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Nov 6

Rethinking JEPA: Compute-Efficient Video SSL with Frozen Teachers

Video Joint Embedding Predictive Architectures (V-JEPA) learn generalizable off-the-shelf video representation by predicting masked regions in latent space with an exponential moving average (EMA)-updated teacher. While EMA prevents representation collapse, it complicates scalable model selection and couples teacher and student architectures. We revisit masked-latent prediction and show that a frozen teacher suffices. Concretely, we (i) train a target encoder with a simple pixel-reconstruction objective under V-JEPA masking, then (ii) freeze it and train a student to predict the teacher's latents on masked regions. This leads to a two-stage, unregularized scheme that we refer to as SALT (Static-teacher Asymmetric Latent Training). SALT decouples optimization into pixel reconstruction (teacher) and masked latent prediction (student), increasing transparency, efficiency, and scalability while preserving the ability of representation to generalize under frozen evaluation. Empirically, our student models outperform recently proposed V-JEPA 2 encoders under frozen backbone evaluation across diverse benchmarks. They are also more compute-optimal: at matched pretraining FLOPs, our method achieves higher probing accuracy, and its scaling curves dominate V-JEPA's accuracy-FLOPs Pareto frontier. Finally, we find that student quality is remarkably robust to teacher quality: high-performing students emerge even with small, sub-optimal teachers. This points to a compute budget allocation that should overwhelmingly favor the student. These results position SALT as a simple, scalable, and compute-efficient alternative to EMA-based self-distillation for video representation learning.

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Sep 29, 2025 2

Smaller Models, Better Rejects: Preference Distillation Scaling

Preference distillation typically treats a teacher response as preferred and the student's own response as rejected. This assumes that self-generated failures are the most informative negatives and that rejects must come from a model at least as large as the student, making generation costly at scale. We find neither assumption holds: across students from 7B to 72B, smaller frozen models generate rejects with less inference compute yet train stronger students than self-generated rejects, before and after sequence-level knowledge distillation, on code generation and mathematical reasoning. To explain this result, we derive a finite-horizon utility bound for Direct Preference Optimization in a linearized feature model. The bound characterizes favorable reject distributions and motivates three interventions. First, mixing rejects from smaller and student-scale models improves performance as the smaller model's share increases. Second, reassigning rejects to other prompts and shuffling their code tokens still outperform length-matched gibberish, showing that task structure contributes to reject utility. Third, selecting candidates with lower likelihood under the reference policy improves net transfer when higher-likelihood candidates provide less useful contrast. Lower-likelihood selections outperform higher-likelihood ones for every source. These results suggest that effective rejects preserve task structure while limiting coupling to the reference policy, and that smaller frozen models can provide them at low cost.

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Sep 29 2

Learning to Be a Transformer to Pinpoint Anomalies

To efficiently deploy strong, often pre-trained feature extractors, recent Industrial Anomaly Detection and Segmentation (IADS) methods process low-resolution images, e.g., 224x224 pixels, obtained by downsampling the original input images. However, while numerous industrial applications demand the identification of both large and small defects, downsampling the input image to a low resolution may hinder a method's ability to pinpoint tiny anomalies. We propose a novel Teacher--Student paradigm to leverage strong pre-trained features while processing high-resolution input images very efficiently. The core idea concerns training two shallow MLPs (the Students) by nominal images so as to mimic the mappings between the patch embeddings induced by the self-attention layers of a frozen vision Transformer (the Teacher). Indeed, learning these mappings sets forth a challenging pretext task that small-capacity models are unlikely to accomplish on out-of-distribution data such as anomalous images. Our method can spot anomalies from high-resolution images and runs way faster than competitors, achieving state-of-the-art performance on MVTec AD and the best segmentation results on VisA. We also propose novel evaluation metrics to capture robustness to defect size, i.e., the ability to preserve good localisation from large anomalies to tiny ones. Evaluating our method also by these metrics reveals its neatly superior performance.

