.e. unicode), but `self.path` is bytes
2018-01-12T01:18:02.000010
Aleida
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umm i mean it worked
2018-01-12T01:18:27.000035
Niesha
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I can send you the full code if you would like to see.
2018-01-12T01:18:36.000130
Niesha
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And you need to choose if you're going to `self.path.decode('utf-8')` before checking its presence in the dictionary, or you need to put bytes as keys in `self.resources` instead of strings
2018-01-12T01:19:04.000135
Aleida
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it's ambitious. You're learning python, networking, and trying to build a web server at the same time. Normally people write tic-tac-toe or play w/ a switch. You're shooting for the :star:, wanting to recreate apache, that's all. :slightly_smiling_face:
2018-01-12T01:20:31.000201
Dominica
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hey, more power to you <@Niesha>. And you know you can always ask people here for help. <@Aleida> is probably one of the best here.
2018-01-12T01:21:13.000071
Dominica
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I'd say if you really want to learn networking, you should start from something simpler than a HTTP server. Maybe even a custom protocol, just to feel how bytes are floating around
2018-01-12T01:22:14.000101
Aleida
pythondev_help_Aleida_2018-01-12T01:22:14.000101
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An echo server is a good example of such custom protocol
2018-01-12T01:22:31.000057
Aleida
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```from twisted.internet import protocol, reactor class Echo(protocol.Protocol): def dataReceived(self, data): self.transport.write(data) class EchoFactory(protocol.Factory): def buildProtocol(self, addr): return Echo() reactor.listenTCP(6942, EchoFactory()) reactor.run() ```
2018-01-12T01:23:40.000027
Niesha
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I was studying this echo server the other day.
2018-01-12T01:23:48.000105
Niesha
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Thank you <@Dominica> <@Aleida>
2018-01-12T01:24:29.000088
Niesha
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<@Dominica> I have an internship that starts in a week and i am not sure how intensive on teh networking side they are but I know they need me to know python and a the fundamentals of networking. I so I have to try my best and just figure out what i can.
2018-01-12T01:26:31.000115
Niesha
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<@Niesha> once you have the echo server up an running, you can start to complicate things :slightly_smiling_face: Instead of just echoing, make a parametrized echo server. Then make a calculator. Then make a remote procedure call server
2018-01-12T01:27:45.000133
Aleida
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But all with just bytes
2018-01-12T01:27:50.000095
Aleida
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Once you've familiarised yourself with bytes, only then you can start looking at more sophisticated protocols like HTTP
2018-01-12T01:28:20.000247
Aleida
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<@Aleida> that sounds like a good learning exercise.
2018-01-12T01:28:21.000146
Niesha
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LIke I said, you have a huge community here that you can lean on for help. No shortage of experts. If that's what you want to do, no one here will be an anchor. There's just a lot going on under the hood for everything that you are tying together. To speed up the process, you might also want to start popping in during...
2018-01-12T01:30:46.000086
Dominica
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but <@Aleida> when you but with all just bytes that makes me think c and non basic and makes me think maybe not the best for trying to get fundamentals of networking? Where do you think i should start with making a parametrized echo server.
2018-01-12T01:33:01.000003
Niesha
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Heh, the most fundamental think about networking is that you always work with bytes, and these bytes can be sent and received partially :slightly_smiling_face:
2018-01-12T01:34:23.000158
Aleida
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GL &amp; GN guys
2018-01-12T01:36:55.000241
Dominica
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<@Niesha> maybe you need a different way of learning networking? Do you understand what is an IP address? A port? A domain name? How ip packets are routed? How two or more computers can talk to each other in a local network?
2018-01-12T01:37:54.000020
Aleida
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Through programming a bit and readding through this book I think i have a good understanding of IP Adresses Ports domanin names. maybe not "how Ip packed are routed"
2018-01-12T01:41:14.000221
Niesha
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and i did an excersie in this book creating chat servers which helped me understand how two or more computers talk to each other in a local network.
2018-01-12T01:41:53.000030
Niesha
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<@Aleida>
2018-01-12T01:42:07.000055
Niesha
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glad to hear that! :slightly_smiling_face:
2018-01-12T02:25:55.000081
Lakita
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Hello! Does somebody know an answer to following question? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48211784/best-way-to-use-python-dotenv-with-pytest>
2018-01-12T05:11:18.000494
Cyndy
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Hello Team,I'm trying to send emails from Jenkins using the groovy script. My problem is that emails are going to some distribution lists while they're not going to other DLs. Here is a code snippet: emailext ( subject: subject, body: content, to: '<mailto:a.b@x.com|a.b@x.com>, <mailto:c.d@x.com|c.d@x....
2018-01-12T05:30:39.000074
Kathleen
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On Ubuntu 16.04, I am experiencing failures installing via `pip` without using `sudo -H`. Can anyone point me to somewhere that can help me figure out why? I see so much talk in the forums that sudo should never be used with pip that I am a little leary of using it.
2018-01-12T09:42:18.000066
Adan
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Hi :wave: . You should look into `virtualenvrionment` see <https://packaging.python.org/guides/installing-using-pip-and-virtualenv/>
2018-01-12T09:43:58.000004
Micki
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You’re installing remote packages as root, which is why it’s not an encouraged practice. As <@Micki> said, `virtualenv` is good to use as well, but if you do want to install a package globally and safely, `pip install --user &lt;package&gt;` is the best approach
2018-01-12T09:44:50.000330
Brande
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Thanks <@Micki>! I had seen virtualenv but hadn't used it much really.
2018-01-12T09:44:51.000051
Adan
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thanks <@Brande>
2018-01-12T09:45:14.000021
Adan
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<@Brande> is `--user` literally `--user` or should it be my username?
2018-01-12T09:53:13.000626
Adan
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sorry to be such a noob
2018-01-12T09:53:23.000465
Adan
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<@Adan> literally `--user`
2018-01-12T09:54:23.000392
Brande
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