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[14:44] <danilos> jtv: I don't see it on devel
[14:45] <jtv> danilos: it's on db-devel, because it depends on a trigger change.
[14:45] <danilos> jtv: is it only on db-devel?
[14:45] <jtv> danilos: hang on, working with herb
[14:45] <danilos> jtv: ah, ok, so that's not something we can CP
[14:45] <danilos> jtv: sure, go on, that's fine, thanks
[14:46] <henninge> danilos, jtv: Does this mean that staging's data is as of Friday, 16:25 (whatever TZ)?
[14:46] <henninge> https://staging.launchpad.net/successful-updates.txt
[14:46] <danilos> henninge: most likely, yes
[14:47] <jtv> henninge: yes, it's Friday's data with later code.
[14:47] <henninge> thanks
[14:47] <danilos> henninge: there are enough import failures from before that date as well, so it shouldn't be hard to reproduce :)
[14:48] <henninge> Actually, there aren't that many in the logs on devpad, just 5.
[14:49] <danilos> henninge: right, it seems logrotate has messed it up, let me look up older ones and how they behave
[14:50] <henninge> danilos: don't bother right now
[14:50] <henninge> danilos: I will try the oldest I find there, first.
[20:57] <sinzui> flacoste: I am confused about where I need to /also/ merge the DateMarshaller fix. I think you said lp:lazr.restful and to update the changelog, but this tree does not have a changelog.
[21:58] <flacoste> sinzui: it should
[21:59] <flacoste> sinzui: in src/lazr/restful/CHANGES.txt i think
[22:00] <sinzui> flacoste: lp:lazr.restful AKA lp:~lazr-developers/lazr.restful/trunk does not. I can create one
[22:01] <flacoste> sinzui: hang on, i'm sure there is on
[22:01] <flacoste> sinzui: src/lazr/restful/NEWS.txt
[22:01] <sinzui> I see that
[22:01] <sinzui> thanks
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[02:58] <wgrant> sinzui: I don't think bug #397398 is a duplicate of the usual one - in that bug the user wanted it to be in Russia, but the timezone is wrong.
[02:58] <ubot3> Malone bug 397398 in launchpad-registry "Wrong user timezone (Saratov) (dup-of: 387738)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397398
[02:58] <ubot3> Malone bug 387738 in launchpad-registry "Launchpad refuses to believe that I don't live in Russia, near the Kazakhstan border." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387738
[02:59] <sinzui> wgrant: I think it is because smara is were others were ending up
[02:59] <wgrant> sinzui: Ah.
[03:00] <sinzui> However we did just change the pytz lib, I should double check the date. There were two days of wierdness during the transition
[03:08] <sinzui> I wonder if people will complain is I create the tag "ml-archive-sucks"
[03:10] <lifeless> sinzui: mars says to talk to you about +series
[03:10] <sinzui> yes
[03:10] <lifeless> this is me, talking to you:)
[03:10] <lifeless> I've filed a bug
[03:10] <lifeless> I don't mean to be overly negative, but its nearly unusable at the moment.
[03:11] <sinzui> Wow for me it went from a wasted click to at least a report that something is happening
[03:11] <lifeless> wasted click?
[03:12] <lifeless> we may have very different understandings of what I'm intending to ask about
[03:12] <sinzui> Any time I was taken to a series page, I had to find a link to a page that would let me perform an action or learn about what was happening. The series page was not a good tool.
[03:12] <sinzui> How can I make the series page a good tool?
[03:12] <wgrant> sinzui: I would love a ml-archive-sucks tag, if it means the archives might eventually be less utterly sucky.
[03:13] <lifeless> so there are two things, both similar. Perhaps I should file two bugs
[03:13] <lifeless> firstly, can I ask you to have a look at
[03:13] <lifeless> https://edge.launchpad.net/bzr/
[03:13] <lifeless> there is a funny stick figure about half way down labelled 'bzr.dev'
[03:14] <sinzui> oh yes the timeline that never shows more than one line of development
[03:15] <sinzui> It gets bigger in the new page design
[03:15] <wgrant> lifeless: Bug #398705?
[03:15] <ubot3> Malone bug 398705 in launchpad-registry "Unobvious that timeline graph is scrollable" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398705
[03:16] <lifeless> I know that its scrollable. its just _painful_ to scroll on a thumbpad
[03:16] <sinzui> I asked edwin to try putting borders on it that beuno would like
[03:16] <lifeless> on a 125x125 dpi screen
[03:16] <lifeless> click, drag about an inch
[03:16] <lifeless> release go back, repeat
[03:16] <lifeless> personally, I'd much rather not have to scroll at all
[03:16] <sinzui> That sucks
[03:17] <lifeless> that list of series seems truncated anyway, so why not truncate a little more and at the same time make the canvas taller
[03:17] <lifeless> vertical space is cheap
[03:19] <sinzui> Well it will be taller. I think we need to convey that the widget is a viewport
[03:20] <lifeless> should I file a bug about this aspect? I haven't so far
[03:21] <sinzui> definitely!
[03:21] <sinzui> Edwin is work on a bug to improve the UI. As asked edwin to take wgrant's bug into consideration.
[03:22] <lifeless> bug filed
[03:22] <lifeless> secondly
[03:22] <sinzui> thanks
[03:22] <lifeless> have a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+series
[03:23] <lifeless> remember - trackpad user
[03:23] <lifeless> I do have cheap vertical scrolling (of the whole page)
[03:23] <sinzui> ha ha
[03:23] <lifeless> my window is about 900 pixels wide
[03:23] <sinzui> I will show that to Edwin and Martin
[03:24] <sinzui> mine is 800
[03:24] <wgrant> Does that one show inactive milestones too?
[03:24] <wgrant> The one on +index doesn't.
[03:25] <sinzui> This one show obsolete series at 50% opacity
[03:26] <sinzui> I think I need to restart the discussion about sane zoom on load. I seeing this makes me think I was right
[03:26] <lifeless> I'd like to note that *I don't care about the graph*
[03:27] <lifeless> it can jump off a cliff and I'll never regret its passing
[03:27] * _thumper_ wonders if the william grant showing up on my Facebook suggestions is wgrant
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[03:27] <sinzui> lifeless: I can create a [X] Display timelines check box. That is how I got the maps off my pages
[03:27] <wgrant> thumper: Could be. I have a few Launchpadders.
[03:27] <lifeless> sinzui: I love timelines. That isn't a timeline :)
[03:28] <lifeless> sinzui: or should I say, I love vertically presented regular text and markup timelines
[03:28] <sinzui> understood
[03:28] <thumper> wgrant: University of Melbourne '10
[03:28] <thumper> ?
[03:28] <wgrant> thumper: That would be me indeed.
[03:28] <lifeless> ok, so two bugs filed. Let me know if you need more details on either.
[03:28] <thumper> :)
[03:29] <wgrant> The current one also isn't a timeline, since it doesn't show things relative to time.
[03:29] <wgrant> Milestones, releases and series are equally spaced.
[03:29] <wgrant> With no regard to time.
[03:29] <wgrant> So bzr.dev seems to have all the latest milestones.