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Nov 11

How Much Training-Inference Mismatch Can On-Policy Distillation Tolerate?

On-policy distillation (OPD) trains a student language model on its own responses, guided by a fixed teacher. Generating these responses is expensive, so systems use quantized inference and asynchronous rollouts to reduce the cost. Both, however, introduce training-inference mismatch between the rollout engine and the model being trained. Such mismatch can destabilize reinforcement learning (RL), but its effects on OPD remain unclear. This paper investigates how much mismatch OPD tolerates, where its effects arise, and how training systems can use this tolerance. Measuring all mismatch sources on one scale, we examine quantization across three student-teacher pairs, with additional tests of weight staleness and injected noise on one pair. OPD tolerates substantial mismatch without meaningful loss of training quality but degrades at higher levels, revealing an empirical mismatch budget. Both the quality cost of mismatch and the mismatch introduced by quantization depend on the model, with some layers particularly sensitive to reduced precision. In controlled comparisons, OPD remains stable under rollout configurations that destabilize RL methods. Under weight noise, mismatch also shifts the prefixes reached during generation, introducing errors that per-token corrections cannot address. To put these findings into practice, we introduce a lightweight admission check that screens rollout configurations against a calibrated budget without requiring a full training run for each candidate. Model-specific FP8 recipes preserve training quality while providing capacity for at least 1.93times as many KV-cache tokens as BF16. Combining FP8 with asynchronous rollouts reaches the same training quality 1.62times sooner than synchronous BF16 training. Code is available at https://github.com/benyucong/train-inference-mismatch-opd

  • 8 authors
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Nov 7 8

SparseRL-Sync: Lossless Weight Synchronization with ~100x Less Communication

In large-scale reinforcement learning (RL) systems with decoupled Trainer-Rollout execution, the Trainer must regularly synchronize policy weights to the Rollout side to limit policy staleness. When inter-node bandwidth is abundant, such synchronization is usually only a small fraction of end-to-end cost. As model size grows, however, the communication demand rises rapidly. In bandwidth-constrained or network-variable deployments -- for example, cross-datacenter or cross-cluster settings, heterogeneous resource pools, and online RL -- weight synchronization can become a dominant bottleneck for throughput and tail latency. We observe that, in mainstream large-model RL training, the locations where parameters actually change are highly sparse at the element level (often 99%+ sparsity). Building on this observation, we propose and implement SparseRL-Sync, which replaces full-weight transfers with a lossless sparse update payload (indices and values) that can be exactly reconstructed on the inference side, thereby preserving 100% fidelity. Under a simplified cost model, sparse synchronization reduces the per-update communication volume from S to approximately S/X; with 99% sparsity (X ~ 100), this yields about a 100x reduction in transmitted data. Combined with appropriate bucketing, SparseRL-Sync also reduces launch and control-plane overhead, significantly improving scalability and end-to-end efficiency in bandwidth-limited and highly asynchronous RL settings.

  • 7 authors
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May 7

When Memory Lies: An Empirical Study of Spatial Memory Staleness in VLM Agents

Memory-augmented VLM agents act on persistent spatial knowledge, yet that knowledge silently goes stale as the environment changes. We ask what happens when an agent must reconcile a confident memory claim with a contradicting observation, and whether current models can catch the conflict before it becomes a safety-relevant mistake. Using a dynamic FrozenLake testbed, we pair a staleness-detection task with a downstream navigation task across three closed-source models and three open-weight VLMs under both text and image inputs (1,800 detection runs, and 12,000 text-mode navigation episodes over four LLM navigators at a shared 50-seed scale). Three findings emerge. First, text solvability does not imply visual grounding: models that flag stale entries reliably from text nonetheless span vision F1 from 0.887 down to 0.067 on the identical grids, and the weakest keeps making fluent, confident decisions that ignore the image. Second, consuming stale memory without an audit is a safety liability: in our primary GPT-4o setting, an agent that trusts raw memory dies more than twice as often as the same agent given no memory at all. Third, auditing helps but does not close the gap: a transparent read-time filter removes much of the safety cost in text mode, yet even oracle stale labels bring no further significant gain on the current grid size, and when visual auditing is unreliable, filtering yields no consistent benefit. Together these results frame spatial-memory staleness as a safety failure mode and isolate reliable visual grounding and action selection under memory--observation conflict as the central open challenges for memory-augmented agents.

tencent Tencent
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Aug 4 2

Understanding Decoupled and Early Weight Decay

Weight decay (WD) is a traditional regularization technique in deep learning, but despite its ubiquity, its behavior is still an area of active research. Golatkar et al. have recently shown that WD only matters at the start of the training in computer vision, upending traditional wisdom. Loshchilov et al. show that for adaptive optimizers, manually decaying weights can outperform adding an l_2 penalty to the loss. This technique has become increasingly popular and is referred to as decoupled WD. The goal of this paper is to investigate these two recent empirical observations. We demonstrate that by applying WD only at the start, the network norm stays small throughout training. This has a regularizing effect as the effective gradient updates become larger. However, traditional generalizations metrics fail to capture this effect of WD, and we show how a simple scale-invariant metric can. We also show how the growth of network weights is heavily influenced by the dataset and its generalization properties. For decoupled WD, we perform experiments in NLP and RL where adaptive optimizers are the norm. We demonstrate that the primary issue that decoupled WD alleviates is the mixing of gradients from the objective function and the l_2 penalty in the buffers of Adam (which stores the estimates of the first-order moment). Adaptivity itself is not problematic and decoupled WD ensures that the gradients from the l_2 term cannot "drown out" the true objective, facilitating easier hyperparameter tuning.

