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In this paper, we introduce the Curse of Depth, a concept that highlights, explains, and addresses the recent observation in modern Large Language Models(LLMs) where nearly half of the layers are less effective than expected. We first confirm the wide existence of this phenomenon across the most popular families of LLMs such as Llama, Mistral, DeepSeek, and Qwen. Our analysis, theoretically and empirically, identifies that the underlying reason for the ineffectiveness of deep layers in LLMs is the widespread usage of Pre-Layer Normalization (Pre-LN). While Pre-LN stabilizes the training of Transformer LLMs, its output variance exponentially grows with the model depth, which undesirably causes the derivative of the deep Transformer blocks to be an identity matrix, and therefore barely contributes to the training. To resolve this training pitfall, we propose LayerNorm Scaling, which scales the variance of output of the layer normalization inversely by the square root of its depth. This simple modification mitigates the output variance explosion of deeper Transformer layers, improving their contribution. Our experimental results, spanning model sizes from 130M to 1B, demonstrate that LayerNorm Scaling significantly enhances LLM pre-training performance compared to Pre-LN. Moreover, this improvement seamlessly carries over to supervised fine-tuning. All these gains can be attributed to the fact that LayerNorm Scaling enables deeper layers to contribute more effectively during training.

Recent work has demonstrated the curse of depth in large language models (LLMs), where later layers contribute less to learning and representation than earlier layers. Such under-utilization is linked to the accumulated growth of variance in Pre-Layer Normalization, which can push deep blocks toward near-identity behavior. In this paper, we demonstrate that, sparsity, beyond enabling efficiency, acts as a regulator of variance propagation and thereby improves depth utilization. Our investigation covers two sources of sparsity: (i) implicit sparsity, which emerges from training and data conditions, including weight sparsity induced by weight decay and attention sparsity induced by long context inputs; and (ii) explicit sparsity, which is enforced by architectural design, including key/value-sharing sparsity in Grouped-Query Attention and expert-activation sparsity in Mixtureof-Experts. Our claim is thoroughly supported by controlled depth-scaling experiments and targeted layer effectiveness interventions. Across settings, we observe a consistent relationship: sparsity improves layer utilization by reducing output variance and promoting functional differentiation. We eventually distill our findings into a practical rule-of-thumb recipe for training deptheffective LLMs, yielding a notable 4.6% accuracy improvement on downstream tasks. Our results reveal sparsity, arising naturally from standard design choices, as a key yet previously overlooked mechanism for effective depth scaling in LLMs. Code is available at https://github.com/pUmpKin-Co/SparsityAndCoD.

As data propagates through a Transformer, the norm of its hidden states grows by orders of magnitude with depth, a phenomenon framed as 'curse of depth' and nearly universally treated as a pathology to be suppressed. We take the opposite view. Across 16 pre-trained LLMs from 9 families, spanning dense, mixture-of-experts and hybrid architectures and Pre-, Peri- and Post-Norm designs, we find that this growth reflects an emergent depth-positional encoding, carried by the only learned per-layer gain on the residual stream, the normalization weight γ: with depth, γ grows in magnitude and rotates in direction, jointly encoding the layer index. We make this depth-conditioned encoding explicit with LayerRoPE, an implicit analog of RoPE along the depth axis, which replaces all layerwise γ vectors with a single shared vector and depth-conditioned scalars, at a net reduction in parameters and <0.02% change in FLOPs. Across a model ladder scaled up to 100B+ tokens, LayerRoPE consistently outperforms Pre-, Post- and Peri-Norm and Layer-Norm Scaling, reaching Pre-Norm's 1.3B loss with 3.4times less compute; LayerRoPE is the only approach that shows strong convergence and improves near monotonically as depth scales to 512 layers. It improves learning-rate sensitivity by 3-10times, and transfers naively to and consistently improves looped latent models and Vision Transformers. Inspecting its learned schedule inverts the prevailing premise: LayerRoPE does not shrink the residual stream but widens it, damping what each block reads while amplifying what it writes. Depth stability, our results suggest, calls not for suppressing the residual stream, but for depth-conditioned regulation of the computational blocks it feeds.

