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nmfisher
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This is like crypto mining, but we actually get something useful out of it.
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oqoqz0g
LocalLLaMA
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imike3049
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Totally agree
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oqpfzdj
LocalLLaMA
1u1blp1
1u1blp1
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xlltt
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wtf thats awesome we need the same for qwen :D
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oqpg511
LocalLLaMA
1u1blp1
1u1blp1
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Silver-Champion-4846
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Ui is not very accessible how is it now? What did they achieve so far?
1
false
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oqq1uoi
LocalLLaMA
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1u1blp1
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slavetothesound
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I like the idea and now I have questions:  What are they doing to get these speed gains and can we replicate it with larger models? 
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oqq66rg
LocalLLaMA
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1u1blp1
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hackerllama
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They are not fighting, they are collaborating, sharing learnings and resources
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oqq6a36
LocalLLaMA
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hackerllama
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They went from 40 tokens per second to 300 tokens per second without quality degradation 
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oqqjrvh
LocalLLaMA
1u1blp1
oqq6a36
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akumaburn
1,781,047,258
Hmm, I'm not so sure about the quality loss, looking at the leaderboard a number of those methods seem to imply dramatic quantization and even layer skipping which should almost certainly result in quality loss.
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oqsaycl
LocalLLaMA
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FusionCow
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they are doing whatever they want. i think i read something about dflash
1
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oquiojg
LocalLLaMA
1u1blp1
oqq6a36
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Silver-Champion-4846
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WHat? How! What quant! Wait no degradation so no quant? How I want this on my cpu xd. Going from 4tps to 30 tps would be something
1
false
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oqx7lxc
LocalLLaMA
1u1blp1
oqqjrvh
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SuperChewbacca
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You are right. It's going to be optimized for tokens/second on the specific test set for the perplexity calculation.
1
false
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oqq746l
LocalLLaMA
1u1dw38
1u1dw38
0
New_Comfortable7240
1,781,043,133
Great! Sadly, the repo is 81GB, have to wait for GGUF Q2 or Q3 for my gpu
9
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oqri4qz
LocalLLaMA
1u1dw38
oqq746l
1
infearia
1,781,058,877
No! Just use ComfyUI, it has native support for SCAIL-2, and thanks to its on-demand offloading (something I wish llama.cpp would implement) you can run their FP8 quant easily with 16GB VRAM - and possibly even with 12GB or less. [https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/pull/14373](https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI/pu...
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oqriqjl
LocalLLaMA
1u1dw38
1u1dw38
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TheRealMasonMac
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It seems like they're going to release GLM-5.2 soon as well. It's accessible via the API (though you can't actually generate with it yet). ![img](rf2ho8debd6h1) "You do not have permission to access glm-5.2" (it will simply state the model doesn't exist for glm-5.3)
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null
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oqrtqwl
LocalLLaMA
1u1dw38
oqriqjl
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AnticitizenPrime
1,781,063,223
Users on the Openrouter discord are saying that GLM 5v turbo and GLM 4.5 Air have disappeared from the API, which backs up the idea that a new one is dropping.
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null
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oqpr1d5
LocalLLaMA
1u1e0kd
1u1e0kd
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ttkciar
1,781,038,395
Violates Rule Three: Low-effort post. Sorry. Please have more to say when you post. You might want to look around at some of the other posts in the sub to get a better idea of what an informative post has in it.
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null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1e0kd/removed_by_moderator/oqpr1d5/
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oqrtye6
LocalLLaMA
1u1edjb
1u1edjb
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pmttyji
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u/Anbeeld One more to add for beellama
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oqsfifg
LocalLLaMA
1u1edjb
1u1edjb
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Long_comment_san
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2 bit cache? Am I reading this correctly? 4 bit is already bad enough, why would we need 2 bit?
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oqtxsnn
LocalLLaMA
1u1edjb
oqsfifg
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korino11
1,781,096,866
Because it spectral. not a just kv
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oqp5x17
LocalLLaMA
1u1euhv
1u1euhv
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AutoModerator
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oqpesr9
LocalLLaMA
1u1fws6
1u1fws6
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AXYZE8
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Do you see the name of this sub?