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Jul 4, 2024

Where-OPD: Spatially Guided On-Policy Self-Distillation of MLLMs with Synthetic Scenes

On-policy self-distillation has recently emerged as an effective approach for improving language-model reasoning by supervising students with a frozen or EMA version of themselves that receives privileged information. Its application to multimodal large language models (MLLMs), however, remains largely unexplored. Recent approaches use privileged visual information, such as image crops corresponding to a question, to improve fine-grained perception, but their gains are confined to tasks that benefit from such visual zooming and require either human-annotated grounding data or external teacher models. We introduce a different form of on-policy self-distillation for MLLMs that provides the teacher with textual, spatially grounded guidance identifying the visual elements relevant to a query. We use procedurally generated scenes with automatically available object identities and spatial coordinates, enabling scalable and annotation-free post-training. The teacher uses this spatial guidance to locate and integrate evidence from multiple relevant image regions, while the student learns to reproduce the resulting behavior from the image and question alone. Our approach consistently improves performance on counting, document and chart understanding benchmarks across multiple models. Importantly, although post-training uses only synthetic scenes, the resulting improvements transfer to real-world perception benchmarks, yielding a 3.23-point gain in average performance across CVBench, V*, ZoomBench, BLINK, HR-Bench, and MME-RealWorld. These results show that spatially grounded privileged information can induce broader perceptual capabilities through on-policy self-distillation, enabling substantial synthetic-to-real transfer beyond the task and data distribution used for post-training. Project page: https://github.com/sirkosophia/Where-OPD

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Sep 30 2

Beyond the Answer: Student-Conditioned Trace Construction for Reasoning Distillation

A reasoning trace can accompany a correct answer without providing effective supervision for a particular student. We study how to construct traces that improve learning beyond answer-only supervision by considering both their intermediate content and their accessibility to the target learner. We introduce ReDiST, a student-conditioned trace-construction and distillation framework for evidence-rich reasoning. Starting from the student's own attempts, ReDiST revises answer-correct drafts against the supplied evidence and repairs unsuccessful drafts with additional guidance from the verified answer. A frozen student-matched reader screens and ranks original and edited candidates using answer recovery and verified-answer probability, given the question, evidence, and candidate trace. We distill the selected targets while balancing trace and final-answer supervision with an auxiliary answer loss. Construction and selection occur offline, and inference uses only the distilled student. Experiments on question-answering benchmarks show that ReDiST can improve both source-task and cross-benchmark performance over answer-only, original-trace, and the evaluated trace-selection and rewriting baselines. Across supervision recipes, performance rankings can differ between source and transfer benchmarks, highlighting the importance of evaluating trace teaching utility across distributions.

  • 9 authors
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Oct 15

PAST: Privileged Adaptation from Complete Student Trajectories for On-Policy Self-Distillation

On-policy self-distillation (OPSD) uses a privileged teacher to supervise a reasoning model on prefixes sampled from its own rollouts. Yet each rollout also reveals how the student's response unfolds and whether it succeeds, student-specific hindsight that standard OPSD does not use to form the teacher. We introduce Privileged Adaptation from Student Trajectories (PAST), which treats each completed student trajectory as additional privileged information for the OPSD teacher while leaving the student's distillation prefixes unchanged. PAST preserves the student's next-token distribution on correct trajectories and uses failed trajectories to adapt the teacher toward verified success under student-proximity regularization. We characterize what such a trajectory-conditioned teacher can transfer to a prefix-only student. Forward-KL distillation projects the teacher distributions to their conditional arithmetic mean given the prefix. This projection separates trajectory-specific variation that remains privileged from the mean policy shift available to the student. For correct trajectories, the unclipped population objective also has the frozen student as an ideal distributional fixed point. Across three mathematical reasoning benchmarks, PAST improves the Avg@12 macro average over Vanilla OPSD by 5.6 percentage points. A 2times2 factorial study shows gains from both complete-trajectory access and teacher adaptation, while trajectory removal and shuffling confirm that the adapted teacher uses the matching hindsight context.

