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ares0027
1,780,936,246
“Amagawd this game is not this graphic intensive why is it using 100% of cpu all the time! Amagawd! It is a cryptominer!” There i gave you the first public review of your game :D expect this kind of reviews/comments
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oqh6u75
LocalLLaMA
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MorphLand
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Gratzie. It's more a philosophy experiment than a "game" so to speak. You're really trying to defend that you exist or don't exist. Or that the AI does or doesn't. Lines get blurry. It's fun I recommend it. I usually hate LLMs as well I was trying to come up with a way to use this stuff gracefully
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oqh70lh
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MorphLand
1,780,936,328
Joy
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oqh8eyv
LocalLLaMA
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Time_Cat_5212
1,780,936,705
Local LLMs for dialogue in games is going to be the coolest thing ever. It's 100% the future of gaming. Bravo for taking it on! Never mind the haters - you're gonna get people screaming about content theft and environmental stuff even if that's not at all how the models you're using work, because the world is full o...
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oqh8lpj
LocalLLaMA
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Witty_Mycologist_995
1,780,936,755
Pls use Gemma, llama old
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oqh8tp2
LocalLLaMA
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MorphLand
1,780,936,814
Trust me, i tried multiple gemma models and it's just much worse. Don't ask me why cause I don't know.
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oqh918y
LocalLLaMA
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MorphLand
1,780,936,868
Yep, it's coming. I think everybody can see that. NPCs and generative dialogue in games is like the best possible use case for this stuff in my mind. It enhances art without taking anything in my opinion, unless of course you WANT a hard-written story which is also awesome.
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oqh9660
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Witty_Mycologist_995
1,780,936,904
Gemma 4 is 100% better than any llama model. If it isn’t, you are doing something wrong.
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oqh9gwf
LocalLLaMA
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MorphLand
1,780,936,984
Maybe. I built a general framework in the codebase for how the Ai "thinks" an then inject the LLM on top of it to make it function. Some LLMs are just better suited for the setup I have I guess. Not claiming to be an expert! It's just all I can tell you after testing.
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oqhar8y
LocalLLaMA
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WhopperitoJr
1,780,937,328
Nice work! I have a similar plugin for [Unreal,](https://swamprabbitlabs.com/personica/) and the different challenges when it comes to performance and balancing multiple NPC calls have been fun, although a bit frustrating at times, to work with. I think these smaller models are great for conversation and light inferen...
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oqhb3cq
LocalLLaMA
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Time_Cat_5212
1,780,937,417
Yeah, I think there will be some seismic shifts in how people understand the role of the LLM in content creation. It's not only LLM-generated versus hand-written - there are so many shades in between. Today, we're stuck in this pattern of "LLM bad because it does stuff for you" kind of Human VS AI narrative that isn'...
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oqhbcju
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MorphLand
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You're amazing, glad you commented! For the full release, I'm going to let the user plug in any model they want if they'r'e advanced, but yeah. I don't disagree Gemma is better in general at all, I'm no expert. I barely know what I'm doing lol. This is just my experiment and for some reason just with how I have my code...
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oqhc565
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MorphLand
1,780,937,696
I have a bit of cognitive dissonance about it but generally I agree with your point that people are resistant to accept what's coming. I would NEVER use gen AI to make visual models for a game, or write a song for me, but I would use it to make a gameplay experience more engaging or interesting. I come to game dev firs...
3
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1,789,194,972
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oqhcc6f
LocalLLaMA
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oqh6u75
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gh0stwriter1234
1,780,937,748
It would be cool if you could take the output of your llama model and have talkie 13b reword it into a retro philosophical conversation (the talkie model's data cutoff is 1930 so it doesn't know anything modern)
2
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1,789,194,972
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oqhego0
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhc565
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Time_Cat_5212
1,780,938,320
I'm also an electronic music producer with some work on Spotify etc. I haven't tried using gen AI for music yet; ML-based modules on a synth rack are as close as I've gotten. I'm curious what you'd think about like, a synthesizer whose interface is a live, dictated dialogue between a singer and an orchestra, or somet...
2
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null
1,789,194,972
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oqhehh3
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhbcju
2
WhopperitoJr
1,780,938,326
Llama is totally fine, and I’ve definitely had to make adjustments myself when new models come out that don’t work within the framework I have built. For me, there was an explosion in complexity when going from a single chatbot-style NPC to multiple NPCs generating at the same time. If you want to develop in that dire...