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null
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oqpjos7
LocalLLaMA
1u1ggn1
1u1ggn1
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FoxiPanda
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Benchmarks aren't everything and I'll gladly take "stepping stone" releases to get feedback and improve over the it's-not-clear-but-maybe-not-ever-again releases from Qwen.
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null
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oqpkaiw
LocalLLaMA
1u1ggn1
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BigPoppaK78
1,781,036,535
What was the rationale behind this post? Unless a new model tops out all benchmarks, then it's useless and should be shunned? Lots of these new models have different strengths and/or are proofs-of-concept. It takes time to make a new whiz-bang model and not every single release is going to be the greatest thing ever. ...
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null
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oqpkgqp
LocalLLaMA
1u1ggn1
1u1ggn1
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my_name_isnt_clever
1,781,036,583
What do you mean the rationale? It's the best coding model this lab has made, they're not going to give up and scrap the project because they didn't top every benchmark. Edit: Also some orgs ban anything of Chinese origin, this model is a lot more appealing if your other options are Gemma and Mistral.
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oqpl5gg
LocalLLaMA
1u1ggn1
1u1ggn1
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Few_Painter_5588
1,781,036,769
Dude these are LLM models, not soccer teams. No need to play favourites. And anyways, more models and labs is always better.
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oqplyez
LocalLLaMA
1u1ggn1
1u1ggn1
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Finanzamt_Endgegner
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Its 5b params less bro
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null
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oqpq3yx
LocalLLaMA
1u1ggn1
1u1ggn1
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oxygen_addiction
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Who hurt you?
3
null
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oqprrw6
LocalLLaMA
1u1ggn1
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KURD_1_STAN
1,781,038,604
As someone who doesn't care about benchmarks and want a coder model for my 3060, idc.
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null
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oqpusvn
LocalLLaMA
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ttkciar
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Violates Rule Three: Low-effort
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null
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oqpo14r
LocalLLaMA
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Shap6
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i would DDU and reinstall the drivers
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false
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oqpueqo
LocalLLaMA
1u1h25j
1u1h25j
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ShengrenR
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Is this a legit 4090 or a card of 'questionable provenance' - all sorts of shady folk I've seen selling things that aren't 'actually' the thing. You're going to need more information though as to what 'exactly' isn't working. The DLSS misbehaving is a symptom of something further down, but what exactly will determine ...
1
false
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1,789,194,860
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oqpyroi
LocalLLaMA
1u1h25j
1u1h25j
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StableLlama
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Of course it is possible that one transistor is faulty that is affecting one one work load but not the other. But how do you want to know? And is it guaranteed that only this one is bad and all others are good? (Especially for workloads that the current user doesn't use?) Anyway: probably is much higher that it is a t...
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1h25j/are_dlss_issues_on_nvidia_cards_a_problem_for_llm/oqpyroi/
1,789,194,860
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oqq3csp
LocalLLaMA
1u1h25j
1u1h25j
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Edenar
1,781,041,981
Your post sounds a bit like : "My fridge heats up when i open the door, does cutting the tree in my garden will help ?" Try with a clean OS an new driver install. Check if there is other people reporting the same issue on the same game (can be a problem from the game itself). Oh and update the driver directly from Nv...
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1h25j/are_dlss_issues_on_nvidia_cards_a_problem_for_llm/oqq3csp/
1,789,194,860
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqq4f1z
LocalLLaMA
1u1h25j
oqq3csp
1
cosmoschtroumpf
1,781,042,301
Yes, I realise my post isn't very pertinent the way it is phrased. It was mostly to hear back from people's experience with similar gpu problems. You last paragraph is exactly the kind of technical feedback I was hoping for. Thanks.
1
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1h25j/are_dlss_issues_on_nvidia_cards_a_problem_for_llm/oqq4f1z/
1,789,194,860
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oqqamsw
LocalLLaMA
1u1h25j
oqpo14r
1
Blizado
1,781,044,262
Yeah, first make sure you tried all to reduce the possible issues that could lead to that problem. It could also be a power issue, even a too small PSU. Hard to say without knowing how much knowledge the TE has and what he already tried.