  • 3 authors
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Aug 8

Ask to Distill: Learning to Synthesize Data for On-Policy Distillation

On-policy distillation (OPD) can succeed with surprisingly few training questions, motivating a view of questions as carriers of distributional knowledge transfer. How can we assess whether a newly generated question is valuable for distillation, and learn to generate better questions---without access to its correct answer? We introduce Ask-to-Distill (\method), a framework that treats synthetic questions as distribution elicitors and optimizes the teacher supervision they expose along student-generated trajectories. A student-initialized synthesizer is optimized using a distributional surrogate for question value, computed from a frozen student--teacher pair without reference answers, correctness rewards, or per-candidate student updates. The reward combines teacher--student disagreement with teacher probability mass on the student's candidate support, together with length and diversity controls. The generated questions are filtered and deduplicated into a prompt-only bank for standard OPD. Across mathematical reasoning, code generation, and agentic tasks, our method improves average performance and teacher-gap recovery over unoptimized student-generated prompts and KL-filtered real questions, while matching or exceeding real-bank OPD in the evaluated settings. Signal analyses further show that optimized questions can elicit denser supervision and more total signal from shorter student responses, supporting elicited distributional supervision as an objective for synthetic distillation data. Our code, data and models are publicly available at https://github.com/GasolSun36/Ask_to_Distill.

Whole-Body Aerial Grasping and Lifting via Partial Visual Observations

Aerial grasp-and-lift tasks require whole-body coordination across approach, acquisition, and lifting under partial target observations. Early approach failures can limit exposure to later task stages during training, while changing visibility complicates alignment and closure timing during execution. We present a recurrent teacher-student framework that learns a single policy in simulation to jointly command flight, arm motion, and gripper closure without an explicit task-phase input. A privileged teacher learns through reinforcement learning with a critical-state curriculum that exposes acquisition and lifting states before connecting them to normal approach trajectories. Its behavior is distilled into a recurrent visual student that replaces privileged target states with dual-view point clouds and proprioception, integrating observation history for closed-loop control. A dedicated closure objective supervises closure timing from sustained model-defined readiness sequences. Training and primary evaluation use a simulated acquisition-and-payload model with condition-triggered latching, virtual attachment, and wrench-based payload loading for short-distance lifting. Across 8,996 completed simulation episodes under this model, the frozen student achieves full-task success rates of 99.97%, 97.14%, and 95.84% under nominal, physics/control-randomized, and additional camera-randomized conditions, respectively. The nominal latch-count-weighted mean of per-seed 90th-percentile alignment errors at acquisition is 8.12 mm.

  • 9 authors
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Sep 29

CompassOPD: Cross-Family On-Policy Distillation via Within-Family Likelihood Shifts

On-policy distillation (OPD) provides dense token-level supervision on student-generated trajectories. Although OPD performs strongly when teacher and student belong to the same model family, we find that its effectiveness degrades in cross-family settings even after tokenizer alignment, with substantially stronger external teachers offering little additional improvement. To understand this disconnect, we decompose the cross-family OPD signal into two components: an offset between a low-capability teacher-family reference and the student, and the within-family log-likelihood shift from that reference to the strong teacher. Standard OPD transfers both components together, allowing the offset to dominate the update direction and obscure the changes associated with teacher capability improvements. We propose CompassOPD, which removes this offset and transfers the within-family shift, while a frozen student reference anchors updates to the student's initial policy. Thus, both teacher-side and student-side changes are measured within their respective model families. Experiments across three student families and multiple teacher families show that CompassOPD consistently outperforms standard cross-family OPD, improving average reasoning accuracy by up to 5.50 points. For an MoE teacher, we further construct the reference directly from the teacher checkpoint by reducing expert activation, eliminating the need for a separate reference checkpoint while retaining a 3.43-point gain over OPD.

  • 8 authors
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Sep 8