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[864.22 --> 865.62] Just within arm's reach of me. |
[865.62 --> 865.74] Yeah. |
[866.80 --> 868.10] And I'm using one of them. |
[869.04 --> 870.28] I like this case. |
[870.38 --> 871.58] These got some good cases here. |
[871.70 --> 873.50] Of course, you've got the Flirk one, which I love, too. |
[873.50 --> 874.56] We've got the Flirk case. |
[874.70 --> 877.34] We've got the Geekworm aluminium case. |
[878.02 --> 882.64] The Geekworm one is particularly good for the 3D printer, because you take one half |
[882.64 --> 886.24] off and 3D print a specific bracket, and then screw the two together. |
[886.72 --> 889.64] And you've got some heat dissipation for the Pi 4 and one half. |
[890.12 --> 893.90] And then the custom bracket attaches to the 3D printer, and it's good to go. |
[895.66 --> 897.56] You can't give me a hard time anymore. |
[897.66 --> 898.42] You've been outed now. |
[898.48 --> 898.90] I know. |
[899.10 --> 899.28] I know. |
[899.28 --> 904.30] The thing is, though, I buy stuff like home automation gear, and then I think, oh, I'll |
[904.30 --> 905.86] install that later. |
[906.54 --> 910.78] And then don't open the second drawer on the right, though, and look at all the Shelly |
[910.78 --> 911.30] gear I've got. |
[911.36 --> 911.94] Oh, no. |
[912.98 --> 913.90] Shamefully, I've bought. |
[913.98 --> 915.02] I just haven't got around to install it. |
[915.02 --> 915.32] I know. |
[915.44 --> 917.66] I have a basket full of that stuff right now. |
[917.66 --> 919.38] But I'll get to it one of these days. |
[919.90 --> 920.32] You know what? |
[920.34 --> 921.08] And I'm not even kidding. |
[921.26 --> 924.56] In that basket are some Wyze cameras, too, that I've got to deploy. |
[925.06 --> 927.54] And that got sent into the show a couple of times this week. |
[927.78 --> 931.66] Wyze took it over the back end about security. |
[932.24 --> 935.58] And people wrote in wanting to know what we thought about it, including Eric Johnston. |
[935.66 --> 939.38] He wrote in and said, hey, guys, you know, you've talked about the Waze cameras quite |
[939.38 --> 939.74] a bit. |
[940.16 --> 940.88] They're actually Wyze. |
[940.96 --> 942.56] But you're talking about the Wyze cameras quite a bit. |
[942.56 --> 944.42] And I thought you'd be interested to know this. |
[944.56 --> 945.70] Gizmodo wrote an article. |
[946.28 --> 951.24] And the headline is, you should probably stop using your Wyze camera right now. |
[952.04 --> 955.68] Verge, the Verge wrote a headline that said, I'm done with Wyze. |
[956.26 --> 959.98] And I think the gist of what happened, I was traveling, but I think the gist of what happened |
[959.98 --> 964.80] is it turns out, turns out there's a pretty nasty vulnerability in the V1 camera. |
[964.98 --> 965.92] They no longer sell. |
[966.46 --> 967.62] They had to be on your LAN first. |
[967.62 --> 971.24] But if they got on your LAN and got some information off of your Wyze camera, which supposedly |
[971.24 --> 975.80] they could do if they just had LAN access, then later on they could access your camera |
[975.80 --> 978.12] and include information about your camera, even remotely. |
[979.10 --> 983.88] So like Wes comes to my house, gets onto my Wyze cameras, then he's peeping on me from |
[983.88 --> 984.98] remote from then on out. |
[985.26 --> 987.96] I did make you guys a dedicated guest network. |
[988.48 --> 989.28] That explains it. |
[989.50 --> 990.30] Just to be safe. |
[991.48 --> 993.52] So I mean, some of this is hyperbole, right? |
[993.56 --> 995.66] Some of this is just journalism, clickbait stuff. |
[995.66 --> 998.84] You know, you should stop using your Wyze cameras immediately. |
[999.12 --> 999.86] Okay, fine. |
[999.96 --> 1000.18] Yes. |
[1000.72 --> 1003.14] I understand why they write that headline. |
[1003.50 --> 1010.04] But since the original publication of the article, Wyze themselves have released a response, |
[1010.30 --> 1015.18] you know, stating like Chris said, we'd like to let our users know that these vulnerabilities |
[1015.18 --> 1017.66] required some form of local network access. |
[1017.90 --> 1021.16] And that does really rule out most attack vectors. |
[1021.16 --> 1025.74] I mean, unless you have a really crappy Wi-Fi password or you just leave an Ethernet cable |
[1025.74 --> 1027.80] hanging out your mailbox by the street. |
[1027.96 --> 1031.56] I mean, most people aren't going to get to your local network. |
[1032.58 --> 1034.52] And so for me, yeah, fine. |
[1034.84 --> 1037.58] The V1s were vulnerable for a while. |
[1037.66 --> 1043.66] But what really actually bothers me is how Wyze as a company handled this vulnerability. |
[1044.04 --> 1045.36] Yeah, that's the problem, right? |
[1045.78 --> 1048.46] Is they just essentially sweeped under the rug and discontinued the model. |
[1048.46 --> 1051.40] And I guess maybe the logic was, is we're not making any more of them. |
[1052.16 --> 1052.98] Yeah, I suppose so. |
[1053.04 --> 1056.74] We're not obligated to do anything better than just say, well, we're not telling you to keep |
[1056.74 --> 1057.10] using them. |
[1057.24 --> 1057.42] Yeah. |
[1057.50 --> 1060.32] And if you updated the version two or version three, you didn't have this problem. |
[1060.32 --> 1063.72] So they figured, well, I really got away from that problem. |
[1063.72 --> 1066.46] But in reality is people have these deployed, right? |
[1066.58 --> 1068.14] Doctors, offices, maybe even who knows. |
[1068.26 --> 1069.68] It is a little worse than that. |
[1069.76 --> 1072.48] So the V1, 2 and 3 were all vulnerable. |
[1072.66 --> 1072.78] Yeah. |
[1073.34 --> 1077.36] But they silently released an update a few months ago for the V2 and 3 only. |
[1077.36 --> 1077.80] Oh. |
[1078.08 --> 1080.26] So they've left the V1s hung out to dry. |
[1080.56 --> 1080.80] Yeah. |
[1081.14 --> 1081.36] Yeah. |
[1081.78 --> 1083.34] Just leaves a bad taste in the mouth. |
[1083.62 --> 1083.78] Yeah. |
[1083.78 --> 1085.28] And then you combine that with bad communication. |
[1085.82 --> 1091.44] This could be really bad for Wyze because Wyze has aspirations to become the IoT of everything |
[1091.44 --> 1096.50] vendor from internet scales to door locks to everything. |
[1096.70 --> 1100.08] In fact, if you open up the Wyze app now, they have a shop section in there. |
[1100.40 --> 1101.14] They're selling lights. |
[1101.24 --> 1106.46] They're selling every single kind of IoT, Wi-Fi connected device you can think of. |
[1106.46 --> 1107.30] They're selling it now. |
[1107.92 --> 1112.22] And you have to have a brand that's trusted in order to do that. |
[1112.46 --> 1114.36] And if you don't have a trusted brand, you're dead in the water. |
[1115.42 --> 1116.48] I agree completely. |
[1116.84 --> 1121.92] I'm a bit surprised by Bitdefender, who are the security research company who uncovered |
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