1
false
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1,789,194,860
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oqqnr2v
LocalLLaMA
1u1lsqs
1u1lsqs
0
AutoModerator
1,781,048,604
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1,789,194,858
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oqqsiqt
LocalLLaMA
1u1mfbs
1u1mfbs
0
AutoModerator
1,781,050,227
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1,789,194,857
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oqqxfch
LocalLLaMA
1u1mft4
1u1mft4
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ttkciar
1,781,051,895
Violates Rule Two: Off-topic This ***could*** be on-topic for LocalLLaMA, if you provided any sort of relevant analysis or framed it as a reason people should be using local models, but as it is you just dumped an article about drama surrounding a closed model. Please feel free to re-post this with framing and/or ana...
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false
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1,789,194,857
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oqqw98x
LocalLLaMA
1u1mw7l
1u1mw7l
0
AutoModerator
1,781,051,498
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1,789,194,863
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oqqw9p0
LocalLLaMA
1u1mw7l
1u1mw7l
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uriwa
1,781,051,502
Check out prompt2bot at https://prompt2bot.com for an agent platform built from the ground up to solve these exact multi-user isolation and permission boundaries! Our blog post: https://prompt2bot.com/blog/common-weaknesses-and-scale-issues-with-popular-harnesses
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null
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1mw7l/comment/oqqw9p0/
1,789,194,863
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oqr086a
LocalLLaMA
1u1ndny
1u1ndny
0
AutoModerator
1,781,052,823
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false
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1,789,194,861
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oqr168n
LocalLLaMA
1u1nhop
1u1nhop
0
AutoModerator
1,781,053,140
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1,789,194,862
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oqr9ta5
LocalLLaMA
1u1ojb7
1u1ojb7
0
AutoModerator
1,781,056,036
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1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1ojb7/i_got_tired_of_juggling_nvtop_and_server_logs_to/oqr9ta5/
1,789,194,863
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oqrlle9
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
1u1pfen
0
nickm_27
1,781,060,092
Pretty specific example, but here is something, using this dataset / eval https://github.com/allenporter/home-assistant-datasets/tree/main/reports Gemma4 Q5_K_S scored in assist: ```yaml - model_id: gemma4-26b-a4b good_percent: 86.3% confidence_interval: 3.1% good: 397 total: 460 ``` and Gemma4 Unsloth QAT s...
26
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqrlle9/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqrlsvl
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
1u1pfen
0
Potential-Net-9375
1,781,060,166
I don't have anything quantitative to show, but I ran both through my test suite - Q4 QAT vs Q6\_K\_XL from unsloth, and they tested nearly identically!
8
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqrlsvl/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqro90l
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oqrlsvl
1
alex20_202020
1,781,061,074
> Q4 QAT vs Q6_K_XL from unsloth, and they tested nearly identically How was ordinary Q4_K_XL compared to them?
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqro90l/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqscar7
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
1u1pfen
0
WhoRoger
1,781,071,458
I'd like to know if the QAT is specific to Q4_0 or what difference will Q4_K (and derivatives) make one way or the other. Especially since Google's Q4_0 and Unsloth UD are much smaller than typical Q4 quants. Google mentions compressed tensors, is that it?
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqscar7/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqso6xx
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oqscar7
1
WhoRoger
1,781,077,382
Nvm Unsloth's blog cleared it up. This time their method probably really is the best.
3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqso6xx/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqtvfc8
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
1u1pfen
0
arbv
1,781,096,134
As far as I understand it, the QAT release pretty much obsoletes anything smaller than and including Q6.
6
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqtvfc8/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oquxcrw
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oqtvfc8
1
Silver-Champion-4846
1,781,106,701
Man I wish I could run gemma 26bA4b Qat. No good hardware sadly, not even more ram to run completely on cpu.
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false
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oquy7cs
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oquxcrw
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arbv
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The Gemma 4 12B is very good - if you can run it - it is a good option. Some people like Qwen 3.5 9B, but I cannot comment on this one. Also, if programming is not your thing - Gemma 4 E4B is solid. With this release there is a Gemma version for everyone.
2
false
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oquyx0s
LocalLLaMA
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oquxcrw
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arbv
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Oh, also take a look at these Gemma 4 26B quants: https://huggingface.co/deucebucket/Gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-Cerebellum-v6-GGUF/tree/main This guy makes interesting mixed precision quants.