1
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1,789,194,972
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oqhfm6z
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhego0
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MorphLand
1,780,938,632
Here's what I've been thinking about it, or at least how I justify it's use. When i open pro tools, logic or whatever, and I don't feel like micing up a real amp, I can use a VST distortion plug in. I don't have to FIRST CODE the distortion plug in and build an interface. I just use what's there and tweak it until I l...
1
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null
1,789,194,972
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oqhgif2
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhehh3
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MorphLand
1,780,938,873
Interesting, so one model warmed up at all times for multiple NPCs where there's queue. My system now there's like a brain, a memory document based on what's happened, personality, and all these are combined together at different times via code into a prompt that is sent. The prompt changes over time, and \\ how the AI...
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1,789,194,972
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oqhgnhw
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
1u0cpbm
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SporksInjected
1,780,938,911
Ah man you beat me to it. I’ve been working on a survival horror that uses a local model.
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oqhgz7y
LocalLLaMA
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MorphLand
1,780,939,000
no fucking way, dm me I would love to hear about it.
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oqhhpnn
LocalLLaMA
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SporksInjected
1,780,939,197
It’s all in how you use them. I’ve been using them for immersion and to randomize events in a way that a number generator wouldn’t be able to.
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oqhi3vr
LocalLLaMA
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oqhfm6z
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Time_Cat_5212
1,780,939,303
Yeah I agree with you and I'd offer this simple idea.  People who want to be lazy will look for ways to be lazy.  People who want to be creative and/or learn will dig in.  The ways in which we choose to engage with the tools available to us come from within.  Do we want to create, or do we just want a free ride?  I thi...
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oqhja8k
LocalLLaMA
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jcdoe
1,780,939,615
What hardware did you need to pull this off? How big is the model?
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oqhk9rg
LocalLLaMA
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MorphLand
1,780,939,878
I am literal fool with no clue what I'm doing, but after testing dozens and dozens of models with the assumption that I would end up with some kind of Gemma model, Llama 3.1 outperformed everything in terms of speed and conversational quality across all hardware models and it's not even close. I developed this on a ma...
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1,789,194,972
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oqhl4cq
LocalLLaMA
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joelkurian
1,780,940,106
A suggestion if you will - Have tokens stay where they are displayed just like chat UIs. Trying to read moving text at top is really jarring.
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oqhloq1
LocalLLaMA
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oqhl4cq
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MorphLand
1,780,940,259
i did end up patching that a few days ago this is an older clip, text flows from top left and stays where it is. good note!
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1,789,194,972
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oqhloym
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
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OoBlowSadi
1,780,940,261
Cool idea! How do you ensure determinism though? Do you have a set of rules you force on the model to prevent drift?
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oqhm0vt
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqh9gwf
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DangKilla
1,780,940,351
Try Gemma-4-26B-A4. It doesn’t need a GPU
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1,789,194,972
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oqhm26v
LocalLLaMA
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oqhi3vr
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MorphLand
1,780,940,360
yes, the travesty and what killed music though is that the major consumer base and the industry it exists in puts lazy output on the same pedestal as high art. Like if galleries had walmart prints next to picassos. Makes no sense and nothing has value. We'll see what happens.
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oqhm90g
LocalLLaMA
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oqhm0vt
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MorphLand
1,780,940,411
oh????? i'll give it a shot. how is that even possible
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1,789,194,972
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oqho6fg
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhm26v
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Time_Cat_5212
1,780,940,924
Oh, I suppose that's true.  Don't you think it's that way for books, games, and other things, too?  I mean, commercialization has always had a really frustrating relationship to art.  Maybe this makes that worse, or maybe it just clarifies the divide between art for people who want art and content for people who want c...
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1,789,194,972
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oqhovo4
LocalLLaMA
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oqho6fg
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MorphLand
1,780,941,110
I think the assumption that people care about whether or not a human being made it will be a somewhat silly consideration to most people in the future. NOT ME. But most people. Most people I know in real life only care about the functionality and ease of use of the thing, not what went in to making it. I think of my mo...
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqhpg8i
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhgz7y
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xyth
1,780,941,261
I just released a STT to AI to TTS system for NPCs in a Unity game called 7 days to die. All C# and XML. It was a challenge to hook into unity and stay off the main cpu thread as that game is CPU bound. Works well. Using whisper.ccp, llama ccp and kokoro onnx. Added long-term memory system yesterday. Really inter...
