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Nov 9

What Outcome RL Buys: Finishing, Reliability, Rarely Reach

Outcome RL raises pass@1 but not pass@k at large k (Yue et al., 2025). But every pass@1 is scored under a token budget. Every recipe also trains under one. On physics and math problems at fixed token budgets, we compare the pass@1 of 20 released RL models (1.5B to 32B) with that of the thinking models they started from. We ask whether each pass@1 gain is changed behaviour or new knowledge. We divide each change in pass@1 into three parts. Finishing measures answering before the budget runs out. Reliability measures being right once finished. Reach measures problems RL solves that its base answered wrongly in all eight tries, minus problems the base solves that RL answered wrongly in all eight. We find four things. (1) Where the base often hits the token budget before answering, most of the change, gain or loss, is finishing (82% at 4k and 8k). Given more tokens, the base closes most of the finishing gap itself. (2) Where the base has enough tokens, the gain is reliability: the RL model is graded right more often, even on problems both finish. (3) By our definition, RL rarely solves what its base cannot. Reach adds at most 2.1 percentage points on any of our four physics and math sets. We checked 144 physics problems that only the RL model solved. Of these, 3.5% hold up when resampled or read. In a random sample, nine of ten new RL steps a human confirmed also appear in the base's samples. (4) In a small-scale RL run on an 8B model, the gain on new problems is finishing, with reliability flat. Supplying each problem's physical setup was not shown to improve on plain RL.

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Oct 25 2

Does CoT-Pass@k Really Check the CoT? A Multilingual Mathematical Audit

Pass@k measures whether a model reaches a correct answer under repeated sampling, but never how: a lucky guess counts the same as sound reasoning. CoT-Pass@k was proposed to close that gap, adding an LLM-as-judge that must assess a solution's reasoning chain before it counts. Its value rests entirely on one assumption: that the judge catches flawed reasoning. That assumption has never been tested inside the metric that depends on it, and never outside English, though the metric's claims concern models used in many languages. We report the first audit of that verification step, run under the metric's own protocol on a multilingual suite of five mathematical benchmarks in English, Turkish and Portuguese, two of them natively written. We corrupt correct solutions with deterministic edits that damage the chain and the final answer separately. We observe that all three judges accept corrupted chains almost as often as clean ones. V4-Flash and Qwen3.6 reject a solution sharply only when its final answer is wrong and accept a wrong answer more readily when the chain agrees with it; the metric's own judge accepts most wrong answers as well. Our study shows that chain-answer agreement dominates the two larger judges' verdicts and that all three fail to reliably detect the tested reasoning errors. Consequently the difference Pass@k - CoT-Pass@k averages 19.7 points on an earlier solver generation but only 4.1 on the current one. What little remains depends on the token budgets on both sides and on the generation mode; raising the generation budget moves Pass@64 by more than fifty points while the difference stays at zero. We close with two checks any judged reasoning metric should pass before its numbers are read as evidence about reasoning.

  • 3 authors
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Sep 25

Free Lunch for Pass@k? Low Cost Diverse Sampling for Diffusion Language Models

Diverse outputs in text generation are necessary for effective exploration in complex reasoning tasks, such as code generation and mathematical problem solving. Such Pass@k problems benefit from distinct candidates covering the solution space. However, traditional sampling approaches often waste computational resources on repetitive failure modes. While Diffusion Language Models have emerged as a competitive alternative to the prevailing Autoregressive paradigm, they remain susceptible to this redundancy, with independent samples frequently collapsing into similar modes. To address this, we propose a training free, low cost intervention to enhance generative diversity in Diffusion Language Models. Our approach modifies intermediate samples in a batch sequentially, where each sample is repelled from the feature space of previous samples, actively penalising redundancy. Unlike prior methods that require retraining or beam search, our strategy incurs negligible computational overhead, while ensuring that each sample contributes a unique perspective to the batch. We evaluate our method on the HumanEval and GSM8K benchmarks using the LLaDA-8B-Instruct model. Our results demonstrate significantly improved diversity and Pass@k performance across various temperature settings. As a simple modification to the sampling process, our method offers an immediate, low-cost improvement for current and future Diffusion Language Models in tasks that benefit from diverse solution search. We make our code available at https://github.com/sean-lamont/odd.

  • 5 authors
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Mar 5 2