3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oquyx0s/
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oqv0hfn
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oquy7cs
3
Silver-Champion-4846
1,781,107,512
Can't run 12b either not even qat, I have 8gb of ram (without the v)
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqv0hfn/
1,789,194,858
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oqv0nss
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oquyx0s
3
Silver-Champion-4846
1,781,107,558
Not enough ram and no v
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqv0nss/
1,789,194,858
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oqv0qd2
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oqv0hfn
4
arbv
1,781,107,577
Qwen 3.5 4B then, or Gemma 4 E2B/E4B
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqv0qd2/
1,789,194,858
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oqv1qbi
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oqv0qd2
5
Silver-Champion-4846
1,781,107,836
Yayyyy dumb dumbies that can't do tool calls and take half my ram by default, which windows also takes half of, unless I get 1bit quants which are dumber. All Hail Bitnet I guess, whenever something ternary groundbreaking shows up
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqv1qbi/
1,789,194,858
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oqv2azp
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oqv1qbi
6
arbv
1,781,107,985
Yeah. The state of affairs with local LLMs is that it is all about having good hardware to run them.
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqv2azp/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqv3vki
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
oqv2azp
7
Silver-Champion-4846
1,781,108,397
Very true, very sad
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqv3vki/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqymuo7
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
1u1pfen
0
Front-University4363
1,781,145,874
Just dug into exactly this for Gemma 4 12B. Two things worth knowing: (1) the QAT vs *naive* Q4\_0 gap is big — Unsloth's top-1 agreement is 88.76% (QAT UD-Q4\_K\_XL) vs 74.08% (naive Q4\_0) — but vs a good Q4\_K\_M it's much smaller, so it's not a night-and-day difference against a solid modern quant. (2) Counterintui...
4
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/oqymuo7/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
orzc5h4
LocalLLaMA
1u1pfen
1u1pfen
0
RemarkableAntelope80
1,781,616,355
Not an answer, but not sure if you’re using ggufs. If so, google’s own qat ones are borked, use unsloth, or some others also figured that out.
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1pfen/gemma4_qats_vs_higherbit_regular_quantizations/orzc5h4/
1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqrmncv
LocalLLaMA
1u1psjx
1u1psjx
0
ttkciar
1,781,060,475
Violates Rule Four: Self-promotion Reviewing the account history of u/Comfortable_Dirt5590 reveals that most of their interaction with the LocalLLaMA community has been self-promotion, far more than the 10% threshold given in [the subreddit rules.](https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/about/rules/) Please try to be a ...
1
null
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1,789,194,905
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LocalLLaMA
1u1qfb0
1u1qfb0
0
AutoModerator
1,781,061,265
Hello! Your post was removed as you do not have sufficient karma on r/LocalLLaMa. We are doing this in response to the large volume of spam we are unfortunately experiencing. Please participate in the sub (through comments), gain the minimum of 5 karma and then re-post *I am a bot, and this action was performed automa...
1
false
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1,789,194,858
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqrs3pw
LocalLLaMA
1u1qi7i
1u1qi7i
0
positivitittie
1,781,062,569
And why is this on this sub?
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1qi7i/deleted_by_user/oqrs3pw/
1,789,194,859
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqrs4bw
LocalLLaMA
1u1qi7i
1u1qi7i
0
jesuschrist-69420
1,781,062,576
Wtf
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1qi7i/deleted_by_user/oqrs4bw/
1,789,194,859
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqs0nbg
LocalLLaMA
1u1s1h3
1u1s1h3
0
AutoModerator
1,781,066,103
Hello! Your post was removed as you do not have sufficient karma on r/LocalLLaMa. We are doing this in response to the large volume of spam we are unfortunately experiencing. Please participate in the sub (through comments), gain the minimum of 5 karma and then re-post *I am a bot, and this action was performed automa...
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1s1h3/i_gave_my_local_agent_a_real_iphone_opensource/oqs0nbg/
1,789,194,875
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oqsgoj4
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
MaxKruse96
1,781,073,593
we havent gotten a new model in 5 days and already freak out? bro
72
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsgoj4/
1,789,194,876
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oqsgxvt
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsgoj4
1
twack3r
1,781,073,721
No, absolutely not freaking out and I’m eg very thankful for mimo v2.5 as well as pro together with both v4 variants. But there is definitely an observation where the high-end of open weight releases appears to become more gated or straight up inaccessible compared to a few months ago.