Looped Transformers introduce recurrent depth as a new scaling axis for LLMs: by repeatedly applying shared Transformer blocks, they increase effective depth without increasing parameter count. However, the benefits of looping remain unclear for large MoE LLMs under FLOPs-matched comparisons. The main reason is that the gains from additional iterations diminish quickly and can even turn into degradation, so the extra FLOPs spent on looping yield little substantial improvement. Consequently, prior work typically settles on two loops. We identify two main obstacles to scaling looped MoE. First, looping inherits and amplifies the curse of depth: hidden-state variance grows with each iteration as residual updates accumulate, which destabilizes deep recurrence and causes representations to drift. Second, looped MoE suffers from expert selection collapse: routers repeatedly select the same experts across loops, so extra iterations add computation without adding computational diversity. Guided by this diagnosis, we propose LOOM, built on a single principle: each loop should contribute new computation while keeping the recurrent state stable. LOOM stabilizes recurrence by scaling residual updates to bound variance growth and re-injecting the input embedding at every loop, and diversifies it through per-loop routers that engage different experts and a Looping Residual that carries earlier outputs forward. Experiments across 100M-1.7B models show stable scaling to 9-12 loops. Under near-iso-FLOP, the 700M model performs best at 5 loops, reducing perplexity from 18.36 to 16.54 and improving average zero-shot accuracy from 38.84% to 39.53% over the non-looped baseline. Without FLOP matching, the 1.7B model trained on 60B tokens peaks at 9 loops, reducing perplexity from 9.62 to 7.77 and improving average zero-shot accuracy from 42.4% to 47.7%. Code is available https://github.com/hed-ucas/LOOM.

We describe the new field of mathematical analysis of deep learning. This field emerged around a list of research questions that were not answered within the classical framework of learning theory. These questions concern: the outstanding generalization power of overparametrized neural networks, the role of depth in deep architectures, the apparent absence of the curse of dimensionality, the surprisingly successful optimization performance despite the non-convexity of the problem, understanding what features are learned, why deep architectures perform exceptionally well in physical problems, and which fine aspects of an architecture affect the behavior of a learning task in which way. We present an overview of modern approaches that yield partial answers to these questions. For selected approaches, we describe the main ideas in more detail.

Pre-Layer Normalization (Pre-LN) is the de facto choice for large language models (LLMs) and is crucial for stable pretraining and effective transfer learning. However, Pre-LN is inefficient due to repeated statistical calculations and suffers from the curse of depth. As layers grow, the magnitude and variance of the hidden state escalate, destabilizing training. Efficiency-oriented normalization-free methods such as Dynamic Tanh (DyT) improve speed but remain fragile at depth. To jointly address stability and efficiency, we propose Bounded Hyperbolic Tanh (BHyT), a drop-in replacement for Pre-LN. BHyT couples a tanh nonlinearity with explicit, data-driven input bounding to keep activations within a non-saturating range. It prevents depth-wise growth in activation magnitude and variance and comes with a theoretical stability guarantee. For efficiency, BHyT computes exact statistics once per block and replaces a second normalization with a lightweight variance approximation, enhancing efficiency. Empirically, BHyT demonstrates improved stability and efficiency during pretraining, achieving an average of 15.8% faster training and an average of 4.2% higher token generation throughput compared to RMSNorm., while matching or surpassing its inference performance and robustness across language understanding and reasoning benchmarks. Our code is available at: https://anonymous.4open.science/r/BHyT

A graph neural network (GNN) is a good choice for predicting the chemical properties of molecules. Compared with other deep networks, however, the current performance of a GNN is limited owing to the "curse of depth." Inspired by long-established feature engineering in the field of chemistry, we expanded an atom representation using Weisfeiler-Lehman (WL) embedding, which is designed to capture local atomic patterns dominating the chemical properties of a molecule. In terms of representability, we show WL embedding can replace the first two layers of ReLU GNN -- a normal embedding and a hidden GNN layer -- with a smaller weight norm. We then demonstrate that WL embedding consistently improves the empirical performance over multiple GNN architectures and several molecular graph datasets.