  • 3 authors
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Dec 26, 2020

Tackling the Unlimited Staleness in Federated Learning with Intertwined Data and Device Heterogeneities

The efficiency of Federated Learning (FL) is often affected by both data and device heterogeneities. Data heterogeneity is defined as the heterogeneity of data distributions on different clients. Device heterogeneity is defined as the clients' variant latencies in uploading their local model updates due to heterogeneous conditions of local hardware resources, and causes the problem of staleness when being addressed by asynchronous FL. Traditional schemes of tackling the impact of staleness consider data and device heterogeneities as two separate and independent aspects in FL, but this assumption is unrealistic in many practical FL scenarios where data and device heterogeneities are intertwined. In these cases, traditional schemes of weighted aggregation in FL have been proved to be ineffective, and a better approach is to convert a stale model update into a non-stale one. In this paper, we present a new FL framework that leverages the gradient inversion technique for such conversion, hence efficiently tackling unlimited staleness in clients' model updates. Our basic idea is to use gradient inversion to get estimations of clients' local training data from their uploaded stale model updates, and use these estimations to compute non-stale client model updates. In this way, we address the problem of possible data quality drop when using gradient inversion, while still preserving the clients' local data privacy. We compared our approach with the existing FL strategies on mainstream datasets and models, and experiment results demonstrate that when tackling unlimited staleness, our approach can significantly improve the trained model accuracy by up to 20% and speed up the FL training progress by up to 35%.

  • 2 authors
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Sep 23, 2023 2

Category-Aware Semantic Caching for Heterogeneous LLM Workloads

LLM serving systems process heterogeneous query workloads where different categories exhibit different characteristics. Code queries cluster densely in embedding space while conversational queries distribute sparsely. Content staleness varies from minutes (stock data) to months (code patterns). Query repetition patterns range from power-law (code) to uniform (conversation), producing long tail cache hit rate distributions: high-repetition categories achieve 40-60% hit rates while low-repetition or volatile categories achieve 5-15% hit rates. Vector databases must exclude the long tail because remote search costs (30ms) require 15--20% hit rates to break even, leaving 20-30% of production traffic uncached. Uniform cache policies compound this problem: fixed thresholds cause false positives in dense spaces and miss valid paraphrases in sparse spaces; fixed TTLs waste memory or serve stale data. This paper presents category-aware semantic caching where similarity thresholds, TTLs, and quotas vary by query category. We present a hybrid architecture separating in-memory HNSW search from external document storage, reducing miss cost from 30ms to 2ms. This reduction makes low-hit-rate categories economically viable (break-even at 3-5% versus 15-20%), enabling cache coverage across the entire workload distribution. Adaptive load-based policies extend this framework to respond to downstream model load, dynamically adjusting thresholds and TTLs to reduce traffic to overloaded models by 9-17% in theoretical projections.

  • 6 authors
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Oct 29, 2025

CLASSP: a Biologically-Inspired Approach to Continual Learning through Adjustment Suppression and Sparsity Promotion

This paper introduces a new biologically-inspired training method named Continual Learning through Adjustment Suppression and Sparsity Promotion (CLASSP). CLASSP is based on two main principles observed in neuroscience, particularly in the context of synaptic transmission and Long-Term Potentiation (LTP). The first principle is a decay rate over the weight adjustment, which is implemented as a generalization of the AdaGrad optimization algorithm. This means that weights that have received many updates should have lower learning rates as they likely encode important information about previously seen data. However, this principle results in a diffuse distribution of updates throughout the model, as it promotes updates for weights that haven't been previously updated, while a sparse update distribution is preferred to leave weights unassigned for future tasks. Therefore, the second principle introduces a threshold on the loss gradient. This promotes sparse learning by updating a weight only if the loss gradient with respect to that weight is above a certain threshold, i.e. only updating weights with a significant impact on the current loss. Both principles reflect phenomena observed in LTP, where a threshold effect and a gradual saturation of potentiation have been observed. CLASSP is implemented in a Python/PyTorch class, making it applicable to any model. When compared with Elastic Weight Consolidation (EWC) using Computer Vision and sentiment analysis datasets, CLASSP demonstrates superior performance in terms of accuracy and memory footprint.

  • 1 authors
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Apr 29, 2024

Stale but Stable: Staleness-Adaptive Trust Regions for Stabilizing Asynchronous Reinforcement Learning

Asynchronous reinforcement learning improves throughput by decoupling rollout generation from optimization, but staleness is an inevitable byproduct compounded by policy lag, engine delays, and mixture-of-experts routing. From a trust-region perspective, this mismatch is critical: training-inference divergence governs approximation error in finite-horizon bounds, whereas PPO clipping only gates sampled outward updates, acting as a sampled surrogate rather than a full-policy constraint. As a result, high-staleness updates remain weakly controlled in the asynchronous regime where stale rollouts matter most. We introduce the Staleness-Adaptive Trust Region (SAT), which uses the detached sampled log-ratio as a practical staleness proxy, identifies high-mismatch tails within each batch via staleness-based kernel scaling, and contracts only the sign-selected endpoint of the nominal PPO interval. This preserves baseline behavior on ordinary tokens while enforcing more conservative updates on newly intercepted outward bands. We prove local interval containment and pointwise pessimism relative to PPO, showing how the adaptive rule reshapes update geometry under heterogeneous staleness. We evaluate SAT in a decoupled asynchronous RL setup built on Qwen3-30B-A3B-Base, using SGLang as the inference engine and Megatron for training. In this setting, SAT-GSPO w/ R3 achieves the best observed AIME24 avg@8, reaching 35.83 at lag 1 and 34.79 at lag 8, while SAT-GSPO reaches 34.17 at lag 1. Adaptive clipping and routing replay act as complementary stabilizers targeting mismatch tails and routing inconsistency, respectively. Overall, aligning clip intervals with staleness heterogeneity effectively stabilizes asynchronous RL.