2
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsgxvt/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqshp3l
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
Charming_Support726
1,781,074,094
No need to hesitate. Everyone was waiting for the Anthropic move and OpenAIs reaction. IMHO the bigger issue is, that the "Running Locally" community is more concerned in playing hardware and quants than into researching innovtations. "Please tell me how to run an Opus quality model on my 2060. Uncensored" There is ...
9
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqshp3l/
1,789,194,876
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oqshqrv
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsgxvt
2
BinaryLoopInPlace
1,781,074,117
in diffusion land (well it's no longer diffusion but flow or whatever) we just got an open source image model that's SoTA level. Like, a week ago.
11
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqshqrv/
1,789,194,876
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oqshrtl
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
indicava
1,781,074,131
No reason to think MiniMax won’t deliver on their promise. Although even M2.7 isn’t really a “run at home” model, and word is M3 is bigger.
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqshrtl/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsi2oo
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqshqrv
3
twack3r
1,781,074,277
Awesome! Which model is that?
1
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsi2oo/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsi4xq
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
TheRealMasonMac
1,781,074,307
\- GLM 5.2 is coming soon. It’s accessible via the API. It’s unknown if it’ll be open-weighted. \- K3 is set to be bigger than K2, possibly DSV4-Pro-size or several trillion parameters. \- On the MiniMax server, they recently announced they were still working on the open-weight release. It seems like they had massive...
7
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsi4xq/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsi5sc
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsi2oo
4
audioen
1,781,074,318
Probably Ideogram 4.0. The r/stablediffusion has it all over.
11
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsi5sc/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsiban
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqshrtl
1
twack3r
1,781,074,393
I think that’s part of the problem with local AI: it’s turned too much into edge device AI. ‚Run at home‘ becomes a synonym to running AI on a gaming GPU and that’s a lot less interesting than running proper Large LLMs locally as a frontier alternative.
2
true
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsiban/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsih49
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsgxvt
2
Ok_Zookeepergame8714
1,781,074,471
It's gonna take time for the Fable-like model intelligence to get down to open source models, especially because of the scarcity of compute, but we'll get there - I've tested Fable extensively and it's not hype. It's comparable to the gpt-3.5 --> gpt-4 intelligence improvement. So no AI bubble burst and all this bullsh...
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsih49/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsiorq
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
pulse77
1,781,074,574
Most of the currently best open-weight models came out in April 2026 (GLM 5.1, Kimi K2.6, Mimo v2.5 Pro, DeepSeek V4 Pro, MiniMax M2.7, Qwen 3.6, Gemma 4)... April 2026 is 2 months ago... It's time to enjoy the spring now... Winter comes every 12 months...
38
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsiorq/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsj6fd
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqshp3l
1
mrgreatheart
1,781,074,817
This resonates. I play with my local setup but do my work on frontier plans. I need to start experimenting in earnest with what I can run locally.
4
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsj6fd/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsjobo
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
ea_man
1,781,075,064
\> US denizens will be in a position pretty soon where open weight models are most likely considered unamerican, unpatriotic, communist etc. Didn't NVIDIA just release open source models? Plus a new laptop to run inference? Google too? Microsoft too?
9
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsjobo/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsjv79
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
JackStrawWitchita
1,781,075,159
Perhaps the 'big models that do everything' days are waning in favour of using lots of small models in agentic workflow chains that actually solve real-world problems... Everyone I speak to in this space is focusing on smaller models that do one thing extremely well, chained with other smaller models that do another t...
11
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsjv79/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsjvyi
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
DeltaSqueezer
1,781,075,169
I'm only on Qwen-3.5-9B. I can still upgrade to 27B and then after that GLM-5.1. For me, the limiting factor is not the model, but the hardware to run it. If I had a cheap way to run GLM-5.1 at home, I'd be happy with that for quite a while.