In this paper, we construct a mixture of neural operators (MoNOs) between function spaces whose complexity is distributed over a network of expert neural operators (NOs), with each NO satisfying parameter scaling restrictions. Our main result is a distributed universal approximation theorem guaranteeing that any Lipschitz non-linear operator between L^2([0,1]^d) spaces can be approximated uniformly over the Sobolev unit ball therein, to any given varepsilon>0 accuracy, by an MoNO while satisfying the constraint that: each expert NO has a depth, width, and rank of O(varepsilon^{-1}). Naturally, our result implies that the required number of experts must be large, however, each NO is guaranteed to be small enough to be loadable into the active memory of most computers for reasonable accuracies varepsilon. During our analysis, we also obtain new quantitative expression rates for classical NOs approximating uniformly continuous non-linear operators uniformly on compact subsets of L^2([0,1]^d).

Recent advances in depth-recurrent language models show that recurrence can decouple train-time compute and parameter count from test-time compute. In this work, we study how to convert existing pretrained non-recurrent language models into depth-recurrent models. We find that using a curriculum of recurrences to increase the effective depth of the model over the course of training preserves performance while reducing total computational cost. In our experiments, on mathematics, we observe that converting pretrained models to recurrent ones results in better performance at a given compute budget than simply post-training the original non-recurrent language model.

Because of their recent introduction, self-driving cars and advanced driver assistance system (ADAS) equipped vehicles have had little opportunity to learn, the dangerous traffic (including near-miss incident) scenarios that provide normal drivers with strong motivation to drive safely. Accordingly, as a means of providing learning depth, this paper presents a novel traffic database that contains information on a large number of traffic near-miss incidents that were obtained by mounting driving recorders in more than 100 taxis over the course of a decade. The study makes the following two main contributions: (i) In order to assist automated systems in detecting near-miss incidents based on database instances, we created a large-scale traffic near-miss incident database (NIDB) that consists of video clip of dangerous events captured by monocular driving recorders. (ii) To illustrate the applicability of NIDB traffic near-miss incidents, we provide two primary database-related improvements: parameter fine-tuning using various near-miss scenes from NIDB, and foreground/background separation into motion representation. Then, using our new database in conjunction with a monocular driving recorder, we developed a near-miss recognition method that provides automated systems with a performance level that is comparable to a human-level understanding of near-miss incidents (64.5% vs. 68.4% at near-miss recognition, 61.3% vs. 78.7% at near-miss detection).

Information elicitation is an open-ended information-seeking problem in which an interaction can unfold in many potentially valuable directions, requiring an elicitor to continually determine which information to pursue as new information emerges. In agentic elicitation, these decisions may be delegated to a foundation model, yet how model choice shapes the resulting information-seeking behavior remains understudied. We study how judgments about information value vary across LLMs and how these differences shape sequential information seeking. We first examine these judgments across 11 LLMs spanning multiple model families and parameter scales, using a shared set of information and elicitation objectives. We then develop a controlled elicitation simulation in which different models encounter the same information space and use the same selection rule, isolating these judgments from question generation and respondent behavior. Using this setting, we characterize the breadth-depth behavior that emerges from model-specific information-seeking preferences over the course of elicitation. We further examine how interaction history changes the evaluation and subsequent selection of prospective information. We test the robustness and boundaries of these findings through sensitivity analyses and ablations over the opportunities available to the elicitor, the response labels used to operationalize information-seeking preferences, the presence of interaction history, and whether redundancy is explicitly relevant to the assessment. The project code, data, and trajectory files are available at https://github.com/infosenselab/open-elicitation.

