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Asking because I would like to follow best practices and not come up with a hack that will haunt me later on.
2018-02-27T01:38:12.000093
Hans
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Although in my dict, the `id` value is a number, so I'm surprised that I need conversion.
2018-02-27T01:39:10.000115
Hans
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That would work but you would also want to catch errors in businessId can't be cast to an int
2018-02-27T01:39:25.000136
Lashandra
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Oh.. So to catch errors, it would be better for `businessId` to be a `string`, even though it is entered as an `int`
2018-02-27T01:40:44.000177
Hans
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The best practice way would be to use a regex in the app.route similar to this stack overflow answer <https://stackoverflow.com/a/5872904>
2018-02-27T01:41:13.000107
Lashandra
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Or, I suggest using `flask_restful` `reqparse`. <https://flask-restful.readthedocs.io/en/0.3.5/reqparse.html> so you may define the arguments explicitly.
2018-02-27T01:41:40.000245
Margert
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<@Margert> At this point, I'm not sure that I could handle using a `Flask` package. I'm not yet there. :cry:
2018-02-27T01:43:42.000259
Hans
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aren't you already using flask restful?
2018-02-27T01:44:25.000270
Verline
pythondev_help_Verline_2018-02-27T01:44:25.000270
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Now I’m confused, I merely suggested using `reqparse`. Are you not trying to create a restful api?
2018-02-27T01:45:46.000175
Margert
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<@Verline> no I'm not. I'm building the API with `flask`
2018-02-27T01:45:54.000324
Hans
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<@Margert> yes. But to use `reqparse`, I assume you need to use `flask-restful` right?
2018-02-27T01:46:52.000306
Hans
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I’m pretty sure you’ll do just fine <@Hans>. Try going through the flask tutorial. :slightly_smiling_face:
2018-02-27T01:46:57.000045
Margert
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flask_restful is a really useful set of tools for building apis with flask, I'd highly recommend it, it will make your life easier
2018-02-27T01:47:29.000234
Verline
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<@Margert> I have. So I'm not completely blank, but the issue above is taking forever to solve.
2018-02-27T01:48:13.000047
Hans
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<@Verline> I'll try it and see. When I have time though. Right now I'm in a crunch for time
2018-02-27T01:48:26.000031
Hans
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Check this out <@Hans> <https://flask-restful.readthedocs.io/en/0.3.5/quickstart.html#full-example>
2018-02-27T01:48:28.000146
Margert
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i wish they used HTTPie for their examples rather than curl
2018-02-27T01:49:59.000271
Verline
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HTTPie is so much nicer
2018-02-27T01:50:06.000174
Verline
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Well, curl is used in general and comes pre-installed with most OS. But yes, I do agree that HTTPie is definitely a lot nicer.
2018-02-27T01:52:33.000109
Margert
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Hi. Can someone recommend me a framework for command line development. I am looking into Cement and Cliff. Then there is Python Fire. I was going towards Cement but am not sure if Python Fire is better or not?
2018-02-27T04:54:46.000343
Donya
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I like Click
2018-02-27T04:58:49.000278
Zack
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people seem to like click
2018-02-27T05:06:21.000175
Verline
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I just got a new computer last week, however on my old one I had set up a public key for ssh into my linode server. But when I tried to login to my server from my new machine I was not allowed to, do I need to remove the old key from my old computer? Or can I simply create a new one on my new machine?
2018-02-27T05:16:32.000304
Milo
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you need to recover the key from your old machine, or create a new one on your new machine, and upload the public key to the linode server somehow
2018-02-27T05:17:39.000504
Zack
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if I recall linode has a virtual console, right?
2018-02-27T05:17:47.000313
Zack
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yes the lisp one I think?
2018-02-27T05:18:04.000517
Milo
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It has nothing to do with lisp, you’ll just be looking for a way to get access to the machine without needing a password, basically
2018-02-27T05:18:31.000051
Zack
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well if you still have the old laptop it may be easier to get the key from there
2018-02-27T05:20:29.000310
Micki
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then would I just copy it over?
2018-02-27T05:24:43.000499
Milo
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to your new machine
2018-02-27T05:25:00.000164
Zack
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:point_up:
2018-02-27T05:25:06.000255
Micki
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I agree with <@Micki>, that’s the way to go if you still have access
2018-02-27T05:25:27.000508
Zack
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cool will do that, annoying I don't have the machine with me now :grinning:
2018-02-27T05:26:24.000466
Milo
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thanks <@Micki>:taco: <@Zack> :taco:
2018-02-27T05:27:08.000102
Milo
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I got one more question, not really python related, so can ommit from here if need be, but on this site <http://shewfood.co.uk/> the links don't work in bigger than mobile view which is weird.