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1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqhpu2b
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhpg8i
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MorphLand
1,780,941,363
Yes! The hardest part was getting the local server to shut down after closing the game. I got rejected by steam like 3 times because the server wouldnt close after closing the game lol. so you split up the processing of your game between GPU for the model and CPU for the game is that right? Would love to hear more.
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqhr2b8
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhgif2
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WhopperitoJr
1,780,941,688
I have a data asset for a character profile, which contains character-specific information, a separate one for a Prompt Template that can be switched out as needed, and I keep the model/server running as the profiles and templates are switched out. I don’t really count on the model’s memory or context to retain anythin...
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqhrxgc
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhhpnn
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middaymoon
1,780,941,923
LLM output is essentially the same as a heavily weighted number generator. You can just do that yourself with some effort, imagination, and skill. The same elements that make good writing. Immersion is an overrated game design element. The extent to which a character reacts "exactly to what I said" is inversely propo...
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oqhs1sz
LocalLLaMA
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middaymoon
1,780,941,957
Fair enough! 
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null
1,789,194,972
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oqhs5lz
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
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xyth
1,780,941,985
By default, all 3 servers run on CPU. Users can enable GPU loading for whisper and llama, but kokoro currently is on CPU. The is a wakeword system, 'hey Marvin' that hands off to whisper. Even all on CPU, the round trip is under 2 seconds, longer ofcourse if the NPC tells a long story. Users can swap the AI model ...
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqht1kh
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqh8eyv
1
HanzJWermhat
1,780,942,221
There’s unethical things about building the LLMs that for sure are problematic but once’s it’s built the use becomes a lot more ethically sound. I think we need better leadership on both the former and the later. Companies shouldn’t be able to reap the rewards of stolen property, and people/organizations can’t go arou...
1
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqi0ges
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqht1kh
2
Time_Cat_5212
1,780,944,240
I wholeheartedly agree that the early AI models were made unethically.  They took advantage of the fact that the field was new and legal boundaries had not yet been defined.  It was totally wrong. I think there are ethical ways to train AI models now, using consent, compensation and transparency as fundamentals.  Als...
2
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqi1knd
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqh5lwv
1
Blizado
1,780,944,545
Some, but not all gamers. The most hate comes from artists and art lovers and since for many gamers games are art... but as always, it is a loud small group of gamers. On the art/dev side there are maybe more. I'm very open to AI stuff and especially AI NPCs there are less gamers who have a problem with that. You can ...
2
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqi2de1
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhm90g
8
ANR2ME
1,780,944,763
running on CPU of course 😁
3
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqijn17
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
1u0cpbm
0
lonelyroom-eklaghor
1,780,949,533
I love this
2
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqiqcmh
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhrxgc
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autoencoder
1,780,951,401
> Immersion is an overrated game design element. This faulty generalization broke my immersion. I couldn't follow the rest of your comment.
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oqis8kv
LocalLLaMA
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oqiqcmh
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middaymoon
1,780,951,933
Lol bummer I guess. 
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1,789,194,972
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oqisimk
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
1u0cpbm
0
-Ellary-
1,780,952,013
Now lets load one of the TheDrummer models! This will spice things up!
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1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqiu960
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqijn17
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MorphLand
1,780,952,512
thank you ☺️
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1,789,194,972
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oqiughn
LocalLLaMA
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9Harkonnen6
1,780,952,572
I actually did similar thing in Godot few days ago, but I am still struggling with model's response time. Good luck with your project!
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1,789,194,972
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oqj1dwz
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
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Doug_Fripon
1,780,954,690
Very interesting! I'm also experimenting in integrating a llm for games, and for now I settled on LFM 2.5, running on cpu. The model is quite dumb xD but I find it difficult to exclude less than 8Gb ram GPU. So how do you choose this cutoff? I'm curious if you manage to edit a gamestate from the generation. Or is the d...
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1,789,194,972
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oqjr07a
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhk9rg
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reneil1337
1,780,963,831
try cydonia 24b
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1,789,194,972
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oqjwpsf
LocalLLaMA
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oqh918y
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MuDotGen
1,780,965,991
Reminds me of what Facade was trying to do but with actually unscripted dialogue.
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1,789,194,972
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oqkqwhj
LocalLLaMA
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Immediate_Lab_6640
1,780,976,466
a good choice would be to use kokoro for text to speech, really fast and have multilingual support and , wisper tiny for speech to text , but if you use litert inference with gemma models o boy its a game changer , you can use their e2b and e4b models published by litert community and wont need wisper to do speech to ...