Multiple epidemic waves are often taken as evidence that simple compartmental models are structurally inadequate. Yet the key question is not whether a simple model can reproduce multiple peaks, but how much time-varying structure is minimally required to preserve observed epidemic-wave patterns and what can legitimately be inferred from such a representation. Using the susceptible-infectious-removed (SIR) model, we develop a framework for peak-preserving dynamic parsimony linking dynamical systems, inverse problems, statistical inference, and infectious-disease modeling. We establish exact multi-wave representability under time-varying transmission, characterize conditions for epidemic peaks and resurgence, and show the incidence-only non-identifiability of time-varying transmission and removal rates. Our main methodological contribution is minimal peak-preserving complexity (MPPC): the smallest dimension of a positive time-varying transmission function whose posterior-predictive trajectories preserve salient features, including peak count, timing, height, trough depth, and whole-curve agreement. We estimate MPPC using peak-aware approximate Bayesian computation and evaluate it through six reproducible stress tests, a Philippine COVID-19 reported-case proof of concept, and short-term future-knot projection. Across diverse data-generating mechanisms, low-dimensional time-varying SIR models can preserve aggregate epidemic-wave topology with modest dynamic complexity. However, accurate trajectory compression does not imply recovery of the underlying mechanism or reliable long-term counterfactual prediction. The framework therefore separates four often-conflated questions: representability, minimal dynamic complexity, mechanistic identifiability, and projection validity, providing a basis for parsimonious modeling of complex epidemic trajectories.

Language model (LM) distillation is a trending area that aims to distil the knowledge resided in a large teacher LM to a small student one. While various methods have been proposed to push the distillation to its limits, it is still a pain distilling LMs when a large capacity gap is exhibited between the teacher and the student LMs. The pain is mainly resulted by the curse of capacity gap, which describes that a larger teacher LM cannot always lead to a better student LM than one distilled from a smaller teacher LM due to the affect of capacity gap increment. That is, there is likely an optimal point yielding the best student LM along the scaling course of the teacher LM. Even worse, the curse of capacity gap can be only partly yet not fully lifted as indicated in previous studies. However, the tale is not ever one-sided. Although a larger teacher LM has better performance than a smaller teacher LM, it is much more resource-demanding especially in the context of recent large LMs (LLMs). Consequently, instead of sticking to lifting the curse, leaving the curse as is should be arguably fine. Even better, in this paper, we reveal that the optimal capacity gap is almost consistent across different student scales and architectures, fortunately turning the curse into the law of capacity gap. The law later guides us to distil a 3B student LM (termed MiniMA) from a 7B teacher LM (adapted LLaMA2-7B). MiniMA is demonstrated to yield a new compute-performance pareto frontier among existing 3B LMs on commonly used benchmarks, and its instruction-tuned version (termed MiniChat) outperforms a wide range of 3B competitors in GPT4 evaluation and could even compete with several 7B chat models.

Pretrained language models (LMs) have shown compelling performance on various downstream tasks, but unfortunately they require a tremendous amount of inference compute. Knowledge distillation finds a path to compress LMs to small ones with a teacher-student paradigm. However, when the capacity gap between the teacher and the student is large, a curse of capacity gap appears, invoking a deficiency in distilling LMs. While a few studies have been carried out to fill the gap, the curse is not yet well tackled. In this paper, we aim at lifting the curse of capacity gap via enlarging the capacity of the student without notably increasing the inference compute. Largely motivated by sparse activation regime of mixture of experts (MoE), we propose a mixture of minimal experts (MiniMoE), which imposes extra parameters to the student but introduces almost no additional inference compute. Experimental results on GLUE and CoNLL demonstrate the curse of capacity gap is lifted by the magic of MiniMoE to a large extent. MiniMoE also achieves the state-of-the-art performance at small FLOPs compared with a range of competitive baselines. With a compression rate as much as sim50times, MiniMoE preserves sim95\% GLUE score of the teacher.