3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsjvyi/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqskkw7
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
kartblanch
1,781,075,519
Qwen 3.6 35b a3b + opus 4.7 distilled uncensored feels the most useful on a 5090 but it still gets stuck in comparison to the bigger models. We will likely see fewer and fewer opensource models in the us as ipo drives these companies to profit. We must create share holder value at all costs.
4
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqskkw7/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsldcz
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
FullstackSensei
1,781,075,923
How many 1T+ open weight models do you need? How many are you running locally? Most people struggle to get a single GPU and 32GB RAM. Even something like GLM isn't something the overwhelming majority can run, even at nerfed quants like Q2. In reality, 30B class models are already pretty good if you know what you're d...
5
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsldcz/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsq63d
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsi5sc
5
[deleted]
1,781,078,412
[deleted]
-2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsq63d/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsr688
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsjobo
1
Fheredin
1,781,078,941
Yeah, that's an...odd conclusion.
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsr688/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqstce1
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsjobo
1
SV_SV_SV
1,781,080,077
To be fair the Microsoft/Nvidia bastard child most likely won't be running open weight models at OS level, it will be some encrypted blob automatically configured/updated and the shadow OS will process the tokens so "you won't even have to worry about it"
-3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqstce1/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsv240
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsiorq
1
DistanceSolar1449
1,781,080,985
\- Minimax M3 is closed source, api only \- Qwen 3.7 is api only \- GLM 5.2 is api only Things have changed. Companies don’t release open source models anymore since the Qwen guy got fired.
-3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsv240/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsv3gi
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqskkw7
1
[deleted]
1,781,081,004
[removed]
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsv3gi/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsvap8
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqstce1
2
[deleted]
1,781,081,109
[removed]
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsvap8/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsvu5t
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsldcz
1
imike3049
1,781,081,392
Well anybody can get Nvidia B300 with 288Gb of RAM somewhere on [vast.ai](http://vast.ai) for $4-5/hr, or several of them to play with 1T+ models
0
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsvu5t/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsvu9n
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsgoj4
1
dark-light92
1,781,081,393
Yes. Of course. IT'S BEEN 5 DAYS.
3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsvu9n/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsvup2
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsr688
2
DerDave
1,781,081,399
Pretty sure this is exactly what's going to happen. Let's see where we stand in 5 years. 
0
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsvup2/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqsy5wv
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
Kahvana
1,781,082,619
I don’t have such a negative outlook on the future. Research takes time, it’s remarkable how fast the LLM space has moved and far from the norm. It will slow down again, the rate is simply not sustainable. Failures are part of research. Undercooked deepseek for example isn’t bad, considering it’s the first 1.6T open-...
5
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqsy5wv/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqt2tba
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
1u1u9eb
0
DeepWisdomGuy
1,781,085,018
Qwen is saving its release of their dense 3.7 72B until the day before one of the IPOs, lol. (wishful thinking)
3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqt2tba/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqt6v6w
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsv240
2
Tall-Ad-7742
1,781,086,944
well i would pray and wait a bit because minimax team said they would release it in about 10 days (the weights) maybe we are lucky idk and where did you get the information about glm 5.2? like i haven't even heard anything about it
6
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqt6v6w/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqt6ypa
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsq63d
6
StableLlama
1,781,086,989
It is open weight and not open source (as nearly all models) as the sources for the training used isn't available. Apart from that, being censored or not doesn't change whether it is open weights or source or not. (As it is open weights you can train the censoring away, what you can't do with closed weights). And apa...
3
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqt6ypa/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqt7olr
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqt6v6w
3
DistanceSolar1449
1,781,087,317
GLM 5.2 is already on the chinese z.ai website
2
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqt7olr/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqt7y0l
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsvap8
3
SV_SV_SV
1,781,087,435
Thanks for the eloquent counterargument.
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqt7y0l/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqt8lze
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqsgoj4
1
MathmoKiwi
1,781,087,733
Winter/spring cycles are measure in hours now /s
1
false
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqt8lze/
1,789,194,876
batch-priority-2026-summer
oqt94uh
LocalLLaMA
1u1u9eb
oqt7olr
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is it a special version or is it just a limited access because i can't find it for me the api and chat only say glm-5.1 (and older ones)
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1u1u9eb/bit_of_a_lull_or_winter_is_coming/oqt94uh/
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