2018-02-27T05:39:00.000223
Milo
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Hello together :wave: I joined this group in order to pimp my Python knowledge and I hope I'm at the right place. I'm pretty much a Python beginner coming from a years long Ruby background
2018-02-27T05:43:01.000019
Season
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OK let me check click. <@Zack> <@Verline>
2018-02-27T06:21:02.000268
Donya
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how can I find where the driver for my `ODBC Driver 13 for SQL Server` is?
2018-02-27T06:39:50.000071
Milo
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currently my `odbcinst.ini` file looks like this; ``` [ODBC] Trace = No TraceFile = /tmp/odbc.log [FreeTDS] Description = FreeTDS Driver = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/odbc/libtdsodbc.so Setup = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/odbc/libtdsS.so UsageCount = 1 [ODBC Driver 13 for SQL Server] Description=Microsoft ODBC Driver 1...
2018-02-27T06:40:22.000172
Milo
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This is so confusing I have installed it correctly, but I have no idea where the location of the driver is
2018-02-27T06:57:46.000410
Milo
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Hi guys I'm new in the channel and I would like to ask you if is possible to change an existing web application to multi tenant application if it's possible could you show the documentation
2018-02-27T07:49:00.000496
Logan
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probably. did you build it with an existing framework and if so, is there anything in that framework that would support multi-tenancy?
2018-02-27T07:49:44.000370
Floy
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Yes I did with django
2018-02-27T07:55:38.000439
Logan
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ok, and IIRC there is a django multi-tenancy app
2018-02-27T07:57:49.000368
Floy
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have you looked at that?
2018-02-27T07:57:55.000116
Floy
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No I haven't but now I will
2018-02-27T08:03:33.000361
Logan
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for future reference, <http://djangopackages.org|djangopackages.org> is a great site to check if you’re looking for things to add onto a django project
2018-02-27T08:04:11.000017
Floy
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Thanks a lot for your help
2018-02-27T08:17:31.000127
Logan
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you can easily log the exception with ``` try: # stuff except Exception as e: your_logger.exception(e) ```
2018-02-27T10:42:48.000750
Micki
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no need to use the `traceback` module
2018-02-27T10:43:50.000377
Micki
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or maybe it does other things that I'm not aware of
2018-02-27T10:44:05.000884
Micki
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<@Micki> i guess the `traceback` module is giving us more data or something. or at least that’s what the author thought :slightly_smiling_face:
2018-02-27T10:44:12.000144
Kieth
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is there anyone else who would just not do this refactor?
2018-02-27T10:49:51.000006
Kieth
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and leave the old code as it is?
2018-02-27T10:50:00.000410
Kieth
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<@Kieth> super small but: 2 lines between imports and code, and an extra line should be between your 2 return statements (basically, PEP8)
2018-02-27T10:51:04.000555
Brande
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oh yeah :slightly_smiling_face:
2018-02-27T10:51:39.000385
Kieth
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also you should use `%` for logging over `format()` for lazy evaluation, otherwise it’ll be evaluated each pass
2018-02-27T10:53:20.000554
Brande
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that’s interesting, i didn’t know about that difference
2018-02-27T10:54:09.000999
Kieth
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```<http://exc_logger.info|exc_logger.info>("Suppressed exception caught while running %s: %s", func.__name__, traceback.format_exc())```
2018-02-27T10:54:30.000733
Brande
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first one here: <https://www.simonmweber.com/2014/11/24/python-logging-traps.html>
2018-02-27T10:55:33.000702
Brande
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and I wouldn't log that in info but you do you :slightly_smiling_face:
2018-02-27T10:56:08.000483
Micki
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lol
2018-02-27T10:56:15.000274
Kieth
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i didn’t want to poison the waters, but this is a refactor I am resisting
2018-02-27T10:57:07.000107
Kieth
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i think it just obscures the try/except we’re doing
2018-02-27T10:57:19.000782
Kieth
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at least for me it’s a lot easier to read the inline version
2018-02-27T10:57:30.000312
Kieth
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but i don’t know if that’s just me :stuck_out_tongue:
2018-02-27T10:57:35.000353
Kieth
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well if that gets called more than once, each extra time you’re saving doing all of the try/except logic
2018-02-27T10:58:07.000722
Brande
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was curious so I looked. It seems if you use `log.exception` it automatically find the traceback
2018-02-27T10:58:15.000872
Micki
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but it logged it as an error
2018-02-27T10:58:23.000102
Micki
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that might be why you use `traceback`
2018-02-27T10:58:35.000313
Micki
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<https://docs.python.org/3/library/logging.html#logging.Logger.exception>
2018-02-27T10:58:38.000113
Micki
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and imo a try/except is more noob friendly than the other function
2018-02-27T10:59:10.000273
Micki
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or maybe use it as a decorator to `do_something`
2018-02-27T10:59:38.000648
Micki
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it looks like they already changed it from `info` to `error` in fact
2018-02-27T11:01:31.000551
Kieth
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so i guess `log.exception()` would be identical to what we’re using huh
2018-02-27T11:01:41.000347
Kieth
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<@Brande> check out what happens if you try using the `exc_return_value` keyword: ``` # old code was: try: myvar = do_something("myarg") except: myvar = "alternate" <http://logger.info|logger.info>("Suppressed exception caught while running {}: {}".\ format(func.__name__, traceback.fo...