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null
1,789,194,972
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oqlbe5b
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
1u0cpbm
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Squidgical
1,780,985,570
If the game is just a conversation with an LLM, what makes the game different from an agent chat with a system prompt besides the chat interface having some graphics? I just don't see the part where this game has a story beyond whatever the LLM comes up with.
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1,789,194,972
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oqm195p
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
1u0cpbm
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trytoinfect74
1,780,999,057
Interesting, which model you have used? I assume that to support as many client devices as possible it would rather be some kind of very small model (0.5-3b), but small models seems to be bad at creative writing and English grammar due to small number of parameters. How you injected your texts and game lora into model,...
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null
1,789,194,972
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oqmficg
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
1u0cpbm
0
soulfir
1,781,005,259
Shipping the weights in the build is a genuinely interesting call and I think it's right for the no-cloud pitch, but the tradeoff people will push on is determinism. A local model at whatever quant the user's hardware forces means two players can get meaningfully different conversation quality from the same NPC, and yo...
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1,789,194,972
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oqmta9q
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqmficg
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MorphLand
1,781,010,013
That's the idea: game logic in code, model handles words. Prompt is built by code parameters every exchange.
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oqmtivu
LocalLLaMA
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oqm195p
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MorphLand
1,781,010,088
I found that it totally depends on your set up, plot, characters, parameters, gameplay, etc. lots of different factors in the "believability' of the LLM. Believe it or not, i tried dozens of models and the one that was best, fastest, and most lightweight (because my goal was a under 5gb build with local LLM) was Llam...
2
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null
1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqmualk
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqlbe5b
1
MorphLand
1,781,010,330
I totally get the skepticism, it's genuinely hard to imagine until you play it. The LLM is just the NPC's voice, personality, emotional context, The prompt is constantly being rewritten by code every exchange to be based in short and long term context. But underneath there's a full conviction system, conversation phas...
2
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1,789,194,972
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oqmue6m
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqkqwhj
1
MorphLand
1,781,010,362
are you talking about this in a game design context?
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1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqmvpve
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqhk9rg
4
BannedGoNext
1,781,010,772
I was quite impressed with the roleplaying ability on qwen 3.6 35b a3b. It's big, but it is fast and has a great vocabulary if you can get the thing shoved into memory. It doesn't surprise me if you need a smaller model that llama is kicking ass. You might see if there are some creative tuned versions of that model,...
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1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqmw23k
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqi0ges
3
BannedGoNext
1,781,010,876
The SOTA ones are still made unethically except for a few of the newer ones that are built around not being unethical. They are still trained on stolen data, even if that is distilled from other stolen data.
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1,789,194,972
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oqmxbq2
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqmvpve
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MorphLand
1,781,011,261
appreciate you
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1,789,194,972
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqno1oe
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
1u0cpbm
0
CryptographerLow6360
1,781,018,623
awesome, pipe bombs and napalm by the campfire
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oqnpo1a
LocalLLaMA
1u0cpbm
oqmualk
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Squidgical
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It'd be unfair to dismiss it without trying, I'll give it a shot.
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MorphLand
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this jerk won't even make me a blueberry pie >:(
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anoop_here
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This is so cool. Great!
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DangKilla
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It's not fast on CPU. I was getting 10 tokens/s. But I'm thinking it's quite possibly the best option for consumer hardware. On GPU, it's very solid and a good enough workhorse that will be usable for the widest array of applications for consumer hardware. I can't think of a better pick for the low end hardware.
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oqtr3bo
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MorphLand
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Yeah I tried everything. Sadly if you’re CPU only you’re pretty much screwed this type of experience can really only be text only
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layer4down
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The Adult Film industry would like to have a word.
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oqhbn97
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East-Muffin-6472
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https://www.smolhub.com/posts/jetson-orin-nano-super-bonsai-benchmark/
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Juulk9087
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The only problem I have with Canada Quant is eventually it starts giving me a weird errors after like a 100 k context. So much so to where I stopped using it and I'm back on 3.6 27B. And yes it is the only alternative to deep seek V4 flash. Everything else is trash
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Reddactor
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I'll use it more and let you know. I can also run the original DS model, but I max out at \~150 tok/s. What kind of errors were you getting?
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Juulk9087
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It seemed to be working fine and then as i would get into high context it would start to put raw JSON in the chat. And then it would stop running its turns and then it would just halt. It was fine up until around 100K but I presume it has to do with not being FP4, or patched kernels. Either way I'm waiting for native s...
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RemarkableAntelope80
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The gemma 4 "assistant" models are gemma MTP weights (very silly name). Plus llama.cpp support recently merged. See this thread (has some ggufs): [https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1typjmc/120\_toks\_on\_12gb\_vram\_with\_gemma\_4\_12b\_qat\_mtp/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1typjmc/120_tok...
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Zestyclose_Potato794
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It is available for Gemma 4, too now. But it depends on the model that provides the MTP capability. If not, you can still use a draft model instead.
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oqin8y3
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areslica
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Pcie speed won't make much difference if you use llama cpp with default later split for multi GPU. It really depends on the GPU speed itself and the model you run. E.g. nvfp4 or not, mtp or not. The same model, if you can fit in one card, it won't be faster/slower if you split with 2 or more GPU for layer split. Vllm...
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oqincbs
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SagaciousFool
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It would be slower. There is orchestration and I don't know how well tensor split works with amd? But with layered split you can expect it to be roughly half speed and that the gain is access to the smarter model, not increased speed. 
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oqirzxo
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grumd
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Even running a 32b model on a big 32GB GPU is slower than running a 16b model on the same GPU. Splitting it between 2 GPUs - idk what will happen and how much parallelization it can do. I'll get my 2nd GPU in a few days and then I'll actually test this
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oqitgwg
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No_Draft_8756
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What do you mean that even a 32b model is slower than a 16b model on the same GPU? Of course it is slower. Double compute and memory usage. Am I missing something?
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oqitm8b
LocalLLaMA
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ea_man
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Let's start saying that double the size would run at half the speed, then you have overheads.
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oqjuv9c
LocalLLaMA
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oqin8y3
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see_spot_ruminate
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Agree. There is a limit (card bandwidth) that you can push up against. However it is not a strict bandwidth/model_size as you can with the right parameter and the new advances in software. For example, I run a quad 5060ti setup and mostly use unsloth/Qwen3.6-27B-MTP-GGUF in the UD-Q8-K-XL quant. For my bandwidth ju...
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oql6zbi
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TinyFluffyRabbit
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You should not expect the same level of performance. That would be the theoretically best case scenario with linear scaling, fast interconnect, and no overhead. If you split by layer, it will be slightly less than half the speed. If you split by tensor, and it scales well, you'd get more (but not double). If it scales...
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oqmikpr
LocalLLaMA
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jtjstock
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Layer split doesn’t double compute as each card effectively takes turns. If you want to effectively use all the compute, then you need tensor split, but tensor split is extremely sensitive to latency between cards. The latency will eat your performance boost. i am not sure about amd cards, but with consumer nvidia card...
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oragxu1
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oqjuv9c
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tomByrer
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\+ more VRAM = more context
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cmk1523
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I bought a 128gb m5 for the main reason of testing these larger models and larger quants. I haven’t been too impressed and I don’t have a favorite config yet. It’s super nice though to run qwen3.6 35b at full fp16 and see if there are any differences in what you’re doing.
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oqjeeoo
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Ok_Technology_5962
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1. I have a m3 ultra 800 gig bandwidth yours would be 680 or something close enough. Yea using it is great. Your bottleneck will be prefil but m5 max has better than my ultra and im already happy. Anything like qwen 3.6 full unquantized will work like magic. Since thats compute bound. Also any dense model with mtp 27b ...
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EveningIncrease7579
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Wait, i didnt see any mention about open source model or open weights
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oqjulo5
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New_Comfortable7240
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> this 20-billion-parameter model uses a sparse architecture, activating just 1 to 4 billion parameters Cool size for GPU poors like me!
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DinoAmino
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They aren't. Probably never will be. Seems it will only be embedded into Apple devices and in their cloud services.
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Aaaaaaaaaeeeee
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https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/introducing-third-generation-of-apple-foundation-models
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oqjxovp
LocalLLaMA
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MajesticAd2862
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Links: · Model — [huggingface.co/omi-health/omi-med-stt-v1](https://huggingface.co/omi-health/omi-med-stt-v1) · Full write-up (all tables + methodology) [omi.health/research/omi-med-stt](https://omi.health/research/omi-med-stt) · Runtime [github.com/Omi-Health/omi-med-stt-runtime](https://github.com/Omi-Health/omi-m...
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oqjy72i
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z_3454_pfk
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was this trained on american voices? or which dialects?
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oqjyzz6
LocalLLaMA
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MajesticAd2862
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Trained on a mixed set of English dialects (including US-EN, UK-EN, Indian-EN, AU-EN and NZ-EN)
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