2018-02-27T11:04:01.000696
Kieth
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^^ idunno about you but I feel like the extra lines are worth reading the code and knowing what the heck it’s doing :smile:
2018-02-27T11:04:20.000389
Kieth
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yeah old code is way clearer
2018-02-27T11:06:01.000483
Micki
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i’m working on a library, and i’m finding that i’m passing variables around quite a bit. i’ve thought about breaking the main() function into a class, but i could also do nested functions to get the globals, i’m kind of confused how i should proceed
2018-02-27T11:17:05.000506
Tobias
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there is maybe one counterpoint on the above, at least `func_suppress_exc()` can be put under test
2018-02-27T11:24:55.000226
Kieth
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I don’t think that helps in this case much because it’s so likely someone is going to call it incorrectly
2018-02-27T11:25:04.000981
Kieth
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<@Kieth> why do you want to suppress exceptions in the first place?
2018-02-27T11:26:59.000268
Aleida
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I'd like to see functions you're willing to wrap in `func_suppress_exc`
2018-02-27T11:27:34.000725
Aleida
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<@Aleida> it’s funny you should ask that… that is a battle I have already lost. the best case I can personally make for it is that we’re working with legacy code and we can’t yet guarantee that everything we call isn’t going to fail for non-fatal reasons, and if we raise the exception that can break some mission criti...
2018-02-27T11:30:14.000443
Kieth
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<@Aleida> btw, you would NOT like to see the functions we’re wrapping :wink:
2018-02-27T11:32:22.000287
Kieth
pythondev_help_Kieth_2018-02-27T11:32:22.000287
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:barf:
2018-02-27T11:32:32.000460
Kieth
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Hmm
2018-02-27T11:32:36.000104
Aleida
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Sounds like the function that raised an exception can possibly leave the whole app in a weird, inconsistent state
2018-02-27T11:33:04.000632
Aleida
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Maybe you can just hook into <https://docs.python.org/3/library/sys.html#sys.excepthook> ?
2018-02-27T11:33:33.000817
Aleida
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<@Aleida> if i’m reading it correctly it seems like that would allow the exception to raise and stop the program, but we would control logging first
2018-02-27T11:35:30.000149
Kieth
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but i’m not sure i’m reading it correctly :slightly_smiling_face:
2018-02-27T11:35:37.000182
Kieth
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Oh, right, I forgot that hook can't prevent the exception from being raised
2018-02-27T11:36:10.000247
Aleida
pythondev_help_Aleida_2018-02-27T11:36:10.000247
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with script in atom, does anyone know if you can run small segments on code to see if it works?
2018-02-27T11:36:20.000244
Milo
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<@Kieth> I honestly don't think that you should have such function. Maybe you can let your program die and configure your process manager to autorestart it in case of a failure?
2018-02-27T11:37:27.000114
Aleida
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<@Aleida> my hands are kind of tied on that, basically the code already catches all exceptions and our mandate is to make our change without modifying that behavior :disappointed:
2018-02-27T11:38:22.000314
Kieth
pythondev_help_Kieth_2018-02-27T11:38:22.000314
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but within that mandate I think I’m still opposed to turning the inline try/except into a function
2018-02-27T11:38:58.000362
Kieth
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mkay
2018-02-27T11:38:58.000488
Aleida
pythondev_help_Aleida_2018-02-27T11:38:58.000488
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even if it was actually better it would be making it more convenient to do something bad :stuck_out_tongue:
2018-02-27T11:39:18.000841
Kieth
pythondev_help_Kieth_2018-02-27T11:39:18.000841
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but it’s not better
2018-02-27T11:39:21.000080
Kieth
pythondev_help_Kieth_2018-02-27T11:39:21.000080
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<https://docs.python.org/3/library/contextlib.html#contextlib.suppress>
2018-02-27T11:39:41.000727
Aleida
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